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Even a project of this size � especially a project of this size � has to have a Plan B in case it has to move forward without the critics. So the available information is surprising.

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G. Bidulock" To: Sheshendra Rathi Subject: Re: [Sigtran] M2PA Processor Outage state ? Message-ID: <20071205081412.A29476@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Sheshendra Rathi , sigtran@ietf.org References: <14168478.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <14168478.post@talk.nabble.com>; from sheshendrarathi@gmail.com on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 02:01:46AM -0800 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Scan-Signature: bb8f917bb6b8da28fc948aeffb74aa17 Cc: sigtran@ietf.org X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Sheshendra, Yes. 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------=_NextPart_000_5B0CD_01C3BBBC.1C2B2060-- From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 06 02:33:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0BEH-0007LX-P4; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:33:05 -0500 Received: from sigtran by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J0BEG-00072Q-48 for sigtran-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:33:04 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0BEF-0006vo-F5 for sigtran@ietf.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:33:03 -0500 Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0BE7-0007hB-L7 for sigtran@ietf.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:33:03 -0500 Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1J0BE7-0003UP-Ay for sigtran@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:32:55 -0800 Message-ID: <14187640.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:32:55 -0800 (PST) From: Sheshendra Rathi To: sigtran@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Sigtran] M2PA Processor Outage state ? In-Reply-To: <20071205081412.A29476@openss7.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: sheshendrarathi@gmail.com References: <14168478.post@talk.nabble.com> <20071205081412.A29476@openss7.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Scan-Signature: 082a9cbf4d599f360ac7f815372a6a15 X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Dose it mean that I should be handling the link failures during Processor Outage, As RFC does not say any thing on link failures during Processor outage. --Rathi Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: > > Sheshendra, > > Yes. 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I think we can configure the remote PS only if corresponding local PS are present. I mean to say that if in ASP side if we configure two AS then we can only configure the two remote PS with the same routing key that the local PS is configured. if i understood wrong please clarify me Thanks, veena ------=_Part_7123_15275447.1196926798629 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

hi,

Is it possible to configure new remote PS without the local PS??

I think we can configure the remote PS only if corresponding local PS are present.

I mean to say that if in ASP side if we configure two AS then we can only configure the two remote PS with the same routing key that the local PS is configured.

if i understood wrong please clarify me

Thanks,

veena

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G. Bidulock" To: Sheshendra Rathi Subject: Re: [Sigtran] M2PA Processor Outage state ? Message-ID: <20071206022905.A14603@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Sheshendra Rathi , sigtran@ietf.org References: <14168478.post@talk.nabble.com> <20071205081412.A29476@openss7.org> <14187640.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <14187640.post@talk.nabble.com>; from sheshendrarathi@gmail.com on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 11:32:55PM -0800 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a7d6aff76b15f3f56fcb94490e1052e4 Cc: sigtran@ietf.org X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Sheshendra, Q.703 permits link failure during remote processor outage. Q.703 does not permite link failure during local processor outage (because if L2 can deliver link failure to L3 there is no local processor outage at L2). Also: |4. Procedures | | Because M2PA provides MTP3 with an interface and functionality like | MTP2, its internal functioning is similar to that of MTP2. | | Except as modified in this document, M2PA SHOULD follow the | requirements of the applicable MTP2 specification. These may include | [Q.703] or [T1.111]. The same standard MUST be followed on both ends | of the M2PA link. | | In particular, the corresponding applicable timer value defaults and | ranges specified for the applicable MTP2 standard should be used for | the M2PA timers. | | When referring to MTP2 terminology in this document, the terminology | of [Q.703] is used. This does not imply that the requirements of | [Q.703] are to be followed. --brian Sheshendra Rathi wrote: (Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:32:55) > > > Dose it mean that I should be handling the link failures during Processor > Outage, > As RFC does not say any thing on link failures during Processor outage. > > --Rathi -- Brian F. G. Bidulock bidulock@openss7.org http://www.openss7.org/ _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 06 04:31:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0D4R-0006fz-L2; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:31:03 -0500 Received: from sigtran by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J0D4Q-0006T3-Gw for sigtran-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:31:02 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0D4Q-0006Nu-1y for sigtran@ietf.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:31:02 -0500 Received: from gw.openss7.com ([206.75.119.236]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0D4I-0004TW-Jv for sigtran@ietf.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:31:02 -0500 Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:8FSRoEHUbrxFGEVl1nElISJFldheJk+y@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id lB69UrI27387; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 02:30:53 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id lB69UqV14819; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 02:30:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 02:30:52 -0700 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Veena S Subject: Re: [Sigtran] M3UA, Configuration of the remote PS Message-ID: <20071206023052.B14603@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Veena S , sigtran@ietf.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from veena.sig@gmail.com on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 01:09:58PM +0530 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b30eb7682a596edff707698f4a80f7d Cc: sigtran@ietf.org X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Veena, What is a 'PS'? --brian Veena S wrote: (Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:09:58) > > hi, > > > > Is it possible to configure new remote PS without the local PS?? > > I think we can configure the remote PS only if corresponding local PS > are present. > > I mean to say that if in ASP side if we configure two AS then we can > only configure the two remote PS with the same routing key that the > local PS is configured. > > if i understood wrong please clarify me > > > > Thanks, > > veena > _______________________________________________ > Sigtran mailing list > Sigtran@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran -- Brian F. 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Bidulock" To: Veena S Message-ID: <20071210011442.A31960@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Veena S , sigtran@ietf.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from veena.sig@gmail.com on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:37:28AM +0530 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by gw.openss7.com id lBA8EhI01432 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Cc: sigtran@ietf.org Subject: [Sigtran] Re: M3UA, network apperance value X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Veena, On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Veena S wrote: >=20 > I like to know can we set the network appearance value to zero. 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Traffic Mode sent in the ASP Active Ack message as was received in the ASP Active message. RFC3868 also says about IPSP considerations: "...An ASP receiving an ASP Active Ack message may mark the peer as ASP-Active, if it is not already in the ASP-ACTIVE state." =20 i.e. we receive an Ack to the message sent from this end, containing our own Traffic mode and not that from the remote end. So my question is how do we obtain the traffic mode from the remote end ? Thanks in advance, Jason =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C83B3B.4241D4F7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SUA, IPSP SE mode and ASP Active Ack Traffic mode param

Hello,

My = question relates to the Single Exchange mode of operation = in an IPSP situation for the SUA.

For = the Traffic mode param in = the ASP Active Ack message RFC3868 = states: = "..reflecting any Traffic Mode Type = value present in the related ASP Active message."

This implies it = should be the = same = (possibly validated ?) Traffic Mode sent in the ASP Active Ack message as was received in the ASP Active = message.

RFC3868 also says about IPSP considerations: "...An ASP receiving an ASP Active Ack message may mark the = peer as ASP-Active, if it is not already in the ASP-ACTIVE = state."

i.e. we receive an Ack to the message sent from = this end, containing our own = Traffic mode and not that from the remote = end. So my question is how do = we obtain the traffic mode from the remote end ?

Thanks in advance,

Jason

------_=_NextPart_001_01C83B3B.4241D4F7-- --===============1090292552== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran --===============1090292552==-- From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 10 11:09:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1lC9-0008Ou-DK; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:09:25 -0500 Received: from sigtran by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J1lC7-0008GL-NT for sigtran-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:09:23 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1lC7-0008Dn-7x for sigtran@ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:09:23 -0500 Received: from mx0.aculab.com ([213.249.233.131]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1lC6-0007tW-Ts for sigtran@ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:09:23 -0500 Received: from saturn2.Aculab.com (saturn [10.202.163.6]) by mx0.aculab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE8687349 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:09:18 +0000 (GMT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:09:18 -0000 Message-ID: <00D42150952F70458C66072322F7FE25105561@saturn2.aculab.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SCTP heartbeat timeout Thread-Index: Acg7RwR0/mRXk3gSQum3o31wqEex5Q== From: "David Laight" To: X-ST-MF-Message-Resent: 12/10/2007 16:09 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Subject: [Sigtran] SCTP heartbeat timeout X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org SCTP uses a heartbeat message to detect failure of the peer system. When we test this with the SCTP code in linux 2.6 it takes 15-16 minutes to report a failure on an idle connection. Is this the expected timeout, it seems a little long! I would have expected the code to try more aggressively to get a response once the original 30 second timer expires. David Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1= 1PT, UK Registration No: 1397386 (Wales) P Please consider the environment and don't print this e-mail unless you = really need to _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 10 11:42:30 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1li7-0000PH-0T; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:42:27 -0500 Received: from sigtran by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J1li5-0000P4-Sh for sigtran-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:42:25 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1li5-0000Ow-J2 for sigtran@ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:42:25 -0500 Received: from gw.openss7.com ([206.75.119.236]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1li3-0005PK-6O for sigtran@ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:42:25 -0500 Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:/MvA4dmQ6d2LeenBeyzncbPzdFi2xup0@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id lBAGgMI21503; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:42:22 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id lBAGgLH07786; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:42:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:42:21 -0700 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Veena S Message-ID: <20071210094221.A7760@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Veena S , sigtran@ietf.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from veena.sig@gmail.com on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 06:35:41PM +0530 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by gw.openss7.com id lBAGgMI21503 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 Cc: sigtran@ietf.org Subject: [Sigtran] Re: M3UA, ASPSM message X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Veena, On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Veena S wrote: >=20 > If there are two ASPs and both ASP will send the ASPUP message b= ut > from the peer only one ASPUP ACK message is received. >=20 > Then how we can come to know that which ASP can send the ASP= AC > message? The one that received APUP Ack may send ASPAC. --brian --=20 Brian F. G. Bidulock =A6 The reasonable man adapts himself to the =A6 bidulock@openss7.org =A6 world; the unreasonable one persists in =A6 http://www.openss7.org/ =A6 trying to adapt the world to himself. =A6 =A6 Therefore all progress depends on the =A6 =A6 unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw =A6 _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 10 11:54:58 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1luE-00054i-Iw; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:54:58 -0500 Received: from sigtran by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J1luD-00054Y-M0 for sigtran-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:54:57 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1luD-00054P-CJ for sigtran@ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:54:57 -0500 Received: from drew.ipv6.franken.de ([2001:638:a02:a001:20e:cff:fe4a:feaa] helo=mail-n.franken.de) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1luC-0005jF-UB for sigtran@ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:54:57 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.15] (p508FC521.dip.t-dialin.net [80.143.197.33]) by mail-n.franken.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026128006D91; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:54:55 +0100 (CET) (KNF-authenticated sender: micmac) Message-Id: From: Michael Tuexen To: "David Laight" In-Reply-To: <00D42150952F70458C66072322F7FE25105561@saturn2.aculab.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: Re: [Sigtran] SCTP heartbeat timeout Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:54:54 +0100 References: <00D42150952F70458C66072322F7FE25105561@saturn2.aculab.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 69a74e02bbee44ab4f8eafdbcedd94a1 Cc: sigtran@ietf.org X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Hi David, it is within the spec to retransmit HB after RTO + HB.Interval where RTO is doubled but within RTO.min and RTO.max. What is the maximum number of retransmissions you use until the assoc dies? Best regards Michael On Dec 10, 2007, at 5:09 PM, David Laight wrote: > SCTP uses a heartbeat message to detect failure of the peer system. > > When we test this with the SCTP code in linux 2.6 it takes 15-16 > minutes to report a failure on an idle connection. > > Is this the expected timeout, it seems a little long! > > I would have expected the code to try more aggressively to get > a response once the original 30 second timer expires. > > David > > Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton > Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK > Registration No: 1397386 (Wales) > P Please consider the environment and don't print this e-mail unless > you really need to > > > _______________________________________________ > Sigtran mailing list > Sigtran@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran > _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 10 12:12:23 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1mB4-0006xr-Jj; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:12:22 -0500 Received: from sigtran by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J1mB3-0006xR-Tc for sigtran-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:12:21 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1mB3-0006xI-CZ for sigtran@ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:12:21 -0500 Received: from gw.openss7.com ([206.75.119.236]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1mB2-0006C9-Nl for sigtran@ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:12:21 -0500 Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:FikOUk6Jie35PcPWc/uLG/xzJ81DDsox@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id lBAHCJI22200; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:12:20 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id lBAHCJI08278; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:12:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:12:19 -0700 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Jason Parker Subject: Re: [Sigtran] SUA, IPSP SE mode and ASP Active Ack Traffic mode param Message-ID: <20071210101219.B7760@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: Jason Parker , sigtran@ietf.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jason.parker@dialogic.com on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 02:45:06PM -0000 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 21c69d3cfc2dd19218717dbe1d974352 Cc: sigtran@ietf.org X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Jason, Traffic Mode is not really intended to be dynamic: that is, it should be provisioned at both ends. --brian Jason Parker wrote: (Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:45:06) > > Hello, > > My question relates to the Single Exchange mode of operation in an > IPSP situation for the SUA. > > For the Traffic mode param in the ASP Active Ack message RFC3868 > states: "..reflecting any Traffic Mode Type value present in the > related ASP Active message." > > This implies it should be the same (possibly validated ?) Traffic Mode > sent in the ASP Active Ack message as was received in the ASP Active > message. > > RFC3868 also says about IPSP considerations: "...An ASP receiving an > ASP Active Ack message may mark the peer as ASP-Active, if it is not > already in the ASP-ACTIVE state." > > i.e. we receive an Ack to the message sent from this end, containing > our own Traffic mode and not that from the remote end. So my question > is how do we obtain the traffic mode from the remote end ? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jason > _______________________________________________ > Sigtran mailing list > Sigtran@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran -- Brian F. G. Bidulock bidulock@openss7.org http://www.openss7.org/ _______________________________________________ Sigtran mailing list Sigtran@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran From sigtran-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 10 12:16:36 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1mF9-00030X-JS; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:16:35 -0500 Received: from sigtran by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J1mF8-0002sl-5t for sigtran-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:16:34 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1mF7-0002rs-SA for sigtran@ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:16:33 -0500 Received: from gw.openss7.com ([206.75.119.236]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1mF6-0006Id-Bd for sigtran@ietf.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:16:33 -0500 Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:I+dOzDSLYw5FA2yNAJdXiJ22jkVIJ2Sv@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id lBAHGVI22315; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:16:31 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id lBAHGV108341; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:16:31 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:16:31 -0700 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: David Laight Subject: Re: [Sigtran] SCTP heartbeat timeout Message-ID: <20071210101631.C7760@openss7.org> Mail-Followup-To: David Laight , sigtran@ietf.org References: <00D42150952F70458C66072322F7FE25105561@saturn2.aculab.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <00D42150952F70458C66072322F7FE25105561@saturn2.aculab.com>; from David.Laight@ACULAB.COM on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 04:09:18PM -0000 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 39bd8f8cbb76cae18b7e23f7cf6b2b9f Cc: sigtran@ietf.org X-BeenThere: sigtran@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org List-Id: Signaling Transport List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sigtran-bounces@ietf.org David, That is almost normal behaviour when parameters are set to the recommended values of RFC 4460. (It should take about 10 minutes.) You could try reducing the heartbeat interval and RTO.Max to reduce the overall time or use an application timer. --brian David Laight wrote: (Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:09:18) > SCTP uses a heartbeat message to detect failure of the peer system. > > When we test this with the SCTP code in linux 2.6 it takes 15-16 > minutes to report a failure on an idle connection. > > Is this the expected timeout, it seems a little long! > > I would have expected the code to try more aggressively to get > a response once the original 30 second timer expires. > > David > > Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK > Registration No: 1397386 (Wales) > P Please consider the environment and don't print this e-mail unless you really need to > > > _______________________________________________ > Sigtran mailing list > Sigtran@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sigtran -- Brian F. G. 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