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From pim-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 10 09:30:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058CE3A69A6; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:30:10 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930273A69A6 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:30:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.76 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.76 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.280, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IP_ADDR=1.119] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uu2i5OyhC8or for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [IPv6:2001:700:1::eecb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FB23A63EC for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 09:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [158.38.160.252] (dhcp252.venaas.no [158.38.160.252]) by tyholt.uninett.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40A22BACD9 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:29:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <493FFCFC.2020800@uninett.no> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:31:40 +0100 From: Stig Venaas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pim@ietf.org Subject: [pim] rpf-vector draft, Informational or PS? X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: pim-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pim-bounces@ietf.org There was a gen-art review of draft-ietf-pim-rpf-vector-06 by Ben Campbell who wrote: > -- It is not clear to me why this is to be an informational RFC. It > seems to be defining protocol. If that protocol is not intended to be > a standard, then it would help to have an applicability statement to > that effect. I think this a reasonable question. It is normal for something defining protocol to be PS; I'm not sure why it says Informational in the draft. I would like to have a consensus call to see what the WG thinks of this. Please indicate by Tuesday, December 16th, whether you - agree with advancing this as PS or - want to keep it as informational. 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Thread-Index: Acla9jCQmSFy9lSdShGT+fr4iBS0FA== In-Reply-To: <493FFCFC.2020800@uninett.no> Mime-version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2008 18:36:25.0319 (UTC) FILETIME=[34ED4770:01C95AF6] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=963; t=1228934188; x=1229798188; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=ycai@cisco.com; z=From:=20ycai=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[pim]=20rpf-vector=20draft,=20Informati onal=20or=20PS? |Sender:=20; bh=s81qFgwMMbCMZ3RpSt6johNxWPDDGaYAKp767MKrnxg=; b=GaXXUhpOg0hmed1SkwNB3RHEsiBwg1G8+x8BwAHJVcWVPXXC24bNQJH9FV x6nUphKsdT8033WZiDWA4frd0sXE4PFzIdO/Gt1cPIZ6SGBYPfv4bztYEgMm 354LDpgvbG; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=ycai@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); Subject: Re: [pim] rpf-vector draft, Informational or PS? X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pim-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pim-bounces@ietf.org Advancing as PS. On 12/10/08 9:31 AM, "Stig Venaas" wrote: > There was a gen-art review of draft-ietf-pim-rpf-vector-06 by > Ben Campbell who wrote: > >> -- It is not clear to me why this is to be an informational RFC. It >> seems to be defining protocol. If that protocol is not intended to be >> a standard, then it would help to have an applicability statement to >> that effect. > > I think this a reasonable question. It is normal for something defining > protocol to be PS; I'm not sure why it says Informational in the draft. > > I would like to have a consensus call to see what the WG thinks of this. > > Please indicate by Tuesday, December 16th, whether you > > - agree with advancing this as PS or > - want to keep it as informational. > > Stig > _______________________________________________ > pim mailing list > pim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim -- Yiqun _______________________________________________ pim mailing list pim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim From joepete@aliroo.com Wed Dec 10 11:09:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375F23A69EF for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:09:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.437 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.437 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP=1.398, HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC=4.295, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lLhtEiSFeaGm for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-67-36-83-22.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net (adsl-67-36-83-22.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net [67.36.83.22]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C34DE3A69F9 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:09:15 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Re: Order status From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081210190915.C34DE3A69F9@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:09:15 -0800 (PST)

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From pim-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 11 02:38:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C543A6C51; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:38:21 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623C23A6C51 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:38:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.476 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.476 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.124, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l4Y+r4j2coEy for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [IPv6:2001:700:1::eecb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED953A6C4C for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6?2001?700?1?0?215?f2ff?fe35?307d] (sverresborg.uninett.no [IPv6:2001:700:1:0:215:f2ff:fe35:307d]) by tyholt.uninett.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DB42BACE4 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:38:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4940ED94.4010707@uninett.no> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:38:12 +0100 From: Stig Venaas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pim@ietf.org" Subject: [pim] Minutes from IETF 73 wg meeting X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pim-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pim-bounces@ietf.org Draft minutes from the meeting are available at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/minutes/pim.txt Please let me know within a week if you have any corrections to the minutes. Thanks Marshall for taking notes, Stig _______________________________________________ pim mailing list pim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim From pim-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 11 03:30:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AC628C19B; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:30:39 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE8228C19B for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:30:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i6lUpVpmIWh8 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A9B3A6A1A for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so819956rvf.49 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:30:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KEDgNWAiZz8mIMrNhaOP+hJf3NHa+H3ynTw43zlzurI=; b=OJg5+FuZZmHTvz5dLrjl28lDbe13Q2+vnbHZFSNfP5c67zOJGcbKH6EH/cOKeENi+2 PtwnG8sLy/caA19iNjGVk96lHsI6LVReTNqf1gxB7JUihwDLFlWgLgqnE+jd+9ELT7Gm clphwSruxOUq9EqkHWTuuZnNGk5CrJftxdavM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=w6iqrT3c8y7LIzzfGJVBZRAeP8PQ3WBjU/6oaZz4D//T3Jf7+qzsGfKMDoQzNXWlrR q8iZferkQ07jaZZCMwuoNPNCSPTwX4PNxrb4hlqN/9uOJuap1RuPgaAwElCO37m44emD ZK4xqhBPWoyhL4BhRdenUlHgT+vDAaTdC/49w= Received: by 10.115.77.3 with SMTP id e3mr1782125wal.69.1228995030679; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:30:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.208.18 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:30:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:30:30 -0500 From: "Marshall Eubanks" To: ycai In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <493FFCFC.2020800@uninett.no> Cc: Stig Venaas , pim@ietf.org Subject: Re: [pim] rpf-vector draft, Informational or PS? X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1964032384==" Sender: pim-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pim-bounces@ietf.org --===============1964032384== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_75089_28107258.1228995030661" ------=_Part_75089_28107258.1228995030661 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Advance as PS Marshall On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:36 PM, ycai wrote: > Advancing as PS. > > > On 12/10/08 9:31 AM, "Stig Venaas" wrote: > > > There was a gen-art review of draft-ietf-pim-rpf-vector-06 by > > Ben Campbell who wrote: > > > >> -- It is not clear to me why this is to be an informational RFC. It > >> seems to be defining protocol. If that protocol is not intended to be > >> a standard, then it would help to have an applicability statement to > >> that effect. > > > > I think this a reasonable question. It is normal for something defining > > protocol to be PS; I'm not sure why it says Informational in the draft. > > > > I would like to have a consensus call to see what the WG thinks of this. > > > > Please indicate by Tuesday, December 16th, whether you > > > > - agree with advancing this as PS or > > - want to keep it as informational. > > > > Stig > > _______________________________________________ > > pim mailing list > > pim@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim > > > -- > Yiqun > > _______________________________________________ > pim mailing list > pim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim > ------=_Part_75089_28107258.1228995030661 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Advance as PS

Marshall

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:36 PM, ycai <ycai@cisco.com> wrote:

Advancing as PS.

On 12/10/08 9:31 AM, "Stig Venaas" <stig.venaas@uninett.no> wrote:

> There was a gen-art review of draft-ietf-pim-rpf-vector-06 by
> Ben Campbell who wrote:
>
>> -- It is not clear to me why this is to be an informational RFC. It
>> seems to be defining protocol. If that protocol is not intended to be
>> a standard, then it would help to have an applicability statement to
>> that effect.
>
> I think this a reasonable question. It is normal for something defining
> protocol to be PS; I'm not sure why it says Informational in the draft.
>
> I would like to have a consensus call to see what the WG thinks of this.
>
> Please indicate by Tuesday, December 16th, whether you
>
> - agree with advancing this as PS or
> - want to keep it as informational.
>
> Stig
> _______________________________________________
> pim mailing list
> pim@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim

--
Yiqun

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From pim-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 11 05:30:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039513A6A9B; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:30:06 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48833A6A9B for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:30:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.247 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.247 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65nBQgTHe+1F for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias91.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.91]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15DD3A6A1A for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.4]) by omfedm14.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id D60FC68128; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:29:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from PMEXCC41.intranet-paris.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.196.130.30]) by omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id A140968007; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:29:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from PMEXCB30.intranet-paris.francetelecom.fr ([10.196.130.38]) by PMEXCC41.intranet-paris.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:29:55 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:29:54 +0100 Message-ID: <53DE7AEBE1DD5741A44C36342768192203B0BF91@PMEXCB30.intranet-paris.francetelecom.fr> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [pim] rpf-vector draft, Informational or PS? Thread-Index: Aclbg+Wd4ITpVTKMSyWC1Ys/cSbkHwAEIssQ From: To: "Marshall Eubanks" , "ycai" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2008 13:29:55.0830 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E59B160:01C95B94] Cc: Stig Venaas , pim@ietf.org Subject: Re: [pim] rpf-vector draft, Informational or PS? X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1691134943==" Sender: pim-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pim-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1691134943== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C95B94.8DFC8CD2" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95B94.8DFC8CD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Advance as PS=2E =20 Cheers, =20 Christian=2E =2E =09 On 12/10/08 9:31 AM, "Stig Venaas" wrote: =09 > There was a gen-art review of draft-ietf-pim-rpf-vector-06 by > Ben Campbell who wrote: > >> -- It is not clear to me why this is to be an informational RFC=2E It >> seems to be defining protocol=2E If that protocol is not intended to be >> a standard, then it would help to have an applicability statement to >> that effect=2E > > I think this a reasonable question=2E It is normal for something defining > protocol to be PS; I'm not sure why it says Informational in the draft=2E > > I would like to have a consensus call to see what the WG thinks of this=2E > > Please indicate by Tuesday, December 16th, whether you > > - agree with advancing this as PS or > - want to keep it as informational=2E > > Stig > _______________________________________________ > pim mailing list > pim@ietf=2Eorg > https://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/pim =09 =09 =09 -- Yiqun =09 _______________________________________________ pim mailing list pim@ietf=2Eorg https://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/pim =09 ********************************* This message and any attachments (the "message") are confidential and= intended solely for the addressees=2E=20 Any unauthorised use or dissemination is prohibited=2E Messages are susceptible to alteration=2E=20 France Telecom Group shall not be liable for the message if altered,= changed or falsified=2E If you are not the intended addressee of this message, please cancel it= immediately and inform the sender=2E ******************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95B94.8DFC8CD2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Advance as PS=2E

Cheers,

Christian=2E

=2E

On 12/10/08 9:31 AM, "Stig Venaas" <stig=2Evenaas@uninett= =2Eno>=20 wrote:

> There was a gen-art review of=20 draft-ietf-pim-rpf-vector-06 by
> Ben Campbell who=20 wrote:
>
>> -- It is not clear to me why this is to be= an=20 informational RFC=2E It
>> seems to be defining protocol=2E If= that=20 protocol is not intended to be
>> a standard, then it would= help to=20 have an applicability statement to
>> that effect= =2E
>
>=20 I think this a reasonable question=2E It is normal for something=20 defining
> protocol to be PS; I'm not sure why it says= Informational=20 in the draft=2E
>
> I would like to have a consensus call= to see=20 what the WG thinks of this=2E
>
> Please indicate by= Tuesday,=20 December 16th, whether you
>
> - agree with advancing this= as PS=20 or
> - want to keep it as informational=2E
>
>= Stig
>=20 _______________________________________________
> pim mailing=20 list
> pim@ietf= =2Eorg
> https://www=2Eietf= =2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/pim

--
Yiqun

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[not recorded] The third case I mentioned was that a router with the same metric to the source, but a better tie-breaker in an ECMP scenario comes up. On 12/11/08 2:38 AM, "Stig Venaas" wrote: > Draft minutes from the meeting are available at > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/minutes/pim.txt > > Please let me know within a week if you have any corrections > to the minutes. > > Thanks Marshall for taking notes, > > Stig > _______________________________________________ > pim mailing list > pim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim -- Yiqun _______________________________________________ pim mailing list pim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim From oki.chiba@access-company.com Thu Dec 11 11:32:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC313A688C for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:32:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.128 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.128 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=2.219, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9QihKFHDfy9a for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from c-76-26-152-32.hsd1.dc.comcast.net (c-76-26-152-32.hsd1.dc.comcast.net [76.26.152.32]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 14AB13A67DD for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:32:17 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: RE: Message From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081211193218.14AB13A67DD@core3.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:32:17 -0800 (PST)

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senators on the Ides of March.The Duke has no plans for today but has a busy schedule From pim-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 16 05:52:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5833A6948; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:52:51 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A403A6948 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:52:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.494 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.494 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.106, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Wb+WNC4UQv4 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyholt.uninett.no (tyholt.uninett.no [IPv6:2001:700:1::eecb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD033A6920 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6?2001?700?1?0?215?f2ff?fe35?307d] (sverresborg.uninett.no [IPv6:2001:700:1:0:215:f2ff:fe35:307d]) by tyholt.uninett.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE692BACDD; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:52:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4947B2A8.9050604@uninett.no> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:52:40 +0100 From: Stig Venaas User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ycai References: In-Reply-To: Cc: "pim@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [pim] Minutes from IETF 73 wg meeting X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pim-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pim-bounces@ietf.org ycai wrote: >> Yiqun : I am not sure we need this. >> >> There are 3 cases >> >> - a link becomes available >> - a route with a better metric becomes available >> - ? [not recorded] > > The third case I mentioned was that a router with the same metric to the > source, but a better tie-breaker in an ECMP scenario comes up. > Thanks, I've made the change below then. Please let me know by Thursday if you have further corrections. --8<-- @@ -247,7 +247,8 @@ - a link becomes available - a route with a better metric becomes available -- ? [not recorded] +- a router with the same metric to the source, but a better tie-breaker + in an ECMP scenario comes up. The first case is not a problem. --8<-- Stig > > > On 12/11/08 2:38 AM, "Stig Venaas" wrote: > >> Draft minutes from the meeting are available at >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/minutes/pim.txt >> >> Please let me know within a week if you have any corrections >> to the minutes. >> >> Thanks Marshall for taking notes, >> >> Stig >> _______________________________________________ >> pim mailing list >> pim@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim > > _______________________________________________ pim mailing list pim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim From mrvenw@1-800-psychic.com Tue Dec 16 09:37:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360F13A6ABF for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:37:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.343 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.343 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC=4.295, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST=0.124, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=1.787, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_42=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_SBL=20, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TMf3CZP9a-y7 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from 189-54-251-26-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br (189-54-251-26-nd.cpe.vivax.com.br [189.54.251.26]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B97413A6AB0 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:37:45 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Delivery Status Notification From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081216173746.B97413A6AB0@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:37:45 -0800 (PST)

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From pim-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 17 10:23:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A4428C1E4; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:23:35 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E8528C1E5 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:23:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ewWoIm+iB-yI for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BB828C1E0 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:23:33 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,238,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="119607758" Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2008 18:23:25 +0000 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBHINOWE031746 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:23:24 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mBHINNLd000390 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:23:23 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-219.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.188]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:23:23 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:23:22 -0800 Message-ID: <47951CBFA6409B4C8916514FCB05BFBE056FE751@xmb-sjc-219.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: draft-cai-pim-mtid-00 proposed as wg doc Thread-Index: AclgdItwQ2M8qRNYS8Gr/QkZHUyLuQ== From: "Mike McBride (mmcbride)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2008 18:23:23.0915 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C10BDB0:01C96074] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=190; t=1229538204; x=1230402204; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim1004; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=mmcbride@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Mike=20McBride=20(mmcbride)=22=20 |Subject:=20draft-cai-pim-mtid-00=20proposed=20as=20wg=20do c |Sender:=20; bh=SEin+1UDoPBUz41Stzkyp9/iNHv5PCcX2cA8TIybPLQ=; b=HtQW2vCktwEs+OqfcJRlXgYzSmtgJr8XYBjHzCvQurSD4p6yNEUZvFs1Iq FlERj43OVOawroQo+YgB/Q4lvmcBrUcCGPVRFuUMIWMWhh779OjI6YpHGa/v uD7C8xtIPJcnEmGxpVUDZAgpsndlnDm8rS1NUFD08rEw0d45zomZM=; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=mmcbride@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); Subject: [pim] draft-cai-pim-mtid-00 proposed as wg doc X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pim-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pim-bounces@ietf.org draft-cai-pim-mtid-00 was presented in the pim meeting in Minneapolis. The authors requested wg adoption. 7 were in favor. 0 against. Please vote either way on the list. thanks, mike _______________________________________________ pim mailing list pim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim From pim-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 17 10:45:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05B628C1E4; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:45:28 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E95628C1B0 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:45:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TAVk-0uNmc-2 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D49F28C143 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:45:26 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,238,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124332449" Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2008 18:45:19 +0000 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com (sj-core-4.cisco.com [171.68.223.138]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBHIjJbl009420 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:45:19 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mBHIjJRg004800 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:45:19 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-219.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.188]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:45:18 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:45:16 -0800 Message-ID: <47951CBFA6409B4C8916514FCB05BFBE056FE77E@xmb-sjc-219.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: recording of Minneapolis meeting Thread-Index: AclWKsp7suJUcc7URcacwgynDfE4QAAAAyDAAACnIUACkeMbEA== From: "Mike McBride (mmcbride)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2008 18:45:18.0996 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BEA2D40:01C96077] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=339; t=1229539519; x=1230403519; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=mmcbride@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Mike=20McBride=20(mmcbride)=22=20 |Subject:=20=20recording=20of=20Minneapolis=20meeting |Sender:=20; bh=0GhKpfktm3do8VyuE970opel5Ljj6Zqo8HR7KWJlW2s=; b=sBmMOfJ6Ax5gAZp2NPwtSCcuLlx69fgJpVbMdcMWxhkA2q+6Ze5BpcRBNN 8Mmik1pq9M/H2+Oy1R04Svm8rpnBvyGO9cg06NngYfci6qU4cZu7G3SvdW1r ZQ9tPXgpy8; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=mmcbride@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); Subject: [pim] recording of Minneapolis meeting X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pim-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pim-bounces@ietf.org To listen to the pim wg meeting proceedings please follow this link: https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/ldr.php?AT=pb&SP=MC&rID=28421757 &rKey=FC29FB9D765C1B97 Slides are shown along with the recording. Audio recordings of the meetings can also be found here: http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ mike _______________________________________________ pim mailing list pim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim From pim-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 17 11:18:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F423A6962; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:59 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317FB3A6962 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.46 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.46 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.139, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EBwPWcWY6hz6 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48E53A67A8 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:51 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,238,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="124347226" Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2008 19:18:44 +0000 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBHJIiRl003005 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:44 -0800 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mBHJIh9b004339 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:18:44 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.53]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:18:43 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:17:57 -0500 Message-ID: <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B606BA50DE@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <47951CBFA6409B4C8916514FCB05BFBE056FE751@xmb-sjc-219.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [pim] draft-cai-pim-mtid-00 proposed as wg doc Thread-Index: AclgdItwQ2M8qRNYS8Gr/QkZHUyLuQAB52Iw References: <47951CBFA6409B4C8916514FCB05BFBE056FE751@xmb-sjc-219.amer.cisco.com> From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" To: "Mike McBride (mmcbride)" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2008 19:18:43.0519 (UTC) FILETIME=[46B41CF0:01C9607C] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=609; t=1229541524; x=1230405524; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=rajiva@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Rajiv=20Asati=20(rajiva)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[pim]=20draft-cai-pim-mtid-00=20propose d=20as=20wg=20doc |Sender:=20; bh=7GMjuriXpy0DTo60Ar69ADxCl4UD+nZ7fwZezeLnJ58=; b=TNoN8wtmEg1TfoE1E/LLNP7esJUshMLwVb52I0/gGzV0kydvCEagzkdZp7 d6b1Z2SuUoqB4Oyy41FbOmQlV7SoLJuQpar7m+2nXblH5FB+/PBK2Dg8cR2O q1e2GeSm6B; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=rajiva@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); Subject: Re: [pim] draft-cai-pim-mtid-00 proposed as wg doc X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: pim-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pim-bounces@ietf.org support. > -----Original Message----- > From: pim-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Mike McBride (mmcbride) > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 1:23 PM > To: pim@ietf.org > Subject: [pim] draft-cai-pim-mtid-00 proposed as wg doc > > draft-cai-pim-mtid-00 was presented in the pim meeting in Minneapolis. > The authors requested wg adoption. 7 were in favor. 0 against. Please > vote either way on the list. > > thanks, > mike > _______________________________________________ > pim mailing list > pim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim _______________________________________________ pim mailing list pim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim From pim-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 17 16:24:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19173A687F; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:24:11 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD613A687F for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:24:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LCZMLJkKTXDc for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.178]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648363A67AB for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so91018wag.5 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:24:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=PBD56cRIODFCb63BOGM7UNb13eItsKG5voMnRL66B+I=; b=qC2G/gktrlzlXYM6CKxQ0Rolf23UAYoD4VixsBZkvGjB2d0rtfuC6CaCjGaxNY7iVR HOlX1EZBzZjJZZ5C7MzEi8mPWuECoje72wfYAv2t2AuFhdFRtrlKjezwZiuS7V3fGUso y6CcLszgcuet4iv1GQg90HCFvk3vUJqZGPpjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=V1NXukJ7H+c2MZ8SzGgL7/aZLUPXBACaD/lavHtiiPu/VVBgXuCJOeSZi5gBEnfn1o fsl9+usm8ZiuQ5aHPWesxs/F+0wFeJPdbBxAnFbV8d7sWvPgunNjZ/ambrkLwYrUmwdT oxL7LKcJZWYc6tGPj6FGgsV0YzPCLTmRpKH14= Received: by 10.114.211.1 with SMTP id j1mr721785wag.176.1229559840801; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.81.14 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:24:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:24:00 -0500 From: "Marshall Eubanks" To: "Mike McBride (mmcbride)" In-Reply-To: <47951CBFA6409B4C8916514FCB05BFBE056FE77E@xmb-sjc-219.amer.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <47951CBFA6409B4C8916514FCB05BFBE056FE77E@xmb-sjc-219.amer.cisco.com> Cc: pim@ietf.org Subject: Re: [pim] recording of Minneapolis meeting X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0473625188==" Sender: pim-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pim-bounces@ietf.org --===============0473625188== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9113_19052543.1229559840796" ------=_Part_9113_19052543.1229559840796 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear Mike; Is that available for all WG meetings, or is this a PIM special ? Regards Marshall On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Mike McBride (mmcbride) wrote: > To listen to the pim wg meeting proceedings please follow this link: > > https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/ldr.php?AT=pb&SP=MC&rID=28421757 > &rKey=FC29FB9D765C1B97 > > Slides are shown along with the recording. > > Audio recordings of the meetings can also be found here: > > http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ > > mike > > _______________________________________________ > pim mailing list > pim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim > ------=_Part_9113_19052543.1229559840796 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear Mike;

Is that available for all WG meetings, or is this a PIM special ?

Regards

Marshall

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Mike McBride (mmcbride) <mmcbride@cisco.com> wrote:

To listen to the pim wg meeting proceedings please follow this link:

https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/ldr.php?AT=pb&SP=MC&rID=28421757
&rKey=FC29FB9D765C1B97

Slides are shown along with the recording.

Audio recordings of the meetings can also be found here:

http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/

mike

_______________________________________________
pim mailing list
pim@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim

------=_Part_9113_19052543.1229559840796-- --===============0473625188== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ pim mailing list pim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim --===============0473625188==-- From pim-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 17 16:32:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pim-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032153A6B4F; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:32:27 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010153A6B4F for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:32:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nN+5HI1V0WPc for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFD53A6778 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:32:25 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,240,1228089600"; d="scan'208,217";a="215107582" Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Dec 2008 00:32:18 +0000 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (sj-core-3.cisco.com [171.68.223.137]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBI0WHIB030991; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:32:17 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mBI0WH3P005990; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:32:17 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-219.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.188]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:32:17 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:32:15 -0800 Message-ID: <47951CBFA6409B4C8916514FCB05BFBE056FE9E1@xmb-sjc-219.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [pim] recording of Minneapolis meeting Thread-Index: Aclgpu7wmStNTzWRQw6r0vqhpwqD0gAAHSow References: <47951CBFA6409B4C8916514FCB05BFBE056FE77E@xmb-sjc-219.amer.cisco.com> From: "Mike McBride (mmcbride)" To: "Marshall Eubanks" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2008 00:32:17.0673 (UTC) FILETIME=[14D02F90:01C960A8] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=4173; t=1229560337; x=1230424337; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim1004; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=mmcbride@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Mike=20McBride=20(mmcbride)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[pim]=20recording=20of=20Minneapolis=20 meeting |Sender:=20; bh=FQNcaMrfkik0aYJlX/Ww8Zp6O27L5zAF9Z6BFE6uZAw=; b=bhGEy/FNZMXBFBRhs/QFtcgNwgLVgQDNcOn0Lpe+SOAvRqpShjOHeMeVqu fdPVE4i2vLWdK6EAFVS3NWXc6UYLTpUFyJiDIgIJBZoQpObGQPxPiHh7vwP7 gWVzwA0x8n3f7KrC6EXe7gnLSEnFPv93HdAI71j6p2CP9uj2pzGOk=; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=mmcbride@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); Cc: pim@ietf.org Subject: Re: [pim] recording of Minneapolis meeting X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0766980512==" Sender: pim-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pim-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0766980512== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C960A8.14A96AC5" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C960A8.14A96AC5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It was a trial just for pim, the plenary and one or two other meetings. mike ________________________________ From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:marshall.eubanks@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:24 PM To: Mike McBride (mmcbride) Cc: pim@ietf.org Subject: Re: [pim] recording of Minneapolis meeting =09 =09 Dear Mike;=20 Is that available for all WG meetings, or is this a PIM special ? Regards Marshall =09 =09 On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Mike McBride (mmcbride) wrote: =09 To listen to the pim wg meeting proceedings please follow this link: =09 =09 https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/ldr.php?AT=3Dpb&SP=3DMC&rID=3D284= 21757 &rKey=3DFC29FB9D765C1B97 =20 =09 Slides are shown along with the recording. =09 Audio recordings of the meetings can also be found here: =09 http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ =09 mike =09 _______________________________________________ pim mailing list pim@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C960A8.14A96AC5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It was a trial just for pim, the plenary and = one or two=20 other meetings.

mike

From: Marshall Eubanks=20 [mailto:marshall.eubanks@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, = December 17,=20 2008 4:24 PM
To: Mike McBride (mmcbride)
Cc:=20 pim@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [pim] recording of Minneapolis=20 meeting

Dear Mike;

Is that available for all WG meetings, or is this a PIM special = ?

Regards

Marshall

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Mike McBride = (mmcbride) <mmcbride@cisco.com> = wrote:

To=20 listen to the pim wg meeting proceedings please follow this = link:

https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/ldr.php?AT=3Dpb&a= mp;SP=3DMC&rID=3D28421757
&rKey=3DFC29FB9D765C1B97

= Slides=20 are shown along with the recording.

Audio recordings of the = meetings=20 can also be found here:

http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/

mike<= BR>
_______________________________________________
pim=20 mailing list
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