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------=_NextPart_001_0001_9B9C88D1.D2D295A0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0000_59490283.70F48144-- From owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org Wed Nov 30 10:03:24 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EhTUS-0001DQ-P9 for sacred-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:03:24 -0500 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA27538 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jAUEtwDZ003456; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:55:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id jAUEtwN8003455; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:55:58 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from vulcan.rsasecurity.com (vulcan.rsasecurity.com [216.162.240.130]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jAUEtv75003448 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:55:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mnystrom@rsasecurity.com) Received: from mailx.rsasecurity.com by vulcan.rsasecurity.com via smtpd (for mail.imc.org [208.184.76.43]) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:55:57 -0500 Received: from sdtihq24.securid.com by hyperion.na.rsa.net with ESMTP id BMD08084; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:55:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from rsana-ex-hq1.NA.RSA.NET (e2k.rsa.net [10.100.8.50]) by sdtihq24.securid.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jAUEttpV017744 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from rsana-ex-sm1.NA.RSA.NET ([10.80.211.17]) by rsana-ex-hq1.NA.RSA.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:55:55 -0500 Received: from localhost ([10.129.13.14]) by rsana-ex-sm1.NA.RSA.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:55:44 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:56:03 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Nystr=F6m?= Reply-To: magnus@rsasecurity.com To: IETF SACRED WG Subject: Re: Security Area Response to Hash Function "Breaks" Message-ID: X-X-Sender: mnystrom@[10.80.211.17] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2005 14:55:45.0195 (UTC) FILETIME=[24532FB0:01C5F5BE] Sender: owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Please see below. In light of recent cryptanalytic results on hash functions, each IETF working group is asked to provide an analysis of its use of hash functions. SACRED rely on DIGEST-MD5, but IMO SACRED does not become vulnerable to attacks due to recent results on MD5. The reasons are that in Digest-MD5, hashes are either done on nonces provided both by the client and the server or on the username and password selected by the client. Hence an attacker cannot perform a collision attack - in the former because the nonces are not known in advance and in the latter case since it would be equivalent to finding the password, at which point he could impersonate the user anyway. Comments, anyone? -- Magnus On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Russ Housley wrote: > Below is a summary of the discussion that occurred at the SAAG session during > IETF 64. When MD5 or SHA-1 is used to support digital signatures or used by > itself, recent cryptographic research findings indicate the need for a > transition. Therefore, I encourage all IETF WGs to follow the lead of the > Security Area in transition away from MD5 and SHA-1 toward SHA-256. > > TCP-MD5 is one example where a transition is needed. In this case, a > transition to HMAC-SHA-1 or HMAC-SHA-256 seems like a reasonable move. > > Russ Housley > Security Area Director > > = = = = = = = = = = > > During IETF 64, the Security Area Advisors Group (SAAG) session was dedicated > to the discussion of hash function "breaks" and the appropriate IETF response > to this situation. > > Eric Rescorla from gave a presentation on deploying a new hash function. The > presentation is based on a paper that Eric co-authored with Steve Bellovin. > All of the IETF security protocols that were analyzed required work in order > to support transition to new hash functions. The paper is available at > http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/papers/new-hash.pdf > > Russ Housley gave a presentation on the Security Area response to these hash > function "breaks." We should "walk, not run." This is not a problem yet, > but as the attacks are improved it will become a problem. Russ shared his > conclusions from the NIST Hash Workshop held on October 31st and November > 1st. > * SHA-1 should be reach its "end of life" digital > signatures by 2010; > * The IETF cannot expect any new standard hash functions > before 2010; > * The security ADs have decided that we need to transition > to SHA-256 now; and > * There will probably be another transition once a new hash > function is available. > > The IETF needs to become good at transitions as we have at least two. Within > the Security Area, protocols with active WGs will be analyzed within those > WGs; others will be handled in SAAG. The following directive to WG Chairs in > the Security Area was given: > * Perform Bellovin-Rescorla analysis on every protocol in > the WG by IETF 65; and > * Start standards work on transition to SHA-256, but plan > for future transitions. > > In some cases it may be appropriate to transition away from hash functions, > perhaps to a message authentication code. From owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org Wed Nov 30 10:33:31 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EhTxb-00050x-5H for sacred-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:33:31 -0500 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA00858 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jAUFRcKJ006656; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:27:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id jAUFRcuf006655; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:27:38 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from woodstock.binhost.com (woodstock.binhost.com [144.202.243.4]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with SMTP id jAUFRbDc006648 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:27:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from housley@vigilsec.com) Received: (qmail 16663 invoked by uid 0); 30 Nov 2005 15:27:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Russ-Laptop.vigilsec.com) (138.88.40.79) by woodstock.binhost.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2005 15:27:32 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.0.10.2.20051130102405.06227a90@vigilsec.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.10 (Beta) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:27:32 -0500 To: magnus@rsasecurity.com, IETF SACRED WG From: Russ Housley Subject: Re: Security Area Response to Hash Function "Breaks" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id KAA00858 Magnus: The NIST recommendation is to move away from SHA-1 by 2010, simply=20 due to its size. NIST made this recommendation before the flaws in=20 SHA-1 were discovered. SHA-1 is a 160-bit hash. MD5 is a 128-bit=20 hash. Can you explain why the smaller hash value is acceptable in=20 the SACRED protocol context beyond 2010? Russ At 09:56 AM 11/30/2005, Magnus Nystr=F6m wrote: >Please see below. > >In light of recent cryptanalytic results on hash functions, each=20 >IETF working group is asked to provide an analysis of its use of=20 >hash functions. > >SACRED rely on DIGEST-MD5, but IMO SACRED does not become vulnerable=20 >to attacks due to recent results on MD5. The reasons are that in=20 >Digest-MD5, hashes are either done on nonces provided both by the=20 >client and the server or on the username and password selected by=20 >the client. Hence an attacker cannot perform a collision attack - in=20 >the former because the nonces are not known in advance and in the=20 >latter case since it would be equivalent to finding the password, at=20 >which point he could impersonate the user anyway. > >Comments, anyone? > >-- Magnus > >On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Russ Housley wrote: > >>Below is a summary of the discussion that occurred at the SAAG=20 >>session during IETF 64. When MD5 or SHA-1 is used to support=20 >>digital signatures or used by itself, recent cryptographic research=20 >>findings indicate the need for a transition. Therefore, I=20 >>encourage all IETF WGs to follow the lead of the Security Area in=20 >>transition away from MD5 and SHA-1 toward SHA-256. >>TCP-MD5 is one example where a transition is needed. In this case,=20 >>a transition to HMAC-SHA-1 or HMAC-SHA-256 seems like a reasonable move. >>Russ Housley >>Security Area Director >>=3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D >>During IETF 64, the Security Area Advisors Group (SAAG) session was=20 >>dedicated to the discussion of hash function "breaks" and the=20 >>appropriate IETF response to this situation. >>Eric Rescorla from gave a presentation on deploying a new hash=20 >>function. The presentation is based on a paper that Eric=20 >>co-authored with Steve Bellovin. All of the IETF security protocols=20 >>that were analyzed required work in order to support transition to=20 >>new hash functions. The paper is available at=20 >>http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/papers/new-hash.pdf >>Russ Housley gave a presentation on the Security Area response to=20 >>these hash function "breaks." We should "walk, not run." This is=20 >>not a problem yet, but as the attacks are improved it will become a=20 >>problem. Russ shared his conclusions from the NIST Hash Workshop=20 >>held on October 31st and November 1st. >> * SHA-1 should be reach its "end of life" digital >> signatures by 2010; >> * The IETF cannot expect any new standard hash functions >> before 2010; >> * The security ADs have decided that we need to transition >> to SHA-256 now; and >> * There will probably be another transition once a new hash >> function is available. >>The IETF needs to become good at transitions as we have at least=20 >>two. Within the Security Area, protocols with active WGs will be=20 >>analyzed within those WGs; others will be handled in SAAG. The=20 >>following directive to WG Chairs in the Security Area was given: >> * Perform Bellovin-Rescorla analysis on every protocol in >> the WG by IETF 65; and >> * Start standards work on transition to SHA-256, but plan >> for future transitions. >>In some cases it may be appropriate to transition away from hash=20 >>functions, perhaps to a message authentication code. > From owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org Wed Nov 30 10:52:06 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EhUFa-00073P-85 for sacred-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:52:06 -0500 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA02913 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:51:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jAUFkBXL008863; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:46:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id jAUFkBi9008862; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:46:11 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from vulcan.rsasecurity.com (vulcan.rsasecurity.com [216.162.240.130]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jAUFkAuA008856 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:46:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mnystrom@rsasecurity.com) Received: from mailx.rsasecurity.com by vulcan.rsasecurity.com via smtpd (for mail.imc.org [208.184.76.43]) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:46:10 -0500 Received: from sdtihq24.securid.com by hyperion.na.rsa.net with ESMTP id BMD26977; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from rsana-ex-hq0.NA.RSA.NET (rsana-ex-hq0.na.rsa.net [10.100.8.49]) by sdtihq24.securid.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jAUFk1pV015741; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from rsana-ex-sm1.NA.RSA.NET ([10.80.211.17]) by rsana-ex-hq0.NA.RSA.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:46:01 -0500 Received: from localhost ([10.129.13.14]) by rsana-ex-sm1.NA.RSA.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:45:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:46:07 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Nystr=F6m?= Reply-To: magnus@rsasecurity.com To: Russ Housley cc: IETF SACRED WG Subject: Re: Security Area Response to Hash Function "Breaks" In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.10.2.20051130102405.06227a90@vigilsec.com> Message-ID: References: <7.0.0.10.2.20051130102405.06227a90@vigilsec.com> X-X-Sender: mnystrom@[10.80.211.17] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="24612531-1561-1133364987=:4168" Content-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2005 15:45:49.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[2352AB70:01C5F5C5] Sender: owner-ietf-sacred@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --24612531-1561-1133364987=:4168 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1; FORMAT=flowed Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In the context of Digest-MD5, we're mostly concerned about pre-image=20 resistance. I further assume that the entropy of the underlying password=20 is less than 128 bits. -- Magnus On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Russ Housley wrote: > Magnus: > > The NIST recommendation is to move away from SHA-1 by 2010, simply due to= its=20 > size. NIST made this recommendation before the flaws in SHA-1 were=20 > discovered. SHA-1 is a 160-bit hash. MD5 is a 128-bit hash. Can you=20 > explain why the smaller hash value is acceptable in the SACRED protocol= =20 > context beyond 2010? > > Russ > > At 09:56 AM 11/30/2005, Magnus Nystr=F6m wrote: > >> Please see below. >>=20 >> In light of recent cryptanalytic results on hash functions, each IETF=20 >> working group is asked to provide an analysis of its use of hash functio= ns. >>=20 >> SACRED rely on DIGEST-MD5, but IMO SACRED does not become vulnerable to= =20 >> attacks due to recent results on MD5. The reasons are that in Digest-MD5= ,=20 >> hashes are either done on nonces provided both by the client and the ser= ver=20 >> or on the username and password selected by the client. Hence an attacke= r=20 >> cannot perform a collision attack - in the former because the nonces are= =20 >> not known in advance and in the latter case since it would be equivalent= to=20 >> finding the password, at which point he could impersonate the user anywa= y. >>=20 >> Comments, anyone? >>=20 >> -- Magnus >>=20 >> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Russ Housley wrote: >>=20 >>> Below is a summary of the discussion that occurred at the SAAG session= =20 >>> during IETF 64. When MD5 or SHA-1 is used to support digital signatures= or=20 >>> used by itself, recent cryptographic research findings indicate the nee= d=20 >>> for a transition. Therefore, I encourage all IETF WGs to follow the le= ad=20 >>> of the Security Area in transition away from MD5 and SHA-1 toward SHA-2= 56. >>> TCP-MD5 is one example where a transition is needed. In this case, a= =20 >>> transition to HMAC-SHA-1 or HMAC-SHA-256 seems like a reasonable move. >>> Russ Housley >>> Security Area Director >>> =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D >>> During IETF 64, the Security Area Advisors Group (SAAG) session was=20 >>> dedicated to the discussion of hash function "breaks" and the appropria= te=20 >>> IETF response to this situation. >>> Eric Rescorla from gave a presentation on deploying a new hash function= =2E=20 >>> The presentation is based on a paper that Eric co-authored with Steve= =20 >>> Bellovin. All of the IETF security protocols that were analyzed require= d=20 >>> work in order to support transition to new hash functions. The paper i= s=20 >>> available at http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/papers/new-hash.pdf >>> Russ Housley gave a presentation on the Security Area response to these= =20 >>> hash function "breaks." We should "walk, not run." This is not a prob= lem=20 >>> yet, but as the attacks are improved it will become a problem. Russ=20 >>> shared his conclusions from the NIST Hash Workshop held on October 31st= =20 >>> and November 1st. >>> * SHA-1 should be reach its "end of life" digital >>> signatures by 2010; >>> * The IETF cannot expect any new standard hash functions >>> before 2010; >>> * The security ADs have decided that we need to transition >>> to SHA-256 now; and >>> * There will probably be another transition once a new hash >>> function is available. >>> The IETF needs to become good at transitions as we have at least two.= =20 >>> Within the Security Area, protocols with active WGs will be analyzed=20 >>> within those WGs; others will be handled in SAAG. The following direct= ive=20 >>> to WG Chairs in the Security Area was given: >>> * Perform Bellovin-Rescorla analysis on every protocol in >>> the WG by IETF 65; and >>> * Start standards work on transition to SHA-256, but plan >>> for future transitions. >>> In some cases it may be appropriate to transition away from hash=20 >>> functions, perhaps to a message authentication code. >>=20 > > --24612531-1561-1133364987=:4168-- From rshewman1007@ay-yildiz.com Wed Nov 30 15:47:03 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EhYr1-00082Z-6r for sacred-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:47:03 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA10981 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:46:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [67.131.204.98] (helo=localhost) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EhZBM-0002XC-25 for sacred-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:08:04 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c5f5ed$cae53380$0100007f@localhost> From: "Christopher Taylor" To: Subject: What IS 0EM Software And Why D0 You Care? 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