From Eli.Liluz@veraznetworks.com Mon May 4 02:19:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151563A6F58 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:19:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.106 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.106 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FIgnSVxDNnmm for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VRZIL-MR.il.veraznetworks.com (unknown [212.25.80.121]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB32D3A6C46 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VRZIL-EX01.il.veraznetworks.com ([172.29.1.6]) by VRZIL-MR.il.veraznetworks.com with InterScan Message Security Suite; Mon, 04 May 2009 12:29:28 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9CC99.BF9D5D96" Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:20:56 +0300 Message-ID: <30F0D7625E0DEC4E83A2A94596BC18B704C14EAC@VRZIL-EX01.il.veraznetworks.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Megaco Over SCTP. Thread-Index: AcnMmaGCdOd8HDMmRem4z32eop0CaA== From: "Eli Liluz" To: Subject: [Megaco] Megaco Over SCTP. X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:19:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9CC99.BF9D5D96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. =20 I have got a question regarding Megaco running over SCTP transport layer. =20 Is there any change in the behavior of Megaco layer in case it runs over UDP or over SCTP? Is there any need to modify the algorithm of the retransmission? Is there any standard that deals with this issue? =20 Thank you, Eli Liluz. =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9CC99.BF9D5D96 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 all.
 
I have = got a=20 question regarding Megaco running over SCTP transport = layer.
 
Is = there any change=20 in the behavior of Megaco layer in case it runs over UDP or over=20 SCTP?
Is = there any need to=20 modify the algorithm of the retransmission?
Is = there any=20 standard that deals with this issue?
 
Thank=20 you,
Eli=20 Liluz.
 
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C9CC99.BF9D5D96-- From sudhanshu.garg@aricent.com Mon May 4 02:24:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B783A6F6D for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:24:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KrGvlLlDfjNm for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (inoutbound.aricent.com [125.21.164.247]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A3B3A6F4D for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jaguar.aricent.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n449DtD8031808 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:43:55 +0530 Received: from GUREXHT02.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM (gurexht02.asian.ad.aricent.com [10.203.171.138]) by jaguar.aricent.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n449Do6d031742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 4 May 2009 14:43:50 +0530 Received: from GUREXMB01.asian.ad.aricent.com ([10.203.171.130]) by GUREXHT02.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM ([10.203.171.138]) with mapi; Mon, 4 May 2009 14:54:54 +0530 From: Sudhanshu Garg To: Eli Liluz , "megaco@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:54:53 +0530 Thread-Topic: Megaco Over SCTP. Thread-Index: AcnMmaGCdOd8HDMmRem4z32eop0CaAAAEAuQ Message-ID: <5DF2A48952E63B43ACC2EC34AA8C25B00AB0347D62@GUREXMB01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM> References: <30F0D7625E0DEC4E83A2A94596BC18B704C14EAC@VRZIL-EX01.il.veraznetworks.com> In-Reply-To: <30F0D7625E0DEC4E83A2A94596BC18B704C14EAC@VRZIL-EX01.il.veraznetworks.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_5DF2A48952E63B43ACC2EC34AA8C25B00AB0347D62GUREXMB01ASIA_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Megaco] Megaco Over SCTP. X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:24:00 -0000 --_000_5DF2A48952E63B43ACC2EC34AA8C25B00AB0347D62GUREXMB01ASIA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Please refer "H.248.4: Gateway control protocol: Transport over Stream Cont= rol Transmission Protocol (SCTP)". It should help. Regards, Sudhanshu Garg Engineering Project Manager Ph: +91 124 4176218 Mob: +91 9999500798 A R I C E N T ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Eli Liluz Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 2:51 PM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Megaco Over SCTP. Hi all. I have got a question regarding Megaco running over SCTP transport layer. Is there any change in the behavior of Megaco layer in case it runs over UD= P or over SCTP? Is there any need to modify the algorithm of the retransmission? Is there any standard that deals with this issue? Thank you, Eli Liluz. ________________________________ "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solely = for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privi= leged or confidential information and should not be circulated or used for = any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have received this m= essage in error,please notify the originator immediately. If you are not th= e intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited fro= m using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of this message. Ari= cent accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising from the use of t= he information transmitted by this email including damage from virus." --_000_5DF2A48952E63B43ACC2EC34AA8C25B00AB0347D62GUREXMB01ASIA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

Please refer “H.248.4: Gateway c= ontrol protocol: Transport over Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP)= ”.

It should help.

 

Regards,

Sudhanshu Garg

Engineering P= roject Manager

Ph: +91 124  4176218

Mob: +91 9999500798

A R I C E N T

From: mega= co-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eli Liluz
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 2:5= 1 PM
To: megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] Megaco Ove= r SCTP.

 

Hi all.

 

I have got a question regarding Megaco running over= SCTP transport layer.

 

Is there any change in the behavior of Megaco layer in c= ase it runs over UDP or over SCTP?

Is there any need to modify the algorithm of the retrans= mission?

Is there any standard that deals with this issue?=

 

Thank you,

Eli Liluz.

 

 

 


"DISCLAIMER: This messa= ge is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solely for the use of the indi= vidual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged or confidential i= nformation and should not be circulated or used for any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have recei= ved this message in error,please notify the originator immediately. If you = are not the intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly proh= ibited from using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of this message. Aricent accepts no responsibil= ity for loss or damage arising from the use of the information transmitted = by this email including damage from virus."
 --_000_5DF2A48952E63B43ACC2EC34AA8C25B00AB0347D62GUREXMB01ASIA_-- From Albrecht.Schwarz@alcatel-lucent.de Mon May 4 02:32:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A503A6DA1 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:32:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.828 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.828 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.820, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GR3o5coKV-ZQ for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail5.alcatel.fr (smail5.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6D43A6FB3 for ; Mon, 4 May 2009 02:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRVELSBHS06.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs06.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [155.132.6.78]) by smail5.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id n449W4XZ012667; Mon, 4 May 2009 11:32:04 +0200 Received: from FRVELSMBS23.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.56]) by FRVELSBHS06.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 4 May 2009 11:32:00 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9CC9B.2CBE81D7" Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:31:59 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5DF2A48952E63B43ACC2EC34AA8C25B00AB0347D62@GUREXMB01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Megaco Over SCTP. Thread-Index: AcnMmaGCdOd8HDMmRem4z32eop0CaAAAEAuQAABO99A= References: <30F0D7625E0DEC4E83A2A94596BC18B704C14EAC@VRZIL-EX01.il.veraznetworks.com> <5DF2A48952E63B43ACC2EC34AA8C25B00AB0347D62@GUREXMB01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM> From: "Schwarz Albrecht" To: "Sudhanshu Garg" , "Eli Liluz" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2009 09:32:00.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CD7B0E0:01C9CC9B] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.13 Subject: Re: [Megaco] Megaco Over SCTP. X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:32:18 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9CC9B.2CBE81D7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable More info: *=09 Standard for H.248-over-SCTP: H.248.4 = (http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-H.248.4/en = ) *=09 Supplementary info: see H.Sup7, =A7 6.1.1 SCTP association = establishment (http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-H.Sup7/en) *=09 H.248 profiles may provide additional procedural aspects on H.248 = transport details. *=09 H.248 transport mode changes (e.g. from UDP to SCTP, from UDP/IPv4 to = UDP/IPv6, etc): see draft ITU-T Rec. H.248.67 (ex H.248.TrM) "Gateway control protocol: = GCP transport mode indication package" =3D> latest draft: = http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2005-2008/0808_Gen/TD-40.zip = =20 -Albrecht =20 =20 ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Sudhanshu Garg Sent: Montag, 4. Mai 2009 11:25 To: Eli Liluz; megaco@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Megaco] Megaco Over SCTP. =09 =09 Hi, =20 Please refer "H.248.4: Gateway control protocol: Transport over Stream = Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP)". It should help. =20 Regards, Sudhanshu Garg Engineering Project Manager Ph: +91 124 4176218 Mob: +91 9999500798 A R I C E N T =09 ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Eli Liluz Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 2:51 PM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Megaco Over SCTP. =20 Hi all. =20 I have got a question regarding Megaco running over SCTP transport = layer. =20 Is there any change in the behavior of Megaco layer in case it runs = over UDP or over SCTP? Is there any need to modify the algorithm of the retransmission? Is there any standard that deals with this issue? =20 Thank you, Eli Liluz. =20 =20 =20 ________________________________ "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended = solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may = contain privileged or confidential information and should not be = circulated or used for any purpose other than for what it is intended. = If you have received this message in error,please notify the originator = immediately. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified = that you are strictly prohibited from using, copying, altering, or = disclosing the contents of this message. Aricent accepts no = responsibility for loss or damage arising from the use of the = information transmitted by this email including damage from virus." =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9CC9B.2CBE81D7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
More info:
  • Standard for H.248-over-SCTP: H.248.4 = (http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-H.248.4/en)
  • Supplementary info: see H.Sup7, =A7 6.1.1 = SCTP association=20 establishment (http://www.itu.int/rec/T-= REC-H.Sup7/en)
  • H.248 profiles may provide additional = procedural=20 aspects on H.248 transport details.
  • H.248 transport mode changes (e.g. from UDP = to SCTP, from=20 UDP/IPv4 to UDP/IPv6, etc):
    see     draft ITU-T Rec. = H.248.67 (ex=20 H.248.TrM) =93Gateway control protocol: GCP transport mode indication=20 package=94
    =3D> latest draft:     http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2005-2008/0808_Gen/TD-40.zi= p
-Albrecht
 

 

From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org=20 [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sudhanshu=20 Garg
Sent: Montag, 4. Mai 2009 11:25
To: Eli = Liluz;=20 megaco@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Megaco] Megaco Over=20 SCTP.

Hi,

 

Please = refer=20 =93H.248.4: Gateway control protocol: Transport over Stream Control = Transmission=20 Protocol (SCTP)=94.

It should=20 help.

 

Regards,

Sudhanshu=20 Garg

Engineering Project=20 Manager

Ph: +91 124 =  4176218

Mob: +91=20 9999500798

A R=20 I C E N T

From:=20 megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eli = Liluz
Sent: Monday, May 04, = 2009 2:51 PM
To: megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] Megaco Over=20 SCTP.

 

Hi=20 all.

 

I have got a = question=20 regarding Megaco running over SCTP transport=20 layer.

 

Is there any change in = the=20 behavior of Megaco layer in case it runs over UDP or over=20 SCTP?

Is there any need to = modify the=20 algorithm of the retransmission?

Is there any standard = that deals=20 with this issue?

 

Thank=20 you,

Eli=20 Liluz.

 

 

 


"DISCLAIMER: This message is = proprietary to=20 Aricent and is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom = it is=20 addressed. It may contain privileged or confidential information and = should=20 not be circulated or used for any purpose other than for what it is = intended.=20 If you have received this message in error,please notify the = originator=20 immediately. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified = that you=20 are strictly prohibited from using, copying, altering, or disclosing = the=20 contents of this message. Aricent accepts no responsibility for loss = or damage=20 arising from the use of the information transmitted by this email = including=20 damage from virus."
 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9CC9B.2CBE81D7-- From Albrecht.Schwarz@alcatel-lucent.de Tue May 5 06:54:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BED3A6831 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 06:54:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.174 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.174 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.525, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1PX9u6U-vHYi for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 06:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9413128C13B for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 06:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRVELSBHS05.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs05.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [155.132.6.77]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id n45DtXgX015878 for ; Tue, 5 May 2009 15:55:40 +0200 Received: from FRVELSMBS23.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.56]) by FRVELSBHS05.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 5 May 2009 15:55:34 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:55:33 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Inventory of H.248 transport modes; RE: [Megaco] Megaco over SCTP Thread-Index: AcnMmaGCdOd8HDMmRem4z32eop0CaAAAEAuQAABO99AAACrf8AA7UusA From: "Schwarz Albrecht" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2009 13:55:34.0581 (UTC) FILETIME=[296A3650:01C9CD89] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.80 Subject: [Megaco] Inventory of H.248 transport modes; RE: Megaco over SCTP X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:54:17 -0000 BTW: draft H.248.67 provides a summary of the presently defined 27 = options for transporting H.248 messages. The H.248 transport mode is tightly coupled to the H.248 Control = Association. =20 http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2005-2008/0808_Gen/TD-40.zip : Table 1 - Property values for H.248 transport modes =20 Text codepoint Binary Codepoint Protocol Stack Reference =09 IPv4 UDP|IP4 0x0000 UDP/IPv4 Annex D of [ITU-T H.248.1] =09 UDP|IP4-IPS 0x0001 UDP/IPsec/IPv4 + [IETF RFC 4301] =09 UDP|IP4-DTLS 0x0002 UDP/DTLS/IPv4 + [IETF RFC 4347] =09 TCP|IP4 0x0003 TCP/IPv4 Annex D of [ITU-T H.248.1] =09 TCP|IP4-IPS 0x0004 TCP/IPsec/IPv4 + [IETF RFC 4301] =09 TCP|IP4-TLS 0x0005 TCP/TLS/IPv4 + [IETF RFC 4346] =09 SCTP|IP4 0x0006 SCTP/IPv4 [ITU-T H.248.4] =09 SCTP|IP4-IPS 0x0007 SCTP/IPsec/IPv4 + [IETF RFC 4301] =09 SCTP|IP4-TLS 0x0008 SCTP/TLS/IPv4 + [IETF RFC 4346] =09 M3UA/SCTP|IP4 0x0009 M3UA/SCTP/IPv4 [ETSI TS 129 202] =09 M3UA/SCTP|IP4-IPS 0x000a M3UA/SCTP/IPsec/IPv4 + [IETF RFC 4301] =09 M3UA/SCTP|IP4-TLS 0x000b M3UA/SCTP/TLS/IPv4 + [IETF RFC 4346] =09 IPv6 UDP|IP6 0x000c UDP/IPv6 Annex D of [ITU-T H.248.1] =09 UDP|IP6-IPS 0x000d UDP/IPsec/IPv6 + [IETF RFC 4301] =09 UDP|IP6-DTLS 0x000e UDP/DTLS/IPv6 + [IETF RFC 4346] =09 TCP|IP6 0x000f TCP/IPv6 Annex D of [ITU-T H.248.1] =09 TCP|IP6-IPS 0x0010 TCP/IPsec/IPv6 + [IETF RFC 4301] =09 TCP|IP6-TLS 0x0011 TCP/TLS/IPv6 + [IETF RFC 4346] =09 SCTP|IP6 0x0012 SCTP/IPv6 [ITU-T H.248.4] =09 SCTP|IP6-IPS 0x0013 SCTP/IPsec/IPv6 + [IETF RFC 4301] =09 SCTP|IP6-TLS 0x0014 SCTP/TLS/IPv6 + [IETF RFC 4346] =09 M3UA/SCTP|IP6 0x0015 M3UA/SCTP/IPv6 [ETSI TS 129 202] =09 M3UA/SCTP|IP6-IPS 0x0016 M3UA/SCTP/IPsec/IPv6 + [IETF RFC 4301] =09 M3UA/SCTP|IP6-TLS 0x0017 M3UA/SCTP/TLS/IPv6 + [IETF RFC 4346] =09 ATM MTP3b|ATM 0x0018 MTP3b/N-SAAL/AAL5/ATM clause 4 of [ITU-T H.248.5] =09 SSCOP|ATM 0x0019 SSCOP/AAL5/ATM clause 5 of [ITU-T H.248.5] =09 ALF/AAL5|ATM 0x001a ALF/AAL5/ATM clause 6 of [ITU-T H.248.5] =09 =20 =20 ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Schwarz Albrecht Sent: Montag, 4. Mai 2009 11:32 To: Sudhanshu Garg; Eli Liluz; megaco@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Megaco] Megaco Over SCTP. =09 =09 More info: =09 * Standard for H.248-over-SCTP: H.248.4 = (http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-H.248.4/en = ) * Supplementary info: see H.Sup7, =A7 6.1.1 SCTP association = establishment (http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-H.Sup7/en) * H.248 profiles may provide additional procedural aspects on H.248 = transport details. * H.248 transport mode changes (e.g. from UDP to SCTP, from UDP/IPv4 = to UDP/IPv6, etc): see draft ITU-T Rec. H.248.67 (ex H.248.TrM) "Gateway control = protocol: GCP transport mode indication package" =3D> latest draft: = http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2005-2008/0808_Gen/TD-40.zip = =20 -Albrecht =20 =20 ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Sudhanshu Garg Sent: Montag, 4. Mai 2009 11:25 To: Eli Liluz; megaco@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Megaco] Megaco Over SCTP. =09 =09 Hi, =20 Please refer "H.248.4: Gateway control protocol: Transport over Stream = Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP)". It should help. =20 Regards, Sudhanshu Garg Engineering Project Manager Ph: +91 124 4176218 Mob: +91 9999500798 A R I C E N T ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Eli Liluz Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 2:51 PM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Megaco Over SCTP. =20 Hi all. =20 I have got a question regarding Megaco running over SCTP transport = layer. =20 Is there any change in the behavior of Megaco layer in case it runs = over UDP or over SCTP? Is there any need to modify the algorithm of the retransmission? 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My question is about the correct mode of the remote ephemeral termination. =20 According to H.248.1 (par 7.1.7) "Signals and Events are not affected by mode", that is, the mode affects only the media. However, when a tone (Signal) is applied on an ephemeral termination, the tone is converted to media (RTP); therefore, if a Signal (ring-back tone) is applied to the remote ephemeral termination which is in "inactive" mode, what should be the behaviour of the MG? Should the RTP packets with the tone be sent outside the Context or not? =20 Thanks, =20 MMAR ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9CEA9.CF1944F8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
I know that a scenario where the = ring-back tone is=20 applied from the remote side emulating TDM is quite common. My question = is about=20 the correct mode of the remote ephemeral = termination.
 
According to H.248.1 (par 7.1.7) = “Signals and=20 Events are not affected by mode”, that is, the mode affects only = the media. However, when a tone (Signal) is applied on an ephemeral=20 termination, the tone is = converted to=20 media (RTP); therefore, if a Signal = (ring-back=20 tone) is applied to the=20 remote ephemeral termination which=20 is in “inactive” mode, what=20 should be the behaviour of the MG? Should the RTP packets with the tone = be sent=20 outside the Context or not?
 
Thanks,
 
MMAR
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X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:03:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Priya Krishnan To: megaco@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Megaco] Context Id X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 05:01:37 -0000 Hi All, As a beginner in MeGaco I have one question on context ID. The context ID is not quite clear to me. Hope to get response. A user can have multiple contexts right ? Each context indicates a particular set of related terminations. For example, if a user is having a 3 way conf call, there are 3 terminations in a context with an ID. if that user is on call waiting on the other line , he is in a different context also at the same time. So there are 2 context ids for this user at this point in time. A combination of context id, termination ID+ other info like user ID can recognize the user accurately. Is my understanding right? Please clarify. Thanks Priya From Christian.Groves@nteczone.com Tue May 12 22:29:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09BB3A6B10 for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 22:29:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.753 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.753 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.007, BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kuo3BFsvxDCs for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 22:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D273A6A97 for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 22:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp118-208-134-25.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([118.208.134.25]) by ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 13 May 2009 15:01:09 +0930 Message-ID: <4A0A5B1A.8040508@nteczone.com> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:31:06 +1000 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: megaco ietf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Megaco] H.248/Megaco IANA Registrations Update X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 05:29:40 -0000 Hello all, FYI. The IANA H.248/Megaco registrations page (http://www.iana.org/assignments/megaco-h248) has been updated to align it with the outcomes of the January ITU-T Q.3/16 meeting. Regards, Christian From Raphael.Tryster@Teledata-Networks.com Tue May 12 22:39:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8EF3A6BB0 for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 22:39:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.905 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.905 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.929, BAYES_20=-0.74, SARE_RECV_BEZEQINT_B=0.763, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6gWh91QobAUY for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 22:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teledata-networks.com (mail.teledata-networks.com [81.218.12.242]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6F53A69AA for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 22:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by Mail-SeCure (envelope-from Raphael.Tryster@Teledata-Networks.com) with SMTP; 13 May 2009 08:40:14 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:42:41 +0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <429595.17009.qm@web32208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Context Id Thread-Index: AcnTiFcX3aENlItPRLaY7a8mLvjNtgAA/UHw From: "Raphael Tryster" To: "Priya Krishnan" , Subject: Re: [Megaco] Context Id X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 05:39:46 -0000 Hi Priya, A termination (representing a user) can only be in one context at a time. Typically, in a 3-party scenario, a termination will move between contexts. Remember that when the terminations are in different gateways, the MGC will create the required contexts on each MG. For example, suppose A, B and C are physical terminations in different gateways, and A can bounce back and forth between B and C by pressing flash. The MGC would typically create 2 contexts on A's gateway, where each context contains an ephemeral termination, one of them with a remote descriptor pointing to B, and the other to C. Each time A presses flash, the MGC will MOVE A's physical termination out of one context and into another. At the same time, B's and C's physical terminations are each in their own contexts on their respective MGs, where each context also contains an ephemeral termination whose remote descriptor points to A. As A bounces between talking to B and C, the MGC will control who hears whom by changing the Mode of each of the terminations. -----Original Message----- From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Priya Krishnan Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 8:03 AM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Context Id Hi All, As a beginner in MeGaco I have one question on context ID. The context ID is not quite clear to me. Hope to get response.=20 A user can have multiple contexts right ? Each context indicates a particular set of related terminations. For example, if a user is having a 3 way conf call, there are 3 terminations in a context with an ID. if that user is on call waiting on the other line , he is in a different context also at the same time. So there are 2 context ids for this user at this point in time. A combination of context id, termination ID+ other info like user ID can recognize the user accurately. Is my understanding right? Please clarify. Thanks Priya =20 _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From vgpriya@yahoo.com Tue May 12 22:53:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC9A3A6A9C for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 22:53:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.622 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.622 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.977, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zjp4i84lmtsU for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 22:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web32206.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32206.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.137]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D45343A6921 for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 22:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24724 invoked by uid 60001); 13 May 2009 05:55:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242194102; bh=MKpc9oWxB4Y97qqQHZ0LQkRjwQaXXaFmoDdKpEIHHAQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lgwOGbP8D0pmOMRomvh1KfGDHQWhyQeVSnvIhmioXGpZ4XK/g/VHLiusxnuzgfUcHT9r3ig0V439hzqkau1iZz3aN5cR8BpebqHk2xGHjBFsrG5XMLpaOX8n3IOapJpyNWk8IPF+CMcOIH4D7uyP45SQtrZ4ZN+R+ibhH5cjzwc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pwyR1cdmYcYYbsX9N5FkI2SoCqxlT3MAy4Pa1t2kYKHp4eFbmM0mdUXiqTbiblOofZYfCchN5tM+Xl2zTc/WUwCplbfy0Ow2L9lyxjyRER2u786vkVr9C64lORLTOdOrpTszaG/lxXh58gIngy3Ofe97MTqtvBo2HJ4WqT6epEM=; Message-ID: <537146.23690.qm@web32206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: DpYhn0oVM1mEDsgfA6TfTKg8pLWHVMD07LA9hFckHcys6MIjVI6Ryn9i3WbcTBb0R2nYEupd3.WQlTFq_7wIAVTi.32gUDzpMp1qmFgCLDdaMzJu1h53HCPK1RX30fj2zD7OYoY7rr_1DNeU17tzHWZEC9mGIk.0GG31cn173GdJ7uOL6A4rz02wlFKCE7tZmAB0zYMpTqXoXggr_UDiElmXgD6gnDJnweT6H6W8fAdnFqLLZiAp6SYbUK.uY8jPPsYBmoWJ_fuMgKRlfjU_yQJ70ARLJtJBVPVeSJCmNOsWr8S1vDgu.NRev8gWD_DrHl.nNsYUOjuoXrr1r2w- Received: from [202.131.155.20] by web32206.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 May 2009 22:55:02 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:55:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Priya Krishnan To: megaco@ietf.org, Raphael Tryster MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Megaco] Context Id X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 05:53:34 -0000 Hi Raphael,=0A=0AThanks for your response and excellent explanation. I unde= rstand context better now. So if I am an external entity monitoring MGW and= would like to know about a subscribers call/session details, then a user m= ight have multiple context ids which must be analyzed right? So conceptuall= y a context is created for a user per transaction initiated by the user wi= th diff remote physical terminations.=0A=0AThanks and regards=0AGeetha =0A= =0A--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Raphael Tryster wrote:=0A=0A> From: Raphael Tryster =0A> Subject: RE: [Megaco] Context Id=0A> To: "Priya Krishnan" , megaco@ietf.org=0A> Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 10:42 PM=0A>= Hi Priya,=0A> =0A> A termination (representing a user) can only be in one= =0A> context at a=0A> time.=A0 Typically, in a 3-party scenario, a terminat= ion=0A> will move between=0A> contexts.=A0 Remember that when the terminati= ons are in=0A> different=0A> gateways, the MGC will create the required con= texts on each=0A> MG.=A0 For=0A> example, suppose A, B and C are physical t= erminations in=0A> different=0A> gateways, and A can bounce back and forth = between B and C=0A> by pressing=0A> flash.=A0 The MGC would typically creat= e 2 contexts on=0A> A's gateway, where=0A> each context contains an ephemer= al termination, one of them=0A> with a=0A> remote descriptor pointing to B,= and the other to C.=A0=0A> Each time A=0A> presses flash, the MGC will MOV= E A's physical termination=0A> out of one=0A> context and into another.=A0 = At the same time, B's and=0A> C's physical=0A> terminations are each in the= ir own contexts on their=0A> respective MGs,=0A> where each context also co= ntains an ephemeral termination=0A> whose remote=0A> descriptor points to A= .=A0 As A bounces between talking=0A> to B and C, the=0A> MGC will control = who hears whom by changing the Mode of=0A> each of the=0A> terminations.=0A= > =0A> -----Original Message-----=0A> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org=0A> [ma= ilto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org]=0A> On Behalf=0A> Of Priya Krishnan=0A> Sent:= Wednesday, 13 May 2009 8:03 AM=0A> To: megaco@ietf.org=0A> Subject: [Megac= o] Context Id=0A> =0A> =0A> Hi All,=0A> =0A> As a beginner in MeGaco I have= one question on context ID.=0A> The context=0A> ID is not quite clear to m= e. Hope to get response. =0A> =0A> A user=A0 can have multiple contexts rig= ht ?=0A> Each context indicates a particular set of related=0A> termination= s.=A0 For=0A> example, if a user is having a 3 way conf call, there are 3= =0A> terminations=0A> in a context with an ID. if that user is on call wait= ing on=0A> the other=0A> line , he is in a different context also at the sa= me time.=0A> So there are=0A> 2 context ids for this user at this point in = time. A=0A> combination of=0A> context id, termination ID+ other info like = user ID can=0A> recognize the=0A> user accurately.=0A> =0A> Is my understan= ding right? Please clarify.=0A> =0A> Thanks=0A> Priya=0A> =0A> =0A> =A0 =A0= =A0 =0A> _______________________________________________=0A> Megaco mailin= g list=0A> Megaco@ietf.org=0A> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco= =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Raphael.Tryster@Teledata-Networks.com Tue May 12 23:26:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B943A6E77 for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 23:26:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.37 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.37 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.465, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_RECV_BEZEQINT_B=0.763, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R3oFQs1YjGsg for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 23:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teledata-networks.com (mail.teledata-networks.com [81.218.12.242]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802853A6E46 for ; Tue, 12 May 2009 23:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by Mail-SeCure (envelope-from Raphael.Tryster@Teledata-Networks.com) with SMTP; 13 May 2009 09:26:21 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:28:48 +0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <537146.23690.qm@web32206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Context Id Thread-Index: AcnTj5R3c4QX47MtRNqbL4aJ2bDnigAA5wZA From: "Raphael Tryster" To: "Priya Krishnan" , Subject: Re: [Megaco] Context Id X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 06:26:11 -0000 Depends what you mean by "transaction". In Megaco terminology, a = transaction consists of a request from MG or MGC to the other, and a = reply in the opposite direction. If you are using the term = "transaction" to mean a leg of a call, e.g. the connection between = subscribers A and B, then what you say will often be correct. However, = the MGC has complete freedom to decide when it needs a context and when = it doesn't. There isn't one standard way to do things. In the 3-party = example I gave below, it is typical for A switching between talking to B = and C to switch between contexts. However, it is conceivable that = another MGC would put physical A and ephemerals pointing to remote B and = C all in one context, and just fiddle with the mode. Megaco just gives = the MGC the tools, and the MGC can use them any way it wants to get the = job done. Regards, Raphael -----Original Message----- From: Priya Krishnan [mailto:vgpriya@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 8:55 AM To: megaco@ietf.org; Raphael Tryster Subject: RE: [Megaco] Context Id Hi Raphael, Thanks for your response and excellent explanation. I understand context = better now. So if I am an external entity monitoring MGW and would like = to know about a subscribers call/session details, then a user might have = multiple context ids which must be analyzed right? So conceptually a = context is created for a user per transaction initiated by the user with = diff remote physical terminations. Thanks and regards Geetha=20 --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Raphael Tryster = wrote: > From: Raphael Tryster > Subject: RE: [Megaco] Context Id > To: "Priya Krishnan" , megaco@ietf.org > Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 10:42 PM > Hi Priya, >=20 > A termination (representing a user) can only be in one > context at a > time.=A0 Typically, in a 3-party scenario, a termination > will move between > contexts.=A0 Remember that when the terminations are in > different > gateways, the MGC will create the required contexts on each > MG.=A0 For > example, suppose A, B and C are physical terminations in > different > gateways, and A can bounce back and forth between B and C > by pressing > flash.=A0 The MGC would typically create 2 contexts on > A's gateway, where > each context contains an ephemeral termination, one of them > with a > remote descriptor pointing to B, and the other to C.=A0 > Each time A > presses flash, the MGC will MOVE A's physical termination > out of one > context and into another.=A0 At the same time, B's and > C's physical > terminations are each in their own contexts on their > respective MGs, > where each context also contains an ephemeral termination > whose remote > descriptor points to A.=A0 As A bounces between talking > to B and C, the > MGC will control who hears whom by changing the Mode of > each of the > terminations. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf > Of Priya Krishnan > Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 8:03 AM > To: megaco@ietf.org > Subject: [Megaco] Context Id >=20 >=20 > Hi All, >=20 > As a beginner in MeGaco I have one question on context ID. > The context > ID is not quite clear to me. Hope to get response.=20 >=20 > A user=A0 can have multiple contexts right ? > Each context indicates a particular set of related > terminations.=A0 For > example, if a user is having a 3 way conf call, there are 3 > terminations > in a context with an ID. if that user is on call waiting on > the other > line , he is in a different context also at the same time. > So there are > 2 context ids for this user at this point in time. A > combination of > context id, termination ID+ other info like user ID can > recognize the > user accurately. >=20 > Is my understanding right? Please clarify. >=20 > Thanks > Priya >=20 >=20 > =A0 =A0 =A0=20 > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >=20 =20 From bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com Wed May 13 05:12:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B6E3A6C3E for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 05:12:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.166 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.166 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s+Dt6H9Ig678 for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 05:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from R-MAIL2.rd.francetelecom.com (r-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com [217.108.152.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F003A6CBD for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 05:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ftrdmel3.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.192.128.42]) by ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 13 May 2009 14:13:31 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9D3C4.3AB401E6" Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:13:30 +0200 Message-ID: <2AF8FF7D89242541B12E7A47F6ECB4BE088AA6C3@ftrdmel3> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Record Tone Thread-Index: AcnTxDqNfV/zy+vpQvuDUgq5daVxnA== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2009 12:13:31.0696 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B321B00:01C9D3C4] Subject: [Megaco] Record Tone X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:12:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9D3C4.3AB401E6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Is there any standard package defining an Event enabling reporting detection of a record tone on a termination? By "record tone" I mean a tone that tell the caller that he has been connected to an automatic answering device and is requested to begin speaking (ie. ITU-T E.182 A.2.17). Bruno ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9D3C4.3AB401E6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Record Tone

Hi all,

Is there any standard package defining = an Event enabling reporting detection of a record tone on a = termination?

By "record tone" I mean a = tone that tell the caller that he has been connected to an automatic = answering device and is requested to begin speaking (ie. ITU-T E.182 = A.2.17).

Bruno

------_=_NextPart_001_01C9D3C4.3AB401E6-- From maria_del_mar.perez_hernandez@alcatel-lucent.es Wed May 13 15:30:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714AC3A6E47; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:30:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.408 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.408 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-6.095, BAYES_50=0.001, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, CN_BODY_46=0.256, EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=1, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_28=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, SARE_SUB_ENC_GB2312=1.345] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2X1TxuMAu5M7; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail6.alcatel.fr (smail6.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6993A6DE9; Wed, 13 May 2009 15:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRVELSBHS06.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs06.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [155.132.6.78]) by smail6.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id n4DMW7g1004404; Thu, 14 May 2009 00:32:07 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSMBS33.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.17]) by FRVELSBHS06.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 14 May 2009 00:32:07 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9D41A.A5D07046" Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:32:06 +0200 Message-ID: <87F6BC6EF55C1942BABCB8E1AA931FB50235D05C@FRMRSSMBS33.ad2.ad.alcatel.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: =?gb2312?B?W01lZ2Fjb10gtPC4tDogIFF1ZXN0aW9uIG9uIGFwcGxpY2F0aW9uIA==?= =?gb2312?B?b2YgdG9uZXMgb24gZXBoZW1lcmFsIHRlcm1pbmF0aW9ucw==?= Thread-Index: AcnPhxBSj3VwQETCSdGHEZoXXkhzmwEkU/SQ References: <87F6BC6EF55C1942BABCB8E1AA931FB5022D7CD3@FRMRSSMBS33.ad2.ad.alcatel.com> From: "PEREZ HERNANDEZ MARIA DEL MAR" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2009 22:32:07.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[A602A840:01C9D41A] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.84 Cc: megaco@ietf.org, megaco-bounces@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Megaco] =?gb2312?b?tPC4tDogIFF1ZXN0aW9uIG9uIGFwcGxpY2F0aW9uIG9m?= =?gb2312?b?IHRvbmVzIG9uIGVwaGVtZXJhbCB0ZXJtaW5hdGlvbnM=?= X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:30:39 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9D41A.A5D07046 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C9D41A.A5D07046" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C9D41A.A5D07046 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Michael Sun, =20 thanks for your answer and sorry for taking so long to thank you. =20 I fully agree with your view but there seems to be other views that = defend the fact that since the ring-back tone is a signal, it must be = played (and RTP packets sent to other end) even if termination = "inactive". I learnt about a previously posted message on this issue = (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/megaco/current/msg07819.html) = which seems to defend the fact that whatever the termination mode, a = signal must be played. I agree that the signal must be played on the = termination, but I think that once the signal is converted to media, it = will be played but will not reach the other end since the RTP path is = not opened ("inactive"termination). Do you agree with this? =20 Thanks again and sorry for my delay, =20 MMAR ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of sun.hongjun@zte.com.cn Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:42 AM To: PEREZ HERNANDEZ MARIA DEL MAR Cc: megaco@ietf.org; megaco-bounces@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] =B4=F0=B8=B4: Question on application of tones on = ephemeral terminations I think MG is a controlled equipment.If it sends RPT packages ,It must = be set to be active by MGC firstly =20 Michael Sun =CB=EF=BA=EC=BE=FC=20 Network Planning & System Design Department=20 Product Marketing System=20 =B2=FA=C6=B7=CA=D0=B3=A1=CC=E5=CF=B5=20 No.68 Zijinghua Rd,Yuhuatai District, NanJing.P.R.China Tel:+86-25-52870503 Fax:+86-25-52871000 Email:sun.hongjun@zte.com.cn=20 "PEREZ HERNANDEZ MARIA DEL MAR" = =20 =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: megaco-bounces@ietf.org=20 2009-05-07 08:21=20 =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB =20 =B3=AD=CB=CD =D6=F7=CC=E2 [Megaco] Question on application of tones on ephemeral terminations =09 Hi all,=20 =20 I know that a scenario where the ring-back tone is applied from the = remote side emulating TDM is quite common. My question is about the = correct mode of the remote ephemeral termination.=20 =20 According to H.248.1 (par 7.1.7) =A1=B0Signals and Events are not = affected by mode=A1=B1, that is, the mode affects only the media. = However, when a tone (Signal) is applied on an ephemeral termination, = the tone is converted to media (RTP); therefore, if a Signal (ring-back = tone) is applied to the remote ephemeral termination which is in = =A1=B0inactive=A1=B1 mode, what should be the behaviour of the MG? = Should the RTP packets with the tone be sent outside the Context or not? = =20 Thanks,=20 =20 MMAR_______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco -------------------------------------------------------- ZTE Information Security Notice: The information contained in this mail = is solely property of the sender's organization. This mail communication = is confidential. 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Hello Michael Sun,
 
thanks for your answer and sorry for taking so = long to=20 thank you.
 
I fully agree with your view but there seems to = be other=20 views that defend the fact that since the ring-back tone is a signal, it = must be=20 played (and RTP packets sent to other end) even if termination=20 "inactive". I learnt about a previously posted message on this = issue (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/megaco/current/msg07819.html) = which seems to defend the fact that whatever the termination mode, a = signal must=20 be played. I agree that the signal must be played on the termination, = but I=20 think that once the signal is converted to media, it will be played=20 but will not reach the other end since the RTP path is not opened=20 ("inactive"termination). Do you agree with this?
 
Thanks again and sorry for my = delay,
 
MMAR

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I think MG is a = controlled=20 equipment.If it sends RPT packages ,It must be set to be active by MGC=20 firstly

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[Megaco] Question on = application of=20 tones on ephemeral = terminations

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Hi all,
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I know that a scenario where = the ring-back=20 tone is applied from the remote side emulating TDM is quite common. My = question=20 is about the correct mode of the remote ephemeral termination. =
 
According to H.248.1=20 (par 7.1.7) =A1=B0Signals and Events are not affected by mode=A1=B1, = that is, the mode=20 affects only the media. However, when a tone (Signal) is applied on an = ephemeral=20 termination, the tone is converted to media (RTP); therefore, if a = Signal=20 (ring-back tone) is applied to the remote ephemeral termination which is = in=20 =A1=B0inactive=A1=B1 mode, what should be the behaviour of the MG? = Should the RTP packets=20 with the tone be sent outside the Context or not?
 
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ESMTP id B24E63A691C for ; Wed, 13 May 2009 16:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp121-44-209-120.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([121.44.209.120]) by ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 14 May 2009 09:07:57 +0930 Message-ID: <4A0B59D0.8090005@nteczone.com> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:37:52 +1000 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com References: <2AF8FF7D89242541B12E7A47F6ECB4BE088AA6C3@ftrdmel3> In-Reply-To: <2AF8FF7D89242541B12E7A47F6ECB4BE088AA6C3@ftrdmel3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: megaco@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Megaco] Record Tone X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 23:36:40 -0000 Hello Bruno, I'm not aware of any package that has an event to detect this particular tone. ITU-T Q.1950 A.8 & 9 contain definitions for tones from ITU-T E.182 but these are only for signal generation not detection. Even so "record tone" is not amongst the tones supported in those packages. Regards, Christian bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com wrote: > > Hi all, > > Is there any standard package defining an Event enabling reporting > detection of a record tone on a termination? > > By "record tone" I mean a tone that tell the caller that he has been > connected to an automatic answering device and is requested to begin > speaking (ie. 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zX0tbzEVM1nbCsXIl3WQzpzZKohuiwfViK0tyBtR6CCKMugHU7NHdTPLkfB3FQcpnCvThodgrG_qNgrPFDqMjKaE4CPKt8SgqzSwg_vR.tHpjhzS3d256fO_O91YAUi9MG2G_ki9SEXJHvN006zsdXgvdmqqn5kCr_oJBX8iDIVDjVQ3KIYy9FKh6x6eTkycE6NGitge.LbTGhZW0CdZITH1Ayx5w5KONChlpf9TKt7CbCHQUUYnMdBpxaKJ9Sf8ZPqK1gIEIiOS2gavLdVo9D7bNGYwQNUJT4fACTn.iLTQk1RcwEaq Received: from [202.131.155.20] by web32204.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 May 2009 22:47:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:47:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Priya Krishnan To: megaco@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 05:45:31 -0000 Hi, A context ID is unique within a physical MGW. But when we access a context report at MGC [example a MSS] can we identify any report at MSS using only context ID. My thinking is since MGC connects to many MGW, it might have similar context IDs with multiple MGWs. Example there could be a context ID 2 with MGW 1 and context ID 2 with MGW 4. In that case to identify a particular context related info we might need a combination of virtual MGW address and context ID. Is this understanding right? please clarify. Thanks and Regards Geetha From Raphael.Tryster@Teledata-Networks.com Tue May 19 22:54:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F233A6A59 for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 22:54:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.525 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.525 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.310, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_RECV_BEZEQINT_B=0.763, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nh6t+Mlw26+Y for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 22:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teledata-networks.com (mail.teledata-networks.com [81.218.12.242]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42A13A6774 for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 22:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by Mail-SeCure (envelope-from Raphael.Tryster@Teledata-Networks.com) with SMTP; 20 May 2009 08:53:46 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:57:59 +0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <780061.50223.qm@web32204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID Thread-Index: AcnZDqPnjScdeyUuSCq6KcB4x2c4AwAASOUg From: "Raphael Tryster" To: "Priya Krishnan" , Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 05:54:58 -0000 Yes. It is actually quite likely to occur if multiple MGs initialize at the same time and all start assigning context IDs from 1. -----Original Message----- From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Priya Krishnan Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 8:47 AM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID Hi, A context ID is unique within a physical MGW. But when we access a context report at MGC [example a MSS] can we identify any report at MSS using only context ID. My thinking is since MGC connects to many MGW, it might have similar context IDs with multiple MGWs. Example there could be a context ID 2 with MGW 1 and context ID 2 with MGW 4. In that case to identify a particular context related info we might need a combination of virtual MGW address and context ID. Is this understanding right? please clarify. Thanks and Regards Geetha =20 _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From Albrecht.Schwarz@alcatel-lucent.de Wed May 20 00:14:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC4328C170 for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 00:14:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.304 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.304 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.055, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gLrbrhg2o5qw for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 00:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B864C3A69FE for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 00:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRVELSBHS05.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs05.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [155.132.6.77]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id n4K7GTpw002745 for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 09:16:29 +0200 Received: from FRVELSMBS23.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.56]) by FRVELSBHS05.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 20 May 2009 09:16:29 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:16:28 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID Thread-Index: AcnZDqPnjScdeyUuSCq6KcB4x2c4AwAASOUgAAK2RSA= References: <780061.50223.qm@web32204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Schwarz Albrecht" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2009 07:16:29.0180 (UTC) FILETIME=[E50A3BC0:01C9D91A] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.80 Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 07:14:57 -0000 Like to add: there is a unique name space of ContextID values because there is a single CA (H.248 Control Association) between a pair of MGC and MG entities. (Please note that there is not any difference between a physical or virtual MG, - there's just one CA.) > -----Original Message----- > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raphael Tryster > Sent: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2009 07:58 > To: Priya Krishnan; megaco@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID >=20 > Yes. It is actually quite likely to occur if multiple MGs=20 > initialize at the same time and all start assigning context=20 > IDs from 1. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Priya Krishnan > Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 8:47 AM > To: megaco@ietf.org > Subject: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > A context ID is unique within a physical MGW. But when we=20 > access a context report at MGC [example a MSS] can we=20 > identify any report at MSS using only context ID. >=20 > My thinking is since MGC connects to many MGW, it might have=20 > similar context IDs with multiple MGWs. Example there could=20 > be a context ID 2 with MGW 1 and context ID 2 with MGW 4. In=20 > that case to identify a particular context related info we=20 > might need a combination of virtual MGW address and context=20 > ID. Is this understanding right? please clarify. >=20 > Thanks and Regards > Geetha >=20 >=20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >=20 From kboyle@huawei.com Wed May 20 11:14:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E9D28C1D0 for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 11:14:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0VBqF-g-KjoM for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 11:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga01-in.huawei.com (usaga01-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCE428C16B for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 11:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga01-in [172.18.4.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KJY00GNYG32LX@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 11:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from B90927 (cpe-069-134-162-056.nc.res.rr.com [69.134.162.56]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KJY002G9G32R6@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Wed, 20 May 2009 11:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:16:15 -0400 From: Kevin Boyle In-reply-to: To: 'Schwarz Albrecht' , megaco@ietf.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcnZDqPnjScdeyUuSCq6KcB4x2c4AwAASOUgAAK2RSAAFvm0QA== References: <780061.50223.qm@web32204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 18:14:55 -0000 I will also add that a ContextID is only unique among existing contexts on the MG. Once the LONG-TIMER (see Appendix D) expires for a Subtract Command that removes the last termination from the context, that ContextID may be re-used. Remember that ContextIDs are assigned by the MG. Note also that ContextIDs do not have to be unique in a physical MG. If the physical MG is partitioned into multiple virtual MGs, the ContextID only has to be unique per VMG. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Schwarz Albrecht Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:16 AM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID Like to add: there is a unique name space of ContextID values because there is a single CA (H.248 Control Association) between a pair of MGC and MG entities. (Please note that there is not any difference between a physical or virtual MG, - there's just one CA.) > -----Original Message----- > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raphael Tryster > Sent: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2009 07:58 > To: Priya Krishnan; megaco@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID > > Yes. It is actually quite likely to occur if multiple MGs initialize > at the same time and all start assigning context IDs from 1. > > -----Original Message----- > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Priya Krishnan > Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 8:47 AM > To: megaco@ietf.org > Subject: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID > > > Hi, > > A context ID is unique within a physical MGW. But when we access a > context report at MGC [example a MSS] can we identify any report at > MSS using only context ID. > > My thinking is since MGC connects to many MGW, it might have similar > context IDs with multiple MGWs. Example there could be a context ID 2 > with MGW 1 and context ID 2 with MGW 4. In that case to identify a > particular context related info we might need a combination of virtual > MGW address and context ID. Is this understanding right? please > clarify. > > Thanks and Regards > Geetha > > > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From vgpriya@yahoo.com Wed May 20 22:39:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826EB3A6BAE for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 22:39:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.823 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.823 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.776, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5ZnTQdHz3yRP for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 22:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.138]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FEEE3A6946 for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 22:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 62925 invoked by uid 60001); 21 May 2009 05:40:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242884431; bh=mYUL7H80Ebadm+lxceVT1DpduhRDnLud90T+mxIsr3U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=attvWK1O4O7cl2rGrZecikf204HalBRF1nNPwazOvmI+T9VTLkVmYQQg8XysYWB4ok6+iW2OJXktb50qrHXNiX8WcQnUvO0hjXpL5hFPwPOaGN74LtOVrca9r4oriqQj30Sl3Qzvm55knOCU/U0XlErm5ceZuQOsWI2KWUedCIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=j1k68s68MIDBPGIfNtMgSRZ3hWvLo2QcRfb0n64cf1VXGHZY96EvuUs+SLFfThgwVyRJM+o9K96f1gyd/WIOoTsjIctF6ovSmBCHj1xQQ6LLo7WQyqXB6BQfUlFTDnSElq13RYHQU64IHWETbg+Un3VUUyxVhRth68UfAYk32v0=; Message-ID: <27022.61441.qm@web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: vSo1vvwVM1nlQ5mQra76JiAUlHm6aG7ou0ge48ODIbgYRU1gUbm4mEuXz2IxY2SY1VF4W1ZAUxv4TLV8VBV6OIPGFo.ceaYoEEwnQlDC40B5qg.Y6kLCmMG.Ns9NE5BZCWWIJZ1oXgHX3xJixoabgwu2vJ4epZwLGNxCk1Gts4BZSmSL05t8FRHlzwWXbosIQXuvjZ1Yi5KNzn_.wqlCi9XyoDf34dxXKKzh.IDksaVvTuPgNRWIN.vWZW53gT_zD5alM5dQs8SpnYeqytP5uJPExF.O0g7C2.UctK4C_bQTthX49YhbrfEAuvAe5w8SB7wDvyFcAg_mUV5xQrpgNw-- Received: from [202.131.155.20] by web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 May 2009 22:40:30 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:40:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Priya Krishnan To: 'Schwarz Albrecht' , megaco@ietf.org, Kevin Boyle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 05:39:03 -0000 Thanks Kevin and Schwarz for the response,=20 =20 It is true that context IDs are unique within one Vmgw. But the confusion i= s because of so many units/subunits in picture that makes a physical MGW. A physical MGW can be made of multiple ISU. Within an ISU there could be mu= ltiple VMGW etc.. Also a context ID has 2 parts , first part is the logical ID of ISU and the= second part running number maintained within VMGW. This makes me think tha= t within a physical MGW the context IDs are unique because the first part [= logical address of ISU] is always diff for diff ISU that makes context ID n= umber different.=20 So I guess we can assume that context ID is unique for one H.248 control li= nk or control association. Best Regards Geetha --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Kevin Boyle wrote: > From: Kevin Boyle > Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID > To: "'Schwarz Albrecht'" , megaco@iet= f.org > Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:16 AM > I will also add that a ContextID is > only unique among existing contexts on > the MG.=A0 Once the LONG-TIMER (see Appendix D) expires > for a Subtract Command > that removes the last termination from the context, that > ContextID may be > re-used.=A0 Remember that ContextIDs are assigned by the > MG. >=20 > Note also that ContextIDs do not have to be unique in a > physical MG.=A0 If the > physical MG is partitioned into multiple virtual MGs, the > ContextID only has > to be unique per VMG. >=20 > Kevin >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of > Schwarz Albrecht > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:16 AM > To: megaco@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID >=20 > Like to add: > there is a unique name space of ContextID values because > there is a single > CA (H.248 Control Association) between a pair of MGC and MG > entities. > (Please note that there is not any difference between a > physical or virtual > MG, - there's just one CA.) >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Raphael Tryster > > Sent: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2009 07:58 > > To: Priya Krishnan; megaco@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID > >=20 > > Yes.=A0 It is actually quite likely to occur if > multiple MGs initialize=20 > > at the same time and all start assigning context IDs > from 1. > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Priya Krishnan > > Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 8:47 AM > > To: megaco@ietf.org > > Subject: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID > >=20 > >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > > A context ID is unique within a physical MGW. But when > we access a=20 > > context report at MGC [example a MSS] can we identify > any report at=20 > > MSS using only context ID. > >=20 > > My thinking is since MGC connects to many MGW, it > might have similar=20 > > context IDs with multiple MGWs. Example there could be > a context ID 2=20 > > with MGW 1 and context ID 2 with MGW 4. In that case > to identify a=20 > > particular context related info we might need a > combination of virtual=20 > > MGW address and context ID. Is this understanding > right? please=20 > > clarify. > >=20 > > Thanks and Regards > > Geetha > >=20 > >=20 > >=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 > > _______________________________________________ > > Megaco mailing list > > Megaco@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > > _______________________________________________ > > Megaco mailing list > > Megaco@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > =0A=0A=0A From tom.taylor@rogers.com Thu May 21 02:22:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F053B3A6C5C for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:22:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.19 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.19 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.409, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3gVLkQTT9qVu for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp113.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp113.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.229]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CE7E73A6BE9 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4912 invoked from network); 21 May 2009 09:24:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jn83AXXwZFK7fvTDRLkicmGgYgZIo4gTKXO+yQXWYSqdsuM+skk/kyDMDo/3/rRMaQ6O38cM3TKFC7Pk+Fx+aoTy9OUbqB/DGQTMaeiL8tZFoFIKLQ19y5owZNp9Co43C7BzA4vp0vKX4H0hCDkVVq3aQgIwlQtrmb2sn3IA6Yo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?156.106.219.107?) (tom.taylor@156.106.219.107 with plain) by smtp113.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 May 2009 09:23:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: VQoJtR0VM1m5OXUNaZKmaKPoBx7gvAhr9fHBRGG3xe8EHScLRYMw5CRi1mH5RIYtpg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4A151DAF.3080503@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:23:59 +0200 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Priya Krishnan , megaco ietf References: <27022.61441.qm@web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <27022.61441.qm@web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:22:27 -0000 Your conclusion is correct. Your description of the structure of the context ID is implementation detail, unless you are quoting from some profile specification. Priya Krishnan wrote: > > Thanks Kevin and Schwarz for the response, > > It is true that context IDs are unique within one Vmgw. But the confusion is because of so many units/subunits in picture that makes a physical MGW. > > A physical MGW can be made of multiple ISU. Within an ISU there could be multiple VMGW etc.. > > Also a context ID has 2 parts , first part is the logical ID of ISU and the second part running number maintained within VMGW. This makes me think that within a physical MGW the context IDs are unique because the first part [logical address of ISU] is always diff for diff ISU that makes context ID number different. > > > So I guess we can assume that context ID is unique for one H.248 control link or control association. > > Best Regards > Geetha > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Kevin Boyle wrote: > >> From: Kevin Boyle >> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID >> To: "'Schwarz Albrecht'" , megaco@ietf.org >> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:16 AM >> I will also add that a ContextID is >> only unique among existing contexts on >> the MG. Once the LONG-TIMER (see Appendix D) expires >> for a Subtract Command >> that removes the last termination from the context, that >> ContextID may be >> re-used. Remember that ContextIDs are assigned by the >> MG. >> >> Note also that ContextIDs do not have to be unique in a >> physical MG. If the >> physical MG is partitioned into multiple virtual MGs, the >> ContextID only has >> to be unique per VMG. >> >> Kevin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of >> Schwarz Albrecht >> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:16 AM >> To: megaco@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID >> >> Like to add: >> there is a unique name space of ContextID values because >> there is a single >> CA (H.248 Control Association) between a pair of MGC and MG >> entities. >> (Please note that there is not any difference between a >> physical or virtual >> MG, - there's just one CA.) >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org >>> [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of Raphael Tryster >>> Sent: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2009 07:58 >>> To: Priya Krishnan; megaco@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID >>> >>> Yes. It is actually quite likely to occur if >> multiple MGs initialize >>> at the same time and all start assigning context IDs >> from 1. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org >>> [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of Priya Krishnan >>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 8:47 AM >>> To: megaco@ietf.org >>> Subject: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> A context ID is unique within a physical MGW. But when >> we access a >>> context report at MGC [example a MSS] can we identify >> any report at >>> MSS using only context ID. >>> >>> My thinking is since MGC connects to many MGW, it >> might have similar >>> context IDs with multiple MGWs. Example there could be >> a context ID 2 >>> with MGW 1 and context ID 2 with MGW 4. In that case >> to identify a >>> particular context related info we might need a >> combination of virtual >>> MGW address and context ID. Is this understanding >> right? please >>> clarify. >>> >>> Thanks and Regards >>> Geetha >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Megaco mailing list >>> Megaco@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Megaco mailing list >>> Megaco@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > From kboyle@huawei.com Thu May 21 02:28:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6308A3A6957 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:28:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XC6VKAD+2Jpm for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga01-in.huawei.com (usaga01-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581D23A698B for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga01-in [172.18.4.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KJZ003IZME7QE@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from B90927 (cpe-069-134-162-056.nc.res.rr.com [69.134.162.56]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KJZ00EXNME7TB@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 05:30:07 -0400 From: Kevin Boyle In-reply-to: <4A151DAF.3080503@rogers.com> To: 'Tom Taylor' , 'Priya Krishnan' , 'megaco ietf' Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcnZ9e1n9AMdmHHmRmiPtOp5buUKHgAAHX1w References: <27022.61441.qm@web32207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A151DAF.3080503@rogers.com> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:28:31 -0000 I agree with Tom. ContextIDs per H.248.1 are a (very large) integer. Any bit-level construct associated with the assignment of ContextIDs is implementation in the VMG. That implementation may be in reference to a profile that makes such assignment, but it is not in the base specification. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tom Taylor Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:24 AM To: Priya Krishnan; megaco ietf Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID Your conclusion is correct. Your description of the structure of the context ID is implementation detail, unless you are quoting from some profile specification. Priya Krishnan wrote: > > Thanks Kevin and Schwarz for the response, > > It is true that context IDs are unique within one Vmgw. But the confusion is because of so many units/subunits in picture that makes a physical MGW. > > A physical MGW can be made of multiple ISU. Within an ISU there could be multiple VMGW etc.. > > Also a context ID has 2 parts , first part is the logical ID of ISU and the second part running number maintained within VMGW. This makes me think that within a physical MGW the context IDs are unique because the first part [logical address of ISU] is always diff for diff ISU that makes context ID number different. > > > So I guess we can assume that context ID is unique for one H.248 control link or control association. > > Best Regards > Geetha > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Kevin Boyle wrote: > >> From: Kevin Boyle >> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID >> To: "'Schwarz Albrecht'" , >> megaco@ietf.org >> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:16 AM I will also add that a >> ContextID is only unique among existing contexts on the MG. Once the >> LONG-TIMER (see Appendix D) expires for a Subtract Command that >> removes the last termination from the context, that ContextID may be >> re-used. Remember that ContextIDs are assigned by the MG. >> >> Note also that ContextIDs do not have to be unique in a physical MG. >> If the physical MG is partitioned into multiple virtual MGs, the >> ContextID only has to be unique per VMG. >> >> Kevin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of >> Schwarz Albrecht >> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:16 AM >> To: megaco@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID >> >> Like to add: >> there is a unique name space of ContextID values because there is a >> single CA (H.248 Control Association) between a pair of MGC and MG >> entities. >> (Please note that there is not any difference between a physical or >> virtual MG, - there's just one CA.) >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org >>> [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of Raphael Tryster >>> Sent: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2009 07:58 >>> To: Priya Krishnan; megaco@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID >>> >>> Yes. It is actually quite likely to occur if >> multiple MGs initialize >>> at the same time and all start assigning context IDs >> from 1. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org >>> [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of Priya Krishnan >>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 8:47 AM >>> To: megaco@ietf.org >>> Subject: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> A context ID is unique within a physical MGW. But when >> we access a >>> context report at MGC [example a MSS] can we identify >> any report at >>> MSS using only context ID. >>> >>> My thinking is since MGC connects to many MGW, it >> might have similar >>> context IDs with multiple MGWs. Example there could be >> a context ID 2 >>> with MGW 1 and context ID 2 with MGW 4. In that case >> to identify a >>> particular context related info we might need a >> combination of virtual >>> MGW address and context ID. Is this understanding >> right? please >>> clarify. >>> >>> Thanks and Regards >>> Geetha >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Megaco mailing list >>> Megaco@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Megaco mailing list >>> Megaco@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From vgpriya@yahoo.com Thu May 21 02:29:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33173A6957 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:29:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.934 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.934 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.665, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HZUe-ruhLrIN for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web32204.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32204.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B44FB3A6BE9 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 89805 invoked by uid 60001); 21 May 2009 09:31:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1242898286; bh=kSLi8xu8fs8U/2/8QHdJpqDcQCaF+YCXQWaSrxKWEF0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KcXtGnaceHFIkAwV9qw0vngt4amnhEkjgI/PQRiqEZHw5wflcWkvODFtJG0PgLOhX1D+psg0BFg8GB97FyfvTGmyEfOTG9N+W6H97/7U8pyh0koFyDen9F75nb3DRKtngmWqQEEh290GVog+AeoOaO02LPtd9r//2OhKAdZqDAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vrFtYx8OLk34XDNNdbJ4Qxo/vEeftKpTOVb4Df7eToMqOb3vMYhIegO7TjktunVS5XdXg7Numj1PFy14kOEvegqj52HirlGJDWLbYOMvvVHYCMRlkURDH5HwVU+bQJWgqQuD1Y73HLDRPoTR+kJnNHxi9mjt2Bd38KZlHrRkHt4=; Message-ID: <634653.86995.qm@web32204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: c.G3tyEVM1kYji70AMd6r6N.iTtRoyFtFTHPPenaC4_lTO3Vb51EGuWXWAjklKBX3t3mikRsjg1DvSfHKxi0.iBQikJtoXHIINObl5HLl56JnEwpVVhE2PQKo9FYA.DiM.Da3qaGePqL5Z7XYwy8r8tfnl7vKId1iEBAg6GMwReDVQFe3QMSp970olZaWn0aOyMj3e9iLQMkkguX1LVsEkLsoHbSBznxa85tTWaNa78fIH4wfNe_Lw61y5hVc7HTQ_OEHzfAdDE_ZPTXf4se0OZ.u_om5ipWc_i3q3r_m1Ts0BP4iUvcfFmU1QdOZGGM2PnKqL8DRdM6YyzDRetH2w-- Received: from [202.131.155.20] by web32204.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:31:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 02:31:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Priya Krishnan To: megaco ietf , Tom Taylor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:29:51 -0000 Thanks for the reply. So you are saying the context ID assignment is purely= proprietary [I meant the combination of ISU logical ID and running number = is an example of a way to assign context number]. Diff MGW choose to do thi= s diff forms ? Thanks Priya --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Tom Taylor wrote: > From: Tom Taylor > Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID > To: "Priya Krishnan" , "megaco ietf" > Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 2:23 AM > Your conclusion is correct. Your > description of the structure of the context ID=20 > is implementation detail, unless you are quoting from some > profile specification. >=20 > Priya Krishnan wrote: > >=20 > > Thanks Kevin and Schwarz for the response,=20 > >=A0=20 > > It is true that context IDs are unique within one > Vmgw. But the confusion is because of so many units/subunits > in picture that makes a physical MGW. > >=20 > > A physical MGW can be made of multiple ISU. Within an > ISU there could be multiple VMGW etc.. > >=20 > > Also a context ID has 2 parts , first part is the > logical ID of ISU and the second part running number > maintained within VMGW. This makes me think that within a > physical MGW the context IDs are unique because the first > part [logical address of ISU] is always diff for diff ISU > that makes context ID number different.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > So I guess we can assume that context ID is unique for > one H.248 control link or control association. > >=20 > > Best Regards > > Geetha > > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Kevin Boyle > wrote: > >=20 > >> From: Kevin Boyle > >> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID > >> To: "'Schwarz Albrecht'" , > megaco@ietf.org > >> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:16 AM > >> I will also add that a ContextID is > >> only unique among existing contexts on > >> the MG.=A0 Once the LONG-TIMER (see Appendix D) > expires > >> for a Subtract Command > >> that removes the last termination from the > context, that > >> ContextID may be > >> re-used.=A0 Remember that ContextIDs are > assigned by the > >> MG. > >> > >> Note also that ContextIDs do not have to be unique > in a > >> physical MG.=A0 If the > >> physical MG is partitioned into multiple virtual > MGs, the > >> ContextID only has > >> to be unique per VMG. > >> > >> Kevin > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org > >> [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] > >> On Behalf Of > >> Schwarz Albrecht > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:16 AM > >> To: megaco@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID > >> > >> Like to add: > >> there is a unique name space of ContextID values > because > >> there is a single > >> CA (H.248 Control Association) between a pair of > MGC and MG > >> entities. > >> (Please note that there is not any difference > between a > >> physical or virtual > >> MG, - there's just one CA.) > >> > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org > >>> [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] > >> On Behalf Of Raphael Tryster > >>> Sent: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2009 07:58 > >>> To: Priya Krishnan; megaco@ietf.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context > ID > >>> > >>> Yes.=A0 It is actually quite likely to > occur if > >> multiple MGs initialize=20 > >>> at the same time and all start assigning > context IDs > >> from 1. > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org > >>> [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] > >> On Behalf Of Priya Krishnan > >>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 8:47 AM > >>> To: megaco@ietf.org > >>> Subject: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> A context ID is unique within a physical MGW. > But when > >> we access a=20 > >>> context report at MGC [example a MSS] can we > identify > >> any report at=20 > >>> MSS using only context ID. > >>> > >>> My thinking is since MGC connects to many MGW, > it > >> might have similar=20 > >>> context IDs with multiple MGWs. Example there > could be > >> a context ID 2=20 > >>> with MGW 1 and context ID 2 with MGW 4. In > that case > >> to identify a=20 > >>> particular context related info we might need > a > >> combination of virtual=20 > >>> MGW address and context ID. Is this > understanding > >> right? please=20 > >>> clarify. > >>> > >>> Thanks and Regards > >>> Geetha > >>> > >>> > >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> Megaco mailing list > >>> Megaco@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> Megaco mailing list > >>> Megaco@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Megaco mailing list > >> Megaco@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Megaco mailing list > >> Megaco@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > >> > >=20 > >=20 > >=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 > > _______________________________________________ > > Megaco mailing list > > Megaco@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From tom.taylor@rogers.com Thu May 21 02:40:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB07A28C0F3 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:40:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.258 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.258 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.341, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4oT97fV733Xi for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp131.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp131.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 02C6528C0EA for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 02:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 80418 invoked from network); 21 May 2009 09:42:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2YkfY+G1fTx/s0EpXZFrdyojo0m84J5uSqntimrObCeSJxadYTlu8uQ832vwrGoLSI2nETgyZOmgrmrc92UvHJkHiidUZOOmBYRVLpTMya1CO5v/pYZKGaNV5CcvMEILQiJQwVULDZ4C2avKk5hol+VQuLphJy1wVr6jSygEOXQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?156.106.219.107?) (tom.taylor@156.106.219.107 with plain) by smtp131.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 May 2009 09:42:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: NTYLUWgVM1kOLo_J71GNep5ydCdOtZ3x.O5vbjDo45.9OWvsuvukryy37p3dmJl7kA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4A1521ED.9000209@rogers.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:42:05 +0200 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Priya Krishnan , megaco ietf References: <634653.86995.qm@web32204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <634653.86995.qm@web32204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Megaco] Uniqueness of context ID X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:40:28 -0000 Yes, that's right. Priya Krishnan wrote: > Thanks for the reply. So you are saying the context ID assignment is purely proprietary [I meant the combination of ISU logical ID and running number is an example of a way to assign context number]. Diff MGW choose to do this diff forms ? > > Thanks > Priya > ... From ron.ho.megaco@gmail.com Thu May 21 13:20:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BC63A6C91 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 13:20:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_14=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TkKG0X+QZDXQ for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 13:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ew0-f176.google.com (mail-ew0-f176.google.com [209.85.219.176]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B833A6DF7 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 13:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so1463901ewy.37 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 13:22:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YMZWkrxjBexl6AI5oFFLoGkVFqZmOIBsCFFqzHQ7gNY=; b=FwRcqYg4PsOI8BoUCUcehxMp6n7s/+j3XZ4trkdfPSp1q2YUL8aWKd6MXu7tCFrMFW upcdAG+MSYSIbL7oytgzT7wu/c1a5aHt+DZKlNsU5WAWIDkINxqNaarMFP+yg5aSRlcz cexs7pM0ubfKzk8rpPCbQYmR5+PGYsOGlDs2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=WKxXhaWrNMb384RtxXZgJq/0UFbhhSa7AD7nEZSwjWDVbI0LMuB3T+NxWNyQKewrZg 4oGVTbOsjbVKVcnftqa8Je3O6vjDyFnqjoqxhatCyd/A4OpVp/PpRIV4TbSBV8Lvet3a xqlQrQoLYyBLPpvCjD6Ibf3bzaVzheo5Nvra8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.51.18 with SMTP id y18mr3781534eby.19.1242937339913; Thu, 21 May 2009 13:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:22:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: Ron Ho To: megaco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be8789fa6e9046a71e6d5 Subject: [Megaco] MSRP switch question - H.248.69 X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:20:45 -0000 --0015174be8789fa6e9046a71e6d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, I would like to learn more about the Megaco MSRP extension - H.248.69. I am confused about the role of the MSRP switch. 1. Does the MG (aka the MSRP switch) has it own msrp uri? I assume it does because the MG need to populate the a=path attribute in the local descriptor in SDP. Am I right? I think it is needed for MG to send a message out. It needs to populate the from-path msrp uri, correct? 2. When an endpoint send a message to another endpoint thru the MG (MSRP switch), does it put the targeted endpoitn msrp uri or the MG's msrp uri (the a=path that returned from the MG as the local descriptor in SDP)? 3. In H.248.69, it mentioned the MG is merely to relaying the message between two or more terminations. Does it mean the message is passed from one termination to the other termination as is keeping all the headers identical? Or, does the MG need to create a new message but puting the content of the receiving message there? Also, is the transaction in the message to send out by the MG kept the same as in the received message if a new message is created? 4. H.248.69 allows playing of message from the MG to the termination. I assume that the MG's msrp uri will be used in the from-path msrp uri field. Right? 5. In section 13 of the extension (Messageing Filtering package), it mentioned about incoming message in 13.1.1 and outgoing message in 13.1.3. I am not entire clear about the defintion of incoming and outgoing message. And it mentioned "User" in the 13.1.3 description. What is it refering to? the endpoint? the MGC? or what? 6. Is there any sample MSRP call flows/traces available for MSRP messages flowing through the MG? 7. Is there any sample Megaco call flows/trace avaiabel for the MSRP call? Thanks, Ron --0015174be8789fa6e9046a71e6d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All,

I would like to learn more about the Megaco MSRP extension -= H.248.69. I am confused about the role of the MSRP switch.

1. Does = the MG (aka the MSRP switch) has it own msrp uri? I assume it does because = the MG need to populate the a=3Dpath attribute in the local descriptor in S= DP. Am I right? I think it is needed for MG to send a message out. It needs= to populate the from-path msrp uri, correct?

2. When an endpoint send a message to another endpoint thru the MG (MSR= P switch), does it put the targeted endpoitn msrp uri or the MG's msrp = uri (the a=3Dpath that returned from the MG as the local descriptor in SDP)= ?

3. In H.248.69, it mentioned the MG is merely to relaying the message b= etween two or more terminations. Does it mean the message is passed from on= e termination to the other termination as is keeping all the headers identi= cal? Or, does the MG need to create a new message but puting the content of= the receiving message there? Also, is the transaction in the message to se= nd out by the MG kept the same as in the received message if a new message = is created?

4. H.248.69 allows playing of message from the MG to the termination. I= assume that the MG's msrp uri will be used in the from-path msrp uri f= ield. Right?

5. In section 13 of the extension (Messageing Filtering= package), it mentioned about incoming message in 13.1.1 and outgoing messa= ge in 13.1.3. I am not entire clear about the defintion of incoming and out= going message. And it mentioned "User" in the 13.1.3 description.= What is it refering to? the endpoint? the MGC? or what?

6. Is there any sample MSRP call flows/traces available for MSRP messag= es flowing through the MG?

7. Is there any sample Megaco call flows/= trace avaiabel for the MSRP call?


Thanks,
Ron
--0015174be8789fa6e9046a71e6d5-- From Christian.Groves@nteczone.com Thu May 21 18:55:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2723A6E64 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:55:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.25 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.25 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.244, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_14=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rBJ+xwLphcbQ for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1101B3A6E54 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 18:55:11 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUCAJeiFUp20O7C/2dsb2JhbAAI0jiECwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,230,1241361000"; d="scan'208";a="382089182" Received: from ppp118-208-238-194.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([118.208.238.194]) by ipmail04.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 22 May 2009 11:26:27 +0930 Message-ID: <4A160646.4020404@nteczone.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:56:22 +1000 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ron Ho References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: megaco Subject: Re: [Megaco] MSRP switch question - H.248.69 X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 01:55:13 -0000 Hello Ron, This work stemmed from the work/requirements that 3GPP produced regarding MSRP. 3GPP TS23.333 and 29.333 contains more information regarding this: ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/latest/Rel-8/23_series/23333-830.zip ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/latest/Rel-8/29_series/29333-841.zip Regards, Christian Ron Ho wrote: > Hi All, > > I would like to learn more about the Megaco MSRP extension - H.248.69. > I am confused about the role of the MSRP switch. [CNG] Section 3.2.3 gives a definition of "MSRP switch" its essentially a MSRP relay used for conferencing. Thus I would assume what is described in RFC4976 would largely apply. I think this should cover the question 1-3 below. > > 1. Does the MG (aka the MSRP switch) has it own msrp uri? I assume it > does because the MG need to populate the a=path attribute in the local > descriptor in SDP. Am I right? I think it is needed for MG to send a > message out. It needs to populate the from-path msrp uri, correct? > > 2. When an endpoint send a message to another endpoint thru the MG > (MSRP switch), does it put the targeted endpoitn msrp uri or the MG's > msrp uri (the a=path that returned from the MG as the local descriptor > in SDP)? > > 3. In H.248.69, it mentioned the MG is merely to relaying the message > between two or more terminations. Does it mean the message is passed > from one termination to the other termination as is keeping all the > headers identical? Or, does the MG need to create a new message but > puting the content of the receiving message there? Also, is the > transaction in the message to send out by the MG kept the same as in > the received message if a new message is created? > 4. H.248.69 allows playing of message from the MG to the termination. > I assume that the MG's msrp uri will be used in the from-path msrp uri > field. Right? [CNG] Allows the MGC to request the MG to play a message from a termination? Yes unless the MGC has specified something else in the message contents. > > 5. In section 13 of the extension (Messageing Filtering package), it > mentioned about incoming message in 13.1.1 and outgoing message in > 13.1.3. I am not entire clear about the defintion of incoming and > outgoing message. And it mentioned "User" in the 13.1.3 description. > What is it refering to? the endpoint? the MGC? or what? [CNG] Think User = Termination, and that the Termination is a message box. Therefore messages that are received from other users (other terminations in the Context) are treated as incoming. Vice versa for outgoing message. > > 6. Is there any sample MSRP call flows/traces available for MSRP > messages flowing through the MG? > 7. Is there any sample Megaco call flows/trace avaiabel for the MSRP call? [CNG] I only know of the 3GPP documents. > > > Thanks, > Ron > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > From ron.ho.megaco@gmail.com Fri May 22 09:30:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478E13A6E7B for ; Fri, 22 May 2009 09:30:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_14=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jbVO+-OWGa2K for ; Fri, 22 May 2009 09:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ew0-f176.google.com (mail-ew0-f176.google.com [209.85.219.176]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287583A6D98 for ; Fri, 22 May 2009 09:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so1943401ewy.37 for ; Fri, 22 May 2009 09:31:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=k468XMw9lT/C4WDb5p35g2d8j9n+xhZUj8Vbw2EApEo=; b=sblj2siZUm3QQVMdFl4nyI1aL/h9da3aYwnoSvXqplPNvQ+s4cZFlNmBJ/5d826lW5 RzrzUKA23dsPW90F1MaE+8ozXOOh+kEOaqp84sYNxBX3oIdRu+KyJmbmaeAMGHhr+g4t u7WdbwCKSQeFyvmUTkMXROZBacaopnnjT2JkY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=QKIPXhQiffQLJyfOXgiYg8lj+RHcboOFo1p4fC5YKe/Y/lqvQAsxU/xGSbKhU5sYW5 Pvp/TFVooRKpiWYVgtCgYblOO7xZpFaoRx5zmZIFOqrhhGAl8V27/p+HfwkBtnLOb/Q0 hWHWrHwMeWElWgtP6zdDXSyxOgUrKtgyLFntk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.10.8 with SMTP id 8mr1098228ebj.30.1243009914792; Fri, 22 May 2009 09:31:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A160646.4020404@nteczone.com> References: <4A160646.4020404@nteczone.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:31:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: Ron Ho To: megaco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bde466c6c15046a82ccb6 Subject: Re: [Megaco] MSRP switch question - H.248.69 X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:30:21 -0000 --0015174bde466c6c15046a82ccb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Christian for your clarification. I can understand that a device like media/conference server will take the role of MSRP relay. What about BGF in the IMS network? It plays the role of a session border controller. It is unlikely that a BGF will be used as a conference server. It is just an intermediate device a IMS call must flow through. In that scenario, is the BGF really acting as a MSRP relay as specified in RCC 4976? Also, RFC 4976 mandated the TLS support. Is it required for the BGF scenario? What if the endpoint does not support TLS? In a pure peer-to-peer MSRP communication, TLS is not mandatory. A BGF is a trusted network element in the IMS network and a user is sending a message to another user in the network and is being forced to go thru the BGF. Does it mean that TLS is forced on the connection? Many thanks, Ron On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Christian Groves < Christian.Groves@nteczone.com> wrote: > Hello Ron, > > This work stemmed from the work/requirements that 3GPP produced regarding > MSRP. 3GPP TS23.333 and 29.333 contains more information regarding this: > ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/latest/Rel-8/23_series/23333-830.zip > ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/latest/Rel-8/29_series/29333-841.zip > > Regards, Christian > > Ron Ho wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I would like to learn more about the Megaco MSRP extension - H.248.69. I >> am confused about the role of the MSRP switch. >> > [CNG] Section 3.2.3 gives a definition of "MSRP switch" its essentially a > MSRP relay used for conferencing. Thus I would assume what is described in > RFC4976 would largely apply. I think this should cover the question 1-3 > below. > >> >> 1. Does the MG (aka the MSRP switch) has it own msrp uri? I assume it does >> because the MG need to populate the a=path attribute in the local descriptor >> in SDP. Am I right? I think it is needed for MG to send a message out. It >> needs to populate the from-path msrp uri, correct? >> >> 2. When an endpoint send a message to another endpoint thru the MG (MSRP >> switch), does it put the targeted endpoitn msrp uri or the MG's msrp uri >> (the a=path that returned from the MG as the local descriptor in SDP)? >> >> 3. In H.248.69, it mentioned the MG is merely to relaying the message >> between two or more terminations. Does it mean the message is passed from >> one termination to the other termination as is keeping all the headers >> identical? Or, does the MG need to create a new message but puting the >> content of the receiving message there? Also, is the transaction in the >> message to send out by the MG kept the same as in the received message if a >> new message is created? >> 4. H.248.69 allows playing of message from the MG to the termination. I >> assume that the MG's msrp uri will be used in the from-path msrp uri field. >> Right? >> > [CNG] Allows the MGC to request the MG to play a message from a > termination? Yes unless the MGC has specified something else in the message > contents. > >> >> 5. In section 13 of the extension (Messageing Filtering package), it >> mentioned about incoming message in 13.1.1 and outgoing message in 13.1.3. I >> am not entire clear about the defintion of incoming and outgoing message. >> And it mentioned "User" in the 13.1.3 description. What is it refering to? >> the endpoint? the MGC? or what? >> > [CNG] Think User = Termination, and that the Termination is a message box. > Therefore messages that are received from other users (other terminations in > the Context) are treated as incoming. Vice versa for outgoing message. > >> >> 6. Is there any sample MSRP call flows/traces available for MSRP messages >> flowing through the MG? >> 7. Is there any sample Megaco call flows/trace avaiabel for the MSRP call? >> > [CNG] I only know of the 3GPP documents. > >> >> >> Thanks, >> Ron >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> >> > --0015174bde466c6c15046a82ccb6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Christian for your clarification.

I can understand that a dev= ice like media/conference server will take the role of MSRP relay. What abo= ut BGF in the IMS network? It plays the role of a session border controller= . It is unlikely that a BGF will be used as a conference server. It is just= an intermediate device a IMS call must flow through. In that scenario, is = the BGF really acting as a MSRP relay as specified in RCC 4976? Also, RFC 4= 976 mandated the TLS support. Is it required for the BGF scenario? What if = the endpoint does not support TLS? In a pure peer-to-peer MSRP communicatio= n, TLS is not mandatory. A BGF is a trusted network element in the IMS netw= ork and a user is sending a message to another user in the network and is b= eing forced to go thru the BGF. Does it mean that TLS is forced on the conn= ection?

Many thanks,
Ron

On Thu, May 21, 2= 009 at 9:56 PM, Christian Groves <Christian.Groves@nteczone.com> w= rote:
Hello Ron,

This work stemmed from the work/requirements that 3GPP produced regarding M= SRP. 3GPP TS23.333 and 29.333 contains more information regarding this:
ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/latest/Rel-8/23_series/23333-830.= zip
ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/latest/Rel-8/29_series/29333-841.= zip

Regards, Christian


Ron Ho wrote:
Hi All,

I would like to learn more about the Megaco MSRP extension - H.248.69. I am= confused about the role of the MSRP switch.
[CNG] Section 3.2.3 gives a definition of "MSRP switch" its essen= tially a MSRP relay used for conferencing. Thus I would assume what is desc= ribed in RFC4976 would largely apply. I think this should cover the questio= n 1-3 below.


1. Does the MG (aka the MSRP switch) has it own msrp uri? I assume it does = because the MG need to populate the a=3Dpath attribute in the local descrip= tor in SDP. Am I right? I think it is needed for MG to send a message out. = It needs to populate the from-path msrp uri, correct?

2. When an endpoint send a message to another endpoint thru the MG (MSRP sw= itch), does it put the targeted endpoitn msrp uri or the MG's msrp uri = (the a=3Dpath that returned from the MG as the local descriptor in SDP)?
3. In H.248.69, it mentioned the MG is merely to relaying the message betwe= en two or more terminations. Does it mean the message is passed from one te= rmination to the other termination as is keeping all the headers identical?= Or, does the MG need to create a new message but puting the content of the= receiving message there? Also, is the transaction in the message to send o= ut by the MG kept the same as in the received message if a new message is c= reated?
4. H.248.69 allows playing of message from the MG to the termination. I ass= ume that the MG's msrp uri will be used in the from-path msrp uri field= . Right?
[CNG] Allows the MGC to request the MG to play a message from a termination= ? =A0Yes unless the MGC has specified something else in the message content= s.


5. In section 13 of the extension (Messageing Filtering package), it mentio= ned about incoming message in 13.1.1 and outgoing message in 13.1.3. I am n= ot entire clear about the defintion of incoming and outgoing message. And i= t mentioned "User" in the 13.1.3 description. What is it refering= to? the endpoint? the MGC? or what?
[CNG] Think User =3D Termination, and that the Termination is a message box= . Therefore messages that are received from other users (other terminations= in the Context) are treated as incoming. Vice versa for outgoing message.<= div class=3D"im">

6. Is there any sample MSRP call flows/traces available for MSRP messages f= lowing through the MG?
7. Is there any sample Megaco call flows/trace avaiabel for the MSRP call?<= br>
[CNG] I only know of the 3GPP documents.


Thanks,
Ron
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--0015174bde466c6c15046a82ccb6-- From Albrecht.Schwarz@alcatel-lucent.de Fri May 22 22:10:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E4B3A6CC4 for ; Fri, 22 May 2009 22:10:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.250, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_14=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TFU3VLdhsU-S for ; Fri, 22 May 2009 22:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail6.alcatel.fr (smail6.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5C03A6B39 for ; Fri, 22 May 2009 22:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRVELSBHS03.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [155.132.6.75]) by smail6.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id n4N5BxtF026595; Sat, 23 May 2009 07:12:00 +0200 Received: from FRVELSMBS23.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.56]) by FRVELSBHS03.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 23 May 2009 07:11:59 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9DB64.FFDD5269" Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 07:11:58 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] MSRP switch question - H.248.69 Thread-Index: Acna+uKDTNN4T6WFStq3WbVfbdo1LQAaRKgQ References: <4A160646.4020404@nteczone.com> From: "Schwarz Albrecht" To: "Ron Ho" , "megaco" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2009 05:11:59.0790 (UTC) FILETIME=[002D04E0:01C9DB65] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.84 Subject: Re: [Megaco] MSRP switch question - H.248.69 X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 05:10:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9DB64.FFDD5269 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ron, your questions are independent of H.248.69, they are more related to engineering IMS/NGN/... *networks* than H.248 package capabilities. =20 MSRP vs BGF: some functions may be shifted between MSRP & BGF, like e.g. voice transcoding.=20 H.248.69 could be supported by a BGF, - why not?=20 H.248.69 is not yet integrated in any H.248 BGF profile, that's why not covered by BGF. =20 However, a BGF may be already positioned in between a MSRP client and MSRP relay, - TISPAN Ia profiles do support the handling of TCP bearer connections (IM-over-MSRP/TCP ... with or w/o TLS). =20 That said, you should raise your questions in 3GPP, TISPAN, ITU-T ... =20 Albrecht =20 ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ron Ho Sent: Freitag, 22. Mai 2009 18:32 To: megaco Subject: Re: [Megaco] MSRP switch question - H.248.69 =09 =09 Thanks Christian for your clarification. =09 I can understand that a device like media/conference server will take the role of MSRP relay. What about BGF in the IMS network? It plays the role of a session border controller. It is unlikely that a BGF will be used as a conference server. It is just an intermediate device a IMS call must flow through. In that scenario, is the BGF really acting as a MSRP relay as specified in RCC 4976? Also, RFC 4976 mandated the TLS support. Is it required for the BGF scenario? What if the endpoint does not support TLS? In a pure peer-to-peer MSRP communication, TLS is not mandatory. A BGF is a trusted network element in the IMS network and a user is sending a message to another user in the network and is being forced to go thru the BGF. Does it mean that TLS is forced on the connection? =09 Many thanks, Ron =09 =09 On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Christian Groves wrote: =09 Hello Ron, =09 This work stemmed from the work/requirements that 3GPP produced regarding MSRP. 3GPP TS23.333 and 29.333 contains more information regarding this: =09 ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/latest/Rel-8/23_series/23333-830.zip =09 ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/latest/Rel-8/29_series/29333-841.zip =09 Regards, Christian=20 Ron Ho wrote: =09 Hi All, =09 I would like to learn more about the Megaco MSRP extension - H.248.69. I am confused about the role of the MSRP switch. =09 [CNG] Section 3.2.3 gives a definition of "MSRP switch" its essentially a MSRP relay used for conferencing. Thus I would assume what is described in RFC4976 would largely apply. I think this should cover the question 1-3 below.=20 1. Does the MG (aka the MSRP switch) has it own msrp uri? I assume it does because the MG need to populate the a=3Dpath attribute in the local descriptor in SDP. Am I right? I think it is needed for MG to send a message out. It needs to populate the from-path msrp uri, correct? =09 2. When an endpoint send a message to another endpoint thru the MG (MSRP switch), does it put the targeted endpoitn msrp uri or the MG's msrp uri (the a=3Dpath that returned from the MG as the local descriptor in SDP)? =09 3. In H.248.69, it mentioned the MG is merely to relaying the message between two or more terminations. Does it mean the message is passed from one termination to the other termination as is keeping all the headers identical? Or, does the MG need to create a new message but puting the content of the receiving message there? Also, is the transaction in the message to send out by the MG kept the same as in the received message if a new message is created? 4. H.248.69 allows playing of message from the MG to the termination. I assume that the MG's msrp uri will be used in the from-path msrp uri field. Right? =09 [CNG] Allows the MGC to request the MG to play a message from a termination? Yes unless the MGC has specified something else in the message contents.=20 5. In section 13 of the extension (Messageing Filtering package), it mentioned about incoming message in 13.1.1 and outgoing message in 13.1.3. I am not entire clear about the defintion of incoming and outgoing message. And it mentioned "User" in the 13.1.3 description. What is it refering to? the endpoint? the MGC? or what? =09 [CNG] Think User =3D Termination, and that the Termination is a message box. Therefore messages that are received from other users (other terminations in the Context) are treated as incoming. Vice versa for outgoing message.=20 6. Is there any sample MSRP call flows/traces available for MSRP messages flowing through the MG? 7. Is there any sample Megaco call flows/trace avaiabel for the MSRP call? =09 [CNG] I only know of the 3GPP documents. =09 Thanks, Ron =09 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ =09 _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco =20 =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9DB64.FFDD5269 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ron,
your questions are independent of H.248.69, = they are more=20 related to engineering IMS/NGN/... *networks* than H.248 package=20 capabilities.
 
MSRP vs BGF: some functions may be shifted = between MSRP=20 & BGF, like e.g. voice transcoding.
H.248.69 could be supported by a BGF, - why = not?=20
H.248.69 is not yet integrated in any H.248 BGF = profile,=20 that's why not covered by BGF.
 
However, a BGF may be already positioned in = between a MSRP=20 client and MSRP relay, - TISPAN Ia profiles do support the handling of = TCP=20 bearer connections (IM-over-MSRP/TCP ... with or w/o = TLS).
 
That said, you should raise your questions in = 3GPP, TISPAN,=20 ITU-T ...
 
Albrecht
 

From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org=20 [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ron = Ho
Sent:=20 Freitag, 22. Mai 2009 18:32
To: megaco
Subject: = Re:=20 [Megaco] MSRP switch question - H.248.69

Thanks Christian for your clarification.

I can = understand=20 that a device like media/conference server will take the role of MSRP = relay.=20 What about BGF in the IMS network? It plays the role of a session = border=20 controller. It is unlikely that a BGF will be used as a conference = server. It=20 is just an intermediate device a IMS call must flow through. In that = scenario,=20 is the BGF really acting as a MSRP relay as specified in RCC 4976? = Also, RFC=20 4976 mandated the TLS support. Is it required for the BGF scenario? = What if=20 the endpoint does not support TLS? In a pure peer-to-peer MSRP = communication,=20 TLS is not mandatory. A BGF is a trusted network element in the IMS = network=20 and a user is sending a message to another user in the network and is = being=20 forced to go thru the BGF. Does it mean that TLS is forced on the=20 connection?

Many thanks,
Ron

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Christian = Groves <Christian.Groves@nteczone.c= om>=20 wrote:
Hello=20 Ron,

This work stemmed from the work/requirements that 3GPP = produced=20 regarding MSRP. 3GPP TS23.333 and 29.333 contains more information = regarding=20 this:
ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/latest/Rel-8/23_series/23333-830= .zip
ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/latest/Rel-8/29_series/29333-841= .zip

Regards,=20 Christian


Ron Ho wrote:
Hi=20 All,

I would like to learn more about the Megaco MSRP = extension -=20 H.248.69. I am confused about the role of the MSRP=20 switch.
[CNG] Section 3.2.3 gives a definition = of=20 "MSRP switch" its essentially a MSRP relay used for conferencing. = Thus I=20 would assume what is described in RFC4976 would largely apply. I = think this=20 should cover the question 1-3 below.


1.=20 Does the MG (aka the MSRP switch) has it own msrp uri? I assume it = does=20 because the MG need to populate the a=3Dpath attribute in the = local=20 descriptor in SDP. Am I right? I think it is needed for MG to send = a=20 message out. It needs to populate the from-path msrp uri,=20 correct?

2. When an endpoint send a message to another = endpoint=20 thru the MG (MSRP switch), does it put the targeted endpoitn msrp = uri or=20 the MG's msrp uri (the a=3Dpath that returned from the MG as the = local=20 descriptor in SDP)?

3. In H.248.69, it mentioned the MG is = merely=20 to relaying the message between two or more terminations. Does it = mean the=20 message is passed from one termination to the other termination as = is=20 keeping all the headers identical? Or, does the MG need to create = a new=20 message but puting the content of the receiving message there? = Also, is=20 the transaction in the message to send out by the MG kept the same = as in=20 the received message if a new message is created?
4. H.248.69 = allows=20 playing of message from the MG to the termination. I assume that = the MG's=20 msrp uri will be used in the from-path msrp uri field.=20 Right?
[CNG] Allows the MGC to request the MG = to play=20 a message from a termination?  Yes unless the MGC has specified = something else in the message contents.


5.=20 In section 13 of the extension (Messageing Filtering package), it=20 mentioned about incoming message in 13.1.1 and outgoing message in = 13.1.3.=20 I am not entire clear about the defintion of incoming and outgoing = message. And it mentioned "User" in the 13.1.3 description. What = is it=20 refering to? the endpoint? the MGC? or = what?
[CNG]=20 Think User =3D Termination, and that the Termination is a message = box.=20 Therefore messages that are received from other users (other = terminations in=20 the Context) are treated as incoming. Vice versa for outgoing = message.


6.=20 Is there any sample MSRP call flows/traces available for MSRP = messages=20 flowing through the MG?
7. Is there any sample Megaco call = flows/trace=20 avaiabel for the MSRP call?
[CNG] I only = know of the=20 3GPP documents.


Thanks,
Ron
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C9DB64.FFDD5269-- From Albrecht.Schwarz@alcatel-lucent.de Thu May 28 08:39:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491813A6C38 for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 08:39:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.785 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.785 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.136, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EV+W+eLgTbfl for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 08:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr (smail3.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6AA3A6CCE for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 08:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRVELSBHS04.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [155.132.6.76]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id n4SFfT2v023222; Thu, 28 May 2009 17:41:32 +0200 Received: from FRVELSMBS23.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.56]) by FRVELSBHS04.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 28 May 2009 17:41:30 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:41:29 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 21WTD041 Progress of H.248 Ia Profile - Living Lists for Ia Version 4 & Ia Version 5 Thread-Index: Acnfql29PwZW5l6RReG/jUAD/HQywAAACivw From: "Schwarz Albrecht" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2009 15:41:30.0206 (UTC) FILETIME=[C529DFE0:01C9DFAA] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.83 Cc: megaco Subject: [Megaco] 21WTD041 Progress of H.248 Ia Profile - Living Lists for Ia Version 4 & Ia Version 5 X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:39:56 -0000 fyi, 21WTD041 is uploaded. -Albrecht=20