From rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Thu Apr 3 09:59:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-rtgwg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1D028C422; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:59:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D092928C41E for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:57:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aVvNFZbmDHp9 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chip3og58.obsmtp.com (chip3og58.obsmtp.com [64.18.14.181]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F47428C2E0 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) by chip3ob58.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:57:26 PDT Received: from proton.jnpr.net ([10.10.2.37]) by emailsmtp55.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:57:36 -0700 Received: from emailwf1.jnpr.net ([10.10.2.33]) by proton.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:57:29 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Welcome Alia Atlas as RTGWG co-chair Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:52:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3525C9833C09ED418C6FD6CD9514668C039377FC@emailwf1.jnpr.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Welcome Alia Atlas as RTGWG co-chair Thread-Index: AciVqxG0ylhwdQwnToalIH8JojSFMQ== From: "Ross Callon" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2008 16:57:29.0198 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD09D8E0:01C895AB] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:59:45 -0700 Cc: ZININ Alex , John Scudder , Ross Callon X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0999119334==" Sender: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0999119334== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C895AB.11AACA84" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C895AB.11AACA84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As some of you might have noticed from the working group charter page,=20 Alia Atlas has agreed to help out as WG co-chair, in order to help Alex=20 and John. I am sure that Alia is already familiar to most working group=20 participants through her work in the routing area working group, as well as in the routing area and IETF in general.=20 =20 I would like to thank Alia for being willing to help out.=20 =20 Thanks, Ross (and Dave) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C895AB.11AACA84 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As some of you might have noticed from the working = group charter page,

Alia Atlas has agreed to help out as WG co-chair, in = order to help Alex

and John. I am sure that Alia is already familiar to = most working group

participants through her work in the routing area = working group, as well

as in the routing area and IETF in general. =

I would like to thank Alia for being willing to help = out.

Thanks, Ross (and Dave)

------_=_NextPart_001_01C895AB.11AACA84-- --===============0999119334== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ rtgwg mailing list rtgwg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg --===============0999119334==-- From rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Apr 29 07:46:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-rtgwg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E7828C33A; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:46:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EFD3A6A2F for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:20:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h00+FWUXHLg5 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from audl953.usa.alcatel.com (audl953.usa.alcatel.com [143.209.238.162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C646B3A6846 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usdalsbhs01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com (usdalsbhs01.usa.alcatel.com [172.22.216.19]) by audl953.usa.alcatel.com (ALCANET) with ESMTP id m3T9KgTh002045 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:20:42 -0500 Received: from USDALSMBS02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com ([172.22.216.8]) by usdalsbhs01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:20:42 -0500 Received: from USDALSMBS04.ad3.ad.alcatel.com ([172.22.216.9]) by USDALSMBS02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:20:42 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: IETF-72: agenda items Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:19:41 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IETF-72: agenda items Thread-Index: Acip2ieIaUdjoWpPQ+Gm3Bfi9dqSuQ== From: "ZININ Alex" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Apr 2008 09:20:42.0502 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C1D6A60:01C8A9DA] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 143.209.238.34 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:46:10 -0700 X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Folks- We will have a RTGWG meeting in Dublin. Please send your agenda requests to John, Alia, and myself. Thank you. -- Alex Zinin _______________________________________________ rtgwg mailing list rtgwg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg From rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Apr 29 09:22:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-rtgwg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A8F28C2BD; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:22:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBE13A6E52 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:22:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1CDznBigPnmx for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og111.obsmtp.com (exprod7og111.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.175]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7180528C2BD for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) by exprod7ob111.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:22:24 PDT Received: from magenta.juniper.net ([172.17.27.123]) by emailsmtp55.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:19:57 -0700 Received: from [172.16.13.201] ([172.16.13.201]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id m3TGJux51277 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:19:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgs@juniper.net) Message-Id: <93A312F3-F5AD-478D-BAC1-0D2C477C956F@juniper.net> From: "John G. Scudder" To: rtgwg@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: IETF-72: agenda items Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:19:55 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Apr 2008 16:19:57.0200 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD7BB900:01C8AA14] X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org P.S.: Please also give us an estimate of how much time you think you need. --John On Apr 29, 2008, at 5:19 AM, ZININ Alex wrote: > Folks- > > We will have a RTGWG meeting in Dublin. Please send your agenda > requests to John, Alia, and myself. > > Thank you. > > -- > Alex Zinin _______________________________________________ rtgwg mailing list rtgwg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg From rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Apr 29 13:33:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-rtgwg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4674828C2FC; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:33:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id BFEA83A6DA1; Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:32:59 -0700 (PDT) X-idtracker: yes To: IETF-Announce From: The IESG Subject: Last Call: draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-spec-base (Basic Specification for IP Fast-Reroute: Loop-free Alternates) to Proposed Standard Message-Id: <20080429203259.BFEA83A6DA1@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org The IESG has received a request from the Routing Area Working Group WG (rtgwg) to consider the following document: - 'Basic Specification for IP Fast-Reroute: Loop-free Alternates ' as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2008-05-13. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-spec-base-12.txt IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=12272&rfc_flag=0 _______________________________________________ rtgwg mailing list rtgwg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg From rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 30 03:11:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-rtgwg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2FE28C1BB; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:11:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C76B3A6AFB; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:11:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id geccv9CUY0Ip; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-m25.mx.aol.com (imo-m25.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.6]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B918C28C1BB; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from HeinerHummel@aol.com by imo-m25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id l.c23.36a7df5f (14467); Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:10:58 -0400 (EDT) From: HeinerHummel@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:10:58 EDT Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-spec-base (Basic Specification for IP ... To: ietf@ietf.org, ietf-announce@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5017 Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0284093952==" Sender: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org --===============0284093952== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1209550258" -------------------------------1209550258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Question: Is the accomplishment of this document considered to be the end o= r=20 rather the beginning of activities on the rerouting topic ? =20 Heiner =20 In einer eMail vom 29.04.2008 22:35:53 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt= =20 iesg-secretary@ietf.org: The IESG has received a request from the Routing Area Working Group WG=20 (rtgwg) to consider the following document: - 'Basic Specification for IP Fast-Reroute: Loop-free Alternates ' as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2008-05-13. Exceptionally, =20 comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please =20 retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-spec-base-12.txt IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=3Dview_id&dTag= =3D12272& rfc_flag=3D0 _______________________________________________ rtgwg mailing list rtgwg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg =20 -------------------------------1209550258 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Question: Is the accomplishment of this document considered to be the e= nd=20 or rather the beginning of activities on the rerouting topic ?

Heiner

In einer eMail vom 29.04.2008 22:35:53 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit sch= reibt=20 iesg-secretary@ietf.org:

<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>The IESG=20 has received a request from the Routing Area Working Group WG
(rtgwg)=20= to=20 consider the following document:

- 'Basic Specification for IP=20 Fast-Reroute: Loop-free Alternates '
=20 <draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-spec-base-12.txt> as a Proposed=20 Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, a= nd=20 solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive=20 comments to the
ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2008-05-13. Exceptionall= y,=20
comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please=20
retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated=20 sorting.

The file can be obtained=20 via
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-spec-bas= e-12.txt

IESG=20 discussion can be tracked=20 via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=3Dview_i= d&dTag=3D12272&rfc_flag=3D0

_________________________________= ______________
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rtgwg@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg
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-------------------------------1209550258-- --===============0284093952== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ rtgwg mailing list rtgwg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg --===============0284093952==-- From rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 30 05:40:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-rtgwg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624D83A6E2E; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:40:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFA23A6917; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:40:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qe2O+l1TMahf; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DC73A6B72; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:40:46 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,728,1199660400"; d="scan'208";a="7722871" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2008 14:40:48 +0200 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m3UCemkN028558; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:40:48 +0200 Received: from dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-18.cisco.com (dhcp-gpk02-vlan300-64-103-65-18.cisco.com [64.103.65.18]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m3UCemPx012293; Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:40:48 GMT Message-ID: <481868CF.3010407@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:40:47 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HeinerHummel@aol.com Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-spec-base (Basic Specification for IP ... References: In-Reply-To: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1655; t=1209559248; x=1210423248; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=stbryant@cisco.com; z=From:=20Stewart=20Bryant=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20Last=20Call=3A=20draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr -spec-base=20(Basic=20Specification=0A=20for=20IP=20... |Sender:=20; bh=iYFLOd3/d7L3bAAOsr2L7jjefP9ehNuIBOz597Vo8cw=; b=Z5mN1q24ssK2eWiDHjFIDIU/+jwbv0X4UHwONm/y6gYl7fanrFWo/nUHlH KHNCdhMJTUPh/Uj2n4tk33Emr/yX5PSDQhtJekyuyAFlEVuWRYqR5WcfwXXK wVKVokauYm; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=stbryant@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim2001 verified; ); Cc: ietf@ietf.org, ietf-announce@ietf.org, rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Beginning Stewart HeinerHummel@aol.com wrote: > Question: Is the accomplishment of this document considered to be the = > end or rather the beginning of activities on the rerouting topic ? > = > Heiner > = > In einer eMail vom 29.04.2008 22:35:53 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit = > schreibt iesg-secretary@ietf.org: > > The IESG has received a request from the Routing Area Working > Group WG > (rtgwg) to consider the following document: > > - 'Basic Specification for IP Fast-Reroute: Loop-free Alternates ' > as a Proposed Standard > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits > final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments > to the > ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2008-05-13. Exceptionally, > comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. 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To: stbryant@cisco.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5017 Cc: ietf@ietf.org, ietf-announce@ietf.org, rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0723445456==" Sender: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org --===============0723445456== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1209568898" -------------------------------1209568898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Sounds good. But let me also suggest that this group does also participate in the RRG=20 activities: I know how badly the orthogonality between intra- and inter-domain routing =20 hampers rerouting. Unfortunately this is a severe obstacle we have to live with, given the=20 current link-state versus distance vector paradigms. But when research (no= t=20 engineering) for a future architecture is in stake, such anachronism should= be=20 overcome. =20 IBM TV-commercials show truckers, lost in the dessert, who suggest to ask =20 their transport goods where they were. IMO, routers shouldn't get in similar= =20 trouble as to ask the Google-map application they are just servicing :-) =20 Heiner =20 =20 In einer eMail vom 30.04.2008 14:40:56 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt= =20 stbryant@cisco.com: Beginning Stewart HeinerHummel@aol.com wrote: > Question: Is the accomplishment of this document considered to be the=20 > end or rather the beginning of activities on the rerouting topic ? > =20 > Heiner > =20 > In einer eMail vom 29.04.2008 22:35:53 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit=20 > schreibt iesg-secretary@ietf.org: > > The IESG has received a request from the Routing Area Working > Group WG > (rtgwg) to consider the following document: > > - 'Basic Specification for IP Fast-Reroute: Loop-free Alternates ' > as a Proposed Standard > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits > final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments > to the > ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2008-05-13. Exceptionally, > comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please > retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. > > The file can be obtained via > =20 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-spec-base-12.txt > > > IESG discussion can be tracked via > =20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=3Dview_id&dTag= =3D12272&rfc_flag=3D0 > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > > =20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > =20 =20 -------------------------------1209568898 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sounds good.

But let me also suggest that this group does also participate in t= he=20 RRG activities:

I know how badly the orthogonality between intra- and inter-domain rout= ing=20 hampers rerouting.

Unfortunately this is a severe obstacle we have to=20 live with, given the current link-state versus distance vector =20 paradigms. But when research (not engineering) for a future architecture is=20= in=20 stake, such anachronism should be overcome.

IBM TV-commercials show truckers, lost in the dessert, who suggest to a= sk=20 their transport goods where they were. IMO, routers shouldn't get in similar= =20 trouble as to ask the Google-map application they are just servicing :-)

Heiner

In einer eMail vom 30.04.2008 14:40:56 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit sch= reibt=20 stbryant@cisco.com:

<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Beginning

Stewart

HeinerHummel@aol.com wrote:>=20 Question: Is the accomplishment of this document considered to be the
= >=20 end or rather the beginning of activities on the rerouting topic=20 ?
>
> Heiner
>
> In einer eMail vom=20 29.04.2008 22:35:53 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit
> schreibt=20 iesg-secretary@ietf.org:
>
>    The IESG has=20 received a request from the Routing Area Working
>   = ;=20 Group WG
>    (rtgwg) to consider the following=20 document:
>
>    - 'Basic Specification for IP= =20 Fast-Reroute: Loop-free Alternates '
> =20 <draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-spec-base-12.txt> as a Proposed=20 Standard
>
>    The IESG plans to make a decis= ion=20 in the next few weeks, and solicits
>    final comme= nts=20 on this action. Please send substantive comments
> =20    to the
>    ietf@ietf.org mailing lists= by=20 2008-05-13. Exceptionally,
>    comments may be sent= to=20 iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please
>   =20 retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated=20 sorting.
>
>    The file can be obtained=20 via
>   =20 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-spec-base-12.tx= t
>
>
> =20    IESG discussion can be tracked via
>   = =20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=3Dview_id&d= Tag=3D12272&rfc_flag=3D0
>
> =20    _______________________________________________
> = =20    rtgwg mailing list
>   =20 rtgwg@ietf.org
>   =20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg
>
>
>= =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------>
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> rtgwg@ietf.org
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