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From pana-bounces@ietf.org Wed Apr 2 06:13:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pana-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pana-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F9428C542; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:13:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: pana@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pana@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E138B28C50E for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:13:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TQcEuhr8EmCP for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com (p-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com [195.101.245.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FBE28C231 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 06:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FTRDMEL2.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.117.153]) by ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:13:00 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:12:57 +0200 Message-ID: <7DBAFEC6A76F3E42817DF1EBE64CB0260574CDBA@ftrdmel2> In-Reply-To: <0MKpCa-1JgIH216JP-0000Rg@mrelay.perfora.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Pana] References Thread-Index: AciFE46Oc1L7XjKNSOOQrxLyAbJQ/wADbVuAA4BWKPAAaBfM8A== References: <7DBAFEC6A76F3E42817DF1EBE64CB02605601C5A@ftrdmel2> <0MKpCa-1JgIH216JP-0000Rg@mrelay.perfora.net> From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2008 13:13:00.0644 (UTC) FILETIME=[46BDDA40:01C894C3] Subject: Re: [Pana] References X-BeenThere: pana@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol for carrying Authentication for Network Access List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: pana-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pana-bounces@ietf.org OK for me. Lionel = > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Alper Yegin [mailto:alper.yegin@yegin.org] = > Envoy=E9 : lundi 31 mars 2008 13:34 > =C0 : MORAND Lionel RD-CORE-ISS; pana@ietf.org > Objet : RE: [Pana] References > = > Hi Lionel, > = > Sorry for the late response. I got a note from RFC Editor and = > she said the doc is held up by this issue. > = > > I suggested that we could keep the sentence but to change = > "recommended" > > fro something else... > > We may put something like: > > = > > "The readers are invited to read the PANA Framework document = > > [I-D.ietf- pana-framework] to find further details on the = > general PANA = > > functional elements, high- level call flow, and deployment = > > environments." > = > I'm afraid this'd still cause the same issue. Recommended vs. = > invited -- does not read much different to me. IMO, that's = > the intent in providing the first sentence below, and the = > second sentence becomes redundant (and troubling, according = > to the RFC Editor). = > = > These components are > described in separate documents (see [I-D.ietf-pana-framework] and > [I-D.ietf-dhc-paa-option]). The readers are recommended to read > the PANA Framework document [I-D.ietf-pana-framework] prior to > reading this protocol specification document. > = > I don't think we lose anything if we don't use the last sentence. > = > Alper > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > > = > > Just to indicate that such info details exist... But not in = > this document! > > = > > Lionel > > = > > = > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > De : pana-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pana-bounces@ietf.org] = > De la part = > > > de Alper Yegin Envoy=E9 : jeudi 13 mars 2008 15:07 =C0 : = > pana@ietf.org = > > > Objet : [Pana] References > > > > > > > > > We discussed these two issues during the PANA WG meeting on = > > > Wednesday. Now running this by the ML... > > > > > > RFC Editor said: > > > > > > ----------8<------------------ > > > Our editor has started working on > > > , and points out that = > Section 1 states: > > > > > > These components are > > > described in separate documents (see = > [I-D.ietf-pana-framework] and > > > [I-D.ietf-dhc-paa-option]). The readers are = > recommended to read > > > the PANA Framework document [I-D.ietf-pana-framework] prior to > > > reading this protocol specification document. > > > > > > We note that is listed as an = > informative = > > > reference, but it seems strange that it is recommended = > reading that = > > > should take place before reading the current = > = > > > document. > > > -------------8<----------------------------------- > > > > > > There was an agreement at the meeting to delete the last sentence = > > > ("The readers ... document.") to avoid confusion. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > We also discussed if we should provide informative references to = > > > pana specification documents (pana-pana, pana-ipsec) from = > framework = > > > document > > > (pana-framework) instead of the normative ones as = > currently done in = > > > the document. There was no objection to this change. > > > > > > > > > Unless there is objection in the next few days, we are = > going to make = > > > these changes. > > > > > > > > > Alper > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pana mailing list > > > Pana@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pana > > > > = > = _______________________________________________ Pana mailing list Pana@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pana From pana-bounces@ietf.org Thu Apr 3 09:12:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pana-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-pana-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1B428C6E2; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:12:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: pana@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: pana@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680A628C5B0 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:12:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.714 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.714 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.884, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OZlVpmE6suPJ for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga04-in.huawei.com (usaga04-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.180]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4554B28C6B7 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 2008 09:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga04-in [172.18.9.16]) by usaga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JYR005B5BMU70@usaga04-in.huawei.com> for pana@ietf.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:11:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from xiayangsong ([10.124.12.53]) by usaga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JYR00JCEBMT4N@usaga04-in.huawei.com> for pana@ietf.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:11:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:11:17 -0500 From: Frank Xia To: Alper Yegin , pana@ietf.org Message-id: <002401c895a5$59671750$350c7c0a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <0MKp8S-1JdwIK2SkF-0008C7@mrelay.perfora.net> Subject: Re: [Pana] IETF 71 PANA Meeting minutes X-BeenThere: pana@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol for carrying Authentication for Network Access List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0226066629==" Sender: pana-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: pana-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0226066629== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_n2U/NgRWnlN3gRVEIUc7VQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_n2U/NgRWnlN3gRVEIUc7VQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi folks I volunteered to review the draft http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-pana-ipsec-07.txt, and I found the draft need update before further review. The reference to basic pana is -06.txt version while the current version is -18.txt version. Some messages referred to in this draft can not be found in the basic specification. BR Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: Alper Yegin To: pana@ietf.org Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: [Pana] IETF 71 PANA Meeting minutes http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08mar/minutes/pana.txt _______________________________________________ Pana mailing list Pana@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pana --Boundary_(ID_n2U/NgRWnlN3gRVEIUc7VQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Hi folks

I volunteered to review the draft http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-pana-ipsec-07.txt,

and I found the draft need update before further review.

The reference to basic pana is -06.txt version while the current version is -18.txt version.

Some messages referred to in this draft can not be found in the basic specification.

Frank

----- Original Message -----

From: Alper Yegin

To: pana@ietf.org

Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:41 PM

Subject: [Pana] IETF 71 PANA Meeting minutes

http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08mar/minutes/pana.txt

_______________________________________________
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https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pana

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