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------_=_NextPart_001_01C25410.BD8846F0-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 4 13:02:42 2002 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA10357 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:02:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA21773 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:57:34 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) id MAA21587 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <116DB56CD7DED511BC7800508B2CA53735CD7F@mailsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com> From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'Wagner,William'" , pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> RE: SantaFe PWG Plenary [Web Svcs Device Mgmt] Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:55:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org Hi folks, Wednesday (4 September 2002) The topic of a new Web Services Device Management standard interface was raised in the PWG Plenary last week (see the excerpt from Bill Wagner's minutes below). Important related work is the following paper, written by Randy Presuhn (SNMPv3 revisions editor): ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-presuhn-nmwebdav-00.txt - "Applying WebDAV (Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning) to Network Configuration Management Problems" (31 May 2002) Note that WebDAV has distinct advantages over new-from-scratch solutions (like a Web Services SOAP-based approach): a) WebDAV supports very powerful version control and distributed authoring (i.e., keeping track of who made the last changes); b) WebDAV is content-neutral (i.e., it will store and manage network configuration information in any format) - WebDAV is NOT locked into one single device management schema (e.g., DMTF CIM schema); c) WebDAV is widely deployed and widely supported (including by various Microsoft tools). Cheers, - Ira McDonald High North Inc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Excerpts from "Applying WebDAV to Network Configuration Mgmt Problems"] Abstract This memo examines the potential of using WWW Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) technologies to address the problems of network configuration management. It reviews requirements and issues that have been identified in IETF network configuration management and operator requirements discussions, matching these requirements and issues with various WebDAV facilities. It concludes by identifying areas for further exploration. Comments are welcomed, both from the Operations and Management Area in general, and from participants in the webdav and deltav working groups in particular. Please send comments to the author at randy_presuhn@bmc.com. 1. Introduction Since the appearance of [OpsReq], there has been considerable debate in the Operations and Management Area about how to address these operator requirements, particularly for the configuration of network equipment. Although [ConfBcp] work does a good job of describing current practices, there is clearly a significant disconnect between this work, the requirements in [OpsReq], and the current state of the art of configuration management in other domains, such as software engineering or technical publications. This document does not attempt to solve all the interesting problems described in [OpsReq] and [ConfBcp]. It focuses on the "distributed database" aspects of the problem, and shows how existing IETF specifications can be used to address this problem. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Excerpt from PWG Plenary minutes from Santa Fe (27 August 2002)] 6.1 WEB Services Device Management Harry Lewis suggested that there should be a standardization effort to define improved device management based upon Web services. The advantage of this approach over SNMP is the ability to use a common protocol for platform-independent management applications, both intra and extra enterprise. Further, device management via the Internet would allow: - Central management services by the manufacturer or supplier - Well-established equipment leasing services to support small and distributed resource environments as well as large centralized enterprise installations - Corporate MIS groups to support small branch offices - Follow the sun support services - 24 hour help desk manned by agents around the globe, each working normal hours Management includes both monitoring and setting equipment parameters, and potentially providing for firmware updates. The first task of the groups would be to investigate what other groups have done in the area, including: - IETF XML- config group - Progress of an IETF BOF to find a better equipment management approach than the command line interface with home grown parsing tools that appears to be the norm - W3C activity - device management effort - OASIS & CIM Who would be interested? - Elliott Bradshaw - Harry Lewis and - Bill Wagner offered to do initial work in the area. Initial discussion would be on the PWG reflector. A new mailing list for this effort would be setup and identified on the PWG Announce list. From pmp-owner@pwg.org Tue Sep 17 18:46:21 2002 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA03022 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:46:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id SAA02219 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:47:24 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) id SAA02136 for pmp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <116DB56CD7DED511BC7800508B2CA53735CDA2@mailsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com> From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'Juergen Schoenwaelder'" , Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com, bwijnen@lucent.com, dbh@enterasys.com, harryl@us.ibm.com, "McDonald, Ira" , paf@cisco.com, ned.freed@mrochek.com, pmp@pwg.org, fin@pwg.org Subject: PMP> RE: Printer/Finisher MIB and IANA enumerations Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:44:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pmp-owner@pwg.org Hi Juergen, Thanks for your excellent feedback. Your timing is perfect! Last week, Ron Bergman and I concluded that all type 2 and type 3 textual conventions should be moved into such a separate IANA-Printer-Types-MIB (like the HOST-RESOURCES-TYPES-MIB in RFC 2790). We plan to do this before the next draft - so we will wind up with three SMIv2 source modules for Printer MIB: 1) Printer-MIB itself 2) IANA-Charset-MIB for the 'IANACharset' TC (improved name per feedback from the IETF Charsets Registry mailing list) 3) IANA-Printer-Types-MIB for type2/type3 enums Should we use all uppercase for the two IANA-maintained modules? More recent IETF 'standards track' MIBs seem to do so. We've also identified _one_ textual convention 'PrtAlertGroupTC' which should be changed from type 1 (requires republication of entire Printer MIB) to type 2 (IANA maintained). Because the Finisher MIB had to add enums to this TC several years ago. Else, any more new Finisher MIB object groups would require republication of the Printer MIB (a mistake in our opinion). We will also (per Bert Wijnen's request) insert the 'Prt' suffix into our two recently added localized string TCs: - 'PrtLocalizedDescriptionStringTC' - 'PrtConsoleDescriptionStringTC' (my mistake this wasn't done originally). One textual convention 'PresentOnOff' we plan to leave with the current (original RFC 1759) name and no 'Prt' prefix. Because the Finisher MIB uses it (unmodified) already. And a number of vendor private MIBs import it (I used it in the Xerox enterprise MIB modules for years). Should we fix the name (add 'Prt' prefix) of this last TC? We will also fix every one of the problems that Bert Wijnen identified in his recent 24-page email on 'difftool' output. Cheers, - Ira McDonald, co-editor of Printer MIB v2 High North Inc -----Original Message----- From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 4:32 PM To: Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com; bwijnen@lucent.com; dbh@enterasys.com; harryl@us.ibm.com; imcdonald@sharplabs.com; paf@cisco.com; ned.freed@mrochek.com; pmp@pwg.org; fin@pwg.org Subject: Printer/Finisher MIB and IANA enumerations I have done some more work on my Printer-MIB implementation and I stumbled over the type 1, 2 and 3 enumerations. Section 2.4.1 says: : 2.4.1 Registering Additional Enumerated Values : : This working group has defined several type of enumerations. These : enumerations differ in the method employed to control the addition of : new enumerations. Throughout this document, references to : "enumeration (n)", where n can be 1, 2 or 3 can be found in the : various tables. The definitions of these types of enumerations are: : : enumeration (1) All the values are defined in the Printer MIB : specification (RFC for the Printer MIB). Additional enumerated : values require a new RFC. : : enumeration (2) An initial set of values are defined in the : Printer MIB specification. Additional enumerated values are : registered after review by this working group. The initial : versions of the MIB will contain the values registered so far. : After the MIB is approved, additional values will be registered : through IANA after approval by this working group. : : enumeration (3) An initial set of values are defined in the : Printer MIB specification. Additional enumerated values are : registered without working group review. The initial versions of : the MIB will contain the values registered so far. After the MIB : is approved, additional values will be registered through IANA : without approval by this working group. So this sounds like all type 2 and type 3 enumerations are in fact under IANA control. In fact, IANA already maintains an informal list for the printer languages: http://www.iana.org/assignments/printer-language-numbers I think the right thing to do here is actually to handle the type 2 and type 3 enumerations in exactly the way you handle the charset textual convention so that IANA can update a proper MIB module which the printer/finisher MIB import. In other words, I propose to move the type 2 TCs PrtGeneralResetTC, PrtMarkerSuppliesTypeTC, prtGeneralReset and the type 3 TCs PrtCoverStatusTC, PrtChannelTypeTC, PrtInterpreterLangFamilyTC, PrtInputTypeTC, PrtOutputTypeTC, PrtMarkerMarkTechTC, PrtMediaPathTypeTC, PrtConsoleColorTC, PrtConsoleDisableTC, PrtAlertTrainingLevelTC, PrtAlertCodeTC into an IANA maintained module, e.g. the IANA-PRINTER-MIB. (I hope I did not mis one.) This way, there is no cut&paste needed when updating to the latest set of assigned values and IANA can use the SMIv2 module identity macro to allow others to track changes. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder From pmp-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 18 12:52:37 2002 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA20991 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:52:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA04694 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:53:22 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) id MAA04649 for pmp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:53:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <116DB56CD7DED511BC7800508B2CA53735CDA5@mailsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com> From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'" , Juergen Schoenwaelder , "McDonald, Ira" Cc: Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com, dbh@enterasys.com, harryl@us.ibm.com, "McDonald, Ira" , paf@cisco.com, ned.freed@mrochek.com, pmp@pwg.org, fin@pwg.org Subject: PMP> RE: Printer/Finisher MIB and IANA enumerations Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:51:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pmp-owner@pwg.org Hi Bert and Juergen, My apologies. Ron has already correctly restored _all_ of the original RFC 1759 textual conventions with status DEPRECATED immediately below each new 'Prt...' TC (so seeing the relation is easy) in his next working draft (soon to be released). Ron had intended to follow Bert's and Dave Harrington's advice not to remove any previously defined (RFC 1759) textual convention. And we prefer to use DEPRECATED (rather than OBSOLETE) because we wish to recognize that implementations or Printer MIB v1 (RFC 1759) continue to be used and are the basis of most OS vendor and tools vendor monitoring of network printers, at present. Thanks to all of you for keeping us straight on SMIv2 best practice. Cheers, - Ira McDonald High North Inc -----Original Message----- From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:59 AM To: Juergen Schoenwaelder; imcdonald@sharplabs.com Cc: Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com; bwijnen@lucent.com; dbh@enterasys.com; harryl@us.ibm.com; imcdonald@sharplabs.com; paf@cisco.com; ned.freed@mrochek.com; pmp@pwg.org; fin@pwg.org Subject: RE: Printer/Finisher MIB and IANA enumerations > Ira> Should we fix the name (add 'Prt' prefix) of this last TC? > > If you think consistency is important and you want people to use the > Prt* TCs,, you can can formally introduce a PrtPresentOnOff TC with > STATUS current while leaving the old PresentOnOff TC with STATUS > deprecated in the MIB. This way, nothing breaks and you can transition > to all prefixed TCs. > As a matter of fact, to better follow the SMI rules, the old non-prefixed TCs probably should all have stayed in the MIB with status deprecated. Or possibly even obsoleted if you want to give stronger message for people to switch to the new TCs. Bert > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder From pmp-owner@pwg.org Fri Sep 20 14:32:16 2002 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA03554 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA15181 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:32:58 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) id OAA15122 for pmp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <116DB56CD7DED511BC7800508B2CA53735CDAB@mailsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com> From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'Juergen Schoenwaelder'" , "McDonald, Ira" Cc: Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com, bwijnen@lucent.com, dbh@enterasys.com, harryl@us.ibm.com, "McDonald, Ira" , paf@cisco.com, ned.freed@mrochek.com, pmp@pwg.org, fin@pwg.org Subject: PMP> RE: [Addressability] one more printer mib question Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:30:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pmp-owner@pwg.org Hi Juergen, Oops! Good question. I would say use the Marker row specified by 'prtMarkerDefaultIndex' in the 'prtGeneralTable'. But we sure ought to specify this in the descriptions of the two 'prtInterpreterTable' columnar objects. Right? Further, it's not meaningful (and SHOULD NOT be done) to have different addressability units for different markers or interpreters in the same instance of the Printer MIB, in my humble opinion. Cheers, - Ira McDonald, co-editor of Printer MIB v2 High North Inc -----Original Message----- From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 6:48 AM To: McDonald, Ira Cc: Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com; bwijnen@lucent.com; dbh@enterasys.com; harryl@us.ibm.com; McDonald, Ira; paf@cisco.com; ned.freed@mrochek.com; pmp@pwg.org; fin@pwg.org Subject: one more printer mib question The descriptions of prtInterpreterFeedAddressability and prtInterpreterXFeedAddressability say: prtInterpreterFeedAddressability OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX Integer32 (-2..2147483647) MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "The maximum interpreter addressability in the feed direction in 10000 prtMarkerAddressabilityUnits (see prtMarkerAddressabilityFeedDir ) for this interpreter. The value (-1) means other and specifically indicates that the sub- unit places no restrictions on this parameter." ::= { prtInterpreterEntry 8 } prtInterpreterXFeedAddressability OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX Integer32 (-2..2147483647) MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "The maximum interpreter addressability in the cross feed direction in 10000 prtMarkerAddressabilityUnits (see prtMarkerAddressabilityXFeedDir) for this interpreter. The value (-1) means other and specifically indicates that the sub- unit places no restrictions on this parameter." ::= { prtInterpreterEntry 9 } Which instance of prtMarkerAddressabilityUnits do I use for a given prtInterpreterFeedAddressability or prtInterpreterXFeedAddressability instance? /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder From pmp-owner@pwg.org Fri Sep 20 19:05:42 2002 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA13418 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:05:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id TAA16404 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:06:51 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) id TAA16269 for pmp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 19:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <116DB56CD7DED511BC7800508B2CA53735CDAF@mailsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com> From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'Juergen Schoenwaelder'" , "McDonald, Ira" Cc: "McDonald, Ira" , Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com, bwijnen@lucent.com, dbh@enterasys.com, harryl@us.ibm.com, paf@cisco.com, ned.freed@mrochek.com, pmp@pwg.org, fin@pwg.org Subject: PMP> RE: [Addressability] one more printer mib question Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 16:05:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: pmp-owner@pwg.org Hi Juergen, While you're correct that we should define another column in 'prtInterpreterTable' to disambiguate this units problem, that's not very practical. The actual objects (very few) newly defined in Printer MIB v2 have all been stable for four or five years. Several printer vendors have been shipping full Printer MIB v2 implementations for two or three years. The tools all understand the current objects in Printer MIB v2. Adding an object now would be unpopular in the extreme. Vendors - is adding a new column to 'prtInterpreterTable' (the technically correct solution) acceptable? Ron and Harry - I'm personally ambivalent about this issue. Juergen has uncovered a non-trivial bug in the Printer MIB (v1 and v2). Cheers, - Ira McDonald, co-editor of Printer MIB v2 High North Inc -----Original Message----- From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 5:05 PM To: imcdonald@sharplabs.com Cc: imcdonald@sharplabs.com; Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com; bwijnen@lucent.com; dbh@enterasys.com; harryl@us.ibm.com; imcdonald@sharplabs.com; paf@cisco.com; ned.freed@mrochek.com; pmp@pwg.org; fin@pwg.org Subject: Re: [Addressability] one more printer mib question >>>>> McDonald, Ira writes: Ira> Oops! Good question. I would say use the Marker row specified Ira> by 'prtMarkerDefaultIndex' in the 'prtGeneralTable'. Are you sure this is always and necessarily the right marker? Ira> But we sure ought to specify this in the descriptions of the two Ira> 'prtInterpreterTable' columnar objects. Right? What ever the answer is, it should be documented. As far as I am concerned, I would like to see another column prtInterpreterFeedAddressabilityUnit added to the prtInterpreterTable and the need for looking up the unit in some other places just goes away. Ira> Further, it's not meaningful (and SHOULD NOT be done) to have Ira> different addressability units for different markers or Ira> interpreters in the same instance of the Printer MIB, in my Ira> humble opinion. Right now, the MIB seems to allow for it and hence I try to allow for this in my management application... /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 25 11:23:17 2002 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA29325 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA27691 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:19:14 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) id LAA27511 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:19:10 -0400 (EDT) From: a.s.patel@ieee.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Preliminary Details: November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting--New Orleans, LA To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Cc: r.saravia@ieee.org, s.nordell@ieee.org, c.tiritilli@ieee.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:18:50 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Buzz/US/IEEE(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 09/25/2002 11:18:50 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org Greetings All, The arrangements have been finalized for the upcoming November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting in New Orleans, LA as follows: When: Monday - Friday November 4-8, 2002 Where: Bourbon Orleans, A Wyndham Historic Hotel 717 Orleans Street New Orleans, Louisiana 70116 http://www.wyndham.com/hotels/MSYBO/main.wnt Hotel Accomodations: *** Room block will be opened/available Friday, September 27, 2002.*** US$139.00/night (plus 13% tax, $1/room per night occupancy tax), single or double occupancy. All attendees are responsible for making their own hotel reservations. Please ask for the "The Printer Working Group" to get the negotiated sleeping room rate. Rooms are being held for the nights of Sunday, November 3, 2002-Friday, November 8, 2002. *** Please contact Ami Patel at a.s.patel@ieee.org if for any reason you are unable to obtain the negotiated room rate. *** Deadline: Please call the reservation hotling toll-free at +1-800-996-3426 or local number +1-504-523-2222 to make your reservations. Please make sleeping room reservations by Thursday, October 10, 2002. Tentative Meeting Schedule: Monday, November 4, 2002: - UPnP (Morning) - Print/Scan (Afternoon) Tuesday, November 5, 2002: - Plenary (Morning) - XHTML (Afternoon) Wednesday, November 6, 2002: - Print Services Interface (PSI) Thursday, November 7, 2002: - PWG Semantic Model Friday, November 8, 2002: - UPDF (Morning) - IFX (Afternoon) The PWG Meeting Registration Form is in the process of being posted, and will be available early next week at https://www.ieee-isto.org/pwg/registration.html The cost for daily meeting attendance is US$45.00 per day. (Payments are processed on the first day of the meeting series.) Participants are responsible for their own lunch. Please contact Cindy Tiritilli, IEEE-ISTO PWG Program Manager at +1-732-981-3434 or Ami Patel, IEEE-ISTO PWG Administrative Assistant at +1-732-465-6477 if you have any questions. Regards, ********************************************** Ami Patel IEEE-ISTO c/o The Printer Working Group Administrative Assistant Phone: 732 465 6477 Fax: 651-318-7292 email: a.s.patel@ieee.org *********************************************** From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 25 14:56:27 2002 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA06613 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA01090 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:53:43 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) id OAA00909 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:53:39 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Preliminary Details: November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting--New Orleans, LA Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:53:17 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Preliminary Details: November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting--New Orleans, LA Thread-Index: AcJkquTu99hJtdNzSSO+Jv4VUyxDRQAGV2dg From: "Farrell, Lee" To: Cc: , , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pwg.org id OAA00906 Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fyi, I just called for hotel reservations. The hotel's [direct] reservation service is closed -- they are preparing for the hurricane. "Maybe tomorrow?" Unfortunately, the central reservation service claims that the Printer Working Group rate has not yet been posted. Strike two. -----Original Message----- From: a.s.patel@ieee.org [mailto:a.s.patel@ieee.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:19 AM To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Cc: r.saravia@ieee.org; s.nordell@ieee.org; c.tiritilli@ieee.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Preliminary Details: November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting--New Orleans, LA Greetings All, The arrangements have been finalized for the upcoming November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting in New Orleans, LA as follows: When: Monday - Friday November 4-8, 2002 Where: Bourbon Orleans, A Wyndham Historic Hotel 717 Orleans Street New Orleans, Louisiana 70116 http://www.wyndham.com/hotels/MSYBO/main.wnt Hotel Accomodations: *** Room block will be opened/available Friday, September 27, 2002.*** US$139.00/night (plus 13% tax, $1/room per night occupancy tax), single or double occupancy. All attendees are responsible for making their own hotel reservations. Please ask for the "The Printer Working Group" to get the negotiated sleeping room rate. Rooms are being held for the nights of Sunday, November 3, 2002-Friday, November 8, 2002. *** Please contact Ami Patel at a.s.patel@ieee.org if for any reason you are unable to obtain the negotiated room rate. *** Deadline: Please call the reservation hotling toll-free at +1-800-996-3426 or local number +1-504-523-2222 to make your reservations. Please make sleeping room reservations by Thursday, October 10, 2002. Tentative Meeting Schedule: Monday, November 4, 2002: - UPnP (Morning) - Print/Scan (Afternoon) Tuesday, November 5, 2002: - Plenary (Morning) - XHTML (Afternoon) Wednesday, November 6, 2002: - Print Services Interface (PSI) Thursday, November 7, 2002: - PWG Semantic Model Friday, November 8, 2002: - UPDF (Morning) - IFX (Afternoon) The PWG Meeting Registration Form is in the process of being posted, and will be available early next week at https://www.ieee-isto.org/pwg/registration.html The cost for daily meeting attendance is US$45.00 per day. (Payments are processed on the first day of the meeting series.) Participants are responsible for their own lunch. Please contact Cindy Tiritilli, IEEE-ISTO PWG Program Manager at +1-732-981-3434 or Ami Patel, IEEE-ISTO PWG Administrative Assistant at +1-732-465-6477 if you have any questions. Regards, ********************************************** Ami Patel IEEE-ISTO c/o The Printer Working Group Administrative Assistant Phone: 732 465 6477 Fax: 651-318-7292 email: a.s.patel@ieee.org *********************************************** From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Sep 25 15:01:12 2002 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA06750 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA01521 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:00:28 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) id PAA01244 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:00:25 -0400 (EDT) From: a.s.patel@ieee.org Subject: RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Preliminary Details: November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting--New Orleans, LA To: "Farrell, Lee" Cc: c.tiritilli@ieee.org, owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org, pwg-announce@pwg.org, r.saravia@ieee.org, s.nordell@ieee.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:59:57 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Buzz/US/IEEE(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 09/25/2002 03:00:02 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org Hi Mr. Farrell, The room block does not open until Friday, September 27, 2002. If you have any other questions please do not hesitate to contact me. With Kind Regards, ********************************************** Ami Patel IEEE-ISTO c/o The Printer Working Group Administrative Assistant Phone: 732 465 6477 Fax: 651-318-7292 email: aspatel@ieee.org *********************************************** "Farrell, Lee" canon.com> cc: , , Sent by: owner-pwg-announc Subject: RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Preliminary Details: November 4-8, 2002 e@pwg.org PWG Meeting--New Orleans, LA 09/25/2002 02:53 PM Fyi, I just called for hotel reservations. The hotel's [direct] reservation service is closed -- they are preparing for the hurricane. "Maybe tomorrow?" Unfortunately, the central reservation service claims that the Printer Working Group rate has not yet been posted. Strike two. -----Original Message----- From: a.s.patel@ieee.org [mailto:a.s.patel@ieee.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:19 AM To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Cc: r.saravia@ieee.org; s.nordell@ieee.org; c.tiritilli@ieee.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Preliminary Details: November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting--New Orleans, LA Greetings All, The arrangements have been finalized for the upcoming November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting in New Orleans, LA as follows: When: Monday - Friday November 4-8, 2002 Where: Bourbon Orleans, A Wyndham Historic Hotel 717 Orleans Street New Orleans, Louisiana 70116 http://www.wyndham.com/hotels/MSYBO/main.wnt Hotel Accomodations: *** Room block will be opened/available Friday, September 27, 2002.*** US$139.00/night (plus 13% tax, $1/room per night occupancy tax), single or double occupancy. All attendees are responsible for making their own hotel reservations. Please ask for the "The Printer Working Group" to get the negotiated sleeping room rate. Rooms are being held for the nights of Sunday, November 3, 2002-Friday, November 8, 2002. *** Please contact Ami Patel at a.s.patel@ieee.org if for any reason you are unable to obtain the negotiated room rate. *** Deadline: Please call the reservation hotling toll-free at +1-800-996-3426 or local number +1-504-523-2222 to make your reservations. Please make sleeping room reservations by Thursday, October 10, 2002. Tentative Meeting Schedule: Monday, November 4, 2002: - UPnP (Morning) - Print/Scan (Afternoon) Tuesday, November 5, 2002: - Plenary (Morning) - XHTML (Afternoon) Wednesday, November 6, 2002: - Print Services Interface (PSI) Thursday, November 7, 2002: - PWG Semantic Model Friday, November 8, 2002: - UPDF (Morning) - IFX (Afternoon) The PWG Meeting Registration Form is in the process of being posted, and will be available early next week at https://www.ieee-isto.org/pwg/registration.html The cost for daily meeting attendance is US$45.00 per day. (Payments are processed on the first day of the meeting series.) Participants are responsible for their own lunch. Please contact Cindy Tiritilli, IEEE-ISTO PWG Program Manager at +1-732-981-3434 or Ami Patel, IEEE-ISTO PWG Administrative Assistant at +1-732-465-6477 if you have any questions. Regards, ********************************************** Ami Patel IEEE-ISTO c/o The Printer Working Group Administrative Assistant Phone: 732 465 6477 Fax: 651-318-7292 email: a.s.patel@ieee.org *********************************************** From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Thu Sep 26 10:39:20 2002 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA09510 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id KAA10422 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:37:37 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.2) id KAA10243 for pwg-announce-outgoing; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:37:32 -0400 (EDT) To: pwG-announce@pwg.org Cc: c.tiritilli@ieee.org, r.saravia@ieee.org, s.nordell@ieee.org, a.s.patel@ieee.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Preliminary Details: November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting--New Orleans, LA X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 From: "Harry Lewis" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:37:20 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM801/03/M/IBM(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 09/26/2002 08:37:22 AM, Serialize complete at 09/26/2002 08:37:22 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org Minor correction - there will be breakouts on Friday so the IFX and UPDF meetings can run in parallel. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM Printing Systems ---------------------------------------------- a.s.patel@ieee.org Sent by: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org 09/25/2002 09:18 AM To: pwg-announce@pwg.org cc: r.saravia@ieee.org, s.nordell@ieee.org, c.tiritilli@ieee.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Preliminary Details: November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting--New Orleans, LA Greetings All, The arrangements have been finalized for the upcoming November 4-8, 2002 PWG Meeting in New Orleans, LA as follows: When: Monday - Friday November 4-8, 2002 Where: Bourbon Orleans, A Wyndham Historic Hotel 717 Orleans Street New Orleans, Louisiana 70116 http://www.wyndham.com/hotels/MSYBO/main.wnt Hotel Accomodations: *** Room block will be opened/available Friday, September 27, 2002.*** US$139.00/night (plus 13% tax, $1/room per night occupancy tax), single or double occupancy. All attendees are responsible for making their own hotel reservations. Please ask for the "The Printer Working Group" to get the negotiated sleeping room rate. Rooms are being held for the nights of Sunday, November 3, 2002-Friday, November 8, 2002. *** Please contact Ami Patel at a.s.patel@ieee.org if for any reason you are unable to obtain the negotiated room rate. *** Deadline: Please call the reservation hotling toll-free at +1-800-996-3426 or local number +1-504-523-2222 to make your reservations. Please make sleeping room reservations by Thursday, October 10, 2002. Tentative Meeting Schedule: Monday, November 4, 2002: - UPnP (Morning) - Print/Scan (Afternoon) Tuesday, November 5, 2002: - Plenary (Morning) - XHTML (Afternoon) Wednesday, November 6, 2002: - Print Services Interface (PSI) Thursday, November 7, 2002: - PWG Semantic Model Friday, November 8, 2002: - UPDF (Morning) - IFX (Afternoon) The PWG Meeting Registration Form is in the process of being posted, and will be available early next week at https://www.ieee-isto.org/pwg/registration.html The cost for daily meeting attendance is US$45.00 per day. (Payments are processed on the first day of the meeting series.) Participants are responsible for their own lunch. Please contact Cindy Tiritilli, IEEE-ISTO PWG Program Manager at +1-732-981-3434 or Ami Patel, IEEE-ISTO PWG Administrative Assistant at +1-732-465-6477 if you have any questions. Regards, ********************************************** Ami Patel IEEE-ISTO c/o The Printer Working Group Administrative Assistant Phone: 732 465 6477 Fax: 651-318-7292 email: a.s.patel@ieee.org ***********************************************