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From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 4 00:19:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8535F3A6B0F for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:19:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.547 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.547 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TubbD76Xjy5G for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAF13A67A7 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MC78F-000DHi-5r for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:12:59 +0000 Received: from [209.85.198.229] (helo=rv-out-0506.google.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MC783-000DG7-IW for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:12:53 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so304348rvb.47 for ; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:12:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YpKh2okZvWyN9PWsh3tIWtQduNQVfGu4T8cW48JlMfU=; b=b2XdWwY8EWK3SKYSvPwC7f4kiFijjdZpl10thU9Jw7q1eSUpJPAlSpuq3iD6z/S8GE 0iD+7uffa46gOnAv0s/cGsYo/FAyS9SUSHr1t8jaNkZqUAdKOrxwWdFhLizsOPkCDmwV Of4+K3avKrGZTBBeiKmDF+tqWKOXw4xCeqRkU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GdKsXcDbMV6xNtR3zAmDe4ZNdLJN12j718XVjjGBzbAzC+S840QyGQbIHfLQHwdw+r 4Pt4UPrZQhmQkdxt1aoYSSnTwWIhvV0ujiHwKb8ChpUa4Pg3Q4aof8XBiBikTOH1t0nU J83M/NodyGbGChKmUcUwi/NcLhdxPOp5uzBVw= Received: by 10.141.12.15 with SMTP id p15mr1536449rvi.281.1244099566922; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.65? (host81-152-6-167.range81-152.btcentralplus.com [81.152.6.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f42sm2040098rvb.51.2009.06.04.00.12.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A2773E5.5010702@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:12:37 +0100 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mohacsi Janos CC: JiangSheng 66104 , Seiichi Kawamura , Gert Doering , "Fleischman, Eric" , "Templin, Fred L" , Re'mi Despre's , v6ops@ops.ietf.org, guoseu@huawei.com, "Russert, Steven W" Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0719F@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <000001c9d502$9843c980$5b0c6f0a@china.huawei.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0726E@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F075C2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <4A127FA0.6050603@free.fr> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F43989@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090519192430.GK2776@Space.Net> <474EEBD229DF754FB83D256004D021080BC9A0D9@XCH-NW-6V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090520062916.GN2776@Space.Net> <4A13B880.3050407@mesh.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: Janos, (Delayed reply, sorry) On 2009-05-20 15:25, Mohacsi Janos wrote: > > > Janos Mohacsi > Network Engineer, Research Associate, Head of Network Planning and Projects > NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY > Key 70EF9882: DEC2 C685 1ED4 C95A 145F 4300 6F64 7B00 70EF 9882 > > On Wed, 20 May 2009, JiangSheng 66104 wrote: > >>> A document such as this is very helpful and I thank the authors. >>> One concern I have about this kind of model is the widespread >>> ICMP filtering in IPv4 networks. I see many ISPs that filter ICMPv6 >>> just as they do with IPv4 and has been causing problmes. This >>> is especially important in a tunnel based solution such as this. >> >> Hi, Seiichi, thanks for your reply. I understand your concern. Yes, >> ICMP fliter is a problem. We will take this in count later. > > They should have a look at this draft: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4890 > Do you think the draft needs to do any more than recommending to follow the recommendations in 4890? It seems as if that should be sufficient. Any other points in this draft that we should fix before the cutoff date? Brian From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 4 08:09:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96253A690C for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:09:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VkTak7YuAe2A for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143E13A6AF1 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MCETI-000IO1-6K for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:03:12 +0000 Received: from [2001:738:0:411::241] (helo=mail.ki.iif.hu) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MCET3-000IN6-7b for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:03:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.ki.iif.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1600284FC2; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:02:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mignon.ki.iif.hu Received: from mail.ki.iif.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mignon.ki.iif.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Y0iP2ZUvT12y; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:02:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.ki.iif.hu (Postfix, from userid 9002) id DD68584E2B; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:02:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ki.iif.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA63B84BF9; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:02:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:02:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Mohacsi Janos X-X-Sender: mohacsi@mignon.ki.iif.hu To: Brian E Carpenter cc: JiangSheng 66104 , Seiichi Kawamura , Gert Doering , "Fleischman, Eric" , "Templin, Fred L" , Re'mi Despre's , v6ops@ops.ietf.org, guoseu@huawei.com, "Russert, Steven W" Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn In-Reply-To: <4A2773E5.5010702@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0719F@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <000001c9d502$9843c980$5b0c6f0a@china.huawei.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0726E@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F075C2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <4A127FA0.6050603@free.fr> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F43989@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090519192430.GK2776@Space.Net> <474EEBD229DF754FB83D256004D021080BC9A0D9@XCH-NW-6V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090520062916.GN2776@Space.Net> <4A13B880.3050407@mesh.ad.jp> <4A2773E5.5010702@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Janos, > > (Delayed reply, sorry) > > > On 2009-05-20 15:25, Mohacsi Janos wrote: >> >> >> Janos Mohacsi >> Network Engineer, Research Associate, Head of Network Planning and Projects >> NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY >> Key 70EF9882: DEC2 C685 1ED4 C95A 145F 4300 6F64 7B00 70EF 9882 >> >> On Wed, 20 May 2009, JiangSheng 66104 wrote: >> >>>> A document such as this is very helpful and I thank the authors. >>>> One concern I have about this kind of model is the widespread >>>> ICMP filtering in IPv4 networks. I see many ISPs that filter ICMPv6 >>>> just as they do with IPv4 and has been causing problmes. This >>>> is especially important in a tunnel based solution such as this. >>> >>> Hi, Seiichi, thanks for your reply. I understand your concern. Yes, >>> ICMP fliter is a problem. We will take this in count later. >> >> They should have a look at this draft: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4890 >> > > Do you think the draft needs to do any more than recommending to follow > the recommendations in 4890? It seems as if that should be sufficient. This should be enough. Best Regards, Janos From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 4 08:48:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24F33A6E24 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.135 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.135 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.640, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cv2ubCXQNXlT for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0550F3A6E03 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MCF83-000N2v-W4 for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:45:19 +0000 Received: from [130.76.64.48] (helo=slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MCF7s-000N0y-Dg for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:45:13 +0000 Received: from slb-av-01.boeing.com (slb-av-01.boeing.com [129.172.13.4]) by slb-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/8.14.0/SMTPOUT) with ESMTP id n54FiW3x015943 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slb-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slb-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id n54FiWAA017195; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwbh-11.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.55.84]) by slb-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id n54FiScH017044; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.54.35]) by XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:44:31 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:44:16 -0700 Message-ID: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A10603D4B6@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn Thread-Index: AcnlJYxX85VsfBLPQiquggTELqIEngAAujOA References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0719F@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <000001c9d502$9843c980$5b0c6f0a@china.huawei.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0726E@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F075C2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com><4A127FA0.6050603@free.fr> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F43989@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090519192430.GK2776@Space.Net> <474EEBD229DF754FB83D256004D021080BC9A0D9@XCH-NW-6V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090520062916.GN2776@Space.Net> <4A13B880.3050407@mesh.ad.jp> <4A2773E5.5010702@gmail.com> From: "Templin, Fred L" To: "Mohacsi Janos" , "Brian E Carpenter" Cc: "JiangSheng 66104" , "Seiichi Kawamura" , "Gert Doering" , "Fleischman, Eric" , "Re'mi Despre's" , , , "Russert, Steven W" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2009 15:44:31.0678 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A388DE0:01C9E52B] Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: > > Do you think the draft needs to do any more than recommending to follow > > the recommendations in 4890? It seems as if that should be sufficient. >=20 > This should be enough. Regarding the 4890, there is advice in that document that I would like to understand better. In Appendix A.2, it says: "If a network chooses to generate packets that are no larger than the Guaranteed Minimum MTU (1280 octets) and the site's links to the wider Internet have corresponding MTUs, Packet Too Big messages should not be expected at the firewall and could be dropped if they arrive." But, that would seem to be in conflict with the text of Section 5 of RFC2460, where the reader is informed that the network can return PTB messages reporting MTU values smaller than 1280 if a protocol translator is in the path. The host should then react to these PTBs by inserting a fragment header with (MF=3D0; Offset=3D0) in subsequent packets. With the (RFC4890, Appendix A.2) text however, this behavior is suppressed. Where did the RFC4890 text come from? And, why is it there? 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This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

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You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
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No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Faith@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Faith McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

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From myers@acutecprecision.com Sun Jun 7 09:37:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1DA3A6B86 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:37:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -44.361 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-44.361 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_EQ_RU=0.595, HOST_EQ_BROADBND=1.118, HOST_EQ_RU=0.875, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0BmbeRC0vuRG for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 78-106-75-38.broadband.corbina.ru (78-106-75-38.broadband.corbina.ru [78.106.75.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 907FB3A6807 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:37:36 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Shopper [$700/week] From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090607163737.907FB3A6807@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Dewayne@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From msfh-brazzaville-finco@amsterdam.msf.org Sun Jun 7 11:47:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E934E3A6BD3 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:47:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -56.157 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-56.157 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_CZ=0.445, HOST_EQ_BROADBND=1.118, HOST_EQ_CZ=0.904, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oVlFrKX7KEGy for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 175.46.broadband11.iol.cz (175.46.broadband11.iol.cz [90.178.46.175]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CD7793A6B4F for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:47:37 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Crisis is Dead! Job for you! From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090607184738.CD7793A6B4F@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Noreen@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From jyodoji@aic-jp.com Sun Jun 7 14:49:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459DD3A6A37 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:49:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -47.61 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-47.61 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K42iL-7AZPua for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 201009025172.user.veloxzone.com.br (201009025172.user.veloxzone.com.br [201.9.25.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A9C03A68A5 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:49:03 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery~Secret Shopper [$650/week] From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090607214905.0A9C03A68A5@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Ramona@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From leanaribeiro@aeronorte.pt Sun Jun 7 19:10:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5480E3A683B for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:10:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -43.64 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-43.64 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MMp16A66wTcO for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aagplc.com (unknown [189.225.35.103]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 65D9E3A6859 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:10:46 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Secret Shopper [$750/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090608021048.65D9E3A6859@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Sterling@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From jeff.lewisdd@adam.com Sun Jun 7 23:12:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACD53A6C5E for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 23:12:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -27.874 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-27.874 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_CHARTER=2.175, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC=4.295, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HOST_EQ_CHARTER=1.295, HOST_EQ_DHCP=1.295, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UtyswjjUTOqe for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 23:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 75-138-248-253.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com (75-138-248-253.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com [75.138.248.253]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A0953A6821 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 23:12:16 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Shopper [$800/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090608061218.1A0953A6821@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 23:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Camille@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From nuno.nuneskitg@allianz.pt Mon Jun 8 01:49:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CDF3A687F for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 01:49:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -43.64 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-43.64 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IUBkYYyIbdOW for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 01:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from americanexpress-travel.com (unknown [189.70.158.166]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4728F3A691D for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 01:49:39 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Shopper [$700/week] From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090608084941.4728F3A691D@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 01:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Audra@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From krisskrossuk@aegiscomputer.com Mon Jun 8 02:17:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5763A684F for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 02:17:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -43.49 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-43.49 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HELO_EQ_PL=1.135, HOST_EQ_PL=1.95, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MX-bwr883Y3F for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 02:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bug66.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (bug66.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [83.18.162.66]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EA923A693C for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 02:17:08 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Secret Shopper [$950/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090608091709.3EA923A693C@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 02:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Eliseo@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From mikerd@alstedconsult.dk Mon Jun 8 05:07:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28283A6BCA for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 05:07:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -44.487 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-44.487 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9TZnATjhEJWo for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 05:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allstream.net (unknown [195.135.234.242]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EE8303A6C3B for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 05:07:30 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery~Secret Shopper [$650/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090608120731.EE8303A6C3B@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 05:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

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From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 8 07:11:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C863A6C7D for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:11:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.828 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.828 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.933, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, J_CHICKENPOX_22=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id abjAL3-LvbVq for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E003A67F4 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MDfTG-000LY5-8u for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:05:06 +0000 Received: from [130.76.32.69] (helo=blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MDfT5-000LX0-El for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:05:00 +0000 Received: from slb-av-01.boeing.com (slb-av-01.boeing.com [129.172.13.4]) by blv-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/8.14.0/SMTPOUT) with ESMTP id n58E48EI006329 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slb-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slb-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id n58E48C2019199; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwbh-11.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.55.84]) by slb-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id n58E3xP6018793; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.54.35]) by XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:04:06 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RFC4890 question (was: RE: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:04:04 -0700 Message-ID: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A10607A4A2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A10603D4B6@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RFC4890 question (was: RE: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn) Thread-Index: AcnlJYxX85VsfBLPQiquggTELqIEngAAujOAAMZISCA= References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0719F@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <000001c9d502$9843c980$5b0c6f0a@china.huawei.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0726E@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F075C2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com><4A127FA0.6050603@free.fr> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F43989@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090519192430.GK2776@Space.Net> <474EEBD229DF754FB83D256004D021080BC9A0D9@XCH-NW-6V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090520062916.GN2776@Space.Net> <4A13B880.3050407@mesh.ad.jp> <4A2773E5.5010702@gmail.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A10603D4B6@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> From: "Templin, Fred L" To: "Elwyn Davies" , "Mohacsi Janos" Cc: "JiangSheng 66104" , "Seiichi Kawamura" , "Gert Doering" , "Fleischman, Eric" , "Re'mi Despre's" , , , "Russert, Steven W" , "Brian E Carpenter" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2009 14:04:06.0580 (UTC) FILETIME=[FCA28F40:01C9E841] Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: I guess I have to ask again. Can the RFC4890 authors please comment on the RFC4890, Section A.2 text questions asked in my previous message (below)? Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Templin, Fred L > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:44 AM > To: Mohacsi Janos; Brian E Carpenter > Cc: JiangSheng 66104; Seiichi Kawamura; Gert Doering; Fleischman, Eric; Re'mi Despre's; > v6ops@ops.ietf.org; guoseu@huawei.com; Russert, Steven W > Subject: RE: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn >=20 > > > Do you think the draft needs to do any more than recommending to > follow > > > the recommendations in 4890? It seems as if that should be > sufficient. > > > > This should be enough. >=20 > Regarding the 4890, there is advice in that document that I > would like to understand better. In Appendix A.2, it says: >=20 > "If a network chooses to generate packets that are no larger than the > Guaranteed Minimum MTU (1280 octets) and the site's links to the > wider Internet have corresponding MTUs, Packet Too Big messages > should not be expected at the firewall and could be dropped if they > arrive." >=20 > But, that would seem to be in conflict with the text of > Section 5 of RFC2460, where the reader is informed that > the network can return PTB messages reporting MTU values > smaller than 1280 if a protocol translator is in the path. > The host should then react to these PTBs by inserting a > fragment header with (MF=3D0; Offset=3D0) in subsequent packets. > With the (RFC4890, Appendix A.2) text however, this behavior > is suppressed. >=20 > Where did the RFC4890 text come from? And, why is it there? >=20 > Thanks - Fred > fred.l.templin@boeing.com From morales@airbomber.com Mon Jun 8 13:22:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7135A3A6C7D for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:22:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -17.412 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.412 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_95=3, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_EQ_PL=1.135, HELO_MISMATCH_PL=1.448, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 379SMGDyNp9l for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alejaja.pl (unknown [189.70.108.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CE45C3A69DC for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:22:32 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: BestBuy.com Deal of the Day From: v6ops-archive@lists.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090608202233.CE45C3A69DC@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:22:32 -0700 (PDT)
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From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Tue Jun 9 01:18:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0793A6E1F for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 01:18:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_22=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id orrJK-G7DKWD for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 01:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156AA3A6912 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 01:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MDwRr-000JiV-Vs for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:12:47 +0000 Received: from [2001:738:0:411::241] (helo=mail.ki.iif.hu) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MDwRb-000JeF-M1 for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:12:41 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.ki.iif.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A7385003; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:12:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mignon.ki.iif.hu Received: from mail.ki.iif.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mignon.ki.iif.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id e+xks7wykZlC; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:12:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.ki.iif.hu (Postfix, from userid 9002) id 5877685002; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:12:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ki.iif.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E6184EE8; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:12:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:12:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Mohacsi Janos X-X-Sender: mohacsi@mignon.ki.iif.hu To: "Templin, Fred L" cc: Elwyn Davies , JiangSheng 66104 , Seiichi Kawamura , Gert Doering , "Fleischman, Eric" , Re'mi Despre's , v6ops@ops.ietf.org, guoseu@huawei.com, "Russert, Steven W" , Brian E Carpenter Subject: Re: RFC4890 question (was: RE: New Version Notification for draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn) In-Reply-To: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A10607A4A2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0719F@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <000001c9d502$9843c980$5b0c6f0a@china.huawei.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0726E@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F075C2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com><4A127FA0.6050603@free.fr> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F43989@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090519192430.GK2776@Space.Net> <474EEBD229DF754FB83D256004D021080BC9A0D9@XCH-NW-6V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090520062916.GN2776@Space.Net> <4A13B880.3050407@mesh.ad.jp> <4A2773E5.5010702@gmail.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A10603D4B6@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A10607A4A2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: Dear Fred, I try to figure out from my notes what was the reason of the text. Best Regards, Janos Mohacsi Network Engineer, Research Associate, Head of Network Planning and Projects NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY Key 70EF9882: DEC2 C685 1ED4 C95A 145F 4300 6F64 7B00 70EF 9882 On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Templin, Fred L wrote: > I guess I have to ask again. Can the RFC4890 authors please > comment on the RFC4890, Section A.2 text questions asked in > my previous message (below)? > > Fred > fred.l.templin@boeing.com > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Templin, Fred L >> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:44 AM >> To: Mohacsi Janos; Brian E Carpenter >> Cc: JiangSheng 66104; Seiichi Kawamura; Gert Doering; Fleischman, > Eric; Re'mi Despre's; >> v6ops@ops.ietf.org; guoseu@huawei.com; Russert, Steven W >> Subject: RE: New Version Notification for > draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn >> >>>> Do you think the draft needs to do any more than recommending to >> follow >>>> the recommendations in 4890? It seems as if that should be >> sufficient. >>> >>> This should be enough. >> >> Regarding the 4890, there is advice in that document that I >> would like to understand better. In Appendix A.2, it says: >> >> "If a network chooses to generate packets that are no larger than > the >> Guaranteed Minimum MTU (1280 octets) and the site's links to the >> wider Internet have corresponding MTUs, Packet Too Big messages >> should not be expected at the firewall and could be dropped if they >> arrive." >> >> But, that would seem to be in conflict with the text of >> Section 5 of RFC2460, where the reader is informed that >> the network can return PTB messages reporting MTU values >> smaller than 1280 if a protocol translator is in the path. >> The host should then react to these PTBs by inserting a >> fragment header with (MF=0; Offset=0) in subsequent packets. >> With the (RFC4890, Appendix A.2) text however, this behavior >> is suppressed. >> >> Where did the RFC4890 text come from? And, why is it there? >> >> Thanks - Fred >> fred.l.templin@boeing.com > > > From kbmwg@almaden.ibm.com Tue Jun 9 11:30:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFBA3A681A for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:30:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_VERIZON_P=2.144, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HELO_EQ_VERIZON_POOL=1.495, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ysED79BZ5VI5 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-243-231-203.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net (pool-71-243-231-203.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.243.231.203]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B55283A67DF for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:30:49 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Your Buy.com order #500617 From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090609183049.B55283A67DF@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:30:49 -0700 (PDT)
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From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 11 00:28:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14C63A67A1 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:27:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.547 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.547 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id joKYYWSy02Zz for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE903A6B07 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MEecH-000O7d-3I for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:22:29 +0000 Received: from [209.85.146.183] (helo=wa-out-1112.google.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MEec5-000O2k-UR for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:22:23 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j37so291705waf.9 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:22:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=74Jp4y028nBoMy1ZoKxiQSr82ZfptBNxERVHIyyfrHg=; b=UBsHIHbbzsUkREiHrvsU2wKdzf99A95/Sfln1+aupfEYnYfscOYQghvGV3LAJlYUae xwtwIDCf28kuP0S2bUBo+mVm+YyxWA87ApsMEzpztYryJGXnzEbcpjZYoAH87LrLhRe4 Vd01RLZ/QDaocjQWfws6p2DHODscfkMiwFv5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=DZuP8jQcQxVED1IutEH14Inri4bH3Qk+OCyEZPmWe7WN0K+2GAj+vtnXtw8G8n2atc Ktn5aQqww0mQB300Ou4ru/3OnJ9WJGKyvXjJkVGRZI3cojxX3a/m4rwOD9XDR6S9ZdNl EWOkSC7ARiJPttqTUvNgJC7LHUVJSdW3TuLq0= Received: by 10.115.89.18 with SMTP id r18mr3614894wal.111.1244704937203; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.65? (host86-143-122-26.range86-143.btcentralplus.com [86.143.122.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l30sm794975waf.35.2009.06.11.00.22.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A30B0A2.8010207@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:22:10 +0100 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IPv6 Operations Subject: draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0719F@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <000001c9d502$9843c980$5b0c6f0a@china.huawei.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0726E@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F075C2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <4A127FA0.6050603@free.fr> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F43989@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090519192430.GK2776@Space.Net> <474EEBD229DF754FB83D256004D021080BC9A0D9@XCH-NW-6V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090520062916.GN2776@Space.Net> <4A13B880.3050407@mesh.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: Any more input on this draft before we update it? We plan to ask for WG adoption in Stockholm. Brian, Sheng and Dayong From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 11 04:31:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F1F3A6DE8 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:31:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.593 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.593 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.098, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sqhNYtn7W+S6 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE5D3A6940 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MEiQc-000Dy4-9g for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:26:42 +0000 Received: from [171.71.176.117] (helo=sj-iport-6.cisco.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MEiQL-000DwW-Cy for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:26:36 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,202,1243814400"; d="scan'208";a="321201062" Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2009 11:26:24 +0000 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5BBQOCU016419; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:26:24 -0700 Received: from stealth-10-32-244-220.cisco.com (stealth-10-32-244-220.cisco.com [10.32.244.220]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5BBQO51004560; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:26:24 GMT Cc: IPv6 Operations , Behave Chairs Message-Id: <849BBBF9-2DC5-4322-AD9C-AD1F9DB5BD86@cisco.com> From: Fred Baker To: Brian E Carpenter In-Reply-To: <4A30B0A2.8010207@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:26:21 -0700 References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0719F@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <000001c9d502$9843c980$5b0c6f0a@china.huawei.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0726E@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F075C2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <4A127FA0.6050603@free.fr> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F43989@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090519192430.GK2776@Space.Net> <474EEBD229DF754FB83D256004D021080BC9A0D9@XCH-NW-6V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090520062916.GN2776@Space.Net> <4A13B880.3050407@mesh.ad.jp> <4A30B0A2.8010207@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=355; t=1244719584; x=1245583584; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fred@cisco.com; z=From:=20Fred=20Baker=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn |Sender:=20; bh=Fnxibvw6URgpP7KqvVqG/kqhirHb6umRM0/rd/o9Dvc=; b=BMjgzpSNlynG28qeCa1ywRkOP0ZnPF36P+AXcqaq/Ap3erMdENei5xES94 9KgojpnJBw1abVV/qj4N74RtKpf5XZxE+iLdAdy6EK5yJbyF/Birpljy1SmF lNXy7oojO4; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=fred@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: On Jun 11, 2009, at 12:22 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Any more input on this draft before we update it? We plan to > ask for WG adoption in Stockholm. > > Brian, Sheng and Dayong Well, yes. My understanding is that the topic of CGNs is moving to behave, and so should be submitted to behave. You can verify with the behave chairs. From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 11 07:40:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3DC3A6AF1 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:40:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.602, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FSAkONIRUiTy for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382B43A6AE5 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MElOC-000LzZ-Kv for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:36:24 +0000 Received: from [130.76.32.69] (helo=blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MElNq-000Lr7-8j for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:36:07 +0000 Received: from slb-av-01.boeing.com (slb-av-01.boeing.com [129.172.13.4]) by blv-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/8.14.0/SMTPOUT) with ESMTP id n5BEZqRg004785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slb-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slb-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id n5BEZqPa007554; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwbh-11.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.55.84]) by slb-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id n5BEZn1l007472; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.54.35]) by XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:35:46 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:35:44 -0700 Message-ID: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A1060B4733@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <849BBBF9-2DC5-4322-AD9C-AD1F9DB5BD86@cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn Thread-Index: Acnqicu+ZZ7EhzdrSRmbtCDacSZ1VAAF1Ipw References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0719F@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <000001c9d502$9843c980$5b0c6f0a@china.huawei.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0726E@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F075C2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <4A127FA0.6050603@free.fr> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F43989@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090519192430.GK2776@Space.Net> <474EEBD229DF754FB83D256004D021080BC9A0D9@XCH-NW-6V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090520062916.GN2776@Space.Net> <4A13B880.3050407@mesh.ad.jp> <4A30B0A2.8010207@gmail.com> <849BBBF9-2DC5-4322-AD9C-AD1F9DB5BD86@cisco.com> From: "Templin, Fred L" To: "Fred Baker" , "Brian E Carpenter" Cc: "IPv6 Operations" , "Behave Chairs" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2009 14:35:46.0816 (UTC) FILETIME=[E880D000:01C9EAA1] Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: Fred, =20 > Well, yes. My understanding is that the topic of CGNs is moving to > behave, and so should be submitted to behave. You can verify with the > behave chairs. The subject matter of this document seems more concerned with what IPv6 operational functions could be placed on a platform that might also support a CGN function, rather than the behavioral aspects of CGN itself. If the bulk of the material is about IPv6 transitions, wouldn't that qualify the document to remain targeted to this group? Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 11 08:24:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C349F3A6D11 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:24:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.029, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id phMts29kSjXJ for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC15628C11B for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MEm6c-0004Iw-GR for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:22:18 +0000 Received: from [171.71.176.70] (helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MEm6R-0004DL-3w for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:22:13 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,203,1243814400"; d="scan'208";a="198117740" Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2009 15:22:06 +0000 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5BFM6fU008934; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:22:06 -0700 Received: from dhcp-171-71-111-16.cisco.com (dhcp-171-71-111-16.cisco.com [171.71.111.16]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5BFM6bc019829; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:22:06 GMT Cc: "Brian E Carpenter" , "IPv6 Operations" , "Behave Chairs" Message-Id: From: Fred Baker To: "Templin, Fred L" In-Reply-To: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A1060B4733@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:22:05 -0700 References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0719F@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <000001c9d502$9843c980$5b0c6f0a@china.huawei.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0726E@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F075C2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <4A127FA0.6050603@free.fr> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F43989@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090519192430.GK2776@Space.Net> <474EEBD229DF754FB83D256004D021080BC9A0D9@XCH-NW-6V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090520062916.GN2776@Space.Net> <4A13B880.3050407@mesh.ad.jp> <4A30B0A2.8010207@gmail.com> <849BBBF9-2DC5-4322-AD9C-AD1F9DB5BD86@cisco.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A1060B4733@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=911; t=1244733726; x=1245597726; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim2002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fred@cisco.com; z=From:=20Fred=20Baker=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn |Sender:=20; bh=xrvGycUi3Za4aOEVVO8IbhFk1nbEg7SAEfJQXLC6g0I=; b=MI0UYxPyKHpRnJKfrWnjeI9ph3Dj3oyLdrcd9DK5Uf275AFvUNG8b+5LGM Iym0HPPesdJ8Xt2V5BaHQ/lE6ITX1/c09EeoqZjEAY1LFjY/SEFVW5pzmClE qf5giBM0dN; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=fred@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: well, remembering that we are actually NOT CHARTERED TO DISCUSS TRANSITION ALGORITHMS, no. What I have been told is that matters relating to network address translation and network protocol translation have been moved to the working group chartered to discuss that. On Jun 11, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Templin, Fred L wrote: > Fred, > >> Well, yes. My understanding is that the topic of CGNs is moving to >> behave, and so should be submitted to behave. You can verify with the >> behave chairs. > > The subject matter of this document seems more concerned > with what IPv6 operational functions could be placed on a > platform that might also support a CGN function, rather > than the behavioral aspects of CGN itself. If the bulk > of the material is about IPv6 transitions, wouldn't that > qualify the document to remain targeted to this group? > > Fred > fred.l.templin@boeing.com From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Thu Jun 11 08:26:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3374A3A6D07 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:26:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.064 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.064 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.569, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 36CXKE0P9D4g for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD9A3A67F4 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MEm9p-0004uZ-7R for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:25:37 +0000 Received: from [130.76.64.48] (helo=slb-smtpout-01.boeing.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MEm9e-0004tj-97 for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:25:31 +0000 Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com (stl-av-01.boeing.com [192.76.190.6]) by slb-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/8.14.0/SMTPOUT) with ESMTP id n5BFPG76028724 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id n5BFPG3e008948; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:25:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwbh-11.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.55.84]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id n5BFPFoe008904; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:25:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.54.35]) by XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:25:16 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:25:14 -0700 Message-ID: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A1060B47AF@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn Thread-Index: AcnqqHL4fZW4T+w2TmmqYrHsC4K1AAAAB2Fg References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0719F@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <000001c9d502$9843c980$5b0c6f0a@china.huawei.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0726E@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F075C2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <4A127FA0.6050603@free.fr> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F43989@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090519192430.GK2776@Space.Net> <474EEBD229DF754FB83D256004D021080BC9A0D9@XCH-NW-6V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090520062916.GN2776@Space.Net> <4A13B880.3050407@mesh.ad.jp> <4A30B0A2.8010207@gmail.com> <849BBBF9-2DC5-4322-AD9C-AD1F9DB5BD86@cisco.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A1060B4733@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> From: "Templin, Fred L" To: "Fred Baker" Cc: "Brian E Carpenter" , "IPv6 Operations" , "Behave Chairs" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2009 15:25:16.0045 (UTC) FILETIME=[D24D33D0:01C9EAA8] Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: Fred, > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Baker [mailto:fred@cisco.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:22 AM > To: Templin, Fred L > Cc: Brian E Carpenter; IPv6 Operations; Behave Chairs > Subject: Re: draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn >=20 > well, remembering that we are actually NOT CHARTERED TO DISCUSS > TRANSITION ALGORITHMS, no. What I have been told is that matters > relating to network address translation and network protocol > translation have been moved to the working group chartered to discuss > that. Sorry - I used a wrong word. I meant to say "IPv6 operations"; not "IPv6 ****sitions". Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com >=20 > On Jun 11, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Templin, Fred L wrote: >=20 > > Fred, > > > >> Well, yes. My understanding is that the topic of CGNs is moving to > >> behave, and so should be submitted to behave. You can verify with the > >> behave chairs. > > > > The subject matter of this document seems more concerned > > with what IPv6 operational functions could be placed on a > > platform that might also support a CGN function, rather > > than the behavioral aspects of CGN itself. If the bulk > > of the material is about IPv6 transitions, wouldn't that > > qualify the document to remain targeted to this group? > > > > Fred > > fred.l.templin@boeing.com From jcrum@aii.edu Thu Jun 11 14:40:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9D13A6A62 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:40:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.285 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.285 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_95=3, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_3=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0BXwYQrCDxtW for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 263.net (unknown [201.17.234.231]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C5123A6A87 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:40:06 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: you subscribe #49277 From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090611214007.5C5123A6A87@core3.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:40:06 -0700 (PDT)
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From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Fri Jun 12 00:03:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA17B3A6C9C for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:03:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.105 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.105 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MWPe99ZW529e for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44E13A6AAA for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MF0i9-000Lg3-JF for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:58:01 +0000 Received: from [209.85.198.236] (helo=rv-out-0506.google.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MF0hy-000Ler-0R for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:57:55 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so610802rvb.41 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:57:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MxWWWjqSyTxdH1Dd8evc2oM0yJMg8j0rymcEbFC1Bvo=; b=tJyTtoPtEXBTvIqCisiTghC2JL0dsMKKFMrqNDgkOYOLui/LfhpkBMXmBDzfZ6f41g PsGYd4LXl1RhUaSlu+ymUKg28ex/Pj3IfncQjbWxzCSze/Ko9IbS1UUAelcARwXQztiu tzqLVlgTg3z88TnONCMIjrhiDE5JmHNjJVV+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=H1q/OMPmceoDhchQIBQ5Z1SmI6Vujz7K+NWZ3KHe8fkd18wy1SAwapH8XEz3pvZnGz 01WoFn/tHv3/byNM+9ZrRnM8HP7ec7aSQw7fUPL4/Cp4R6AKY3vBJPSISWIiXs83TwXF 0EjN8kBEZ9pqNBSiSOBDE/bey8UOsAW2Injco= Received: by 10.140.141.21 with SMTP id o21mr2635046rvd.80.1244789869002; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.65? (host86-147-216-67.range86-147.btcentralplus.com [86.147.216.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g31sm439917rvb.33.2009.06.11.23.57.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A31FC65.8040409@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:57:41 +0100 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Templin, Fred L" CC: Fred Baker , IPv6 Operations , Behave Chairs Subject: Re: draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn References: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0719F@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <000001c9d502$9843c980$5b0c6f0a@china.huawei.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F0726E@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F075C2@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <4A127FA0.6050603@free.fr> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A105F43989@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090519192430.GK2776@Space.Net> <474EEBD229DF754FB83D256004D021080BC9A0D9@XCH-NW-6V1.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20090520062916.GN2776@Space.Net> <4A13B880.3050407@mesh.ad.jp> <4A30B0A2.8010207@gmail.com> <849BBBF9-2DC5-4322-AD9C-AD1F9DB5BD86@cisco.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A1060B4733@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A1060B47AF@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A1060B47AF@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: Fred and Fred, The draft explicitly does not propose any new mechanisms; it describes operational scenarios using existing mechanisms or proposed future mechanisms. I don't see a better fit than the v6ops charter at the moment. Brian On 2009-06-11 16:25, Templin, Fred L wrote: > Fred, > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fred Baker [mailto:fred@cisco.com] >> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:22 AM >> To: Templin, Fred L >> Cc: Brian E Carpenter; IPv6 Operations; Behave Chairs >> Subject: Re: draft-jiang-v6ops-incremental-cgn >> >> well, remembering that we are actually NOT CHARTERED TO DISCUSS >> TRANSITION ALGORITHMS, no. What I have been told is that matters >> relating to network address translation and network protocol >> translation have been moved to the working group chartered to discuss >> that. > > Sorry - I used a wrong word. I meant to say "IPv6 operations"; > not "IPv6 ****sitions". > > Fred > fred.l.templin@boeing.com > >> On Jun 11, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Templin, Fred L wrote: >> >>> Fred, >>> >>>> Well, yes. My understanding is that the topic of CGNs is moving to >>>> behave, and so should be submitted to behave. You can verify with > the >>>> behave chairs. >>> The subject matter of this document seems more concerned >>> with what IPv6 operational functions could be placed on a >>> platform that might also support a CGN function, rather >>> than the behavioral aspects of CGN itself. If the bulk >>> of the material is about IPv6 transitions, wouldn't that >>> qualify the document to remain targeted to this group? >>> >>> Fred >>> fred.l.templin@boeing.com > > From kjmairfield@agpcommunity.com Fri Jun 12 08:54:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5689F3A6AAF for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:54:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -20.487 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-20.487 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_60=1, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_EQ_PL=1.135, HELO_MISMATCH_PL=1.448, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_3=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=1.643, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP=0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SOCKS=0.801, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m3uZEvigkCF6 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abcdata.com.pl (unknown [122.169.7.174]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B3F293A6A51 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:54:37 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: The confirmatory letter #51438 was sent From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090612155438.B3F293A6A51@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:54:37 -0700 (PDT)
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V6ops WG,
 
We have submitted a new I-D that relates to the ongoing protocol trans= lator work and to IPv6 operations.
 
All comments are very welcome.
       
        Teemu
 
----------
 
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
 
        Title   &nbs= p;       : Generation of ICMPv6 Echo Replies = for Teredo Clients
        Author(s)   =     : T. Savolainen, R. Denis-Courmont
        Filename   &= nbsp;    : draft-denis-icmpv6-generation-for-teredo-00.txt
        Pages   &nbs= p;       : 6
        Date    = ;        : 2009-05-28
 
Teredo uses return routing to discover the closest Teredo relay corres= ponding to any given peer.  Discovery is achieved by sending an
ICMPv6 Echo Request and waiting for the appropriate relay to forward t= he ICMPv6 Echo Reply back.  Unanswered ICMPv6 Echo Requests make Tered= o clients assume that the peer is unreachable.  This document identifi= es two scenarios where a middlebox should detect the lack of
ICMPv6 Echo Reply and craft one toward the Teredo client in order to a= void possibly erroneous peer unreachability assumptions.
 
A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
 
Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
 
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* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Elvin@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

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From mchen17@alzus.jnj.com Sun Jun 21 11:25:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA793A67D0 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:25:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -76.053 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-76.053 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_DYNAMIC_SPLIT_IP=3.493, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7CTHEFRdvE96 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81.122.89-79.rev.gaoland.net (81.122.89-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.89.122.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 42B873A68F9 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery~Secret Shopper [$650/week] From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090621182539.42B873A68F9@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Charmaine@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From karina.pietrzycka@aigcredit.pl Sun Jun 21 14:02:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE8D3A691A for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:02:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -87.625 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-87.625 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tvef-qhBr1rR for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host198-12.kaskada.net (host198-12.kaskada.net [81.161.198.12]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 26C3E3A682A for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:02:04 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Shopper [$900/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080222-0, 2008-02-22), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-Id: <20090621210206.26C3E3A682A@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Galen@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From jerome.vermeylenn@altius.com Sun Jun 21 14:24:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0F73A695B for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:24:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -86.074 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-86.074 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id keECiVBYV30d for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aii.edu (unknown [189.35.58.178]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 582F028C0D6 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:23:48 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery~Secret Shopper [$650/week] From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090621212353.582F028C0D6@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Eddie@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From na143princess45@abacusinfo.com Sun Jun 21 14:53:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC3728C0E1 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:53:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -76.053 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-76.053 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_DYNAMIC_SPLIT_IP=3.493, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fr62Rlg0M1Mt for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 117.242.91-79.rev.gaoland.net (117.242.91-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.91.242.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A89B23A6A4D for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:53:43 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Shopper [$600/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090621215343.A89B23A6A4D@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Pat@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From karine.boree@agglo-nice.fr Sun Jun 21 19:37:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA4C28C189 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:37:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -84.325 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-84.325 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_UK=1.749, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kTw1PV3fw62c for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alcoholconcern.org.uk (unknown [75.137.144.162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 58CB828C16A for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:37:05 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery Secret Shopper [$700/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090622023706.58CB828C16A@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Basil@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From lee4651@amasond.com Sun Jun 21 22:59:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571A23A6784 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:59:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -83.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-83.556 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, RELAY_IS_222=2.179, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id af9YoVwvLFfZ for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agate.plala.or.jp (unknown [222.126.38.59]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C38093A6997 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:59:13 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Secret Shopper [$750/week] From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090622055914.C38093A6997@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Darnell@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

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Best choice http://www.aduroik.com/?cgleyuanxnng best regards Alfonso Haskins --===============1736849406==-- From nelms@acctcorp.com Mon Jun 22 02:17:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253453A6CAB for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:17:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -81.357 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-81.357 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oFbKHtt3gx1R for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host86-161-172-243.range86-161.btcentralplus.com (host86-161-172-243.range86-161.btcentralplus.com [86.161.172.243]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 10F113A677C for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:17:12 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Secret Shopper [$750/week] From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090622091713.10F113A677C@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Hollie@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From nancy-santarellib@aldeasamexico.com Mon Jun 22 07:06:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B0C3A6933 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:06:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -85.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-85.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y05k9mrCFNBN for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alfa.com (unknown [189.29.193.242]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A4F6A3A6A07 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:06:39 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Shopper [$700/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080715-0, 15/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Not-Tested Message-Id: <20090622140639.A4F6A3A6A07@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Silas@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From lagura@ambergrissolutions.com Mon Jun 22 07:48:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEA83A6D51 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:48:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -89.005 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-89.005 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9AkYA1atwWpc for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 121ware.com (unknown [81.214.190.177]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 139663A6AE7 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:47:59 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Shopper [$900/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090622144800.139663A6AE7@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Vicente@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From nilton@afubesp.com.br Mon Jun 22 14:50:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95343A6898 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:50:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.452 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.452 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id igu5NEb-IL6l for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aul93-6-88-171-216-70.fbx.proxad.net (aul93-6-88-171-216-70.fbx.proxad.net [88.171.216.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F2583A690C for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:50:08 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Your Buy.com order #628317 From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090622215010.2F2583A690C@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:50:08 -0700 (PDT)
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From majordomo@advocatenkantoordekleine.com Mon Jun 22 14:55:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78D13A690C for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:55:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -67.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-67.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC=4.295, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qxl6zAohlyKj for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 201-41-199-165.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br (201-41-199-165.cscgo701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [201.41.199.165]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EFAAD3A69C8 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:55:31 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Re: Secret Shopper [$950/week] From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090622215533.EFAAD3A69C8@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Angel@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

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Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Adela@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From kewlman@airmalta.com.mt Tue Jun 23 05:46:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6241628C308 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:46:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -11.947 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.947 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HELO_EQ_NE_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, HOST_EQ_NE_JP=2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fBS1b1+H5roY for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p2077-ipbfp605motosinmat.mie.ocn.ne.jp (p2077-ipbfp605motosinmat.mie.ocn.ne.jp [58.92.121.77]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C099828C309 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:46:27 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Your registration #847086 From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090623124628.C099828C309@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:46:27 -0700 (PDT)
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From nermall@amada.com Tue Jun 23 05:55:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875DE28C31B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:55:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -83.153 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-83.153 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HELO_EQ_PL=1.135, HOST_EQ_PL=1.95, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OytuM8yBbHPX for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aua13.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl (aua13.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.8.13]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 87E4B28C316 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:55:39 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Secret Shopper [$750/week] From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090623125540.87E4B28C316@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Silvia@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From on1483@agefinance.com Tue Jun 23 06:39:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CD428C350 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:39:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -88.304 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-88.304 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aoHNUWd636vS for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alfagomma.it (unknown [89.235.131.147]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E72D28C330 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:39:49 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Shopper [$800/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090623133950.5E72D28C330@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Mattie@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

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From jose.silva@altitude.com Tue Jun 23 08:30:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988FA28C36B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:30:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -85.275 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-85.275 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lFyKz7niwLG8 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcs201062145043.res-com.wayinternet.com.br (pcs201062145043.res-com.wayinternet.com.br [201.62.145.43]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 37A9828C2D1 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:30:37 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Secret Shopper [$750/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090623153038.37A9828C2D1@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Malcolm@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
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It would be much simpler, but yet sufficient for many unmanaged sites. Also, it could be deployed more rapidly, possibly without needing a =20 major release in some CPEs. In your draft, it could be added as "minimal security" (for example), =20= to distinguish it from "simple security". SPECIFICATION The IPv6 "minimal" security protection is defined as follows: Rx. An incoming IPv6 packet MUST BE REJECTED if it has a destination =20 port that is: - a well known or registered port (i.e. is < 49152), and - not explicitly authorized for IPv4 port forwarding . Ry. An incoming IPv6 packet MUST BE FORWARDED if: - it is not subject to R1, and - it's source address is anycast and doesn't start with the site IPv6 =20= prefix. ORIGIN OF THE PROPOSAL In my home office, the CPE offers native IPv6 without any IPv6-=20 specific security mechanism. This is acceptable for my daily use of IPv6 because the internal =20 firewall of my computer (a Mac) is active. But I once faced the following security problem (which could be =20 permanent if it had not been for a temporary experiment): - I had to open the Mac to incoming VNC connections from another =20 computer of the site. - If I had opened the VNC port in the Mac without disabling IPv6, =20 this would have opened it also for connections from any host of the =20 IPv6 global Internet. - I therefore had to first deactivate IPv6 in the Mac (and reactivate =20= it when I could close again the VNC port in the Mac). In IPv4, there is no such problem because the NAT filters incoming =20 packets having the VNC port as destination port (among many others). DISCUSSION With just rules Rx and Ry above, the level of security achieved, =20 although not identical with that achieved in IPv4 with CPE NATs, is =20= similar. 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See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=testkey; d=space.net; b=P7wQJRVE23gC0hms3S5MJyGr3O66FYKTACTA/F0uB18gs1Rgo/x171QnJV9SWwdJ ; Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:50:29 +0200 From: Gert Doering To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Despr=E9s?= Cc: james woodyatt , IPv6 Operations Subject: Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-06 Message-ID: <20090626155029.GJ26102@Space.Net> References: <59336CC4-7B26-45A7-B712-847417BC4F52@apple.com> <3498D5E1-9975-4533-845A-5AAD45FC7D7E@free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3498D5E1-9975-4533-845A-5AAD45FC7D7E@free.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-NCC-RegID: de.space Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: Hi, On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 04:08:47PM +0200, Rémi Després wrote: > - I had to open the Mac to incoming VNC connections from another > computer of the site. > - If I had opened the VNC port in the Mac without disabling IPv6, > this would have opened it also for connections from any host of the > IPv6 global Internet. 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This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Operations Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPv6 Deployment in Internet Exchange Points (IXPs) Author(s) : R. Gagliano Filename : draft-ietf-v6ops-v6inixp-00.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2009-06-26 This document provides a description of IPv6 deployment in Internet Exchange Points (IXP). It includes information about the switch fabric configuration, the addressing plan options and general organizational tasks to be performed. IXP are mainly a layer 2 device (a switching fabric) and in many case the best recommendations state that the IPv6 data, control and management should not be handled differently than in IPv4. 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(host81-152-7-14.range81-152.btcentralplus.com [81.152.7.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m31sm3921060wag.66.2009.06.26.23.57.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A45C2CA.7070703@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:57:14 +0100 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gert Doering CC: =?UTF-8?B?UsOpbWkgRGVzcHLDqXM=?= , james woodyatt , IPv6 Operations Subject: Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-06 References: <59336CC4-7B26-45A7-B712-847417BC4F52@apple.com> <3498D5E1-9975-4533-845A-5AAD45FC7D7E@free.fr> <20090626155029.GJ26102@Space.Net> In-Reply-To: <20090626155029.GJ26102@Space.Net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: On 2009-06-26 16:50, Gert Doering wrote: > Hi, >=20 > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 04:08:47PM +0200, R=C3=A9mi Despr=C3=A9s wrote:= >> - I had to open the Mac to incoming VNC connections from another =20 >> computer of the site. >> - If I had opened the VNC port in the Mac without disabling IPv6, =20 >> this would have opened it also for connections from any host of the =20 >> IPv6 global Internet. >=20 > I'd argue that this is something that should be improved in the=20 > "host firewall" - instead of "completely closed" and "opened from=20 > everywhere", there should be a third state "open for connections from t= he=20 > local network"... s/local network/trusted zone/ and this reflects the behaviour of at least one very popular personal firewall. I think this is proven safe practice, and actually means that with such a personal firewall installed, the CPE can be wide open. Needless to say, this level of on-board protection is essential for roaming anyway. I'd certainly want my CPE to have an option to switch off all firewall behaviour. Brian From mail@20f.de Sat Jun 27 02:12:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAFF3A6AF6 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:12:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.982 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.982 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, DNS_FROM_RFC_BOGUSMX=1.482, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Ktrom4AzEUL for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp-94-66-203-194.home.otenet.gr (ppp-94-66-203-194.home.otenet.gr [94.66.203.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B17D3A6A6B for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:12:10 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: RE: Q&A Doctor Sylvester From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090627091211.7B17D3A6A6B@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:12:10 -0700 (PDT)
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From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Sat Jun 27 02:17:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390603A6A84 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:17:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cfb9u1fSDHbi for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599BF3A69CB for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MKTyX-0009WK-1L for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:13:33 +0000 Received: from [212.27.42.6] (helo=smtp6-g21.free.fr) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MKTyK-0009VR-UV for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:13:26 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2A4E0807C; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:13:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.13] (per92-10-88-166-221-144.fbx.proxad.net [88.166.221.144]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C966E080F5; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:13:11 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4A45C2CA.7070703@gmail.com> References: <59336CC4-7B26-45A7-B712-847417BC4F52@apple.com> <3498D5E1-9975-4533-845A-5AAD45FC7D7E@free.fr> <20090626155029.GJ26102@Space.Net> <4A45C2CA.7070703@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Cc: James Woodyatt , v6ops Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Despr=E9s?= Subject: Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-06 Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:13:09 +0200 To: Brian E Carpenter , Gert Doering X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: Le 27 juin 09 =E0 08:57, Brian E Carpenter a =E9crit : > On 2009-06-26 16:50, Gert Doering wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 04:08:47PM +0200, R=E9mi Despr=E9s wrote: >>> - I had to open the Mac to incoming VNC connections from another >>> computer of the site. >>> - If I had opened the VNC port in the Mac without disabling IPv6, >>> this would have opened it also for connections from any host of the >>> IPv6 global Internet. >> >> I'd argue that this is something that should be improved in the >> "host firewall" - instead of "completely closed" and "opened from >> everywhere", there should be a third state "open for connections =20 >> from the >> local network"... Same view. As a matter of fact, I sent a security bug report to Apple suggesting =20= it. However, the possibility of a minimal security protection in CPEs =20 should IMHO be _also_ available: - for hosts that don't have good enough firewalls; - for sites where there are several links and where some ports have =20 to be open for link to link connections. > s/local network/trusted zone/ and this reflects the behaviour of at > least one very popular personal firewall. I think this is proven safe > practice, and actually means that with such a personal firewall > installed, the CPE can be wide open. Agreed, but applicable only if one can be sure that all hosts of the =20 site, permanent and temporary, have good enough host firewalls. > Needless to say, this level > of on-board protection is essential for roaming anyway. Doesn't it depend on what is meant by "this level"? (When roaming, closing all ports for ALL incoming calls is typically =20 sufficient. Opening some of them only for intra-link connections is, =20= in my understanding, for hosts in well known sites.) > I'd certainly want my CPE to have an option to switch off all > firewall behaviour. Agreed, provided the default behavior of unmanaged CPEs remains with =20 a minimal security provision for IPv6. RD= From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Sat Jun 27 08:28:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CE128C203 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -109.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.202, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X9eotiDlOCwX for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823223A6A1E for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MKZjp-000Cl8-49 for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:22:45 +0000 Received: from [131.107.115.214] (helo=smtp.microsoft.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MKZja-000Ck9-6p for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:22:38 +0000 Received: from TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.79.174) by TK5-EXGWY-E803.partners.extranet.microsoft.com (10.251.56.169) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.99.4; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:22:29 -0700 Received: from TK5EX14MLTW652.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com (157.54.71.68) by TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.79.174) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.0.601.1; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:22:29 -0700 Received: from TK5EX14MBXW653.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([169.254.3.224]) by TK5EX14MLTW652.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.71.68]) with mapi; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:22:29 -0700 From: Christian Huitema To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Despr=E9s?= , Brian E Carpenter , Gert Doering CC: James Woodyatt , v6ops Subject: RE: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-06 Thread-Topic: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-06 Thread-Index: AQHJ8HOCnqmXAW2x5kKL5ryXaizgZZBZY7CAgAAcaoCAAP1YAIAAJfmA///xfDA= Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:22:15 +0000 Message-ID: <6B55F0F93C3E9D45AF283313B8D342BA01D1BC@TK5EX14MBXW653.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> References: <59336CC4-7B26-45A7-B712-847417BC4F52@apple.com> <3498D5E1-9975-4533-845A-5AAD45FC7D7E@free.fr> <20090626155029.GJ26102@Space.Net> <4A45C2CA.7070703@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: > > I'd certainly want my CPE to have an option to switch off all > > firewall behaviour. > > Agreed, provided the default behavior of unmanaged CPEs remains with > a minimal security provision for IPv6. Why? If the users says "off", that ought to mean "off". Period. Not some ki= nd of halfway on. -- Christian Huitema From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Sat Jun 27 08:52:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528533A69D5 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:52:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.547 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.547 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b43aZkWGVfrB for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A763A6919 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MKaB0-000FLx-Nk for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:50:50 +0000 Received: from [171.71.176.117] (helo=sj-iport-6.cisco.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MKaAp-000FKN-Ot for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:50:45 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,301,1243814400"; d="scan'208";a="333048059" Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Jun 2009 15:50:39 +0000 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5RFodhV029022; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:50:39 -0700 Received: from stealth-10-32-244-219.cisco.com (stealth-10-32-244-219.cisco.com [10.32.244.219]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5RFod3H013703; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:50:39 GMT Cc: Gert Doering , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Despr=E9s?= , james woodyatt , IPv6 Operations Message-Id: <1E7EE3A7-058F-486A-954C-54F36BF30267@cisco.com> From: Fred Baker To: Brian E Carpenter In-Reply-To: <4A45C2CA.7070703@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-06 Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:50:38 -0700 References: <59336CC4-7B26-45A7-B712-847417BC4F52@apple.com> <3498D5E1-9975-4533-845A-5AAD45FC7D7E@free.fr> <20090626155029.GJ26102@Space.Net> <4A45C2CA.7070703@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=393; t=1246117839; x=1246981839; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fred@cisco.com; z=From:=20Fred=20Baker=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-06 |Sender:=20; bh=0ZVmmMS7XD2whJrBBbQVaCAHvC+AU9laMK/2/RE7EUE=; b=hK4yh0L7fQRO5WIJolfWyXBcae/afUcmblbg9E/13HKVG4sk7VkZzJzGoE 5+kW07TlINB5KRCtHKHSVs62PsqhoWFBUV87X/uQrT5ImzOKF9jmxT0FXDAY f4UsOWYLZg; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=fred@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: On Jun 26, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > I'd certainly want my CPE to have an option to switch off all > firewall behaviour. speaking commercially, I would not want to have to sell equipment with and without the firewall capability in separate packages either. I would want to be able to structure the network in a home even if I had a firewall at its edge. 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From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Sun Jun 28 09:50:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413793A69F7 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:50:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.202, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zsikxrE2IufJ for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020F73A6839 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MKxU4-000CiT-Cs for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:44:04 +0000 Received: from [17.254.13.22] (helo=mail-out3.apple.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MKxTs-000ChI-7X for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:43:58 +0000 Received: from relay14.apple.com (relay14.apple.com [17.128.113.52]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D75A677F188; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay14.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id 31A092808A; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:43:51 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807134-aa487bb0000021f3-52-4a479dc6e291 Received: from [17.151.84.73] (unknown [17.151.84.73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id E1E3D28059; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: IPv6 Operations Message-Id: <7D67F759-234E-44D7-8C7F-2D802B7C24B5@apple.com> From: james woodyatt To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Despr=E9s?= In-Reply-To: <3498D5E1-9975-4533-845A-5AAD45FC7D7E@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-06 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:43:50 -0700 References: <59336CC4-7B26-45A7-B712-847417BC4F52@apple.com> <3498D5E1-9975-4533-845A-5AAD45FC7D7E@free.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: On Jun 26, 2009, at 07:08, R=E9mi Despr=E9s wrote: > > After reading draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-05, I am =20 > convinced that a even lower security level is worth adding to the =20 > draft. > [...] > Thoughts? Let me begin by saying that I have no objection whatever to the =20 proposal of lowering the level of security provided by the "simple =20 security" function we're trying to document in this draft. Writing =20 here as an individual IETF contributor, i.e. without my editor hat, I =20= have always opposed this simple security function for a variety of =20 reasons that don't bear repeating in this thread. My preference is =20 for no default stateful filtering function in simple residential =20 gateways. All that said, however, I don't see how any "lower level of security" =20= than described here is compatible with the level recommended in RFC =20 4864, which was the starting point for this work. If we're going to =20 diverge from that baseline, then I'd expect that work would have to be =20= the subject of an rfc4864bis draft, or at least a draft marked as an =20 Update to RFC 4864, which this draft is most definitely not. At =20 least, not yet. 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If we're going to > diverge from that baseline, then I'd expect that work would have to be > the subject of an rfc4864bis draft, or at least a draft marked as an > Update to RFC 4864, which this draft is most definitely not. At least, > not yet. > > Shorter james: I have no technical objection to the proposal, but my > editorial judgment is that it isn't appropriate to make it an amendment > to this draft. 4864 is Informational and this draft is currently tagged with Intended status: Informational, so we don't have to be legalistic about requirements. I think this issue could be resolved by adding to this sentence in the Introduction: > In particular, extra care should be taken in designing the baseline > operating modes of unconfigured devices, since the security functions > of most devices will never be changed from their factory set default. For example The designers of such devices should nevertheless provide user settable options for users who wish to increase or decrease the level of protection. 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Period. Not some =20= > kind of halfway on. Sure. (I have nothing to say to the contrary.) Brian asks for a way to "switch off" firewall behaviors. I do APPROVE the proposal. My point is that, for completely UNMANAGED operation (turning an =20 option is a management action), CPEs should have the following =20 minimal IPv6 security : ***An incoming IPv6 packet MUST BE REJECTED if its destination port =20 is a well known or registered port that has not been authorized for =20= IPv4 port forwarding.*** This IPv6 rule is stateless and extremely simple to implement. In my understanding, it provides in IPv6 a protection that is =20 similar to that implicitly provided by IPv4 NATs and that, with =20 computer OSes as they are, is needed in some cases (as documented in =20 a previous mail). Comments on what this minimal protection would be missing for typical =20= unmanaged sites (or comments of support) would be constructive... and =20= very welcome. 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From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 29 09:22:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9219B28C0DC for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:22:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -109.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.002, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NUFOJXap3uk5 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB00628C187 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MLJXQ-0002c5-HH for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:17:00 +0000 Received: from [131.107.115.212] (helo=smtp.microsoft.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MLJXE-0002aK-Ay for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:16:53 +0000 Received: from TK5EX14MLTC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.79.180) by TK5-EXGWY-E801.partners.extranet.microsoft.com (10.251.56.50) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.99.4; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:16:47 -0700 Received: from TK5EX14MLTW652.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com (157.54.71.68) by TK5EX14MLTC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.79.180) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.0.601.1; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:16:47 -0700 Received: from TK5EX14MBXW653.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([169.254.3.224]) by TK5EX14MLTW652.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.71.68]) with mapi; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:16:46 -0700 From: Christian Huitema To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Despr=E9s?= CC: Brian E Carpenter , Gert Doering , James Woodyatt , v6ops Subject: RE: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-06 Thread-Topic: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-06 Thread-Index: AQHJ8HOCnqmXAW2x5kKL5ryXaizgZZBZY7CAgAAcaoCAAP1YAIAAJfmA///xfDCAAyEIAIAAEdsQ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:16:45 +0000 Message-ID: <6B55F0F93C3E9D45AF283313B8D342BA01D94A@TK5EX14MBXW653.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> References: <59336CC4-7B26-45A7-B712-847417BC4F52@apple.com> <3498D5E1-9975-4533-845A-5AAD45FC7D7E@free.fr> <20090626155029.GJ26102@Space.Net> <4A45C2CA.7070703@gmail.com> <6B55F0F93C3E9D45AF283313B8D342BA01D1BC@TK5EX14MBXW653.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> <8266915E-0A53-46EA-8688-F4B9464169D1@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <8266915E-0A53-46EA-8688-F4B9464169D1@free.fr> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: > ***An incoming IPv6 packet MUST BE REJECTED if its destination port > is a well known or registered port that has not been authorized for > IPv4 port forwarding.*** There is no agreement as to what a "well known registered port" means. Your= original e-mail mentioned all numbers below 49152. Operating system have v= arious definition for these random port number ranges. Windows XP, for exam= ple, would allocate random number in the 4096-65536 range. Your proposed ru= le would break many applications that use random port numbers for things li= ke instant messaging or VoIP. -- Christian Huitema From owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Mon Jun 29 10:38:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40DE3A6B6C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:38:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.715 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.715 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.317, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jy3eqi9hW8xd for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DDC3A6B53 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MLKk4-000COd-0K for v6ops-data0@psg.com; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:34:08 +0000 Received: from [212.27.42.6] (helo=smtp6-g21.free.fr) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MLKjp-000CLm-F0 for v6ops@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:34:00 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB0BE08185; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:33:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.13] (per92-10-88-166-221-144.fbx.proxad.net [88.166.221.144]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D9AE080C2; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:33:42 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <6B55F0F93C3E9D45AF283313B8D342BA01D94A@TK5EX14MBXW653.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> References: <59336CC4-7B26-45A7-B712-847417BC4F52@apple.com> <3498D5E1-9975-4533-845A-5AAD45FC7D7E@free.fr> <20090626155029.GJ26102@Space.Net> <4A45C2CA.7070703@gmail.com> <6B55F0F93C3E9D45AF283313B8D342BA01D1BC@TK5EX14MBXW653.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> <8266915E-0A53-46EA-8688-F4B9464169D1@free.fr> <6B55F0F93C3E9D45AF283313B8D342BA01D94A@TK5EX14MBXW653.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Cc: Brian E Carpenter , Gert Doering , James Woodyatt , v6ops Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Despr=E9s?= Subject: Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-06 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:33:41 +0200 To: Christian Huitema X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Sender: owner-v6ops@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: Le 29 juin 09 =E0 18:16, Christian Huitema a =E9crit : >> ***An incoming IPv6 packet MUST BE REJECTED if its destination port >> is a well known or registered port that has not been authorized for >> IPv4 port forwarding.*** > > There is no agreement as to what a "well known registered port" means. > Your original e-mail mentioned all numbers below 49152. I was relying what IANA says (ref. www.iana.org/assignments/port-=20 numbers), namely: - The Well Known Ports are those from 0 through 1023. - The Registered Ports are those from 1024 through 49151 > Operating system have various definition for these random port =20 > number ranges. Windows XP, for example, would allocate random =20 > number in the 4096-65536 range. Your proposed rule would break many =20= > applications that use random port numbers for things like instant =20 > messaging or VoIP. I see. This does defeat the proposal as is. Thanks for the info. 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From nils.becker@afs.org Tue Jun 30 11:31:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6183A67FF for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:31:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -91.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HELO_MISMATCH_BR=2.4, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vhxPYqxd8NKK for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abril.com.br (unknown [186.136.156.136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id ED7F128C3F3 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:31:42 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Shopper [$900/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090630183142.ED7F128C3F3@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Chase@mystery-ms.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Chase McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

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From jeisenbed@adam.com Tue Jun 30 14:11:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3980F3A6C60 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -73.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-73.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GoMkcQreLO-k for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 200-219-75-19.ggs6102.3g.brasiltelecom.net.br (200-219-75-19.ggs6102.3g.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.219.75.19]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A9CB3A6869 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:11:43 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery Secret Shopper [$700/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090630211144.1A9CB3A6869@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Mohamed@mystery-ms.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Mohamed McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From m-moriya@aa.cyberhome.ne.jp Tue Jun 30 17:02:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFBB3A6B4C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:02:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -63.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-63.791 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC=4.295, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_DYNAMIC_SPLIT_IP=3.493, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HELO_EQ_DYNAMIC=1.144, HELO_EQ_IP_ADDR=1.119, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ihxEHsMzRmT9 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 189.26.164.46.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br (189.26.164.46.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br [189.26.164.46]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D5FD3A687B for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:02:55 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Shopper [$700/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090701000256.5D5FD3A687B@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Hillary@mystery-ms.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Hillary McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From natan@akava.fi Tue Jun 30 17:40:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313593A680E for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:40:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -90.256 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-90.256 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0ikOqOMHTRRX for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alk.com (unknown [190.26.21.8]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 137B93A65A5 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:40:16 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Secret Shopper [$950/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090701004017.137B93A65A5@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Heidi@mystery-ms.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Heidi McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From m.hayamazvlc@amada.co.jp Tue Jun 30 18:17:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CD93A6814 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:17:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -86.426 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-86.426 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Udmt75ib7o4T for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agenda-asia.com (unknown [189.75.176.159]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 67D483A65A6 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:17:26 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery Shopper [$800/week] From: v6ops-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090701011727.67D483A65A6@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Jarrett@mystery-ms.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Jarrett McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105

From mgaddie@aipc.com Tue Jun 30 21:44:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-v6ops-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAC33A6F17 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:44:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -82.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-82.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP=1.398, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_CPE=0.5, HOST_EQ_CPE=0.979, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x0aBrB3TD0ju for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpe-173-171-22-111.tampabay.res.rr.com (cpe-173-171-22-111.tampabay.res.rr.com [173.171.22.111]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 34A0D3A6F18 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:43:41 -0700 (PDT) To: v6ops-archive@ietf.org Subject: Re: Secret Shopper [$950/week] From: v6ops-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090701044342.34A0D3A6F18@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.


Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Yolanda@mystery-ms.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Yolanda McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105