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(14.Red-88-16-73.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [88.16.73.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm2732779bwz.15.2010.02.15.09.20.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:20:47 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Pere=F1=EDguez_Garcia?= Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:20:43 +0100 Message-Id: <6E9CEBF1-F1B0-44CB-9F7D-0400DE467ECA@gmail.com> To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Subject: [Ietf-krb-wg] Question about cryptographic protection of message fields X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9008815010280688330==" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov --===============9008815010280688330== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-184435109 --Apple-Mail-2-184435109 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, Looking for into the Kerberos specification and the MIT = implementation, I've found that not all the fields defined in the = Kerberos messages are cryptographically protected. For example, in the = KDC-REQ/KDC-REP, the padata field is sent in clear and (at least) is not = integrity protected. Therefore, an attacker can change the information = contained in any of these fields and the client is not able to detect = this attack. For this reason, I was wondering if my conclusions are = right.=20 Thanks in advance, Fernando.= --Apple-Mail-2-184435109 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi all,
   Looking for into the Kerberos specification and the MIT implementation, I've found that not all the fields defined in the Kerberos messages are cryptographically protected. For example, in the KDC-REQ/KDC-REP, the padata field is sent in clear and (at least) is not integrity protected. Therefore, an attacker can change the information contained in any of these fields and the client is not able to detect this attack. For this reason, I was wondering if my conclusions are right.

  Thanks in advance,
   Fernando.
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(14.Red-88-16-73.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [88.16.73.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm2732779bwz.15.2010.02.15.09.20.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:20:47 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Pere=F1=EDguez_Garcia?= Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:20:43 +0100 Message-Id: <6E9CEBF1-F1B0-44CB-9F7D-0400DE467ECA@gmail.com> To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Subject: [Ietf-krb-wg] Question about cryptographic protection of message fields X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2006406564655794789==" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov --===============2006406564655794789== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-184435109 --Apple-Mail-2-184435109 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, Looking for into the Kerberos specification and the MIT = implementation, I've found that not all the fields defined in the = Kerberos messages are cryptographically protected. For example, in the = KDC-REQ/KDC-REP, the padata field is sent in clear and (at least) is not = integrity protected. Therefore, an attacker can change the information = contained in any of these fields and the client is not able to detect = this attack. For this reason, I was wondering if my conclusions are = right.=20 Thanks in advance, Fernando.= --Apple-Mail-2-184435109 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi all,
   Looking for into the Kerberos specification and the MIT implementation, I've found that not all the fields defined in the Kerberos messages are cryptographically protected. For example, in the KDC-REQ/KDC-REP, the padata field is sent in clear and (at least) is not integrity protected. Therefore, an attacker can change the information contained in any of these fields and the client is not able to detect this attack. For this reason, I was wondering if my conclusions are right.

  Thanks in advance,
   Fernando.
--Apple-Mail-2-184435109-- --===============2006406564655794789== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg --===============2006406564655794789==-- From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Mon Feb 15 15:40:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130423A7BF0 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:40:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.489 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.489 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.110, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MxzoBtTi22yg for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F0C3A7BE9 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:40:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFA93B; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:41:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A7135; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:41:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4A080E38; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:41:45 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA69780DDF for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:41:42 -0600 (CST) Received: by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) id AD3BD32; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:41:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8ABA35 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:41:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A321F32 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:41:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAA87CC060; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:41:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09609-10; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:41:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FE47CC059 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:41:42 -0600 (CST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsBAJdqeUuAAtnFe2dsb2JhbACbGBUBARYkBR6wQ4QJiFWEWwSDFA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,480,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="37449790" Received: from smtp02.srv.cs.cmu.edu ([128.2.217.197]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2010 17:41:42 -0600 Received: from LYSITHEA.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU (LYSITHEA.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.172.62]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp02.srv.cs.cmu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o1FNffNm010938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:41:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:41:41 -0500 From: Jeffrey Hutzelman To: Larry Zhu , ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Message-ID: <426B30A0A79F0F3DF2236ADA@lysithea.fac.cs.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Scanned-By: mimedefang-cmuscs on 128.2.217.197 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: jhutz@cmu.edu Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] 3 editorial changes and one clarification based on draft-ietf-krb-wg-preauth-framework-15.txt X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov --On Saturday, December 19, 2009 10:26:57 AM +0000 Larry Zhu wrote: > I would like to request permissions from the working group to make the > following changes based on -15. > > we have 3 editorial issues to be address by the proposed changes below: Those changes are fine. > In addition, one page 31 it is not clearly spelled out how to fill out > the strength-reply although arguably it was clear in the context. I would > like to propose the following changes: This seems straightforward, and I haven't seen any objections. Please don't submit a new draft until we've worked out all the changes from Sam's last-call comments and from any other reviews/comments we've seen. -- Jeff _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From krb-wg-archive@lists.ietf.org Tue Feb 16 02:46:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5373A7CC1 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:46:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.675 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.675 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_DYNAMIC_SPLIT_IP=3.493, HELO_EQ_IP_ADDR=1.119, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.552, HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02=0.383, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, NUMERIC_HTTP_ADDR=0.001, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_FROM_DRUGS=1.666, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_SBL=20, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URI_HEX=0.368, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DNscnnUZRCUB for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:46:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from 213.25.176.101.unregistered.trzebnica.net (213.25.176.101.unregistered.trzebnica.net [213.25.176.101]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067A13A7CC2 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:46:34 -0800 (PST) From: "VIAGRA from Pfizer" To: krb-wg-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: krb-wg-archive Winter -80% Deals Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100216104635.067A13A7CC2@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:46:34 -0800 (PST) December 2009
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From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Thu Feb 18 03:45:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576FA28C1F9 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:45:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.045 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.045 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=3.554, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cHLDl2M9TJRk for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EC828C1CF for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F91D4F; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:46:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A644448; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:46:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDB980E46; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:46:49 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8C280E45 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:46:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0187CC082; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:46:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06512-06; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:46:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26CA7CC05F for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:46:47 -0600 (CST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkkBAIO3fEvS6CNBmWdsb2JhbACDA5gDFQEBAQEBCAsKBxMjrRgBj22BLYJSZwSDEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,496,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="37586155" Received: from mail12.ics.ntts.co.jp ([210.232.35.65]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 18 Feb 2010 05:46:46 -0600 Received: from sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp (sadoku34 [10.7.18.34]) by mail12.ics.ntts.co.jp (8.14.4/8.13.4/NTTSOFT) with ESMTP id o1IBkf2A008812; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:46:42 +0900 (JST) Received: (from root@localhost) by sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.13.8/NTTSOFT) id o1IBkfo8013549; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:46:41 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp [10.107.0.34] by sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp with SMTP id WAA13548; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:46:41 +0900 Received: from mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1IBkfub013591; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:46:41 +0900 Received: from mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/NTTSOFT) with ESMTP id o1IBkf36017420; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:46:41 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccmds34 (ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp [10.107.0.34]) by mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/NTTSOFT) with SMTP id o1IBkfLV017417; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:46:41 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:45:49 +0900 From: Satoru Kanno User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ja; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC-Mail-V4.2-Client X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC-Mail-V4.2-Server X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Dear Kerberos-WG, This draft is a collaborative effort between NTT and the MIT-KC to address the use of Kerberos with the Camellia cipher using CTS mode. A forthcoming separate draft will address the use of Camellia in GCM mode. We request a time-slot for presenting this work at the coming IETF-77 in March 2010. This draft appears with the following URL. URL: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-krb-wg-kanno-camellia-00.txt Best regards, -- Satoru Kanno Security Business Unit Mobile and Security Solution Business Group NTT Software Corporation e-mail: kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Thu Feb 18 05:11:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AD83A7DE7 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:11:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.42 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.42 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.179, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R7ga1kQdEmBI for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:11:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA3228C205 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:11:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1771755; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:12:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id E545648; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:12:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id B689E2CC071; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:12:41 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B07080E45 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:12:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEE77CC084; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:12:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18869-01; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:12:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6305D7CC082 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:12:38 -0600 (CST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicEAG/LfEtT8bEngWdsb2JhbACbCBUBARYkI75dDIRbBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,497,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="37589166" Received: from yxa-v.extundo.com ([83.241.177.39]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 18 Feb 2010 07:12:36 -0600 Received: from mocca (c80-216-24-99.bredband.comhem.se [80.216.24.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa-v.extundo.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o1IDC6bU019911 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:12:10 +0100 From: Simon Josefsson To: Satoru Kanno References: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:100218:kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp::COLsb/B/2TMKGmJz:FPXL X-Hashcash: 1:22:100218:ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov::Vum4vSUzo7aPPwrN:FCW7 X-Hashcash: 1:22:100218:kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp::V2CTNZ4PRomvAwRR:bCeT Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:12:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> (Satoru Kanno's message of "Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:45:49 +0900") Message-ID: <87635ug02h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov, kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Satoru Kanno writes: > Dear Kerberos-WG, > > This draft is a collaborative effort between NTT and the MIT-KC > to address the use of Kerberos with the Camellia cipher using CTS mode. > A forthcoming separate draft will address the use of Camellia in GCM mode. Interesting! May I remind you to file proper patent disclosures on this? I find nothing for: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_tag=19648 I recall earlier patent disclosures to the IETF about Camellia, but the IETF search engine doesn't appear to find them now (perhaps they have been removed...). In any way, information about the patent appears to be wildly known: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia_%28cipher%29#Patent_status /Simon _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Fri Feb 19 02:58:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7564C28C246 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:58:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.822 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.822 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.777, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GP69e4X85Jwl for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC1228C23C for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC292F; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 05:00:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565BC4D; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:59:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C19C80E45; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:59:59 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6405A80DDF for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:59:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439877CC059; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:59:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09415-08; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:59:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283EA7CC056 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:59:56 -0600 (CST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah0DAFj9fUvS6CNBgWdsb2JhbACbBxUBARYkI7xGhGcEgxM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,502,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="37644346" Received: from mail12.ics.ntts.co.jp ([210.232.35.65]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 19 Feb 2010 04:59:56 -0600 Received: from sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp (sadoku34 [10.7.18.34]) by mail12.ics.ntts.co.jp (8.14.4/8.13.4/NTTSOFT) with ESMTP id o1JAxYVj017145; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:59:34 +0900 (JST) Received: (from root@localhost) by sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.13.8/NTTSOFT) id o1JAxYON025450; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:59:34 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp [10.107.0.34] by sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp with SMTP id VAA25449; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:59:34 +0900 Received: from mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1JAxXab023789; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:59:34 +0900 Received: from mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/NTTSOFT) with ESMTP id o1JAxYGP015242; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:59:34 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccmds34 (ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp [10.107.0.34]) by mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/NTTSOFT) with SMTP id o1JAxYpu015239; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:59:34 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4B7E6EEE.60602@po.ntts.co.jp> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:58:54 +0900 From: Satoru Kanno User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ja; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Josefsson References: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> <87635ug02h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> In-Reply-To: <87635ug02h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC-Mail-V4.2-Client X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC-Mail-V4.2-Server X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov, kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Dear Simon, Thanks for your email. (2010/02/18 22:12), Simon Josefsson wrote: >> This draft is a collaborative effort between NTT and the MIT-KC >> to address the use of Kerberos with the Camellia cipher using CTS mode. >> A forthcoming separate draft will address the use of Camellia in GCM mode. > > Interesting! May I remind you to file proper patent disclosures on > this? I find nothing for: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_tag=19648 > > I recall earlier patent disclosures to the IETF about Camellia, but the > IETF search engine doesn't appear to find them now (perhaps they have > been removed...). In any way, information about the patent appears to > be wildly known: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia_%28cipher%29#Patent_status Camellia's IPR is shown as a following URL. Of course, this IPR is applied to Kerberos. http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/mitsubishi-ntt-joint-ipr-disclosure.pdf As additional information, we have prepared web page about the Patent of NTT Crypto algorithm (e.g., Camellia, PSEC-KEM, and ESIGN etc.) If you were interested in NTT's crypto algorithms, please check following URL: http://info.isl.ntt.co.jp/crypt/eng/info/chiteki.html Best regards, -- Satoru Kanno Security Business Unit Mobile and Security Solution Business Group NTT Software Corporation e-mail: kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From krb-wg-archive@lists.ietf.org Fri Feb 19 03:16:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A149B3A7CAB for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:16:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.988 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.988 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP=1.398, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_HU=1.35, HOST_EQ_BROADBND=1.118, HOST_EQ_HU=1.245, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02=0.383, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_FROM_DRUGS=1.666, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_SBL=20, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, URI_HEX=0.368, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tILJvffo-8mw for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from catv-89-135-21-139.catv.broadband.hu (catv-89-135-21-139.catv.broadband.hu [89.135.21.139]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB143A73C7 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:16:05 -0800 (PST) From: "Pfizer (tm) VIAGRA (c)" To: krb-wg-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: Personal krb-wg-archive 75% Off MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20100219111605.DCB143A73C7@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:16:05 -0800 (PST) User krb-wg-archive Newsletter
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From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Fri Feb 19 04:38:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACFA28C258 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:38:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.012, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kHC7xdohkdxM for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB82B28C1F9 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363AB4A; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:39:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6020C36; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:39:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A45280E45; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:39:44 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6485180DDF for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:39:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CE57CC077; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:39:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21978-08; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:39:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7637CC05A for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:39:41 -0600 (CST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah0DALsUfktT8bEngWdsb2JhbACbBxUBARYkI7xRDIRbBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,503,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="37647357" Received: from yxa-v.extundo.com ([83.241.177.39]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 19 Feb 2010 06:39:40 -0600 Received: from mocca (c80-216-24-99.bredband.comhem.se [80.216.24.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa-v.extundo.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o1JCdUIw016889 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:39:32 +0100 From: Simon Josefsson To: Satoru Kanno References: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> <87635ug02h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4B7E6EEE.60602@po.ntts.co.jp> OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:100219:kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp::tjUKPbIAYnMk4qGC:vmi X-Hashcash: 1:22:100219:kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp::XUkcnqo+jo/nI7uO:74Ci X-Hashcash: 1:22:100219:ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov::c/xze/367Sm1Smrn:EO28 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:39:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4B7E6EEE.60602@po.ntts.co.jp> (Satoru Kanno's message of "Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:58:54 +0900") Message-ID: <87zl359z7h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov, kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Satoru Kanno writes: > Dear Simon, > > Thanks for your email. > > (2010/02/18 22:12), Simon Josefsson wrote: >>> This draft is a collaborative effort between NTT and the MIT-KC >>> to address the use of Kerberos with the Camellia cipher using CTS mode. >>> A forthcoming separate draft will address the use of Camellia in GCM mode. >> >> Interesting! May I remind you to file proper patent disclosures on >> this? I find nothing for: >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_tag=19648 >> >> I recall earlier patent disclosures to the IETF about Camellia, but the >> IETF search engine doesn't appear to find them now (perhaps they have >> been removed...). In any way, information about the patent appears to >> be wildly known: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia_%28cipher%29#Patent_status > > Camellia's IPR is shown as a following URL. > Of course, this IPR is applied to Kerberos. > > http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/mitsubishi-ntt-joint-ipr-disclosure.pdf That grants rights for using Camellia with "IP sec" only. I believe you need to prepare a similar statement that says Kerberos instead, alternatively (and preferably) grant rights to Camellia for any use. /Simon _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From krb-wg-archive@lists.ietf.org Fri Feb 19 07:01:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABAC3A7DD5 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:01:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -34.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-34.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.552, HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02=0.383, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_FROM_DRUGS=1.666, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_SBL=20, URI_HEX=0.368, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nIN9RdLXzCvt for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-64-144-104-200.cm.vtr.net (pc-64-144-104-200.cm.vtr.net [200.104.144.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA773A7C18 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:01:05 -0800 (PST) From: "VIAGRA from Pfizer" To: krb-wg-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: krb-wg-archive Winter -80% Deals Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100219150105.ACA773A7C18@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:01:05 -0800 (PST) December 2009
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From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Sat Feb 20 20:17:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8130F28C0CF for ; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:17:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YM3ungXpgYFU for ; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3743A7F41 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A3E28; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:19:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5484112; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:19:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8AA80E45; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:19:30 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4537A80E31 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:19:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257427CC076; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:19:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07054-08; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:19:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7887CC059 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:19:28 -0600 (CST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvMAANFCgEsR/g0XkWdsb2JhbACbFRUBAQEBCQsKBxMFHbpphGsEgxWCfQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,511,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="37704952" Received: from mail-out4.apple.com ([17.254.13.23]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 20 Feb 2010 22:19:27 -0600 Received: from relay13.apple.com (relay13.apple.com [17.128.113.29]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4404F8D4BB60 for ; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:19:27 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 1180711d-b7b18ae000001001-37-4b80b44f3026 Received: from et.apple.com (et.apple.com [17.151.62.12]) by relay13.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id 03.41.04097.F44B08B4; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:19:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (adsl-71-158-241-78.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [71.158.241.78]) by et.apple.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KY6005SZC0EK080@et.apple.com> for ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov; Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:19:27 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Love_H=F6rnquist_=C5strand?= In-reply-to: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:19:26 -0800 Message-id: <0199AD85-2E1D-4A93-9992-02D7B14541A2@apple.com> References: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> To: Satoru Kanno X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1137) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAZE= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov, kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Satoru, To generate an encryption key from a pass phrase and salt string, the Camellia uses the PBKDF2 function from PKCS #5 v2.0 [RFC2898]. This function of Camellia can define as same specification of AES [RFC3962] The pseudorandom function used by PBKDF2 will be a SHA-1 HMAC of the passphrase and salt. The case of AES described in Appendix B of [RFC3962]. For pseudorandom function, Camellia can use like an AES. The second sentence is not very clear, and can partly be dropped. I assume you are using PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA1, using the same way as used in AES. The pseudeo-random function (PRF) is the same as AES, except that camelia is used instead of AES. I'm not going to worry about that AES and camellia uses the the same key, maybe its a feature ? Love 18 feb 2010 kl. 03:45 skrev Satoru Kanno: > Dear Kerberos-WG, > > This draft is a collaborative effort between NTT and the MIT-KC > to address the use of Kerberos with the Camellia cipher using CTS mode. > A forthcoming separate draft will address the use of Camellia in GCM mode. > > We request a time-slot for presenting this work at the coming IETF-77 in > March 2010. > > This draft appears with the following URL. > URL: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-krb-wg-kanno-camellia-00.txt > > Best regards, > > -- > Satoru Kanno > > Security Business Unit > Mobile and Security Solution Business Group > NTT Software Corporation > > e-mail: kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp > > _______________________________________________ > ietf-krb-wg mailing list > ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Sun Feb 21 21:00:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB0B28C236 for ; 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21 Feb 2010 23:02:28 -0600 Received: from sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp (sadoku34 [10.7.18.34]) by mail12.ics.ntts.co.jp (8.14.4/8.13.4/NTTSOFT) with ESMTP id o1M5256V018305; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:02:05 +0900 (JST) Received: (from root@localhost) by sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.13.8/NTTSOFT) id o1M5251D005990; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:02:05 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp [10.107.0.34] by sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp with SMTP id QAA05989; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:02:05 +0900 Received: from mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o1M524Jb012273; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:02:05 +0900 Received: from mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/NTTSOFT) with ESMTP id o1M525Q0013714; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:02:05 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccmds34 (ccmds34.silk.ntts.co.jp [10.107.0.34]) by mail127.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/NTTSOFT) with SMTP id o1M524PL013711; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:02:04 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4B820FA2.6040400@po.ntts.co.jp> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:01:22 +0900 From: Satoru Kanno User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ja; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Josefsson References: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> <87635ug02h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4B7E6EEE.60602@po.ntts.co.jp> <87zl359z7h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> In-Reply-To: <87zl359z7h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC-Mail-V4.2-Client X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC-Mail-V4.2-Server X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov, kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Dear Simon, Thank you for your comment. (2010/02/19 21:39), Simon Josefsson wrote: > Satoru Kanno writes: > >> Dear Simon, >> >> Thanks for your email. >> >> (2010/02/18 22:12), Simon Josefsson wrote: >>>> This draft is a collaborative effort between NTT and the MIT-KC >>>> to address the use of Kerberos with the Camellia cipher using CTS mode. >>>> A forthcoming separate draft will address the use of Camellia in GCM mode. >>> >>> Interesting! May I remind you to file proper patent disclosures on >>> this? I find nothing for: >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_tag=19648 >>> >>> I recall earlier patent disclosures to the IETF about Camellia, but the >>> IETF search engine doesn't appear to find them now (perhaps they have >>> been removed...). In any way, information about the patent appears to >>> be wildly known: >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia_%28cipher%29#Patent_status >> >> Camellia's IPR is shown as a following URL. >> Of course, this IPR is applied to Kerberos. >> >> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/mitsubishi-ntt-joint-ipr-disclosure.pdf > > That grants rights for using Camellia with "IP sec" only. I believe you > need to prepare a similar statement that says Kerberos instead, > alternatively (and preferably) grant rights to Camellia for any use. Now, we are preparing Camellia IPR for Kerberos. This IPR style is similar to the letter of IPsec. Best regards, Satoru > /Simon > -- Satoru Kanno Security Business Unit Mobile and Security Solution Business Group NTT Software Corporation e-mail: kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From krb-wg-archive@lists.ietf.org Mon Feb 22 15:33:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C61F28C430 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:33:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -42.379 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-42.379 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_95=3, HELO_EQ_CZ=0.445, HOST_EQ_BROADBND=1.118, HOST_EQ_CZ=0.904, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02=0.383, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_3=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URI_HEX=0.368, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6kuBWRRs1Gui for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from 159.68.broadband10.iol.cz (159.68.broadband10.iol.cz [90.177.68.159]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A0A28C200 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:32:57 -0800 (PST) From: "SuperShop on-line" To: krb-wg-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: For krb-wg-archive,we return to -80% prices Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100222233300.92A0A28C200@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:32:57 -0800 (PST)
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From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Wed Feb 24 08:37:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575AC28C121 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:37:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.432 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.432 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=3.167, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id adq-qBpkDwHw for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:37:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B2E28C108 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCE133; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:39:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A994934; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:39:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700C380E46; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:39:28 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF9380E45 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:39:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6FF7CC065; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:39:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29952-06; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:39:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6460B7CC05A for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:39:26 -0600 (CST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtQCAMfkhEtD3icmimdsb2JhbACQY4pDAQEBCgkMBxEFH65+jhYEhHKDGoJ/ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,532,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="37866825" Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com ([67.222.39.38]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with SMTP; 24 Feb 2010 10:39:25 -0600 Received: (qmail 26069 invoked by uid 0); 24 Feb 2010 16:39:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box251.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.51) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2010 16:39:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=hardjono.net; h=Received:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-Identified-User; b=Zm89d/3Qt5588+QxIdrTcIMuMxjJxjQ9LlsduRYCBH29IFngh+cmdZ5SsRzsKKu8CHPsCreXcy7Yhz2t9wpcleh4qsZHDW3AuA/aJyX9Lq6bro30tMBM7YS3B1v0zQOR; Received: from dhcp-18-111-113-209.dyn.mit.edu ([18.111.113.209] helo=WINCE7P9IL9EJ0) by box251.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NkKGT-00028d-Hm; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:39:25 -0700 From: "Thomas Hardjono" To: References: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> <87635ug02h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4B7E6EEE.60602@po.ntts.co.jp> <87zl359z7h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4B820FA2.6040400@po.ntts.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <4B820FA2.6040400@po.ntts.co.jp> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:39:03 -0500 Message-ID: <003901cab56f$ecb08870$c6119950$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcqzfD8iCazBE2CbQ52TNAIuLIF8xgB8po9w Content-Language: en-us X-Identified-User: {727:box251.bluehost.com:hardjono:hardjono.net} {sentby:smtp auth 18.111.113.209 authed with ietf@hardjono.net} X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Aside from the technical comments from Love and the IP-related questions from Simon, we have not received any more comments about this draft. Initially we were going to prepare some slides to present to the WG at IETF77. However, since the WG generally tries to avoid "presentations" (I am told), we'll therefore just be ready to answer questions. PS. Since this draft is not as yet a WG work-item, the name of the draft will be changed to an individual submission. /thomas/ > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov [mailto:ietf-krb-wg- > bounces@lists.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Satoru Kanno > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:01 AM > To: Simon Josefsson > Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov; kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp > Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos > > Dear Simon, > > Thank you for your comment. > > (2010/02/19 21:39), Simon Josefsson wrote: > > Satoru Kanno writes: > > > >> Dear Simon, > >> > >> Thanks for your email. > >> > >> (2010/02/18 22:12), Simon Josefsson wrote: > >>>> This draft is a collaborative effort between NTT and the MIT-KC > >>>> to address the use of Kerberos with the Camellia cipher using CTS mode. > >>>> A forthcoming separate draft will address the use of Camellia in GCM > mode. > >>> > >>> Interesting! May I remind you to file proper patent disclosures on > >>> this? I find nothing for: > >>> > >>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_ t > ag=19648 > >>> > >>> I recall earlier patent disclosures to the IETF about Camellia, but the > >>> IETF search engine doesn't appear to find them now (perhaps they have > >>> been removed...). In any way, information about the patent appears to > >>> be wildly known: > >>> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia_%28cipher%29#Patent_status > >> > >> Camellia's IPR is shown as a following URL. > >> Of course, this IPR is applied to Kerberos. > >> > >> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/mitsubishi-ntt-joint-ipr-disclosure.pdf > > > > That grants rights for using Camellia with "IP sec" only. I believe you > > need to prepare a similar statement that says Kerberos instead, > > alternatively (and preferably) grant rights to Camellia for any use. > > Now, we are preparing Camellia IPR for Kerberos. This IPR style is > similar to the letter of IPsec. > > Best regards, > Satoru > > > > /Simon > > > > > -- > Satoru Kanno > > Security Business Unit > Mobile and Security Solution Business Group > NTT Software Corporation > > e-mail: kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp > > _______________________________________________ > ietf-krb-wg mailing list > ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Wed Feb 24 08:39:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629D328C108 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:39:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zYYxF7b3lrJb for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:39:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132CA3A77D0 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:39:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FB430; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:41:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE493A; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:41:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE27F80E46; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:41:15 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369CE80E45 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:41:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C397CC05A; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:41:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30674-05; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:41:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8551B7CC05E for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:41:13 -0600 (CST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnIEAOPlhEvYmteagWdsb2JhbACbERUBARYkIr0ehHIEhhU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,532,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="37866980" Received: from us.padl.com ([216.154.215.154]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 24 Feb 2010 10:41:13 -0600 Received: by us.padl.com with ESMTP id o1OGf1Xq031911; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:41:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) From: Luke Howard In-Reply-To: <003901cab56f$ecb08870$c6119950$@net> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:41:02 +0000 Message-Id: <528903D2-88AC-46D3-A15E-7307C2727F97@padl.com> References: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> <87635ug02h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4B7E6EEE.60602@po.ntts.co.jp> <87zl359z7h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4B820FA2.6040400@po.ntts.co.jp> <003901cab56f$ecb08870$c6119950$@net> To: "Thomas Hardjono" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.3.6 X-Spamd-Symbols: AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC X-SMTP-Vilter-Spam-Backend: spamd X-Spam-Threshold: 5.0 X-Spam-Probability: -0.5 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Would it better to use a more modern hash function? I appreciate the desire to not diverge too much from AES CTS but this isn't a major change. -- Luke On 24/02/2010, at 4:39 PM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: > Aside from the technical comments from Love > and the IP-related questions from Simon, we have not received > any more comments about this draft. > > Initially we were going to prepare some slides > to present to the WG at IETF77. However, since the > WG generally tries to avoid "presentations" (I am told), > we'll therefore just be ready to answer questions. > > PS. Since this draft is not as yet a WG work-item, > the name of the draft will be changed to an individual > submission. > > /thomas/ > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov [mailto:ietf-krb-wg- >> bounces@lists.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Satoru Kanno >> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:01 AM >> To: Simon Josefsson >> Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov; kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp >> Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos >> >> Dear Simon, >> >> Thank you for your comment. >> >> (2010/02/19 21:39), Simon Josefsson wrote: >>> Satoru Kanno writes: >>> >>>> Dear Simon, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your email. >>>> >>>> (2010/02/18 22:12), Simon Josefsson wrote: >>>>>> This draft is a collaborative effort between NTT and the MIT-KC >>>>>> to address the use of Kerberos with the Camellia cipher using CTS > mode. >>>>>> A forthcoming separate draft will address the use of Camellia in GCM >> mode. >>>>> >>>>> Interesting! May I remind you to file proper patent disclosures on >>>>> this? I find nothing for: >>>>> >>>>> >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_ > t >> ag=19648 >>>>> >>>>> I recall earlier patent disclosures to the IETF about Camellia, but > the >>>>> IETF search engine doesn't appear to find them now (perhaps they have >>>>> been removed...). In any way, information about the patent appears to >>>>> be wildly known: >>>>> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia_%28cipher%29#Patent_status >>>> >>>> Camellia's IPR is shown as a following URL. >>>> Of course, this IPR is applied to Kerberos. >>>> >>>> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/mitsubishi-ntt-joint-ipr-disclosure.pdf >>> >>> That grants rights for using Camellia with "IP sec" only. I believe you >>> need to prepare a similar statement that says Kerberos instead, >>> alternatively (and preferably) grant rights to Camellia for any use. >> >> Now, we are preparing Camellia IPR for Kerberos. This IPR style is >> similar to the letter of IPsec. >> >> Best regards, >> Satoru >> >> >>> /Simon >>> >> >> >> -- >> Satoru Kanno >> >> Security Business Unit >> Mobile and Security Solution Business Group >> NTT Software Corporation >> >> e-mail: kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ietf-krb-wg mailing list >> ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov >> https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg > > _______________________________________________ > ietf-krb-wg mailing list > ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg > -- www.padl.com | www.fghr.net _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Wed Feb 24 08:45:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C6F28C16F for ; 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24 Feb 2010 10:47:52 -0600 X-AuditID: 1209190d-b7cf8ae00000096b-41-4b855838a251 Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (MAILHUB-AUTH-4.MIT.EDU [18.7.62.39]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-2.mit.edu (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id A2.AE.02411.838558B4; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-EXCHANGE-1.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.15]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id o1OGlqoE008149; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:47:52 -0500 Received: from oc11exedge2.exchange.mit.edu (OC11EXEDGE2.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.9.3.18]) ) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id o1OGlp97028125; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:47:51 -0500 Received: from w92exhub6.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.73.12) by oc11exedge2.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.3.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.393.1; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:47:00 -0500 Received: from EXPO10.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.4.15]) by w92exhub6.exchange.mit.edu ([18.7.73.12]) with mapi; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:47:50 -0500 From: Thomas Hardjono To: "lukeh@PADL.COM" Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:47:47 -0500 Thread-Topic: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos Thread-Index: Acq1cC+3HsPSMPVbTZ+osTGQnyCPSgAAMvhQ Message-ID: References: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> <87635ug02h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4B7E6EEE.60602@po.ntts.co.jp> <87zl359z7h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4B820FA2.6040400@po.ntts.co.jp> <003901cab56f$ecb08870$c6119950$@net> <528903D2-88AC-46D3-A15E-7307C2727F97@padl.com> In-Reply-To: <528903D2-88AC-46D3-A15E-7307C2727F97@padl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: "ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov" Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Hi Luke, Any specific modern hash functions in mind? Thanks. /thomas/ > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov [mailto:ietf-krb-wg- > bounces@lists.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Luke Howard > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:41 AM > To: Thomas Hardjono > Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos > > Would it better to use a more modern hash function? I appreciate the desire > to not diverge too much from AES CTS but this isn't a major change. > > -- Luke > > On 24/02/2010, at 4:39 PM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: > > > Aside from the technical comments from Love > > and the IP-related questions from Simon, we have not received > > any more comments about this draft. > > > > Initially we were going to prepare some slides > > to present to the WG at IETF77. However, since the > > WG generally tries to avoid "presentations" (I am told), > > we'll therefore just be ready to answer questions. > > > > PS. Since this draft is not as yet a WG work-item, > > the name of the draft will be changed to an individual > > submission. > > > > /thomas/ > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov [mailto:ietf-krb-wg- > >> bounces@lists.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Satoru Kanno > >> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:01 AM > >> To: Simon Josefsson > >> Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov; kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp > >> Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos > >> > >> Dear Simon, > >> > >> Thank you for your comment. > >> > >> (2010/02/19 21:39), Simon Josefsson wrote: > >>> Satoru Kanno writes: > >>> > >>>> Dear Simon, > >>>> > >>>> Thanks for your email. > >>>> > >>>> (2010/02/18 22:12), Simon Josefsson wrote: > >>>>>> This draft is a collaborative effort between NTT and the MIT-KC > >>>>>> to address the use of Kerberos with the Camellia cipher using CTS > > mode. > >>>>>> A forthcoming separate draft will address the use of Camellia in GCM > >> mode. > >>>>> > >>>>> Interesting! May I remind you to file proper patent disclosures on > >>>>> this? I find nothing for: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_ > > t > >> ag=19648 > >>>>> > >>>>> I recall earlier patent disclosures to the IETF about Camellia, but > > the > >>>>> IETF search engine doesn't appear to find them now (perhaps they have > >>>>> been removed...). In any way, information about the patent appears to > >>>>> be wildly known: > >>>>> > >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia_%28cipher%29#Patent_status > >>>> > >>>> Camellia's IPR is shown as a following URL. > >>>> Of course, this IPR is applied to Kerberos. > >>>> > >>>> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/mitsubishi-ntt-joint-ipr-disclosure.pdf > >>> > >>> That grants rights for using Camellia with "IP sec" only. I believe you > >>> need to prepare a similar statement that says Kerberos instead, > >>> alternatively (and preferably) grant rights to Camellia for any use. > >> > >> Now, we are preparing Camellia IPR for Kerberos. This IPR style is > >> similar to the letter of IPsec. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Satoru > >> > >> > >>> /Simon > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Satoru Kanno > >> > >> Security Business Unit > >> Mobile and Security Solution Business Group > >> NTT Software Corporation > >> > >> e-mail: kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> ietf-krb-wg mailing list > >> ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > >> https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ietf-krb-wg mailing list > > ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > > https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg > > > > -- > www.padl.com | www.fghr.net > > _______________________________________________ > ietf-krb-wg mailing list > ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Wed Feb 24 08:47:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2F53A849E for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:47:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oMZJPcgOr0WI for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22EE3A8401 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.anl.gov (mailhost.anl.gov [130.202.113.50]) by localhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA1A30; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:49:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from lists.anl.gov (katydid.it.anl.gov [146.137.96.32]) by mailhost.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC3337; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:49:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from katydid.it.anl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2704B80E46; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:49:46 -0600 (CST) X-Original-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Delivered-To: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov (mailrelay.anl.gov [130.202.101.22]) by lists.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A344780E45 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:49:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.it.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883937CC05D; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:49:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailrelay.anl.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailrelay.anl.gov [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01264-03; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:49:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailgateway.anl.gov (mailgateway.anl.gov [130.202.101.28]) by mailrelay.anl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022607CC059 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:49:43 -0600 (CST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnIEABnnhEvYmteagWdsb2JhbACbERUBARYkIr0YhHIEhhWIHQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,532,1262584800"; d="scan'208";a="37867638" Received: from us.padl.com ([216.154.215.154]) by mailgateway.anl.gov with ESMTP; 24 Feb 2010 10:49:42 -0600 Received: by us.padl.com with ESMTP id o1OGnOpf021995; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:49:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) From: Luke Howard In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:49:25 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4B7D286D.3000203@po.ntts.co.jp> <87635ug02h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4B7E6EEE.60602@po.ntts.co.jp> <87zl359z7h.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4B820FA2.6040400@po.ntts.co.jp> <003901cab56f$ecb08870$c6119950$@net> <528903D2-88AC-46D3-A15E-7307C2727F97@padl.com> To: Thomas Hardjono X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.3.6 X-Spamd-Symbols: AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC X-SMTP-Vilter-Spam-Backend: spamd X-Spam-Threshold: 5.0 X-Spam-Probability: -0.5 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at frigga.it.anl.gov Cc: "ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov" Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos X-BeenThere: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is a list for the IETF Kerberos Working Group. {WORLDPUB, EXTERNAL}" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov I'm no cryptography expert, of course. I was simply thinking of SHA-2. -- Luke On 24/02/2010, at 4:47 PM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: > > Hi Luke, > > Any specific modern hash functions in mind? > > Thanks. > > /thomas/ > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov [mailto:ietf-krb-wg- >> bounces@lists.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Luke Howard >> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:41 AM >> To: Thomas Hardjono >> Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov >> Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos >> >> Would it better to use a more modern hash function? I appreciate the desire >> to not diverge too much from AES CTS but this isn't a major change. >> >> -- Luke >> >> On 24/02/2010, at 4:39 PM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: >> >>> Aside from the technical comments from Love >>> and the IP-related questions from Simon, we have not received >>> any more comments about this draft. >>> >>> Initially we were going to prepare some slides >>> to present to the WG at IETF77. However, since the >>> WG generally tries to avoid "presentations" (I am told), >>> we'll therefore just be ready to answer questions. >>> >>> PS. Since this draft is not as yet a WG work-item, >>> the name of the draft will be changed to an individual >>> submission. >>> >>> /thomas/ >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov [mailto:ietf-krb-wg- >>>> bounces@lists.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Satoru Kanno >>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:01 AM >>>> To: Simon Josefsson >>>> Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov; kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp >>>> Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos >>>> >>>> Dear Simon, >>>> >>>> Thank you for your comment. >>>> >>>> (2010/02/19 21:39), Simon Josefsson wrote: >>>>> Satoru Kanno writes: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Simon, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your email. >>>>>> >>>>>> (2010/02/18 22:12), Simon Josefsson wrote: >>>>>>>> This draft is a collaborative effort between NTT and the MIT-KC >>>>>>>> to address the use of Kerberos with the Camellia cipher using CTS >>> mode. >>>>>>>> A forthcoming separate draft will address the use of Camellia in GCM >>>> mode. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting! May I remind you to file proper patent disclosures on >>>>>>> this? I find nothing for: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_ >>> t >>>> ag=19648 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recall earlier patent disclosures to the IETF about Camellia, but >>> the >>>>>>> IETF search engine doesn't appear to find them now (perhaps they have >>>>>>> been removed...). In any way, information about the patent appears to >>>>>>> be wildly known: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia_%28cipher%29#Patent_status >>>>>> >>>>>> Camellia's IPR is shown as a following URL. >>>>>> Of course, this IPR is applied to Kerberos. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/mitsubishi-ntt-joint-ipr-disclosure.pdf >>>>> >>>>> That grants rights for using Camellia with "IP sec" only. I believe you >>>>> need to prepare a similar statement that says Kerberos instead, >>>>> alternatively (and preferably) grant rights to Camellia for any use. >>>> >>>> Now, we are preparing Camellia IPR for Kerberos. This IPR style is >>>> similar to the letter of IPsec. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Satoru >>>> >>>> >>>>> /Simon >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Satoru Kanno >>>> >>>> Security Business Unit >>>> Mobile and Security Solution Business Group >>>> NTT Software Corporation >>>> >>>> e-mail: kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ietf-krb-wg mailing list >>>> ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov >>>> https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ietf-krb-wg mailing list >>> ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov >>> https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg >>> >> >> -- >> www.padl.com | www.fghr.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ietf-krb-wg mailing list >> ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov >> https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg > -- www.padl.com | www.fghr.net _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Wed Feb 24 08:50:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7271428C1D5 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Oh ok, thanks :) Is the WG ok with that? /thomas/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Luke Howard [mailto:lukeh@padl.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:49 AM > To: Thomas Hardjono > Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos > > I'm no cryptography expert, of course. I was simply thinking of SHA-2. > > -- Luke > > On 24/02/2010, at 4:47 PM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: > > > > > Hi Luke, > > > > Any specific modern hash functions in mind? > > > > Thanks. > > > > /thomas/ > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov [mailto:ietf-krb-wg- > >> bounces@lists.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Luke Howard > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:41 AM > >> To: Thomas Hardjono > >> Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > >> Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos > >> > >> Would it better to use a more modern hash function? I appreciate the > desire > >> to not diverge too much from AES CTS but this isn't a major change. > >> > >> -- Luke > >> > >> On 24/02/2010, at 4:39 PM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: > >> > >>> Aside from the technical comments from Love > >>> and the IP-related questions from Simon, we have not received > >>> any more comments about this draft. > >>> > >>> Initially we were going to prepare some slides > >>> to present to the WG at IETF77. However, since the > >>> WG generally tries to avoid "presentations" (I am told), > >>> we'll therefore just be ready to answer questions. > >>> > >>> PS. Since this draft is not as yet a WG work-item, > >>> the name of the draft will be changed to an individual > >>> submission. > >>> > >>> /thomas/ > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov [mailto:ietf-krb-wg- > >>>> bounces@lists.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Satoru Kanno > >>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:01 AM > >>>> To: Simon Josefsson > >>>> Cc: ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov; kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp > >>>> Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Camellia-CTS for Kerberos > >>>> > >>>> Dear Simon, > >>>> > >>>> Thank you for your comment. > >>>> > >>>> (2010/02/19 21:39), Simon Josefsson wrote: > >>>>> Satoru Kanno writes: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Simon, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks for your email. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (2010/02/18 22:12), Simon Josefsson wrote: > >>>>>>>> This draft is a collaborative effort between NTT and the MIT-KC > >>>>>>>> to address the use of Kerberos with the Camellia cipher using CTS > >>> mode. > >>>>>>>> A forthcoming separate draft will address the use of Camellia in GCM > >>>> mode. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Interesting! May I remind you to file proper patent disclosures on > >>>>>>> this? I find nothing for: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_ > >>> t > >>>> ag=19648 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I recall earlier patent disclosures to the IETF about Camellia, but > >>> the > >>>>>>> IETF search engine doesn't appear to find them now (perhaps they have > >>>>>>> been removed...). In any way, information about the patent appears > to > >>>>>>> be wildly known: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camellia_%28cipher%29#Patent_status > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Camellia's IPR is shown as a following URL. > >>>>>> Of course, this IPR is applied to Kerberos. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/mitsubishi-ntt-joint-ipr-disclosure.pdf > >>>>> > >>>>> That grants rights for using Camellia with "IP sec" only. I believe > you > >>>>> need to prepare a similar statement that says Kerberos instead, > >>>>> alternatively (and preferably) grant rights to Camellia for any use. > >>>> > >>>> Now, we are preparing Camellia IPR for Kerberos. This IPR style is > >>>> similar to the letter of IPsec. > >>>> > >>>> Best regards, > >>>> Satoru > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> /Simon > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Satoru Kanno > >>>> > >>>> Security Business Unit > >>>> Mobile and Security Solution Business Group > >>>> NTT Software Corporation > >>>> > >>>> e-mail: kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> ietf-krb-wg mailing list > >>>> ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > >>>> https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> ietf-krb-wg mailing list > >>> ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > >>> https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> www.padl.com | www.fghr.net > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> ietf-krb-wg mailing list > >> ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov > >> https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg > > > > -- > www.padl.com | www.fghr.net _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Wed Feb 24 10:34:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606EF3A8554 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Errors-To: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Jeff, Larry, Kanno-san & myself would like to ask for 10 mins (say) to briefly discuss the Camellia work for Kerberos. Thus, please add Camellia to the Kerberos WG agenda for IETF77. Thanks. /thomas/ ________________________________________ From: ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov [ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hutzelman [jhutz@cmu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:36 PM To: ietf-krb-wg@anl.gov Cc: jhutz@cmu.edu Subject: [Ietf-krb-wg] IETF77 call for agenda items Now would be a good time to let Larry and I know if you have something you want to put on the agenda for IETF77. -- Jeff _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg _______________________________________________ ietf-krb-wg mailing list ietf-krb-wg@lists.anl.gov https://lists.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ietf-krb-wg From ietf-krb-wg-bounces@lists.anl.gov Thu Feb 25 11:37:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-krb-wg-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC64428C1C3 for ; 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