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From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 5 15:52:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isis-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB683A677E; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:52:45 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD0F3A677E for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:52:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JAmRysu9F6A1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-mta.sunlabs.com (edge.sunlabs.com [204.153.12.50]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FD13A65A5 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sunlabs.com ([152.70.2.186]) by mail-mta.sfvic.sunlabs.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.02 (built Aug 25 2004)) with ESMTP id <0KD0004D9VN2TL00@mail-mta.sfvic.sunlabs.com> for isis-wg@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.150.34.17] ([192.18.101.5]) by mail.sunlabs.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.02 (built Aug 25 2004)) with ESMTPSA id <0KD000DVRVN0XQJ0@mail.sunlabs.com> for isis-wg@ietf.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:52:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:52:16 -0800 From: Radia Perlman To: isis-wg@ietf.org Message-id: <49629D30.1080803@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) Subject: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org It might be nice to allow subsecond holding times for adjacencies. There was an ancient draft http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-parker-short-isis-hold-times-01.txt that seems to have expired, unless it got turned into an RFC that I couldn't find. It seems noncontroversial. It's a new TLV for expressing holding times in milliseconds. If a neighbor N1 doesn't support this TLV, it just means that N2, who wants to send hellos every millisecond, will be sending lots more hellos than necessary to keep the adjacency from N1-N2 up, since N1 will be assuming a holding timer of 1 second. What ever happened with this? Thanks, Radia _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 5 16:12:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isis-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1D13A6891; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:12:06 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3453A6891 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:12:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0ycAaTmZa+lV for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from prattle.redback.com (prattle.redback.com [155.53.12.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216243A682A for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prattle.redback.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B216AC8C28D; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from prattle.redback.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (prattle [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04165-04; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rbsjx.ad.redback.com (rbsjxh1.redback.com [155.53.14.105]) by prattle.redback.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C98AC8C28C; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from RBSJX.ad.redback.com ([155.53.14.103]) by rbsjxh1.ad.redback.com ([155.53.14.105]) with mapi; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:11:51 -0800 From: Ramesh Yeevani-Srinivas To: Radia Perlman , "isis-wg@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:11:50 -0800 Thread-Topic: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? Thread-Index: AclvkLIv7sMcCtU7Sl+hpXSiiS519wAAJ3Gw Message-ID: References: <49629D30.1080803@sun.com> In-Reply-To: <49629D30.1080803@sun.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at redback.com Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Radia, Network admins are using BFD to address sub second detections across wide range of links. Also using common infrastructure like BFD will help reduce control traffic rather than using per protocol detection, so I am not sure how useful is this functionality in current networks. Thanks Ramesh -----Original Message----- From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Radia Perlman Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:52 PM To: isis-wg@ietf.org Subject: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? It might be nice to allow subsecond holding times for adjacencies. There was an ancient draft http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-parker-short-isis-hold-times-01.txt that seems to have expired, unless it got turned into an RFC that I couldn't find. It seems noncontroversial. It's a new TLV for expressing holding times in milliseconds. If a neighbor N1 doesn't support this TLV, it just means that N2, who wants to send hellos every millisecond, will be sending lots more hellos than necessary to keep the adjacency from N1-N2 up, since N1 will be assuming a holding timer of 1 second. What ever happened with this? Thanks, Radia _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 5 16:23:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isis-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E6C3A67D4; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:23:56 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042543A67D4 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:23:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.069 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.069 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.048, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_BOGUSMX=1.482] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZH3+uvJMcJIK for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from dog.tcb.net (dog.tcb.net [64.78.150.133]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642083A677E for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by dog.tcb.net (Postfix, from userid 0) id A7B012684EA; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:23:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (97-122-99-176.hlrn.qwest.net [97.122.99.176]) (authenticated-user danny) (TLSv1/SSLv3 AES128-SHA 128/128) by dog.tcb.net with SMTP; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:23:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from danny@tcb.net) X-Avenger: version=0.7.8; receiver=dog.tcb.net; client-ip=97.122.99.176; client-port=55665; syn-fingerprint=65535:55:1:64:M1316,N,W3,N,N,T,S; data-bytes=0 Message-Id: <3CF818F7-A248-4CC3-A73A-D05C4C9F92EC@tcb.net> From: Danny McPherson To: Perlman Radia , Ramesh Yeevani-Srinivas In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:23:41 -0700 References: <49629D30.1080803@sun.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Ramesh Yeevani-Srinivas wrote: > Radia, > Network admins are using BFD to address sub second detections across > wide range of links. Also using common infrastructure like BFD will > help reduce control traffic rather than using per protocol > detection, so I am not sure how useful is this functionality in > current networks. Yep, MARP, BFD and more general purpose solutions were put in place to address the problem and so we let it expire. If there's some specific application that's not being addressed, or that can't employ BFD protocols, and general consensus it's a good idea, would be happy to consider revamping, as it is rather trivial. -danny _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 5 16:26:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isis-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEFF3A6857; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:26:35 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57173A67D4 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:22:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pwcq0vM60GsR for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B203A677E for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so4519376qwe.31 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:22:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ioBXZasMT2ItQCBuJ720KtGvPQUSKfRXAknH25KaJcE=; b=gqbcYJroGNoTGo69Pq6fuIGojma8lAhr95fQz2zbKA+ua0vDiJcKR0jsqOQ4PjdeBf OUC2n/RcoFA6wiCuUsFd82gVqEN1I3osbflXGw09nBkHar7zCD2b5h5WLdRfacX9Nq6C mYNXkXORg636nZcSqYOx2fQKLpKM34i5hr2LQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references; b=ihi/plmGO884yh7UazB5sm5arvQcP0oTxZRyOEwP7gPCmS2HFNa3vKz7YvYz8ex0XA nS0RK9siEb//ui38QYiGsHvQhyLhSXMW1uoxeAm0xjr2QPybjcv5Ef/IFa8UiZLViR0B 5b/WhMrUltED8tSfFLWOnElZLfhGcclidoVVM= Received: by 10.214.243.6 with SMTP id q6mr17427798qah.295.1231201328687; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.215.101.13 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:22:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7c68ee9f0901051622v78800601gbd02374990310b9b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:22:08 -0500 From: "Jeff Parker" To: "Radia Perlman" In-Reply-To: <49629D30.1080803@sun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <49629D30.1080803@sun.com> Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: jparker@alumni.kenyon.edu List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org I am having trouble remembering what happened to this proposal. It seems too early to be overtaken by the BFD protocol proposals. I bet there was a discussion about melt downs in the past, and an unwillingness to pick it up. There doesn't appear to have been enough interest for a second draft. - jeff parker On 1/5/09, Radia Perlman wrote: > It might be nice to allow subsecond holding times for adjacencies. > > There was an ancient draft > > http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-parker-short-isis-hold-times-01.txt > > that seems to have expired, unless it got turned into an RFC that I > couldn't find. > > It seems noncontroversial. It's a new TLV for expressing holding times in > milliseconds. If a neighbor N1 doesn't support > this TLV, it just means that N2, who wants to send hellos every > millisecond, will be sending lots more hellos than > necessary to keep the adjacency from N1-N2 up, since N1 will be assuming a > holding timer of 1 second. > > What ever happened with this? > > Thanks, > > Radia > _______________________________________________ > Isis-wg mailing list > Isis-wg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > > _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 5 16:48:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isis-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B213A3A6891; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:48:38 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFF73A6876 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:48:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lCxMX9E891od for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185943A63D2 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:48:36 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,334,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="125133749" Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Jan 2009 00:48:23 +0000 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (sj-core-3.cisco.com [171.68.223.137]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n060mNnO018278; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:48:23 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n060mN7c019859; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:48:23 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-222.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.106]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:48:23 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:48:22 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3CF818F7-A248-4CC3-A73A-D05C4C9F92EC@tcb.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? Thread-Index: AclvlQqD7IV/jvB6TJyGVNiEZJe3AgAAeGFA References: <49629D30.1080803@sun.com> <3CF818F7-A248-4CC3-A73A-D05C4C9F92EC@tcb.net> From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" To: "Danny McPherson" , "Perlman Radia" , "Ramesh Yeevani-Srinivas" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2009 00:48:23.0089 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A183A10:01C96F98] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2274; t=1231202903; x=1232066903; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=ginsberg@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Les=20Ginsberg=20(ginsberg)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[Isis-wg]=20Subsecond=20holding=20time= 20for=20IS-IS? |Sender:=20; bh=1CorGWOYWeO7sf7adPcbdmpSFHwfG8taZZoQoKKGegY=; b=E3Aew4+zoMIagTA/2yLHrKGoh9AGmSAiJthLhd7O7/8UsvLHTeXyY2SW+i BPxOE11XVcSk0ye4x/PBSkh551IMJRw7QWhWoMkZ6aBCknJvpugx9otPGmCy Mcs6bndHUy; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=ginsberg@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org > -----Original Message----- > From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Danny McPherson > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:24 PM > To: Perlman Radia; Ramesh Yeevani-Srinivas > Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? > > > On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Ramesh Yeevani-Srinivas wrote: > > > Radia, > > Network admins are using BFD to address sub second detections across > > wide range of links. Also using common infrastructure like BFD will > > help reduce control traffic rather than using per protocol > > detection, so I am not sure how useful is this functionality in > > current networks. > > > Yep, MARP, BFD and more general purpose solutions > were put in place to address the problem and so we > let it expire. > > If there's some specific application that's not being > addressed, or that can't employ BFD protocols, and > general consensus it's a good idea, would be happy to > consider revamping, as it is rather trivial. I think we need to be careful here. As stated in the old draft in Section 8: "Short hold times cannot be used without careful thought and engineering." This is well said - and the draft does a good job of discussing the decidedly non-trivial implementation issues. All of this is relevant to BFD - and the BFD protocol and its implementations (at least those that can claim to be reliable and scalable) have taken a good amount of care in addressing those issues. It is also relevant to note that the earlier statement by Radia to the effect that it really doesn't matter if your neighbor doesn't support this option since you will simply be sending hellos faster than necessary glosses over the impact that the increased incoming IIHs will have on the neighbor's performance. This is why BFD made sure that timers were negotiated and can always be limited by the receiver. If there is a good reason to revive this draft (and I haven't heard it yet) - we should recognize that doing so is decidedly NOT trivial. Les > > -danny > _______________________________________________ > Isis-wg mailing list > Isis-wg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 5 16:55:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isis-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A47F3A65A5; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:55:04 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31903A65A5 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:55:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.069 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.069 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.048, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_BOGUSMX=1.482] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FRdRFtLklv+A for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dog.tcb.net (dog.tcb.net [64.78.150.133]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095AD3A63D2 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by dog.tcb.net (Postfix, from userid 0) id 7195E2684EA; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:54:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (97-122-99-176.hlrn.qwest.net [97.122.99.176]) (authenticated-user danny) (TLSv1/SSLv3 AES128-SHA 128/128) by dog.tcb.net with SMTP; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:54:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from danny@tcb.net) X-Avenger: version=0.7.8; receiver=dog.tcb.net; client-ip=97.122.99.176; client-port=56685; syn-fingerprint=65535:55:1:64:M1316,N,W3,N,N,T,S; data-bytes=0 Message-Id: <2EA9214B-FE3D-408E-918E-6B7F180E0348@tcb.net> From: Danny McPherson To: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:54:49 -0700 References: <49629D30.1080803@sun.com> <3CF818F7-A248-4CC3-A73A-D05C4C9F92EC@tcb.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org > > > It is also relevant to note that the earlier statement by Radia to the > effect that it really doesn't matter if your neighbor doesn't support > this option since you will simply be sending hellos faster than > necessary glosses over the impact that the increased incoming IIHs > will > have on the neighbor's performance. This is why BFD made sure that > timers were negotiated and can always be limited by the receiver. > > If there is a good reason to revive this draft (and I haven't heard it > yet) - we should recognize that doing so is decidedly NOT trivial. Fair enough. I'm starting to better recollect the discussions we had on this topic in 2001-02.. -danny _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From ndahlay@4dcsi.com Mon Jan 5 21:29:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019FE3A6972 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:29:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -33.222 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-33.222 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DDSNTCkuMgaI for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:29:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp-124-120-221-165.revip2.asianet.co.th (ppp-124-120-231-132.revip2.asianet.co.th [124.120.231.132]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3518A3A67F0 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:29:01 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Your order 45083 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090106052902.3518A3A67F0@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:29:01 -0800 (PST)
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From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jan 6 04:06:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isis-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3069E3A6987; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:06:17 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4CB3A6949 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:06:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JM6s0obdcqQv for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A3B3A6A42 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 04:06:14 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,338,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="30150305" Received: from ams-dkim-2.cisco.com ([144.254.224.139]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Jan 2009 12:06:00 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n06C60A2027464; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:06:00 +0100 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.71.48]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n06C60GE020107; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:06:00 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id n06C5xt13900; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:06:00 GMT Message-ID: <49634927.2010202@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:05:59 +0000 From: mike shand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Danny McPherson References: <49629D30.1080803@sun.com> <3CF818F7-A248-4CC3-A73A-D05C4C9F92EC@tcb.net> <2EA9214B-FE3D-408E-918E-6B7F180E0348@tcb.net> In-Reply-To: <2EA9214B-FE3D-408E-918E-6B7F180E0348@tcb.net> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2188; t=1231243560; x=1232107560; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=mshand@cisco.com; z=From:=20mike=20shand=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Isis-wg]=20Subsecond=20holding=20time= 20for=20IS-IS? |Sender:=20; bh=k/Z7hIqoNUnATr/0sQcn5/o+JQ4am8fjOudWklWm3r4=; b=THBUXbEGihhBciv0CL/ayN4F5r/hVLiyPV2VM+Kzn1E0gflonnrheA6sbf kN2wfZB8DgiGx60tYq9lut0yDekkbavDMDv77KJtbTs9DZgGdn6LPjls4JuK AvyoQxtuNR; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-2; header.From=mshand@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim2001 verified; ); Cc: "Les Ginsberg \(ginsberg\)" , isis-wg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Yes, I would be very reluctant to resurrect this. BFD is a much better solution. The other issue with fast IS-IS hellos that has only been hinted at thus far is the fact that IS-IS hellos actually perform two functions. 1. Adjacency formation and information passing 2. adjacency maintenance The consequence of (1) is that the hellos contain a lot of baggage which is really only needed at adjacency formation, or at most infrequently. Sending this information at millisecond intervals is both inefficient, and more importantly imposes a load on the receiver which has to parse and verify a considerable amount of information. This can become particularly onerous when considering systems with large numbers of interfaces, perhaps in the 100s. It was for these reasons that BFD was invented to provide a very simple "fast hello" for the sole purpose of adjacency maintenance, leaving the normal IS-IS hello to handle formation etc. at a MUCH less frequent interval. The other advantage of BFD which has already been mentioned is its ability to perform adjacency maintenance for multiple protocols with a single message, thus avoiding the compounding of the problem which would occur if multiple protocols adopted the millisecond hello approach. Mike Danny McPherson wrote: >> >> >> It is also relevant to note that the earlier statement by Radia to the >> effect that it really doesn't matter if your neighbor doesn't support >> this option since you will simply be sending hellos faster than >> necessary glosses over the impact that the increased incoming IIHs will >> have on the neighbor's performance. This is why BFD made sure that >> timers were negotiated and can always be limited by the receiver. >> >> If there is a good reason to revive this draft (and I haven't heard it >> yet) - we should recognize that doing so is decidedly NOT trivial. > > Fair enough. I'm starting to better recollect the > discussions we had on this topic in 2001-02.. > > -danny > _______________________________________________ > Isis-wg mailing list > Isis-wg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg > _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From jhowland@a4e.co.uk Tue Jan 6 08:02:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF433A687D for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:02:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -46.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-46.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GtL9brfyot2J for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from almirall.es (unknown [213.202.39.6]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CF263A67B2 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:02:06 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Your order 63592 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090106160208.0CF263A67B2@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:02:06 -0800 (PST)
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From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Tue Jan 6 10:53:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isis-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237983A68AA; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:53:26 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7473A6892 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:53:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.53 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HB951Umjf85J for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B963A63D2 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0HLQ1b07p0cZkys59JtBKr; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:53:11 +0000 Received: from TONYLTM9XP ([155.53.41.237]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0Jsw1b008570qEr3WJsysM; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:53:09 +0000 From: "Tony Li" To: "'mike shand'" , "'Danny McPherson'" References: <49629D30.1080803@sun.com> <3CF818F7-A248-4CC3-A73A-D05C4C9F92EC@tcb.net> <2EA9214B-FE3D-408E-918E-6B7F180E0348@tcb.net> <49634927.2010202@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:52:03 -0800 Message-ID: <7B2BF9BA02F74269A31F1C24E0E37C1F@ad.redback.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <49634927.2010202@cisco.com> Thread-Index: Aclv9z5S0FOLNtcEROCh+GXroKjTQwAOJizg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: "'Les Ginsberg \(ginsberg\)'" , isis-wg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: tony.li@tony.li List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org +1 |-----Original Message----- |From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org |[mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of mike shand |Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:06 AM |To: Danny McPherson |Cc: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); isis-wg@ietf.org |Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Subsecond holding time for IS-IS? | |Yes, I would be very reluctant to resurrect this. BFD is a much better |solution. | |The other issue with fast IS-IS hellos that has only been |hinted at thus |far is the fact that IS-IS hellos actually perform two functions. | |1. Adjacency formation and information passing |2. adjacency maintenance | |The consequence of (1) is that the hellos contain a lot of |baggage which |is really only needed at adjacency formation, or at most infrequently. |Sending this information at millisecond intervals is both inefficient, |and more importantly imposes a load on the receiver which has to parse |and verify a considerable amount of information. This can become |particularly onerous when considering systems with large numbers of |interfaces, perhaps in the 100s. | |It was for these reasons that BFD was invented to provide a |very simple |"fast hello" for the sole purpose of adjacency maintenance, |leaving the |normal IS-IS hello to handle formation etc. at a MUCH less frequent |interval. | |The other advantage of BFD which has already been mentioned is its |ability to perform adjacency maintenance for multiple protocols with a |single message, thus avoiding the compounding of the problem |which would |occur if multiple protocols adopted the millisecond hello approach. | | Mike | | |Danny McPherson wrote: |>> |>> |>> It is also relevant to note that the earlier statement by |Radia to the |>> effect that it really doesn't matter if your neighbor |doesn't support |>> this option since you will simply be sending hellos faster than |>> necessary glosses over the impact that the increased |incoming IIHs will |>> have on the neighbor's performance. This is why BFD made sure that |>> timers were negotiated and can always be limited by the receiver. |>> |>> If there is a good reason to revive this draft (and I |haven't heard it |>> yet) - we should recognize that doing so is decidedly NOT trivial. |> |> Fair enough. I'm starting to better recollect the |> discussions we had on this topic in 2001-02.. |> |> -danny |> _______________________________________________ |> Isis-wg mailing list |> Isis-wg@ietf.org |> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg |> | |_______________________________________________ |Isis-wg mailing list |Isis-wg@ietf.org |https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg | _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From jgracet@acgov.org Tue Jan 6 12:02:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A9C3A6817 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:02:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -19.759 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-19.759 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cXAEdbnYFJ3L for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsdf-4db50323.pool.einsundeins.de (dsdf-4db52a8b.pool.einsundeins.de [77.181.42.139]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BE4CD3A6AF5 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:02:26 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Your order 94076 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090106200226.BE4CD3A6AF5@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:02:26 -0800 (PST)
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From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jan 7 15:45:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isis-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316863A6AA4; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:45:03 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: isis-wg@ietf.org Delivered-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 653673A6AA4; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:45:00 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090107234501.653673A6AA4@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:45:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: isis-wg@ietf.org Subject: [Isis-wg] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-isis-ipv6-te-06.txt X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IS-IS for IP Internets Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPv6 Traffic Engineering in IS-IS Author(s) : J. Harrison, J. Berger, M. Bartlett Filename : draft-ietf-isis-ipv6-te-06.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2009-1-6 This document specifies a method for exchanging IPv6 Traffic Engineering information using the IS-IS routing protocol. The described method uses three new TLVs, together with two new sub-TLVs of the Extended IS Reachability TLV. The information distributed allows a CSPF algorithm to calculate traffic engineered routes using IPv6 addresses. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-isis-ipv6-te-06.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-isis-ipv6-te-06.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2009-1-7153524.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg --NextPart-- From linell@accufacts.com Wed Jan 7 19:53:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906BE3A69AB for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:53:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -36.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-36.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_2=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M7qeAmN9jaRi for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from al-farid.com (unknown [92.113.94.194]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 738003A699C for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:53:34 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Re: Order status 48293 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090108035335.738003A699C@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:53:34 -0800 (PST)
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From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 16 08:22:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isis-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C883A6943; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:22:02 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: isis-wg@ietf.org Delivered-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id 49B173A6846; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:22:02 -0800 (PST) X-idtracker: yes From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Message-Id: <20090116162202.49B173A6846@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:22:02 -0800 (PST) Cc: isis chair , Internet Architecture Board , isis mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [Isis-wg] Protocol Action: 'Simplified Extension of LSP Space for IS-IS' to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Simplified Extension of LSP Space for IS-IS ' as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the IS-IS for IP Internets Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Ross Callon and David Ward. A URL of this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-isis-wg-extlsp-05.txt Technical Summary This draft describes a simplified method for extending the LSP space beyond the 256 Link State PDU (LSP) limit defined in [IS-IS]. This method is intended as a preferred replacement for the method defined in [RFC 3786]. This draft obsoletes RFC3786. Working Group Summary Strong WG consensus is reported. There were no objections during WG and IETF last calls. While this document obsoletes a previously published alternate approach, there is no known implementation of the previous approach. Document Quality There are no current existing implementations, but there are plans to implement the approach in this draft. There are no known implementations of RFC 3786 (that this draft obsoletes), and no known plans to implement RFC3786. Personnel Chris Hopps is the Document Shepherd for this document. Ross Callon is the Responsible Area Director. RFC Editor Note In three places in the text the document references [M-IS-IS], which references RFC5210. It would be more consistent with other references to change all occurrences of "[M-IS-IS]" to be "[RFC5210]". Also, RFC5120 should be moved from the informative references section to the normative references section. Section 7 (Security Considerations). Please append the following sentence to the end of the one existing paragraph in this section: For general security considerations for IS-IS see [RFC5304]. Section 9.2, Please add an informative reference to RFC 5304. Section 1, first sentence, Please replace "LSP" with "Link State PDU (LSP)". _______________________________________________ Isis-wg mailing list Isis-wg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From melnok@agt.net Fri Jan 16 09:03:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876123A68BF for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:03:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -17.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.248 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-4.260, BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.552, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fCNuJS8vpkf1 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:03:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from americanblanching.com (unknown [201.53.174.127]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 303803A63D3 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:03:14 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Re: Pfizer Company From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090116170322.303803A63D3@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:03:14 -0800 (PST)
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Hello I have a problem with ISIS area/do= main authentication.
Suppose we have two Routers(maybe cisco)
We configure area authentication password in both routers
 
R1>area authentication sprint
R2>area authentication sprint
 
Now there is no problem both routres remain adjacent and both routers = accept others LSP and ISIS routes are present in both routers.
 
Now we change area authentication password in one of the routers.
 
R1>area authentication tata
 
Now in R1 Immediatly Other routers(R2's) LSP will be deleted from its = database and ISIS Routes that it learnt from R2 will be deleted.
 
But in router R2, LSP of R1 is not becoming lifetime zero and R2 is no= t deleting ISIS routes which it learnt from R1 even though area password s = are diffrent now .
 
,The database gets cleared and ISIS routes are deleted only after we g= ive clear isis * command.in R2 Router.
 
Is it a problem ... 

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From isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Wed Jan 28 22:42:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: isis-archive@megatron.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-isis-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390BA3A67F7; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:42:35 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: isis-wg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249463A67F7 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:42:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.225 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.225 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.227, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_75=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cFSf2ag5xK6P for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:42:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F633A67B1 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9DW71b00L0b6N64A1JiEHP; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:42:14 +0000 Received: from TONYLTM9XP ([155.53.1.254]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9Ji21b0025Up7oj8PJi4PR; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:42:12 +0000 From: "Tony Li" To: , References: <80109.81878.qm@web8406.mail.in.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:42:03 -0800 Message-ID: <838C02CCF533412EA688DDF3C5A30535@ad.redback.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmBsq1k7yTot4DVTOeDkp9P07TdcAAKZe7g In-Reply-To: <80109.81878.qm@web8406.mail.in.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] ISIS Authentication Problem X-BeenThere: isis-wg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: tony.li@tony.li List-Id: IETF IS-IS working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0602618756==" Sender: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0602618756== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006B_01C98199.A9FBA330" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C98199.A9FBA330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Pranjal, Well, it's not a protocol issue. ;-) Whether or not you consider it a bug is more of an operational question. >From the perspective of R2, nothing has gone wrong. R2 is going to start hearing new LSPs from R1, but those LSPs are going to contain the wrong authentication information. R2 then correctly _ignores_ the new, 'bad' data. Note that it would be a bug if R2 was to perform any substantive action on receipt of an incorrectly authenticated LSP. Doing so would create a huge DoS vector. If your concern is password transitioning, an implementation is free to accept multiple passwords on receipt. Regards, Tony _____ From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pranjal Chakravarty Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:41 PM To: isis-wg@ietf.org Subject: [Isis-wg] ISIS Authentication Problem Hello I have a problem with ISIS area/domain authentication. Suppose we have two Routers(maybe cisco) We configure area authentication password in both routers R1>area authentication sprint R2>area authentication sprint Now there is no problem both routres remain adjacent and both routers accept others LSP and ISIS routes are present in both routers. Now we change area authentication password in one of the routers. R1>area authentication tata Now in R1 Immediatly Other routers(R2's) LSP will be deleted from its database and ISIS Routes that it learnt from R2 will be deleted. But in router R2, LSP of R1 is not becoming lifetime zero and R2 is not deleting ISIS routes which it learnt from R1 even though area password s are diffrent now . ,The database gets cleared and ISIS routes are deleted only after we give clear isis * command.in R2 Router. Is it a problem ... _____ Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C98199.A9FBA330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi Pranjal,
 
Well, it's not a protocol issue.  ;-)  Whether = or not=20 you consider it a bug is more of an operational = question.
 
From the perspective of R2, nothing has gone = wrong.  R2 is=20 going to start hearing new LSPs from R1, but those LSPs are going to = contain the=20 wrong authentication information.  R2 then correctly _ignores_ the = new,=20 'bad' data. 
 
Note that it would be a bug if R2 was to perform any = substantive=20 action on receipt of an incorrectly authenticated LSP.  Doing so = would=20 create a huge DoS vector.
 
If your concern is password transitioning, an = implementation=20 is free to accept multiple passwords on receipt.
 
Regards,
Tony
 


From: isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org=20 [mailto:isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pranjal=20 Chakravarty
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:41 = PM
To:=20 isis-wg@ietf.org
Subject: [Isis-wg] ISIS Authentication=20 Problem

Hello I have a problem with ISIS area/domain = authentication.
Suppose we have two Routers(maybe cisco)
We configure area authentication password in both = routers
 
R1>area authentication sprint
R2>area authentication sprint
 
Now there is no problem both routres remain adjacent and = both=20 routers accept others LSP and ISIS routes are present in both=20 routers.
 
Now we change area authentication password in one of the=20 routers.
 
R1>area authentication tata
 
Now in R1 Immediatly Other routers(R2's) LSP will be = deleted from=20 its database and ISIS Routes that it learnt from R2 will be=20 deleted.
 
But in router R2, LSP of R1 is not becoming lifetime zero = and R2 is=20 not deleting ISIS routes which it learnt from R1 even though = area=20 password s are diffrent now .
 
,The database gets cleared and ISIS routes are deleted only = after=20 we give clear isis * command.in R2 Router.
 
Is it a problem = ... 


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