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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8B49A.3A87CA00-- From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Fri May 16 12:45:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAF828C268; Fri, 16 May 2008 12:45:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9163A68A0; Fri, 16 May 2008 12:45:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZWgsqqmn0A2X; Fri, 16 May 2008 12:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (gw.openss7.com [206.75.119.236]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A4E3A6B94; Fri, 16 May 2008 12:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:7E7XpkyHK3/VzdDN8KW0B27QLck3e3Ra@ns5.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.5]) by gw.openss7.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4GJiopG031920; Fri, 16 May 2008 13:44:50 -0600 Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:ULR/9kX4Hny717m2p64PRVqlxoKV7epO@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4GJioT8024342; Fri, 16 May 2008 13:44:50 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4GJilGe024341; Fri, 16 May 2008 13:44:47 -0600 Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:44:47 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: RFC Errata System Message-ID: <20080516194447.GA24123@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: RFC Errata System , kmorneau@cisco.com, rdantu@netrake.com, greg@signatustechnologies.com, jheitz@lucent.com, iesg@iesg.org, ah@TR-Sys.de, sigtran@ietf.org References: <200805161634.m4GGYbkT005377@boreas.isi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805161634.m4GGYbkT005377@boreas.isi.edu> Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: ah@TR-Sys.de, greg@signatustechnologies.com, kmorneau@cisco.com, iesg@iesg.org, jheitz@lucent.com, rdantu@netrake.com, sigtran@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Sigtran] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3331 (1425) X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org RFC, There is nothing the matter with the diagram or text. All that this change would accomplish would be making the description for the Signalling Data Terminal Identifier field be the same as the description for the Signalling Data Link Identifier field, which would then result in two descriptions for SDLI and none for SDTI. --brian On Fri, 16 May 2008, RFC Errata System wrote: > = > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3331, > "Signaling System 7 (SS7) Message Transfer Part 2 (MTP2) - User Adaptatio= n Layer". > = > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.RFC-Editor.ORG/errata_search.php?rfc=3D3331&eid=3D1425 > = > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: Alfred Hoenes > = > Section: 3.3.4.1,p.53 > = > Original Text > ------------- > a) > | The SDT Identifier is a 32-bit unsigned value which may only be > significant to 12 or 14 bits depending on the SS7 variant which is > supported by the MTP Level 3 at the ASP. Insignificant SDT > Identifier bits are coded 0. > = > b) > | The SDL Identifier is a 32-bit unsigned value which may only be > significant to 12 or 14 bits depending on the SS7 variant which > is supported by the MTP Level 3 at the ASP. Insignificant SDLI > bits are coded 0. > = > = > Corrected Text > -------------- > a) > | The SDT Identifier is a 16-bit unsigned value which may only be > significant to 12 or 14 bits depending on the SS7 variant which is > supported by the MTP Level 3 at the ASP. Insignificant SDT > Identifier bits are coded 0. > = > b) > | The SDL Identifier is a 16-bit unsigned value which may only be > significant to 12 or 14 bits depending on the SS7 variant which > is supported by the MTP Level 3 at the ASP. Insignificant SDLI > bits are coded 0. > = > = > Notes > ----- > In both cases, the field width "32-bit" in the text does not match > the parameter breakdown in the immediately preceding artwork. > The above corrections are based on the assumption that the figures > are correct and the text is in error. > = > Instructions: > ------------- > This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. = > = > -------------------------------------- > RFC3331 (draft-ietf-sigtran-m2ua-15) > -------------------------------------- > Title : Signaling System 7 (SS7) Message Transfer Part 2 (M= TP2) - User Adaptation Layer > Publication Date : September 2002 > Author(s) : K. Morneault, R. Dantu, G. Sidebottom, B. Bidulock,= J. Heitz > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Legacy > Area : Legacy > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG -- = Brian F. G. Bidulock =A6 The reasonable man adapts himself to the =A6 bidulock@openss7.org =A6 world; the unreasonable one persists in =A6 http://www.openss7.org/ =A6 trying to adapt the world to himself. =A6 =A6 Therefore all progress depends on the =A6 =A6 unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw =A6 _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Fri May 16 12:49:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5A428C274; Fri, 16 May 2008 12:49:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A8F28C273; Fri, 16 May 2008 12:49:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NtJ+9t4FIyVZ; Fri, 16 May 2008 12:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (gw.openss7.com [206.75.119.236]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B54B28C272; Fri, 16 May 2008 12:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:eog4NMtNus4gO4dA60Hr4nvKkaJRboo5@ns5.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.5]) by gw.openss7.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4GJmaXY031941; Fri, 16 May 2008 13:48:36 -0600 Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:FlNTGSr4k3DuItODpSFdwORoUIhod+Ch@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4GJmZag024405; Fri, 16 May 2008 13:48:35 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4GJmZrd024404; Fri, 16 May 2008 13:48:35 -0600 Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:48:35 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: RFC Errata System Message-ID: <20080516194835.GB24123@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: RFC Errata System , kmorneau@cisco.com, rdantu@netrake.com, greg@signatustechnologies.com, jheitz@lucent.com, iesg@iesg.org, ah@TR-Sys.de, sigtran@ietf.org References: <200805161642.m4GGgqse009239@boreas.isi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805161642.m4GGgqse009239@boreas.isi.edu> Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: ah@TR-Sys.de, greg@signatustechnologies.com, kmorneau@cisco.com, iesg@iesg.org, jheitz@lucent.com, rdantu@netrake.com, sigtran@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Sigtran] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3331 (1426) X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org RFC, Yes, it is repeated, but the repetition is correct. Please stop sending these. --brian On Fri, 16 May 2008, RFC Errata System wrote: > = > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3331, > "Signaling System 7 (SS7) Message Transfer Part 2 (MTP2) - User Adaptatio= n Layer". > = > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.RFC-Editor.ORG/errata_search.php?rfc=3D3331&eid=3D1426 > = > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: Alfred Hoenes > = > Section: 3.3.2.6,p.35 > = > Original Text > ------------- > The sending node defines the Heartbeat Data field contents. It may > include a Heartbeat Sequence Number and/or time stamp, or other > implementation specific details. > = > The receiver of a Heartbeat message does not process this field as it > is only of significance to the sender. The receiver echoes the > content of the Heartbeat Data in a BEAT ACK message. > = > = > Corrected Text > -------------- > The receiver of a Heartbeat message echoes the content of the > Heartbeat Data field contained therein without further processing > in the Heartbeat Data field of the Heartbeat Ack message. > = > = > Notes > ----- > Apparently, the quoted text has been copied from 3.3.2.5 without > performing the appropriate rewording to accommodate the context > of 3.3.2.6 (BEAT ACK message). > = > Instructions: > ------------- > This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. = > = > -------------------------------------- > RFC3331 (draft-ietf-sigtran-m2ua-15) > -------------------------------------- > Title : Signaling System 7 (SS7) Message Transfer Part 2 (M= TP2) - User Adaptation Layer > Publication Date : September 2002 > Author(s) : K. Morneault, R. Dantu, G. Sidebottom, B. Bidulock,= J. Heitz > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Legacy > Area : Legacy > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG -- = Brian F. G. Bidulock =A6 The reasonable man adapts himself to the =A6 bidulock@openss7.org =A6 world; the unreasonable one persists in =A6 http://www.openss7.org/ =A6 trying to adapt the world to himself. =A6 =A6 Therefore all progress depends on the =A6 =A6 unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw =A6 _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Fri May 16 13:50:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4700628C2C7; Fri, 16 May 2008 13:50:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256FE28C2C7; Fri, 16 May 2008 13:50:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x4m4edhKDElw; Fri, 16 May 2008 13:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (gw.openss7.com [206.75.119.236]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EA728C2B0; Fri, 16 May 2008 13:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:+pdv7CG9hZcmaB5JzB2i1n9i8dzOOlVJ@ns5.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.5]) by gw.openss7.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4GKoVcB032206; Fri, 16 May 2008 14:50:31 -0600 Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:JT/6mXIR2I5yQEpiMOXGLcT01o+NBdx8@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4GKoVEJ025444; Fri, 16 May 2008 14:50:31 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4GKoV9V025443; Fri, 16 May 2008 14:50:31 -0600 Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:50:31 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Alfred =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6nes?= Message-ID: <20080516205031.GA25376@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Alfred =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6nes?= , kmorneau@cisco.com, rdantu@netrake.com, greg@signatustechnologies.com, jheitz@lucent.com, iesg@iesg.org, sigtran@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org References: <20080516194447.GA24123@openss7.org> <200805162010.WAA06666@TR-Sys.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805162010.WAA06666@TR-Sys.de> Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: greg@signatustechnologies.com, kmorneau@cisco.com, iesg@iesg.org, jheitz@lucent.com, rdantu@netrake.com, sigtran@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: Re: [Sigtran] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3331 (1425) X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Alfred, Sorry, but the change is still not required. The SDT Identifier field is 32-bits (4 octets as indicated by the parameter length), but the value within that field only occupies 16 its of which only 12-14 bits are significant. No change to the document is necessary. --brian Alfred H=F6nes wrote: (Fri, 16 May 2008 22:10:19) > > RFC, > > = > > There is nothing the matter with the diagram or text. > > = > > All that this change would accomplish would be making the description > > for the Signalling Data Terminal Identifier field be the same as the > > description for the Signalling Data Link Identifier field, which would > > then result in two descriptions for SDLI and none for SDTI. > > = > > --brian > = > Brian, > Sorry, I do not understand the conclusions above. > = > To avoid the replication of ensuant mail exchanges and for > the ease of prospective readers, two parallel corrections > have been requested in one Errata Note, tagged a) and b), > for SDTI and SDLI text, respectively, and both changing > "32-bit" to "16-bit" to bring the text in alignment with > the figures showing 16-bit field width. > This 'parallel correction' style is well established. > = > Please reconsider your statement after closely re-reading > the Errata Note. Thanks. > = > Alfred. > = > > = > > On Fri, 16 May 2008, RFC Errata System wrote: > > = > >> = > >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3331, > >> "Signaling System 7 (SS7) Message Transfer Part 2 (MTP2) - User Adapta= tion Layer". > >> = > >> -------------------------------------- > >> You may review the report below and at: > >> http://www.RFC-Editor.ORG/errata_search.php?rfc=3D3331&eid=3D1425 > >> = > >> -------------------------------------- > >> Type: Technical > >> Reported by: Alfred Hoenes > >> = > >> Section: 3.3.4.1,p.53 > >> = > >> Original Text > >> ------------- > >> a) > >> | The SDT Identifier is a 32-bit unsigned value which may only be > >> significant to 12 or 14 bits depending on the SS7 variant which = is > >> supported by the MTP Level 3 at the ASP. Insignificant SDT > >> Identifier bits are coded 0. > >> = > >> b) > >> | The SDL Identifier is a 32-bit unsigned value which may only be > >> significant to 12 or 14 bits depending on the SS7 variant which > >> is supported by the MTP Level 3 at the ASP. Insignificant SDLI > >> bits are coded 0. > >> = > >> = > >> Corrected Text > >> -------------- > >> a) > >> | The SDT Identifier is a 16-bit unsigned value which may only be > >> significant to 12 or 14 bits depending on the SS7 variant which = is > >> supported by the MTP Level 3 at the ASP. Insignificant SDT > >> Identifier bits are coded 0. > >> = > >> b) > >> | The SDL Identifier is a 16-bit unsigned value which may only be > >> significant to 12 or 14 bits depending on the SS7 variant which > >> is supported by the MTP Level 3 at the ASP. Insignificant SDLI > >> bits are coded 0. > >> = > >> = > >> Notes > >> ----- > >> In both cases, the field width "32-bit" in the text does not match > >> the parameter breakdown in the immediately preceding artwork. > >> The above corrections are based on the assumption that the figures > >> are correct and the text is in error. > >> = > >> Instructions: > >> ------------- > >> This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > >> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > >> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > >> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. = > >> = > >> -------------------------------------- > >> RFC3331 (draft-ietf-sigtran-m2ua-15) > >> -------------------------------------- > >> Title : Signaling System 7 (SS7) Message Transfer Part 2= (MTP2) - User Adaptation Layer > >> Publication Date : September 2002 > >> Author(s) : K. Morneault, R. Dantu, G. Sidebottom, B. Bidulo= ck, J. Heitz > >> Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > >> Source : Legacy > >> Area : Legacy > >> Stream : IETF > >> Verifying Party : IESG > > = > > -- = > > Brian F. G. Bidulock | The reasonable man adapts himself to the | > > bidulock@openss7.org | world; the unreasonable one persists in | > > http://www.openss7.org/ | trying to adapt the world to himself. | > > | Therefore all progress depends on the | > > | unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw | > > = -- = Brian F. G. Bidulock bidulock@openss7.org http://www.openss7.org/ _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Fri May 16 17:26:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56D93A69C0; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:26:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE5C3A69C0; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:26:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1Swbsd4T54lz; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (gw.openss7.com [206.75.119.236]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C011C3A69AA; Fri, 16 May 2008 17:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:6H0lsI0NIhzVzx+9qjrXDqmDS61b1a0e@ns5.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.5]) by gw.openss7.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4H0PqUb000800; Fri, 16 May 2008 18:25:52 -0600 Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:C/gi7rbaIeU5VYqBU4SPsKPTtX6dF9Bt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4H0PqOh028428; Fri, 16 May 2008 18:25:52 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4H0PlQL028427; Fri, 16 May 2008 18:25:47 -0600 Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:25:47 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Alfred =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6nes?= Message-ID: <20080517002547.GA28193@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Alfred =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6nes?= , kmorneau@cisco.com, rdantu@netrake.com, greg@signatustechnologies.com, iesg@iesg.org, sigtran@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org References: <20080516205031.GA25376@openss7.org> <200805162129.XAA07016@TR-Sys.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805162129.XAA07016@TR-Sys.de> Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: greg@signatustechnologies.com, kmorneau@cisco.com, iesg@iesg.org, rdantu@netrake.com, sigtran@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: Re: [Sigtran] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3331 (1425) X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Alfred, Alfred H=F6nes wrote: (Fri, 16 May 2008 23:29:46) > Brian, > = > Again, sorry, I do not agree. > The text snippits say: > vvvvv vvv > | The SDx Identifier is a 32-bit unsigned value which may only be > significant to 12 or 14 bits depending on the SS7 variant [...] > = > They do *not* say: > vvvv > | The SDx Identifier is a 32-bit unsigned value which is only > significant to 12 or 14 bits depending on the SS7 variant [...] > = > The original version with the "may" obviously is incompatible > with the attribute value layout (16-bit Reserved, 16-bit used) > depicted in both figures, since it admits up to 32 significant > bits. That's the problem. It does not "admit up to 32 significant bits". You see, the Signalling Data Link Identifier is not just some value invented for the purpose of M2UA. It happens to be the value that is used by SS7 MTP Level 3 for identifying the signalling link facility, where it is defined as a Circuit Identification Code. Now, for ITU-T based SS7 variants, the Circuit Identification Code is a value only significant to 12-bits. For ANSI (24-bit point code) derived variants, a Circuit Identification Code can be significant to 14-bits. Now, the "Far, Far, Away" national variant could have 16-bit CICs. Therefore, IT MAY ONLY BE SIGNIFICANT TO 12 OR 14 BITS DEPENDING ON NATIONAL VARIANT is precisely what I wanted to say and is precisely correct. > > = > If the latter is closer to what you wanted to say in the RFC > -- and your above statement clearly seems to confirm this > interpretation --, as a compromise I suggest to replace the > original change proposal by this corrected text variant, > i.e. leave "32-bit" unchanged and s/may only be/is only/ > in both snippits, if you prefer this version. I disagree with both. > Remaining caveat: "significant to n bits" commonly does NOT > mean that the more significant bits are zero. > The addition you have included above, "but the value within that > field only occupies 16 bits ..." is not part of the RFC text. The diagram is just as normative as the text and the diagram shows the value as occupying the low order 16 bits of a 32 bit field where the more significant 16 bits of the 32 bit field are "reserved", which according to the text are coded as zero, making it also identical with a 32-bit value that is significant only to 12 or 14 bits (or whatever the "Far, Far, Away" national variant might happen to specify. > Effectively, this clause amounts to saying the SDxIs are a 16-bit = > unsigned values, as my original change proposal requested. They are not necessarily. Please stop with the nits. --brian -- = Brian F. G. Bidulock bidulock@openss7.org http://www.openss7.org/ _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Sat May 17 04:46:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEDB3A67D8; Sat, 17 May 2008 04:46:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8143A65A5; Sat, 17 May 2008 04:46:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.374 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.374 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o2VwoDwtQjIU; Sat, 17 May 2008 04:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (gw.openss7.com [206.75.119.236]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E16628C2F8; Sat, 17 May 2008 04:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:QxB14o6vJF3ybmREhwP8maN9JpYAufbQ@ns5.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.5]) by gw.openss7.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4HBk0eK004294; Sat, 17 May 2008 05:46:00 -0600 Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:VodPaseV3LBxNdglnTzTfFWiiFTHnYG5@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4HBk0Lh004018; Sat, 17 May 2008 05:46:00 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4HBk0WS004017; Sat, 17 May 2008 05:46:00 -0600 Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 05:46:00 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Alfred =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6nes?= Message-ID: <20080517114600.GA3562@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Alfred =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6nes?= , kmorneau@cisco.com, greg@signatustechnologies.com, iesg@iesg.org, sigtran@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org References: <20080517002547.GA28193@openss7.org> <200805171040.MAA08085@TR-Sys.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805171040.MAA08085@TR-Sys.de> Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: sigtran@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, kmorneau@cisco.com, iesg@iesg.org, greg@signatustechnologies.com Subject: Re: [Sigtran] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3331 (1425) X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Alfred, Alfred H=F6nes wrote: (Sat, 17 May 2008 12:40:18) > = > Brian, > I'm getting even more confused; the arguments appear to be > contradictory. In particular, you "disagree with both" -- > leaving the original 'Corrected Text' unchanged, as well as > changing it. By both, I meant both changing "may" to "is" and changing "32-bit" to "16-bit". > The diagrams clearly show two independent 16-bit wide fields, > and not a sub-partitioned 32-bit field. I had considered to > file an Errata Note changing the diagrams to indeed show a > 32-bit field, but decided that this would be inappropriate. In fact, the diagram shows a 32-bit value partitioned into a 16-bit reserved field and a 16-bit field which contains a value that the text identifies may be significant only to 12 or 14 bits. > The existing inconsistencies in the RFC, for both SDTI and SDLI: > - artwork showing a 16 bit wide field, and No, the artwork shows a 32-bit wide field (unsigned integer value) containing an 16-bit reserved part and a 16-bit field that may be significant only to 12 or 14 bits. Nevertheless, the parameter (TLV) is a 32-bit unsigned value. > - prose talking about a 32-bit unsigned value The parameter (TLV) as shown is a 32-bit unsigned value. > is neither a 'nit' nor resolved by waiving circular arguments. It's a nit. Both the text and the diagram make it blatantly obvious how to both: enter the information into the field for transmission, and extract the information from the field on reception. That the 16-bit reserved field and the 16-bit field containing the value that may be significant to 12 or 14 bits, combine to form a 32-bit unsigned integer value for the TLV, is not contradictory. > You have attempted to cure the inconsistency twofold by adding > more details, once about the text, and once about diagrams. > In both cases, these details are not written in the RFC, but both > would essentially amount in the same clarification as attempted > by the original Errata Report, but in a much more complicated way. The information I offered is contained in NORMATIVE references [2], [3], [4] and [5], and is therefore not repeated in the text. Implementors should read them if they intend to implement this OPTIONAL feature. They are normative. > Both of these versions give strong evidence that > - clarification by an Errata Note is indeed needed, and > - the clarification attempted is in the spirit of the RFC. > = > Your explanations above confirm that, in any present and foreseeable > scenario, the values can be represented by (at most) a 16-bit unsigned > integer. Under these circumstances, I cannot understand why it might > be illegitimate or unreasonable to actually designate these values as > 16-bit unsigned (as had been done in the Errata Note), in a perfect > match to the field widths shown in the diagrams. The TLV width is 32-bits. The reserved portion was diagrammed to make it clear that the 32-bit unsigned value can be assumed to never be significant to more than 16-bits. Removing the reserved field would make it IMO less clear. Referring the the TLV value as a 16-bit unsigned number could confuse the implementor into believing that they can code the TLV as X'030B0006xxxx0000' or X'030C0006xxxx0000', where xxxx is the 12 or 14 significant bit value, which is not the case. > To accommodate your insisting on "32-bit", here's a final alternate > proposal to integrate your reasoning into the Replacement text (again, > please substitute "SDT" and "SDL", respectively, for all occurrences > of "SDx" below to get the two instances of 'Corrected Text' required): > = > The SDx Identifier is a 32-bit unsigned value which may only be > significant to 12 or 14 bits depending on the SS7 variant which > | is supported by the MTP Level 3 at the ASP; its least significant > | 16 bits are placed in the SDx Identifier field of the parameter. > Insignificant SDxI bits are coded 0. See, now there you go and say that the implementor can put a 16-bit field in the TLV when they cannot: they must put a 32-bit field in the TLV. I disagree with your third proposal. > There apparently is significant disagreement on the utility of RFC > Errata Notes, which reportedly are offered 'to record typos and other > editorial and technical flaws of RFCs' (as long as the latter do not > change the intended content of the RFC), as a service to readers and > prospective authors of derived work, and to off-load RFC authors and > the RFC Editor from repeated reports of the same issues. Yours being the only attempted errata report on this text in 6 years does not meet the purpose of offloading repeated reports of the same issues. IMO your proposed changes would be a disservice to readers of the RFC and could lead to implementation errors and interoperability issues. > Therefore, I suggest to not engage in further email exchanges, > but instead defer the decision on the final errata text to the > Verifying Party. I am confident that the verifying party will take into account the comments of the authors presented here, but, regardless is bound by the consensus. --brian -- = Brian F. G. 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There are only a handful of online stores that offer the highest quality Rolex replica watches and Prestige Replicas is among them, and with the lowest available prices! http://duxuvupu46741.blogspot.com/ From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Mon May 19 02:22:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D1E3A6AE0; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:22:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6A33A6AE0 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:22:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.301 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3MsGDiufcMLk for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0.aculab.com (mx0.aculab.com [213.249.233.131]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04063A6CC3 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 02:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn2.Aculab.com (saturn [10.202.163.6]) by mx0.aculab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D4C8734C for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 10:21:47 +0100 (BST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:21:56 +0100 Message-ID: <00D42150952F70458C66072322F7FE25026E7CEE@saturn2.aculab.com> In-Reply-To: <20080517002547.GA28193@openss7.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Sigtran] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3331 (1425) Thread-Index: Aci3tKZRgn/LcUwdTJ+WnJfJNWixnQB1vrkg From: "David Laight" To: , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alfred_H=F6nes?= X-ST-MF-Message-Resent: 5/19/2008 10:21 Cc: greg@signatustechnologies.com, kmorneau@cisco.com, iesg@iesg.org, rdantu@netrake.com, sigtran@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: Re: [Sigtran] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3331 (1425) X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org I'm getting confused about this discussion about the SDT and SDL identifiers (not helped by something discarding half of the emails). Why should M2UA know anything about ISUP CIC values when attempting to allocate a singalling link? In many cases the timeslot on a TDM link used for signalling isn't allocated a CIC number. I would have thought that any values used here have local significance to the M2UA server (ie the TDM side) and be used to determine which TDM timeslot to use. So the SDTI would select between the physical hardware units that run MTP2, and the SDLI would select a port. This would mean that both values might be 32 bit numbers. We used (a slightly modified) M2UA to link MTP3 to MTP2 on some of our cards. One difference/problem was the registration procedures because the MTP2 code was reponsible for allocating the TDM timslot on an internal link to a local TDM switch, which has to be switched to the desired external port/timeslot by the management code. So we needed to return an identifier back to the M2UA client :-( > It does not "admit up to 32 significant bits". You see, > the Signalling Data Link Identifier is not just some value > invented for the purpose of M2UA. It happens to be the value > that is used by SS7 MTP Level 3 for identifying the signalling > link facility, where it is defined as a Circuit Identification > Code. Now, for ITU-T based SS7 variants, the Circuit > Identification Code is a value only significant to 12-bits. For > ANSI (24-bit point code) derived variants, a Circuit Identification > Code can be significant to 14-bits. > > Now, the "Far, Far, Away" national variant could have 16-bit CICs. 16 bit CICs could easily be in use in international links. David Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK Registration No: 1397386 (Wales) P Please consider the environment and don't print this e-mail unless you really need to _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Mon May 19 13:20:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B983A6B30; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:20:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A043A6A9D for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:20:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kbg569FhXexF for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DAB3A6913 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so557013uge.46 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:20:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=ADjvo4DFhf4LFxl+ClJ2KL8asXltlLtI4K4jYFYiBtw=; b=HsacSbkdKsxFMC5vJXIvcpzwA6iRma6rQcNtLaWo8K3DcuAZmqAxMsfYKfXZyOcRCfaNZ+mouSOMVyFKYCQdC+3MqPFvADG3gQknrGUlMJZQh+sxyZNpQ/wkP4NXB4H3s0NT1R0h7+nJYdp7i71Cv9JdUshkGGsuMllOnP82QRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=C+0zELTbWfXtDlLLzUMpwC3HVa1NiA6VNgaU9SZ50p1FevBNuVW4JnxjerSaQjycKSfIsgSiQJAXLNzTQ1nPBtyEbSOn8qfka2IfZpHN/z30qX9xED/1q0ciL0dJMw0405lEBPPvhpb4D32Pa2hCoLFtq1ZCe/TCBWTRGj0o19A= Received: by 10.210.66.13 with SMTP id o13mr7240918eba.193.1211228427157; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.92.3 with HTTP; Mon, 19 May 2008 13:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 22:20:27 +0200 From: "Lee S Dryburgh" To: sigtran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [Sigtran] Called Party has 'B' digit? X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org The other end of a link are complaining that we are sending a 'B' digit, e.g. Called Party number = 24B. I've never seen a 'B' digit in the called party number - could this be a start or hash or something? I'll go look at E.164 to see if it gives a clue. Regards Lee _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Mon May 19 14:08:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC6928C186; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:08:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E33A28C186; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:08:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qmVEq6EQho8w; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (gw.openss7.com [206.75.119.236]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4403E28C183; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:gwhoF3UHDzESx2OQoYqyexkZ+wL0BDGV@ns5.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.5]) by gw.openss7.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4JL7XJe018147; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:07:33 -0600 Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:2eGboMkGkK523sOQuVsYPrORunpPdoSv@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4JL7WfH010696; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:07:32 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4JL7TqP010695; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:07:29 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:07:29 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: David Laight Message-ID: <20080519210729.GA10198@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: David Laight , Alfred =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6nes?= , greg@signatustechnologies.com, kmorneau@cisco.com, iesg@iesg.org, rdantu@netrake.com, sigtran@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org References: <20080517002547.GA28193@openss7.org> <00D42150952F70458C66072322F7FE25026E7CEE@saturn2.aculab.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00D42150952F70458C66072322F7FE25026E7CEE@saturn2.aculab.com> Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Alfred =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6nes?= , greg@signatustechnologies.com, kmorneau@cisco.com, iesg@iesg.org, rdantu@netrake.com, sigtran@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: Re: [Sigtran] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3331 (1425) X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org David, David Laight wrote: (Mon, 19 May 2008 10:21:56) > > I'm getting confused about this discussion about the SDT and SDL > identifiers (not helped by something discarding half of the emails). > > Why should M2UA know anything about ISUP CIC values when attempting > to allocate a singalling link? > In many cases the timeslot on a TDM link used for signalling > isn't allocated a CIC number. See Q.704/1996 Clause 15.13.4. > I would have thought that any values used here have local > significance to the M2UA server (ie the TDM side) and be > used to determine which TDM timeslot to use. > So the SDTI would select between the physical hardware > units that run MTP2, and the SDLI would select a port. > This would mean that both values might be 32 bit numbers. SDLI is per MTP specifications and is externally significant, SDTI is only of significance to the ASP and the SG. > 16 bit CICs could easily be in use in international links. The field in Q.704/1996 Figure 22 is 12 bits. --brian -- Brian F. G. Bidulock bidulock@openss7.org http://www.openss7.org/ _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Mon May 19 14:14:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB41B3A6B18; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:14:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E803A69F9 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:14:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id betxU9wo-WGc for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (gw.openss7.com [206.75.119.236]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C1A3A6B41 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 14:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:asOcvFLhaEkKgQu9fcB7urX3EUs1G0Cp@ns5.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.5]) by gw.openss7.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4JLD8ZG018245; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:13:08 -0600 Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:rKU92ZLhHash0uRD6wgjW9SEpqwpZTgg@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4JLD8Sp010892; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:13:08 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4JLD8Ql010890; Mon, 19 May 2008 15:13:08 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:13:08 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Lee S Dryburgh Message-ID: <20080519211308.GB10198@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Lee S Dryburgh , sigtran References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: sigtran Subject: Re: [Sigtran] Called Party has 'B' digit? X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Lee, That's what happens when you foolishly try to connect to an LNP routing number. ;) But this is not the place for general SS7 questions: it is for technical discussion on SIGTRAN protocols and other SIGTRAN WG items. --brian Lee S Dryburgh wrote: (Mon, 19 May 2008 22:20:27) > The other end of a link are complaining that we are sending a 'B' > digit, e.g. Called Party number = 24B. > > I've never seen a 'B' digit in the called party number - could this be > a start or hash or something? > > I'll go look at E.164 to see if it gives a clue. > > Regards > > Lee -- Brian F. G. 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Hi Experts,

What will be the protocol Id for Diameter when using SCTP as transport.

--
Br,
Ambika Prasad Tripathy
Nethawk Networks
Cell: +91-94375 47730

------=_Part_2020_12190862.1211281941455-- --===============2122627351== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran --===============2122627351==-- From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Tue May 20 04:31:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FCF3A6B7F; Tue, 20 May 2008 04:31:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FDC3A6A0A for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 04:31:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2+bor8slC+Zc for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 04:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (gw.openss7.com [206.75.119.236]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E94D3A6B7F for ; Tue, 20 May 2008 04:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:Ob55p7FXmh3P9hNgWTORb3nHp3UiP4js@ns5.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.5]) by gw.openss7.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4KBV2mE032739; Tue, 20 May 2008 05:31:02 -0600 Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:+8Hv+fmiqPkZuqeLlw5SOW3HkQ3ivQZ9@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4KBV2n9023872; Tue, 20 May 2008 05:31:02 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4KBV2cE023871; Tue, 20 May 2008 05:31:02 -0600 Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 05:31:02 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Ambika Tripathy Message-ID: <20080520113102.GA23557@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ambika Tripathy , sigtran References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: sigtran Subject: Re: [Sigtran] Protocol Id for Diameter X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Ambika, Zero (0). Diameter didn't assign a PPI. See http://www.iana.org/assignments/sctp-parameters --brian Ambika Tripathy wrote: (Tue, 20 May 2008 16:42:21) > > Hi Experts, > > > > What will be the protocol Id for Diameter when using SCTP as > transport. > -- > Br, > Ambika Prasad Tripathy > Nethawk Networks > Cell: +91-94375 47730 -- Brian F. G. Bidulock bidulock@openss7.org http://www.openss7.org/ _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Tue May 20 04:44:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051E83A68B3; Tue, 20 May 2008 04:44:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381C83A68B3; Tue, 20 May 2008 04:44:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.604 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.604 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kvh6wgVGW4Vz; Tue, 20 May 2008 04:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from InDelG01.tcs.com (indelg01.tcs.com [203.200.109.55]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2DF3A67D9; Tue, 20 May 2008 04:44:03 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,515,1204482600"; d="scan'208,217";a="7794453" Received: from unknown (HELO InDelM02.tcs.com) ([172.21.161.40]) by InDelG01.tcs.com with ESMTP; 20 May 2008 17:12:59 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20080520113102.GA23557@openss7.org> From: Sanchit Agarwal To: bidulock@openss7.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5 September 26, 2003 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 17:12:42 +0530 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on InDelM02/TCS(Release 6.5.5FP2HF415 | June 20, 2007) at 05/20/2008 17:12:58, Serialize complete at 05/20/2008 17:12:58 Cc: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org, sigtran Subject: Re: [Sigtran] Protocol Id for Diameter X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1944246180==" Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============1944246180== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004055606525744F_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004055606525744F_= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" please dont send me any more mails........... Thanks, Sanchit Agarwal Tata Consultancy Services Mailto: sanchit.agarwal@tcs.com Website: http://www.tcs.com ____________________________________________ Experience certainty. IT Services Business Solutions Outsourcing ____________________________________________ "Brian F. G. Bidulock" Sent by: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org 05/20/2008 05:01 PM Please respond to bidulock@openss7.org To Ambika Tripathy cc sigtran Subject Re: [Sigtran] Protocol Id for Diameter Ambika, Zero (0). Diameter didn't assign a PPI. See http://www.iana.org/assignments/sctp-parameters --brian Ambika Tripathy wrote: (Tue, 20 May 2008 16:42:21) > > Hi Experts, > > > > What will be the protocol Id for Diameter when using SCTP as > transport. > -- > Br, > Ambika Prasad Tripathy > Nethawk Networks > Cell: +91-94375 47730 -- Brian F. G. 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Ambika, Zero (0). Diameter didn't assign a PPI. See http://www.iana.org/assignments/sctp-parameters --brian Ambika Tripathy wrote: (Tue, 20 May 2008 16:42:21) > > Hi Experts, > > > > What will be the protocol Id for Diameter when using SCTP as > transport. > -- > Br, > Ambika Prasad Tripathy > Nethawk Networks > Cell: +91-94375 47730 -- Brian F. G. Bidulock bidulock@openss7.org http://www.openss7.org/ _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran
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I would prefer they register one and use that... Makes packet analyzing in Wireshark much easier... Best regards Michael On May 20, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: > Ambika, > > Zero (0). Diameter didn't assign a PPI. > > See http://www.iana.org/assignments/sctp-parameters > > --brian > > Ambika Tripathy wrote: (Tue, 20 May 2008 > 16:42:21) >> >> Hi Experts, >> >> >> >> What will be the protocol Id for Diameter when using SCTP as >> transport. >> -- >> Br, >> Ambika Prasad Tripathy >> Nethawk Networks >> Cell: +91-94375 47730 > > -- > Brian F. G. 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Br, Ambika On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Michael T=FCxen < Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote: > Dear all, > > any reason they use 0? I would prefer they register one and > use that... Makes packet analyzing in Wireshark much easier... > > Best regards > Michael > > > On May 20, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: > > Ambika, >> >> Zero (0). Diameter didn't assign a PPI. >> >> See http://www.iana.org/assignments/sctp-parameters >> >> --brian >> >> Ambika Tripathy wrote: (Tue, 20 May 2008 16:42:21) >> >>> >>> Hi Experts, >>> >>> >>> >>> What will be the protocol Id for Diameter when using SCTP as >>> transport. >>> -- >>> Br, >>> Ambika Prasad Tripathy >>> Nethawk Networks >>> Cell: +91-94375 47730 >>> >> >> -- >> Brian F. G. Bidulock >> bidulock@openss7.org >> http://www.openss7.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Sigtran mailing list >> Sigtran@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran >> >> > ------=_Part_176_31269940.1211342777982 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Yes Michael, That will be very easy to analyze the Diameter message.
Br,
Ambika

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 7= :13 PM, Michael T=FCxen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote:

Dear all,

any reason they use 0? I would prefer they register one and
use that... Makes packet analyzing in Wireshark much easier...

Best regards
Michael

On May 20, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:

=
Ambika,

Zero (0). Diameter didn't assign a PPI.

See http://www.iana.org/assignments/sctp-parameters

--brian

Ambika Tripathy wrote: &nb= sp; (Tue, 20 May 2008 16:42:21)

Hi Experts,

What will be the protocol Id for Diameter when using S= CTP as
transport.
--
Br,
Ambika Prasad Tripathy
Nethawk Networks
Cell: +91-94375 47730

--
Brian F. G. Bidulock
bidulock@openss7.= org
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Sanchit Agarwal Tata Consultancy Services Mailto: sanchit.agarwal@tcs.com Website: http://www.tcs.com ____________________________________________ Experience certainty. IT Services Business Solutions Outsourcing ____________________________________________ "Ambika Tripathy" =20 Sent by: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org 05/21/2008 09:36 AM To "Michael T=FCxen" cc bidulock@openss7.org, sigtran Subject Re: [Sigtran] Protocol Id for Diameter Yes Michael, That will be very easy to analyze the Diameter message.=20 Br, Ambika On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Michael T=FCxen < Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote: Dear all, any reason they use 0? I would prefer they register one and use that... Makes packet analyzing in Wireshark much easier... Best regards Michael On May 20, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: Ambika, Zero (0). Diameter didn't assign a PPI. 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To	"Michael T=FCxen" <Mich= ael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de>
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Subject	Re: [Sigtran] Protocol Id for Diamet= er

Yes Michael, That will be very easy to analyze the Diame= ter message.

Br,
Ambika

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Michael T=FCxen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de&g= t; wrote:
Dear all,

any reason they use 0? I would prefer they register one and
use that... Makes packet analyzing in Wireshark much easier...

Best regards
Michael

On May 20, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:

Ambika,

Zero (0). Diameter didn't assign a PPI.

See http://www.iana.org/assignments/= sctp-parameters

--brian

Ambika Tripathy wrote: (Tue, 20 May 2008 16:42:21)

Hi Experts,

What will be the protocol Id for Diameter when using SCTP as
transport.
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G. Bidulock" To: Arvind Kumar Message-ID: <20080525082321.GA9060@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Arvind Kumar , sigtran@ietf.org References: <1592b2ae0805242354t11538b67y73bfbc183b94352f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1592b2ae0805242354t11538b67y73bfbc183b94352f@mail.gmail.com> Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: sigtran@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Sigtran] Static Registration in M3UA X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Arvind, RFC 4666 section 1.4.2.3 --brian Arvind Kumar wrote: (Sun, 25 May 2008 12:24:31) > > Hello! > I tried to find out Static Registration in M3UA RFCs. > But no where it was mentioned, could you please help me in this > regards, I will be very greatful. > Thanks & Regards, > Arvind -- Brian F. 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Thank you for your response. I have one more doubt. If statis registration is to confiure the data at SG side. Like configuring the PS. Then what is this no registration ? Thanks & Regards, Arvind On 5/25/08, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: > > Arvind, > > RFC 4666 section 1.4.2.3 > > --brian > > Arvind Kumar wrote: (Sun, 25 May 2008 12:24:31) > > > > > Hello! > > I tried to find out Static Registration in M3UA RFCs. > > But no where it was mentioned, could you please help me in this > > regards, I will be very greatful. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Arvind > > > -- > Brian F. G. Bidulock > bidulock@openss7.org > http://www.openss7.org/ > ------=_Part_15187_9181014.1212125589910 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello!
Thank you for your response.
I have one more doubt. If statis registration is to confiure the data at SG side. Like configuring the PS. Then what is this no registration ?

Thanks & Regards,
Arvind

On 5/25/08, Brian F. G. Bidulock <bidulock@openss7.org> wrote:

Arvind,

        RFC 4666 section 1.4.2.3

--brian

Arvind Kumar wrote:          (Sun, 25 May 2008 12:24:31)

>
>    Hello!
>    I tried to find out Static Registration in M3UA RFCs.
>    But no where it was mentioned, could you please help me in this
>    regards, I will be very greatful.
>    Thanks & Regards,
>    Arvind

--
Brian F. G. Bidulock
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------=_Part_15187_9181014.1212125589910-- --===============0538563772== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran --===============0538563772==-- From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Fri May 30 00:52:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sigtran-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sigtran-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9503A6912; Fri, 30 May 2008 00:52:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sigtran@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F2A3A68D1 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 00:52:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.105 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.105 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, J_CHICKENPOX_12=0.6, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3k6Bm9ONqY1a for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 00:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (unknown [206.75.119.236]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EF43A6870 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 00:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:4p1+VdBRQ5MUFgNqcknwi35he0lgjFUj@ns5.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.5]) by gw.openss7.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4U7qqEG018334; Fri, 30 May 2008 01:52:52 -0600 Received: from wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:/TEryAEguXUM47sDRQGQH47TdrVa72pM@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4U7qpQ1019492; Fri, 30 May 2008 01:52:51 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by wilbur.pigworks.openss7.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4U7qpll019491; Fri, 30 May 2008 01:52:51 -0600 Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 01:52:51 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Arvind Kumar Message-ID: <20080530075251.GA19206@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Arvind Kumar , sigtran@ietf.org References: <1592b2ae0805242354t11538b67y73bfbc183b94352f@mail.gmail.com> <20080525082321.GA9060@openss7.org> <1592b2ae0805292233o228b0440jd037c55f879ef788@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1592b2ae0805292233o228b0440jd037c55f879ef788@mail.gmail.com> Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: sigtran@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Sigtran] Static Registration in M3UA X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Arvind, Arvind Kumar wrote: (Fri, 30 May 2008 11:03:09) > > I have one more doubt. If statis registration is to confiure the data > at SG side. Like configuring the PS. Then what is this no registration? Do you mean "configuration" instead of "registration"? A routing key is: - configured statically using a management interface, or, - configured dynamically using the registration procedures. Where did you see, or what do you mean by, "no registration"? --brian -- Brian F. G. Bidulock bidulock@openss7.org http://www.openss7.org/ _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran