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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 2 08:30:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F42628C10A; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:30:04 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 700BB3A6A12; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:30:01 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081202163001.700BB3A6A12@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:30:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-04.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : An Analysis of Scaling Issues in MPLS-TE Core Networks Author(s) : S. Yasukawa, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-04.txt Pages : 41 Date : 2008-12-02 Traffic engineered Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS-TE) is deployed in providers' core networks. As providers plan to grow these networks, they need to understand whether existing protocols and implementations can support the network sizes that they are planning. This document presents an analysis of some of the scaling concerns for the number of Label Switching Paths (LSPs) in MPLS-TE core networks, and examines the value of two techniques (LSP hierarchies, and multipoint-to-point LSPs) for improving scaling. The intention is to motivate the development of appropriate deployment techniques and protocol extensions to enable the application of MPLS-TE in large networks. This document only considers the question of achieving scalability for the support of point-to-point MPLS-TE LSPs. Point-to-multipoint MPLS-TE LSPs are for future study. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-04.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-12-02081815.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --NextPart-- From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 2 08:33:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299E73A69F2; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:33:12 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83623A69B4 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:33:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.381 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.381 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.217, BAYES_00=-2.599, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LBhMqMM-NGjE for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from protext01.itu.ch (protext01.itu.ch [156.106.192.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE9A3A69F2 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from protext01.itu.ch ([156.106.192.41]) by protext01.itu.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:33:04 +0100 Received: From mail6.itu.ch ([156.106.192.22]) by protext01.itu.ch (WebShield SMTP v4.5 MR3) id 1228235583945; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:33:03 +0100 Received: from your029b8cecfe ([156.106.216.176]) by mail6.itu.ch (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mB2GWvWi375426 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:33:03 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3AE3937F39A3412B962F7CF950469560@your029b8cecfe> From: "Adrian Farrel" To: References: <20081202163001.700BB3A6A12@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:32:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (mail6.itu.ch [156.106.192.22]); Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:33:03 +0100 (MET) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2008 16:33:04.0460 (UTC) FILETIME=[A65DD0C0:01C9549B] Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-04.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Hi, New revision is a few minor editorial things resulting from GenArt review in IETF last call. 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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 2 11:30:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C4028C1E9; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:30:03 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id D678228C1C3; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:30:01 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081202193001.D678228C1C3@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:30:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-mpls-tp-gach-gal-00.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : MPLS Generic Associated Channel Author(s) : M. Vigoureux, M. Bocci, D. Ward, G. Swallow, R. Aggarwal Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-gach-gal-00.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2008-12-2 This document generalises the applicability of the pseudowire Associated Channel Header (ACH), enabling the realization of a control channel associated to MPLS Label Switched Paths (LSP), MPLS pseudowires (PW) and MPLS Sections. In order to identify the presence of this G-ACH, this document also assigns of one of the reserved MPLS label values to the 'Generic Alert Label (GAL)', to be used as a label based exception mechanism. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-gach-gal-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-mpls-tp-gach-gal-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-12-2111544.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --NextPart-- From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 2 12:53:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4170E3A67B5; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:53:13 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8401D3A67B5; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:53:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.414 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.414 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.185, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tRI3X2N-Vm6y; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com (rtp-iport-1.cisco.com [64.102.122.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEC43A6778; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 12:53:06 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,704,1220227200"; d="scan'208";a="29773111" Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2008 20:53:01 +0000 Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mB2Kr2Ot020403; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:53:02 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB2KqwKD014585; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:53:02 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.53]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:53:00 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 15:52:55 -0500 Message-ID: <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B606A13422@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <200812022021.mB2KLbrV009388@klph001.kcdc.att.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [bmwg] WGLC: draft-ietf-bmwg-mpls-forwarding-meth-01 Thread-Index: AclUu6vBUZqkvDugQcmebkhOFC6segABCtxQ References: <200812022021.mB2KLbrV009388@klph001.kcdc.att.com> From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" To: "Al Morton" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2008 20:53:00.0477 (UTC) FILETIME=[F65126D0:01C954BF] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1159; t=1228251182; x=1229115182; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=rajiva@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Rajiv=20Asati=20(rajiva)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[bmwg]=20WGLC=3A=20draft-ietf-bmwg-mpls -forwarding-meth-01 |Sender:=20 |To:=20=22Al=20Morton=22=20,=20,=20; bh=gy4OzIgyW6bCyGO1mIcNJfMSjGOOa1L4vIoMVhCXBpY=; b=z++J+OrecUc40pf4s7Z+2pPwsjrBoQxDKEsHh7ogStH0z6MXjqeOK8zjfO Q9zPoNzks9sqPzvfpqdxtxaoNTIJlCuztaffjCT+gjk/NDiyALcB8IpK+TYN Wjaai5nAew; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2; header.From=rajiva@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim2001 verified; ); Subject: Re: [mpls] [bmwg] WGLC: draft-ietf-bmwg-mpls-forwarding-meth-01 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org ccing mpls wg. > -----Original Message----- > From: bmwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:bmwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Al Morton > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:22 PM > To: bmwg@ietf.org > Subject: [bmwg] WGLC: draft-ietf-bmwg-mpls-forwarding-meth-01 > > BMWG: > > A WG Last Call period for the Internet-Draft on > > "MPLS Forwarding Benchmarking Methodology" > draft-ietf-bmwg-mpls-forwarding-meth-01.txt > > will be open from 2 December through 23 December, 2008. > > This is the second WGLC on the draft. It was developed as > draft-akhter-bmwg-mpls-meth-04.txt and adopted as a WG draft. > > Please weigh-in on whether or not this Internet-Draft > should be given to the Area Directors and IESG for consideration and > publication as an Informational RFC. Send your comments > to this list or acmorton@att.com. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bmwg-mpls-forwarding-meth-01 > > > Al > bmwg chair > > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 3 09:45:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0EA28C17B; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:45:02 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 4F3313A693E; Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:45:00 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081203174501.4F3313A693E@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:45:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-requirements-00.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for OAM in MPLS Transport Networks Author(s) : M. Vigoureux, D. Ward, M. Betts Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-requirements-00.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2008-12-3 This document lists the requirements for Operations, Administration and Maintenance functionality in MPLS networks that are used for packet transport services and network operations. These requirements are derived from the set of requirements specified by ITU-T and first published in the ITU-T Supplement Y.Sup4 [5]. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-requirements-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-requirements-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-12-3093303.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --NextPart-- From kaufmanr@almaden.ibm.com Wed Dec 3 21:01:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2C23A677E for ; 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This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) label stack entry: "EXP" field renamed to "Traffic Class" field Author(s) : L. Andersson, R. Asati Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def-08.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2008-12-05 The early Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) documents defined the form of the MPLS Label Stack entry. This includes a three bit field called the "EXP field". The exact use of this field was not defined by these documents, except to state that it was to be "reserved for experimental use". Although the intended use of the EXP field was as a "Class of Service" (CoS) field, it was not named the CoS field by these early documents because the use of such a CoS field was not considered to be sufficiently defined. Today a number of standards documents define its usage as a CoS field. . To avoid misunderstanding about how this field may be used, it has become increasingly necessary to rename this field. This document changes the name of the field to the "Traffic Class field" ("TC field".) In doing so it also updates documents that define the current use of the EXP this field. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def-08.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def-08.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-12-05083214.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --NextPart-- From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 5 08:48:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D993A3A6403; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:48:27 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC463A6403 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:48:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KzA+Rw+oh82W for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.183]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0473A63D3 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 28890381C1; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:48:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECBE381B3; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:48:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (h133n2fls33o883.telia.com [217.208.62.133]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E581237E4C; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:48:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49395B48.70408@pi.nu> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:48:08 +0100 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" , "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" , "Miguel A. Garcia" , Radia Perlman X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Cc: Ross Callon , David Ward Subject: [mpls] [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def-08] X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Working Group, version -08 of the draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def addresses all the comments received during IETF last call. No major changes, but a lot of typos, grammar and acronym expanding. We've re-ordered section 2.4 to make it clearer. We have also re-named (re-numbered) one of the figures, figure 1 is repeated twice in the draft; the figure as it appears in the RFC is still called Figure 1, while the new figure is called "Figure 1 new", this is to make possible to reference to the figures in draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def separately. Thanks for all the help progressing this. /Loa -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def-08 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:32:14 -0800 (PST) From: IETF I-D Submission Tool To: loa@pi.nu CC: rajiva@cisco.com A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def-08.txt has been successfuly submitted by Loa Andersson and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def Revision: 08 Title: Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) label stack entry: "EXP" field renamed to "Traffic Class" field Creation_date: 2008-12-05 WG ID: mpls Number_of_pages: 18 Abstract: The early Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) documents defined the form of the MPLS Label Stack entry. This includes a three bit field called the "EXP field". The exact use of this field was not defined by these documents, except to state that it was to be "reserved for experimental use". Although the intended use of the EXP field was as a "Class of Service" (CoS) field, it was not named the CoS field by these early documents because the use of such a CoS field was not considered to be sufficiently defined. Today a number of standards documents define its usage as a CoS field. . To avoid misunderstanding about how this field may be used, it has become increasingly necessary to rename this field. This document changes the name of the field to the "Traffic Class field" ("TC field".) In doing so it also updates documents that define the current use of the EXP this field. The IETF Secretariat. -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@redback.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Redback Networks phone: +46 8 632 77 14 An Ericsson Company _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mail@alpestransports.com Fri Dec 5 09:26:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D2F28C1D3 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:26:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -19.745 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-19.745 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-10.346, BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zvK55kbgjGaH for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from alcm.co.jp (unknown [189.4.13.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E7BD828C1C7 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:26:07 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Your order From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081205172608.E7BD828C1C7@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:26:07 -0800 (PST) Click to visit Official Web Site! 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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Sun Dec 7 20:09:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1473A6A24; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:09:41 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DF83A6A24 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:09:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l8t0uZWvBl3t for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com (rtp-iport-1.cisco.com [64.102.122.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A193E3A6A16 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:09:38 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,733,1220227200"; d="scan'208";a="30310232" Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2008 04:09:32 +0000 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mB849Wnq014072; Sun, 7 Dec 2008 23:09:32 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mB849W1g012697; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 04:09:32 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-212.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.111]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 7 Dec 2008 23:09:32 -0500 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 23:09:01 -0500 Message-ID: <42591A81B59EA14BAA617596482F65CE062AB215@xmb-rtp-212.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <491C7069.2050609@pi.nu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] draft-dasmith-mpls-ip-options-01.txt as MPLS working groupdocument Thread-Index: AclFvNOpbQvvEySrR2Gt2aIXb64wEwTLUVjQ From: "David Smith (djsmith)" To: "Loa Andersson" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2008 04:09:32.0694 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6290B60:01C958EA] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1128; t=1228709373; x=1229573373; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim1001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=djsmith@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22David=20Smith=20(djsmith)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[mpls]=20draft-dasmith-mpls-ip-options- 01.txt=20as=20MPLS=20working=20groupdocument |Sender:=20 |To:=20=22Loa=20Andersson=22=20,=20; bh=iqK0gxZi57D3EnfcKbSdwp1FxaMpPEAYhZK3xfzso8c=; b=C7C/Hv/KN6RucAV0fAR1vhSEQHeCf7mYjtJ6WfisK1s6H0gF0ZBlS17lJC zenqUC+sIpPBuDvR19Glp+q53sj5h9yZT8sJ1TUJQvt5u4TIHLQvzXjBX9a+ FOvgQV3+9b; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-1; header.From=djsmith@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim1001 verified; ); Cc: Ross Callon , David Ward Subject: Re: [mpls] draft-dasmith-mpls-ip-options-01.txt as MPLS working groupdocument X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org We have re-published the draft today as draft-ietf-mpls-ip-options-00.txt which incorporates feedback from WG members. /dave -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:23 PM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: Ross Callon; David Ward Subject: [mpls] draft-dasmith-mpls-ip-options-01.txt as MPLS working groupdocument All, we have accepted draft-dasmith-mpls-ip-options-01.txt as an MPLS working group document. Could the authors please re-publish it as draft-ietf-mpls-ip-options-01.txt as soon as the it is possible after the cut off for the Minneapolis meeting. 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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 10 06:18:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379373A6AF5; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:18:08 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565503A6AF5 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:18:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.352 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.352 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B6G16WEKhG8f for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315CB3A68EC for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2022.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 050931C00098 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:17:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from nbMichelvst (LRouen-151-72-18-204.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.13.177.204]) by mwinf2022.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BB2631C00084 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:17:54 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20081210141754766.BB2631C00084@mwinf2022.orange.fr From: "Michel Gosse" To: Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:13:51 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 Thread-Index: Acla0YcSYdczMtZtQOC2nsGmHoJFVg== Subject: [mpls] MPLS & Ethernet World Congress 2009 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2049870373==" Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2049870373== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C95AD9.E9294990" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C95AD9.E9294990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The 11th edition of the MPLS & Ethernet World Congress will take place in Paris next February 10-13, 2009. The 2009 agenda will pay particular attention this year to Ethernet and MPLS Transport standards and mechanisms. Video transport, services and mobile backhaul will also be covered in detail. The proposals have been analyzed and categorized according to their degree of pertinence by the members of the scientific committee. Get all details on: http://www.upperside.fr/mpls2009/mpls2009intro.htm ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C95AD9.E9294990 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The 11th edition of the MPLS & Ethernet = World Congress will take place in Paris next February 10-13, 2009.

 

The 2009 agenda will pay particular attention = this year to Ethernet and MPLS Transport standards and mechanisms. =

Video transport, services and mobile backhaul = will also be covered in detail.

The proposals have been analyzed and categorized according to their = degree of pertinence by the members of the scientific = committee. 

 

Get all details on: http://www.upperside.fr/mpls2009/mpls2009intro.htm

 

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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 11 09:15:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F84F3A6C12; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:15:03 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 7B4A63A6C12; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:15:01 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081211171501.7B4A63A6C12@core3.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:15:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-ip-options-01.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for Label Edge Router Forwarding of IPv4 Option Packets Author(s) : W. Jaeger, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-ip-options-01.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2008-12-11 This document imposes a new requirement on Label Edge Routers (LER) specifying that when determining whether to MPLS encapsulate an IP packet, the determination is made independent of any IP options that may be carried in the IP packet header. Lack of a formal standard has resulted in different LER forwarding behaviors for IP packets with header options despite being associated with a prefix-based Forwarding Equivalence Class (FEC). IP option packets that belong to a prefix-based FEC but fail to be MPLS encapsulated simply due to their header options present a security risk against the MPLS infrastructure. Further, LERs that are unable to MPLS encapsulate IP packets with header options cannot operate in certain MPLS environments. This new requirement will reduce the risk of IP options-based security attacks against LSRs as well as assist LER operation across MPLS networks which minimize the IP routing information carried by LSRs. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-ip-options-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-mpls-ip-options-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-12-11090739.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --NextPart-- From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 11 11:15:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F1F28C165; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:15:01 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D489828C15E for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:15:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rm5RB-8YKd7M for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3690428C156 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so511039wag.5 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:14:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=Va+7qSd4CF61FgNRe8CJSWYPSQjRKSXm79aP/Fab0ug=; b=N3gHOb4D1rFsMzkl2ZnokkTqlhdhHi/BUTnLj08oaosMU+i2JqQKzkgr6QaXJz89ex iJges/58jAzi6Dd6WBYcMd2bwSAj45V/uIW6KwfQ+xGeh2aGWPmJKpuZhpgqLu0zWA7N rkwSxQZE0V5VBFNxOp61SENj9A8sT5magpYpU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=nEAyv5uMhWy8SxR6Mc7p53U05dVgYgJjyXKicEdJagLyjQNwqugZoI35HST4jobOQ7 /4HcVQMtue+BkNEQcZziaVNXanWlz17LxL+r7uRR8IdopuVBYPDGIus8ys0Ci+OB2yqa Bt9ZBt8ZJXvv5e3T1gyKOd7dalcCWNnfc5bUA= Received: by 10.114.185.8 with SMTP id i8mr2096207waf.85.1229022893143; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.137.3 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:14:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <715756490812111114l450d3107yf6a8dee82ce80509@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:44:53 +0530 From: "venkatesan mahalingam" To: mpls@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [mpls] LDP over RSVP-TE information request X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1229453649==" Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org --===============1229453649== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_60907_23950818.1229022893129" ------=_Part_60907_23950818.1229022893129 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi All, Is there any IETF standard for implementing LDP over RSVP-TE? Thanks in advance, Venkatesan Mahalingam. ------=_Part_60907_23950818.1229022893129 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi All,
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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Sun Dec 14 06:45:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95ABE3A690E; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:45:03 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id EF9DE3A67B4; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:45:01 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081214144501.EF9DE3A67B4@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:45:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : An Analysis of Scaling Issues in MPLS-TE Core Networks Author(s) : S. Yasukawa, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-05.txt Pages : 41 Date : 2008-12-14 Traffic engineered Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS-TE) is deployed in providers' core networks. As providers plan to grow these networks, they need to understand whether existing protocols and implementations can support the network sizes that they are planning. This document presents an analysis of some of the scaling concerns for the number of Label Switching Paths (LSPs) in MPLS-TE core networks, and examines the value of two techniques (LSP hierarchies, and multipoint-to-point LSPs) for improving scaling. The intention is to motivate the development of appropriate deployment techniques and protocol extensions to enable the application of MPLS-TE in large networks. This document only considers the question of achieving scalability for the support of point-to-point MPLS-TE LSPs. Point-to-multipoint MPLS-TE LSPs are for future study. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-05.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-05.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-12-14063019.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --NextPart-- From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Sun Dec 14 09:09:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525A03A6927; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:09:01 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4BA3A6918 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:09:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.905 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.905 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.693, BAYES_00=-2.599, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tf5eD5AHPV2B for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062253A6768 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id mBEH8nBg027633 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:49 GMT Received: from your029b8cecfe (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBEH8lST027621 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:48 GMT Message-ID: <86CF87D6F36F44A1BEABB1012A20767B@your029b8cecfe> From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [mpls] Fw: I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-05.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Hi, The update here is to the end of Section 1.1 and to the Security Considerations section. The changes address a Discuss raised by Tim Polk during IESG review. We added the following text... Section 1.1 The operation of security mechanisms in MPLS-TE networks [MPLS-SEC] may have an impact on the ability of the network to scale. For example, they may increase both the size and number of control plane messages. Additionally, they may increase the processing overhead as control plane messages are subject to processing algorithms (such as encryption), and security keys need to be managed. Deployers will need to consider the trade-offs between scaling objectives and security objectives in their networks and should resist the temptation to respond to a degradation of scaling performance by turning off security techniques that have previously been deemed as necessary. Further analysis of the effects of security measures on scalability are not considered further in this document. Section 12 General issues of the relationship between scaling and security are covered in Section 1.1, but the details are beyond the scope of this document. Readers are referred to [MPLS-SEC] for details of MPLS security techniques. Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-05.txt >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working > Group of the IETF. > > > Title : An Analysis of Scaling Issues in MPLS-TE Core Networks > Author(s) : S. Yasukawa, et al. > Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-05.txt > Pages : 41 > Date : 2008-12-14 > > Traffic engineered Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS-TE) is > deployed in providers' core networks. As providers plan to grow these > networks, they need to understand whether existing protocols and > implementations can support the network sizes that they are planning. > > This document presents an analysis of some of the scaling concerns > for the number of Label Switching Paths (LSPs) in MPLS-TE core > networks, and examines the value of two techniques (LSP hierarchies, > and multipoint-to-point LSPs) for improving scaling. The intention is > to motivate the development of appropriate deployment techniques and > protocol extensions to enable the application of MPLS-TE in large > networks. > > This document only considers the question of achieving scalability > for the support of point-to-point MPLS-TE LSPs. Point-to-multipoint > MPLS-TE LSPs are for future study. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-05.txt > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From osenthald@aibs.org Sun Dec 14 10:31:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DA23A68AA for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:31:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -25.395 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-25.395 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_60=1, DNS_FROM_RFC_BOGUSMX=1.482, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=2.219, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id slZ3yXh47Zkx for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:31:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from c-69-138-195-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net (c-69-138-195-229.hsd1.md.comcast.net [69.138.195.229]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 271823A6768 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:31:52 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081214183153.271823A6768@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:31:52 -0800 (PST) Having trouble viewing this email?
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From mlin@acdivoca.org.az Mon Dec 15 06:46:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5853A6983 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:46:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -46.561 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-46.561 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, DNS_FROM_RFC_BOGUSMX=1.482, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HELO_MISMATCH_DE=1.448, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=2.219, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o2iLPaLSBYRi for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:46:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from alcedo-it.de (unknown [89.232.4.237]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 875373A67F0 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:46:31 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: , December 10% off From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081215144632.875373A67F0@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:46:31 -0800 (PST) Click here to view as a webpage From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 15 07:21:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B313A6A29; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:21:15 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id A71CD3A6A17; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:21:12 -0800 (PST) X-idtracker: yes From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Message-Id: <20081215152112.A71CD3A6A17@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:21:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: mpls mailing list , mpls chair , Internet Architecture Board , RFC Editor Subject: [mpls] Document Action: 'An Analysis of Scaling Issues in MPLS-TE Core Networks' to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org The IESG has approved the following document: - 'An Analysis of Scaling Issues in MPLS-TE Core Networks ' as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Ross Callon and David Ward. A URL of this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-05.txt Technical Summary This informational document presents an analysis of some of the scaling concerns for the number of Label Switching Paths (LSPs) in MPLS-TE core networks, and examines the value of two techniques (LSP hierarchies, and multipoint-to-point LSPs) for improving scaling. The intention is to motivate the development of appropriate deployment techniques and protocol extensions to enable the application of MPLS-TE in large networks. This document only considers the question of achieving scalability for the support of point-to-point MPLS-TE LSPs. Point-to-multipoint MPLS-TE LSPs are for future study. Working Group Summary No controversy reported (see PROTO writeup by Loa Andersson in the ID Tracker). Several WG participants expressed an interest in knowing how the scaling properties are affected by fast reroute, and how P2MP MPLS-TE scales. It was agreed that these issues constitute more advanced questions and should be addressed in separate drafts. Document Quality As an analysis of scaling properties, this document does not specify anything that could or would be implemented. This document was reviewed by the MPLS and CCAMP WGs, and underwent IETF last call without any controversy nor complaints. It has been updated based on Gen-Art comments. The algorithms developed in this document have been applied to understand MPLS-TE and PBB-TE deployments by several vendors. Personnel Loa Andersson is the Document Shepherd for this document. Ross Callon is the Responsible Area Director. _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From maejima-k@ambia.co.jp Mon Dec 15 07:39:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE443A679C for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:39:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -21.713 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-21.713 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VTI1i6oc+2Jr for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from alston.com (unknown [89.142.60.45]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A55A28C0E9 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:39:48 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Your order From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081215153949.9A55A28C0E9@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:39:48 -0800 (PST) Having trouble viewing this email?
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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 15 08:11:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138C03A6829; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:11:58 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FCE3A6829 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:11:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ioplzaUuXHLc for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from softy.ision.net (softy.ision.net [194.163.250.97]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F0A3A6816 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from paul.de.easynet.net ([195.180.208.152] helo=paul.adoffice.local.de.easynet.net) by softy.ision.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LCG2t-0000rP-8l; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:11:47 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:11:46 +0100 Message-ID: <7000E71D8C525042A815432358B2F124020644DF@paul.adoffice.local.de.easynet.net> In-Reply-To: <3AE3937F39A3412B962F7CF950469560@your029b8cecfe> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-04.txt thread-index: AclUm6yG9zoYQUzDQASqYgKur6O0+QKMbC/w References: <20081202163001.700BB3A6A12@core3.amsl.com> <3AE3937F39A3412B962F7CF950469560@your029b8cecfe> From: "Ilya Varlashkin" To: "Adrian Farrel" , Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-04.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Hi, Question to authors of the draft: the document basically considers only number of LSP as gauge of growth, but is it not important to take into account actual data structures used to store LSP-related info internally? E.g. if LSP's are stored in one-dimentional array/list then document describes scenario accurately, but if on the other hand some tree-like structure is used, then memory requirements may grow faster than number of LSP's and could be not just O(M^K) but something like O(L*M^K). This may be not an issue with control plane on the routing processor, but could face additional restriction when resulting data structures need to be uploaded to line cards. Above said is not to diminish value of your document, it's important reference already, just a thought for future updates. Cheers, iLya > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:33 PM > To: mpls@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D > Action:draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-04.txt > > Hi, > > New revision is a few minor editorial things resulting from > GenArt review in IETF last call. > > RFC-diff will show them to you. > > Thanks, > Adrian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:30 PM > Subject: I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-04.txt > > > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label > Switching Working > > Group of the IETF. > > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling > -analysis-04.txt > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 15 08:49:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4863A69ED; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:49:44 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1203A69ED for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:49:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.938 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.938 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.660, BAYES_00=-2.599, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WOemcVHTnzRp for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1444B3A67F0 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id mBFGnIvH004067; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:49:19 GMT Received: from your029b8cecfe (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBFGnHlb004018; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:49:18 GMT Message-ID: <84DFEA5D805940CDA70CF5B094D7C0EC@your029b8cecfe> From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Ilya Varlashkin" , References: <20081202163001.700BB3A6A12@core3.amsl.com> <3AE3937F39A3412B962F7CF950469560@your029b8cecfe> <7000E71D8C525042A815432358B2F124020644DF@paul.adoffice.local.de.easynet.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:49:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-te-scaling-analysis-04.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Hi Ilya, > Question to authors of the draft: the document basically considers > only number of LSP as gauge of growth, but is it not important to > take into account actual data structures used to store LSP-related > info internally? Well, in fact the I-D concentrates on the number of LSP segment states (this is represented as X(n) in the draft). We recognise that scalability is a function of the number of LSP segment states. > E.g. if LSP's are stored in one-dimentional array/list then > document describes scenario accurately, but if on the other hand some > tree-like structure is used, then memory requirements may grow faster > than number of LSP's and could be not just O(M^K) but something like > O(L*M^K). This may be not an issue with control plane on the routing > processor, but could face additional restriction when resulting data > structures need to be uploaded to line cards. This is true, but I would say that the wrinkles of individual implementations are also not in scope. I suppose it would be possible to invent an implementation where the memory requirements scale as O(n**2) for the number of LSP segments. But that would be a silly implementation! We have tried to focus on the basic factors that cause scaling changes. I guess that an implementaiton that does not scale linearly with the number of LSP segments can still use this work to determine how it will scale by apply its own function on top of the X(n) function. > Above said is not to diminish value of your document, it's important > reference already, just a thought for future updates. 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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 17 23:45:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A9C28C1FA; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:45:03 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 4695B3A6B74; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:45:01 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081218074501.4695B3A6B74@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:45:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-igp-sync-04.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. Title : LDP IGP Synchronization Author(s) : L. Fang Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-igp-sync-04.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2008-12-17 In certain networks there is a dependency on edge-to-edge Label Switched Paths (LSPs) setup by Label Distribution Protocol (LDP), e.g., networks that are used for MultiProtocol Label Switching (MPLS) Virtual Private Network (VPN) applications. For such applications it is not possible to rely on Internet Protocol (IP) forwarding if the MPLS LSP is not operating appropriately. Blackholing of labeled traffic can occur in situations where the Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP) is operational on a link but LDP is not operational on that link. While the link could still be used for IP forwarding, it is not useful for MPLS forwarding, for example, MPLS VPN; Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) route free core; or IP address carried in the packet is out of the RFC 1918 [RFC 1918] space. This document describes a mechanism to avoid traffic loss due to this condition without introducing any protocol changes. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-igp-sync-04.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-igp-sync-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-12-17233558.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --NextPart-- From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 18 01:36:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF043A68C0; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:36:38 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5743A68C0 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:36:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LyncmTNvohTo for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from softy.ision.net (softy.ision.net [194.163.250.97]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99423A6878 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from paul.de.easynet.net ([195.180.208.152] helo=paul.adoffice.local.de.easynet.net) by softy.ision.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LDFIx-0005G6-Ho for mpls@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:36:27 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:36:27 +0100 Message-ID: <7000E71D8C525042A815432358B2F124020644F2@paul.adoffice.local.de.easynet.net> In-Reply-To: <20081218074501.4695B3A6B74@core3.amsl.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-igp-sync-04.txt thread-index: Aclg5LxMZxUrtWQWSVemtxiAV79hzQAC9/wg References: <20081218074501.4695B3A6B74@core3.amsl.com> From: "Ilya Varlashkin" To: Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action:draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-igp-sync-04.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I've just went through the draft and the way it deals with broadcast networks seems to be quite harsh. Section 3 says that on broadcast links traffic may be diverted from all nodes due to single LDP session. Even if it's controlled by policy, this is heavy hit and undesirable. Couldn't following solution work in case of ISIS used as IGP (haven't thought yet of OSPF)? 1) if node involved in new LDP session setup is non-DR, delay advance from INIT to UP until LDP sync is achieved (so neighbor state in the ISIS TLV #240 is set to INIT for new LDP peer) 2) DR seeing HELLO PDU with such state should review all other HELLO PDU's recently seen on the interface, and: a) if there are more PDU's listing that neighbor (LDP peer from step 1) in non-UP state than PDU's listing it as UP, then set cost from pseudo-node to that neighbor to 0xFFFFFE (when normally it's zero) b) if there are more UP PDU's than non-UP reset cost from pseudo-node to that neighbor back to zero Alternatively condition in step 2a could be strengthened to " if there is at least one PDU with non-UP state set cost to 0xFFFFFE". Could that work? Cheers, iLya _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 18 01:56:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35FB3A69BF; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:56:34 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165113A69BF for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:56:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.049 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.049 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.310, BAYES_20=-0.74, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lkNJbJHmTgKp for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:56:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044AE3A682A for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:56:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id mBI9trIH031250; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:55:53 GMT Received: from your029b8cecfe (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBI9tqQA031225; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:55:52 GMT Message-ID: <4CB5D38EFADF41789163EA56F49C8789@your029b8cecfe> From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:55:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: Ross Callon Subject: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Hi, Although this I-D is past WG last call, a couple of interesting wrinkles have been raised by Nic Neate and Subodh Kumar. I plan to pick these off one at a time and fire emails to the list in case anyone wants to object. Probably, by the time we are done, we will need a further WG last call, but the chairs will judge. Cheers, Adrian === Issue 1 How to find the entries in the mplsXCTable corresponding to the cross-connects for a P2MP LSP. According to RFC3813, the mplsXCTable has three indexes: mplsXCIndex MplsIndexType, mplsXCInSegmentIndex MplsIndexType, mplsXCOutSegmentIndex MplsIndexType, In the P2MP TE MIB we currently have the ruling that all values of mplsXCIndex for the same LSP MUST be the same. However, the only way to navigate from the LSP to the XC is using mplsTunnelXCPointer in the entry in mplsTunnelTable. Since this is a RowPointer, it is not clear that it will always point to the first XC entry for the LSP. That makes walking the MIB a bit of a mess. I propose to fix this as follows: - mplsTunnelXCPointer is not used for p2mp LSPs and, if present, MUST return 0.0 - Restate that entries in mplsXCTable for the same P2MP LSP MUST have the same value of mplsXCIndex - Add a new object to mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable called mplsTeP2mpTunnelP2mpXcIndex. The value of this object gives the value of mplsXCIndex for all cross-connect entries for this LSP Thus one can walk the XC entries for a particular P2MP LSP by doing GetOrGetNext (followed by GetNext) for the index values: mplsXCIndex = the value of mplsTeP2mpTunnelP2mpXcIndex mplsXCInSegmentIndex = 0x0 mplsXCOutSegmentIndex = 0x0 Does this work for everyone? 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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 19 01:30:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE54F3A69F2; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:30:22 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45003A69F2 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:30:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.248 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.351, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0n1B453OAL5j for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from enfiets2.dataconnection.com (enfiets2.dataconnection.com [192.91.191.39]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA433A6851 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk (172.18.10.27) by enfiets2.dataconnection.com (172.18.4.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.336.0; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:31:23 +0000 Received: from ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk ([172.18.10.27]) by ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk ([172.18.10.27]) with mapi; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:30:54 +0000 From: Nic Neate To: Aria - Adrian Farrel Personal , "mpls@lists.ietf.org" Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:30:52 +0000 Thread-Topic: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB Thread-Index: Aclg9v9L85DBPHkiTeqP3afOLW8PSQABd7YQ Message-ID: <11DE3EEC54A8A44EAD99D8C0D3FD72075C6FDB322E@ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk> References: <4CB5D38EFADF41789163EA56F49C8789@your029b8cecfe> In-Reply-To: <4CB5D38EFADF41789163EA56F49C8789@your029b8cecfe> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Ross Callon Subject: Re: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Looks like a good idea to me. One minor point: I think this change means that at a fast reroute merge point you lose information about which in segment is protected and which are merging backups. (It's still possible to work out which out segments are protected using the mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestBranchOutSegment.) I wondered if that could be remedied by also adding an mplsTeP2mpTunnelInSegmentIndex, but that would be tricky to define at re-merge nodes (which although undesirable, can exist). Extensions to the LSR MIB might be a better way to detail protected and backup in segments, out segments and XCs. Nic -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Aria - Adrian Farrel Personal Sent: 18 December 2008 09:56 To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: Ross Callon Subject: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB Hi, Although this I-D is past WG last call, a couple of interesting wrinkles have been raised by Nic Neate and Subodh Kumar. I plan to pick these off one at a time and fire emails to the list in case anyone wants to object. Probably, by the time we are done, we will need a further WG last call, but the chairs will judge. Cheers, Adrian === Issue 1 How to find the entries in the mplsXCTable corresponding to the cross-connects for a P2MP LSP. According to RFC3813, the mplsXCTable has three indexes: mplsXCIndex MplsIndexType, mplsXCInSegmentIndex MplsIndexType, mplsXCOutSegmentIndex MplsIndexType, In the P2MP TE MIB we currently have the ruling that all values of mplsXCIndex for the same LSP MUST be the same. However, the only way to navigate from the LSP to the XC is using mplsTunnelXCPointer in the entry in mplsTunnelTable. Since this is a RowPointer, it is not clear that it will always point to the first XC entry for the LSP. That makes walking the MIB a bit of a mess. I propose to fix this as follows: - mplsTunnelXCPointer is not used for p2mp LSPs and, if present, MUST return 0.0 - Restate that entries in mplsXCTable for the same P2MP LSP MUST have the same value of mplsXCIndex - Add a new object to mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable called mplsTeP2mpTunnelP2mpXcIndex. The value of this object gives the value of mplsXCIndex for all cross-connect entries for this LSP Thus one can walk the XC entries for a particular P2MP LSP by doing GetOrGetNext (followed by GetNext) for the index values: mplsXCIndex = the value of mplsTeP2mpTunnelP2mpXcIndex mplsXCInSegmentIndex = 0x0 mplsXCOutSegmentIndex = 0x0 Does this work for everyone? Thanks, Adrian _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 19 02:45:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2785A3A6916; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:45:18 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AC43A6916 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:45:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.656 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.656 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.342, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_21=0.6, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PElmH5lXJ2Wm for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355253A67AD for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id mBJAj3kk019800; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:45:04 GMT Received: from your029b8cecfe (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBJAj1bj019743; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:45:02 GMT Message-ID: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Nic Neate" , "mpls@lists.ietf.org" References: <4CB5D38EFADF41789163EA56F49C8789@your029b8cecfe> <11DE3EEC54A8A44EAD99D8C0D3FD72075C6FDB322E@ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:44:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Hi Nic, I'm not familiar with the FRR MIB module, and AFAIK nothing has been done to extend that module for P2MP FRR, but shouldn't the information you're looking for come from there? For FRR, isn't the "bypass tunnel" a different LSP? I think that means it will point to a new mplsXCTable index to cover its own XCs (which may share segments with the XCs for the protected LSP). The hardware doesn't care about whether it is branching or merging for one reason or another, so the mplsXCTable should simply contain XC information and no indication of why the XCs exist. OTOH, the mplsTunnelTable (and hence the mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable) has one entry for each instance (i.e., LSP-ID) of the tunnel. This covers mb4b (with the exception of group-ID-based changes that you raised before and I plan to address next). Cheers, Adrian (May your festive season be everything you ever wanted it to be) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nic Neate" To: "Aria - Adrian Farrel Personal" ; "mpls@lists.ietf.org" Cc: "Ross Callon" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:30 AM Subject: RE: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB Looks like a good idea to me. One minor point: I think this change means that at a fast reroute merge point you lose information about which in segment is protected and which are merging backups. (It's still possible to work out which out segments are protected using the mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestBranchOutSegment.) I wondered if that could be remedied by also adding an mplsTeP2mpTunnelInSegmentIndex, but that would be tricky to define at re-merge nodes (which although undesirable, can exist). Extensions to the LSR MIB might be a better way to detail protected and backup in segments, out segments and XCs. Nic -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Aria - Adrian Farrel Personal Sent: 18 December 2008 09:56 To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: Ross Callon Subject: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB Hi, Although this I-D is past WG last call, a couple of interesting wrinkles have been raised by Nic Neate and Subodh Kumar. I plan to pick these off one at a time and fire emails to the list in case anyone wants to object. Probably, by the time we are done, we will need a further WG last call, but the chairs will judge. Cheers, Adrian === Issue 1 How to find the entries in the mplsXCTable corresponding to the cross-connects for a P2MP LSP. According to RFC3813, the mplsXCTable has three indexes: mplsXCIndex MplsIndexType, mplsXCInSegmentIndex MplsIndexType, mplsXCOutSegmentIndex MplsIndexType, In the P2MP TE MIB we currently have the ruling that all values of mplsXCIndex for the same LSP MUST be the same. However, the only way to navigate from the LSP to the XC is using mplsTunnelXCPointer in the entry in mplsTunnelTable. Since this is a RowPointer, it is not clear that it will always point to the first XC entry for the LSP. That makes walking the MIB a bit of a mess. I propose to fix this as follows: - mplsTunnelXCPointer is not used for p2mp LSPs and, if present, MUST return 0.0 - Restate that entries in mplsXCTable for the same P2MP LSP MUST have the same value of mplsXCIndex - Add a new object to mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable called mplsTeP2mpTunnelP2mpXcIndex. The value of this object gives the value of mplsXCIndex for all cross-connect entries for this LSP Thus one can walk the XC entries for a particular P2MP LSP by doing GetOrGetNext (followed by GetNext) for the index values: mplsXCIndex = the value of mplsTeP2mpTunnelP2mpXcIndex mplsXCInSegmentIndex = 0x0 mplsXCOutSegmentIndex = 0x0 Does this work for everyone? 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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 19 03:19:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10E43A69F8; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:19:07 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B113A6851 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:19:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_21=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pjY0oa2Oi74x for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:19:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from enfiets2.dataconnection.com (enfiets2.dataconnection.com [192.91.191.39]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1BF3A69F8 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:19:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk (172.18.10.27) by enfiets2.dataconnection.com (172.18.4.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.336.0; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:20:08 +0000 Received: from ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk ([172.18.10.27]) by ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk ([172.18.10.27]) with mapi; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:19:39 +0000 From: Nic Neate To: Aria - Adrian Farrel Personal , "mpls@lists.ietf.org" Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:19:36 +0000 Thread-Topic: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB Thread-Index: AclhxvUf29GBdl/DR6KAJO6UhKYStwAA39gQ Message-ID: <11DE3EEC54A8A44EAD99D8C0D3FD72075C6FE00763@ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk> References: <4CB5D38EFADF41789163EA56F49C8789@your029b8cecfe> <11DE3EEC54A8A44EAD99D8C0D3FD72075C6FDB322E@ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Hi Adrian, Lets not worry about this for now. However FRR XCs are modelled, I don't think it's a good enough reason not to make your proposed change to the P2MP MIB. (FWIW, I agree with you on bypass tunnels. I was thinking of detour LSPs for one-to-one backup, and also XCs at facility PLRs and merge points for data being tunneled into and out of bypass LSPs. IMO, they need to share the mplsXCIndex of the protected LSP.) My best wishes for your Christmas period also. May all your hopes and dreams come true, Nic -----Original Message----- From: Aria - Adrian Farrel Personal Sent: 19 December 2008 10:45 To: Nic Neate; mpls@lists.ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB Hi Nic, I'm not familiar with the FRR MIB module, and AFAIK nothing has been done to extend that module for P2MP FRR, but shouldn't the information you're looking for come from there? For FRR, isn't the "bypass tunnel" a different LSP? I think that means it will point to a new mplsXCTable index to cover its own XCs (which may share segments with the XCs for the protected LSP). The hardware doesn't care about whether it is branching or merging for one reason or another, so the mplsXCTable should simply contain XC information and no indication of why the XCs exist. OTOH, the mplsTunnelTable (and hence the mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable) has one entry for each instance (i.e., LSP-ID) of the tunnel. This covers mb4b (with the exception of group-ID-based changes that you raised before and I plan to address next). Cheers, Adrian (May your festive season be everything you ever wanted it to be) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nic Neate" To: "Aria - Adrian Farrel Personal" ; "mpls@lists.ietf.org" Cc: "Ross Callon" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:30 AM Subject: RE: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB Looks like a good idea to me. One minor point: I think this change means that at a fast reroute merge point you lose information about which in segment is protected and which are merging backups. (It's still possible to work out which out segments are protected using the mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestBranchOutSegment.) I wondered if that could be remedied by also adding an mplsTeP2mpTunnelInSegmentIndex, but that would be tricky to define at re-merge nodes (which although undesirable, can exist). Extensions to the LSR MIB might be a better way to detail protected and backup in segments, out segments and XCs. Nic -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Aria - Adrian Farrel Personal Sent: 18 December 2008 09:56 To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: Ross Callon Subject: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB Hi, Although this I-D is past WG last call, a couple of interesting wrinkles have been raised by Nic Neate and Subodh Kumar. I plan to pick these off one at a time and fire emails to the list in case anyone wants to object. Probably, by the time we are done, we will need a further WG last call, but the chairs will judge. Cheers, Adrian === Issue 1 How to find the entries in the mplsXCTable corresponding to the cross-connects for a P2MP LSP. According to RFC3813, the mplsXCTable has three indexes: mplsXCIndex MplsIndexType, mplsXCInSegmentIndex MplsIndexType, mplsXCOutSegmentIndex MplsIndexType, In the P2MP TE MIB we currently have the ruling that all values of mplsXCIndex for the same LSP MUST be the same. However, the only way to navigate from the LSP to the XC is using mplsTunnelXCPointer in the entry in mplsTunnelTable. Since this is a RowPointer, it is not clear that it will always point to the first XC entry for the LSP. That makes walking the MIB a bit of a mess. I propose to fix this as follows: - mplsTunnelXCPointer is not used for p2mp LSPs and, if present, MUST return 0.0 - Restate that entries in mplsXCTable for the same P2MP LSP MUST have the same value of mplsXCIndex - Add a new object to mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable called mplsTeP2mpTunnelP2mpXcIndex. The value of this object gives the value of mplsXCIndex for all cross-connect entries for this LSP Thus one can walk the XC entries for a particular P2MP LSP by doing GetOrGetNext (followed by GetNext) for the index values: mplsXCIndex = the value of mplsTeP2mpTunnelP2mpXcIndex mplsXCInSegmentIndex = 0x0 mplsXCOutSegmentIndex = 0x0 Does this work for everyone? Thanks, Adrian _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 19 04:50:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA313A69B2; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:50:10 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A6A3A68E5 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:50:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tt6XBXapHYSR for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lucidvision.com (lucidvision.com [72.71.250.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0663A6830 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6113226BE9; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:50:00 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at www.lucidvision.com Received: from lucidvision.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (static-72-71-250-34.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9OyIPWhWOvpb; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:49:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.120] (static-72-71-250-36.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net [72.71.250.36]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7025A3226BDA; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:49:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9AB13285-A251-47E0-A776-2E506FF90BCE@lucidvision.com> From: Thomas Nadeau To: Nic Neate In-Reply-To: <11DE3EEC54A8A44EAD99D8C0D3FD72075C6FDB322E@ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:49:57 -0500 References: <4CB5D38EFADF41789163EA56F49C8789@your029b8cecfe> <11DE3EEC54A8A44EAD99D8C0D3FD72075C6FDB322E@ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: "mpls@lists.ietf.org" , Ross Callon Subject: Re: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org > Looks like a good idea to me. > > One minor point: I think this change means that at a fast reroute > merge point you lose information about which in segment is protected > and which are merging backups. (It's still possible to work out > which out segments are protected using the > mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestBranchOutSegment.) > > I wondered if that could be remedied by also adding an > mplsTeP2mpTunnelInSegmentIndex, but that would be tricky to define > at re-merge nodes (which although undesirable, can exist). > Extensions to the LSR MIB might be a better way to detail protected > and backup in segments, out segments and XCs. Why do you think the FRR MIB doens't reveal the LSP that is used for the bypass? That MIB points at the segment(s) being used for the bypass, regardless of how they are set up (p2mp or p2p). --Tom > Nic > > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Aria - Adrian Farrel Personal > Sent: 18 December 2008 09:56 > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: Ross Callon > Subject: [mpls] Resolving wrinkles in the P2MP TE MIB > > Hi, > > Although this I-D is past WG last call, a couple of interesting > wrinkles have been raised by Nic Neate and Subodh Kumar. > > I plan to pick these off one at a time and fire emails to the list > in case anyone wants to object. > > Probably, by the time we are done, we will need a further WG last > call, but the chairs will judge. > > Cheers, > Adrian > > === > > Issue 1 > How to find the entries in the mplsXCTable corresponding to the > cross-connects for a P2MP LSP. > > According to RFC3813, the mplsXCTable has three indexes: > mplsXCIndex MplsIndexType, > mplsXCInSegmentIndex MplsIndexType, > mplsXCOutSegmentIndex MplsIndexType, > > In the P2MP TE MIB we currently have the ruling that all values of > mplsXCIndex for the same LSP MUST be the same. > > However, the only way to navigate from the LSP to the XC is using > mplsTunnelXCPointer in the entry in mplsTunnelTable. Since this is a > RowPointer, it is not clear that it will always point to the first > XC entry for the LSP. That makes walking the MIB a bit of a mess. > > I propose to fix this as follows: > - mplsTunnelXCPointer is not used for p2mp LSPs and, > if present, MUST return 0.0 > - Restate that entries in mplsXCTable for the same P2MP LSP > MUST have the same value of mplsXCIndex > - Add a new object to mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable called > mplsTeP2mpTunnelP2mpXcIndex. The value of this object > gives the value of mplsXCIndex for all cross-connect entries > for this LSP > > Thus one can walk the XC entries for a particular P2MP LSP by doing > GetOrGetNext (followed by GetNext) for the index values: > mplsXCIndex = the value of mplsTeP2mpTunnelP2mpXcIndex > mplsXCInSegmentIndex = 0x0 > mplsXCOutSegmentIndex = 0x0 > > Does this work for everyone? > > Thanks, > Adrian > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From kidney5@amc.toshiba.co.jp Fri Dec 19 07:39:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13733A6931 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:39:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -46.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-46.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jObzFCt6WLM5 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:39:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from aegiscomputer.com (unknown [190.159.27.138]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C19B3A68C5 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:39:15 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Don't disappear now! 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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 19 11:40:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793AC3A68CD; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:40:34 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3733E3A68CD for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:40:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.962 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.962 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.636, BAYES_00=-2.599, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eM44afDZWpOh for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFEA3A681F for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id mBJJeJSE024220; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:40:21 GMT Received: from your029b8cecfe (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBJJeInv024214; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:40:19 GMT Message-ID: <2B8366442CBC49DEB7DA4CDCA6707123@your029b8cecfe> From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Nic Neate" References: <200808181031.m7IAVHCs013260@mta6.iomartmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:40:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Small bug fix in the P2MP MIB X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Hi Nic, Way back in August you raised an important issue with the MPLS-TE P2MP MIB. Sorry to have taken so long to get around to working on this. > I'd like to fix what I believe to be a bug in the P2MP MIB. While > it has passed WG last call, I don't think it has yet completed AD > review, so that should provide a window in which to make this > change if people agree with it. Yup. We pulled the I-D back from the AD to have another look at it. As it turns out, Subodh also found an issue and we have been able to fix that at the same time. You wrote... > The mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable contains three fields for reporting the > upstream sub-group IDs received on Path messages for a P2MP LSP. > - mplsTeP2mpTunnelSubGroupOriginType > - mplsTeP2mpTunnelSubGroupOrigin > - mplsTeP2mpTunnelSubGroupID > > However, an LSR may receive multiple Path messages for a single P2MP > LSP, each for a different sub-group. See RFC 4875 section 4.3. I would > like to be able to report all of the upstream sub-groups for a P2MP LSP > in the MIB, not just one of them. Yes, you're right. I know that the authors debated making these three objects indexes to the table. This would have meant that was effectively one entry for each sub-group received - that is, for each path message received for the LSP. However, we traded this off for the sparse augments relationship that allows us to tell whether an LSP is a P2P or P2MP LSP. > A single S2L sub-LSP will always be in a single Path message > and sub-group (except during transient re-optimization conditions). I'm not sure this is true. In the process of moving a destination from one sub-group to another, won't it appear in both sub-groups? > I think the upstream sub-group fields should therefore be moved > to the mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable, so that the upstream sub- > group for each S2L sub-LSP can be reported. This is an option, but it seems to mean that we would end up repeating rather a lot of data. Perhaps we can do that because the presence of the data in the MIB objects does not imply any duplication in storage at the agent - just duplication on the wire and in the NMS. > The mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable already contains fields for the > downstream sub-group IDs, so the moved fields would also have > to be renamed as follows. > - mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestUpSubGroupOriginType > - mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestUpSubGroupOrigin > - mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestUpSubGroupID I heard no-one disagree with this on the list. I have been playing with some other options to make a larger change to the tables to more closely model the relationships between data objects and to avoid duplicating data, but this would really be a large change. The smaller change proposed by Nic seems less disruptive. So I propose to pick up Nic's ideas and roll them into a new revision (he was kind enough to send me some revised text). I'll post a new version shortly including changes for Subodh and Nic, and I'll also do a diff so that folk can see what has changed. Then we will ask the WG chairs if they want to do another WG last call. Thanks, Adrian _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 19 13:54:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9504228C158; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:54:36 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0565F28C158 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:54:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.994 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.994 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.605, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uNPXlkJ2aoBa for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8887A28C14E for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id mBJLsHnq006354; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:54:19 GMT Received: from your029b8cecfe (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBJLsGnE006348; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:54:16 GMT Message-ID: <9D7A7846CE41467897C29080EDC9765B@your029b8cecfe> From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Nic Neate" References: <200808181031.m7IAVHCs013260@mta6.iomartmail.com> <2B8366442CBC49DEB7DA4CDCA6707123@your029b8cecfe> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:54:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] Thinking further about: Small bug fix in the P2MP MIB X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Hi again Nic, Thinking further about this issue (when I came to write the ASN.1)... Your proposal is to move the source sub-group information from the mplsTeP2mptable to the mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable as follows... mplsTunnelTable | Index {tunnel-index, | tunnel-inst, | ingress, | P2MP-ID (=egress)} v mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable | Index {tunnel-index, | tunnel-inst, | ingress, | P2MP-ID (=egress)} | |--> |--> mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable Index {tunnel-index, tunnel-inst, ingress, P2MP-ID (=egress), dest-subgroup-source, dest-subgroup-ID, destination} Contains {source-subgroup-source, source-subgroup-ID} The problem with this is that one destination may be in two received sub-groups during transition from one sub-group to another. This is not captured in your proposal because a destination can only be in two source-subgroups if it is also in two destination sub-groups. We can fix this one of two ways. 1. source-subgroup-source and source-subgroup-ID become indexes to mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable. This is not so hard, but it is unclear how we would walk the MIB. For example, if we put dest-subgroup-source and dest-subgroup-ID first then it is easy to walk to find all of the destinations to go on one outgoing Path, but it is hard to walk to find all of the destinations received on one incoming Path. And vice versa. 2. Add a new table to reflect the existence of the incoming (i.e., upstream) sub-group. mplsTunnelTable | Index {tunnel-index, | tunnel-inst, | ingress, | P2MP-ID (=egress)} v mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable | Index {tunnel-index, | tunnel-inst, | ingress, | P2MP-ID (=egress)} | |--> |--> mplsTeP2mpIncomingSubgroupTable (New) | Index {tunnel-index, | tunnel-inst, | ingress, | P2MP-ID (=egress), | source-subgroup-source, | source-subgroup-ID} | |--> |--> mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable Index {tunnel-index, tunnel-inst, ingress, P2MP-ID (=egress), dest-subgroup-source, dest-subgroup-ID, destination} Contents unchanged from current I-D Opinions? Thanks, Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Nic Neate" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [mpls] Small bug fix in the P2MP MIB > Hi Nic, > > Way back in August you raised an important issue with the MPLS-TE P2MP > MIB. > > Sorry to have taken so long to get around to working on this. > >> I'd like to fix what I believe to be a bug in the P2MP MIB. While >> it has passed WG last call, I don't think it has yet completed AD >> review, so that should provide a window in which to make this >> change if people agree with it. > > Yup. > We pulled the I-D back from the AD to have another look at it. > As it turns out, Subodh also found an issue and we have been able to fix > that at the same time. > > You wrote... > >> The mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable contains three fields for reporting the >> upstream sub-group IDs received on Path messages for a P2MP LSP. >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelSubGroupOriginType >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelSubGroupOrigin >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelSubGroupID >> >> However, an LSR may receive multiple Path messages for a single P2MP >> LSP, each for a different sub-group. See RFC 4875 section 4.3. I would >> like to be able to report all of the upstream sub-groups for a P2MP LSP >> in the MIB, not just one of them. > > Yes, you're right. > > I know that the authors debated making these three objects indexes to the > table. This would have meant that was effectively one entry for each > sub-group received - that is, for each path message received for the LSP. > > However, we traded this off for the sparse augments relationship that > allows us to tell whether an LSP is a P2P or P2MP LSP. > >> A single S2L sub-LSP will always be in a single Path message >> and sub-group (except during transient re-optimization conditions). > > I'm not sure this is true. > In the process of moving a destination from one sub-group to another, > won't it appear in both sub-groups? > >> I think the upstream sub-group fields should therefore be moved >> to the mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable, so that the upstream sub- >> group for each S2L sub-LSP can be reported. > > This is an option, but it seems to mean that we would end up repeating > rather a lot of data. Perhaps we can do that because the presence of the > data in the MIB objects does not imply any duplication in storage at the > agent - just duplication on the wire and in the NMS. > >> The mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable already contains fields for the >> downstream sub-group IDs, so the moved fields would also have >> to be renamed as follows. >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestUpSubGroupOriginType >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestUpSubGroupOrigin >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestUpSubGroupID > > I heard no-one disagree with this on the list. > > I have been playing with some other options to make a larger change to the > tables to more closely model the relationships between data objects and to > avoid duplicating data, but this would really be a large change. The > smaller change proposed by Nic seems less disruptive. > > So I propose to pick up Nic's ideas and roll them into a new revision (he > was kind enough to send me some revised text). > > I'll post a new version shortly including changes for Subodh and Nic, and > I'll also do a diff so that folk can see what has changed. > > Then we will ask the WG chairs if they want to do another WG last call. > > Thanks, > Adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From lcopiasshared.spw@alcoa.com.br Fri Dec 19 15:47:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188293A67E5 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:47:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -23.487 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-23.487 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_VERIZON_P=2.144, HELO_EQ_AU=0.377, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xpph9ZpkneXm for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:46:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ambulance.net.au (pool-71-114-31-49.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.114.31.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C7C6F3A688B for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:46:56 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Discount price store: ID 01068 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081219234657.C7C6F3A688B@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:46:56 -0800 (PST) Dear Customer!
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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 22 10:21:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96B128C138; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:21:07 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0E228C138 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:21:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.301, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U01ONfsJ7tv1 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from enfiets1.dataconnection.com (enfiets1.dataconnection.com [192.91.191.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E33728C120 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk (172.18.10.27) by enfiets1.dataconnection.com (172.18.4.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.336.0; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:21:31 +0000 Received: from ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk ([172.18.10.27]) by ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk ([172.18.10.27]) with mapi; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:21:43 +0000 From: Nic Neate To: Aria - Adrian Farrel Personal Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:21:40 +0000 Thread-Topic: Thinking further about: Small bug fix in the P2MP MIB Thread-Index: AcliJHUUJo+f16x7QBiqZLTAcU8wfgCN0ciw Message-ID: <11DE3EEC54A8A44EAD99D8C0D3FD72075C6FE011A9@ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk> References: <200808181031.m7IAVHCs013260@mta6.iomartmail.com> <2B8366442CBC49DEB7DA4CDCA6707123@your029b8cecfe> <9D7A7846CE41467897C29080EDC9765B@your029b8cecfe> In-Reply-To: <9D7A7846CE41467897C29080EDC9765B@your029b8cecfe> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Thinking further about: Small bug fix in the P2MP MIB X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Hi Adrian, Thanks for picking this up. The fix I originally proposed was intended to be a minimal change to allow reasonable function. I agree it's not sufficient during sub-group-based re-optimization if the upstream sub-groups IDs change but downstream ones do not. (Although I suspect that most implementations will choose to always change the downstream sub-group IDs whenever the upstream ones change, that's not mandated by the protocol.) If folks are happy with making a more significant change to the MIB, then I think I favour your first suggestion (making the upstream sub-group IDs indices to the mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable). In your second suggestion, I'm not clear what the relationship between the mplsTeP2mpIncomingSubgroupTable and mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable is. How are multiple rows in the mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable with the same indices, but mapping to different mplsTeP2mpIncomingSubgroupTable rows allowed? Cheers, Nic -----Original Message----- From: Aria - Adrian Farrel Personal Sent: 19 December 2008 21:54 To: Nic Neate Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: Thinking further about: Small bug fix in the P2MP MIB Hi again Nic, Thinking further about this issue (when I came to write the ASN.1)... Your proposal is to move the source sub-group information from the mplsTeP2mptable to the mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable as follows... mplsTunnelTable | Index {tunnel-index, | tunnel-inst, | ingress, | P2MP-ID (=egress)} v mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable | Index {tunnel-index, | tunnel-inst, | ingress, | P2MP-ID (=egress)} | |--> |--> mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable Index {tunnel-index, tunnel-inst, ingress, P2MP-ID (=egress), dest-subgroup-source, dest-subgroup-ID, destination} Contains {source-subgroup-source, source-subgroup-ID} The problem with this is that one destination may be in two received sub-groups during transition from one sub-group to another. This is not captured in your proposal because a destination can only be in two source-subgroups if it is also in two destination sub-groups. We can fix this one of two ways. 1. source-subgroup-source and source-subgroup-ID become indexes to mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable. This is not so hard, but it is unclear how we would walk the MIB. For example, if we put dest-subgroup-source and dest-subgroup-ID first then it is easy to walk to find all of the destinations to go on one outgoing Path, but it is hard to walk to find all of the destinations received on one incoming Path. And vice versa. 2. Add a new table to reflect the existence of the incoming (i.e., upstream) sub-group. mplsTunnelTable | Index {tunnel-index, | tunnel-inst, | ingress, | P2MP-ID (=egress)} v mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable | Index {tunnel-index, | tunnel-inst, | ingress, | P2MP-ID (=egress)} | |--> |--> mplsTeP2mpIncomingSubgroupTable (New) | Index {tunnel-index, | tunnel-inst, | ingress, | P2MP-ID (=egress), | source-subgroup-source, | source-subgroup-ID} | |--> |--> mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable Index {tunnel-index, tunnel-inst, ingress, P2MP-ID (=egress), dest-subgroup-source, dest-subgroup-ID, destination} Contents unchanged from current I-D Opinions? Thanks, Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Nic Neate" Cc: Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [mpls] Small bug fix in the P2MP MIB > Hi Nic, > > Way back in August you raised an important issue with the MPLS-TE P2MP > MIB. > > Sorry to have taken so long to get around to working on this. > >> I'd like to fix what I believe to be a bug in the P2MP MIB. While >> it has passed WG last call, I don't think it has yet completed AD >> review, so that should provide a window in which to make this >> change if people agree with it. > > Yup. > We pulled the I-D back from the AD to have another look at it. > As it turns out, Subodh also found an issue and we have been able to fix > that at the same time. > > You wrote... > >> The mplsTeP2mpTunnelTable contains three fields for reporting the >> upstream sub-group IDs received on Path messages for a P2MP LSP. >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelSubGroupOriginType >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelSubGroupOrigin >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelSubGroupID >> >> However, an LSR may receive multiple Path messages for a single P2MP >> LSP, each for a different sub-group. See RFC 4875 section 4.3. I would >> like to be able to report all of the upstream sub-groups for a P2MP LSP >> in the MIB, not just one of them. > > Yes, you're right. > > I know that the authors debated making these three objects indexes to the > table. This would have meant that was effectively one entry for each > sub-group received - that is, for each path message received for the LSP. > > However, we traded this off for the sparse augments relationship that > allows us to tell whether an LSP is a P2P or P2MP LSP. > >> A single S2L sub-LSP will always be in a single Path message >> and sub-group (except during transient re-optimization conditions). > > I'm not sure this is true. > In the process of moving a destination from one sub-group to another, > won't it appear in both sub-groups? > >> I think the upstream sub-group fields should therefore be moved >> to the mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable, so that the upstream sub- >> group for each S2L sub-LSP can be reported. > > This is an option, but it seems to mean that we would end up repeating > rather a lot of data. Perhaps we can do that because the presence of the > data in the MIB objects does not imply any duplication in storage at the > agent - just duplication on the wire and in the NMS. > >> The mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestTable already contains fields for the >> downstream sub-group IDs, so the moved fields would also have >> to be renamed as follows. >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestUpSubGroupOriginType >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestUpSubGroupOrigin >> - mplsTeP2mpTunnelDestUpSubGroupID > > I heard no-one disagree with this on the list. > > I have been playing with some other options to make a larger change to the > tables to more closely model the relationships between data objects and to > avoid duplicating data, but this would really be a large change. The > smaller change proposed by Nic seems less disruptive. > > So I propose to pick up Nic's ideas and roll them into a new revision (he > was kind enough to send me some revised text). > > I'll post a new version shortly including changes for Subodh and Nic, and > I'll also do a diff so that folk can see what has changed. > > Then we will ask the WG chairs if they want to do another WG last call. > > Thanks, > Adrian > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From kab1@adamsbrothers.com Mon Dec 22 11:21:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A40028C143 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:21:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.202 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC=4.295, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BlMxo9YmGlir for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:21:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from 81-86-32-199.dsl.pipex.com (81-86-32-199.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.32.199]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 013BA28C13D for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:21:46 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: I had an accident, come now! 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From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 22 12:27:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BFC3A6AA7; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:27:02 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id 15B773A6A85; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:27:01 -0800 (PST) X-idtracker: yes From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Message-Id: <20081222202701.15B773A6A85@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:27:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: mpls mailing list , mpls chair , Internet Architecture Board , RFC Editor Subject: [mpls] Protocol Action: 'Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) label stack entry: "EXP" field renamed to "Traffic Class" field' to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) label stack entry: "EXP" field renamed to "Traffic Class" field ' as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Ross Callon and David Ward. A URL of this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-cosfield-def-08.txt Technical Summary The early Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) documents defined the format of the MPLS Label Stack. This includes a three bit field called the "EXP field". The exact use of this field was not defined by these documents, except to state that it was to be "reserved for experimental use". Although the intended use of the EXP field was as a "Class of Service" (CoS) field, it was not named the CoS field by these early documents because the use of such a CoS field was not considered to be sufficiently defined. Today a number of standards documents define its usage as a CoS field. To avoid misunderstanding about how this field may be used, it has become important to rename this field. This document changes the name of the field to the "Traffic Class field" ("TC field".) In doing so it also updates documents that define the current use of the EXP field. Working Group Summary Solid consensus (see PROTO writeup by George Swallow). Document Quality The RFCs that this document references and updates are widely implemented and deployed, and use the three bit "EXP" field as a class of service field. Thus the change of name for the field specified in this draft is consistent with widely deployed protocols and equipment (and consistent with the original intended use of this field). There are four informational RFCs (RFC 3272, RFC 3469, RFC 3564 and RFC 3985) that are listed as normative references. This is because this document makes manadatory changes to these RFCs (by changing the name of one field used by these RFCs). These downrefs were mentioned in the IETF last call. Personnel George Swallow is the document shepherd for this document. Ross Callon is the Responsible Area Director. RFC Editor Note Please update Section 2.2 (entitled "RFC 3270"), paragraph 7 (immediately after bullet "a." as follows: OLD The EXP field has been renamed to the TC field, and thus all references in RFC 3270 to EXP field SHOULD be taken to refer to the TC field. NEW The EXP field has been renamed to the TC field, and thus all references in RFC 3270 to EXP field now refer to the TC field. Please update the same section, approximately paragraph 11 (the first paragraph of the updated section 1.2 of RFC3270) as follows: OLD The EXP field has been renamed to the TC field, and thus all references in RFC 3270 to EXP field SHOULD be taken to refer to the TC field. However, we retain the acronym E-LSP (Explicitly TC-encoded-PSC LSP) as the acronym is in widespread use. NEW The EXP field has been renamed to the TC field, and thus all references in RFC 3270 to EXP field now refer to the TC field. However, we retain the acronym E-LSP (Explicitly TC-encoded-PSC LSP) as the acronym is in widespread use. Section 2.3 (entitled "RFC 5129"), please update the third paragraph as follows: OLD The EXP field has been renamed to the TC field, and thus all references in RFC 5129 to EXP field SHOULD be taken to refer to the TC field. NEW The EXP field has been renamed to the TC field, and thus all references in RFC 3270 to EXP field now refer to the TC field. Please update the first paragraph in section 2.4 as follows: OLD There are several places in the RFCs that has explicitly updated by this document that reference the "Exp field", sometimes they refer to the field as "Exp bits", "EXP bits" and "EXP". In all those instances the references SHOULD be taken to reference the TC field. NEW There are several places in the RFCs that are explicitly updated by this document that reference the "Exp field", sometimes they refer to the field as "Exp bits", "EXP bits" and "EXP". In all those instances the references now reference the TC field. Please update the following paragraph (second paragraph of section 2.4), last sentence, as follows: OLD For all RFCs, including but not limited to those mentioned in this paragraph, such references SHOULD be taken to reference the TC field. NEW For all RFCs, including but not limited to those mentioned in this paragraph, such references now reference the TC field. _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From oishik@als.aoyama.ac.jp Mon Dec 22 13:00:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D320F3A6AAD for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:00:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.649 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.649 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, HELO_EQ_PL=1.135, HOST_EQ_PL=1.95, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cnOrHggrCsFb for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from chello084010070006.chello.pl (chello084010070006.chello.pl [84.10.70.6]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C86C3A6915 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:00:27 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Can't find you, darling From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081222210028.2C86C3A6915@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:00:27 -0800 (PST) Having trouble viewing this email?
Click here to view as a webpage. From mpls-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 22 13:43:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FB628C11A; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:43:22 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: mpls@lists.ietf.org Delivered-To: mpls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id F00383A6A21; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:43:19 -0800 (PST) X-idtracker: yes From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Message-Id: <20081222214319.F00383A6A21@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:43:19 -0800 (PST) Cc: mpls mailing list , mpls chair , Internet Architecture Board , RFC Editor Subject: [mpls] Document Action: 'LDP IGP Synchronization' to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mpls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: mpls-bounces@ietf.org The IESG has approved the following document: - 'LDP IGP Synchronization ' as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group. The IESG contact persons are David Ward and Ross Callon. A URL of this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-igp-sync-04.txt Technical Summary In certain networks there is a dependency on edge-to-edge Label Switched Paths (LSPs) setup by Label Distribution Protocol (LDP), e.g., networks that are used for MultiProtocol Label Switching (MPLS) Virtual Private Network (VPN) applications. For such applications it is not possible to rely on Internet Protocol (IP) forwarding if the MPLS LSP is not operating appropriately. Blackholing of labeled traffic can occur in situations where the Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP) is operational on a link but LDP is not operational on that link. While the link could still be used for IP forwarding, it is not useful for MPLS forwarding, for example, MPLS VPN; Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) route free core; or IP address carried in the packet is out of the RFC 1918 [RFC 1918] space. This document describes a mechanism to avoid traffic loss due to this condition without introducing any protocol changes. Working Group Summary No dissent Document Quality There are several known interoperable implementations of this technology. The idea is now quite old. Personnel Dave Ward _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From jmack@24hourfit.com Mon Dec 22 16:16:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-mpls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE253A6ABF for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:16:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.168 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.168 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, SARE_RECV_VIRTUACOMBR=1.193, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cDP1ZgUBFmrU for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from bd212938.virtua.com.br (bd212938.virtua.com.br [189.33.41.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1614E3A68CD for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:16:02 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Don't reject my calls! From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081223001603.1614E3A68CD@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:16:02 -0800 (PST) Having trouble viewing this email?
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