From muraris@microsoft.com Wed Sep 23 06:01:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACD23A6830 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:01:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1YwZ32T3W0Ts for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.microsoft.com (mail1.microsoft.com [131.107.115.212]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4372E3A6842 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TK5EX14HUBC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.7.154) by TK5-EXGWY-E801.partners.extranet.microsoft.com (10.251.56.50) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:02:47 -0700 Received: from TK5EX14MBXC130.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([169.254.9.154]) by TK5EX14HUBC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.7.154]) with mapi; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:02:47 -0700 From: Murari Sridharan To: "ledbat@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: LEDBAT Status 9/23/09 Thread-Index: Aco8TiVWEnYV7Ui9RRuNElww9MuKJw== Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:02:46 +0000 Message-ID: <03520536067DF14395EA93FE7ECFDCF0045A3FE7@TK5EX14MBXC130.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_03520536067DF14395EA93FE7ECFDCF0045A3FE7TK5EX14MBXC130r_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [ledbat] LEDBAT Status 9/23/09 X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:01:56 -0000 --_000_03520536067DF14395EA93FE7ECFDCF0045A3FE7TK5EX14MBXC130r_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have two WG items and one that requires some new editors http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shulanov-ledbat-congestion ACTION: Several action items from the last meeting. Stas please update if = you have another document for the list to review. 1. Improve pverview of the congestion control and pseudo code 2. Explicitly talk about framing being out of scope 3. Experimental data/discussion for proving/disproving late comer's adva= ntage. Starvation or the lack of it 4. More discussion and data on fairness in the presence of multiple flow= s 5. Discussion on the choice of parameter values http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-penno-ledbat-app-practices-recommendations-0= 0.txt ACTION: Requires new editors, we had two volunteers (Rich and Vijay). Have = you guys picked this up, any updates here? http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-penno-ledbat-app-practices-recommendations-0= 0.txt Adopted as a WG item but I don't remember many reviews and discussion on wh= ether any related work needs to be added. Infact from the SFO meeting I rem= ember that not many people had read the document, hope people have had a ch= ance to read it since. ACTION: Provide more reviews and reference suggestion to Michael. Thanks --_000_03520536067DF14395EA93FE7ECFDCF0045A3FE7TK5EX14MBXC130r_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We have two WG items and one that requires some new ed= itors

http:/= /tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shulanov-ledbat-congestion=

ACTION: Several action items from the last meeting. Stas please update if you have another document for the list to review.

1.&n= bsp; Improve pverview of the congestion control a= nd pseudo code

2.&n= bsp; Explicitly talk about framing being out of s= cope

3.&n= bsp; Experimental data/discussion for proving/disproving late comer’s advantage. Starvation or the lack of = it

4.&n= bsp; More discussion and data on fairness in the presence of multiple flows

5.&n= bsp; Discussion on the choice of parameter values=

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-penno-ledbat-app-practices-re= commendations-00.txt

ACTION: Requires new editors, we had two volunteers (R= ich and Vijay). Have you guys picked this up, any updates here?

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-penno-ledbat-app-practices-re= commendations-00.txt

Adopted as a WG item but I don’t remember many r= eviews and discussion on whether any related work needs to be added. Infact from t= he SFO meeting I remember that not many people had read the document, hope peo= ple have had a chance to read it since.

ACTION: Provide more reviews and reference suggestion = to Michael.

Thanks

--_000_03520536067DF14395EA93FE7ECFDCF0045A3FE7TK5EX14MBXC130r_-- From vkg@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Sep 23 06:33:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640203A6828 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:33:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.444 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.444 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.155, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A+Lf4pBjYND9 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [135.245.0.33]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD8D3A6816 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from umail.lucent.com (h135-3-40-61.lucent.com [135.3.40.61]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id n8NDYcgL014768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:34:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [135.185.236.17] (il0015vkg1.ih.lucent.com [135.185.236.17]) by umail.lucent.com (8.13.8/TPES) with ESMTP id n8NDYbgA006306; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:34:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4ABA23ED.7030409@alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:34:37 -0500 From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" Organization: Bell Labs Security Technology Research Group User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murari Sridharan References: <03520536067DF14395EA93FE7ECFDCF0045A3FE7@TK5EX14MBXC130.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> In-Reply-To: <03520536067DF14395EA93FE7ECFDCF0045A3FE7@TK5EX14MBXC130.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.33 Cc: "ledbat@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ledbat] LEDBAT Status 9/23/09 X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:33:33 -0000 Murari Sridharan wrote: > We have two WG items and one that requires some new editors [...] > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-penno-ledbat-app-practices-recommendations-00.txt > > ACTION: Requires new editors, we had two volunteers (Rich and Vijay). > Have you guys picked this up, any updates here? No. Where we left it, I believe, after Stockholm is to wait for the current editor to start the ball rolling. So this is a good time to do this ... I will ping Reinaldo and go from there. Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) Email: vkg@{alcatel-lucent.com,bell-labs.com,acm.org} Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ From muraris@microsoft.com Wed Sep 23 06:35:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ledbat@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0423A6828 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:35:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xOiIw5EoniRt for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.microsoft.com (maila.microsoft.com [131.107.115.212]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D513A6816 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TK5EX14MLTC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.79.180) by TK5-EXGWY-E801.partners.extranet.microsoft.com (10.251.56.50) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:36:05 -0700 Received: from TK5EX14MBXC130.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([169.254.9.154]) by TK5EX14MLTC102.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.79.180]) with mapi; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:36:03 -0700 From: Murari Sridharan To: "Vijay K. Gurbani" Thread-Topic: [ledbat] LEDBAT Status 9/23/09 Thread-Index: AQHKPFK0n8JKJxUfY0O/OyBVJWAIjpDkLOZQ Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:36:00 +0000 Message-ID: <03520536067DF14395EA93FE7ECFDCF0045A5249@TK5EX14MBXC130.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> References: <03520536067DF14395EA93FE7ECFDCF0045A3FE7@TK5EX14MBXC130.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> <4ABA23ED.7030409@alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <4ABA23ED.7030409@alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ledbat@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [ledbat] LEDBAT Status 9/23/09 X-BeenThere: ledbat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailing list of the LEDBAT WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:35:05 -0000 Thanks Vijay.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Vijay K. Gurbani [mailto:vkg@alcatel-lucent.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:35 AM To: Murari Sridharan Cc: ledbat@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ledbat] LEDBAT Status 9/23/09 Murari Sridharan wrote: > We have two WG items and one that requires some new editors [...] > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-penno-ledbat-app-practices-recommendati > ons-00.txt >=20 > ACTION: Requires new editors, we had two volunteers (Rich and Vijay).=20 > Have you guys picked this up, any updates here? No. Where we left it, I believe, after Stockholm is to wait for the curren= t editor to start the ball rolling. So this is a good time to do this ... I will ping Reinaldo and go from ther= e. Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9= C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) Email: vkg@{alcatel-lucent.com,bell-labs.com,acm.org} Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/