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From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jan 6 08:04:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDC33A6807; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:04:40 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E637B3A687D for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:04:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.155 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.155 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_47=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LwYN-0NdePLK for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-6-98.vip.sina.com (mail3-172.sinamail.sina.com.cn [202.108.3.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECE53A67B2 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail5-204.sinamail.sina.com.cn (unknown [10.55.5.204]) by smtp-6-98.vip.sina.com (SINAMAIL) with ESMTP id 3C51D1DD629 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 00:04:19 +0800 (CST) Received: from unknown (HELO fe2953b3115b44a) ([61.138.177.3]) by mail5-204.sinamail.sina.com.cn with ESMTP; 07 Jan 2009 00:04:19 +0800 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 00:04:17 +0800 From: "shaoxun" To: "manet" Message-ID: <200901070004174535989@vip.sina.com> X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 10, 201, 20 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [manet] a question about judging whether the MAC(802.11 used in Ad Hoc) is idle X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0037688847==" Sender: manet-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0037688847== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====003_Dragon856187771843_=====" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=====003_Dragon856187771843_===== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, I'm sorry for my poor English first, because it's not my mother tongue.Maybe I should improve it. About the method of judging whether the meduim is idle, there is a paper proposing three conditions: 1. NAV's value is less than the current time 2. receive state is idle 3. send state is idle My question is whether satisfying the three conditions above is suffient. I'm afraid that there may be an exclusive situation like that: the PHY senses the interference but the MAC thought the meduim is IDLE(because it has not received RTS/CTS and the rx_state and tx_state all both IDLE). So the MAC prepares to send message, while the PHY layer is not really IDLE. Am I right? Many thanks! Best regards. --=====003_Dragon856187771843_===== Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Dear all,

I'm sorry for my poor English first, because it's not my mother tongue.Maybe I should improve it.

About the method of judging whether the meduim is idle, there is a paper proposing three conditions:

1. NAV's value is less than the current time

2. receive state is idle

3. send state is idle

My question is whether satisfying the three conditions above is suffient.

I'm afraid that there may be an exclusive situation like that: the PHY senses the interference but the MAC thought the meduim is IDLE(because it has not received RTS/CTS and the rx_state and tx_state all both IDLE). So the MAC prepares to send message, while the PHY layer is not really IDLE.

Am I right?

Many thanks!

Best regards.

--=====003_Dragon856187771843_=====-- --===============0037688847== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet --===============0037688847==-- From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jan 6 08:17:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4744F3A6850; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:17:26 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D25F3A686C for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:14:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A2v8-Szg7g0o for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mlbe2k2.cs.myharris.net (mlbe2k2.cs.myharris.net [137.237.90.89]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C2B3A6774 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by mlbe2k2.cs.myharris.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:14:02 -0500 Received: from mlbe2k7.cs.myharris.net ([192.107.153.230]) by mlbe2k2.cs.myharris.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:14:01 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:14:00 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: MANET Pronunciation Thread-Index: AclwGciUUAOJrdawTHKmcoOItj9rzA== From: "Knapp, Michael" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2009 16:14:01.0460 (UTC) FILETIME=[C98B1B40:01C97019] Subject: [manet] MANET Pronunciation X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Dear List, I would like to know how to properly pronounce MANET. I've come to understand there is some history behind the term which may affect how someone says the term. Professionally, I've heard MANET pronounced three different ways: First as "ma-net" where the "N" sound is made only made once between the syllables. Second as "man-net" where the "N" sound is present in both syllables. Third as "ma-nay" as in the nineteenth century French painter Edouard Manet. I apologize if this question seems flippant but knowing how to properly pronounce terms is important and there is some history behind term's pronunciation. I'd like to know if there is a general consensus within the group as to where the pronunciation has been taken. Thank you, Michael Knapp _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From k-5-12-7@agate.plala.or.jp Tue Jan 6 12:52:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060DE3A69C2 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:52:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.883 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.883 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC=4.295, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=1.643, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v6+Vag7QwsJr for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:52:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from 200-101-127-3.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br (200-101-127-3.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.101.127.3]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8509C3A692F for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:52:36 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Your order 81839 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090106205237.8509C3A692F@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:52:36 -0800 (PST)

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Perkins" Organization: Wichorus Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Knapp, Michael" References: In-Reply-To: X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956abb457f1b4332f525d83ef140f6d25888070d151e8d6270f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 75.26.137.116 Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] MANET Pronunciation X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: manet-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org Hello Michael, I'm sure you would get a variety of answers and there does not seem to be consensus. What I "like" to do is to use the painterly pronunciation as "normal", and use the "man-net" choice when it seems that I really have to emphasize that I am talking about networks. So, for instance, I'd prefer the first option when talking about the [manet] working group. Consistency... bah, humbug. Regards, Charlie P. Knapp, Michael wrote: > Dear List, > > I would like to know how to properly pronounce MANET. I've come to > understand there is some history behind the term which may affect how > someone says the term. Professionally, I've heard MANET pronounced three > different ways: First as "ma-net" where the "N" sound is made only made > once between the syllables. Second as "man-net" where the "N" sound is > present in both syllables. Third as "ma-nay" as in the nineteenth > century French painter Edouard Manet. > > I apologize if this question seems flippant but knowing how to properly > pronounce terms is important and there is some history behind term's > pronunciation. I'd like to know if there is a general consensus within > the group as to where the pronunciation has been taken. > > Thank you, > Michael Knapp > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > > _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jan 6 15:21:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3913A6824; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:21:45 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876B93A6824 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:21:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.15 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.15 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MSGID_MULTIPLE_AT=1.449, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K6w3RiRFCVwL for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.83.3]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D433A6819 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil [132.250.86.3]) by s2.itd.nrl.navy.mil (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id n06NLLKb029206; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:21:21 -0500 Received: (from sextant [132.250.92.22]) by smtp.itd.nrl.navy.mil (SMSSMTP 4.1.16.48) with SMTP id M2009010618212131638 ; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:21:21 -0500 From: "Joe Macker" To: "'Charles E. Perkins'" , "'Knapp, Michael'" References: <4963D9E9.7090902@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <4963D9E9.7090902@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:21:11 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c97055$762cfa40$6286eec0$@macker@nrl.navy.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AclwTYj/gUK60ICnSpC3Aeb8oYJrRgAAdenQ Content-Language: en-us Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] MANET Pronunciation X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org There is variety here and that is ok by me.. In my experience it is generally pronounced "man-nay" I pretty much do what Charlie does if audience needs it, I might have to say "man-net" You say toe-may-toe ... I say toe-ma-toe You say poe-tay-toe ... I say poe-ta-toe ---------------------------- For me, I initially liked the Edouard Manet pronunciation when we first created the term back in the day. In one of my first presentations on manet problem/concepts 11th IEEE Computer Communications Workshop Sep 24, 1996 I actually used a portrait of Edouard and I discussed some "off-the-cuff" analogies. Perhaps a weak attempt at humor? We really don't need a thread on this but ... While MONET is considered the father of impressionism style in art, MANET is considered its grandfather. Analogies to routing style?? You decide. .."Impressionism" style tends to use less detail to impress a form. .."Impressionism" style recognized that light and shadow are often seen in glances and are everchanging. .."Impressionism" style may appear sloppy partially due to the artist's need to work quickly in dynamic, outside conditions. Random trivia...As some may recall, the movement was sharply rejected by the established "Salon de Paris" for many years and a "Salon de Refused" was formed. --------------------------- Hmmm.... > -----Original Message----- > From: manet-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Charles E. Perkins > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:24 PM > To: Knapp, Michael > Cc: manet@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [manet] MANET Pronunciation > > > Hello Michael, > > I'm sure you would get a variety of answers and there > does not seem to be consensus. > > What I "like" to do is to use the painterly pronunciation > as "normal", and use the "man-net" choice when it seems > that I really have to emphasize that I am talking about > networks. So, for instance, I'd prefer the first option > when talking about the [manet] working group. > > Consistency... bah, humbug. > > Regards, > Charlie P. > > > > Knapp, Michael wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > I would like to know how to properly pronounce MANET. I've come to > > understand there is some history behind the term which may affect how > > someone says the term. Professionally, I've heard MANET pronounced three > > different ways: First as "ma-net" where the "N" sound is made only made > > once between the syllables. Second as "man-net" where the "N" sound is > > present in both syllables. Third as "ma-nay" as in the nineteenth > > century French painter Edouard Manet. > > > > I apologize if this question seems flippant but knowing how to properly > > pronounce terms is important and there is some history behind term's > > pronunciation. I'd like to know if there is a general consensus within > > the group as to where the pronunciation has been taken. > > > > Thank you, > > Michael Knapp > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From oopxfgkrsczhxlqfssj@abacusinfo.com Tue Jan 6 19:30:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4373A683E for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:30:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -34.565 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-34.565 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, RELAY_IS_222=2.179, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Od8U0RM4POxe for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from 33office.ccsend.com (unknown [222.124.137.150]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 322E73A63EC for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:29:55 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Your order 12381 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090107032956.322E73A63EC@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:29:55 -0800 (PST)

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From manet-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jan 6 21:52:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F553A69E4; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:52:06 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372713A69E4 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:52:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.467 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.467 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.132, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oTSXIRAyI-Yo for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:52:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4183A69E3 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:52:02 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,224,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="225107415" Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Jan 2009 05:51:45 +0000 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n075pj8A013032; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:51:45 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n075pjU0014149; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 05:51:45 GMT Received: from xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.174]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:51:45 -0800 Received: from DHCP-173-220.caltech.edu ([10.21.81.16]) by xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:51:44 -0800 Message-Id: From: Fred Baker To: "Charles E. Perkins" In-Reply-To: <4963D9E9.7090902@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:51:42 -0800 References: <4963D9E9.7090902@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2009 05:51:45.0089 (UTC) FILETIME=[05BEC310:01C9708C] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1753; t=1231307505; x=1232171505; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim1004; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fred@cisco.com; z=From:=20Fred=20Baker=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[manet]=20MANET=20Pronunciation |Sender:=20; bh=4IaWXd/WKOp1xherOrmWvkqvOm5Fg4d0kkms+vSSOdk=; b=JXyDop8atPsDzhPoGHxSgddhF2yEMP3dni2c4SRNfCnjUqQfvlgbzykqft t/CT6Fd8CIKWSIp6gybnRlfMYH82mC5EXYHFVXjkVp/18lH2IHY09QpAdZRD FvWvXzQRjwZIsjN7/JCq6Ekh0gKhVfmaoOu4+lqvG5UZcQ72v7irk=; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=fred@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] MANET Pronunciation X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: manet-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org I follow pretty much the same rule. On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Charles E. Perkins wrote: > > Hello Michael, > > I'm sure you would get a variety of answers and there > does not seem to be consensus. > > What I "like" to do is to use the painterly pronunciation > as "normal", and use the "man-net" choice when it seems > that I really have to emphasize that I am talking about > networks. So, for instance, I'd prefer the first option > when talking about the [manet] working group. > > Consistency... bah, humbug. > > Regards, > Charlie P. > > > > Knapp, Michael wrote: >> Dear List, >> >> I would like to know how to properly pronounce MANET. I've come to >> understand there is some history behind the term which may affect how >> someone says the term. Professionally, I've heard MANET pronounced >> three >> different ways: First as "ma-net" where the "N" sound is made only >> made >> once between the syllables. Second as "man-net" where the "N" sound >> is >> present in both syllables. Third as "ma-nay" as in the nineteenth >> century French painter Edouard Manet. >> >> I apologize if this question seems flippant but knowing how to >> properly >> pronounce terms is important and there is some history behind term's >> pronunciation. I'd like to know if there is a general consensus >> within >> the group as to where the pronunciation has been taken. >> >> Thank you, >> Michael Knapp >> _______________________________________________ >> manet mailing list >> manet@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From jsmolens@agora.bungi.com Wed Jan 7 04:00:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FA028C166 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 04:00:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.769 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.769 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=1.643, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Apw+se97gQtq for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 04:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from aba-egypt.com (unknown [201.88.2.43]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 17C8D3A68DA for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 04:00:02 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Is your cell phone always busy? 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From manet-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jan 7 08:43:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F69B3A69A6; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:43:04 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FDF3A68E7 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:43:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.444 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.444 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.155, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QFxcuuJAvrTR for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:43:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com (blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com [130.76.32.69]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34BF3A6843 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com (stl-av-01.boeing.com [192.76.190.6]) by blv-smtpout-01.ns.cs.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/8.14.0/SMTPOUT) with ESMTP id n07GgXFL019042 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/DOWNSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id n07GgXvw025879; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:42:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwbh-11.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.55.84]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/UPSTREAM_RELAY) with ESMTP id n07GgQav025583; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:42:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com ([130.247.54.35]) by XCH-NWBH-11.nw.nos.boeing.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:42:29 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:42:28 -0800 Message-ID: <39C363776A4E8C4A94691D2BD9D1C9A10566D765@XCH-NW-7V2.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <000901c97055$762cfa40$6286eec0$@macker@nrl.navy.mil> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] MANET Pronunciation Thread-Index: AclwTYj/gUK60ICnSpC3Aeb8oYJrRgAAdenQACXEfyA= References: <4963D9E9.7090902@earthlink.net> <000901c97055$762cfa40$6286eec0$@macker@nrl.navy.mil> From: "Templin, Fred L" To: "Joe Macker" , "Charles E. Perkins" , "Knapp, Michael" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2009 16:42:29.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[EDF05770:01C970E6] Cc: manet@ietf.org Subject: Re: [manet] MANET Pronunciation X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org I rather liked Joe's account of the name origin. I guess the term has been in use for quite some time now... Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Joe Macker [mailto:joseph.macker@nrl.navy.mil] >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:21 PM >To: 'Charles E. Perkins'; 'Knapp, Michael' >Cc: manet@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [manet] MANET Pronunciation > >There is variety here and that is ok by me.. >In my experience it is generally pronounced "man-nay" >I pretty much do what Charlie does if audience needs it, I might have to say "man-net" > >You say toe-may-toe ... I say toe-ma-toe >You say poe-tay-toe ... I say poe-ta-toe > >---------------------------- >For me, I initially liked the Edouard Manet pronunciation when we first created the term back in the >day. > >In one of my first presentations on manet problem/concepts 11th IEEE Computer Communications Workshop >Sep 24, 1996 I actually used a >portrait of Edouard and I discussed some "off-the-cuff" analogies. > >Perhaps a weak attempt at humor? > >We really don't need a thread on this but ... >While MONET is considered the father of impressionism style in art, MANET is considered its >grandfather. >Analogies to routing style?? You decide. > >.."Impressionism" style tends to use less detail to impress a form. > >.."Impressionism" style recognized that light and shadow are often seen in glances and are >everchanging. > >.."Impressionism" style may appear sloppy partially due to the artist's need to work quickly in >dynamic, outside conditions. > >Random trivia...As some may recall, the movement was sharply rejected by the established "Salon de >Paris" for many years and a >"Salon de Refused" was formed. >--------------------------- > >Hmmm.... > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: manet-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Charles E. Perkins >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:24 PM >> To: Knapp, Michael >> Cc: manet@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [manet] MANET Pronunciation >> >> >> Hello Michael, >> >> I'm sure you would get a variety of answers and there >> does not seem to be consensus. >> >> What I "like" to do is to use the painterly pronunciation >> as "normal", and use the "man-net" choice when it seems >> that I really have to emphasize that I am talking about >> networks. So, for instance, I'd prefer the first option >> when talking about the [manet] working group. >> >> Consistency... bah, humbug. >> >> Regards, >> Charlie P. >> >> >> >> Knapp, Michael wrote: >> > Dear List, >> > >> > I would like to know how to properly pronounce MANET. I've come to >> > understand there is some history behind the term which may affect how >> > someone says the term. Professionally, I've heard MANET pronounced three >> > different ways: First as "ma-net" where the "N" sound is made only made >> > once between the syllables. Second as "man-net" where the "N" sound is >> > present in both syllables. Third as "ma-nay" as in the nineteenth >> > century French painter Edouard Manet. >> > >> > I apologize if this question seems flippant but knowing how to properly >> > pronounce terms is important and there is some history behind term's >> > pronunciation. I'd like to know if there is a general consensus within >> > the group as to where the pronunciation has been taken. >> > >> > Thank you, >> > Michael Knapp >> > _______________________________________________ >> > manet mailing list >> > manet@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >> > >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> manet mailing list >> manet@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > >_______________________________________________ >manet mailing list >manet@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From jmrighim@aliroo.com Wed Jan 7 08:56:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A1E3A6802 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:56:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -34.953 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-34.953 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-18.412, BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_VERIZON_P=2.144, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_VERIZON_POOL=1.495, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LFPSZHypI3zY for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool-71-170-177-106.dllstx.fios.verizon.net (pool-71-170-177-106.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [71.170.177.106]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C8C4E3A67E9 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:56:44 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Your order 76003 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090107165644.C8C4E3A67E9@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:56:44 -0800 (PST)

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From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 9 06:16:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702C828C165; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 06:16:00 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3734828C163 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 06:15:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6y+w-+bvN77Q for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 06:15:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mlbe2k1.cs.myharris.net (mlbe2k1.cs.myharris.net [137.237.90.88]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9563B28C160 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 06:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by mlbe2k1.cs.myharris.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:15:37 -0500 Received: from mlbe2k5.cs.myharris.net ([192.107.153.229]) by mlbe2k1.cs.myharris.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:15:35 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:15:34 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <49662E6D.B65A.003A.0@auburn.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [manet] About the 802.11 SIFS value Thread-Index: Aclx6T80/kXlxgfsTca/5MFsYx4mxAAegqLg References: <49662E6D.B65A.003A.0@auburn.edu> From: "Townsend, Matthew" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2009 14:15:35.0870 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD855DE0:01C97264] Subject: Re: [manet] About the 802.11 SIFS value X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: manet-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org > 1- Why it is not set to a zero? Primarily this is to allow for processing time. The 802.11 Spec has to allow for multiple implementations and allow them to work together. While the relatively large values for SIFS may seem extreme in one system, they may be challenging to meet in others. (At least when the spec was written). > 2- how does any OS decide its value? Each 802.11 Phy has defined values. The 802.11g defines the SIFS to be 10us. The SIFS is the same for all data rates, again to allow multiple user types equal access. > Thank you, > Taha Ben Brahim Matt Townsend _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet From mshannon@advantageww.com Fri Jan 9 14:11:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9119F28C10E for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:11:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -19.415 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-19.415 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V2QESRklBFfI for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:11:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from akkza.com (unknown [189.62.122.80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CF3E03A695B for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:11:26 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Re: Order status 68532 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090109221126.CF3E03A695B@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:11:26 -0800 (PST)

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From manet-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 16 02:04:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: manet-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-manet-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511DF3A6A30; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:04:43 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: manet@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6FF3A696F for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:04:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.155 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.155 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_24=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id clI0JmjI-FGL for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:04:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-6-96.vip.sina.com (mail3-172.sinamail.sina.com.cn [202.108.3.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089B53A693F for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail5-204.sinamail.sina.com.cn (unknown [10.55.5.204]) by smtp-6-96.vip.sina.com (SINAMAIL) with ESMTP id ADE9B4CEDD7 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:04:21 +0800 (CST) Received: from unknown (HELO fe2953b3115b44a) ([222.161.127.223]) by mail5-204.sinamail.sina.com.cn with ESMTP; 16 Jan 2009 18:04:20 +0800 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:04:15 +0800 From: "shaoxun" To: "manet" , "ns-users@ISI.EDU" Message-ID: <200901161804151098462@vip.sina.com> X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 10, 201, 20 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [manet] A quesion about AODV X-BeenThere: manet@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile Ad-hoc Networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0962895785==" Sender: manet-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: manet-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0962895785== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====003_Dragon685580843745_=====" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=====003_Dragon685580843745_===== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Here si a question about AODV. in AODV::command(), there is code as below: if(argc == 2){ ...... if(strncasecmp(argv[1], "start", 2) == 0){ htimer.handle((Event*)0); // for periodically sending hello packets ...... } ...... } While in my OTcl scripts for simulation, there is no code like $aodv_ " xxx start", but only $ns_ at 10.0 "$ftp_ start" I wonder how could this make the code for periodically sending hello packets work? Thank you! Regards Shao --=====003_Dragon685580843745_===== Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi all,

Here si a question about AODV.

in AODV::command(), there is code as below:

if(argc == 2){

......

if(strncasecmp(argv[1], "start", 2) == 0){

htimer.handle((Event*)0); // for periodically sending hello packets

......

}

......

}

While in my OTcl scripts for simulation, there is no code like $aodv_ " xxx start", but only

$ns_ at 10.0 "$ftp_ start"

I wonder how could this make the code for periodically sending hello packets work?

Thank you!

Regards

Shao

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follow this link you will find the answer.
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Regards
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Hi all,
Here si a question about AODV. 
in AODV::command(), there is code as below:
    
    if(argc == 2){
        ......
        if(strncasecmp(argv[1], "start", 2) == 0){
                htimer.handle((Event*)0);   // for periodically sending hello
packets
                ......
        }
     
   ......
    }

While in my OTcl scripts for simulation, there is no code like $aodv_  "
xxx start", but only 
    $ns_  at 10.0 "$ftp_ start"

I wonder how could this  make the code for periodically sending hello packets
work?

Thank you!

Regards
Shao
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