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------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C6BA05.940360D0-- --===============2013727138== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ rtgwg mailing list rtgwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg --===============2013727138==-- From rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Wed Aug 30 16:14:42 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIWRx-0005Ow-0x; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:14:13 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIWRw-0005Or-47 for rtgwg@ietf.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:14:12 -0400 Received: from eunet-gw.ipv6.netcore.fi ([2001:670:86:3001::1] helo=netcore.fi) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIWRu-0003ki-0m for rtgwg@ietf.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:14:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (pekkas@localhost) by netcore.fi (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k7UKE4MZ023443 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:14:04 +0300 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:14:04 +0300 (EEST) From: Pekka Savola To: rtgwg@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/1761/Tue Aug 29 21:58:36 2006 on otso.netcore.fi X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_RELAYS,TW_GW autolearn=failed version=3.1.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on otso.netcore.fi X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Subject: GTSMbis revived X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: rtgwg.ietf.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Hello all, GTSMbis document has been revived. I'm currently holding the pen, and comments would be appreciated. It should include all the comments received so far. The most important changes: - Reduce multi-hop scenario (TrustRadius etc.) to only a mention in the appendix - GTSM procedure text rewritten based on Alex's suggestions - require that also TCP RSTs, ICMP errors, etc. that relate to a GTSM service must be sent with TTL=255. - require that TTL of originated GTSM traffic must not be decremented by the forwarding engine. - Update the security considerations on tunneling. Comments on these changes would particularly appreciated. Abstract The use of a packet's Time to Live (TTL) (IPv4) or Hop Limit (IPv6) to verify whether the packet originated within the same link has been used in many recent protocols. This document generalizes this technique. This document obsoletes RFC 3682. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rtgwg-rfc3682bis-06.txt -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings _______________________________________________ rtgwg mailing list rtgwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg From rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org Wed Aug 30 16:15:58 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIWTT-0006nr-NL; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:15:47 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIWTS-0006nV-5e for rtgwg@ietf.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:15:46 -0400 Received: from m106.maoz.com ([205.167.76.9]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIWTQ-0003x8-PL for rtgwg@ietf.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:15:46 -0400 Received: from m106.maoz.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by m106.maoz.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7UKFipf022373; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:15:44 -0700 Received: (from dmm@localhost) by m106.maoz.com (8.13.6/8.12.11/Submit) id k7UKFiob022372; Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:15:44 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: m106.maoz.com: dmm set sender to dmm@1-4-5.net using -f Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:15:44 -0700 From: David Meyer To: Pekka Savola Message-ID: <20060830201544.GA22363@1-4-5.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-public-key: http://www.1-4-5.net/~dmm/public-key.asc X-gpg-fingerprint: 2409 8B50 B389 A307 BA5C 2A16 3918 03D6 A099 D8A7 X-philosophy: "I find your lack of faith disturbing." -- Darth Vader, Star Wars Episode IV. X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0a7aa2e6e558383d84476dc338324fab Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: GTSMbis revived X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: rtgwg.ietf.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1203865444==" Errors-To: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org --===============1203865444== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Pekka. Much appreciated. --dmm On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 11:14:04PM +0300, Pekka Savola wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > GTSMbis document has been revived. I'm currently holding the pen, and=20 > comments would be appreciated. It should include all the comments=20 > received so far. >=20 > The most important changes: > - Reduce multi-hop scenario (TrustRadius etc.) to only a mention in=20 > the appendix > - GTSM procedure text rewritten based on Alex's suggestions > - require that also TCP RSTs, ICMP errors, etc. that relate to a GTSM=20 > service must be sent with TTL=3D255. > - require that TTL of originated GTSM traffic must not be decremented=20 > by the forwarding engine. > - Update the security considerations on tunneling. >=20 > Comments on these changes would particularly appreciated. >=20 > Abstract >=20 > The use of a packet's Time to Live (TTL) (IPv4) or Hop Limit (IPv6) > to verify whether the packet originated within the same link has been > used in many recent protocols. This document generalizes this > technique. This document obsoletes RFC 3682. >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rtgwg-rfc3682bis-06.txt >=20 > --=20 > Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the > Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." > Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. 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