From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Thu Feb 02 09:21:15 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F4fKl-0005ci-Cz; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:21:15 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F4fKi-0005Y6-HK for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:21:12 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA06787 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacdcoavas09.cable.comcast.com ([208.17.33.58]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4fW1-0005M2-BP for softwires@ietf.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:32:57 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:20:31 -0500 Message-ID: <6EEEACD9D7F52940BEE26F5467C02C7304321C29@PACDCEXCMB01.cable.comcast.com> Thread-Topic: Very Last Call for agenda items Thread-Index: AcYoA9LyMrVoZ99lQtmufr2nJpS6BQ== From: "Durand, Alain" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2006 14:20:32.0412 (UTC) FILETIME=[D37215C0:01C62803] X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 69a74e02bbee44ab4f8eafdbcedd94a1 Subject: [Softwires] Very Last Call for agenda items X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0009783254==" Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0009783254== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62803.D32D772D" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62803.D32D772D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is the very last call for agenda items. If you haven't sent your slot request now, please do so before Friday 5pm EST. =20 - Alain, ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62803.D32D772D Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This = is the very=20 last call for agenda items. If you haven't sent your slot request=20 now,

please = do so before=20 Friday 5pm EST.

-=20 Alain,

------_=_NextPart_001_01C62803.D32D772D-- --===============0009783254== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires --===============0009783254==-- From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Thu Feb 02 09:42:18 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F4ff7-0006lp-T8; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:42:17 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F4ff6-0006lA-G4 for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:42:16 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA08323 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from paoakoavas09.cable.comcast.com ([208.17.35.58] helo=cable.comcast.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4fqU-00067Q-CW for softwires@ietf.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:54:02 -0500 Received: from ([10.52.116.10]) by paoakoavas09.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id KP-TDCH7.16756610; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:41:38 -0500 Received: from PACDCEXCMB01.cable.comcast.com ([10.20.10.113]) by PAOAKEXCRLY01.cable.comcast.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:41:37 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:41:37 -0500 Message-ID: <6EEEACD9D7F52940BEE26F5467C02C7304321C59@PACDCEXCMB01.cable.comcast.com> Thread-Topic: Meeting & Hotel informations Thread-Index: AcYoBsUzsqZJd6SDQFO55M1fl7A0pg== From: "Durand, Alain" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2006 14:41:37.0692 (UTC) FILETIME=[C59C7DC0:01C62806] X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2b2ad76aced9b1d558e34a970a85c027 Subject: [Softwires] Meeting & Hotel informations X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1537817119==" Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1537817119== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C62806.C568AA1D" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62806.C568AA1D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you to Pr Li for providing us the hotel information. =20 The meeting will be at CUHK (China University in Honk Kong) =20 If you do not want to book the hotel yourself and/or need help to do so, please contact the chairs directly. =20 More info on the meeting place and transport to/from the hotel will come shortly. =20 - Alain. =20 =20 =20 Recommended hotels are: ROYAL PARK HOTEL TEL: 26943898 FAX: 26013666 ADD: 8 Pak Hok Ting Street Shatin, N.T. http://www.royalpark.com.hk/ =20 REGAL RIVERSIDE HOTEL TEL: 26497878 FAX: 26374748 ADD: Tai Chung Kiu Road, Shatin, N.T. http://www.regalriverside.com/mmm/regalriverside/en_US_main.html =20 HARBOUR PLAZA METROPOLIS TEL: 31606888 FAX: 31606999 ADD: 7 Metropolis Drive Hung Hom, Kowloon http://www.harbour-plaza.com/hpme =20 REGAL KOWLOON HOTEL TEL: 23138638 FAX: 27390670 ADD: 71 Mody Road Tsimshatsui East Kowloon http://www.regalkowloon.com/ =20 THE KOWLOON HOTEL TEL: 27343874 FAX: 29292888 ADD: 19-21 Nathan Road Tsimshatsui Kowloon in addition, some information from the CUHK friend.=20 >Here is a list of hotels. You can search the web to get the web page >and check out their rates. I believe they are not too different (all roughly >3-4 star level). The main difference is location, hence convenience.=20 >The top two hotel are in Shatin. The first hotel is specially convenient >since it is close access to train to CUHK. The 2nd one is cheaper but >you may need to take a taxi to CUHK. > >These hotels are all preferred vendors for CUHK, so there is a CUHK rate=20 >if booked through our office. I don't know how much difference is between >the CUHK rate and the market rate. Our general office would not have the >time to do booking for you on an individual basis. But if you can give us a=20 >number of guests as a group, we can book for you. > >In fact, I called Royal Park Hotel. Their CUHK rate is HK$700+tax. For a >group of 25-30, they can give the rate HK$650+tax. If you can get all people=20 >to agree to stick with one hotel, I think this is the best route. (Note the >price may be a bit different if you don't quite have 25-30 people. Also the >tax is 13%). This is the most suitable and convenient hotel for you.=20 > >Please forward this to the organizers and act as soon as possible. > >Regards >Dah Ming best regards, xing ------_=_NextPart_001_01C62806.C568AA1D Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thank you to Pr Li for providing us the hotel=20 information.

The = meeting will be=20 at CUHK (China University in Honk Kong)

If you = do not want=20 to book the hotel yourself and/or need help to do = so,

please = contact the=20 chairs directly.

More = info on the=20 meeting place and transport to/from the hotel will come=20 shortly.

-=20 Alain.

Recommended hotels=20 are:

ROYAL PARK HOTEL
TEL:    =20 26943898
FAX:    26013666
ADD:   = ; 8=20 Pak Hok Ting Street
Shatin, N.T.
http://www.royalpark.com.hk/

REGAL RIVERSIDE HOTEL
TEL:    =20 26497878
FAX:    26374748
ADD:   = ; Tai=20 Chung Kiu=20 Road,
          &nbs= p;   =20 Shatin, N.T.
http://www.regalriverside.com/mmm/regalriverside/en_US_main.html=

HARBOUR PLAZA = METROPOLIS
TEL:    =20 31606888
FAX:    =20 31606999
ADD:     7 Metropolis=20 Drive
          &nbs= p;   =20 Hung Hom, Kowloon
http://www.harbour-plaza.com/hpme

REGAL KOWLOON HOTEL
TEL:    =20 23138638
FAX:    27390670
ADD:   = ; 71=20 Mody=20 Road
           = ;   =20 Tsimshatsui=20 East
           = ;   =20 Kowloon
http://www.regalkowloon.com/

THE KOWLOON=20 HOTEL
TEL:      27343874
FAX: &n= bsp;  =20 29292888
ADD:     19-21 Nathan=20 Road
           = ;   =20 Tsimshatsui

         =      =20 Kowloon

in addition, some information from the CUHK friend.=20

>Here is a list of hotels.  You can search the web = to get=20 the web page
>and check out their rates.  I believe they = are not=20 too different (all roughly
>3-4 star level). The main difference = is=20 location, hence convenience.
>The top two hotel are in Shatin. = The first=20 hotel is specially convenient
>since it is close access to train = to CUHK.=20 The 2nd one is cheaper but
>you may need to take a taxi to=20 CUHK.
>
>These hotels are all preferred vendors for CUHK, so = there=20 is a CUHK rate
>if booked through our office.  I don't = know how=20 much difference is between
>the CUHK rate and the market=20 rate.  Our general office would not have the
>time to do = booking=20 for you on an individual basis.  But if you can give us a=20
>number of guests as a group, we can book for = you.
>
>In=20 fact, I called Royal Park Hotel.  Their CUHK rate is = HK$700+tax. For=20 a
>group of 25-30, they can give the rate = HK$650+tax.  If you=20 can get all people
>to agree to stick with one hotel, I think = this is the=20 best route. (Note the
>price may be a bit different if you don't = quite=20 have 25-30 people.  Also the
>tax is 13%). This is the = most=20 suitable and convenient hotel for you.
>
>Please forward = this to=20 the organizers and act as soon as = possible.
>
>Regards
>Dah=20 Ming

best regards,

xing

------_=_NextPart_001_01C62806.C568AA1D-- --===============1537817119== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires --===============1537817119==-- From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Thu Feb 02 11:46:32 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F4hbM-0001QH-NQ; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:46:32 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F4hbL-0001PT-SK for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:46:31 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA19629 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from laposte.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr ([192.44.77.17]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4hmX-0002hv-LK for softwires@ietf.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:58:07 -0500 Received: from l2.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (l2.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr [192.44.77.4]) by laposte.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (8.11.6p2/8.11.6/2003.04.01) with ESMTP id k12GjmL27565; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:45:48 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.11] (ARennes-353-1-7-203.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.199.14.203]) (authenticated bits=0) by l2.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k12GjmEX017885 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:45:49 +0100 Message-ID: <43E2373D.7070309@enst-bretagne.fr> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 17:45:49 +0100 From: Laurent Toutain User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Durand, Alain" Subject: Re: [Softwires] Very Last Call for agenda items References: <6EEEACD9D7F52940BEE26F5467C02C7304321C29@PACDCEXCMB01.cable.comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <6EEEACD9D7F52940BEE26F5467C02C7304321C29@PACDCEXCMB01.cable.comcast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) at enst-bretagne.fr X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: softwires@ietf.org X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org I would like to have a slot to present and discuss the draft. Laurent Durand, Alain wrote: > This is the very last call for agenda items. If you haven't sent your > slot request now, > please do so before Friday 5pm EST. > > - Alain, > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Softwires mailing list >Softwires@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires > > _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Fri Feb 03 08:43:00 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F51DI-0001jo-HY; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:43:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F51DD-0001j6-NJ for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:43:00 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA28091 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from laposte.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr ([192.44.77.17]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F51Od-00027f-8V for softwires@ietf.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:54:44 -0500 Received: from l2.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (l2.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr [192.44.77.4]) by laposte.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (8.11.6p2/8.11.6/2003.04.01) with ESMTP id k13Dfte10991; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:41:55 +0100 Received: from [192.44.77.162] (dhcpe62 [192.44.77.162]) (authenticated bits=0) by l2.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k13DfsW2019646 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:41:55 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <06F2FF70-FC38-4F79-BF79-49173C2503CE@enst-bretagne.fr> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bruno STEVANT Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:42:05 +0100 To: radiusext@ops.ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) at enst-bretagne.fr X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: softwires@ietf.org, Laurent Toutain Subject: [Softwires] Proposal for extension of Radius Accounting X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Good day all We at Point6 are working in the Softwires WG on a solution for IPv6 access for Home Networks, as described in draft-toutain-softwire- point6box-00.txt In this solution we use L2TP/PPP for IPv6 tunneling. Access AAA parameters are managed with Radius. We found an issue with current FreeBSD PPP implementation on Radius accounting : Attributes Acct-{Input,Output}-Octets and Acct-{Input,Output}-Packets are only based on accounting informations from IPCP. Since our solution only use IPV6CP, we have to modify the code in PPP to send IPV6CP accounting information in these Radius attributes. The basic solution may be just to add IPCP and IPV6CP values and to transmit these sums as value for these attributes. Another solution may also to have separate accounting attributes for IPv4 and IPv6. We think this may be only relevant for packets (as it is done in system MIBs for instance). Our proposal is to have two more attributes for Radius accounting : Acct-IPv6-Input-Packets and Acct-IPv6-Output-Packets. The rational of this proposal is to give operators who deploy dual stack access solution some accounting information about IPv6/IPv4 usage ratio. We ask the Radext WG to take position on this proposal. Some inputs may also come from the Softwires WG. Regards, -- Bruno STEVANT - Point6 _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Sun Feb 05 16:00:45 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F5r01-00032L-F3; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:00:45 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F5qzt-00030f-3z for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:00:43 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA12365 for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2006 15:58:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from laposte.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr ([192.44.77.17]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F5rBb-0007gw-D2 for softwires@ietf.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:12:44 -0500 Received: from givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr [192.44.77.29]) by laposte.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (8.11.6p2/8.11.6/2003.04.01) with ESMTP id k15Kxcg08555; Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:59:38 +0100 Received: from givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (localhost.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr [127.0.0.1]) by givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k15KxcuU083627; Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:59:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dupont@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr) Message-Id: <200602052059.k15KxcuU083627@givry.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr> From: Francis Dupont To: Pekka Savola Subject: Re: [Softwires] draft-toutain-softwire-point6box-00.txt In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:00:01 +0200. Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 21:59:38 +0100 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) at enst-bretagne.fr X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 52f7a77164458f8c7b36b66787c853da Cc: softwires@ietf.org X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org In your previous mail you wrote: => it seems I forgot to post these answers... Here are my comments on it. Philosophical: - it might be useful to describe (e.g., in an appendix) the most important design choices you made; e.g., why L2TP? would some other mechanism have been acceptable as well, or did you require some specific L2TP features? => there were two main reasons to use L2TP: the first one was we already had experiences with L2TP over GSM/GPRS environments, the second was L2TP was heavily used here by ADSL ISPs so it should be easily accepted. - while the approach could be workable, I'm having difficulty seeing practical deployment. I doubt many users want to add (yet another) box to their network for the sole purpose of IPv6. Many users would probably be happy by having a host act as a v6 router. That wouldn't require getting and installing a new box that's going to be retired (hopefully) as soon as possible in any case, while the prefix could still be stable. => in the softwire problem statement, hubs & spokes section, you can see three cases. The point6box is usually the third case but can be the first when you can replace the HGW. The associated PE6 supports the case 2 too. So even if I agree a native and integrated IPv6 is the best solution your comment is more about the whole softwire hubs & spokes solution than the point6box one... 4) Security considerations section is inadequate. You should analyze how/whether the manner in which you use the existing protocols exposes you to security issues (for example, you don't seem to have any server authentication, I guess someone on the wire could steal the user credentials?) => you can do server authentication with CHAP. The idea is the existing protocols already provide all the security tools you can need so the point6box document is neutral. Of course you can misuse the security features but unfortunately this can't be fixed by an IETF document... [ID.delegated] "RADIUS Delegated-IPv6-Prefix Attribute". => oops, I believed this one was fixed. [RFC4057] Bound, J., "IPv6 Enterprise Network Scenarios", RFC 4057, June 2005. ==> not referred to in the draft, can be removed? (are there others like this?) => it is the only one reported by xml2rfc. o deploy the IPv6 in a private network. A company specialized in digital signages has to install display devices in hotels, shops and supermarkets. ==>"signages" ? => try google on it (:-)! Regards Francis.Dupont@point6.net _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Wed Feb 08 05:39:16 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F6mjE-0000SX-6Q; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 05:39:16 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F6mjD-0000Ro-9C for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 05:39:15 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA08851 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 05:37:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.consulintel.es ([213.172.48.142] helo=consulintel.es) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6mvP-0006wy-Q3 for softwires@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 05:51:53 -0500 Received: from [10.10.10.11] by consulintel.es (MDaemon.PRO.v8.0.1.R) with ESMTP id md50001613653.msg for ; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:37:42 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:38:04 +0100 From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ To: "softwires@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Hotel in HK for Interim meeting Thread-Index: AcYsm72m/CGsKJiOEdqx/QANky3PwA== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-HashCash: 1:20:060208:softwires@ietf.org::55Ef+hXI+vRZBPQY:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000002rN/ X-MDRemoteIP: 217.126.187.160 X-Return-Path: jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: softwires@ietf.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail.consulintel.es X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.7 required=4.8 tests=BAYES_00, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=3.0.4 X-Spam-Processed: consulintel.es, Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:37:42 +0100 X-MDAV-Processed: consulintel.es, Wed, 08 Feb 2006 11:37:43 +0100 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Softwires] Hotel in HK for Interim meeting X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jordi.palet@consulintel.es List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Hi all, In a previous message last week, there was a list of hotels, with a special recommendation for the RoyalPark. There has been made a room blocking there which a special price of 650HK$ (half of the regular price), but this is only valid if you register until 10th February. Unfortunately the message with the attachment of the form that you need to fill and send by fax or email to the hotel for your reservation seems that has not reached the list. So I've posted this document at: http://www.ipv6tf.org/royalpark.pdf It will be only available there until end of this week, as a temporary placeholder. I've reserved myself just filling the 3rd page and sending it scanned to Jacqueline Chan at the email indicated in the document, and in a few hours got my confirmation back. Regards, Jordi ********************************************** The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit Slides available at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Wed Feb 08 07:47:09 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F6oiz-0002dt-G3; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 07:47:09 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F6oix-0002cd-CT for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 07:47:07 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA18331 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 07:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([63.240.77.83]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6ovX-0002ne-8v for softwires@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:00:08 -0500 Received: from s73602 (c-24-1-104-165.hsd1.tx.comcast.net[24.1.104.165]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006020812465401300nupbte>; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 12:46:54 +0000 Message-ID: <0e5801c62cad$8794ad30$3703a8c0@china.huawei.com> From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: References: Subject: Re: [Softwires] Hotel in HK for Interim meeting Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 06:45:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b4a0a5f5992e2a4954405484e7717d8c Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org I also observed this process to work, just as well as it did for Jordi. The only question I had was whether the limosine service to the hotel was recommended, or whether there's a train that runs from the airport right past the hotel, or something similar. Any ideas? Thanks, Spencer > Hi all, > > In a previous message last week, there was a list of hotels, with a > special > recommendation for the RoyalPark. > > There has been made a room blocking there which a special price of 650HK$ > (half of the regular price), but this is only valid if you register until > 10th February. > > Unfortunately the message with the attachment of the form that you need to > fill and send by fax or email to the hotel for your reservation seems that > has not reached the list. > > So I've posted this document at: > http://www.ipv6tf.org/royalpark.pdf > > It will be only available there until end of this week, as a temporary > placeholder. > > I've reserved myself just filling the 3rd page and sending it scanned to > Jacqueline Chan at the email indicated in the document, and in a few hours > got my confirmation back. > > Regards, > Jordi > > > > > > > ********************************************** > The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org > > Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit > Slides available at: > http://www.ipv6-es.com > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or > confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the > individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware > that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this > information, including attached files, is prohibited. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Softwires mailing list > Softwires@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires > _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Wed Feb 08 08:06:29 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F6p1h-0003JE-JT; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:06:29 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F6p1f-0003IM-R0 for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:06:27 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA20301 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 08:04:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200602081304.IAA20301@ietf.org> Received: from csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn ([166.111.68.226]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F6pE7-0003hc-U5 for softwires@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:19:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 2001 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2006 13:31:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cy) (yong@219.243.215.193) by csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn with SMTP; 8 Feb 2006 13:31:52 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:07:13 +0800 From: "Yong" To: "Spencer Dawkins" , "softwires@ietf.org" Subject: Re: Re: [Softwires] Hotel in HK for Interim meeting X-mailer: Foxmail 5.0 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5011df3e2a27abcc044eaa15befcaa87 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Hongkong has well-developed train/metro system. You can get to RoyalPark hotel from airport or meeting place by metro/train. Blow is a map of metro, where RoyalPark is at Shatin Station on the middle right of the map (on the line of KCR east rail). Meeting place will be at University station, which is two stops away from Shatin Station. http://www.johomaps.com/as/hongkong/hkmetro_ch.html ======= 2006-02-08 20:45:23 You wrote ======= >I also observed this process to work, just as well as it did for Jordi. > >The only question I had was whether the limosine service to the hotel was >recommended, or whether there's a train that runs from the airport right >past the hotel, or something similar. Any ideas? > >Thanks, > >Spencer > > >> Hi all, >> >> In a previous message last week, there was a list of hotels, with a >> special >> recommendation for the RoyalPark. >> >> There has been made a room blocking there which a special price of 650HK$ >> (half of the regular price), but this is only valid if you register until >> 10th February. >> >> Unfortunately the message with the attachment of the form that you need to >> fill and send by fax or email to the hotel for your reservation seems that >> has not reached the list. >> >> So I've posted this document at: >> http://www.ipv6tf.org/royalpark.pdf >> >> It will be only available there until end of this week, as a temporary >> placeholder. >> >> I've reserved myself just filling the 3rd page and sending it scanned to >> Jacqueline Chan at the email indicated in the document, and in a few hours >> got my confirmation back. >> >> Regards, >> Jordi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ********************************************** >> The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org >> >> Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit >> Slides available at: >> http://www.ipv6-es.com >> >> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or >> confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the >> individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware >> that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this >> information, including attached files, is prohibited. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Softwires mailing list >> Softwires@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Softwires mailing list >Softwires@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires > > ======================================= Best regards, 20:54:47 2006-02-08 ******************************************************** * Yong Cui * * Ph.D, Department of Computer Science & Technology * * Tsinghua University, Beijing, P.R.China(100084) * * Tel: (8610)-62795818-6859 * * Email: yong@csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn * ******************************************************** _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Wed Feb 08 23:49:30 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F73kI-0000pO-B9; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:49:30 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F73kG-0000pJ-Bt for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:49:28 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA14807 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 23:47:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com ([171.68.10.86]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F73wy-0006wp-No for softwires@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:02:38 -0500 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2006 20:49:16 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.02,99,1139212800"; d="scan'208"; a="1774783528:sNHT35503416" Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k194nFQJ009354; Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:49:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.174]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:49:15 -0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([171.68.225.134]) by xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:49:11 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004 Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 22:49:11 -0600 From: David Ward To: "softwires@ietf.org" , "Durand, Alain" , David Ward Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Logistics and Agenda for Softwires Interim Meeting Feb 23-24, 2006 Hong Kong Thread-Index: AcYtNCsFaV/oapknEdqUkQAKlcR7kg== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2006 04:49:11.0550 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B59E9E0:01C62D34] X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Scan-Signature: 2409bba43e9c8d580670fda8b695204a Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: [Softwires] Logistics and Agenda for Softwires Interim Meeting Feb 23-24, 2006 Hong Kong X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org All - Information on the interim meeting to be held on Feb 23-24,2006 in Hong Kong can be found on the WG website. Here is a direct pointer: http://bgp.nu/~dward/softwires/InterimMeetingFeb23-241006HongKong.htm Please review the agenda, logistics information and Criteria for Solution Set selection. The last item is a draft following discussions that Alain, Mark and myself have had over the last weeks. It is an effort to guide presenters on what we expect to see/hear and a way for the WG to select candidate solutions. What you will find is a separation of technical and non-technical items that should be addressed. The technical items are derived from the MUST requirements from the problem statement and the non-technical items are rather generic questions that fall into the categories of concern that we have discussed as a WG. We look forward to working w/ the all participants in Hong Kong. For all those that cannot make the meeting, we will post notes to the list and review in Dallas. Many thanks to folks at CUHK and CERNET for all their help in hosting the meeting and providing the logistical legwork!!! -Dward and Alain _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Thu Feb 09 11:08:30 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F7ELO-00031y-MQ; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:08:30 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F7ELM-0002z7-58 for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:08:28 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA04889 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 11:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ex.hexago.com ([209.71.226.4]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7EXx-0005Nl-K5 for softwires@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:21:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (retro.hexago.com [209.71.226.5]) by ex.hexago.com ( hexago/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k19G4pPn035354 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 11:04:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jean-francois.tremblay@hexago.com) Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:07:56 -0500 From: JF Tremblay To: softwires@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Softwires] Logistics and Agenda for Softwires Interim Meeting Feb 23-24, 2006 Hong Kong Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.4 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org --On Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:49 PM -0600 David Ward wrote: > Please review the agenda, logistics information and Criteria for > Solution Set selection. The last item is a draft following > discussions that Alain, Mark and myself have had over the last weeks. > It is an effort to guide presenters on what we expect to see/hear and > a way for the WG to select candidate solutions. What you will find is > a separation of technical and non-technical items that should be > addressed. The technical items are derived from the MUST requirements > from the problem statement and the non-technical items are rather > generic questions that fall into the categories of concern that we > have discussed as a WG. Thanks David. A few questions/comments on the criteria page, hub&spokes section: a) What is 4-c, PDU? Does this refer to section 4.6 on the IPsec profile? b) In the introduction of the draft, time-to-market is mentioned as a significant criteria for the chosen protocol. Shouldn't this be discussed, maybe as a non-tech criteria? c) Item 7), L2/L3 connectivity. What does this refer to in the draft? To my understanding, L2 encapsulation was a nice-to-have (draft section 4.8). /JFT _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Mon Feb 13 13:40:47 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F8icx-0005gt-0b; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:40:47 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F8icv-0005gl-LJ for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:40:45 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA13978 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from paoakoavas09.cable.comcast.com ([208.17.35.58] helo=cable.comcast.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8iqZ-0001lG-W2 for softwires@ietf.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:54:53 -0500 Received: from ([10.20.9.174]) by paoakoavas09.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id KP-TDCH7.17018826; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:40:20 -0500 Received: from PACDCEXCMB01.cable.comcast.com ([10.20.10.113]) by PACDCEXCSMTP02.cable.comcast.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:40:19 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:40:19 -0500 Message-ID: <6EEEACD9D7F52940BEE26F5467C02C730458E088@PACDCEXCMB01.cable.comcast.com> Thread-Topic: Interim presentation slides Thread-Index: AcYwzPBPt32Y6/BsSVa4JjC7NEnHMA== From: "Durand, Alain" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2006 18:40:19.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0E726A0:01C630CC] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 538aad3a3c4f01d8b6a6477ca4248793 Cc: Subject: [Softwires] Interim presentation slides X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2022356257==" Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2022356257== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C630CC.F0840BBD" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C630CC.F0840BBD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, =20 We would like to request presenters at the Interim meeting to sent in their slides by Friday, 2/17, 5pm EST. =20 Please send them to David & me directly, not to the list. =20 - David & Alain, wg chairs. =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C630CC.F0840BBD Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=20 - David & Alain, wg chairs.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C630CC.F0840BBD-- --===============2022356257== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires --===============2022356257==-- From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Wed Feb 15 05:08:09 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F9JZx-0005oX-FO; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:08:09 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1F9JZv-0005oS-E9 for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:08:07 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA25742 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:06:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from laposte.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr ([192.44.77.17]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F9Jnp-0003H6-Qa for softwires@ietf.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 05:22:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by laposte.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/2004.10.03) with ESMTP id k1FA7psh000966 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:07:51 +0100 Received: from d1.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (d1.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr [192.44.77.10]) by laposte.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/2004.09.01) with ESMTP id k1FA7n8a000958 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:07:49 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:2001:660:7301:3728:20d:93ff:fe36:7168] ([IPv6:2001:660:7301:3728:20d:93ff:fe36:7168]) (authenticated bits=0) by d1.rennes.enst-bretagne.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1FA7mU0028724 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:07:49 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <06F2FF70-FC38-4F79-BF79-49173C2503CE@enst-bretagne.fr> References: <06F2FF70-FC38-4F79-BF79-49173C2503CE@enst-bretagne.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8C99A160-A1B1-408D-949D-8E244F57F193@enst-bretagne.fr> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Bruno STEVANT Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:08:15 +0100 To: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at enst-bretagne.fr X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f4c2cf0bccc868e4cc88dace71fb3f44 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Softwires] Re: Proposal for extension of Radius Accounting X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: softwires-bounces@ietf.org Hi all, I published a draft explaining the problem : http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stevant-softwire-=20 accounting-00.txt I wont be present at the Interim. Laurent Toutain will do the =20 statement for me. Have fun in Hong-Kong :) Le 3 f=E9vr. 06 =E0 14:42, Bruno STEVANT a =E9crit : > Good day all > > We at Point6 are working in the Softwires WG on a solution for IPv6 =20= > access for Home Networks, as described in draft-toutain-softwire-=20 > point6box-00.txt > In this solution we use L2TP/PPP for IPv6 tunneling. Access AAA =20 > parameters are managed with Radius. > > We found an issue with current FreeBSD PPP implementation on Radius =20= > accounting : > Attributes Acct-{Input,Output}-Octets and Acct-{Input,Output}-=20 > Packets are only based on accounting informations from IPCP. Since =20 > our solution only use IPV6CP, we have to modify the code in PPP to =20 > send IPV6CP accounting information in these Radius attributes. > > The basic solution may be just to add IPCP and IPV6CP values and to =20= > transmit these sums as value for these attributes. > Another solution may also to have separate accounting attributes =20 > for IPv4 and IPv6. We think this may be only relevant for packets =20 > (as it is done in system MIBs for instance). Our proposal is to =20 > have two more attributes for Radius accounting : Acct-IPv6-Input-=20 > Packets and Acct-IPv6-Output-Packets. > > The rational of this proposal is to give operators who deploy dual =20 > stack access solution some accounting information about IPv6/IPv4 =20 > usage ratio. > We ask the Radext WG to take position on this proposal. Some inputs =20= > may also come from the Softwires WG. > > Regards, > --=20 > Bruno STEVANT - Point6 > > _______________________________________________ > Softwires mailing list > Softwires@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires --=20 Bruno STEVANT - Point6 _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires From softwires-bounces@ietf.org Fri Feb 17 17:10:23 2006 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1FADnz-00055a-6I; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:10:23 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1FADny-00055N-Go for softwires@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:10:22 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA18328 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:08:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacdcoavas10.cable.comcast.com ([208.17.33.59]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAE2Q-0005WB-34 for softwires@ietf.org; 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