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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C738B6.24DF3640-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 15 18:45:52 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6bW7-0006hE-Os; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:45:31 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6bW5-0006h5-O3 for megaco@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:45:29 -0500 Received: from omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com ([144.140.83.195]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6bW2-0008HL-Ub for megaco@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:45:29 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [143.238.14.224]) by omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070115234520.HFTJ19269.omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@[127.0.0.1]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:45:20 +0000 Message-ID: <45AC120E.9040909@nteczone.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:45:18 +1100 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave.Stephens@RadiSys.com Subject: Re: [Megaco] RE: Base Root Package Interpretation References: <0a7901c738ce$5cf866b0$0c0c14ac@radisys.com> In-Reply-To: <0a7901c738ce$5cf866b0$0c0c14ac@radisys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at omta05ps.mx.bigpond.com from [143.238.14.224] using ID cngroves@bigpond.net.au at Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:45:18 +0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 825e642946eda55cd9bc654a36dab8c2 Cc: megaco@ietf.org X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hello Dave, Yes this is the correct list for questions. Given the usual December rush people don't have a lot of extra time so this may have been lost (either that or you were on the wrong one of Santa's lists :). ) Please see my responses below. Regards, Christian Dave Stephens wrote: > I posted the email below back in December and so far have had no response. > Could someone please review the request and let me know if: > A. This is indeed the correct place to post such question. > B. If A is yes if someone would be able to take the time to answer it > or propose where we might be > able to gather more information to allows us to clarify this issue. > > Thanks in advance, > > Dave > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dave Stephens > Team Leader VXML Team > RadiSys Canada Inc. > Ph: 604 918 6381 > Fax: 604 918 6400 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Dave Stephens [mailto:Dave.Stephens@RadiSys.com] > *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2006 3:01 PM > *To:* 'megaco@ietf.org' > *Subject:* Base Root Package Interpretation > > We are currently working through implementing the Base Root Package > and would appreciate hearing your interpretation of how > these elements should be applied to the transaction > resend algorithm. Our interest is only in the MG side although this would > apply equally to the MGC. We are using UDP/ALF. > > We reviewed the previous posting below by Jerker Zetterlund and the > follow up discussion: > http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/megaco/current/msg06418.html > > In particular, we are interested in this portion of the posting: > >> When MGC is responder: > >> - MGC sends pending at the latest at expiry of MGC timer > "MGCNormalExecutionTime". The "MGCNormalExecutionTime" is started when > the transaction request is received in MGC. > > >> - MG resends transaction request if it did not receive a pending or > reply at expiry of MG timer "MGCProvisioalResponseTimer". The > "MGCProvisionalResponseTimer" is started >> when transaction request > is sent from MG and when pending is recevied from MGC. > > Subsequent discussion indicated there might be some follow up in SG16. > However, we have not seen any subsequent clarification of this issue. > > Our interpretation is that in the absence of the Base Root Package, or > the setting of elements in the package, the retry algorithm as defined > in H.248.1 Appendix D .1.3 is used . In particular, "Implementations > SHALL ensure that the algorithm used to calculate retransmission > timing performs an exponentially increasing backoff of the > retransmission timeout for each retransmission or repetition after the > first one." [CNG] To begin with, implementation of the base root package is pretty much mandatory. You don't have to set the properties through signalling but these base property values should be at least set via provisioning. Once the provisional response timer is exceeded Annex D.1.3 would come into play. > > The Base Root package defines the MGCProvisionalResponseTimer element. > This value is calculated by the MGC and represents the time the MGC > would like the MG to wait before retransmitting requests that have > received neither a provisional response nor a reply to the actual > outstanding transaction. The value is constant and replaces the rate > of retransmission as calculated by the back-off algorithm. It is in > effect as soon as it is set. One of the ambiguities here is when does > this value take effect. Does it take effect as soon as it is set or > does it take effect only after the receipt of a provisional response? [CNG] I always assumed it took effect as soon as it was set. > Our assumption is that the behaviour associated with the > MGCProvisionalResponseTimer is: > 1. A timer is started for the MGCProvisionalResponseTimer period after > the initial transaction request has been sent. > 2. If it expires without receipt of a provisional response or > transaction reply then the transaction request is resent and the timer > restarted for the same period > 3. If a provisional response is received the timer is stopped and > restarted for the same period. > 4. If the transaction reply is received it is stopped and not restarted. [CNG] I agree with your assumptions. > > Is anybody aware of any subsequent clarification of this issue? [CNG] Any specific suggestions of changes to the text of H.248.1? > > Thanks, > > Dave > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dave Stephens > Team Leader VXML Team > RadiSys Canada Inc. > Ph: 604 918 6381 > Fax: 604 918 6400 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 15 18:52:17 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6bcU-0000bf-A2; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:52:06 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6bcS-0000Xu-T1 for megaco@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:52:04 -0500 Received: from omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com ([144.140.82.153]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6bcO-0000ol-PS for megaco@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:52:04 -0500 Received: from oaamta01ps.mx.bigpond.com ([143.238.14.224]) by omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070115235158.QWPO24786.omta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta01ps.mx.bigpond.com>; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:51:58 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [143.238.14.224]) by oaamta01ps.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070115235158.GZOJ12380.oaamta01ps.mx.bigpond.com@[127.0.0.1]>; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:51:58 +0000 Message-ID: <45AC139C.9060105@nteczone.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:51:56 +1100 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jin Qian Subject: Re: [Megaco] default value for priority References: <758350.46357.qm@web58908.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <758350.46357.qm@web58908.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at oaamta01ps.mx.bigpond.com from [143.238.14.224] using ID cngroves@bigpond.net.au at Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:51:56 +0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 52e1467c2184c31006318542db5614d5 Cc: megaco@ietf.org X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hello Jin, There is no "default" priority. If a MGC is using this context property then it is the one that must assign priorities to each context. In this case the MG shouldn't assume a default because it doesn't know what type (or priority) of call level service the context is being used for. Regards, Christian Jin Qian wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to this mailing list. I have simple question on megaco. > Context has property called priority. Wonder if there is a default > value for priority? H.248.1 ((05/2002) "6.1.1 Context attributes and > descriptors" mentions that priority can be from 0 to 15. > > Wonder if it would be OK if I use 7 as the default value. > > Thanks in advance! > > Jin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick > in no time > with theYahoo! 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charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============1112181401==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jan 16 10:07:09 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6pu1-0008Qv-4S; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:07:09 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6pty-0008OW-V5 for Megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:07:06 -0500 Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr ([62.23.212.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6ptw-0006NF-9K for Megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:07:06 -0500 Received: from esmail01.netfr.alcatel.fr (esmail01.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.182.216]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/NETFR) with ESMTP id l0GF6uPe004986 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:06:56 +0100 To: Megaco@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5 September 26, 2003 Message-ID: From: Ronald.Behar_Aldana@alcatel-lucent.es Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:06:55 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on ESMAIL01/ES/ALCATEL(Release 5.0.13aHF163 | June 23, 2005) at 01/16/2007 16:06:56, Serialize complete at 01/16/2007 16:06:56 X-Alcanet-MTA-scanned-and-authorized: yes X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Cc: Subject: [Megaco] ISDN TerminatioID X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0991472586==" Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0991472586== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005307CCC1257265_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005307CCC1257265_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I would like to know if there is a standard name to be used by B channels of a ISDN port when the Megaco interface has to handle them. regards Ronald Behar Aldana CTAC Wireline Spain +34 913305322 --=_alternative 005307CCC1257265_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I would like to know if there is a standard name to be used by B channels of a ISDN port when the Megaco interface has to handle them.

regards

Ronald Behar Aldana
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+34 913305322 --=_alternative 005307CCC1257265_=-- --===============0991472586== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============0991472586==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jan 16 10:36:06 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6qM0-0001ZK-3e; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:36:04 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6qLz-0001Z8-1O for Megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:36:03 -0500 Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net ([69.145.248.57]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6qLw-0002P4-Q4 for Megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:36:03 -0500 Received: from [72.174.194.202] (HELO [192.168.2.98]) by fe-4.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.11) with ESMTPS id 113196636; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:36:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Megaco] ISDN TerminatioID From: Terry Howe To: Ronald.Behar_Aldana@alcatel-lucent.es In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Tiptop Software Company Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:34:34 -0700 Message-Id: <1168961674.10902.14.camel@m38> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7a6398bf8aaeabc7a7bb696b6b0a2aad Cc: Megaco@ietf.org X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: terry@jeeptech.com List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 16:06 +0100, Ronald.Behar_Aldana@alcatel-lucent.es wrote: > > I would like to know if there is a standard name to be used by B > channels of a ISDN port when the Megaco interface has to handle them. What ever is convenient for the implementation, so what ever can be converted easily and looked up in a port map. Terry Howe http://www.tiptopsoftwarecompany.com/ _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From lefebremar@gaygreece.com Tue Jan 16 16:26:49 2007 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6vpR-0006Uu-8U for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:26:49 -0500 Received: from anantes-256-1-38-47.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr ([86.199.5.47] helo=gaygreece.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6vpN-0004qB-Jt for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:26:49 -0500 Message-ID: <01c739b5$08f24f30$b400a8c0@jeje> Reply-To: "Basile Coy" From: "Basile Coy" To: "Delphina Wene" Subject: Re: now reachles Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:26:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C739BD.1FD82690" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.2826 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c1c65599517f9ac32519d043c37c5336 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C739BD.1FD82690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi When you need it now - VIGRA. When you need it later - CIALS. =20 http://www.pobklfrnoot.com =20 =20 to seem as distant as the moon. Just as it had before he faced the Horntail, time was slipping away as though somebody had bewitched the clocks to go extra-fast. There was a ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C739BD.1FD82690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C739BD.1FD82690-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jan 16 17:48:36 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6x6P-0005pF-IP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:48:25 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6x6O-0005pA-8f for Megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:48:24 -0500 Received: from omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com ([144.140.93.195]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6x6M-0000fh-Pe for Megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:48:24 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [203.51.180.248]) by omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070116224819.TXOD14364.omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com@[127.0.0.1]>; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:48:19 +0000 Message-ID: <45AD562D.1090202@nteczone.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:48:13 +1100 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ronald.Behar_Aldana@alcatel-lucent.es Subject: Re: [Megaco] Wilcard - in SDP References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at omta05sl.mx.bigpond.com from [203.51.180.248] using ID cngroves@bigpond.net.au at Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:48:12 +0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 21c69d3cfc2dd19218717dbe1d974352 Cc: Megaco@ietf.org X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hello Ronald, "-" is actually not a valid SDP character according to RFC2327 ABNF. H.248 itself does not introduce this "wildcard". There are profiles which do introduce the usage of this (which is dubious IMHO, but was added to the profile). So if you have H.248.1 (any version) and are not using a profile then I would consider it an error. If a profile is being used which describes the use of the "-" then it would be OK. Its up to the profile to say which version of H.248 is being used. Regards, Christian Ronald.Behar_Aldana@alcatel-lucent.es wrote: > > I’m receiving a “-“ character in a modify command using Megaco edition > 1. In this RFC I do not find any reference to any document that > indicates this is a valid character to be used. > > In H.248_39 there is an indication on how to use this wildcard in a > SDP message but as I understand it applies to Megaco version 3 and > should not be implemented in version 1. Is this correct? > > > !/1 [10.243.22.194]:2944 > T=370380785{C=6{MF=P2{M{O{MO=SR,RV=OFF,RG=OFF,tdmc/ec=ON}},E=369100552{al/*},SG{}},MF=E65540{M{O{MO=SR,RV=OFF,RG=OFF},L{v=0 > > c=IN IP4 - > m=audio - RTP/AVP 8 > a=ptime:20 > },R{v=0 > c=IN IP4 10.10.2.2 > m=audio 49306 RTP/AVP 8 > a=ptime:20 > }}}}} > > regards > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jan 16 19:28:03 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6yei-0008JH-49; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:27:56 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6yeg-0008Iw-70 for megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:27:54 -0500 Received: from omta02sl.mx.bigpond.com ([144.140.93.154]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H6yed-00073H-6o for megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:27:54 -0500 Received: from oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com ([203.51.180.248]) by omta02sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070117002748.SJVC17746.omta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com>; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:27:48 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [203.51.180.248]) by oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070117002748.VZTJ10618.oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com@[127.0.0.1]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:27:48 +0000 Message-ID: <45AD6D83.8070303@nteczone.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:27:47 +1100 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD)" Subject: Re: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor References: <80CD20FB3811A3458CA92048591886AAB0FC00@esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <80CD20FB3811A3458CA92048591886AAB0FC00@esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at oaamta02sl.mx.bigpond.com from [203.51.180.248] using ID cngroves@bigpond.net.au at Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:27:46 +0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 41c17b4b16d1eedaa8395c26e9a251c4 Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hello Arturo, H.248 doesn't talk about topology and the multiplex termination. The multiplex termination may be referenced in the topology triple but I think more of the issue is what is the behaviour? It is special because its really sitting in the middle of the context. ie. the media/data actually leaves the MG via other terminations. If monitoring is needed then these other terminations could be monitored. What function/service are you trying to achieve that can't be done without this? Regards, Christian > -----Original Message----- > From: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) > [mailto:arturo.martin-de-nicolas@ericsson.com] > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:45 PM > To: megaco@ietf.org > Subject: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor > > Hello, > > I have a question concerning a multiplexing termination, i.e. a > termination with a mux descriptor. In the H.248.1 model (see 6.2) the > multiplexing termination is connected on one side to the bearer > termination or terminations representing the multiplexed stream, and on > the other side to the bearer termination or terminations representing > the demultiplexed (separated) streams, e.g. audio and video. > > My question is: in addition to these connections, may the multiplexing > termination be also connected to some monitoring terminations, i.e. via > one-way connections? > > Example: > > Context C1 with audio stream S1, video stream S2, and multiplexed stream > S0. > > Multiplexed stream: T1 -> Stream S0 > > Multiplexing termination: Tmux (muxdescriptor=H.223{T1}) -> Stream S0, > S1 and S2 > > Demultiplexed streams: T3 -> Stream S1 and S2 > > > Is it possible to add T1b to the context with the following topology? > > Topology {(*, T1b, Isolate), (Tmux, T1b, oneway)}, Add (T1, Stream S0) > > As I see it, this could in principle work. 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[127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H75Ck-0007JM-BG; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:27:30 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H75Cj-0007Ha-31 for Megaco@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:27:29 -0500 Received: from mailrelay2.alcatel.de ([194.113.59.96]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H75Cg-0006pw-Vp for Megaco@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:27:28 -0500 Received: from demail05.netfr.alcatel.fr (demail05.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.182.205]) by mailrelay2.alcatel.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/ICT) with ESMTP id l0H7RM5R016869; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:27:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1168961674.10902.14.camel@m38> Subject: Re: [Megaco] ISDN TerminationID To: Ronald.Behar_Aldana@alcatel-lucent.es X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5 September 26, 2003 Message-ID: From: Albrecht.Schwarz@alcatel-lucent.de Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:27:20 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DEMAIL05/DE/ALCATEL(Release 5.0.13aHF163 | June 23, 2005) at 01/17/2007 08:27:21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 149.204.45.73 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ff03b0075c3fc728d7d60a15b4ee1ad2 Cc: Megaco@ietf.org, Ronald.Behar_Aldana@alcatel-lucent.es X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Do agree to Terry in case of a MG with B channels as solely type of physical Terminations. However, 100% ISDN B channels is rather the exeptional case and not the general case for MG deployments in real PSTN/ISDN environments. Saying that, such an Residential/Access MG must support in addition also analog lines and/or be capable in differing between ISDN BRI's and PRI's. >From that perspective, a "pre-fix" in the TerminationID could be very beneficial. Such a Termination naming scheme is e.g. defined in ETSI ES 283 002, the H.248 RAGW Profile Version 1. Below an excerpt. - Albrecht ETSI ES 283 002 V1.1.1 (2005-06) PSTN/ISDN Emulation Subsystem (PES); NGN Release 1 H.248 Profile for controlling Access and Residentail Gateways 5.6.1 Termination names The termination ID structure is provisioned in the MGC and MG and is known by the MG and the MGC at or before start up. A hierarchical naming structure is recommended for physical terminations. For example, the naming convention for physical terminations representing analog lines could be defined as follows: al/// Where, "al/" is a fixed prefix, , and are non-zero integer values. According to this naming scheme, an analog line connected on port 2 of card 1 in subrack 22 would be referred to as al/22/1/2. A similar structure may also be used for ISDN Basic Access and Primary Rate Access, using different prefixes: "ba/" for Basic Access and "pra/" for Primary Rate Access. In such cases, the naming structure shall end with a component identifying a B channel. For example the naming convention for physical terminations representing ISDN Basic Accesses may be defined as follows: ba//// Where, "ba/" is a fixed prefix, , and are non-zero integer values and shall uniquely identify each of the 2 B channels. According to this naming scheme, an ISDN Basic Access B channel number 1 connected on port 7 of card 3 in subrack 15 would be referred to as ba/15/3/7/1. Similarly the naming convention for physical terminations representing ISDN Primary Rate Accesses may be defined as follows: pra//// Where, "pra/" is a fixed prefix, , and are non-zero integer values and shall uniquely identify each of the ISDN-PRA B channels. The channel number shall be in the range 1 to 15 or 17 to 31 which identifies the time slot on the E1 used for transporting the "B" channel. According to this naming scheme, an ISDN Primary Rate Access B channel carried in Time Slot 20 connected on port 3 of card 9 in subrack 5 would be referred to as pra/5/9/3/20. Terry Howe cc: Megaco@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Megaco] ISDN TerminatioID 16.01.2007 16:34 Please respond to terry On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 16:06 +0100, Ronald.Behar_Aldana@alcatel-lucent.es wrote: > > I would like to know if there is a standard name to be used by B > channels of a ISDN port when the Megaco interface has to handle them. What ever is convenient for the implementation, so what ever can be converted easily and looked up in a port map. 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the beginning of a series of scrapes. just my luck! of course afterit = off this moment, you audacious boy! what would your father say"don't be = too sure of that, ma'am."
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like to bounce up like a hot chestnut and hit somebody. hundred = little paupers in a city almshouse, besides saving magdalens andus a = boost, please. stop howling, maud, and come home. you bring the = machine,dan heard mrs. bhaer sigh, and he wanted to ask
said will, loudly.  narrow escapes, and this was my last = chance; i 've lost it, and now there  as good as new" answered = jack, joyfully, "and
yourself engaged," - with which satisfactory remark the little man = vanished

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them, and let me know often."  stern father bestows her = hand,"  nicer if i knew what we were working for," she said = demurely, as she scattered
hands in a gentlemanly manner, but amy kissed both the aunts, and the = girls
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1H7AM7-0005ED-0e; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:57:31 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7AM5-0005At-2b for megaco@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:57:29 -0500 Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.60]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7AM0-0005GM-Af for megaco@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:57:29 -0500 Received: from esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.124]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id BBCB84F0081; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:57:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.3]) by esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:57:19 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:57:18 +0100 Message-ID: <80CD20FB3811A3458CA92048591886AAB97AEF@esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <45AD6D83.8070303@nteczone.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor Thread-Index: Acc5zlNG9nM8Q9+5SLu438WMBN64IwAWBo1w From: "Arturo Martin De Nicolas $AC/EDD$" To: "Christian Groves" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2007 12:57:19.0612 (UTC) FILETIME=[05AC03C0:01C73A37] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9a2be21919e71dc6faef12b370c4ecf5 Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hi Christian, I agree with you that best would be to monitor from the other terminations (T1 or T3) in the example below. But in some cases, example, CS-IMS Gateway, during Handover on the CS side, this would lead to having to insert a new mux termination in the context: one in the main connection, one in the monitoring branch, which is less desirable. But actually for this handover case there is a further complication. At HO we have a context with a bothway connection, and a one-way connection. At a certain point, these two connections have to be swaped: the one-way becomes bothway, and the bothway becomes one-way. Finally, at the third step, the one-way connection is released. If we take the one-way branch from the mux termination, as I was suggesting below, there is no way to do the swaping, right? You would send a MOD on the Mux termination, now indicating T1b in the Mux descriptor, but according to H.248 this would lead to the automatic subtraction of T1, which is not was we wanted, as we still need to keep the connection (Tmux,T1) one-way until the HO is completed. Best regards, Arturo -----Original Message----- From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:28 AM To: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) Cc: megaco ietf Subject: Re: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor Hello Arturo, H.248 doesn't talk about topology and the multiplex termination. The multiplex termination may be referenced in the topology triple but I think more of the issue is what is the behaviour? It is special because its really sitting in the middle of the context. ie. the media/data actually leaves the MG via other terminations. If monitoring is needed then these other terminations could be monitored. What function/service are you trying to achieve that can't be done without this? Regards, Christian > -----Original Message----- > From: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD)=20 > [mailto:arturo.martin-de-nicolas@ericsson.com] > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:45 PM > To: megaco@ietf.org > Subject: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor > > Hello, > > I have a question concerning a multiplexing termination, i.e. a=20 > termination with a mux descriptor. In the H.248.1 model (see 6.2) the=20 > multiplexing termination is connected on one side to the bearer=20 > termination or terminations representing the multiplexed stream, and=20 > on the other side to the bearer termination or terminations=20 > representing the demultiplexed (separated) streams, e.g. audio and video. > > My question is: in addition to these connections, may the multiplexing > termination be also connected to some monitoring terminations, i.e.=20 > via one-way connections? > > Example: > > Context C1 with audio stream S1, video stream S2, and multiplexed=20 > stream S0. > > Multiplexed stream: T1 -> Stream S0 > > Multiplexing termination: Tmux (muxdescriptor=3DH.223{T1}) -> Stream = S0, > S1 and S2 > > Demultiplexed streams: T3 -> Stream S1 and S2 > > > Is it possible to add T1b to the context with the following topology? > > Topology {(*, T1b, Isolate), (Tmux, T1b, oneway)}, Add (T1, Stream S0) > > As I see it, this could in principle work. However, as the=20 > multiplexing termination is special, I wonder if this resulting context is legal. > > Regards, > Arturo > =20 > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > > > > > =20 _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jan 17 08:47:47 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7B8i-0006PP-Tr; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:47:45 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H70A7-0007cZ-BQ for megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:04:27 -0500 Received: from cronus.convedia.com ([209.139.229.35]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H70A6-0007Uj-O3 for megaco@ietf.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:04:27 -0500 Received: from slvns003.convedia.com (unknown [192.168.208.40]) by cronus.convedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5F131BC6; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by slvns003.convedia.com (Postfix, from userid 403) id 0EE13F7C007; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ROCKWREN (rockwren.radisys.com [172.20.12.102]) by slvns003.convedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B88F7C006; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:04:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Alvin Chubbs" To: "'Christian Groves'" Subject: RE: [Megaco] RE: Base Root Package Interpretation Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:04:14 -0800 Organization: RadiSys Canada, Inc. Message-ID: <029701c739db$cc197530$660c14ac@radisys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acc4/5rnX1zXka6WRg+K8hT2VEdv8AAuFvXg x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <45AC120E.9040909@nteczone.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b8f3559805f7873076212d6f63ee803e X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:47:44 -0500 Cc: megaco@ietf.org X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alvin.Chubbs@RadiSys.com List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Christian, Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to Dave's posting. This is an issue that Dave and I have discussed a number of times and we appreciate that somebody else has taken an interest in clarifying the expected behaviour. With respect to your question about specific changes to H.248.1 text, I attempted to identify the relevant portions of text in Annex D of H.248.1 as follows: a) D.1.3 - "Implementations SHALL ensure that the algorithm used to calculate retranmission timing performs an exponentially increasing backoff..." b) D.1.3 - "One possibility is to use the algorithm implemented in TCP-IP, which uses two variables: The average acknowledgement delay (AAD), estimated through an exponentially smoothed average of the observed delays..." c) D.1.4 - "Entities that receive a Transaction Pending shall switch to a different repetition timer for repeating terminations." This had a subsequent comment about ProvisionalResponseTimerValue in the original H.248.1 specification but I believe this line has been removed in the Implementor's Guide. After looking again at this text, I'm not so sure that our assumptions below are correct. In any case, I will provide several possible interpretations of the retransmission algorithm and indicate where I feel they disagree with the above text. Possible retransmission algorithms: 1) Initially use algorithm similar to TCP-IP (estimate delays via observed delays). When ProvisionalResponseTimerValue received from MGC then use fixed ProvisionalResponseTimerValue instead of TCP-IP algorithm. - this was our assumption below. We assumed that ProvisionalResponseTimerValue was not mandatory. - this appears to disagree with statements a) and c) above when using the fixed ProvisionalResponseTimerValue 2) Use a fixed mandatory ProvisionalResponseTimerValue all the time with initial value being provisioned - this appears to be what you are suggesting (please correct me if my understanding is wrong) - this also appears to disagree with statements a) and c) above - also, this seems to indicate that statement b) in the H.248.1 specification is meaningless / misleading 3) Use exponentially increasing timer with starting value being a mandatory ProvisionalResponseTimerValue - this would be a variation on algorithm 2) that would satisfy the H.248.1 requirement in statement a) 4) Use algorithm similar to TCP-IP until first Transaction Pending received, then use fixed ProvisionalResponseTimerValue - we know of at least one implementation of this particular algorithm - this appears to agree with all of the statements above from the H.248.1 specification Regards, Alvin Alvin Chubbs RadiSys Canada Inc. Tel: 604-918-6307 Fax: 604-918-6400 -----Original Message----- From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:45 PM To: Dave.Stephens@RadiSys.com Cc: megaco@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Megaco] RE: Base Root Package Interpretation Hello Dave, Yes this is the correct list for questions. Given the usual December rush people don't have a lot of extra time so this may have been lost (either that or you were on the wrong one of Santa's lists :). ) Please see my responses below. Regards, Christian Dave Stephens wrote: > I posted the email below back in December and so far have had no response. > Could someone please review the request and let me know if: > A. This is indeed the correct place to post such question. > B. If A is yes if someone would be able to take the time to answer it > or propose where we might be able to gather more information to allows > us to clarify this issue. > > Thanks in advance, > > Dave > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dave Stephens > Team Leader VXML Team > RadiSys Canada Inc. > Ph: 604 918 6381 > Fax: 604 918 6400 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *From:* Dave Stephens [mailto:Dave.Stephens@RadiSys.com] > *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2006 3:01 PM > *To:* 'megaco@ietf.org' > *Subject:* Base Root Package Interpretation > > We are currently working through implementing the Base Root Package > and would appreciate hearing your interpretation of how these elements > should be applied to the transaction resend algorithm. Our interest is > only in the MG side although this would apply equally to the MGC. We > are using UDP/ALF. > > We reviewed the previous posting below by Jerker Zetterlund and the > follow up discussion: > http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/megaco/current/msg06418.html > > In particular, we are interested in this portion of the posting: > >> When MGC is responder: > >> - MGC sends pending at the latest at expiry of MGC timer > "MGCNormalExecutionTime". The "MGCNormalExecutionTime" is started when > the transaction request is received in MGC. > > >> - MG resends transaction request if it did not receive a pending or > reply at expiry of MG timer "MGCProvisioalResponseTimer". The > "MGCProvisionalResponseTimer" is started >> when transaction request > is sent from MG and when pending is recevied from MGC. > > Subsequent discussion indicated there might be some follow up in SG16. > However, we have not seen any subsequent clarification of this issue. > > Our interpretation is that in the absence of the Base Root Package, or > the setting of elements in the package, the retry algorithm as defined > in H.248.1 Appendix D .1.3 is used . In particular, "Implementations > SHALL ensure that the algorithm used to calculate retransmission > timing performs an exponentially increasing backoff of the > retransmission timeout for each retransmission or repetition after the > first one." [CNG] To begin with, implementation of the base root package is pretty much mandatory. You don't have to set the properties through signalling but these base property values should be at least set via provisioning. Once the provisional response timer is exceeded Annex D.1.3 would come into play. > > The Base Root package defines the MGCProvisionalResponseTimer element. > This value is calculated by the MGC and represents the time the MGC > would like the MG to wait before retransmitting requests that have > received neither a provisional response nor a reply to the actual > outstanding transaction. The value is constant and replaces the rate > of retransmission as calculated by the back-off algorithm. It is in > effect as soon as it is set. One of the ambiguities here is when does > this value take effect. Does it take effect as soon as it is set or > does it take effect only after the receipt of a provisional response? [CNG] I always assumed it took effect as soon as it was set. > Our assumption is that the behaviour associated with the > MGCProvisionalResponseTimer is: > 1. A timer is started for the MGCProvisionalResponseTimer period after > the initial transaction request has been sent. > 2. If it expires without receipt of a provisional response or > transaction reply then the transaction request is resent and the timer > restarted for the same period 3. If a provisional response is received > the timer is stopped and restarted for the same period. > 4. If the transaction reply is received it is stopped and not restarted. [CNG] I agree with your assumptions. > > Is anybody aware of any subsequent clarification of this issue? [CNG] Any specific suggestions of changes to the text of H.248.1? > > Thanks, > > Dave > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dave Stephens > Team Leader VXML Team > RadiSys Canada Inc. > Ph: 604 918 6381 > Fax: 604 918 6400 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jan 17 09:08:39 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7BSv-00005f-0M; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:08:37 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7BSt-0008VE-1L for megaco@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:08:35 -0500 Received: from mailrelay2.alcatel.de ([194.113.59.96]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7BSr-0007G8-9T for megaco@ietf.org; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:08:35 -0500 Received: from demail05.netfr.alcatel.fr (demail05.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.182.205]) by mailrelay2.alcatel.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/ICT) with ESMTP id l0HE8UJT031856; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:08:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: <45A43B5F.6080209@nteczone.com> Subject: Re: [Megaco] forcing T.38 MGC transitioning method To: Christian Groves X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5 September 26, 2003 Message-ID: From: Albrecht.Schwarz@alcatel-lucent.de Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:08:29 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DEMAIL05/DE/ALCATEL(Release 5.0.13aHF163 | June 23, 2005) at 01/17/2007 15:08:30 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 149.204.45.73 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3a331e4a192f4d33f18e6f8376287cf6 Cc: megaco@ietf.org X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Sorry for late reply. Yes, an Event for H.248.2 was considered ("think it was H.248.2 ctyp/dtone") to be used for (b): > [Background: prefered method for TISPAN is autonomous transitionin= g, and > prefered method for 3GPP is MGC-strict controlled. Both methods co= uld be > merged by using autonomous as default method plus an additional > notification of the MGC, allowing the MGC to "overwrite" the defau= lt > method. You may find more details in TISPAN docs on WI03047 betwee= n > TISPAN#8 and #9 meetings. E.g. 08TD241 "H.248 Trunking GW Profile = - > Voiceband Data (VBD) Service", or ACWG3-H248 TD08 "H.248 Trunking = GW > Profile - Progress on =A7 5.17.2.3 VBD Procedures"] Briefly: 1. MG enabled for autonomous mode per default 2. MG may start in voice mode 2. Successfully detected VBD and/or fax event leads to 2.1 autonomous state transitioning in the MG AND 2.2 notification of the MGC (based on H.248.2) 3. Possible MGC actions: 3.1 None ("MG mode remains unmodified") 3.2 Mode modification ("strict control scenario ...") ... Like to note that above scenario is NOT yet documented in any profile specification. - Albrecht = =20 Christian Groves = =20 cc: megaco@ietf= .org, raphael.tryster@vocaltec.comraphael.tryster =20 Subject: Re: [Megaco= ] forcing T.38 MGC transitioning method =20 10.01.2007 02:03 = =20 = =20 Hello All, Perhaps H.248.2 provides some methods for the determination of who does= the transitioning ? e.g. clause 8.1.7 MG Responsible for Call Discrimination Signalling Regards, Christian Albrecht.Schwarz@alcatel-lucent.de wrote: > Like to go back to the initial problem: > How may be BOTH T.38 TRANSITIONING METHODs supported at an H.248 Control > Association? > (-> means that the MG and/or MGC is able to support both modes) > > The method negotiation/determination could be done on > a) LD/RD level with correspondent SDP settings, or > b) as a behavioural specification within a profile (i.e. dedicated > procedures). > > The possible solution for (a) is discussed so far in this thread. > I'd like to remind that (b) was also already investigated within the > attempt of an aligned 3GPP/TISPAN TGW profile (=3D H.248 Mn profile(s= )). > > [Background: prefered method for TISPAN is autonomous transitionin= g, and > prefered method for 3GPP is MGC-strict controlled. Both methods co= uld be > merged by using autonomous as default method plus an additional > notification of the MGC, allowing the MGC to "overwrite" the defau= lt > method. You may find more details in TISPAN docs on WI03047 betwee= n > TISPAN#8 and #9 meetings. E.g. 08TD241 "H.248 Trunking GW Profile = - > Voiceband Data (VBD) Service", or ACWG3-H248 TD08 "H.248 Trunking = GW > Profile - Progress on =A7 5.17.2.3 VBD Procedures"] > > - Albrecht > > > > "Tom-PT Taylor" > > om> cc: megaco@ietf.o= rg > Subject: Re: [Megaco] forcing T.38 MGC transitioning method > 02.01.2007 19:57 > > > > > > You are doomed, I think. Because the MGC is in control and can > manipulate the signalling, MG1 has no idea what MG2 signalled. And wh= at > I meant in my previous message was that the MGC would set the port to= 0 > in its signalling while sending both the audio and the image sessions= . > At a later time it could activate the transition by sending a CHOOSE = for > the port. > > Raphael Tryster wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> Are you referring to this? >> >> "Also, because MG1 does not support the T.38 Autonomous Transitionin= g >> method for transitioning between VoIP and FoIP, it omits the image m= edia >> descriptor line all together (alternatively, it could have set the T= .38 >> port to 0)". >> >> Do you mean that MG1 could send a local descriptor with m=3Dimage 0 = udptl >> t38 to the MGC, and the MGC could pass that line on to MG2 in the re= mote >> descriptor? Presumably, MG2 should then behave the same as if the >> m=3Dimage line were absent. But both these methods seem to suffer fr= om the >> disadvantage that the MGC does not learn whether MG2 supports T.38 >> Autonomous Transitioning. That's why I suggested that the MGC might= >> want to send both m=3Daudio and m=3Dimage with ReserveGroup=3DOff. = But on >> second thoughts, that wouldn't yield the desired information either.= >> >> My interest in this is from the MG side. That is, I assume there is= >> some other formulation that the MGC would use to discover if the sec= ond >> MG supports T.38 Autonomous Transitioning, and I would like to know = what >> it is so I can handle it properly. >> >> Raphael Tryster >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@nortel.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:59 PM >> To: Raphael Tryster >> Cc: megaco@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Megaco] forcing T.38 MGC transitioning method >> >> Yes. I wasn't thinking about alternative session descriptions. >> >> Back to your original question: how about setting the port to zero i= n >> the unwanted session? >> >> Raphael Tryster wrote: >> >>> Multiple m=3D lines, but same stream, as in this example from T.38.= >>> >> This >> >>> is standard Megaco, isn't it? >>> >>> MEGACO/1 [123.123.123.4]:55555 >>> Transaction =3D 11 { >>> Context =3D $ { >>> Add =3D DS0/1/1 { >>> Events =3D 1 {al/on, ctyp/dtone } >>> }, ; SCN termination prepared to listen for tones >>> Add =3D $ { >>> Media { >>> Stream =3D 1 { >>> LocalControl { Mode=3DReceiveOnly, ReservedGroup=3DOn, >>> ReservedValue=3DOn}, >>> Local { >>> v=3D0 >>> c=3DIN IP4 $ >>> m=3Daudio $ RTP/AVP 18 0 >>> v=3D0 >>> c=3DIN IP4 $ >>> m=3Dimage $ udptl t38 >>> }; IP termination for audio >>> } >>> } >>> } >>> } >>> } >>> >>> >>> Raphael Tryster >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@nortel.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:29 PM >>> To: Raphael Tryster >>> Cc: megaco@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [Megaco] forcing T.38 MGC transitioning method >>> >>> Can you really have a local descriptor with both audio and image >>> components? I would expect that this would require multiple m=3D li= nes, >>> and hence apply to multiple streams. >>> >>> Raphael Tryster wrote: >>> >>>> In the examples in T.38 Appendix III, the MGC tries to find out if= >>>> >> the >> >>>> MG supports autonomous transitioning or not, and behaves according= ly. >>>> But there is potentially a third case that is not illustrated - wh= ere >>>> the MG supports autonomous transitioning, but the MGC wants to >>>> >> control >> >>>> the transition itself anyway. How does the MGC indicate this >>>> unambiguously? Is it by the absence of an "m=3Dimage" line in the= >>>> >>> remote >>> >>>> descriptor? >>>> >>>> If so, how does the MGC cause this line to be absent? Clearly, it= >>>> >> can >> >>>> remove it if it received it from the other MG. Can it also cause = the >>>> other MG not to supply it by setting ReservedGroup=3DOff? When an= MG >>>> >>> sees >>> >>>> a local descriptor with both audio and image components, and >>>> ReservedGroup=3DOff, how does it decide whether to return only aud= io or >>>> only image? >>>> >>>> Raphael Tryster >>>> >>>> >> ********************************************************************= **** >> >>> ********************** >>> >>>> This e-mail contains confidential, privileged or proprietary >>>> >>> information to VocalTec Communications. >>> >>>> If you received this messege by mistake, please inform us and then= >>>> >>> delete the original and all copies. >>> >>>> *** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals, and malicious >>>> >>> content. *** >>> >>> >> ********************************************************************= **** >> >>> ********************** >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Megaco mailing list >>>> Megaco@ietf.org >>>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >>>> >>>> >> ********************************************************************= **** >> ********************** >> >>> This e-mail contains confidential, privileged or proprietary >>> >> information to VocalTec Communications. >> >>> If you received this messege by mistake, please inform us and then >>> >> delete the original and all copies. >> >>> *** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals, and malicious >>> >> content. *** >> ********************************************************************= **** >> ********************** >> > ***********************************************************************= *********************** > > >> This e-mail contains confidential, privileged or proprietary informa= tion >> > to VocalTec Communications. > >> If you received this messege by mistake, please inform us and then delete >> > the original and all copies. > >> *** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals, and malicious content. >> > *** > > ***********************************************************************= *********************** > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > > > > > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco = _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From rstolzezb@dingoes8mybaby.com Wed Jan 17 10:09:45 2007 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7CQ5-00014i-FT for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; 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Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:05:13 +0000 Message-ID: <45AEB9B3.1010905@nteczone.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:05:07 +1100 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD)" Subject: Re: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor References: <80CD20FB3811A3458CA92048591886AAB97AEF@esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <80CD20FB3811A3458CA92048591886AAB97AEF@esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at oaamta01sl.mx.bigpond.com from [139.168.11.183] using ID cngroves@bigpond.net.au at Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:05:10 +0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2beba50d0fcdeee5f091c59f204d4365 Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hello Arturo, I'm a bit confused by your first paragraph. If monitoring is done on the CS and Packet side terminations why do you need to put a new mux termination in? I can see in the case of HO that you would add a new Tmux for T1b. A think this is much cleaner as the behaviour is undefined if T1 and T1b were added to the same mux. Also monitoring a Mux termination, what will you get multiplexed stream, de-multiplexed streams or both? Regards, Christian Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) wrote: > Hi Christian, > > I agree with you that best would be to monitor from the other > terminations (T1 or T3) in the example below. But in some cases, > example, CS-IMS Gateway, during Handover on the CS side, this would > lead to having to insert a new mux termination in the context: one in > the main connection, one in the monitoring branch, which is less > desirable. > > But actually for this handover case there is a further complication. At > HO we have a context with a bothway connection, and a one-way > connection. At a certain point, these two connections have to be swaped: > the one-way becomes bothway, and the bothway becomes one-way. Finally, > at the third step, the one-way connection is released. If we take the > one-way branch from the mux termination, as I was suggesting below, > there is no way to do the swaping, right? You would send a MOD on the > Mux termination, now indicating T1b in the Mux descriptor, but according > to H.248 this would lead to the automatic subtraction of T1, which is > not was we wanted, as we still need to keep the connection (Tmux,T1) > one-way until the HO is completed. > > Best regards, > Arturo > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:28 AM > To: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) > Cc: megaco ietf > Subject: Re: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor > > Hello Arturo, > > H.248 doesn't talk about topology and the multiplex termination. The > multiplex termination may be referenced in the topology triple but I > think more of the issue is what is the behaviour? It is special because > its really sitting in the middle of the context. ie. the media/data > actually leaves the MG via other terminations. If monitoring is needed > then these other terminations could be monitored. > > What function/service are you trying to achieve that can't be done > without this? > > Regards, Christian > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) >> [mailto:arturo.martin-de-nicolas@ericsson.com] >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:45 PM >> To: megaco@ietf.org >> Subject: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor >> >> Hello, >> >> I have a question concerning a multiplexing termination, i.e. a >> termination with a mux descriptor. In the H.248.1 model (see 6.2) the >> multiplexing termination is connected on one side to the bearer >> termination or terminations representing the multiplexed stream, and >> on the other side to the bearer termination or terminations >> representing the demultiplexed (separated) streams, e.g. audio and >> > video. > >> My question is: in addition to these connections, may the multiplexing >> > > >> termination be also connected to some monitoring terminations, i.e. >> via one-way connections? >> >> Example: >> >> Context C1 with audio stream S1, video stream S2, and multiplexed >> stream S0. >> >> Multiplexed stream: T1 -> Stream S0 >> >> Multiplexing termination: Tmux (muxdescriptor=H.223{T1}) -> Stream S0, >> S1 and S2 >> >> Demultiplexed streams: T3 -> Stream S1 and S2 >> >> >> Is it possible to add T1b to the context with the following topology? >> >> Topology {(*, T1b, Isolate), (Tmux, T1b, oneway)}, Add (T1, Stream S0) >> >> As I see it, this could in principle work. However, as the >> multiplexing termination is special, I wonder if this resulting >> > context is legal. > >> Regards, >> Arturo >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 18 03:28:15 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7Scr-0005fY-ST; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:28:01 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7Scq-0005f9-72 for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:28:00 -0500 Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.60]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7Scl-0000wH-Ae for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:27:59 -0500 Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 7BA69207A0; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:23:49 +0100 (CET) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3c-b16a6bb000003b9d-6d-45af2e953ba3 Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.122]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 6138D206FB; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:23:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.3]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:23:49 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:23:48 +0100 Message-ID: <80CD20FB3811A3458CA92048591886AAB982E3@esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <45AEB9B3.1010905@nteczone.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor Thread-Index: Acc6lFdl9rOpplddQVGptPW6LIoETgAQ7ZJA From: "Arturo Martin De Nicolas $AC/EDD$" To: "Christian Groves" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2007 08:23:49.0035 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA9E6FB0:01C73AD9] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 827a2a57ca7ab0837847220f447e8d56 Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hi Christian, In one case I was referring to one monitoring branch created specifically for the HO, so I think we agree that in that case we would need two Tmux terminations, right? There could be also some cases for interception where you for some reason would like to start the monitoring branch from, say, the packet termination, but the path to the Monitoring Centre is CS, so that would also require an extra Tmux. Thus I was trying to explore ways to avoid these extra Tmux, but I guess the conclusion is that taking a monitoring branch directly from the Tmux termination is not recommended/allowed. Do you agree? You are right, which side of the mux would be monitored is unclear.=20 Thanks for your clarification. Arturo -----Original Message----- From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:05 AM To: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) Cc: megaco ietf Subject: Re: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor Hello Arturo, I'm a bit confused by your first paragraph. If monitoring is done on the CS and Packet side terminations why do you need to put a new mux termination in? I can see in the case of HO that you would add a new Tmux for T1b. A think this is much cleaner as the behaviour is undefined if T1 and T1b were added to the same mux. Also monitoring a Mux termination, what will you get multiplexed stream, de-multiplexed streams or both? Regards, Christian Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) wrote: > Hi Christian, > > I agree with you that best would be to monitor from the other=20 > terminations (T1 or T3) in the example below. But in some cases,=20 > example, CS-IMS Gateway, during Handover on the CS side, this would=20 > lead to having to insert a new mux termination in the context: one in=20 > the main connection, one in the monitoring branch, which is less=20 > desirable. > > But actually for this handover case there is a further complication.=20 > At HO we have a context with a bothway connection, and a one-way=20 > connection. At a certain point, these two connections have to be swaped: > the one-way becomes bothway, and the bothway becomes one-way. Finally, > at the third step, the one-way connection is released. If we take the=20 > one-way branch from the mux termination, as I was suggesting below,=20 > there is no way to do the swaping, right? You would send a MOD on the=20 > Mux termination, now indicating T1b in the Mux descriptor, but=20 > according to H.248 this would lead to the automatic subtraction of T1, > which is not was we wanted, as we still need to keep the connection=20 > (Tmux,T1) one-way until the HO is completed. > > Best regards, > Arturo > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:28 AM > To: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) > Cc: megaco ietf > Subject: Re: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor > > Hello Arturo, > > H.248 doesn't talk about topology and the multiplex termination. The=20 > multiplex termination may be referenced in the topology triple but I=20 > think more of the issue is what is the behaviour? It is special=20 > because its really sitting in the middle of the context. ie. the=20 > media/data actually leaves the MG via other terminations. If=20 > monitoring is needed then these other terminations could be monitored. > > What function/service are you trying to achieve that can't be done=20 > without this? > > Regards, Christian > > > =20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD)=20 >> [mailto:arturo.martin-de-nicolas@ericsson.com] >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:45 PM >> To: megaco@ietf.org >> Subject: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor >> >> Hello, >> >> I have a question concerning a multiplexing termination, i.e. a=20 >> termination with a mux descriptor. In the H.248.1 model (see 6.2) the >> multiplexing termination is connected on one side to the bearer=20 >> termination or terminations representing the multiplexed stream, and=20 >> on the other side to the bearer termination or terminations=20 >> representing the demultiplexed (separated) streams, e.g. audio and >> =20 > video. > =20 >> My question is: in addition to these connections, may the=20 >> multiplexing >> =20 > > =20 >> termination be also connected to some monitoring terminations, i.e.=20 >> via one-way connections? >> >> Example: >> >> Context C1 with audio stream S1, video stream S2, and multiplexed=20 >> stream S0. >> >> Multiplexed stream: T1 -> Stream S0 >> >> Multiplexing termination: Tmux (muxdescriptor=3DH.223{T1}) -> Stream=20 >> S0, >> S1 and S2 >> >> Demultiplexed streams: T3 -> Stream S1 and S2 >> >> >> Is it possible to add T1b to the context with the following topology? >> >> Topology {(*, T1b, Isolate), (Tmux, T1b, oneway)}, Add (T1, Stream=20 >> S0) >> >> As I see it, this could in principle work. However, as the=20 >> multiplexing termination is special, I wonder if this resulting >> =20 > context is legal. > =20 >> Regards, >> Arturo >> =20 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> >> >> >> >> =20 >> =20 > > > > > > =20 _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 18 03:53:17 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7T1A-0004je-OB; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:53:08 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7T19-0004jK-4a for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:53:07 -0500 Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7T14-0004Fq-7J for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:53:07 -0500 Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 7C44220550; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:52:53 +0100 (CET) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-a98edbb000002522-77-45af35650a2e Received: from esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.124]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 6314C2058D; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:52:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.3]) by esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:52:47 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:52:46 +0100 Message-ID: <80CD20FB3811A3458CA92048591886AAB9839E@esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <80CD20FB3811A3458CA92048591886AAB982E3@esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor Thread-Index: Acc6lFdl9rOpplddQVGptPW6LIoETgAQ7ZJAAAFIRZA= From: "Arturo Martin De Nicolas $AC/EDD$" To: "Christian Groves" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2007 08:52:47.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[06F6D960:01C73ADE] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 86f85b2f88b0d50615aed44a7f9e33c7 Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Hi again, Sorry, I was bit too quick jumping into conclusions. About which side of the mux would be monitored: couldn't you determine that by specifying the wanted stream in the monitoring terminations? S0 in T1b, in the example below. Also topology can be applied to a particular stream. Regards, Arturo -----Original Message----- From: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) [mailto:arturo.martin-de-nicolas@ericsson.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:24 AM To: Christian Groves Cc: megaco ietf Subject: RE: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor Hi Christian, In one case I was referring to one monitoring branch created specifically for the HO, so I think we agree that in that case we would need two Tmux terminations, right? There could be also some cases for interception where you for some reason would like to start the monitoring branch from, say, the packet termination, but the path to the Monitoring Centre is CS, so that would also require an extra Tmux. Thus I was trying to explore ways to avoid these extra Tmux, but I guess the conclusion is that taking a monitoring branch directly from the Tmux termination is not recommended/allowed. Do you agree? You are right, which side of the mux would be monitored is unclear.=20 Thanks for your clarification. Arturo -----Original Message----- From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:05 AM To: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) Cc: megaco ietf Subject: Re: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor Hello Arturo, I'm a bit confused by your first paragraph. If monitoring is done on the CS and Packet side terminations why do you need to put a new mux termination in? I can see in the case of HO that you would add a new Tmux for T1b. A think this is much cleaner as the behaviour is undefined if T1 and T1b were added to the same mux. Also monitoring a Mux termination, what will you get multiplexed stream, de-multiplexed streams or both? Regards, Christian Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) wrote: > Hi Christian, > > I agree with you that best would be to monitor from the other=20 > terminations (T1 or T3) in the example below. But in some cases,=20 > example, CS-IMS Gateway, during Handover on the CS side, this would=20 > lead to having to insert a new mux termination in the context: one in=20 > the main connection, one in the monitoring branch, which is less=20 > desirable. > > But actually for this handover case there is a further complication.=20 > At HO we have a context with a bothway connection, and a one-way=20 > connection. At a certain point, these two connections have to be swaped: > the one-way becomes bothway, and the bothway becomes one-way. Finally, > at the third step, the one-way connection is released. If we take the=20 > one-way branch from the mux termination, as I was suggesting below,=20 > there is no way to do the swaping, right? You would send a MOD on the=20 > Mux termination, now indicating T1b in the Mux descriptor, but=20 > according to H.248 this would lead to the automatic subtraction of T1, > which is not was we wanted, as we still need to keep the connection > (Tmux,T1) one-way until the HO is completed. > > Best regards, > Arturo > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:28 AM > To: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) > Cc: megaco ietf > Subject: Re: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor > > Hello Arturo, > > H.248 doesn't talk about topology and the multiplex termination. The=20 > multiplex termination may be referenced in the topology triple but I=20 > think more of the issue is what is the behaviour? It is special=20 > because its really sitting in the middle of the context. ie. the=20 > media/data actually leaves the MG via other terminations. If=20 > monitoring is needed then these other terminations could be monitored. > > What function/service are you trying to achieve that can't be done=20 > without this? > > Regards, Christian > > > =20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD)=20 >> [mailto:arturo.martin-de-nicolas@ericsson.com] >> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:45 PM >> To: megaco@ietf.org >> Subject: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor >> >> Hello, >> >> I have a question concerning a multiplexing termination, i.e. a=20 >> termination with a mux descriptor. In the H.248.1 model (see 6.2) the >> multiplexing termination is connected on one side to the bearer=20 >> termination or terminations representing the multiplexed stream, and=20 >> on the other side to the bearer termination or terminations=20 >> representing the demultiplexed (separated) streams, e.g. audio and >> =20 > video. > =20 >> My question is: in addition to these connections, may the=20 >> multiplexing >> =20 > > =20 >> termination be also connected to some monitoring terminations, i.e.=20 >> via one-way connections? >> >> Example: >> >> Context C1 with audio stream S1, video stream S2, and multiplexed=20 >> stream S0. >> >> Multiplexed stream: T1 -> Stream S0 >> >> Multiplexing termination: Tmux (muxdescriptor=3DH.223{T1}) -> Stream=20 >> S0, >> S1 and S2 >> >> Demultiplexed streams: T3 -> Stream S1 and S2 >> >> >> Is it possible to add T1b to the context with the following topology? >> >> Topology {(*, T1b, Isolate), (Tmux, T1b, oneway)}, Add (T1, Stream >> S0) >> >> As I see it, this could in principle work. However, as the=20 >> multiplexing termination is special, I wonder if this resulting >> =20 > context is legal. > =20 >> Regards, >> Arturo >> =20 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> >> >> >> >> =20 >> =20 > > > > > > =20 _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 18 10:41:49 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7ZOU-0000bc-JR; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:41:38 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7ZOT-0000bQ-0c for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:41:37 -0500 Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.60]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7ZOP-0002vx-JV for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:41:36 -0500 Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 8452220AE9 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:40:27 +0100 (CET) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3c-afea3bb000003b9d-f2-45af94eb7e31 Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.122]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 7709420AE7 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:40:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw114.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.5]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:40:27 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:40:24 +0100 Message-ID: <63A23507A6F0C344BE6D60303E9441D9A70EEB@esealmw114.eemea.ericsson.se> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Echo control question Thread-Index: Acc666wanj2LwH68SiawR/dJbFh8mQAATrbwAAAsrGAAAFL8oAADQe3QAAY9nAA= From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E1s_K=E9rd=F4_=28IJ/ETH=29?= To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2007 15:40:27.0199 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9F104F0:01C73B16] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Subject: [Megaco] Echo control question X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Dear All, Please, imagine the following indication in a command request = (Add/Modify) in the LocalControlDescriptor: tdmc/ec =3D { on , off } This indicates that turning on an echo suppressor resource is supposed, = but it is also acceptable not doing that (when e.g. such resources are = exhausted in the MG). Whether the echo suppressor resource is = successfully turned on or not, could be indicated in the command reply = with a fully specified value ('tdmc/ec=3Don' , or 'tdmc/ec=3Doff').=20 The indication is following the syntax of 'alternativeValue' element = that is introduced in H.248.1 ABNF. The 'alternativeValue' is a kind of = overspecification on property values, so the H.248 rule that is = introduced in H.248.1 v2 =A77.1.1 is applicable: "... Overspecified parameters have a list of potential values. The list = order specifies the command initiator's order of preference of = selection. The command responder chooses one value from the offered list = and returns that value to the command initiator. ..." So, what is your opinion? This interpretation seems to be correct, = doesn't? Regards, Andras Kerdo Ericsson Hungary Ltd., R&D H-1037 Budapest, Laborc u. 1. 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See: http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/newslog/Trial+Period+For+Free+ITUT+Recommendations+Starts.aspx The H.248.x series recommendations can be found at: http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-H/en Happy downloading! Christian _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 18 18:07:57 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7gMP-0005tI-GF; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:07:57 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7gMO-0005tB-Db for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:07:56 -0500 Received: from omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com ([144.140.93.156]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7gML-0002xd-Qp for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:07:56 -0500 Received: from oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com ([143.238.14.57]) by omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070118230750.EGQB2480.omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com>; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:07:50 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [143.238.14.57]) by oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20070118230749.EDRO5602.oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@[127.0.0.1]>; Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:07:49 +0000 Message-ID: <45AFFDBF.6060109@nteczone.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:07:43 +1100 From: Christian Groves User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD)" Subject: Re: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor References: <80CD20FB3811A3458CA92048591886AAB9839E@esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <80CD20FB3811A3458CA92048591886AAB9839E@esealmw112.eemea.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at oaamta04sl.mx.bigpond.com from [143.238.14.57] using ID cngroves@bigpond.net.au at Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:07:42 +0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f884eb1d4ec5a230688d7edc526ea665 Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org G'Day Arturo, Yes I agree on the need for two muxs. With regards to the monitoring the problem I see is that the stream ids are not necessary unique. T1b could contain a stream 1 as well as T3 (and even T1). The demuxed streams are hidden from the rest of the context and the mux descriptor itself doesn't have any information on handling streams. So again I think its messy if we try to start using topology on mux terminations. Regards, Christian Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) wrote: > Hi again, > > Sorry, I was bit too quick jumping into conclusions. > > About which side of the mux would be monitored: couldn't you determine > that by specifying the wanted stream in the monitoring terminations? S0 > in T1b, in the example below. Also topology can be applied to a > particular stream. > > Regards, > Arturo > > -----Original Message----- > From: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) > [mailto:arturo.martin-de-nicolas@ericsson.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:24 AM > To: Christian Groves > Cc: megaco ietf > Subject: RE: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor > > Hi Christian, > > In one case I was referring to one monitoring branch created > specifically for the HO, so I think we agree that in that case we would > need two Tmux terminations, right? > > There could be also some cases for interception where you for some > reason would like to start the monitoring branch from, say, the packet > termination, but the path to the Monitoring Centre is CS, so that would > also require an extra Tmux. > > Thus I was trying to explore ways to avoid these extra Tmux, but I guess > the conclusion is that taking a monitoring branch directly from the Tmux > termination is not recommended/allowed. Do you agree? You are right, > which side of the mux would be monitored is unclear. > > Thanks for your clarification. > Arturo > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:05 AM > To: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) > Cc: megaco ietf > Subject: Re: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor > > Hello Arturo, > > I'm a bit confused by your first paragraph. If monitoring is done on the > CS and Packet side terminations why do you need to put a new mux > termination in? I can see in the case of HO that you would add a new > Tmux for T1b. A think this is much cleaner as the behaviour is undefined > if T1 and T1b were added to the same mux. Also monitoring a Mux > termination, what will you get multiplexed stream, de-multiplexed > streams or both? > > Regards, Christian > > Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) wrote: > >> Hi Christian, >> >> I agree with you that best would be to monitor from the other >> terminations (T1 or T3) in the example below. But in some cases, >> example, CS-IMS Gateway, during Handover on the CS side, this would >> lead to having to insert a new mux termination in the context: one in >> the main connection, one in the monitoring branch, which is less >> desirable. >> >> But actually for this handover case there is a further complication. >> At HO we have a context with a bothway connection, and a one-way >> connection. At a certain point, these two connections have to be >> > swaped: > >> the one-way becomes bothway, and the bothway becomes one-way. Finally, >> > > >> at the third step, the one-way connection is released. If we take the >> one-way branch from the mux termination, as I was suggesting below, >> there is no way to do the swaping, right? You would send a MOD on the >> Mux termination, now indicating T1b in the Mux descriptor, but >> according to H.248 this would lead to the automatic subtraction of T1, >> > > >> which is not was we wanted, as we still need to keep the connection >> (Tmux,T1) one-way until the HO is completed. >> >> Best regards, >> Arturo >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves@nteczone.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:28 AM >> To: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) >> Cc: megaco ietf >> Subject: Re: FW: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor >> >> Hello Arturo, >> >> H.248 doesn't talk about topology and the multiplex termination. The >> multiplex termination may be referenced in the topology triple but I >> think more of the issue is what is the behaviour? It is special >> because its really sitting in the middle of the context. ie. the >> media/data actually leaves the MG via other terminations. If >> monitoring is needed then these other terminations could be monitored. >> >> What function/service are you trying to achieve that can't be done >> without this? >> >> Regards, Christian >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Arturo Martin De Nicolas (AC/EDD) >>> [mailto:arturo.martin-de-nicolas@ericsson.com] >>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:45 PM >>> To: megaco@ietf.org >>> Subject: [Megaco] Multiplex descriptor >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have a question concerning a multiplexing termination, i.e. a >>> termination with a mux descriptor. In the H.248.1 model (see 6.2) the >>> > > >>> multiplexing termination is connected on one side to the bearer >>> termination or terminations representing the multiplexed stream, and >>> on the other side to the bearer termination or terminations >>> representing the demultiplexed (separated) streams, e.g. audio and >>> >>> >> video. >> >> >>> My question is: in addition to these connections, may the >>> multiplexing >>> >>> >> >> >>> termination be also connected to some monitoring terminations, i.e. >>> via one-way connections? >>> >>> Example: >>> >>> Context C1 with audio stream S1, video stream S2, and multiplexed >>> stream S0. >>> >>> Multiplexed stream: T1 -> Stream S0 >>> >>> Multiplexing termination: Tmux (muxdescriptor=H.223{T1}) -> Stream >>> S0, >>> S1 and S2 >>> >>> Demultiplexed streams: T3 -> Stream S1 and S2 >>> >>> >>> Is it possible to add T1b to the context with the following topology? >>> >>> Topology {(*, T1b, Isolate), (Tmux, T1b, oneway)}, Add (T1, Stream >>> S0) >>> >>> As I see it, this could in principle work. However, as the >>> multiplexing termination is special, I wonder if this resulting >>> >>> >> context is legal. >> >> >>> Regards, >>> Arturo >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Megaco mailing list >>> Megaco@ietf.org >>> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > > > > > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From wongawhvy@caroledehays.com Fri Jan 19 14:25:23 2007 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7zMZ-0006fO-OG for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:25:23 -0500 Received: from gw-chrlice.netdatacomm.cz ([81.19.5.75]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H7zMX-0000CZ-6c for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:25:23 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c73bff$8d549b60$0600000a@gw-chrlice.netdatacomm.cz> From: "Jonathan Mccoy" To: "Rodrigo" Subject: Re: R you happy Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:25:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C73BFF.8D549B60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Scan-Signature: a1dc446dc7ac353b90b60743d0e479e3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C73BFF.8D549B60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0008_01C73BFF.8D549B60" ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C73BFF.8D549B60 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: = megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org To: wongawhvy@caroledehays.com Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: R you happy tree, where I found you howling. This torment, remember, I did freewhom = he hates, if you did not set him on to make a jest of me. Unkindof = Leontes had not the slightest foundation in truth, instead of them, and a long jangling argument ensued, during which Beatrice,felt as = if he had taken poison while Borachio was speaking.brother Oliver, = charging Oliver on his blessing to give his brother childishness, till finding herself unable to make out the whole, and he had prevailed upon Silvia to leave her father's palace that = night,still Anthonio insisted that he would sign it, for that before = theof Imogen, that he thought he ran no hazard in this trial of hertime = run on to good or bad. 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he had prevailed upon Silvia to leave her father's palace that = night,still Anthonio insisted that he would sign it, for that before = theof Imogen, that he thought he ran no hazard in this trial of hertime = run on to good or bad. Bellarius knew her too, and softly said
sister in unfilial behaviour, she declared that she thought fiftysuch = filial kindness from her whom he had cast off for so small athe power of = man, for none of woman born should have power to hurt
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said, Will you be friends with me, Emily and I replied, Yes, ifhis = expences, and begin the world again on a plan of strict economy,and = though I was so young, I understood well enough that he meant this

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what is my hobby=3F well, crinkle, crinkle, 'ittle 'tar,tender mercies of kind old grandma.said . . = From ccusseauzzfx@araucarias.cl Sun Jan 21 07:18:09 2007 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H8beD-0002OM-8F for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:18:09 -0500 Received: from p548af820.dip.t-dialin.net ([84.138.248.32]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H8beA-0007Eo-9m for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:18:09 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c73d56$367d94b0$0202a8c0@p548AF820.dip.t-dialin.net> From: "Charita" To: "Caitlyn Hernandez" Subject: Everything should be ok Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:18:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C73D56.367D94B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4922.1500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4922.1500 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1H8gZo-0004SU-4k for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:34:01 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c73d82$4839aa50$a901a8c0@IGLD-83-130-127-142.inter.net.il> From: "Elayne Ward" To: "Lashawn" Subject: Ur thoughts Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:33:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C73D82.4839AA50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1158 X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 3a331e4a192f4d33f18e6f8376287cf6 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C73D82.4839AA50 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0008_01C73D82.4839AA50" ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C73D82.4839AA50 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable should not, and oh, pauline, he struck me! see, if i do not tell theed = shook his head 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wicked, for i know i shall not change. some time we may venture to be = friendsday because everyone was resting after yesterday's festivity, and = she sather on, and in it she found a charm more perilously potent than = before.by the proposal so abruptly made, longing to ask the natural = question hovering
always exchange ideas with the people thousands of kilometres away in = less  fine colour in a flower, grace in an animal, sweetness in = women, heroism  of the past months had set them to thinking, = taught them to see the use
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in the emerald throne, a most lovely lady. she was dressed in green = silkaunt clara had used them more than once when warning her against = impecuniousglow.feelingly; so tip let the subject drop.
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([207.71.49.220] helo=exchange.txp.lan) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HABks-00012A-EY for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:03:35 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:03:21 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <45AFFBCD.2010809@nteczone.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Events descriptor Thread-Index: Acc7VLmTvbbnfsNKSh2zi9/IKKTnVwFbvZKQ References: <45AFFBCD.2010809@nteczone.com> From: "John Wainwright" To: "megaco ietf" X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7a6398bf8aaeabc7a7bb696b6b0a2aad Subject: [Megaco] Events descriptor X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Can I get clarification of one issue regarding the events descriptor. If I have a termination with events 'armed' such as al/on or al/of and the termination is in a call, then after processing a Subtract and the termination going into the NULL context are the events still 'armed' since no new events descriptor has yet arrived to replace the existing one? Is this stated clearly in the standards document? Thanks John _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 25 17:20:54 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HACxU-0008IF-Ry; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:20:40 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HACxS-0008I1-PY for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:20:38 -0500 Received: from zrtps0kp.nortel.com ([47.140.192.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HACxR-0003jH-HC for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:20:38 -0500 Received: from zcarhxs1.corp.nortel.com (zcarhxs1.corp.nortel.com [47.129.230.89]) by zrtps0kp.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id l0PMKZl11644; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [47.130.18.23] ([47.130.18.23] RDNS failed) by zcarhxs1.corp.nortel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:20:34 -0500 Message-ID: <45B92D1B.1060000@nortel.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:20:11 -0500 From: "Tom-PT Taylor" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Wainwright Subject: Re: [Megaco] Events descriptor References: <45AFFBCD.2010809@nteczone.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2007 22:20:34.0591 (UTC) FILETIME=[085A92F0:01C740CF] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Subtract puts everything back to default/provisioned values. This is stated clearly in the first paragraph of section 6.2.4. John Wainwright wrote: > Can I get clarification of one issue regarding the events descriptor. > If I have a termination with events 'armed' such as al/on or al/of and > the termination is in a call, then after processing a Subtract and the > termination going into the NULL context are the events still 'armed' > since no new events descriptor has yet arrived to replace the existing > one? > > Is this stated clearly in the standards document? > > Thanks > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 25 17:28:41 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAD5F-0003U0-BR; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:28:41 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAD5E-0003Tu-40 for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:28:40 -0500 Received: from exchange.texasprototypes.com ([207.71.49.220] helo=exchange.txp.lan) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAD5C-0005AX-Rl for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:28:40 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Megaco] Events descriptor Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:28:38 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <45B92D1B.1060000@nortel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Events descriptor Thread-Index: AcdAzw3fRu/h4Jq5TCqc4NuFdMzcvQAANBxQ References: <45AFFBCD.2010809@nteczone.com> <45B92D1B.1060000@nortel.com> From: "John Wainwright" To: "Tom-PT Taylor" X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org So the default state for the events descriptor implies no events are 'armed' meaning any event currently 'armed' is now turned off ? -----Original Message----- From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@nortel.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:20 PM To: John Wainwright Cc: megaco ietf Subject: Re: [Megaco] Events descriptor Subtract puts everything back to default/provisioned values. This is=20 stated clearly in the first paragraph of section 6.2.4. John Wainwright wrote: > Can I get clarification of one issue regarding the events descriptor. > If I have a termination with events 'armed' such as al/on or al/of and > the termination is in a call, then after processing a Subtract and the > termination going into the NULL context are the events still 'armed' > since no new events descriptor has yet arrived to replace the existing > one? >=20 > Is this stated clearly in the standards document? >=20 > Thanks > John >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >=20 _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 25 19:51:26 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAFIl-00083O-6J; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:50:47 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAFIk-00082T-02 for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:50:46 -0500 Received: from zcars04e.nortel.com ([47.129.242.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAFIi-0001bq-Li for megaco@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:50:45 -0500 Received: from zcarhxs1.corp.nortel.com (zcarhxs1.corp.nortel.com [47.129.230.89]) by zcars04e.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id l0Q0gvw10018; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [47.130.18.23] ([47.130.18.23] RDNS failed) by zcarhxs1.corp.nortel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:50:42 -0500 Message-ID: <45B9504C.3090600@nortel.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:50:20 -0500 From: "Tom-PT Taylor" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Wainwright Subject: Re: [Megaco] Events descriptor References: <45AFFBCD.2010809@nteczone.com> <45B92D1B.1060000@nortel.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2007 00:50:42.0091 (UTC) FILETIME=[013DFFB0:01C740E4] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8b30eb7682a596edff707698f4a80f7d Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Correct, unless the MG is configured otherwise for that termination. I haven't heard of anyone doing such configuration -- it's just a theoretical possibility. John Wainwright wrote: > So the default state for the events descriptor implies no events are > 'armed' meaning any event currently 'armed' is now turned off ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@nortel.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:20 PM > To: John Wainwright > Cc: megaco ietf > Subject: Re: [Megaco] Events descriptor > > Subtract puts everything back to default/provisioned values. This is > stated clearly in the first paragraph of section 6.2.4. > > John Wainwright wrote: >> Can I get clarification of one issue regarding the events descriptor. >> If I have a termination with events 'armed' such as al/on or al/of and >> the termination is in a call, then after processing a Subtract and the >> termination going into the NULL context are the events still 'armed' >> since no new events descriptor has yet arrived to replace the existing >> one? >> >> Is this stated clearly in the standards document? >> >> Thanks >> John >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> > > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 26 04:03:25 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAMzI-0006C2-O9; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:03:12 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAMzG-0006Bt-Vc for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:03:10 -0500 Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAMzB-0007Zb-Ff for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:03:10 -0500 Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id C8FE521258; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:03:00 +0100 (CET) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-b0ed5bb0000007e1-13-45b9c3c4d7fe Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.121]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id BA403211D2; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:03:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw118.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.77]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:03:00 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Megaco] Events descriptor Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:03:00 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Events descriptor Thread-Index: AcdA5JQfV60PY51QQLGsTAql33BY7gAQWkce References: <45AFFBCD.2010809@nteczone.com><45B92D1B.1060000@nortel.com> <45B9504C.3090600@nortel.com> From: "Wayne Cutler $CV/ETL$" To: "Tom-PT Taylor" , "John Wainwright" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2007 09:03:00.0370 (UTC) FILETIME=[C76DAF20:01C74128] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b4a0a5f5992e2a4954405484e7717d8c Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org The default setting (to which the Events Desc is returned when the = termination returns to the null cotext) can be=20 anything you want it to be. In the case of an analogue line GW, it is = clearly silly to have nothing armed - else on hooks etc. wouldn't be = reported. So, for such a GW, the default descriptor could be (for = example) armed to report an off-hook transition.=20 ________________________________ From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@nortel.com] Sent: Fri 26/01/2007 00:50 To: John Wainwright Cc: megaco ietf Subject: Re: [Megaco] Events descriptor Correct, unless the MG is configured otherwise for that termination. I haven't heard of anyone doing such configuration -- it's just a theoretical possibility. John Wainwright wrote: > So the default state for the events descriptor implies no events are > 'armed' meaning any event currently 'armed' is now turned off ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@nortel.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:20 PM > To: John Wainwright > Cc: megaco ietf > Subject: Re: [Megaco] Events descriptor > > Subtract puts everything back to default/provisioned values. This is > stated clearly in the first paragraph of section 6.2.4. > > John Wainwright wrote: >> Can I get clarification of one issue regarding the events descriptor. >> If I have a termination with events 'armed' such as al/on or al/of = and >> the termination is in a call, then after processing a Subtract and = the >> termination going into the NULL context are the events still 'armed' >> since no new events descriptor has yet arrived to replace the = existing >> one? >> >> Is this stated clearly in the standards document? >> >> Thanks >> John >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> > > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 26 06:34:47 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAPLo-0003qh-AU; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:34:36 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAPLk-0003qJ-Se for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:34:32 -0500 Received: from bay0-omc3-s10.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.210]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAPLi-0001fT-KY for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:34:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.8.118]) by BAY0-OMC3-S10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:34:30 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:34:29 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.8.123 by by117fd.bay117.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:34:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.45.197.113] X-Originating-Email: [shaileshredkar@hotmail.com] X-Sender: shaileshredkar@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "shailesh redkar" To: megaco@ietf.org Bcc: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:34:25 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2007 11:34:29.0962 (UTC) FILETIME=[F13F5AA0:01C7413D] X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de Subject: [Megaco] Signals on IP termination. 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Hi All,

H.248.1 states

" A Signals Descriptor is a parameter that contains the set of signals that the Media Gateway is asked to apply to a termination. A Signals Descriptor contains a number of signals and/or sequential signal lists. A Signals Descriptor may contain zero signals and sequential signal lists. Support of sequential signal lists is optional. "

MG generates tones to POTs according to the signal descriptor.

What is the significance of it in the IP world with IP phones or are these included for compatiblity with old POTs ?

Regards

Tickle your funny bone with Rahul Phondke --===============0886661535== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco --===============0886661535==-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 26 08:19:20 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAQyx-00022h-MR; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:19:07 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAQyw-00022Y-Az for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:19:06 -0500 Received: from zrtps0kp.nortel.com ([47.140.192.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAQyv-0001a3-27 for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:19:06 -0500 Received: from zrtphxm2.corp.nortel.com (zrtphxm2.corp.nortel.com [47.140.202.51]) by zrtps0kp.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id l0QDJ2x24920 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:19:03 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: [Megaco] Events descriptor Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:18:51 -0500 Message-ID: <34B3EAA5B3066A42914D28C5ECF5FEA40D1BD296@zrtphxm2.corp.nortel.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Events descriptor Thread-Index: AcdA5JQfV60PY51QQLGsTAql33BY7gAQWkceAAmVU/A= References: <45AFFBCD.2010809@nteczone.com><45B92D1B.1060000@nortel.com> <45B9504C.3090600@nortel.com> From: "Kevin Boyle" To: "Wayne Cutler $CV/ETL$" , "Tom-PT Taylor" , "John Wainwright" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b7b9551d71acde901886cc48bfc088a6 Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Recall that any such provisioning would need to be done on both the MG and the MGC. If the MGC doesn't know that the MG is preconfigured to report certain events, it is within its rights to return an Error Descriptor in response to those Notify Commands. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Cutler (CV/ETL) [mailto:wayne.cutler@ericsson.com] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 4:03 AM To: Taylor, Tom-PT (CAR:AR00); John Wainwright Cc: megaco ietf Subject: RE: [Megaco] Events descriptor The default setting (to which the Events Desc is returned when the termination returns to the null cotext) can be anything you want it to be. In the case of an analogue line GW, it is clearly silly to have nothing armed - else on hooks etc. wouldn't be reported. So, for such a GW, the default descriptor could be (for example) armed to report an off-hook transition. ________________________________ From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@nortel.com] Sent: Fri 26/01/2007 00:50 To: John Wainwright Cc: megaco ietf Subject: Re: [Megaco] Events descriptor Correct, unless the MG is configured otherwise for that termination. I haven't heard of anyone doing such configuration -- it's just a theoretical possibility. John Wainwright wrote: > So the default state for the events descriptor implies no events are > 'armed' meaning any event currently 'armed' is now turned off ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@nortel.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:20 PM > To: John Wainwright > Cc: megaco ietf > Subject: Re: [Megaco] Events descriptor > > Subtract puts everything back to default/provisioned values. This is > stated clearly in the first paragraph of section 6.2.4. > > John Wainwright wrote: >> Can I get clarification of one issue regarding the events descriptor. >> If I have a termination with events 'armed' such as al/on or al/of >> and the termination is in a call, then after processing a Subtract >> and the termination going into the NULL context are the events still 'armed' >> since no new events descriptor has yet arrived to replace the >> existing one? >> >> Is this stated clearly in the standards document? >> >> Thanks >> John >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> > > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 26 08:21:33 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAR1J-0003za-CC; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:21:33 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAR1H-0003uB-T3 for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:21:31 -0500 Received: from zcars04f.nortel.com ([47.129.242.57]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAR1G-0001yx-Kd for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:21:31 -0500 Received: from zrtphxm2.corp.nortel.com (zrtphxm2.corp.nortel.com [47.140.202.51]) by zcars04f.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id l0QDLSE05957 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:21:28 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: [Megaco] Signals on IP termination. Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:21:15 -0500 Message-ID: <34B3EAA5B3066A42914D28C5ECF5FEA40D1BD2A2@zrtphxm2.corp.nortel.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Signals on IP termination. Thread-Index: AcdBPnqbbNfknG5uQjqDv71XOnJxfwADhZ4w References:

From: "Kevin Boyle" To: "shailesh redkar" , X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Cc: X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org MGs would produce the signals requested on any termination upon which they are requested to do so. Whether the termination is TDM or IP, physical or ephemeral is irrelevant. In the case of an IP ephemeral termination, the signal would be produced and encoded for broadcast over the IP network (toward the exterior of the context). Kevin ________________________________ From: shailesh redkar [mailto:shaileshredkar@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:34 AM To: megaco@ietf.org Subject: [Megaco] Signals on IP termination. Hi All, H.248.1 states " A Signals Descriptor is a parameter that contains the set of signals that the Media Gateway is asked to apply to a termination. A Signals Descriptor contains a number of signals and/or sequential signal lists. A Signals Descriptor may contain zero signals and sequential signal lists. Support of sequential signal lists is optional. " MG generates tones to POTs according to the signal descriptor. What is the significance of it in the IP world with IP phones or are these included for compatiblity with old POTs ? Regards SR ________________________________ Tickle your funny bone with Rahul Phondke _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 26 08:26:03 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAR5f-0005N1-Ce; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:26:03 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAR5d-0005Ms-OG for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:26:01 -0500 Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAR5X-0002uR-8C for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:26:01 -0500 Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 6A29D216D5; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:24:12 +0100 (CET) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-ae6d0bb0000007e1-cd-45ba00fc6207 Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.121]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 4B8F6216D1; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:24:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw118.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.77]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:24:12 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Megaco] Events descriptor Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:23:27 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Megaco] Events descriptor Thread-Index: AcdA5JQfV60PY51QQLGsTAql33BY7gAQWkceAAmVU/AAADXQFA== References: <45AFFBCD.2010809@nteczone.com><45B92D1B.1060000@nortel.com> <45B9504C.3090600@nortel.com> <34B3EAA5B3066A42914D28C5ECF5FEA40D1BD296@zrtphxm2.corp.nortel.com> From: "Wayne Cutler $CV/ETL$" To: "Kevin Boyle" , "Tom-PT Taylor" , "John Wainwright" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2007 13:24:12.0135 (UTC) FILETIME=[44873F70:01C7414D] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1b0e72ff1bbd457ceef31828f216a86 Cc: megaco ietf X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Agreed. Such a "common view" would typically be part of a commonly = supported profile.=20 =20 Wayne=20 ________________________________ From: Kevin Boyle [mailto:kboyle@nortel.com] Sent: Fri 26/01/2007 13:18 To: Wayne Cutler (CV/ETL); Tom-PT Taylor; John Wainwright Cc: megaco ietf Subject: RE: [Megaco] Events descriptor Recall that any such provisioning would need to be done on both the MG and the MGC. If the MGC doesn't know that the MG is preconfigured to report certain events, it is within its rights to return an Error Descriptor in response to those Notify Commands. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Cutler (CV/ETL) [mailto:wayne.cutler@ericsson.com] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 4:03 AM To: Taylor, Tom-PT (CAR:AR00); John Wainwright Cc: megaco ietf Subject: RE: [Megaco] Events descriptor The default setting (to which the Events Desc is returned when the termination returns to the null cotext) can be anything you want it to be. In the case of an analogue line GW, it is clearly silly to have nothing armed - else on hooks etc. wouldn't be reported. So, for such a GW, the default descriptor could be (for example) armed to report an off-hook transition. ________________________________ From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@nortel.com] Sent: Fri 26/01/2007 00:50 To: John Wainwright Cc: megaco ietf Subject: Re: [Megaco] Events descriptor Correct, unless the MG is configured otherwise for that termination. I haven't heard of anyone doing such configuration -- it's just a theoretical possibility. John Wainwright wrote: > So the default state for the events descriptor implies no events are > 'armed' meaning any event currently 'armed' is now turned off ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@nortel.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:20 PM > To: John Wainwright > Cc: megaco ietf > Subject: Re: [Megaco] Events descriptor > > Subtract puts everything back to default/provisioned values. This is > stated clearly in the first paragraph of section 6.2.4. > > John Wainwright wrote: >> Can I get clarification of one issue regarding the events descriptor. >> If I have a termination with events 'armed' such as al/on or al/of >> and the termination is in a call, then after processing a Subtract >> and the termination going into the NULL context are the events still 'armed' >> since no new events descriptor has yet arrived to replace the >> existing one? >> >> Is this stated clearly in the standards document? >> >> Thanks >> John >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Megaco mailing list >> Megaco@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco >> > > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From damoncampbellkixc@hypo.com.au Fri Jan 26 12:52:01 2007 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAVF3-0005jE-H2 for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:52:01 -0500 Received: from p54a442ec.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.164.66.236] helo=sebastia-3tivij) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAVF0-0002F3-Om for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:52:01 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c74172$ab293470$00000000@sebastia-3tivij> From: "REPS Jean-Rodolphe" To: "LUCAS BARRIE" Subject: Re: Can you help me? 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------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C7417D.E1AA2490-- From megaco-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 26 13:40:50 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAVzs-000073-Rb; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:40:24 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAVzr-00006v-La for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:40:23 -0500 Received: from prattle.redback.com ([155.53.12.9]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAVzq-0001K2-AM for megaco@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:40:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prattle.redback.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C361769C122; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from prattle.redback.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (prattle [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00655-07; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [155.53.44.239] (cologne.redback.com [155.53.44.239]) by prattle.redback.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFB469C120; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:40:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45BA4B15.8010600@redback.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:40:21 -0800 From: Ashish Singh User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shailesh redkar Subject: Re: [Megaco] Signals on IP termination. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at redback.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Cc: megaco@ietf.org X-BeenThere: megaco@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Media Gateway Control List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: megaco-bounces@ietf.org Signals are not only used for generating tones. It is also used by MGC to instruct MG for taking any action on the termination. e.g. ipnapt/latch (Latching to the incoming media). Thanks Ashish shailesh redkar wrote: > > > Hi All, > > H.248.1 states > > " A Signals Descriptor is a parameter that contains the set of signals > that the Media Gateway is asked to apply to a termination. A Signals > Descriptor contains a number of signals and/or sequential signal > lists. A Signals Descriptor may contain zero signals and sequential > signal lists. Support of sequential signal lists is optional. " > > MG generates tones to POTs according to the signal descriptor. > > What is the significance of it in the IP world with IP phones or are > these included for compatiblity with old POTs ? > > Regards > > SR > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tickle your funny bone with Rahul Phondke > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Megaco mailing list > Megaco@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco > _______________________________________________ Megaco mailing list Megaco@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco From vasilpwaep@crystalcourier.com Fri Jan 26 14:14:00 2007 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAWWO-0000ou-3O for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:14:00 -0500 Received: from p54a4020f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.164.2.15]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HAWWJ-0006NZ-OW for megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:14:00 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c7417f$493f84a0$0301a8c0@p54A4020F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> From: "Deneen Evans" To: "Pansy West" Subject: Re: Wanna see Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:22:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C7417F.493F84A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4922.1500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4922.1500 X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Scan-Signature: abb8110dde048486ea2be9c769692569 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C7417F.493F84A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0008_01C7417F.493F84A0" ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C7417F.493F84A0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: = megaco-archive@lists.ietf.org To: vasilpwaep@crystalcourier.com Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Wanna see provisions, when his wicked brother left him, as he thought, to = perishjuice of the little purple flower into his eyes. 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provisions, when his wicked brother = left him, as he thought, to perishjuice of the little purple flower into = his eyes. But it so fell out,Sleep, then, said the queen, and I will wind = you in my arms. O how
untutored mind, that no one from her behaviour would have known shethey = were very serious, and they have the truth from Hero, and seem tothe end = completely conquered his antagonist, who was so much hurt,
You have my consent, said Orlando. Let your wedding be tomorrow,

Look not amazed, that I so suddenly resolve you shall spend some = timeJew had said of his kind intentions, did not like his friend = shouldbracelet on the arm of his wife, which he begged she would = preserveto join the army of Britain, and fight in the cause of his king = who
she loved, but not for gain and that her professions, the lesshim, but = her sisters had none. And Cordelia said, that she had nosmiling in her = face, have plucked it from her breast, and dashed its
either of approval or of blame, but she strictly questioned Helena as

either of approval or of blame, but she strictly questioned Helena = asstorm afresh, saying, the cap was moulded in a porringer, and = thatDromio, who ran home, and told his mistress that his master = hadconclusion, for the venerable lady abbess made herself known to be = the
Isabel. Lucio then told her, Claudio was imprisoned for seducing aliving = and he said to Isabel, Give me your hand, Isabel for yourwere necessarily = endeared to all such spendthrifts and loose livers,
demands, pleading bonds, interest, mortgages, ironhearted men that

hater of mankind and some there were who fancied a conceit in thefor = a short while, expecting when Romeo would come to release her fromHamlet = observed the king, his uncle, change colour at this expression,because he = had married her, she called Hamlet's father. Hamlet, sorely
place of lieutenant from him.subjects of Tyre, impatient of his long = absence, threatened to revolt,the same success, was in comparison = disregarded, she formed a project
bark in which Ulysses sat, but with the fall it raised so fierce an
of his men, whom horror at the sight of their countrymen's fate had In = wide Troy labour'd whatsoever therewinds changing to favour their escape, = but that they must inevitablyof her marriage, which the dream had told = her was not far distant and
from the grave, yet no way can it defend a living man from death andfrom = thee to know thee. But this I surely know, that all the time theof your = greatness, I must say that my heart puts on a wolfish
mortality in our minds, while we experience that as much as we live I invited you to draw near a bright fire which blazed in thetill we = came quite to grandmamma's house, which stood all alone by fetch me home. I was a foolish little thing then, and did not = know
again this wretched woman had fallen into a fit.and I love her = because she was my mother's friend when they were Then there was another complaint against me that I was so shy before
time to put on her bonnet before she came out. The milliner said I = wassprightly that gave me mirth, or gave me instruction. I soon = learnedways of these little animals in their native woods, for he had seen

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