From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 2 00:20:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED3D3A6B3B; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:20:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68573A6B7B for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:17:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.702 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_12=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6, MIME_ASCII0=1.5] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cIT0OptMzgYe for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tparelay1.telrad.com (tparelay1.telrad.com [62.90.58.240]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6829728C0EF for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tparelay1.telrad.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tparelay1.telrad.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m827D9Ud031254 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:13:09 +0300 Received: from TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il ([141.226.76.177]) by tparelay1.telrad.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id m827D81u031251 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:13:08 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:18:28 +0300 Message-ID: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121BD3@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Megaco message Thread-Index: AckMy/1pYNBheTCURdORVQxl3JZdjQ== From: "Tamar Nemet" To: Cc: Anat Garber Subject: [Megaco] Megaco message X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1216671541==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1216671541== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCC.18DA01DC" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCC.18DA01DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 As much as I know the following Megaco command is illegal, am I correct ? =20 !/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 = T=3D9608{C=3D680399{MF=3Deph_2291{M{O{MO=3DSR},L{v=3D0 c=3DIN IP4 $ m=3Daudio $ RTP/AVP 8 a=3Dptime:20 },R{v=3D0 o=3D- 1845908136 0 IN IP4 10.20.21.104 s=3D- c=3DIN IP4 10.20.21.104 t=3D0 0 m=3Daudio 4050 RTP/AVP 8 . 200 62305 OK }}}}} =20 It looks that in the end of the remote SDP there is reply for MGCP message and as much as I know this is wrong message, is it true ? =20 Thanks for your help, Tamar=20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCC.18DA01DC Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hi,
 
As much as I = know the=20 following Megaco command is illegal, am I correct ?
 
!/1=20 [10.100.4.28]:2944=20 T=3D9608{C=3D680399{MF=3Deph_2291{M{O{MO=3DSR},L{v=3D0
  &nb= sp; c=3DIN IP4=20 $
    m=3Daudio $ RTP/AVP 8
   =20 a=3Dptime:20
    },R{v=3D0
    o=3D- = 1845908136 0=20 IN IP4 10.20.21.104
    s=3D-
    = c=3DIN IP4=20 10.20.21.104
    t=3D0 0
    = m=3Daudio 4050=20 RTP/AVP 8
    .
    200 62305=20 OK
    }}}}}
 
   It=20 looks that in the end of the remote SDP there is reply for MGCP message = and as=20 much as I know this is wrong message, is it true ?
 
   Thanks=20 for your help,
   Tamar
 
  =
=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCC.18DA01DC-- --===============1216671541== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============1216671541==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 2 00:27:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB1E3A6B1E; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:27:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C5C3A6B1E for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:27:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.461 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.461 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_12=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1TRu3CauuWak for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.teledata-networks.com (mail.teledata-networks.com [194.90.152.129]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 824D93A6888 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tndcmail.Teledata.Local ([10.1.100.59]) by eSafe SMTP Relay 1220256266; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:24:45 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:28:06 +0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121BD3@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Megaco message thread-index: AckMy/1pYNBheTCURdORVQxl3JZdjQAAUwgg From: "Raphael Tryster" To: "Tamar Nemet" , X-ESAFE-STATUS: Mail clean X-ESAFE-DETAILS: Cc: Anat Garber Subject: Re: [Megaco] Megaco message X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0845791358==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0845791358== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCD.7152DA13" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCD.7152DA13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with you. There may be a place in the market for products that support both Megaco and MGCP in the same load, but I don't think this is the way to do it! =20 Raphael ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tamar Nemet Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:18 AM To: megaco@ietf.org Cc: Anat Garber Subject: [Megaco] Megaco message Hi, =20 As much as I know the following Megaco command is illegal, am I correct ? =20 !/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 T=3D9608{C=3D680399{MF=3Deph_2291{M{O{MO=3DSR},L{v= =3D0 c=3DIN IP4 $ m=3Daudio $ RTP/AVP 8 a=3Dptime:20 },R{v=3D0 o=3D- 1845908136 0 IN IP4 10.20.21.104 s=3D- c=3DIN IP4 10.20.21.104 t=3D0 0 m=3Daudio 4050 RTP/AVP 8 . 200 62305 OK }}}}} =20 It looks that in the end of the remote SDP there is reply for MGCP message and as much as I know this is wrong message, is it true ? =20 Thanks for your help, Tamar=20 =20 =20 *************************************************************************= ********************* IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidentia= l. They are intended for the=20 named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manage= r or the sender immediately and do=20 not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. *** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals, and malicious content.= *** *************************************************************************= ********************* ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCD.7152DA13 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
I=20 agree with you.  There may be a place in the market for products tha= t=20 support both Megaco and MGCP in the same load, but I don't think this is = the way=20 to do it!
 
Raphael


From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org=20 [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tamar Nemet
Se= nt:=20 Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:18 AM
To: megaco@ietf.org
= Cc:=20 Anat Garber
Subject: [Megaco] Megaco message

Hi,
&n= bsp;
As much as I kno= w the=20 following Megaco command is illegal, am I correct ?
&n= bsp;
!/1=20 [10.100.4.28]:2944=20 T=3D9608{C=3D680399{MF=3Deph_2291{M{O{MO=3DSR},L{v=3D0
  &nb= sp; c=3DIN IP4=20 $
    m=3Daudio $ RTP/AVP 8
   =20 a=3Dptime:20
    },R{v=3D0
    o=3D- = 1845908136 0=20 IN IP4 10.20.21.104
    s=3D-
    c=3D= IN IP4=20 10.20.21.104
    t=3D0 0
    m=3Daudi= o 4050=20 RTP/AVP 8
    .
    200 62305=20 OK
    }}}}}
 
 &= nbsp; It=20 looks that in the end of the remote SDP there is reply for MGCP message a= nd as=20 much as I know this is wrong message, is it true ?
 
 &= nbsp; Thanks=20 for your help,
   Tamar
 
 =20

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCD.7152DA13-- --===============0845791358== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============0845791358==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 2 00:28:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469BB28C0EC; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:28:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF4A28C0E2 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:28:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.506 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.454, BAYES_20=-0.74, FRT_SOMA2=2.199, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_ASCII0=1.5] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oi2F3cZACZuu for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tparelay1.telrad.com (tparelay1.telrad.com [62.90.58.240]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB5828C0F2 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tparelay1.telrad.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tparelay1.telrad.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m827Nf6P000661 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:23:41 +0300 Received: from TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il ([141.226.76.177]) by tparelay1.telrad.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id m827NfHt000658 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:23:41 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:29:01 +0300 Message-ID: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121BD5@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Observed events question Thread-Index: AckMzXWUEir47LcRS7ShVs0tfrNokw== From: "Tamar Nemet" To: Cc: Michael Putter Subject: [Megaco] Observed events question X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1569780812==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1569780812== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCD.92073C38" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCD.92073C38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 Please look at the following megaco messages: =20 =20 MGC -> MG: T=3D22127{C=3D3983{S=3De1/05/5{AT{}}},C=3D-{MF=3De1/05/5{E=3D8591{bcas/sz= ,bcas/casf, icas/casf},SG{icas/rlg},M{O{MO=3DIN}}}}} =20 MG -> MGC: = T=3D22129{C=3D*{S=3De1/05/5{AT{}}},C=3D-{MF=3De1/05/5{SG,M{O{MO=3DIN}}}}}= =20 MG -> MGC: = T=3D233{C=3D-{N=3DE1/05/5{OE=3D8591{20080811T00550054:BCAS/SZ}}}} MGC reply to MG: P=3D233{C=3D-{N=3De1/05/5{ER=3D410{"Unknown Request = ID"}}}}=20 =20 In the second message there is Subtract command that delete all the signals (SG) but there is nothing regarding requested events, so the MG still wait for the requested events from the first message. =20 When the MG send Notify with the observed event (in the third message) , the MGC answer with Unknown Request ID.=20 =20 We don't understand why this is an Unknown Request ID, this is the last one that the MGC asked and nothing canceled this request ID. =20 Can you explain please ? =20 Thanks, Tamar ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCD.92073C38 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hi,
 
Please = look at the=20 following megaco messages:
 
 
MGC -> MG:=20 T=3D22127{C=3D3983{S=3De1/05/5{AT{}}},C=3D-{MF=3De1/05/5{E=3D8591{bcas/sz= ,bcas/casf,icas/casf},SG{icas/rlg},M{O{MO=3DIN}}}}}
 
MG -> MGC:=20 T=3D22129{C=3D*{S=3De1/05/5{AT{}}},C=3D-{MF=3De1/05/5{SG,M{O{MO=3DIN}}}}}=
 
MG -> MGC:=20 T=3D233{C=3D-{N=3DE1/05/5{OE=3D8591{20080811T00550054:BCAS/SZ}}}}
MGC = reply to MG:=20 P=3D233{C=3D-{N=3De1/05/5{ER=3D410{"Unknown Request ID"}}}} =
 
In the = second=20 message there is Subtract command that delete all the signals (SG) but = there is=20 nothing regarding requested events, so the MG still wait for the = requested=20 events from the first message.
 
When = the MG send=20 Notify with the observed event (in the third message) , the MGC answer = with=20 Unknown Request ID.
 
We = don't understand=20 why this is an Unknown Request ID, this is the last one that the MGC = asked and=20 nothing canceled this request ID.
 
Can = you explain=20 please ?
 
Thanks,
Tamar
=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C90CCD.92073C38-- --===============1569780812== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============1569780812==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 2 17:28:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4ADA3A684A; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46FD3A684A for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:28:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.739 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.739 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JyAFhlBZSbTH for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp128.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp128.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.33]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D6DFE3A6832 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 98539 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2008 00:28:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:Content-Type; b=PjDvIRpmCTeCaASV2bo3nPAw1PimTohjsMLfxCmg8x7A1faKU3qKX96J3MJN2iyFhX5F5Yc3LDr7jF211mgrTIaOMDFmX4604qit8zHRDzcQc02hpxkr2UAQ7G7s8lFnKSwqwC0mLlfl+vEZe1AVwvqXy12VJwiAtK7z+JmPW9o= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.103?) (tom.taylor@rogers.com@62.167.71.113 with plain) by smtp128.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2008 00:28:48 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1Cr_eN8VM1kyyzfkH0pNuwd6_2_IDJfn_bfN_soRvLi_l.VcA7CH7Fkxw6klQOgTeg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <48BDDA41.5090007@rogers.com> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:28:49 +0200 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: megaco ietf Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000208060103070109090306" Cc: BEHAR ALDANA RONALD Subject: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000208060103070109090306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For some reason the following message was bounced from the list. I am forwarding it on, copy the originator. Tom Taylor > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor > From: > "BEHAR ALDANA RONALD" > Date: > Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:56:22 +0200 > To: > > > To: > > > > Hi to all > > Is IP 0.0.0.0 valid as a connection information in a remote descriptor. > > c= IN IP4 0.0.0.0 > > regards > > CTAC Engineer > Madrid/Spain > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Uncaught bounce notification Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:56:24 -0700 From: mailman-bounces@ietf.org To: megaco-owner@ietf.org The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). 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Hi to all

Is IP 0.0.0.0 valid as a connection = information in a remote descriptor.

c=3D IN IP4 0.0.0.0

regards

CTAC Engineer
Madrid/Spain

------_=_NextPart_001_01C90CE2.27DBC52D-- --------------000208060103070109090306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --------------000208060103070109090306-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 2 22:08:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A533A6BE9; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 22:08:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1108E3A6BE9 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 22:08:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FRT_SOMA2=2.199, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Eck7P4kIlPRR for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 22:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (jaguar.aricent.com [121.241.96.11]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259903A6BD8 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 22:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jaguar.aricent.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8355sjv000504 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:35:54 +0530 Received: from GUREXHT02.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM (gurexht02.asian.ad.aricent.com [10.203.171.138]) by jaguar.aricent.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8355qSC000466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=FAIL); Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:35:52 +0530 Received: from GUREXMB01.asian.ad.aricent.com ([10.203.171.130]) by GUREXHT02.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM ([10.203.171.138]) with mapi; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:38:43 +0530 From: Deepak Bissa To: Tamar Nemet , "megaco@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:38:42 +0530 Thread-Topic: Observed events question Thread-Index: AckMzXWUEir47LcRS7ShVs0tfrNokwAtCpuQ Message-ID: <31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E1189513148EA218@GUREXMB01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM> References: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121BD5@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> In-Reply-To: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121BD5@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Michael Putter Subject: Re: [Megaco] Observed events question X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2007145415==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org --===============2007145415== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E1189513148EA218GUREXMB01ASIA_" --_000_31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E1189513148EA218GUREXMB01ASIA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, There is minor correction in messages shown in red below. I would like to know that what is MG's reply to the first two messages. Ideally, MG shall reply back successfully to first message and for the seco= nd message it should send an error reply. The reason being that termination has been already moved to NULL context by= the effect of subtract command in first message. Thus, for second message, MG will not be able to find the termination in an= y Non-Null context and should send error as 435, "Termination ID is not in = specified Context". But if MG replied successfully to subtract command in second message then M= GC shall assume that all descriptors for the termination have been reset to= default values (Refer H.248.1 (V3) section 7.2.3). MGC will not be able to match the request ID as reported by MG in such a co= ndition. With regards, Deepak Bissa ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Tamar Nemet Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 12:59 PM To: megaco@ietf.org Cc: Michael Putter Subject: [Megaco] Observed events question Hi, Please look at the following megaco messages: MGC -> MG: T=3D22127{C=3D3983{S=3De1/05/5{AT{}}},C=3D-{MF=3De1/05/5{E=3D859= 1{bcas/sz,bcas/casf,icas/casf},SG{icas/rlg},M{O{MO=3DIN}}}}} MGC -> MG: T=3D22129{C=3D*{S=3De1/05/5{AT{}}},C=3D-{MF=3De1/05/5{SG,M{O{MO= =3DIN}}}}} MG -> MGC: T=3D233{C=3D-{N=3DE1/05/5{OE=3D8591{20080811T00550054:BCAS/SZ}}}= } MGC reply to MG: P=3D233{C=3D-{N=3De1/05/5{ER=3D410{"Unknown Request ID"}}}= } In the second message there is Subtract command that delete all the signals= (SG) but there is nothing regarding requested events, so the MG still wait= for the requested events from the first message. When the MG send Notify with the observed event (in the third message) , th= e MGC answer with Unknown Request ID. We don't understand why this is an Unknown Request ID, this is the last one= that the MGC asked and nothing canceled this request ID. Can you explain please ? Thanks, Tamar ________________________________ "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solely = for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privi= leged or confidential information and should not be circulated or used for = any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have received this m= essage in error,please notify the originator immediately. If you are not th= e intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited fro= m using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of this message. Ari= cent accepts no responsibility forloss or damage arising from the use of th= e information transmitted by this email including damage from virus." --_000_31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E1189513148EA218GUREXMB01ASIA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Hello,

There is minor correction in messages = shown in red below.

I would like to know that what is MG&#= 8217;s reply to the first two messages.

 

Ideally, MG shall reply back successfu= lly to first message and for the second message it should send an error rep= ly.

The reason being that termination has = been already moved to NULL context by the effect of subtract command in fir= st message.

Thus, for second message, MG will not = be able to find the termination in any Non-Null context and should send err= or as 435, “Termination ID is not in specified Context”.

 

But if MG replied successfully to subt= ract command in second message then MGC shall assume that all descriptors f= or the termination have been reset to default values (Refer H.248.1 (V3) section 7.2.3).

MGC will not be able to match the requ= est ID as reported by MG in such a condition.

 

 

With regards,

Deepak Bissa


From: mega= co-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tamar Nemet
Sent: Tuesday, September 02,= 2008 12:59 PM
To: megaco@ietf.org
Cc: Michael Putter
Subject: [Megaco] Observed e= vents question

 

Hi,

 

Please look at the following megaco messages:

 

 

MGC -> MG: T=3D22127{C=3D3983{S=3De1/05/5{AT{}}},C=3D= -{MF=3De1/05/5{E=3D8591{bcas/sz,bcas/casf,icas/casf},SG{icas/rlg},M{O{MO=3D= IN}}}}}

 

MGC -> MG: T=3D22129{C=3D*{S=3De1/05/5{AT{}}},C=3D-{M= F=3De1/05/5{SG,M{O{MO=3DIN}}}}}

 

MG -> MGC: T=3D233{C=3D-{N=3DE1/05/5{OE=3D8591{200808= 11T00550054:BCAS/SZ}}}}
MGC reply to MG: P=3D233{C=3D-{N=3De1/05/5{ER=3D410{"Unknown Request I= D"}}}}

 

In the second message there is Subtract command that del= ete all the signals (SG) but there is nothing regarding requested events, s= o the MG still wait for the requested events from the first message.

 

When the MG send Notify with the observed event (in the = third message) , the MGC answer with Unknown Request ID.

 

We don't understand why this is an Unknown Request ID, t= his is the last one that the MGC asked and nothing canceled this request ID= .

 

Can you explain please ?

 

Thanks,

Tamar



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Receiving c=IN IP4 0.0.0.0 in remote descriptor can inform the receiving party that the call has been put on hold by the remote party. With Regards, Divij Agarwal Senior Software Engineer A R I C E N T -----Original Message----- From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tom Taylor Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:59 AM To: megaco ietf Cc: BEHAR ALDANA RONALD Subject: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor For some reason the following message was bounced from the list. I am forwarding it on, copy the originator. Tom Taylor > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor > From: > "BEHAR ALDANA RONALD" > Date: > Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:56:22 +0200 > To: > > > To: > > > > Hi to all > > Is IP 0.0.0.0 valid as a connection information in a remote descriptor. > > c= IN IP4 0.0.0.0 > > regards > > CTAC Engineer > Madrid/Spain > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Uncaught bounce notification Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:56:24 -0700 From: mailman-bounces@ietf.org To: megaco-owner@ietf.org The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messages to the list administrator(s). 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Aricent accepts no responsibility forloss or damage arising from the use of the information transmitted by this email including damage from virus." _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Wed Sep 3 07:07:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9E53A6BD9; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 07:07:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCE63A6BD9 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 07:07:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.349 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.349 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.700, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_12=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6ZF5CHcQVNSz for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 07:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail5.alcatel.fr (smail5.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3123A6BB4 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 07:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRVELSBHS07.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs07.ad2.ad.alcatel.com [155.132.6.79]) by smail5.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id m83E7A2a010368; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:07:10 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSMBS33.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.16]) by FRVELSBHS07.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:07:10 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:06:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87F6BC6EF55C1942BABCB8E1AA931FB50128747D@FRMRSSMBS33.ad2.ad.alcatel.com> In-Reply-To: <31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E1189513148EA880@GUREXMB01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor Thread-Index: AckNvAd8nFDxVwwWQ9mCM9aDsqdQmgABHL4wAANVTJA= References: <48BDDA41.5090007@rogers.com> <31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E1189513148EA880@GUREXMB01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM> From: "BEHAR ALDANA RONALD" To: "Divij Agarwal" , "Tom Taylor" , "megaco ietf" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2008 14:07:10.0391 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B5B6470:01C90DCE] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.13 Subject: Re: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thanks for the comment This type of action was established by SIP in RFC 2543 and continues to be = used to provide compatibility with this RFC, but Megaco has other descripto= rs to handle RTP flows. Is this connection information valid in Megaco, my = question is because it's not a host address. regards = -----Mensaje original----- De: Divij Agarwal [mailto:Divij.Agarwal@aricent.com] = Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 03 de septiembre de 2008 14:32 Para: Tom Taylor; megaco ietf CC: BEHAR ALDANA RONALD Asunto: RE: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor Setting IP in c line to 0.0.0.0 is one of the ways of putting call on Hold. Receiving c=3DIN IP4 0.0.0.0 in remote descriptor can inform the receiving = party that the call has been put on hold by the remote party. With Regards, Divij Agarwal Senior Software Engineer A R I C E N T -----Original Message----- From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Tom Taylor Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:59 AM To: megaco ietf Cc: BEHAR ALDANA RONALD Subject: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor For some reason the following message was bounced from the list. I am forwa= rding it on, copy the originator. Tom Taylor > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > Subject: > IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor > From: > "BEHAR ALDANA RONALD" > Date: > Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:56:22 +0200 > To: > > > To: > > > > Hi to all > > Is IP 0.0.0.0 valid as a connection information in a remote descriptor. > > c=3D IN IP4 0.0.0.0 > > regards > > CTAC Engineer > Madrid/Spain > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Uncaught bounce notification Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:56:24 -0700 From: mailman-bounces@ietf.org To: megaco-owner@ietf.org The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce format= was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. Th= is mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce message= s to the list administrator(s). For more information see: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admin/megaco/bounce "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solely = for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privi= leged or confidential information and should not be circulated or used for = any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have received this m= essage in error,please notify the originator immediately. If you are not th= e intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited fro= m using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of this message. Ari= cent accepts no responsibility forloss or damage arising from the use of th= e information transmitted by this email including damage from virus." _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Wed Sep 3 16:57:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36DD3A6C41; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:57:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753DF3A6C41 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:57:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.405 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.405 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_12=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9e2LUZldjIHg for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.214.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FDF3A6AB6 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:57:45 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4AAFy+vkg7p1bo/2dsb2JhbAAIt2qBZw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,320,1217773800"; d="scan'208";a="186333041" Received: from ppp59-167-86-232.lns2.mel6.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.0.4]) ([59.167.86.232]) by ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 04 Sep 2008 09:27:45 +0930 Message-ID: <48BF2478.1050705@nteczone.com> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:57:44 +1000 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BEHAR ALDANA RONALD References: <48BDDA41.5090007@rogers.com> <31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E1189513148EA880@GUREXMB01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM> <87F6BC6EF55C1942BABCB8E1AA931FB50128747D@FRMRSSMBS33.ad2.ad.alcatel.com> In-Reply-To: <87F6BC6EF55C1942BABCB8E1AA931FB50128747D@FRMRSSMBS33.ad2.ad.alcatel.com> Cc: Divij Agarwal , megaco ietf Subject: Re: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hello, H.248/Megaco makes no assumption about the validity of setting the IP in = the c line to 0.0.0.0. If used by SIP/SDP to perform a particular = function then one should look at how that function is performed in = H.248. For hold moving the termination to a separate context or setting = the stream mode may be a more precise way of implementing hold rather = than relying of the MG to correctly interpret what 0.0.0.0 means. A MG = doesn't implement SIP thus its not compliant to the procedures RFC2543. Regards, Christian BEHAR ALDANA RONALD wrote: > Thanks for the comment > > This type of action was established by SIP in RFC 2543 and continues to b= e used to provide compatibility with this RFC, but Megaco has other descrip= tors to handle RTP flows. Is this connection information valid in Megaco, m= y question is because it's not a host address. > > regards = > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Divij Agarwal [mailto:Divij.Agarwal@aricent.com] = > Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 03 de septiembre de 2008 14:32 > Para: Tom Taylor; megaco ietf > CC: BEHAR ALDANA RONALD > Asunto: RE: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor > > > Setting IP in c line to 0.0.0.0 is one of the ways of putting call on Hol= d. > > Receiving c=3DIN IP4 0.0.0.0 in remote descriptor can inform the receivin= g party that the call has been put on hold by the remote party. > > > With Regards, > > Divij Agarwal > Senior Software Engineer > A R I C E N T > > > -----Original Message----- > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Tom Taylor > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:59 AM > To: megaco ietf > Cc: BEHAR ALDANA RONALD > Subject: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor > > For some reason the following message was bounced from the list. I am for= warding it on, copy the originator. > > Tom Taylor > > = >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> >> Subject: >> IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor >> From: >> "BEHAR ALDANA RONALD" >> Date: >> Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:56:22 +0200 >> To: >> >> >> To: >> >> >> >> Hi to all >> >> Is IP 0.0.0.0 valid as a connection information in a remote descriptor. >> >> c=3D IN IP4 0.0.0.0 >> >> regards >> >> CTAC Engineer >> Madrid/Spain >> >> >> = > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Uncaught bounce notification > Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:56:24 -0700 > From: mailman-bounces@ietf.org > To: megaco-owner@ietf.org > > The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce form= at was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. = This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messa= ges to the list administrator(s). > > For more information see: > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admin/megaco/bounce > > > > "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solel= y for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain pri= vileged or confidential information and should not be circulated or used fo= r any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have received this= message in error,please notify the originator immediately. If you are not = the intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited f= rom using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of this message. A= ricent accepts no responsibility forloss or damage arising from the use of = the information transmitted by this email including damage from virus." > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Wed Sep 3 17:00:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496EC3A6C85; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:00:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE533A6C85 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:00:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.705 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.705 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.700, BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HTXBS08LNcj2 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.214.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14C63A6C41 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:00:33 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4AAN/Bvkg7p1bo/2dsb2JhbAAIt12BZw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.32,320,1217773800"; d="scan'208";a="186334571" Received: from ppp59-167-86-232.lns2.mel6.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.0.4]) ([59.167.86.232]) by ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 04 Sep 2008 09:30:11 +0930 Message-ID: <48BF2506.2010703@nteczone.com> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:00:06 +1000 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: megaco ietf Subject: [Megaco] Results of Q.3/16 Media Control Protocols Meeting X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hello all, Q.3/16 has recently concluded its meeting on H.248/Megaco related issues. The documents for this meeting can be found at: http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2005-2008/0808_Gen/ The meeting report can be found at: http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2005-2008/0808_Gen/TD-15a.zip Regards, Christian _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thu Sep 4 00:48:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2433F3A6D4F; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:48:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76503A6D06 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:48:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.350, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_12=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qxGj54RfTH2T for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail5.alcatel.fr (smail5.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F6B3A6B7D for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRVELSBHS05.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs05.ad2.ad.alcatel.com [155.132.6.77]) by smail5.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id m847mPHT004914; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:48:35 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSMBS33.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.16]) by FRVELSBHS05.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:48:35 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:48:33 +0200 Message-ID: <87F6BC6EF55C1942BABCB8E1AA931FB50128769C@FRMRSSMBS33.ad2.ad.alcatel.com> In-Reply-To: <48BF2478.1050705@nteczone.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor Thread-Index: AckOIOUkHMgDm4J/TC6ag4Cmtq9+wgAQZikg References: <48BDDA41.5090007@rogers.com> <31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E1189513148EA880@GUREXMB01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM> <87F6BC6EF55C1942BABCB8E1AA931FB50128747D@FRMRSSMBS33.ad2.ad.alcatel.com> <48BF2478.1050705@nteczone.com> From: "BEHAR ALDANA RONALD" To: "Christian Groves" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2008 07:48:35.0346 (UTC) FILETIME=[A28C5720:01C90E62] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.13 Cc: Divij Agarwal , megaco ietf Subject: Re: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thank you for the comments. = -----Mensaje original----- De: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com] = Enviado el: jueves, 04 de septiembre de 2008 1:58 Para: BEHAR ALDANA RONALD CC: Divij Agarwal; Tom Taylor; megaco ietf Asunto: Re: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor Hello, H.248/Megaco makes no assumption about the validity of setting the IP in th= e c line to 0.0.0.0. If used by SIP/SDP to perform a particular function th= en one should look at how that function is performed in H.248. For hold mov= ing the termination to a separate context or setting the stream mode may be= a more precise way of implementing hold rather than relying of the MG to c= orrectly interpret what 0.0.0.0 means. A MG doesn't implement SIP thus its = not compliant to the procedures RFC2543. Regards, Christian BEHAR ALDANA RONALD wrote: > Thanks for the comment > > This type of action was established by SIP in RFC 2543 and continues to b= e used to provide compatibility with this RFC, but Megaco has other descrip= tors to handle RTP flows. Is this connection information valid in Megaco, m= y question is because it's not a host address. > > regards > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Divij Agarwal [mailto:Divij.Agarwal@aricent.com] > Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 03 de septiembre de 2008 14:32 > Para: Tom Taylor; megaco ietf > CC: BEHAR ALDANA RONALD > Asunto: RE: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor > > > Setting IP in c line to 0.0.0.0 is one of the ways of putting call on Hol= d. > > Receiving c=3DIN IP4 0.0.0.0 in remote descriptor can inform the receivin= g party that the call has been put on hold by the remote party. > > > With Regards, > > Divij Agarwal > Senior Software Engineer > A R I C E N T > > > -----Original Message----- > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On = > Behalf Of Tom Taylor > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:59 AM > To: megaco ietf > Cc: BEHAR ALDANA RONALD > Subject: [Megaco] IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor > > For some reason the following message was bounced from the list. I am for= warding it on, copy the originator. > > Tom Taylor > > = >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> -- >> >> Subject: >> IP 0.0.0.0 In remote descriptor >> From: >> "BEHAR ALDANA RONALD" >> Date: >> Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:56:22 +0200 >> To: >> >> >> To: >> >> >> >> Hi to all >> >> Is IP 0.0.0.0 valid as a connection information in a remote descriptor. >> >> c=3D IN IP4 0.0.0.0 >> >> regards >> >> CTAC Engineer >> Madrid/Spain >> >> >> = > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Uncaught bounce notification > Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:56:24 -0700 > From: mailman-bounces@ietf.org > To: megaco-owner@ietf.org > > The attached message was received as a bounce, but either the bounce form= at was not recognized, or no member addresses could be extracted from it. = This mailing list has been configured to send all unrecognized bounce messa= ges to the list administrator(s). > > For more information see: > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/admin/megaco/bounce > > > > "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solel= y for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hi Albrecht, After going through this thread will it be correct to assume: 1. There is no reason to retry the same MGC with which a transaction failure has happened for Notify requests sent from MG. 2. For the reliable transport protocols it is possible to find out if the link/connection to MGC has gone down. I think the reason F.3.6 mentions to retry the same MGC is because we do not want to go into cycle of retrying all other MGCs during transient failures. But don't you think that the reliable transport layer itself should handle such transient failures. The transient failures should be transparent to H.248 layer. Isn't it better to have MG always try different MGC starting from primary (first in the list) irrespective of the transport protocol. For reliable transport protocols , the transport layer will have capability to recover from transient failures transparently, so that MG does not enter the disconnect procedure. Thanks, Vikram Schwarz Albrecht wrote: > Hi Raphael, > > you may be right for a particular network instantiation, whereas H.248.1 > is considering the more general case. > > Here: guess "Notify" relateds to the H.248.14-based "MGC polling > mechanism by MG", which again is a technology, required only for > non-assured transport protocols. > Any assured transport technology does not require H.248.14. > > Annex F (F.3.6) is transport-independent, thus not providing all > potential logic when coupling non-SC based call-independent procedures > with SC procedures. > > Saying that, your point is valid, and I would try to address it in a > profile spec (because a profile is transport dependent). > > BR, Albrecht > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raphael Tryster >> Sent: Dienstag, 29. Juli 2008 07:25 >> To: Christian Groves >> Cc: megaco@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Which MGC should be contacted first on >> retransmissiontimeout? >> >> >> Thanks, Christian. So to give a concrete example, if MG >> receives no reply to retransmissions of a Notify for half a >> minute, it will transmit SC Disconnected for another half a >> minute before trying failover to another MGC. I don't see >> any reason why retransmission timeout of SC is a more >> reliable indication of MGC failure than retransmission >> timeout of a Notify (except a bug in the MGC), but this >> mechanism provides some extra time to verify the MGC or the >> connection is dead before trying a different MGC. Is this >> extra time actually a Good Thing? >> >> Regards, >> >> Raphael >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:06 AM >> To: Raphael Tryster >> Cc: megaco@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Which MGC should be contacted first on >> retransmission timeout? >> >> Hello Raphael, >> >> In Amendment 1 to H.248.1v3 two notes were added to the F.3.6 >> text that may provide further explanation. The text reads: >> >> >> F.3.6 MG Lost Communication >> >> When the MG has detected a loss and subsequent >> re-establishment of communication with the MGC (NOTE 1), the >> MG sends a ServiceChange Command (NOTE 2) with a >> ServiceChangeMethod of "Disconnected" to the MGC >> >> in the current control association. If the MGC fails to >> respond, the MG then sends a ServiceChange Command with a >> ServiceChangeMethod of "Failover" and ServiceChangeReason 909 >> ("MGC Impending Failure") to each >> >> MGC in its list in turn until it has successfully established >> a new control association, or it has exhausted its list of >> MGCs. If the MGC does respond, the control association >> continues as if it were not interrupted. >> >> NOTE 1: The two main causes for lost communications between >> the MGC and MG are 1) failures or short-term interruptions of >> the H.248 transport connection, or 2) the primary MGC going >> "OutOfService". The MG will not necessarily be able to >> discriminate between the two, therefore the ServiceChange >> procedures are the same in both cases. >> >> NOTE 2: The MG may send one or more ServiceChange Commands. >> The transmission of subsequent ServiceChange Commands may be >> timer-controlled. Multiple re-establishment attempts may help >> in situations with short-term failures, either of the >> transport connection or of the MGC, thereby avoiding the >> invocation of failover procedures when they are not warranted. >> >> .... >> >> With regards to "Disconnected" despite its name its actually >> to indicate >> >> that the Control association was lost and is now re-established, thus >> the first sentence of F.3.6. I don't think there's a problem between >> 11.5 and F.3.6 because 11.5 indicates firstly that its already >> determined that the MGC has failed thus the procedure goes into >> failover. In F.3.6 the first part of the procedure is that >> communication >> >> is restored and if this isn't successful then go into a failover. >> With regards to the "hint" of another method I guess its relying on a >> transport level indication of connectivity between a MGC and MG. >> >> Regards, Christian >> >> Raphael Tryster wrote: >> >>> Is there a contradiction between 11.5 and F.3.6? >>> >>> 11.5 says: >>> >>> "If the MG detects a failure of its controlling MGC, it attempts to >>> contact the next MGC on its pre provisioned list. It starts its >>> >> attempts >> >>> at the beginning (primary MGC), unless that was the MGC that failed, >>> >> in >> >>> which case it starts at its first secondary MGC". >>> >>> F.3.6 says: >>> >>> "When the MG has detected a loss and subsequent re-establishment of >>> communication with the MGC, the MG sends a ServiceChange >>> >> Command with >> a >> >>> ServiceChangeMethod of 'Disconnected' to the MGC in the current >>> >> control >> >>> association. If the MGC fails to respond, the MG then sends a >>> ServiceChange Command with a ServiceChangeMethod of 'Failover' and >>> ServiceChangeReason 909 ('MGC Impending Failure') to each MGC in its >>> list in turn until it has successfully established a new control >>> association, or it has exhausted its list of MGCs". >>> >>> So, suppose MG sent a Notify and failed to receive a reply before >>> retransmissions timed out. According to 11.5, it would send SC to a >>> DIFFERENT MGC. According to F.3.6, it would send SC to the >>> >> SAME MGC, >> >>> and only try a different one if the SC also timed out. Which is it? >>> >>> I am also puzzled by the language of F.3.6. ""When the MG has >>> >> detected >> >>> a loss and subsequent re-establishment of communication >>> >> with the MGC". >> >>> Usually, SC Disconnected is sent as a trial to see whether the MGC >>> >> will >> >>> now reply, and not as a result of re-establishment of communication. >>> >> Is >> >>> some other method of detecting re-establishment of >>> >> communication being >> >>> hinted at here? >>> >>> Raphael Tryster >>> >>> >> ************************************************************** >> ********** >> ********************** >> >>> IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are >>> >> confidential. 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Thread-Index: AckSpUZSJyBf1p+ARdSC4lGcgB95igAbMUGQ References: <488EA527.90108@nteczone.com> <48C6B895.90106@redback.com> From: "Schwarz Albrecht" To: "Vikram Guleria" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2008 07:22:05.0586 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED74B720:01C91315] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.13 Cc: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Conclusion "MGC Out-of-Service" - Immediate vs Delayed Failover; RE: Which MGC should be contacted first on retransmission timeout? X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hello Vikram, guess that there is in the meanwhile consensus within the H.248 community, that there isn't such a thing like a "better behaviour" in *general*. Because we got multiple useful, but "conditional actions", as you also describe. Multiple possible actions is inline with H.248. [The underlying problem in reality are actually H.248 implementations which are just supporting "one action", which is on the one side H.248 compliant, but for some particular conditions "not the best action".] In this scenario might be following conditions: C1: H.248 transport mode (reliable vs non-assured transport) C2: IPLR in the network segment of the H.248 CA C3: Node availability of primary MGC implementation C4: Node availability of secondary MGC implementation (C5: Node availability of MG implementation) C6: ... Next step would be the quantitative estimation of time periods, in order to distinguish re-attempts with the primary MGC vs failover action vs ... Conclusion: a real-world MGC-MG tandem (= H.248 CA) must provide a coordinated set of "service change rules" (rule Rx: set of conditions C will lead to action Ay ...), of course, compliant to H.248. Such a coordination may be only done via an H.248 profile specification, i.e. the mutual agreement between MGC and MG. A standardized profile is just the first step. You need to add more details on call-independent procedures (e.g. using the macros from ETSI TR 183 025. Then you have to specify the "conditional actions" also in the profile. This is the only way forward in my opinion. If not, both H.248 entities claiming correctly a H.248 compliant ServiceChange implementation, but covering only a subset of real-world use cases. If not, you may end in protocol deadlocks. Particularily MGCs as master should be capable in differentiating multiple actions, or specify in the profile spec the set of expected actions by their controlled MGs. Not to forget the management plane, which requires a similar coordination between the fault/alarm mgmt of all controlled MGs and primary/secondary MGCs. The alarm mgmt behaviour (related to H.248 ServiceChanges) might be also covered in the H.248 profile spec. BR, Albrecht PS Some time ago we did a high-level proposal on this SC aspect, see ETSI TISPAN contribution: 13tTD374 WI-03051 H.248 System Management - Conclusion "MGC Out-of-Service" - Immediate vs Delayed Failover http://docbox.etsi.org/TISPAN/TISPAN/99-Archive/2007/50-20070514-Sophia- 13ter/13tTD374_WI-03051_H.248_System_Management_%E2%80%93_Conclusion_%E2 %80%9CMGC_Out-of-Service%E2%80%9D_%E2%80%93_Immediate_vs_Delayed_Failove r.doc > -----Original Message----- > From: Vikram Guleria [mailto:vguleria@redback.com] > Sent: Dienstag, 9. September 2008 19:56 > To: Schwarz Albrecht > Cc: Raphael Tryster; megaco@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Megaco] Which MGC should be contacted first on > retransmission timeout? > > Hi Albrecht, > > After going through this thread will it be correct to assume: > > 1. There is no reason to retry the same MGC with which a > transaction failure has happened for Notify requests sent from MG. > 2. For the reliable transport protocols it is possible to > find out if the link/connection to MGC has gone down. I think > the reason F.3.6 mentions to retry the same MGC is because we > do not want to go into cycle of retrying all other MGCs > during transient failures. But don't you think that the > reliable transport layer itself should handle such transient > failures. The transient failures should be transparent to > H.248 layer. > > Isn't it better to have MG always try different MGC starting > from primary (first in the list) irrespective of the > transport protocol. For reliable transport protocols , the > transport layer will have capability to recover from > transient failures transparently, so that MG does not enter > the disconnect procedure. > > Thanks, > Vikram > > > > > Schwarz Albrecht wrote: > > Hi Raphael, > > > > you may be right for a particular network instantiation, whereas > > H.248.1 is considering the more general case. > > > > Here: guess "Notify" relateds to the H.248.14-based "MGC polling > > mechanism by MG", which again is a technology, required only for > > non-assured transport protocols. > > Any assured transport technology does not require H.248.14. > > > > Annex F (F.3.6) is transport-independent, thus not providing all > > potential logic when coupling non-SC based call-independent > procedures > > with SC procedures. > > > > Saying that, your point is valid, and I would try to > address it in a > > profile spec (because a profile is transport dependent). > > > > BR, Albrecht > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org > >> [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raphael Tryster > >> Sent: Dienstag, 29. Juli 2008 07:25 > >> To: Christian Groves > >> Cc: megaco@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Which MGC should be contacted first on > >> retransmissiontimeout? > >> > >> > >> Thanks, Christian. So to give a concrete example, if MG > receives no > >> reply to retransmissions of a Notify for half a minute, it will > >> transmit SC Disconnected for another half a minute before trying > >> failover to another MGC. I don't see any reason why > retransmission > >> timeout of SC is a more reliable indication of MGC failure than > >> retransmission timeout of a Notify (except a bug in the MGC), but > >> this mechanism provides some extra time to verify the MGC or the > >> connection is dead before trying a different MGC. Is this > extra time > >> actually a Good Thing? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Raphael > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:06 AM > >> To: Raphael Tryster > >> Cc: megaco@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [Megaco] Which MGC should be contacted first on > >> retransmission timeout? > >> > >> Hello Raphael, > >> > >> In Amendment 1 to H.248.1v3 two notes were added to the F.3.6 text > >> that may provide further explanation. The text reads: > >> > >> > >> F.3.6 MG Lost Communication > >> > >> When the MG has detected a loss and subsequent re-establishment of > >> communication with the MGC (NOTE 1), the MG sends a ServiceChange > >> Command (NOTE 2) with a ServiceChangeMethod of > "Disconnected" to the > >> MGC > >> > >> in the current control association. If the MGC fails to > respond, the > >> MG then sends a ServiceChange Command with a > ServiceChangeMethod of > >> "Failover" and ServiceChangeReason 909 ("MGC Impending > Failure") to > >> each > >> > >> MGC in its list in turn until it has successfully > established a new > >> control association, or it has exhausted its list of MGCs. > If the MGC > >> does respond, the control association continues as if it were not > >> interrupted. > >> > >> NOTE 1: The two main causes for lost communications > between the MGC > >> and MG are 1) failures or short-term interruptions of the H.248 > >> transport connection, or 2) the primary MGC going > "OutOfService". The > >> MG will not necessarily be able to discriminate between the two, > >> therefore the ServiceChange procedures are the same in both cases. > >> > >> NOTE 2: The MG may send one or more ServiceChange Commands. > >> The transmission of subsequent ServiceChange Commands may be > >> timer-controlled. Multiple re-establishment attempts may help in > >> situations with short-term failures, either of the transport > >> connection or of the MGC, thereby avoiding the invocation > of failover > >> procedures when they are not warranted. > >> > >> .... > >> > >> With regards to "Disconnected" despite its name its actually to > >> indicate > >> > >> that the Control association was lost and is now > re-established, thus > >> the first sentence of F.3.6. I don't think there's a > problem between > >> 11.5 and F.3.6 because 11.5 indicates firstly that its already > >> determined that the MGC has failed thus the procedure goes into > >> failover. In F.3.6 the first part of the procedure is that > >> communication > >> > >> is restored and if this isn't successful then go into a failover. > >> With regards to the "hint" of another method I guess its > relying on a > >> transport level indication of connectivity between a MGC and MG. > >> > >> Regards, Christian > >> > >> Raphael Tryster wrote: > >> > >>> Is there a contradiction between 11.5 and F.3.6? > >>> > >>> 11.5 says: > >>> > >>> "If the MG detects a failure of its controlling MGC, it > attempts to > >>> contact the next MGC on its pre provisioned list. It starts its > >>> > >> attempts > >> > >>> at the beginning (primary MGC), unless that was the MGC > that failed, > >>> > >> in > >> > >>> which case it starts at its first secondary MGC". > >>> > >>> F.3.6 says: > >>> > >>> "When the MG has detected a loss and subsequent > re-establishment of > >>> communication with the MGC, the MG sends a ServiceChange > >>> > >> Command with > >> a > >> > >>> ServiceChangeMethod of 'Disconnected' to the MGC in the current > >>> > >> control > >> > >>> association. If the MGC fails to respond, the MG then sends a > >>> ServiceChange Command with a ServiceChangeMethod of > 'Failover' and > >>> ServiceChangeReason 909 ('MGC Impending Failure') to each > MGC in its > >>> list in turn until it has successfully established a new control > >>> association, or it has exhausted its list of MGCs". > >>> > >>> So, suppose MG sent a Notify and failed to receive a reply before > >>> retransmissions timed out. According to 11.5, it would > send SC to a > >>> DIFFERENT MGC. According to F.3.6, it would send SC to the > >>> > >> SAME MGC, > >> > >>> and only try a different one if the SC also timed out. > Which is it? > >>> > >>> I am also puzzled by the language of F.3.6. ""When the MG has > >>> > >> detected > >> > >>> a loss and subsequent re-establishment of communication > >>> > >> with the MGC". > >> > >>> Usually, SC Disconnected is sent as a trial to see whether the MGC > >>> > >> will > >> > >>> now reply, and not as a result of re-establishment of > communication. > >>> > >> Is > >> > >>> some other method of detecting re-establishment of > >>> > >> communication being > >> > >>> hinted at here? > >>> > >>> Raphael Tryster > >>> > >>> > >> ************************************************************** > >> ********** > >> ********************** > >> > >>> IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > >>> > >> confidential. 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Thread-Index: AckX7PdCsfZHAS7dSaqzeZ/COPdSYw== Message-ID: <01719E4A8816F04686A988909FBFC4A4BE20BB3282@aclmailbox.corp.audiocodes.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:39:26 -0700 Subject: [Megaco] What is the correct treatment when an action fails? 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charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============2061894479==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 16 13:19:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A59F3A680E; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:19:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C653A680E for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:19:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.089 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.089 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.089, BAYES_00=-2.599, EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SARE_GIF_ATTACH=1.42] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Eoe+b42115N4 for ; 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Thread-Index: AckX7PdCsfZHAS7dSaqzeZ/COPdSYwAS+u9g References: <01719E4A8816F04686A988909FBFC4A4BE20BB3282@aclmailbox.corp.audiocodes.com> From: "John Wainwright" To: "Nurit Shenhar" , Subject: Re: [Megaco] What is the correct treatment when an action fails? X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1995392474==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1995392474== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C91839.91A9FCE5" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91839.91A9FCE5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C91839.91A9FCE5" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C91839.91A9FCE5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have a classic case of this scenario with our response shown below As you see we respond to both Actions. Hope this helps John =20 =20 !/2 [w.x.y.z]:20000 T=3D284515136 { C=3D*{ O-AV=3DA1{ AT{M,E}}}, C=3D-{ O-AV=3DA1{ AT{M,E}}}} =20 MEGACO/2 [a.b.c.d]:2084 REPLY =3D 284515136 { CONTEXT =3D * { AUDITVALUE =3D A1 { ERROR =3D 435 { "Termination ID is not in specified Context" } } }, CONTEXT =3D - { AUDITVALUE =3D A1 { EVENTS =3D 84412159 { AL/ON, AL/OF { STRICT =3D STATE } }, MEDIA { TERMINATIONSTATE { SERVICESTATES =3D INSERVICE, BUFFER =3D OFF } } } } } =20 ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nurit Shenhar Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:11 AM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] What is the correct treatment when an action fails? =20 Hi all =20 Assuming we have two actions in a transaction, the first refers to ALL contexts and the second refers to the NULL context, what should be the correct treatment if there are no active contexts on the gateway? Should the second action be performed? =20 The standard refers to the case in which a command fails, but not to the case in which the action fails. =20 Thanks, =20 Nurit Shenhar Control and management Leader =20 =20 =20 Email: nurits@audiocodes.com Tel. +972-3-9764155 Fax. +972-3-9764223 www.audiocodes.com =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential material. They are intended solely for the use of the designated individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, use, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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We have a classic case of this = scenario with our response shown below

As you see we respond to both = Actions.  Hope this helps

John

 

 

!/2 [w.x.y.z]:20000  = T=3D284515136 {

C=3D*{

O-AV=3DA1{<= /p>

AT{M,E}}},<= /p>

C=3D-{

O-AV=3DA1{<= /p>

AT{M,E}}}}<= /p>

 

MEGACO/2 = [a.b.c.d]:2084

REPLY =3D 284515136 = {

  CONTEXT =3D * = {

    AUDITVALUE =3D = A1 {

  =     ERROR =3D 435 { "Termination ID is not in specified Context" = }

    = }

  = },

  CONTEXT =3D - = {

    AUDITVALUE =3D = A1 {

      = EVENTS =3D 84412159 { AL/ON,

      =             &= nbsp;       AL/OF { STRICT =3D STATE } },

      = MEDIA {

      =   TERMINATIONSTATE { SERVICESTATES =3D = INSERVICE,

      =             &= nbsp;        BUFFER =3D OFF }

      = }

    = }

  = }

}

 


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From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nurit Shenhar
Sent: Tuesday, September = 16, 2008 6:11 AM
To: megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] What is = the correct treatment when an action fails?

 

Hi all

 

Assuming we have two actions in a transaction, the first refers to ALL contexts = and the second refers to the NULL context, what should be the correct treatment = if there are no active contexts on the gateway?  Should the second = action be performed?

 

The standard refers to the case in which a command fails, but not to the = case in which the action fails.

 

Thanks,

 

Nurit = Shenhar

Control and management = Leader

 

 

 

Email: = nurits@audiocodes.com

Tel.  +972-3-9764155

Fax. +972-3-9764223

www.audiocodes.com

 

 

 


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Thread-Index: AckX7PdCsfZHAS7dSaqzeZ/COPdSYwAqL8eQ References: <01719E4A8816F04686A988909FBFC4A4BE20BB3282@aclmailbox.corp.audiocodes.com> From: "Krishna Prasad Kalluri" To: "Nurit Shenhar" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2008 07:31:50.0298 (UTC) FILETIME=[72DCEFA0:01C91897] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [Megaco] What is the correct treatment when an action fails? X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1252435403==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1252435403== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C91897.72FCA6B7" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91897.72FCA6B7 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C91897.72FCA6B7" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C91897.72FCA6B7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nurit, =20 It depends on whether the first command is marked with optional flag or not. If the first command is marked with "optional" flag then you have to continue and execute the section action request. =20 Here is the description from H.248.v2 page 43 Commands may be marked as "Optional" which can override this behaviour - if a command marked as Optional results in an error, subsequent commands in the Transaction will be executed. =20 So though the "optional" indication is there at the command level it applies to the Action request. The above statement is saying subsequent commands in the "TRANSACTION". =20 Regards Krishna=20 ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nurit Shenhar Sent: den 16 september 2008 13:11 To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] What is the correct treatment when an action fails? Hi all =20 Assuming we have two actions in a transaction, the first refers to ALL contexts and the second refers to the NULL context, what should be the correct treatment if there are no active contexts on the gateway? Should the second action be performed? =20 The standard refers to the case in which a command fails, but not to the case in which the action fails. =20 Thanks, =20 Nurit Shenhar Control and management Leader =20 =20 =20 Email: nurits@audiocodes.com Tel. +972-3-9764155 Fax. +972-3-9764223 www.audiocodes.com =20 =20 =20 =20 ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential material. They are intended solely for the use of the designated individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, use, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Hi Nurit,
 
It depends on whether the first command is = marked with=20 optional flag or not. If the first command is marked with "optional" = flag then=20 you have to continue and execute the section action = request.
 
Here is the description from H.248.v2 page=20 43
Commands may be marked = as "Optional"=20 which can override this behaviour – if a command=20 marked as Optional results in an error, subsequent commands in = the=20 Transaction will be executed.
 
So though the "optional" indication is there = at the=20 command level it applies to the Action request. The above statement is = saying=20 subsequent commands in the = "TRANSACTION".
 
Regards
Krishna 


From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org=20 [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nurit=20 Shenhar
Sent: den 16 september 2008 13:11
To:=20 megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] What is the correct = treatment when=20 an action fails?

Hi all

 

Assuming we have two actions in a transaction, the = first=20 refers to ALL contexts and the second refers to the NULL context, what = should be=20 the correct treatment if there are no active contexts on the gateway?=20  Should the second action be performed?

 

The standard refers to the case in which a command = fails, but=20 not to the case in which the action fails.

 

Thanks,

 

Nurit=20 Shenhar

Control=20 and management Leader

 

 

 

Email:=20 nurits@audiocodes.com

Tel. =20 +972-3-9764155

Fax.=20 +972-3-9764223

www.audiocodes.com

 

 



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Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1221697487-1176-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from smtp.exchangecentral.net (onr-off.chi.us.siteprotect.com [64.41.122.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13983A6942 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:31:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: From: "Tom Deckert" To: Subject: Re: [Megaco] Megaco Digest, Vol 53, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1221697487-1176-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WARNING: contains banned part ------------=_1221697487-1176-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822; x-spam-type=original; name="message" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="message" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Original message Received: from smtp.exchangecentral.net (onr-off.chi.us.siteprotect.com [64.41.122.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13983A6942 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:24:40 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C91925.F4C1E466" Subject: RE: Megaco Digest, Vol 53, Issue 11 Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:31:56 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Megaco Digest, Vol 53, Issue 11 Thread-Index: AckY+Kijxqbv0ZHpQBeKcc4ueUsEegALH3+H References: From: "Tom Deckert" To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91925.F4C1E466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, >From reading this thread, my interpretation is that any action which contains only optional commands will always succeed. By definition. Thanks, Tom=20 -----Original Message----- From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of megaco-request@ietf.org Sent: Wed 9/17/2008 2:00 PM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: Megaco Digest, Vol 53, Issue 11 =20 Send Megaco mailing list submissions to megaco@ietf.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to megaco-request@ietf.org You can reach the person managing the list at megaco-owner@ietf.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Megaco digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: What is the correct treatment when an action fails? (Krishna Prasad Kalluri) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:31:49 +0200 From: "Krishna Prasad Kalluri" Subject: Re: [Megaco] What is the correct treatment when an action fails? To: "Nurit Shenhar" , Message-ID: =09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Hi Nurit, =20 It depends on whether the first command is marked with optional flag or not. If the first command is marked with "optional" flag then you have to continue and execute the section action request. =20 Here is the description from H.248.v2 page 43 Commands may be marked as "Optional" which can override this behaviour - if a command marked as Optional results in an error, subsequent commands in the Transaction will be executed. =20 So though the "optional" indication is there at the command level it applies to the Action request. The above statement is saying subsequent commands in the "TRANSACTION". =20 Regards Krishna=20 ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nurit Shenhar Sent: den 16 september 2008 13:11 To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] What is the correct treatment when an action fails? Hi all =20 Assuming we have two actions in a transaction, the first refers to ALL contexts and the second refers to the NULL context, what should be the correct treatment if there are no active contexts on the gateway? Should the second action be performed? =20 The standard refers to the case in which a command fails, but not to the case in which the action fails. =20 Thanks, =20 Nurit Shenhar Control and management Leader =20 =20 =20 Email: nurits@audiocodes.com Tel. +972-3-9764155 Fax. +972-3-9764223 www.audiocodes.com =20 =20 =20 =20 ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential material. They are intended solely for the use of the designated individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, use, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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7.2.310.1 Subject: [Megaco] Question about port numbers being used for T.38 in megaco X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1073463331==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org --===============1073463331== Content-return: prohibited Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Xw690d+ApNAlNl4a+nRb9Q)" --Boundary_(ID_Xw690d+ApNAlNl4a+nRb9Q) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, I have a quick question about the port numbers used for T.38 in megaco. Is it a must for T.38 to have it's own port number (different from one assigned for audio). Is is possible to use the same port number for audio and T.38 stream. - ramesh --Boundary_(ID_Xw690d+ApNAlNl4a+nRb9Q) Content-type: TEXT/HTML; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hello,
 
I have a quick question about the port numbers used for T.38 in megaco.
 
Is it a must for T.38 to have it's own port number (different from one assigned for audio).  Is is possible to use the same port number for audio and T.38 stream.
 
- ramesh
--Boundary_(ID_Xw690d+ApNAlNl4a+nRb9Q)-- --===============1073463331== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============1073463331==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thu Sep 18 06:15:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0117428C0D0; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:15:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96C33A6774 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:15:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.946 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.946 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.302, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yieTnY806W4l for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (mailgw4.ericsson.se [193.180.251.62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB9C3A63C9 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 2A2F6204CA; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:15:30 +0200 (CEST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-a9e87bb000007a96-4b-48d254722e77 Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.121]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 01383204C2; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:15:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw107.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.70]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:15:23 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:15:22 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0K7D0025XZDS10B0@priority.oak.zhone.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Question about port numbers being used for T.38 in megaco Thread-Index: AckZeCqoxiTDAQjrQcWgrXRvd4p0kwAF69cg References: <0K7D0025XZDS10B0@priority.oak.zhone.com> From: "Krishna Prasad Kalluri" To: "Ramesh Babu Kuppili" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2008 13:15:23.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B71EED0:01C91990] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [Megaco] Question about port numbers being used for T.38 in megaco X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0042063299==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0042063299== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C91990.9B81AFF6" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91990.9B81AFF6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ramesh, =20 There is no such restriction to use different port for T38. I think at least its not specified in any standards. =20 The only important thing is to modify the media path when you are sure that remote side can also support T38. =20 Regards Krishna ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ramesh Babu Kuppili Sent: den 18 september 2008 12:20 To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Question about port numbers being used for T.38 in megaco Hello, =20 I have a quick question about the port numbers used for T.38 in megaco. =20 Is it a must for T.38 to have it's own port number (different from one assigned for audio). Is is possible to use the same port number for audio and T.38 stream. =20 - ramesh ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91990.9B81AFF6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ramesh,
 
There is no such restriction to use different = port for T38.=20 I think at least its not specified in any standards.
 
The only important thing is to modify the media = path when=20 you are sure that remote side can also support T38.
 
Regards
Krishna


From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org=20 [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ramesh Babu=20 Kuppili
Sent: den 18 september 2008 12:20
To:=20 megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] Question about port numbers = being=20 used for T.38 in megaco

Hello,
 
I have = a quick=20 question about the port numbers used for T.38 in = megaco.
 
Is it = a must for=20 T.38 to have it's own port number (different from one assigned for = audio). =20 Is is possible to use the same port number for audio and T.38=20 stream.
 
-=20 ramesh
------_=_NextPart_001_01C91990.9B81AFF6-- --===============0042063299== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============0042063299==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thu Sep 18 22:47:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDBD3A68D7; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:47:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5255E3A68D7 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:47:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T09YV2T78E-Y for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zw2-smtp1.zhone.com (zw2-smtp1.zhone.com [199.190.211.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8648E3A67B6 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from priority.oak.zhone.com (priority.oak.zhone.com [172.16.1.21]) by smtp.zhone.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id m8J5m7Dm017196 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RKUPPILI.zhone.com ([192.168.127.40]) by priority.oak.zhone.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K7F00JN7HG44E20@priority.oak.zhone.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Content-return: prohibited Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:18:03 +0530 From: Ramesh Babu Kuppili To: megaco@ietf.org Message-id: <0K7F00JN8HG54E20@priority.oak.zhone.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Outlook Connector 7.2.310.1 Cc: Murugesh Govindaraju Subject: [Megaco] Event buffer Descriptor in H.248 X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0857475489==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org --===============0857475489== Content-return: prohibited Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pFzOQjxl6YSmvZSl+j3JeQ)" --Boundary_(ID_pFzOQjxl6YSmvZSl+j3JeQ) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello Megaco Gurus, In H.248, does absence of "Event Buffer Descriptor" in a message means we should use the previous received (if any) Event Buffer Descriptor. Thanks for your time. - ramesh --Boundary_(ID_pFzOQjxl6YSmvZSl+j3JeQ) Content-type: TEXT/HTML; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hello Megaco Gurus,
 
In H.248, does absence of "Event Buffer Descriptor" in a message means we should use the previous received (if any) Event Buffer Descriptor.
 
Thanks for your time.
 
- ramesh
--Boundary_(ID_pFzOQjxl6YSmvZSl+j3JeQ)-- --===============0857475489== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============0857475489==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Fri Sep 19 01:34:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055FE3A68BA; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:34:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4653A6939 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:34:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.948 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.948 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Ye7OeaK7pQg for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail5.alcatel.fr (smail5.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146F43A688C for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRVELSBHS03.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs03.ad2.ad.alcatel.com [155.132.6.75]) by smail5.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id m8J8XoxL023855; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:34:29 +0200 Received: from FRVELSMBS24.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.52]) by FRVELSBHS03.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:34:07 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:37:10 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0K7F00JN8HG54E20@priority.oak.zhone.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Event buffer Descriptor in H.248 Thread-Index: AckaG1CGJNacxCopT6uPiSEvYvC1VAAFsveQ References: <0K7F00JN8HG54E20@priority.oak.zhone.com> From: "CHATURVEDI PRABUDDHA" To: "Ramesh Babu Kuppili" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2008 08:34:07.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B14FDB0:01C91A32] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.13 Subject: Re: [Megaco] Event buffer Descriptor in H.248 X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2134365428==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2134365428== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C91A32.7A694A64" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91A32.7A694A64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I hope your scenario fits case 1 of 7.1.9 of standard doc and you seems to be right. "The MG waits for a new Events Descriptor. While waiting for a new Events Descriptor, any events detected that appear in the EventBuffer Descriptor will be placed in the EventBuffer." your event buffer control seems to be LockStep else events in buffer would have been discarded and buffereing would have no meaning. =20 =20 Best Regards. Prabuddha C ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ramesh Babu Kuppili Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:18 AM To: megaco@ietf.org Cc: Murugesh Govindaraju Subject: [Megaco] Event buffer Descriptor in H.248 Hello Megaco Gurus, =20 In H.248, does absence of "Event Buffer Descriptor" in a message means we should use the previous received (if any) Event Buffer Descriptor. =20 Thanks for your time. =20 - ramesh ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91A32.7A694A64 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
I hope your scenario fits case 1 of 7.1.9 of = standard doc=20 and you seems to be right.
"The MG  waits for a new Events Descriptor. = While waiting=20 for a new Events Descriptor, any events detected that appear in the = EventBuffer=20 Descriptor will be placed in the EventBuffer."  your=20 event buffer control seems to be LockStep else events in buffer would = have been=20 discarded and buffereing would have no = meaning.
 
 
Best Regards.
Prabuddha=20 C


From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org=20 [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ramesh Babu=20 Kuppili
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:18 = AM
To:=20 megaco@ietf.org
Cc: Murugesh Govindaraju
Subject: = [Megaco]=20 Event buffer Descriptor in H.248

Hello = Megaco=20 Gurus,
 
In = H.248, does=20 absence of "Event Buffer Descriptor" in a message means we should use = the=20 previous received (if any) Event Buffer Descriptor.
 
Thanks = for your=20 time.
 
-=20 ramesh
------_=_NextPart_001_01C91A32.7A694A64-- --===============2134365428== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============2134365428==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 22 04:03:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBED53A6890; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:03:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8279A3A6890 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:03:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.316 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.316 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_ASCII0=1.5] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xs7lvQS6OkcI for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tparelay1.telrad.com (tparelay1.telrad.com [62.90.58.240]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657603A6874 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tparelay1.telrad.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tparelay1.telrad.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m8MAvs7c027024 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:57:54 +0300 Received: from TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il ([141.226.76.177]) by tparelay1.telrad.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id m8MAvpcI027015 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:57:53 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:04:53 +0300 Message-ID: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121C3D@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Subtract all calls Thread-Index: AckcownoHjVVYCBZTZ6wb/A5CQsXow== From: "Tamar Nemet" To: Subject: [Megaco] Subtract all calls X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1902766596==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1902766596== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C91CA3.0A10D9C8" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91CA3.0A10D9C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 When MG get the following message for MGC: =20 !/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 T=3D95{C=3D*{O-W-S=3D*{AT{}}}} =20 What it should do ? I understand that it should subtract all calls, but what it should put in the reply ? all the termination that had been subtracted ? And if it has 2000 calls , how it can be sent in one reply ? =20 Thanks for your help, Tamar ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91CA3.0A10D9C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hi,
 
When = MG get the=20 following message for MGC:
 
!/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944=20 T=3D95{C=3D*{O-W-S=3D*{AT{}}}}
 
What = it should do ?=20 I understand that it should subtract all calls, but what it should put = in the=20 reply ? all the termination that had been subtracted ? And if it has = 2000 calls=20 , how it can be sent in one reply ?
 
Thanks = for your=20 help,
Tamar
=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91CA3.0A10D9C8-- --===============1902766596== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============1902766596==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 22 04:58:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FAF28C0E1; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:58:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8206D28C0E1 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:58:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OrsONMVUlbio for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (jaguar.aricent.com [121.241.96.11]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CE128C0DE for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jaguar.aricent.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8MBsVBW001118 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:24:31 +0530 Received: from GUREXHT02.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM (gurexht02.asian.ad.aricent.com [10.203.171.138]) by jaguar.aricent.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8MBsUvZ001083 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:24:30 +0530 Received: from GUREXMB01.asian.ad.aricent.com ([10.203.171.130]) by GUREXHT02.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM ([10.203.171.138]) with mapi; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:28:01 +0530 From: Deepak Bissa To: Tamar Nemet , "megaco@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:27:59 +0530 Thread-Topic: Subtract all calls Thread-Index: AckcownoHjVVYCBZTZ6wb/A5CQsXowAB0Bcw Message-ID: <31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E118951E83717718@GUREXMB01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM> References: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121C3D@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> In-Reply-To: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121C3D@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Megaco] Subtract all calls X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1072528095==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org --===============1072528095== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E118951E83717718GUREXMB01ASIA_" --_000_31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E118951E83717718GUREXMB01ASIA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, This is an optional wildcarded subtract command and MGC is not interested i= n knowing the termination ids in response. If there are contexts present then MG should return !/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 T=3D95{C=3D*{S=3D*}} Else it should return with error descriptor !/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 T=3D95{ER=3D411{}} Please refer to mail with subject "cleaning up of contexts" dated 31/05/200= 2 With regards, Deepak Bissa Extn 5106 ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Tamar Nemet Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:35 PM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Subtract all calls Hi, When MG get the following message for MGC: !/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 T=3D95{C=3D*{O-W-S=3D*{AT{}}}} What it should do ? I understand that it should subtract all calls, but wha= t it should put in the reply ? all the termination that had been subtracted= ? And if it has 2000 calls , how it can be sent in one reply ? Thanks for your help, Tamar ________________________________ "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solely = for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privi= leged or confidential information and should not be circulated or used for = any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have received this m= essage in error,please notify the originator immediately. If you are not th= e intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited fro= m using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of this message. Ari= cent accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising from the use of t= he information transmitted by this email including damage from virus." --_000_31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E118951E83717718GUREXMB01ASIA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Hello,

This is an optional wildcarded subtract command and MGC = is not interested in knowing the termination ids in response.

If there are contexts present then MG = should return

!/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 T=3D95{C=3D*{S=3D*}}

 

 

Else it should return with error descr= iptor

!/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 T=3D95{ER=3D411{}}

 

Please refer to mail with subject R= 20;cleaning up of contexts” dated 31/05/2002=

 

With regards,

Deepak Bissa

Extn 5106


From: mega= co-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tamar Nemet
Sent: Monday, September 22, = 2008 4:35 PM
To: megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] Subtract a= ll calls

 

Hi,

 

When MG get the following message for MGC:=

 

!/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 T=3D95{C=3D*{O-W-S=3D*{AT{}}}}

 

What it should do ? I understand that it should subtract= all calls, but what it should put in the reply ? all the termination that = had been subtracted ? And if it has 2000 calls , how it can be sent in one reply ?

 

Thanks for your help,

Tamar



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--_000_31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E118951E83717718GUREXMB01ASIA_-- --===============1072528095== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============1072528095==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Mon Sep 22 05:32:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8393A6A10; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:32:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661B43A69FF for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:32:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.409 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.409 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.907, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6, MIME_ASCII0=1.5] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fO8phf3ebQXm for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tparelay1.telrad.com (tparelay1.telrad.com [62.90.58.240]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B7C3A6988 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tparelay1.telrad.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tparelay1.telrad.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m8MCQKbb009514 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:26:21 +0300 Received: from TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il ([141.226.76.177]) by tparelay1.telrad.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id m8MCQIhs009505; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:26:18 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:33:20 +0300 Message-ID: <6FC94336B3E3F6468408F294C14A9ECB02121C40@TLRD-MAIL1.Telrad.co.il> In-Reply-To: <31F873353B13F2419C80FD0833E118951E83717718@GUREXMB01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Subtract all calls Thread-Index: AckcownoHjVVYCBZTZ6wb/A5CQsXowAB0BcwAAFEvVA= From: "Tamar Nemet" To: "Deepak Bissa" , Subject: Re: [Megaco] Subtract all calls X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2029367770==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2029367770== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C91CAF.657DEA34" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91CAF.657DEA34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your reply -----Original Message----- From: Deepak Bissa [mailto:deepak.bissa@aricent.com]=20 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:58 PM To: Tamar Nemet; megaco@ietf.org Subject: RE: Subtract all calls =09 =09 Hello, This is an optional wildcarded subtract command and MGC is not interested in knowing the termination ids in response. If there are contexts present then MG should return=20 !/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 T=3D95{C=3D*{S=3D*}} =20 =20 Else it should return with error descriptor !/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 T=3D95{ER=3D411{}} =20 Please refer to mail with subject "cleaning up of contexts" dated 31/05/2002 =20 With regards, Deepak Bissa Extn 5106 =09 ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tamar Nemet Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:35 PM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Subtract all calls =20 Hi, =20 When MG get the following message for MGC: =20 !/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944 T=3D95{C=3D*{O-W-S=3D*{AT{}}}} =20 What it should do ? I understand that it should subtract all calls, but what it should put in the reply ? all the termination that had been subtracted ? And if it has 2000 calls , how it can be sent in one reply ? =20 Thanks for your help, Tamar ________________________________ "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged or confidential information and should not be circulated or used for any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have received this message in error,please notify the originator immediately. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited from using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of this message. Aricent accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising from the use of the information transmitted by this email including damage from virus." =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91CAF.657DEA34 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Thanks=20 for your reply
-----Original Message-----
From: = Deepak Bissa=20 [mailto:deepak.bissa@aricent.com]
Sent: Monday, September = 22, 2008=20 2:58 PM
To: Tamar Nemet; megaco@ietf.org
Subject: = RE:=20 Subtract all calls

Hello,

This is an optional = wildcarded=20 subtract command and MGC is not interested in knowing the termination = ids in=20 response.

If there = are contexts=20 present then MG should return

!/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944=20 T=3D95{C=3D*{S=3D*}}

 

 

Else it = should return=20 with error descriptor

!/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944=20 T=3D95{ER=3D411{}}

 

Please = refer to mail=20 with subject “cleaning up of contexts” dated=20 31/05/2002

 

With=20 regards,

Deepak=20 Bissa

Extn=20 5106


From:=20 megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tamar = Nemet
Sent: Monday, September 22, = 2008 4:35=20 PM
To:=20 megaco@ietf.org
Subject:=20 [Megaco] Subtract all calls

 

Hi,

 

When MG get the = following message=20 for MGC:

 

!/1 [10.100.4.28]:2944=20 T=3D95{C=3D*{O-W-S=3D*{AT{}}}}

 

What it should do ? I = understand=20 that it should subtract all calls, but what it should put in the reply = ? all=20 the termination that had been subtracted ? And if it has 2000 calls , = how it=20 can be sent in one reply ?

 

Thanks for your=20 help,

Tamar



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=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C91CAF.657DEA34-- --===============2029367770== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============2029367770==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Sun Sep 28 09:55:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08083A6767; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:55:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0CE3A6767 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:55:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.184 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.184 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XQfCY3A8vKSJ for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zw2-smtp1.zhone.com (zw2-smtp1.zhone.com [199.190.211.5]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB8F3A6403 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from priority.oak.zhone.com (priority.oak.zhone.com [172.16.1.21]) by smtp.zhone.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id m8SGt3Dm009900 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RKUPPILI.zhone.com ([172.16.15.101]) by priority.oak.zhone.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K7X0069X0BOLC40@priority.oak.zhone.com> for megaco@ietf.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:24:58 +0530 From: Ramesh Babu Kuppili To: megaco@ietf.org Message-id: <0K7X0069Z0BPLC40@priority.oak.zhone.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Outlook Connector 7.2.310.1 Subject: [Megaco] Megaco question about interpretation of dot in a digitmap X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1625454772==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org --===============1625454772== Content-return: prohibited Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ATwTz1tlk1IM2P3PSqK5Kg)" --Boundary_(ID_ATwTz1tlk1IM2P3PSqK5Kg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, Megaco question about interpretation of dot in a digitmap. According the spec, the definition of "dot" is as follows: "Finally, the dot symbol "." stands for zero or more repetitions of the event selector (event, range of events, set of alternative events, or wildcard) that precedes it." What does "zero of more repetitions of the event selector that precedes it" mean. For example, if the digitmap is x., does it mean x + zero of more repetitions of x or does it mean just zero or more repetitions of x. As another example, lets say the digitmap i receive have a digitmap: "1x." and if the dialed digits as "123". What should be the timers started: (case 1) 1 - Long timer 2 - Long timer 3 - Short timer (this is x + zero or more repetitions of x) or (case 2) 1 - Long timer 2 - Short timer 3 - Short timer (this is zero or more repetitions of x) Thanks a lot for your time. - ramesh --Boundary_(ID_ATwTz1tlk1IM2P3PSqK5Kg) Content-type: TEXT/HTML; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hello, 

Megaco question about interpretation of dot in a digitmap.

According the spec, the definition of "dot" is as follows:
"Finally, the dot symbol "." stands for zero or more repetitions of the event selector (event, range of events, set of alternative events, or wildcard) that precedes it."

What does "zero of more repetitions of the event selector that precedes it" mean.

For example, if the digitmap is x., does it mean x + zero of more repetitions of x or does it mean just zero or more repetitions of x.

As another example, lets say the digitmap i receive have a digitmap: "1x." and if the dialed digits as "123".  What should be the timers started:

(case 1)
1 - Long timer
2 - Long timer
3 - Short timer
(this is x + zero or more repetitions of x)

or (case 2)
1 - Long timer
2 - Short timer
3 - Short timer
(this is zero or more repetitions of x)

Thanks a lot for your time.

- ramesh
--Boundary_(ID_ATwTz1tlk1IM2P3PSqK5Kg)-- --===============1625454772== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============1625454772==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Sun Sep 28 10:12:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857B128C0F5; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:12:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3224928C0E1 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:12:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.184 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.184 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t40EwoskazmS for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.teledata-networks.com (mail.teledata-networks.com [194.90.152.129]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 41C2328C0EF for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tndcmail.Teledata.Local ([10.1.100.59]) by eSafe SMTP Relay 1221048363; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:09:59 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:13:46 +0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0K7X0069Z0BPLC40@priority.oak.zhone.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Megaco question about interpretation of dot in a digitmap thread-index: Ackhiy1arGdxIIQbTjuC/1VYonX3+gAAi5Zw From: "Raphael Tryster" To: "Ramesh Babu Kuppili" , X-ESAFE-STATUS: Mail clean X-ESAFE-DETAILS: Subject: Re: [Megaco] Megaco question about interpretation of dot in a digitmap X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0924590718==" Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0924590718== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9218D.8A873FE0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9218D.8A873FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kevin Boyle answered this last year as copied below. However, I suspect not all deployed implementations comply. =20 Raphael =20 The key word here in H.248 is "repetitions". The map you provide as an example asks for "0800" followed by one or more digits between 0 and 9. That is, "08005" matches as does "08005678", but "0800" does NOT match. Kevin ________________________________ From: Bill Xiaoshaoping [mailto:xiaoshaoping@huawei.com ] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:02 AM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] DOT in H.248 Digit map syntax =20 =20 Hello all, Given a digit plan of "0800x.", which is the real intention of the following two: 1. matching with the dialed digits starting with 0800 followed by at least 1 digit and possible more digits 2. matching with the dialed digits starting with 0800 followed by ZERO digit or more Section 7.1.14.3 DigitMap syntax/H248 v3: =2E....Finally, the dot symbol "." stands for zero or more repetitions of the event selector (event, range of events, set of alternative events, or wildcard) that precedes it.=20 Explanation in MGCP is:=20 * Position: A period (".") which matches an arbitrary number, including zero, of occurrences of the preceding construct. Does the zero repetiton in H.248 means no occurence of the previous element as in MGCP? The digit map syntaxs of both are almost the same. Any help on this appreciated. Thanks ________________________________ From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ramesh Babu Kuppili Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:55 PM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Megaco question about interpretation of dot in a digitmap Hello,=20 Megaco question about interpretation of dot in a digitmap.=20 According the spec, the definition of "dot" is as follows:=20 "Finally, the dot symbol "." stands for zero or more repetitions of the event selector (event, range of events, set of alternative events, or wildcard) that precedes it."=20 What does "zero of more repetitions of the event selector that precedes it" mean.=20 For example, if the digitmap is x., does it mean x + zero of more repetitions of x or does it mean just zero or more repetitions of x.=20 As another example, lets say the digitmap i receive have a digitmap: "1x." and if the dialed digits as "123". What should be the timers started:=20 (case 1)=20 1 - Long timer=20 2 - Long timer=20 3 - Short timer=20 (this is x + zero or more repetitions of x)=20 or (case 2)=20 1 - Long timer=20 2 - Short timer=20 3 - Short timer=20 (this is zero or more repetitions of x)=20 Thanks a lot for your time.=20 - ramesh=20 *************************************************************************= ********************* IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidentia= l. They are intended for the=20 named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manage= r or the sender immediately and do=20 not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. *** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals, and malicious content.= *** *************************************************************************= ********************* ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9218D.8A873FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kevin=20 Boyle answered this last year as copied below.  However, I suspect n= ot all=20 deployed implementations comply.
 
Raphael
 

The key word here in H.248 is "repetitions". The map you provide as an= =20 example asks for "0800" followed by one or more digits between 0 and 9.

That is, "08005" matches as does "08005678", but "0800" does NOT match= =2E

Kevin

________________________________

From: Bill Xiaoshaoping [mailto:xiaoshaoping@huawei.com]

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:02 AM

To: megaco@ietf.org

Subject: [Megaco] DOT in H.248 Digit map syntax

 

 

Hello all,

Given a digit plan of "0800x.", which is the real intention of the

following two:

1. matching with the dialed digits starting with 0800 followed by at

least 1 digit and possible more digits

2. matching with the dialed digits starting with 0800 followed by ZERO=

digit or more

Section 7.1.14.3 DigitMap syntax/H248 v3:

.....Finally, the dot symbol "." stands for zero or more repetitions o= f

the event selector (event, range of events, set of alternative events,=

or wildcard) that precedes it.

Explanation in MGCP is:

* Position: A period (".") which matches an arbitrary number,

including zero, of occurrences of the preceding

construct.

Does the zero repetiton in H.248 means no occurence of the previous

element as in MGCP? The digit map syntaxs of both are almost the same.=

Any help on this appreciated.

Thanks



From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org=20 [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ramesh Babu=20 Kuppili
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:55 PM
To:=20 megaco@ietf.org
Subject: [Megaco] Megaco question about interpr= etation=20 of dot in a digitmap

<= SPAN=20 class=3Dli-threaded id=3Dli3>Hello, 
Megaco q
uestion about interpretation of= dot in a=20 digitmap.

According the spec, the definition of "dot" is as follo= ws:=20
"Finally, the dot symbol "." stands for zero or more repetitions of t= he=20 event selector (event, range of events, set of alternative events, or wil= dcard)=20 that precedes it."

What does "zero of more repetitions of the eve= nt=20 selector that precedes it" mean.

For example, if the digitmap is = x.,=20 does it mean x + zero of more repetitions of x or does it mean just zero = or more=20 repetitions of x.

As another example, lets say the digitmap i rec= eive=20 have a digitmap: "1x." and if the dialed digits as "123".  What shou= ld be=20 the timers started:

(case 1)
1 - Long timer
2 - Long time= r
3=20 - Short timer
(this is x + zero or more repetitions of x)

or = (case=20 2)
1 - Long timer
2 - Short timer
3 - Short timer
(this i= s zero=20 or more repetitions of x)

Thanks a lot for your time.

- r= amesh=20

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C9218D.8A873FE0-- --===============0924590718== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============0924590718==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Sun Sep 28 10:50:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DB53A6AB7; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:50:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2284F3A68D7 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:50:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.185 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.000, BAYES_40=-0.185, GB_I_LETTER=-2] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BoSyDiEDU+r2 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.teledata-networks.com (mail.teledata-networks.com [194.90.152.129]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A015A3A6B08 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tndcmail.Teledata.Local ([10.1.100.59]) by eSafe SMTP Relay 1221048363; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:47:44 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:51:32 +0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: terminationId syntax and semantics thread-index: AcEjoM9ZwOqSK48qEdW4jAAIxyQt74/73DNw From: "Raphael Tryster" To: "megaco ietf" X-ESAFE-STATUS: Mail clean X-ESAFE-DETAILS: Subject: [Megaco] terminationId syntax and semantics X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org I think it is a safe bet that George W. Bush has spent almost his entire presidency not understanding the rules by which which Megaco termination identifiers are constructed. I have been aware of the existence of Megaco for about the same period, and don't understand them either. TerminationID = "ROOT" / pathNAME / "$" / "*" ; Total length of pathNAME must not exceed 64 chars. pathNAME = ["*"] NAME *("/" / "*"/ ALPHA / DIGIT /"_" / "$" ) ["@" pathDomainName ] ; ABNF allows two or more consecutive "." although it is meaningless in a path domain name. pathDomainName = (ALPHA / DIGIT / "*" ) *63(ALPHA / DIGIT / "-" / "*" / ".") NAME = ALPHA *63(ALPHA / DIGIT / "_" ) I have been happily building Megaco termination ids of the form term1/term2/term3, like in MGCP, and hoping the above defintions would go away. Now, 3 of the possibilities for TerminationID are simple. pathNAME is the tricky one. What would it mean if it starts with a "*"? Wildcarded first term? But since NAME has to start with a letter, "*/5" would be illegal, so "*" would have to be a prefix of the first term, not the whole first term. Then, once we have seen something like *A/5", we could then follow it with something ridiculous, like "*A/5$$$_abcd////". Why is it important that the first term start with a letter and not a digit? Why doesn't it matter for the other terms? When should a terminationID include a pathDomainName and when not? When would one want to pepper a pathDomainName with "*"s? What I am really looking for is to understand the reasoning that led to defining the syntax as above. What things was it designed to allow and what was important to forbid? Is there semantic meaning to the "/" characters to delineate terms as units of wildcarding like in MGCP, or is the stack expected to do the most general regular expression processing with whatever legal string it gets, and the "/" has no special meaning? What abou the other special characters like "$". Can they be delimiters? And so on. I would be really grateful if someone can help me understand this before I am older than either the president or the vice president of the U.S.A. Raphael Tryster ********************************************************************************************** IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. *** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals, and malicious content. *** ********************************************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Sep 30 02:49:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: megaco-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-megaco-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA833A6AF9; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:49:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: megaco@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58903A6AF9 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:49:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.76 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.76 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aoedXnsXYOdm for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail5.alcatel.fr (smail5.alcatel.fr [62.23.212.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7857C3A6AE3 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRVELSBHS04.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs04.ad2.ad.alcatel.com [155.132.6.76]) by smail5.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id m8U9nITu014269; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:49:23 +0200 Received: from FRVELSMBS23.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.54]) by FRVELSBHS04.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:49:22 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:49:21 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] terminationId syntax and semantics Thread-Index: AcEjoM9ZwOqSK48qEdW4jAAIxyQt74/73DNwAFQ890A= References: From: "Schwarz Albrecht" To: "Raphael Tryster" , "megaco ietf" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2008 09:49:22.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0D4E910:01C922E1] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.13 Subject: Re: [Megaco] terminationId syntax and semantics X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org I don't know the rationale behind that ABNF grammar (because I wasn't involved in H.248 version 1). Anyway, the profile concept is a perfect means to address such kind of things (e.g. flexible syntax vs explicit semantic or not formal enough ABNF) IMHO. You may use the termination naming conventions in a profile to fix that issue. I'm not aware of any problems with profiled-defined termination names. Of course, may email is not answering your questions. [But I'm also not aware of any MG implementation, operating in the NoProfile mode, and using an identity management function which tries to generate unambiguous TerminationIDs solely on the basis of the Annex B ABNF grammar rules.] > -----Original Message----- > From: megaco-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:megaco-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Raphael Tryster > Sent: Sonntag, 28. September 2008 19:52 > To: megaco ietf > Subject: [Megaco] terminationId syntax and semantics > > I think it is a safe bet that George W. Bush has spent almost > his entire presidency not understanding the rules by which > which Megaco termination identifiers are constructed. I have > been aware of the existence of Megaco for about the same > period, and don't understand them either. > > TerminationID = "ROOT" / pathNAME / "$" / "*" > > ; Total length of pathNAME must not exceed 64 chars. > pathNAME = ["*"] NAME *("/" / "*"/ ALPHA / DIGIT /"_" / "$" ) ["@" > pathDomainName ] > > ; ABNF allows two or more consecutive "." although it is > meaningless in a path domain name. > pathDomainName = (ALPHA / DIGIT / "*" ) *63(ALPHA / DIGIT / > "-" / "*" / > ".") > > NAME = ALPHA *63(ALPHA / DIGIT / "_" ) > > I have been happily building Megaco termination ids of the > form term1/term2/term3, like in MGCP, and hoping the above > defintions would go away. > > Now, 3 of the possibilities for TerminationID are simple. > pathNAME is the tricky one. What would it mean if it starts > with a "*"? Wildcarded first term? But since NAME has to > start with a letter, "*/5" would be illegal, so "*" would > have to be a prefix of the first term, not the whole first > term. Then, once we have seen something like *A/5", we could > then follow it with something ridiculous, like "*A/5$$$_abcd////". > Why is it important that the first term start with a letter > and not a digit? Why doesn't it matter for the other terms? > > When should a terminationID include a pathDomainName and when > not? When would one want to pepper a pathDomainName with "*"s? > > What I am really looking for is to understand the reasoning > that led to defining the syntax as above. What things was it > designed to allow and what was important to forbid? Is there > semantic meaning to the "/" > characters to delineate terms as units of wildcarding like in > MGCP, or is the stack expected to do the most general regular > expression processing with whatever legal string it gets, and > the "/" has no special meaning? What abou the other special > characters like "$". Can they be delimiters? And so on. > > I would be really grateful if someone can help me understand > this before I am older than either the president or the vice > president of the U.S.A. > > Raphael Tryster > ************************************************************** > ******************************** > IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the > system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclose > the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. > *** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals, and > malicious content. *** > ************************************************************** > ******************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco