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machine.currencies is ludicrous and totally unfounded. The funds currency From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Sun Dec 14 02:22:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765E43A68B9; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:22:09 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4EE3A68B9 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:22:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.761 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.761 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_ASCII0=1.5] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pxZCg397rG1D for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:22:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from tparelay1.telrad.com (tparelay1.telrad.com [62.90.58.240]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9143A6853 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from tparelay1.telrad.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tparelay1.telrad.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id mBEADpcm025184 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:13:51 +0200 Received: from TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il ([141.226.76.177]) by tparelay1.telrad.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id mBEADpfS025179 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:13:51 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:24:02 +0200 Message-ID: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121DB6@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SDP question Thread-Index: Acld1hZBM5Pq1VDLQBuUfNe/LLidYw== From: "Tamar Nemet" To: Subject: [Megaco] SDP question X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0783002414==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0783002414== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C95DD6.15C24B36" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95DD6.15C24B36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 The remote SDP we get in the Megaco ADD command includes the following line: =20 m=3Daudio 50006 NoToken 0 8 18 110 111 =20 What is the meaning of NoToken here ? I usually get RTP/AVP here and didn't find any explanation in the SDP standard. =20 Can anybody help ? =20 Thanks, Tamar ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95DD6.15C24B36 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hi,
 
The = remote SDP we=20 get in the Megaco ADD command includes the following = line:
 
m=3Daudio 50006 = NoToken 0 8 18 110=20 111
 
What = is the meaning=20 of NoToken here ? I usually get RTP/AVP here and didn't find any = explanation in=20 the SDP standard.
 
Can = anybody help=20 ?
 
Thanks,
Tamar
=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95DD6.15C24B36-- --===============0783002414== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============0783002414==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Sun Dec 14 04:03:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE7D3A6995; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:03:54 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA92B3A6985 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:03:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.674 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.674 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.574, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7CnoOJv24tC6 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:03:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail5.alcatel.fr (smail5.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C105E3A6934 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRVELSBHS03.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [155.132.6.75]) by smail5.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id mBEC3eEd030676; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:03:40 +0100 Received: from FRVELSMBS23.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.55]) by FRVELSBHS03.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:03:40 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:03:39 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121DB6@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] SDP question Thread-Index: Acld1hZBM5Pq1VDLQBuUfNe/LLidYwADRD1A References: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121DB6@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> From: "Schwarz Albrecht" To: "Tamar Nemet" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2008 12:03:40.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[0107B9E0:01C95DE4] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.13 Subject: Re: [Megaco] SDP question X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0558593362==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0558593362== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C95DE4.009D7712" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95DE4.009D7712 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tamar, which H.248 profile do you use? =20 If you use an H.248 Border Gateway profile, then it might be the "-" character. See ETSI ES 283 018. [You may also see the discussion on RFC 2327 vs 4566, because the "-" was not yet part of the RFC 2327 grammar.] =20 However, I would rather suppose an error in the descriptor (due to the media format list, which implies a transport protocol (stack), which might be RTP profile "AVP" here ... =20 =20 ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tamar Nemet Sent: Sonntag, 14. Dezember 2008 11:24 To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] SDP question =20 Hi, =20 The remote SDP we get in the Megaco ADD command includes the following line: =20 m=3Daudio 50006 NoToken 0 8 18 110 111 =20 What is the meaning of NoToken here ? I usually get RTP/AVP here and didn't find any explanation in the SDP standard. =20 Can anybody help ? =20 Thanks, Tamar ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95DE4.009D7712 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Tamar,

which = H.248 profile do you use?

 

If you = use an H.248 Border Gateway profile, then it might be the “-“ = character.

See ETSI = ES 283 018.

[You may = also see the discussion on RFC 2327 vs 4566, because the “-“ was not = yet part of the RFC 2327 grammar.]

 

However, = I would rather suppose an error in the descriptor (due to the media format list, = which implies a transport protocol (stack), which might be RTP profile = “AVP” here …

 

 

From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tamar Nemet
Sent: Sonntag, 14. = Dezember 2008 11:24
To: megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] SDP = question

 

Hi,

 

The remote SDP we get in the Megaco ADD command = includes the following line:

 

m=3Daudio 50006 NoToken 0 8 18 = 110 111

 

What is the meaning of NoToken here ? I usually get = RTP/AVP here and didn't find any explanation in the SDP = standard.

 

Can anybody help ?

 

Thanks,

Tamar

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X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hi All, Referring to the call flow examples, for Call Transfer and Call Conference, given in the following: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-megaco-callflows-04 As far as my understanding goes, the only way to differentiate between Call Transfer and Call Conference at MG1/MG3 is to analyze the Owner IP field in SDP part of MODIFY message (Step 37 and step 39, Sec 8.1). If the owner IP received in SDP in Modify is same as previously received owner IP, then it is Call Conference else it Call Transfer. How ever, as per RFC3525, the owner IP field is optional and hence not necessarily present in the SDP part. So what is other way (and may be more concrete approach) to distinguish between Call Transfer and Call conference at MG1 and MG3? Thanks and Regards, Nupur Gupta, Software Engineer, Aricent technologies ltd. _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From jrt4way@amaonline.com Mon Dec 15 03:55:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119C43A698E for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:55:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.88 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.88 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_60=1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=2.219, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id co2vByiZNFz2 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from admtl.com (unknown [75.119.108.179]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 108BF3A68D4 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:55:45 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Re: Order status From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081215115546.108BF3A68D4@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:55:45 -0800 (PST) Having trouble viewing this email? 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From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 15 04:40:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045653A69F2; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:40:40 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4B33A69F2 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:40:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Aaj0fSIVM67V for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from usaga01-in.huawei.com (usaga01-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D433A69EE for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (usaga01-in [172.18.4.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KBX004OS4JFSD@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from B90927 (cpe-069-134-162-056.nc.res.rr.com [69.134.162.56]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KBX003DU4JBKE@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:40:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:40:26 -0500 From: Kevin Boyle In-reply-to: <9ce23d0f0812150249i317804aao82363b20bac2fa96@mail.gmail.com> To: 'nupur gupta' , megaco@ietf.org Message-id: <69279D83A46947DE9483F228C6AB8AE4@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: Acleot9AyjlH/Xg5ReSepWMfp/dc2AADv3Sw References: <9ce23d0f0812150249i317804aao82363b20bac2fa96@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Query regarding Owner IP in SDP field. X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Last I checked, the draft you reference has been expired for 3.5 years. I wouldn't put much stock in expired drafts. As for conference vs. transfer, there are specific call processing requirements for each outlined by the various regional SDOs. These call processing requirements are carried out, and billed for, by the MGC. Since the MG should just do what it is commanded by the MGC and has little to no call processing knowledge, why does it need to know whether a particular manipulation is any particular feature? Kevin -----Original Message----- From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of nupur gupta Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:50 AM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Query regarding Owner IP in SDP field. Hi All, Referring to the call flow examples, for Call Transfer and Call Conference, given in the following: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-megaco-callflows-04 As far as my understanding goes, the only way to differentiate between Call Transfer and Call Conference at MG1/MG3 is to analyze the Owner IP field in SDP part of MODIFY message (Step 37 and step 39, Sec 8.1). If the owner IP received in SDP in Modify is same as previously received owner IP, then it is Call Conference else it Call Transfer. How ever, as per RFC3525, the owner IP field is optional and hence not necessarily present in the SDP part. So what is other way (and may be more concrete approach) to distinguish between Call Transfer and Call conference at MG1 and MG3? Thanks and Regards, Nupur Gupta, Software Engineer, Aricent technologies ltd. _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From nkw1@aeclassic.com Mon Dec 15 07:41:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF663A689D for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:41:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.048 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.048 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LRbij0NrKE03 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from almont.ang.af.mil (unknown [85.96.186.113]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CEF6928C0E9 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:41:01 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Re: Order status From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081215154101.CEF6928C0E9@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:41:01 -0800 (PST) Having trouble viewing this email? 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From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 16 03:15:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273883A6A62; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:15:57 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E093A6911 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:15:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z5Yni3aT6gvB for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:15:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17503A6A66 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:15:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1442256fga.41 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:15:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=UKnnSHhpOxx+HOOzuQlBX6BMVta0IsH7D1VdhCGWRRs=; b=sPgHVZ7+UE45DbhP3O9KLp+6ujDtnZwZSmtK/wFHCuUbMKKc86z/EvpS9iIoydqgdm 5iiuS/sbW03cpJkAtaAMWZbus1C3BR8eZUTjx3cYYynEQEizEBTQvtcvkOZwrdJzu7GS nVI1zoQxfYKAVVU4AMNXaLxKbvyZYbQ9GEQKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=lum6MAD3ivI3vNpDzUhHdua8dc2ku4QlCzq7ea3+DoGahl35IC0J9o7HJPUpeb+rIv M3vXp8ObwkMsN/TJlcfHpXusJvW0/p1sog/skNJdqdoNWZrQ7fLz1C1yybJX2FfcnWOt K1+9e32YU8QzS6lNrRJPYqRxv76sQHowWvM5s= Received: by 10.86.3.4 with SMTP id 4mr4488726fgc.44.1229426146791; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.51.5 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:15:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9ce23d0f0812160315x26501691wab67333a2bfdc6c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:45:46 +0530 From: "nupur gupta" To: megaco@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <69279D83A46947DE9483F228C6AB8AE4@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9ce23d0f0812150249i317804aao82363b20bac2fa96@mail.gmail.com> <69279D83A46947DE9483F228C6AB8AE4@china.huawei.com> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Query regarding Owner IP in SDP field. X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1388323145==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org --===============1388323145== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8544_1934980.1229426146788" ------=_Part_8544_1934980.1229426146788 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Kevin, Thanks for the reply. Actually the point is that if a person is tapping the messages exchanged between MG and MGC (unaware of the Call processing requirements outlined at MGC), then just by looking at these messages what is the way of differentiating between Call Transfer and Call Conference? I understand that whenever a MODIFY request with SDP in remote desciptor is recieved (for a Ephemeral termination whose Remote is alreday set) then either Transfer or Conference is taking place, but still not do know which service exactly and how to find out and differentiate. Between MG2 and MGC (as per the call flows), using Notify event this can be done: a)Flash followed by On Hook for Transfer b)Flash follwoed by Flash for Conference But how between MG1 and MGC or MG3 and MGC? Also, if anyone has the link of latest draft for MEGACO Call Flows, then please share with me the same. Thanks and Regards, Nupur Gupta Software Engineer Aricent Technologies ltd. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Kevin Boyle wrote: > Last I checked, the draft you reference has been expired for 3.5 years. I > wouldn't put much stock in expired drafts. > > As for conference vs. transfer, there are specific call processing > requirements for each outlined by the various regional SDOs. These call > processing requirements are carried out, and billed for, by the MGC. Since > the MG should just do what it is commanded by the MGC and has little to no > call processing knowledge, why does it need to know whether a particular > manipulation is any particular feature? > > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of > nupur gupta > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:50 AM > To: megaco@ietf.org > Subject: [Megaco] Query regarding Owner IP in SDP field. > > Hi All, > > Referring to the call flow examples, for Call Transfer and Call Conference, > given in the following: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-megaco-callflows-04 > > As far as my understanding goes, the only way to differentiate between Call > Transfer and Call Conference at MG1/MG3 is to analyze the Owner IP field in > SDP part of MODIFY message (Step 37 and step 39, Sec 8.1). > If the owner IP received in SDP in Modify is same as previously received > owner IP, then it is Call Conference else it Call Transfer. > > How ever, as per RFC3525, the owner IP field is optional and hence not > necessarily present in the SDP part. > So what is other way (and may be more concrete approach) to distinguish > between Call Transfer and Call conference at MG1 and MG3? > > Thanks and Regards, > Nupur Gupta, > Software Engineer, > Aricent technologies ltd. > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > > > ------=_Part_8544_1934980.1229426146788 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Kevin,

Thanks for the reply.

Actually the point is that if a person is tapping the messages exchanged between MG and MGC (unaware of the Call processing requirements outlined at MGC), then just by looking at these messages what is the way of differentiating between Call Transfer and Call Conference?

I understand that whenever a MODIFY request with SDP in remote desciptor is recieved (for a Ephemeral termination whose Remote is alreday set) then either Transfer or Conference is taking place, but still not do know which service exactly and how to find out and differentiate.

Between MG2 and MGC (as per the call flows), using Notify event this can be done:
      a)Flash followed by On Hook for Transfer
      b)Flash follwoed by Flash for Conference
But how between MG1 and MGC or MG3 and MGC?

Also, if anyone has the link of latest draft for MEGACO Call Flows, then please share with me the same.

Thanks and Regards,
Nupur Gupta
Software Engineer
Aricent Technologies ltd.



On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Kevin Boyle <kboyle@huawei.com> wrote:
Last I checked, the draft you reference has been expired for 3.5 years.  I
wouldn't put much stock in expired drafts.

As for conference vs. transfer, there are specific call processing
requirements for each outlined by the various regional SDOs.  These call
processing requirements are carried out, and billed for, by the MGC.  Since
the MG should just do what it is commanded by the MGC and has little to no
call processing knowledge, why does it need to know whether a particular
manipulation is any particular feature?

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
nupur gupta
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:50 AM
To: megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] Query regarding Owner IP in SDP field.

Hi All,

Referring to the call flow examples, for Call Transfer and Call Conference,
given in the following:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-megaco-callflows-04

As far as my understanding goes, the only way to differentiate between Call
Transfer and Call Conference at MG1/MG3 is to analyze the Owner IP field in
SDP part of MODIFY message (Step 37 and step 39, Sec 8.1).
If the owner IP received in SDP in Modify is same as previously received
owner IP, then it is Call Conference else it Call Transfer.

How ever, as per RFC3525, the owner IP field is optional and hence not
necessarily present in the SDP part.
So what is other way (and may be more concrete approach) to distinguish
between Call Transfer and Call conference at MG1 and MG3?

Thanks and Regards,
Nupur Gupta,
Software Engineer,
Aricent technologies ltd.
_______________________________________________
Megaco mailing list
Megaco@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco



------=_Part_8544_1934980.1229426146788-- --===============1388323145== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============1388323145==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 16 04:53:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A6C3A6910; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:53:55 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB18D3A6908 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:53:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.301, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FdPMePgalVL4 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from usaga03-in.huawei.com (usaga03-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.220]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752ED3A6917 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (usaga03-in [172.18.4.17]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KBY009NQZTLBU@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:53:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from B90927 (cpe-069-134-162-056.nc.res.rr.com [69.134.162.56]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KBY00J5JZTHDL@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:53:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:53:43 -0500 From: Kevin Boyle In-reply-to: <9ce23d0f0812160315x26501691wab67333a2bfdc6c7@mail.gmail.com> To: 'nupur gupta' , megaco@ietf.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: Aclfb63hN8jveLCLRvCZ0opNqs0AzQACir4Q References: <9ce23d0f0812150249i317804aao82363b20bac2fa96@mail.gmail.com> <69279D83A46947DE9483F228C6AB8AE4@china.huawei.com> <9ce23d0f0812160315x26501691wab67333a2bfdc6c7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Query regarding Owner IP in SDP field. X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1820989299==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1820989299== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_FENgkU1nVBSCTqgg6d+hVQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_FENgkU1nVBSCTqgg6d+hVQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT In North America, per the Telcordia specs, XFER is actually a subfeature of CONF. That is, they are the same feature, and the only way to know the state of the call is to trace from the CONF controller. From the transferor/conferor one can tell what the state is by watching the state transitions and watching the call leg setup/teardown. For the transferees/conferees, the only thing you will be able to tell is whether they are connected or not. Modifying the SDP mid-call can be any number of features, and is not necessarily indicative of CONF/XFER. Transition to fax, for instance, will involve a change in the SDP. As for the call flows document, there was never an updated version once the one you reference expired. I suggest that you acquire the correct feature requirements documents for the region you are interested in and study the feature flows. Once you understand the feature in question, it will be easier to trace through the H.248 messaging to determine what is going on. Kevin _____ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of nupur gupta Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:16 AM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Megaco] Query regarding Owner IP in SDP field. Hi Kevin, Thanks for the reply. Actually the point is that if a person is tapping the messages exchanged between MG and MGC (unaware of the Call processing requirements outlined at MGC), then just by looking at these messages what is the way of differentiating between Call Transfer and Call Conference? I understand that whenever a MODIFY request with SDP in remote desciptor is recieved (for a Ephemeral termination whose Remote is alreday set) then either Transfer or Conference is taking place, but still not do know which service exactly and how to find out and differentiate. Between MG2 and MGC (as per the call flows), using Notify event this can be done: a)Flash followed by On Hook for Transfer b)Flash follwoed by Flash for Conference But how between MG1 and MGC or MG3 and MGC? Also, if anyone has the link of latest draft for MEGACO Call Flows, then please share with me the same. Thanks and Regards, Nupur Gupta Software Engineer Aricent Technologies ltd. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Kevin Boyle wrote: Last I checked, the draft you reference has been expired for 3.5 years. I wouldn't put much stock in expired drafts. As for conference vs. transfer, there are specific call processing requirements for each outlined by the various regional SDOs. These call processing requirements are carried out, and billed for, by the MGC. Since the MG should just do what it is commanded by the MGC and has little to no call processing knowledge, why does it need to know whether a particular manipulation is any particular feature? Kevin -----Original Message----- From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of nupur gupta Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:50 AM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Query regarding Owner IP in SDP field. Hi All, Referring to the call flow examples, for Call Transfer and Call Conference, given in the following: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-megaco-callflows-04 As far as my understanding goes, the only way to differentiate between Call Transfer and Call Conference at MG1/MG3 is to analyze the Owner IP field in SDP part of MODIFY message (Step 37 and step 39, Sec 8.1). If the owner IP received in SDP in Modify is same as previously received owner IP, then it is Call Conference else it Call Transfer. How ever, as per RFC3525, the owner IP field is optional and hence not necessarily present in the SDP part. So what is other way (and may be more concrete approach) to distinguish between Call Transfer and Call conference at MG1 and MG3? Thanks and Regards, Nupur Gupta, Software Engineer, Aricent technologies ltd. _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --Boundary_(ID_FENgkU1nVBSCTqgg6d+hVQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
In North America, per the Telcordia specs, XFER is actually a subfeature of CONF.  That is, they are the same feature, and the only way to know the state of the call is to trace from the CONF controller.  From the transferor/conferor one can tell what the state is by watching the state transitions and watching the call leg setup/teardown.  For the transferees/conferees, the only thing you will be able to tell is whether they are connected or not.
 
Modifying the SDP mid-call can be any number of features, and is not necessarily indicative of CONF/XFER.  Transition to fax, for instance, will involve a change in the SDP.
 
As for the call flows document, there was never an updated version once the one you reference expired.  I suggest that you acquire the correct feature requirements documents for the region you are interested in and study the feature flows.  Once you understand the feature in question, it will be easier to trace through the H.248 messaging to determine what is going on.
 
Kevin

From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of nupur gupta
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:16 AM
To: megaco@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Megaco] Query regarding Owner IP in SDP field.

Hi Kevin,

Thanks for the reply.

Actually the point is that if a person is tapping the messages exchanged between MG and MGC (unaware of the Call processing requirements outlined at MGC), then just by looking at these messages what is the way of differentiating between Call Transfer and Call Conference?

I understand that whenever a MODIFY request with SDP in remote desciptor is recieved (for a Ephemeral termination whose Remote is alreday set) then either Transfer or Conference is taking place, but still not do know which service exactly and how to find out and differentiate.

Between MG2 and MGC (as per the call flows), using Notify event this can be done:
      a)Flash followed by On Hook for Transfer
      b)Flash follwoed by Flash for Conference
But how between MG1 and MGC or MG3 and MGC?

Also, if anyone has the link of latest draft for MEGACO Call Flows, then please share with me the same.

Thanks and Regards,
Nupur Gupta
Software Engineer
Aricent Technologies ltd.



On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Kevin Boyle <kboyle@huawei.com> wrote:
Last I checked, the draft you reference has been expired for 3.5 years.  I
wouldn't put much stock in expired drafts.

As for conference vs. transfer, there are specific call processing
requirements for each outlined by the various regional SDOs.  These call
processing requirements are carried out, and billed for, by the MGC.  Since
the MG should just do what it is commanded by the MGC and has little to no
call processing knowledge, why does it need to know whether a particular
manipulation is any particular feature?

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
nupur gupta
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:50 AM
To: megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] Query regarding Owner IP in SDP field.

Hi All,

Referring to the call flow examples, for Call Transfer and Call Conference,
given in the following:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-megaco-callflows-04

As far as my understanding goes, the only way to differentiate between Call
Transfer and Call Conference at MG1/MG3 is to analyze the Owner IP field in
SDP part of MODIFY message (Step 37 and step 39, Sec 8.1).
If the owner IP received in SDP in Modify is same as previously received
owner IP, then it is Call Conference else it Call Transfer.

How ever, as per RFC3525, the owner IP field is optional and hence not
necessarily present in the SDP part.
So what is other way (and may be more concrete approach) to distinguish
between Call Transfer and Call conference at MG1 and MG3?

Thanks and Regards,
Nupur Gupta,
Software Engineer,
Aricent technologies ltd.
_______________________________________________
Megaco mailing list
Megaco@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco



--Boundary_(ID_FENgkU1nVBSCTqgg6d+hVQ)-- --===============1820989299== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============1820989299==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 16 05:22:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D5F3A6910; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:22:02 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198F33A688A for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:22:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.248 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yWHFafDosYYX for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com (p-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com [195.101.245.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51F93A6910 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ftrdmel3.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.193.117.155]) by ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:21:50 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:21:49 +0100 Message-ID: <2AF8FF7D89242541B12E7A47F6ECB4BE07F61033@ftrdmel3> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [MEGACO] descriptors order and error descriptors thread-index: AclfgUCW+kD4uqMqQ42zZAEq2Dothw== From: To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2008 13:21:50.0949 (UTC) FILETIME=[41677950:01C95F81] Subject: [Megaco] [MEGACO] descriptors order and error descriptors X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2075337315==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2075337315== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C95F81.40F17B09" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95F81.40F17B09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Christian, Kevin, =20 I was looking for information on the order of descriptors in H.248 replies and found the email exchange below. Looking to the latest H.248.1 version, it seems that nothing was added about this issue since then. Is there any reason for that? Are there any plans to address this in an Implementors Guide? =20 Best Regards Bruno =20 =20 =20 =20 ________________________________ * To: Kevin Boyle >=20 * Subject: Re: [Megaco] descriptor order and error descriptors=20 * From: Christian Groves >=20 * Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:31:00 +1100=20 * Cc: megaco at ietf.org , Troy Cauble >=20 * In-reply-to: >=20 * List-help: >=20 * List-id: Media Gateway Control =20 * List-post: >=20 * List-subscribe: >, >=20 * List-unsubscribe: >, >=20 * References: >=20 * Sender: megaco-bounces at ietf.org =20 * User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)=20 ________________________________ Hello Troy and Kevin, I had always assumed that you would reply back in the same descriptor order as what had been requested. I believe this is what we intended. As has been pointed out the ErrorDescriptor concept doesn't work without this assumption. It seems this is another one of those "undocumented" working assumptions in H.248. I guess we should add something explicitely to Section 7.1 and fix the examples. Regards, Christian Kevin Boyle wrote: Wouldn't the command processing stop at the first error? I believe the intent is to enforce order, since that is how the sender can align where errors occurred with the command. Christian may be able to provide more detail on the history of how this was intended to work... Whatever we decide, we should document the fix into the Implementors' Guides for V1 and V2, and fix the text in V3. Kevin=20 =09 =09 -----Original Message----- From: megaco-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Troy Cauble Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:46 PM To: megaco at ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] descriptor order and error descriptors =09 Hi, I recently ran into the exchange below. I think it points out a weakness in the protocol w.r.t. associating descriptor level errors with the appropriate descriptor. I could find nothing in the docs that say a response's descriptors should be in the same order as the request's descriptors. I could find nothing in the docs that say the AuditValue's response's descriptors should be in the same order as the request tokens. In fact, the V2 doc has examples of AuditValue returning descriptors in an order other than the request tokens. I didn't check to see if there are similar issues in the other lists that an errorDescriptor can be used in. It seems likely though. Forcing the order to be maintained and using that for context is ugly, IMO. But it's probably the minimal change solution. The real problem is lack of info in the errorDescriptor. (Relying on the text of the error descriptor field would also be a bad idea, IMO.) -troy =09 =09 =09 MEGACO/1 [135.112.125.109]:55555 Transaction =3D 50007 { Context =3D - {AuditValue =3D aaln/2 { Audit{ Packages, Statistics , DigitMap, Signals, Events, Media }}}} MEGACO/1 [135.112.125.214] Reply =3D 50007 { Context =3D - { AuditValue =3D aaln/2 { Media { TerminationState { Buffer =3D OFF}, Stream =3D 1 { LocalControl { } } }, Events =3D 2222 { al/of }, Error =3D 447 { "Descriptor not legal in this command" }, Error =3D 447 { "Descriptor not legal in this command" }, Packages { g-1, tonegen-1, tonedet-1, dg-1, dd-1, cg-1, cd-1, al-1, ct-1, rtp-1, tdmc-1, ftmd-1, ctyp-1, an-1, bau-1, aau-1, xal-1 }, Error =3D 501 { "Not implemented" } } } } ------_=_NextPart_001_01C95F81.40F17B09 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi = Christian,=20 Kevin,
 
I was = looking for=20 information on the order of descriptors in H.248 replies and found = the=20 email exchange below. Looking to the latest H.248.1 version, it = seems that=20 nothing was added about this issue since then. Is there any reason = for=20 that? Are there any plans to address this in an Implementors=20 Guide?
 
Best=20 Regards
Bruno
 
 
 
 
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Hello Troy and Kevin,

I had = always assumed=20 that you would reply back in the same descriptor order as what had been=20 requested. I believe this is what we intended. As has been pointed out = the=20 ErrorDescriptor concept doesn't work without this = assumption.

It=20 seems this is another one of those "undocumented" working assumptions in = H.248.=20 I guess we should add something explicitely to Section 7.1 and fix the=20 examples.

Regards, Christian

Kevin Boyle =
wrote:

Wouldn't the command =
processing stop at the first error?

I believe the intent is to enforce =
order, since that is how the sender can
align where errors occurred with the command.  Christian may be able to
provide more detail on the history of how this was intended to =
work...

Whatever we decide, we should document the fix into the =
Implementors' Guides
for V1 and V2, and fix the text in V3.

Kevin=20 

-----Original Message-----
From: megaco-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces at ietf.org] On =
Behalf Of
Troy Cauble
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:46 PM
To: megaco at ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] descriptor order and error =
descriptors


Hi,

I =
recently ran into the exchange below.
I think it points out a weakness in the protocol w.r.t. associating
descriptor level errors with the appropriate =
descriptor.

I =
could find nothing in the docs that say a response's descriptors should =
be
in the same order as the request's descriptors.

I could find nothing in the docs =
that say the AuditValue's response's
descriptors should be in the same order as the request tokens.  In fact, =
the
V2 doc has examples of AuditValue returning descriptors in an order =
other
than the request tokens.

I didn't check to see if there are similar issues in =
the other lists that an
errorDescriptor can be used in.  It seems likely =
though.

Forcing the order to be maintained and using that for context =
is ugly, IMO.
But it's probably the minimal change solution.
The real problem is lack of info in the errorDescriptor.
(Relying on the text of the error descriptor field would also be a bad =
idea,
IMO.)

-troy




MEGACO/1 [135.112.125.109]:55555
    Transaction =3D 50007 {
       Context =3D - {AuditValue =3D aaln/2 {
          Audit{ Packages, Statistics , DigitMap, Signals, Events, Media
    }}}}

MEGACO/1 [135.112.125.214]
Reply =3D 50007 {
   Context =3D - {
     AuditValue =3D aaln/2 {
       Media {
         TerminationState {
           Buffer =3D OFF},
         Stream =3D 1 {
           LocalControl {

           }
         }
       },
       Events =3D 2222 {
         al/of
       },
       Error =3D 447 { "Descriptor not legal in this command" },
       Error =3D 447 { "Descriptor not legal in this command" },
       Packages {
         g-1,
         tonegen-1,
         tonedet-1,
         dg-1,
         dd-1,
         cg-1,
         cd-1,
         al-1,
         ct-1,
         rtp-1,
         tdmc-1,
         ftmd-1,
         ctyp-1,
         an-1,
         bau-1,
         aau-1,
         xal-1

       },
       Error =3D 501 { "Not implemented" }
     }
   }
}
------_=_NextPart_001_01C95F81.40F17B09-- --===============2075337315== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============2075337315==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 16 06:22:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AC33A6A0B; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:22:54 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B6A3A6A18 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:22:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vh1JzpPLYNQ3 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from usaga01-in.huawei.com (usaga01-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F2E3A6A0B for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (usaga01-in [172.18.4.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KBZ00HT03XVVB@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from B90927 (cpe-069-134-162-056.nc.res.rr.com [69.134.162.56]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KBZ009DO3XQOB@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:22:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:22:41 -0500 From: Kevin Boyle In-reply-to: <2AF8FF7D89242541B12E7A47F6ECB4BE07F61033@ftrdmel3> To: bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com, megaco@ietf.org, Christian.Groves@nteczone.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: AclfgUCW+kD4uqMqQ42zZAEq2DothwAB86aA References: <2AF8FF7D89242541B12E7A47F6ECB4BE07F61033@ftrdmel3> Subject: Re: [Megaco] [MEGACO] descriptors order and error descriptors X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0949209935==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0949209935== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_KPjzkTX/pXf/kWgS3fUMXA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_KPjzkTX/pXf/kWgS3fUMXA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Bruno! I agree that something should be added, though I haven't been attending SG16 for the last couple of years. I am sure the exclusion of this text is merely an oversight, and is something that may be able to be added when SG16 meets in a few weeks. Kevin _____ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:22 AM To: megaco@ietf.org; Christian.Groves@nteczone.com; kboyle@huawei.com Subject: [Megaco] [MEGACO] descriptors order and error descriptors Hi Christian, Kevin, I was looking for information on the order of descriptors in H.248 replies and found the email exchange below. Looking to the latest H.248.1 version, it seems that nothing was added about this issue since then. Is there any reason for that? Are there any plans to address this in an Implementors Guide? Best Regards Bruno _____ * To: Kevin Boyle < kboyle at nortelnetworks.com> * Subject: Re: [Megaco] descriptor order and error descriptors * From: Christian Groves < christian.groves at ericsson.com> * Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:31:00 +1100 * Cc: megaco at ietf.org, Troy Cauble < troy at bell-labs.com> * In-reply-to: < B258A372CEA20246A363BB86753DB536010B1B28@zrtphxm2> * List-help: < mailto:megaco-request@ietf.org?subject=help> * List-id: Media Gateway Control * List-post: < mailto:megaco@ietf.org> * List-subscribe: < https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco>, < mailto:megaco-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> * List-unsubscribe: < https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco>, < mailto:megaco-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> * References: < B258A372CEA20246A363BB86753DB536010B1B28@zrtphxm2> * Sender: megaco-bounces at ietf.org * User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) _____ Hello Troy and Kevin, I had always assumed that you would reply back in the same descriptor order as what had been requested. I believe this is what we intended. As has been pointed out the ErrorDescriptor concept doesn't work without this assumption. It seems this is another one of those "undocumented" working assumptions in H.248. I guess we should add something explicitely to Section 7.1 and fix the examples. Regards, Christian Kevin Boyle wrote: Wouldn't the command processing stop at the first error? I believe the intent is to enforce order, since that is how the sender can align where errors occurred with the command. Christian may be able to provide more detail on the history of how this was intended to work... Whatever we decide, we should document the fix into the Implementors' Guides for V1 and V2, and fix the text in V3. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: megaco-bounces at ietf.org [ mailto:megaco-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of Troy Cauble Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:46 PM To: megaco at ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] descriptor order and error descriptors Hi, I recently ran into the exchange below. I think it points out a weakness in the protocol w.r.t. associating descriptor level errors with the appropriate descriptor. I could find nothing in the docs that say a response's descriptors should be in the same order as the request's descriptors. I could find nothing in the docs that say the AuditValue's response's descriptors should be in the same order as the request tokens. In fact, the V2 doc has examples of AuditValue returning descriptors in an order other than the request tokens. I didn't check to see if there are similar issues in the other lists that an errorDescriptor can be used in. It seems likely though. Forcing the order to be maintained and using that for context is ugly, IMO. But it's probably the minimal change solution. The real problem is lack of info in the errorDescriptor. (Relying on the text of the error descriptor field would also be a bad idea, IMO.) -troy MEGACO/1 [135.112.125.109]:55555 Transaction = 50007 { Context = - {AuditValue = aaln/2 { Audit{ Packages, Statistics , DigitMap, Signals, Events, Media }}}} MEGACO/1 [135.112.125.214] Reply = 50007 { Context = - { AuditValue = aaln/2 { Media { TerminationState { Buffer = OFF}, Stream = 1 { LocalControl { } } }, Events = 2222 { al/of }, Error = 447 { "Descriptor not legal in this command" }, Error = 447 { "Descriptor not legal in this command" }, Packages { g-1, tonegen-1, tonedet-1, dg-1, dd-1, cg-1, cd-1, al-1, ct-1, rtp-1, tdmc-1, ftmd-1, ctyp-1, an-1, bau-1, aau-1, xal-1 }, Error = 501 { "Not implemented" } } } } --Boundary_(ID_KPjzkTX/pXf/kWgS3fUMXA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi Bruno!
 
I agree that something should be added, though I haven't been attending SG16 for the last couple of years.  I am sure the exclusion of this text is merely an oversight, and is something that may be able to be added when SG16 meets in a few weeks.
 
Kevin

From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:22 AM
To: megaco@ietf.org; Christian.Groves@nteczone.com; kboyle@huawei.com
Subject: [Megaco] [MEGACO] descriptors order and error descriptors

Hi Christian, Kevin,
 
I was looking for information on the order of descriptors in H.248 replies and found the email exchange below. Looking to the latest H.248.1 version, it seems that nothing was added about this issue since then. Is there any reason for that? Are there any plans to address this in an Implementors Guide?
 
Best Regards
Bruno
 

 
Hello Troy and Kevin,

I had always assumed that you would reply back in the same descriptor order as what had been requested. I believe this is what we intended. As has been pointed out the ErrorDescriptor concept doesn't work without this assumption.

It seems this is another one of those "undocumented" working assumptions in H.248. I guess we should add something explicitely to Section 7.1 and fix the examples.

Regards, Christian

Kevin Boyle wrote:

Wouldn't the command processing stop at the first error?

I believe the intent is to enforce order, since that is how the sender can
align where errors occurred with the command.  Christian may be able to
provide more detail on the history of how this was intended to work...

Whatever we decide, we should document the fix into the Implementors' Guides
for V1 and V2, and fix the text in V3.

Kevin 

-----Original Message-----
From: megaco-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Troy Cauble
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:46 PM
To: megaco at ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] descriptor order and error descriptors


Hi,

I recently ran into the exchange below.
I think it points out a weakness in the protocol w.r.t. associating
descriptor level errors with the appropriate descriptor.

I could find nothing in the docs that say a response's descriptors should be
in the same order as the request's descriptors.

I could find nothing in the docs that say the AuditValue's response's
descriptors should be in the same order as the request tokens.  In fact, the
V2 doc has examples of AuditValue returning descriptors in an order other
than the request tokens.

I didn't check to see if there are similar issues in the other lists that an
errorDescriptor can be used in.  It seems likely though.

Forcing the order to be maintained and using that for context is ugly, IMO.
But it's probably the minimal change solution.
The real problem is lack of info in the errorDescriptor.
(Relying on the text of the error descriptor field would also be a bad idea,
IMO.)

-troy




MEGACO/1 [135.112.125.109]:55555
    Transaction = 50007 {
       Context = - {AuditValue = aaln/2 {
          Audit{ Packages, Statistics , DigitMap, Signals, Events, Media
    }}}}

MEGACO/1 [135.112.125.214]
Reply = 50007 {
   Context = - {
     AuditValue = aaln/2 {
       Media {
         TerminationState {
           Buffer = OFF},
         Stream = 1 {
           LocalControl {

           }
         }
       },
       Events = 2222 {
         al/of
       },
       Error = 447 { "Descriptor not legal in this command" },
       Error = 447 { "Descriptor not legal in this command" },
       Packages {
         g-1,
         tonegen-1,
         tonedet-1,
         dg-1,
         dd-1,
         cg-1,
         cd-1,
         al-1,
         ct-1,
         rtp-1,
         tdmc-1,
         ftmd-1,
         ctyp-1,
         an-1,
         bau-1,
         aau-1,
         xal-1

       },
       Error = 501 { "Not implemented" }
     }
   }
}
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Iranian guardsCommission, the agency that overses the price of postage From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 16 14:42:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B27628C156; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:42:33 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C2728C156 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:42:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.861 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.861 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.744, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ovmybcmjMlrs for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.214.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FEE28C11B for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:42:30 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AscAAPO6R0l20NxH/2dsb2JhbAAIvUpXkTaCfw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,232,1228051800"; d="scan'208";a="251218926" Received: from ppp118-208-220-71.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.0.5]) ([118.208.220.71]) by ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2008 09:12:17 +1030 Message-ID: <49482EC5.2040403@nteczone.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:42:13 +1100 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com References: <2AF8FF7D89242541B12E7A47F6ECB4BE07F61033@ftrdmel3> In-Reply-To: <2AF8FF7D89242541B12E7A47F6ECB4BE07F61033@ftrdmel3> Cc: megaco@ietf.org, kboyle@huawei.com Subject: Re: [Megaco] [MEGACO] descriptors order and error descriptors X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hello Bruno, As Kevin said it slipped under the radar. I always try to input an IG update contribution to each Q.3/16 meeting with items identified on the megaco list. I'll make sure it gets added to the next one. Thanks. Regards, Christian bruno.chatras@orange-ftgroup.com wrote: > Hi Christian, Kevin, > > I was looking for information on the order of descriptors in H.248 > replies and found the email exchange below. Looking to the latest > H.248.1 version, it seems that nothing was added about this issue > since then. Is there any reason for that? Are there any plans to > address this in an Implementors Guide? > > Best Regards > Bruno > > > ** > ** > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > * /To/: Kevin Boyle > > * /Subject/: Re: [Megaco] descriptor order and error descriptors > * /From/: Christian Groves > > * /Date/: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:31:00 +1100 > * /Cc/: megaco at ietf.org , Troy > Cauble > > * /In-reply-to/: > > > > * /List-help/: > * /List-id/: Media Gateway Control > * /List-post/: > * /List-subscribe/: > , > > * /List-unsubscribe/: > , > > * /References/: > > > * /Sender/: megaco-bounces at ietf.org > > * /User-agent/: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; > rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hello Troy and Kevin, > > I had always assumed that you would reply back in the same descriptor > order as what had been requested. I believe this is what we intended. > As has been pointed out the ErrorDescriptor concept doesn't work > without this assumption. > > It seems this is another one of those "undocumented" working > assumptions in H.248. I guess we should add something explicitely to > Section 7.1 and fix the examples. > > Regards, Christian > > Kevin Boyle wrote: > > Wouldn't the command processing stop at the first error? > > > I believe the intent is to enforce order, since that is how the sender can > align where errors occurred with the command. Christian may be able to > provide more detail on the history of how this was intended to work... > > > Whatever we decide, we should document the fix into the Implementors' Guides > for V1 and V2, and fix the text in V3. > > > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: megaco-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Troy Cauble > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:46 PM > To: megaco at ietf.org > Subject: [Megaco] descriptor order and error descriptors > > > > Hi, > > > I recently ran into the exchange below. > I think it points out a weakness in the protocol w.r.t. associating > descriptor level errors with the appropriate descriptor. > > > I could find nothing in the docs that say a response's descriptors should be > in the same order as the request's descriptors. > > > I could find nothing in the docs that say the AuditValue's response's > descriptors should be in the same order as the request tokens. In fact, the > V2 doc has examples of AuditValue returning descriptors in an order other > than the request tokens. > > > I didn't check to see if there are similar issues in the other lists that an > errorDescriptor can be used in. It seems likely though. > > > Forcing the order to be maintained and using that for context is ugly, IMO. > But it's probably the minimal change solution. > The real problem is lack of info in the errorDescriptor. > (Relying on the text of the error descriptor field would also be a bad idea, > IMO.) > > > -troy > > > > > > MEGACO/1 [135.112.125.109]:55555 > Transaction = 50007 { > Context = - {AuditValue = aaln/2 { > Audit{ Packages, Statistics , DigitMap, Signals, Events, Media > }}}} > > > MEGACO/1 [135.112.125.214] > Reply = 50007 { > Context = - { > AuditValue = aaln/2 { > Media { > TerminationState { > Buffer = OFF}, > Stream = 1 { > LocalControl { > > > } > } > }, > Events = 2222 { > al/of > }, > Error = 447 { "Descriptor not legal in this command" }, > Error = 447 { "Descriptor not legal in this command" }, > Packages { > g-1, > tonegen-1, > tonedet-1, > dg-1, > dd-1, > cg-1, > cd-1, > al-1, > ct-1, > rtp-1, > tdmc-1, > ftmd-1, > ctyp-1, > an-1, > bau-1, > aau-1, > xal-1 > > > }, > Error = 501 { "Not implemented" } > } > } > } > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From nane@allaboutuptime.net Wed Dec 17 15:06:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F793A6AF1 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:06:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -19.416 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-19.416 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=2.219, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NZwABPGd-1jS for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:06:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from 220-141-49-187.dynamic.hinet.net (220-141-49-187.dynamic.hinet.net [220.141.49.187]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B744E3A6768 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:06:49 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Delivery Status Notification From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081217230650.B744E3A6768@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:06:49 -0800 (PST) Having trouble viewing this email? 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