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------=_NextPart_001_0080_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0-- ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BDF6C7.FABAC1B0-- From nfs4-wg-request@sunroof.eng.sun.com Thu Oct 12 13:27:43 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA02904 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.13]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19761; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:27:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id KAA03828; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail1 [129.146.1.13]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.1+Sun/8.11.1) with ESMTP id e9CHQX303796 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn.sun.com (saturn.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.2]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id KAA03672 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns1.dsldesigns.com (gnatbox.dsldesigns.com [192.216.138.2]) by saturn.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27341 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vanb.com ([198.79.111.50]) by dns1.dsldesigns.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA07165 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:08:05 -0700 Message-ID: <39E5F3D5.F1D39C5F@vanb.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:24:37 -0700 From: Audrey Van Belleghem Reply-To: audrey@vanb.com Organization: Van Belleghem Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nfsv4-wg@sunroof.eng.sun.com Subject: NFS Vendors Conference Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nearly 20 companies are registered to attend the NFS Vendors Conference this October 24-25, 2000 in Santa Clara, CA. Here are some details: What: NFS Vendors Conference Who: Sponsored by Sun Microsystems, EMC, Hummingbird and Network Appliance When: October 24-25, 2000 Where: At the Techmart, Fremont Conference room, in Santa Clara, California Why: To bring NFS vendors, customers, end users, ISVs and industry experts together to discuss the protocol in depth from a marketing and managerial perspective. Who should attned: IT managers responsible for file and Web services, marketing and business professionals and engineering managers interested in updating their knowledge about technical and marketing issues surrounding NFS. Keynote speeches: *John Lee (Sun Director of Solaris Data Technology) *Brian Pawlowski (Network Appliance Chief Technical Officer, Europe) *Carl Beame (Hummingbird NFS Senior Architect) *Uresh Vahalia (EMC Director or Software, Network Storage Division) Topics to be covered: *Future directions for NFS with emphasis on NFS version 4 *IDC forecast for NFS and the distributed file system market *Customer perspectives presented by Univeristy of Delaware and Morgan Stanley *NFS and Linux *Contrasting technologies: NFS, CIFS, DFS and how these solutions work together *Roadmap, vision and future directions for NFS at Sun How to register: For more information, see http://www.nfsconf.com From nfs4-wg-request@sunroof.eng.sun.com Fri Oct 13 14:47:22 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA10557 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.13]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20825; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:46:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id LAA20158; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail1 [129.146.1.13]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.1+Sun/8.11.1) with ESMTP id e9DIkE306182 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.43]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id LAA20108 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx02.netapp.com (mx02.netapp.com [198.95.226.52]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09333 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frejya.corp.netapp.com (mailhost [10.10.20.91]) by mx02.netapp.com (8.11.0/8.11.0/NTAP-1.0) with ESMTP id e9DIkBE17336; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tahoe.corp.netapp.com (tahoe [10.10.22.112]) by frejya.corp.netapp.com (8.11.0/8.11.0/NTAP-1.1) with ESMTP id e9DIkBP18710; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tahoe.corp.netapp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4K920FVZ>; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:46:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Noveck, Dave" To: "Noveck, Dave" , "'William A.(Andy) Adamson'" , nfsv4-wg@sunroof.eng.sun.com Subject: RE: lock stateid, sequence number and lease interaction Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:46:10 -0700 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On second thought ... First, Andy Adamson wrote: >> There needs to be an agreement on the interaction between >> the lock sequence number, lease, and stateid error checking. >> >> One issue is when does the client upon receiving an error >> on a lock sequence number mutating operation decrement >> it's lockowner sequence number? >> >> I've divided the operations into three catagories and shown >> the server's processing logic with questions for each, and >> would like to hear comments.... >> >> In what order is everyone else doing this processing on the >> server? >> >> >> Operations that have a stateid and a sequence number >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> CLOSE, LOCK, LOCKU, OPEN_DOWNGRADE, >> OPEN_CONFIRM (stateid in verifier otherwise server >> can't locate lockowner) >> >> The stateid has to be checked first - it is the only way >> to find the lockowner. If the stateid is bad, the sequence >> number cannot be bumped because the lockowner can't be >> identified. So, the client when getting a NFS4ERR_XXX_STATEID >> error needs to decrement the lockowners sequence number otherwise >> it will be inconsistant for other lockowner operations. Then I wrote, > Right. My server does not bump the sequence number or check > for a replay, since it can't find the lockowner structure. The interesting question here is "What is a bad stateid (for the purposes of checking for a duplicate sequence number)?". I think it is very easy to get this wrong. I know. I got this wrong in my server (with hardly any effort at all :-), and I suspect others may have as well. If you do the obvious thing and call a routine which maps a stateid to either the address of some sort of "state" structure or an error (NFS4ERR_{STALE,BAD,OLD}_STATEID), your server will be as broken as mine. (I'm working on fixing it). The good news (if you have this problem) is that nothing we are likely to run at the Bake-off is going to run into this problem. Simply running the connectathon tests is not going to find this. Even the more aggressive option of rebooting servers while running the connectathon tests is not going to find this kind of issue. Come to think of it, that's actually the *bad* news. It's becoming clear to me that because V4 is a more sophisticated (and stateful) protocol than earlier nfs versions, interoperability testing is going to have to get more sophisticated as well. > In the case of NFS4ERR_STALE_STATEID, the client should decide that > the server has rebooted so it should reset the sequence numbers, > shouldn't it. > The cases of NFS4ERR_{BAD,OLD}_STATEID should not occur if the > client and server are functioning properly but I agree the client > should undo any sequnce number increment. Suppose the client does a LOCK and and the server sends back an updated stateid. And suppose that that LOCK is retried and the retry is not caught by a response cache. If you then try to check the stateid, so as to find the associated structure so you can find the owner to check the sequence-id, you are going to determine that the state-id is old. In this situation, if you returned NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID before checking for a duplicate sequence number, the whole duplicate sequence number logic would be defeated. Instead of getting the old response, you would always get back NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID. So you have to check the state-id first, but not completely. If the stateid maps to a state object which is still valid but has become out of date because of a single operation, you must not return NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID until you find the owner and make sure that this is not a duplicate. This leads to the interesting question of whether, when it isn't a duplicate and you return NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID, the server should increment the sequence number. Before, we had agreed that it wouldn't and the client should undo its increment. I'm inclined now (based on the above) to think that each of these three cases should be handled differently with regards to sequence number handling. NFS4ERR_STALE_STATEID -- as noted before, sequence knowledge is reset on both client and server. NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID -- Should not happen normally but the server should not increment the sequence id (it can't) and the client should undo any increment on its side. NFS4ERR_OLD_STATEID -- Should not happen normally on requests that have a sequence number, but the server must be able to find the owner (to check for a duplicate) so server should increment the sequence id and the client should *not* undo any increment on its side. I've saved the best for last :-( Now suppose we have a CLOSE. The obvious thing to do is to take the state entry associated with the file and mark it unused so that if someone were to inadvertantly use that stateid he would get NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID and also put that entry in a free list so that it could be reallocated when some totally unrelated OPEN was done, it would be used (with a new generation number) to assign a new stateid for that new open. Now consider what would happen if the CLOSE was retried. If the state entry were deallocated, you would not be able to find the owner to check the sequence number to find out it was a duplicate so that you could send back the correct saved response (from the house that Jack built). My conclusion is that you cannot deallocate the information associated with the CLOSE'd state until another request with the next sequence number arrives for the same lockowner, or the client reboots, or there is no longer any locking state for that owner and the server receives nothing from that lockowner for a while and forgets the associated lockowner information, yada, yada, yada. From nfs4-wg-request@sunroof.eng.sun.com Mon Oct 16 18:18:08 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id SAA17019 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 18:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.170.5]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29334; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:17:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id PAA05857; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaba.west.sun.com (jaba.West.Sun.COM [129.153.8.111] (may be forged)) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.1+Sun/8.11.1) with ESMTP id e9GMFo308848 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seaside (seaside [129.153.8.98]) by jaba.west.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with SMTP id PAA23710; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010162215.PAA23710@jaba.west.sun.com> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Anne Simmons Reply-To: Lee Anne Simmons Subject: NFSV4 roadmap To: nfsv4-wg@sunroof.eng.sun.com Cc: leeanne.simmons@west.sun.com, cance@zeppo.west.sun.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: vOngKORddFT6nT6D6tOfrw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.2 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc I have a customer that wants to know the roadmap to NFSV4. 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For details see: http://www.ietf.org/meetings/IETF-49.html The NFSv4 WG has a session tentatively scheduled for Thursday morning (Dec 12th). Note that the agenda is preliminary - it won't be final for a few weeks yet, it could change. So if you're planning on attending the meeting, keep your travel plans flexible. Brent --------------972593915 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Return-Path: Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.1.13]) by jurassic.eng.sun.com (8.11.1+Sun/8.11.1) with ESMTP id e9QGeEf474707; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.5.43]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id JAA23817; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08843; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA18651; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200010261632.MAA18651@ietf.org> To: wgchairs@ietf.org, bofchairs@ietf.org From: agenda@ietf.org cc: dinaras@ietf.org Subject: 49th IETF: Preliminary Agenda Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:32:02 -0400 Sender: dinaras@cnri.reston.va.us Content-Length: 8026 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: 0000053627 MIME-Version: 1.0 This is the current agenda we will post on the web starting tomorrow. Thanks, Dinara ============================================================================== Draft Agenda of the Forty-ninth IETF December 10-December 15, 2000 As of 10/26/00 SUNDAY, December 10, 2000 1200-1900 Registration - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 1530-1600 Newcomer's Orientation - Grande Ballroom A 1600-1630 IETF Standards Process Orientation - Grande Ballroom A 1700-1900 Welcome Reception - Grand Ballroom BC MONDAY, December 11, 2000 0800-1930 IETF Registration - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 0800-0900 Continental Breakfast - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 0900-1130 Morning Sessions APP apparea Applications Open Area Meeting INT dhc v4 Dynamic Host Configuration WG RTG mpls Multiprotocol Label Switching WG TSV enum Telephone Number Mapping WG TSV ips IP Storage WG 1130-1300 Break 1300-1500 Afternoon Sessions I APP msgtrk Message Tracking Protocol WG APP ldapext LDAP Extension WG IRTF aaaarch Authentication Authorisation Accounting Architecture OPS policy Policy Framework WG RTG msdp Multicast Source Discovery Protocol WG SEC ipsec IP Security WG WG TSV iptel IP Telephony WG USV uswg User Services WG 1500-1530 Break (Refreshments provided) - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 1530-1730 Afternoon Sessions II APP impp Instant Messaging and Presence Protocol WG OPS adslmib ADSL MIB WG OPS tewg Internet Traffic Engineering WG RTG pim Protocol Independent Multicast WG SEC ipsra IP Security Remote Access WG SEC xmldsig XML Digital Signatures WG TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group 1730-1930 Break 1930-2200 Evening Sessions APP ldapbis LDAP (v3) Revision BOF INT idn Internationalized Domain Name WG OPS rmonmib Remote Network Monitoring WG SEC ipsp IP Security Policy WG TSV rmt Reliable Multicast Transport WG TSV sip Session Initiation Protocol WG TUESDAY, December 12, 2000 0800-1700 IETF Registration - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 0800-0900 Continental Breakfast - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 0900-1130 Morning Sessions APP ldup LDAP (v3) Revision WG INT dhc v6 Dynamic Host Configuration WG OPS aaa Authentication, Authorization and Accounting WG TSV sip Session Initiation Protocol WG TSV ips IP Storage WG 1130-1300 Break 1300-1400 Afternoon Sessions I APP nntpext NNTP Extensions WG SEC msec Multicast Secutiry BOF TSV rmt Reliable Multicast Transport WG 1415-1515 Afternoon Sessions II TSV spirits Service in the PSTN/IN Requesting InTernet Service WG 1515-1545 Break (Refreshments provided) - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 1545-1645 Afternoon Sessions III APP vpim Voice Profile for Internet Mail WG INT ipfc IP over Fibre Channel WG SEC msec Multicast Secutiry BOF SEC pkix Public-Key Infrastructure WG TSV diffserv Differentiated Services WG 1700-1800 Afternoon Sessions IV INT frnetmib Frame Relay Service MIB WG SEC kink Kerberized Internet Negotiation of Keys WG TSV nat Network Address Translators WG WEDNESDAY, December 13, 2000 0800-1700 IETF Registration - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 0800-0900 Continental Breakfast - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 0900-1130 Morning Sessions APP calsch Calendaring and Scheduling WG INT dnsext DNS Extensions WG INT ipcdn IP over Cable Data Network WG OPS ngtrans Next Generation Transition WG OPS policy Policy Framework WG RTG manet Mobile Ad-noc Networks WG TSV mmusic Multiparty Multimedia Session Control WG SEC syslog Security Issues in Network Event Logging WG 1130-1300 Break 1300-1500 Afternoon Sessions I APP trade Internet Open Trading Protocol WG INT megaco Media Gateway Control WG RTG idr Internet-Domain Routing WG SEC pkix Public-Key Infrastructure WG TSV seamoby SeaMoby BOF 1500-1530 Break (Refreshments provided) - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 1530-1730 Afternoon Sessions II APP webdav WWW Distributed Authoring and Versioning WG INT frnetmib Frame Relay Service MIB WG OPS rmonmib Remote Network Monitoring WG OPS aaa Authentication, Authorization and Accounting WG RTG idr Internet-Domain Routing WG SEC smime S/MIME Mail Security WG TSV avt Audio/Video Transport WG INT idn Internationalized Domain Name WG 1730-1930 Break 1930-2200 Open Plenary - Grande Ballroom ABC o Welcome - Fred Baker, IETF Chair o o IAB Open Plenary o IESG Open Plenary 2230 Late Night Session o PGP Key Signing THURSDAY, December 14, 2000 0800-1700 IETF Registration - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 0800-0900 Continental Breakfast - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 0900-1130 Morning Sessions APP fax Internet Fax WG OPS mboned MBONE Deployment WG RTG mobileip IP Routing for Wireless/Mobile Hosts WG SEC idwg Intrusion Detection Exchange Format WG TSV sigtran Signaling Transport WG TSV nfsv4 Network File System Version 4 WG 1130-1300 Break 1300-1500 Afternoon Sessions I APP deltav Web Versioning and Configuration Management WG OPS snmpconf Configuration Management with SNMP WG OPS ngtrans Next Generation Transition WG SEC sacred Securely Available Credentials WG TSV avt Audio/Video Transport WG TSV diffserv Differentiated Services WG 1500-1530 Break (Refreshments provided) - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 1530-1730 Afternoon Sessions II APP vpim Voice Profile for Internet Mail WG SEC saag Open Security Area Directorate Meeting TSV rftm2 Development of the Realtime Traffic Flow Measurement Architecture BOF RTG mpls Multiprotocol Label Switching WG TSV mmusic Multiparty Multimedia Session Control WG FRIDAY, December 15, 2000 0800-1000 IETF Registration - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 0800-0900 Continental Breakfast - Harbor Island Foyer and Grande Ballroom Foyer 0900-1130 Morning Sessions APP impp Instant Messaging and Presence Protocol WG OPS snmpconf Configuration Management with SNMP WG RTG mobileip IP Routing for Wireless/Mobile Hosts WG SEC idwg Intrusion Detection Exchange Format WG TSV pilc Performance Implications of Links Characteristics WG TSV rserpool Reliable Server Pooling BOF AREA DIRECTORS APP Applications Patrik Faltstrom/Cisco Systems and Ned Freed/Innosoft International, Inc. GEN General Interest Fred Baker/Cisco Systems INT Internet Thomas Narten/IBM Corp. and Erik Nordmark/Sun Microsystems OPS Operations & Management Randy Bush/Verio, Inc. and Bert Wijnen/Lucent Technologies RTG Routing Rob Coltun/Redback and Dave Oran/Cisco Systems SEC Security Jeff Schiller/MIT and Marcus Leech/Nortel Networks TSV Transport Scott Bradner/Harvard Univ. and Allison Mankin/USC/ISI USV User Services April Marine/Nominum, Inc. ============================================================================ 10/26/00 8:39 AM --------------972593915-- From nfs4-wg-request@sunroof.eng.sun.com Fri Oct 27 17:28:56 2000 Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id RAA06310 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 17:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.144.170.5]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06034; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:28:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sunroof.eng.sun.com (sunroof.Eng.Sun.COM [129.146.168.88]) by engmail3.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id OAA21535; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (engmail4 [129.144.134.6]) by sunroof.eng.sun.com (8.11.1+Sun/8.11.1) with ESMTP id e9RLRN319750 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.Sun.COM (venus.EBay.Sun.COM [129.150.69.5]) by engmail4.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id OAA23346 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:27:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Magic@mx0102.fsnet.co.uk Received: from uvex_nt.uvex.co.uk ([195.217.251.50]) by venus.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18588 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 195.217.251.50 ([4.54.145.167]) by uvex_nt.uvex.co.uk (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.1a (Intl)) with SMTP id 2000102710265810:4412 ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:26:58 +0100 To: Magic@atip.fsnet.co.uk Date: Wed, 25 Oct 00 08:28:00 EST Subject: Search Engine Secrets Discovered Reply-To: searchengine108@yahoo.com X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on uvex_nt/Uvex(Release 5.0.1a (Intl)|17 August 1999) at 27/10/2000 10:27:02, Serialize by Router on uvex_nt/Uvex(Release 5.0.1a (Intl)|17 August 1999) at 27/10/2000 22:40:12, Serialize complete at 27/10/2000 22:40:12 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by lukla.Sun.COM id PAA06034 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id RAA06310 "Amazing Search Engine Secrets Discovered By A Computer Illiterate Man in Massachusetts Can Practically Hand You the Top Search Engine Positions...And Add 1,550 Hits a Day to Web Site Overnight!" 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