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M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701 --_000_A4DE324D317E4F40A82CF077C7A9E1E3509D39USA7109MB004naxer_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

I have posted the stable version of “IPP Scan = Service updated per prototype experience and subsequent discussions.

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.p= df

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509= .pdf

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.= docx

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-2014050= 9.docx

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-201405= 09-rev.pdf

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-2014= 0509-rev.pdf

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140= 509-rev.docx

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-201= 40509-rev.docx

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com=
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701

--_000_A4DE324D317E4F40A82CF077C7A9E1E3509D39USA7109MB004naxer_-- --===============1522753305== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1522753305==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri May 9 07:37:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3421A00BE for ; Fri, 9 May 2014 07:37:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QAGDij819AVo for ; Fri, 9 May 2014 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0471A0008 for ; Fri, 9 May 2014 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C7A8561; Fri, 9 May 2014 14:36:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: IPP@pwg.org Delivered-To: IPP@pwg.org Received: from USA7109MR004.ACS-INC.COM (usa7109mr004.acs-inc.com [63.101.151.13]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FF1E854C for ; Fri, 9 May 2014 14:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from usa7109ht002.na.xerox.net ([13.41.230.32]) by USA7109MR004.ACS-INC.COM with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 09 May 2014 09:35:29 -0500 Received: from USA7109MB004.na.xerox.net ([169.254.4.160]) by USA7109HT002.na.xerox.net ([13.41.230.32]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Fri, 9 May 2014 09:35:29 -0500 From: "Zehler, Peter" To: "IPP@pwg.org" Thread-Topic: WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification Thread-Index: Ac9rk+wjEb418R5BSMCrv1Uqd0No4A== Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 14:35:28 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [13.41.230.82] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1232810278==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1232810278== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A4DE324D317E4F40A82CF077C7A9E1E3509D4DUSA7109MB004naxer_" --_000_A4DE324D317E4F40A82CF077C7A9E1E3509D4DUSA7109MB004naxer_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, This message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP Scan Serv= ice specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent discussio= ns. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine for = this) and it will be collected and processed as quickly as possible. Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the August= 2014 F2F. Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701 --_000_A4DE324D317E4F40A82CF077C7A9E1E3509D4DUSA7109MB004naxer_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

This message initiates the IPP Working Group last ca= ll of the IPP Scan Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent discus= sions.

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.p= df

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509= .pdf

Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (re= ply-all works fine for this) and it will be collected and processed as quic= kly as possible.

Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the August 2014 F2F.

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com=
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701

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Fri, 09 May 2014 08:26:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 08:26:16 -0700 Message-id: References: To: "Zehler, Peter" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON3OUHfm55xgg5dnjC2O7XvJ4sDoMW/x dKYAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujJuXggtOy1fsbJ7C1sDYLNXFyMkhIWAi8XTPZSYIW0ziwr31 bF2MXBxCAjOZJK6tfckGkuAVEJT4MfkeSxcjBwezgJ7E/YtaEDWTmSRWP7rMDDNo35ylrBCJ fiaJ0y/2MMI5a483M4N0Cwv4Sjw+pADSwCagJvF7Uh8riM0p4C+x+vApMJtFQFXi8Z9eRhCb WUBeYsPMDiYIW1viybsLrBAH2Uis6egHs4UE/CQ6/78Es0UEdCQ2PtwPdZCsxKMPTSwgN0gI vGaVeLH/B/sERpFZSB6ahfDQLCQrFjAyr2IUyk3MzNHNzDPSSywoyEnVS87P3cQICW7BHYzH V1kdYhTgYFTi4ZV4nRMsxJpYVlyZe4hRmoNFSZx34czsYCGB9MSS1OzU1ILUovii0pzU4kOM TBycUg2MG97HvRERm1V9dV/cR9u0ZJY/Gcwc347tnnCX94m/2yfdA3zuxx34W1wfW07eX3+l jOvAhR0rXx8+HX1o1brHl33XfNtYWjRvelUm795f27cYurhu/O6jfWPL3Gz5F+bxaRVr9T7F 5DC+vMalbLJgmmKcxr5jfBqWX/RnN75aP3HzvB1mm4TLhJRYijMSDbWYi4oTAfKZeflPAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrELMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAsrjvrc06wwY937BbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxs1LwQWn5St2Nk9ha2Bslupi5OSQEDCR2DdnKSuELSZx4d56 ti5GLg4hgX4micsb/jHCOWuPNzN3MXJwCAv4Sjw+pADSwCugJ3Hm7C92kDAzkH3/ohZImE1A TeL3pD6wmZwC/hKrD58Cs1kEVCUe/+llBLGZBeQlNszsYIKwtSWevLvACjHSRmJNRz+YLSTg J9H5/yWYLSKgI7Hx4X5miDtlJR59aGKZwCgwC8kVsxCumIVk6gJG5lWMAkWpOYmVFnqJBQU5 qXrJ+bmbGMEhV5i2g7FpudUhRgEORiUeXonXOcFCrIllxZW5hxglOJiVRHgrgAErxJuSWFmV WpQfX1Sak1p8iFGag0VJnFf9SlawkEB6YklqdmpqQWoRTJaJg1OqgXHWj8CTpye//TrhXBKL 6IKXz0JmVtSe7uAXFiwyrtwRm/Zi872317oycl2tWq6vP9C/ham2nVvI/W9njXGL55oTsZX7 HMxmeT22/K41JcHvws74r6s6bFg0tYXS5Ne+LJL1vyrv9C5yavGDEMakjc92NarOKnbYdFei VCvW6MEinRSTu95PVymxFGckGmoxFxUnAgDR/It+NQIAAA== Cc: "IPP@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Stable version of IPP Scan Service specification available X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Pete, Thanks for posting this. I did a quick page turning and came up with the fo= llowing comments: - Global: Use the "normal" style for tables and their footnotes - Global: Check for empty rows in tables and extra blank lines in the text. - Table 7: The 8-bit RGB color keyword should probably be rgb_8 instead of = color_8, to be consistent with the rest of them. - Section 8.2.1.1, line 698 in the rev version: attribute names should be i= n double quotes, fix "job-password-encryption" (missing hyphen) - Section 8.4.2.5: Same as 8.2.1.1 - Section 8.4.2.6: "destination-attributes" should be hyphenated and in dou= ble quotes, plus same fixes as 8.2.1.1. - Section 10: I'd drop the "for more information see [BONJOUR]" and instead= include the reference at the end of the first sentence with the new RFCs (= 6762 and 6763 IIRC - they are listed on the IPP WG web page). - Table 9: Default value for rs should be "ipp/scan". "UUID" is all caps an= d MUST match the "printer-uuid" for the Print service, if any (remember, th= is is shared with the Print registration) - Section 10: You should say something about the service name and TXT recor= d being shared on a multifunction device. - Section 10.3.1.1: You should say something about the TXT record being sha= red with the Print service on a multifunction device. - Section 10.3.1.2: You don't have to include txtvers (it defaults to 1), b= ut if you do it should be the first key. - Section 10.3.1.3: The ending dot indicates a FQDN. The default port is 80= for http and 443 for https. I don't know if we should say anything about U= I here. - Section 10.3.1.4: IPP-SE? No mention of ipp/scan default value, sp and rp= are both shown as keys in the examples. - Section 10.3.1.7: ALL CAPS UUID, it is an RFC 4122 conforming UUID withou= t the leading urn:uuid:, must match the "printer-uuid" value from the Print= service, etc. - Section 10.3.1.x: Examples should be for non-default values. - Section 11: "002E" at end of sentence. - Section 11.1: Item 2 drop the a-d sub-items - Section 11.2: Item 2 drop the a-b sub-items - Section 12: Fix list - Section 13: "In addition to the security considerations defined below, th= e IPP extensions ..." - Section 13.x: I don't think we have defined terms for all of the terms in= these sections. - Section 14.1: Drop "IPP" from in front of Printer Description, drop input= -color-mode-default/-supported - Section 14.2: Drop "bi-level" (already registered), "color_8" should be "= rgb_8". - Section 14.3: The enum is for operations-supported - Section 15.1: Add RFC 6762, 6763, fix JFIF reference (pointing to RFC 606= 8) - Section 15.2: Update IPPS reference On May 9, 2014, at 7:28 AM, Zehler, Peter wrote: > All, > I have posted the stable version of =93IPP Scan Service updated per proto= type experience and subsequent discussions. = > = > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf = > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf = > = > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.docx = > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.docx = > = > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509-rev.pdf = > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509-rev.pdf > = > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509-rev.docx = > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509-rev.docx = > = > = > = > Peter Zehler > = > Xerox Research Center Webster > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com > Voice: (585) 265-8755 > FAX: (585) 265-7441 > US Mail: Peter Zehler > Xerox Corp. > 800 Phillips Rd. > M/S 128-25E > Webster NY, 14580-9701 > = > = > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Fri May 9 08:46:36 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924411A02E5 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org All, I have posted the stable draft of the IPP FaxOut Service errata to: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20140509.docx http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20140509.pdf The PDF is the rev version. I will be posting a PWG Call for Objections on this errata shortly. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Fri May 9 08:57:11 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93AF1A02DF for ; Fri, 9 May 2014 08:57:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.442 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.442 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oUwBuB005IN6 for ; Fri, 9 May 2014 08:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DD11A02C7 for ; Fri, 9 May 2014 08:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4988571; Fri, 9 May 2014 15:57:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Delivered-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Received: from mail-in7.apple.com (mail-out7.apple.com [17.151.62.29]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E638856F for ; Fri, 9 May 2014 15:57:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=apple.com; s=mailout2048s; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@apple.com; t=1399651022; x=2263564622; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-id:To:Cc:MIME-version:Content-type: Content-transfer-encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ByDLnub0inaG2dk7cGZRwygxmM4jEzcPvuA/LgPr5FQ=; b=CRz6t4FrcaLaw6TbVl0ISQWAzmbBIaI1qtiyTJxEDmL61VPviK3H1nfBPw2njVat 0X4W27NjODFxM+ah0Lhf9HqQ8gCF2NE1MSM4nxmEdbEm+RTnmS1tRR/Ynv6N/vgO wI4vwBy6cgVqJn8EkQtEXUoOueFEWhWCDncfiO996eDij2/MQneINPl7DqGTbAX+ HmwofhW9RaH4Ngj+jQM18l6PY0fOFlXV07z4tq2QERLrKqCk4kXlKIGrdQsZgMJL 2kcugHF8I8rHorQpJE2WHavPMINopFJUx4jiYBBcsOae0eP8oOgISycIZKi5US1E HG2m3YdOlWhw18DsVDHUgw==; Received: from mail-out.apple.com (mail-out.apple.com [17.151.62.50]) (using TLS with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail-in7.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id A2.C8.22001.ECAFC635; Fri, 9 May 2014 08:57:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay6.apple.com ([17.128.113.90]) by local.mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.30.0 64bit (built Oct 22 2013)) with ESMTP id <0N5B00MMVDM06U30@local.mail-out.apple.com> for pwg-announce@pwg.org; Fri, 09 May 2014 08:57:02 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11973e16-f79d46d0000055f1-d4-536cfaceb921 Received: from aniseed.apple.com (aniseed.apple.com [17.128.115.23]) (using TLS with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay6.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id E9.E6.05073.DBCEC635; Fri, 9 May 2014 07:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.114.159.199] (unknown [17.114.159.199]) by aniseed.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.30.0 64bit (built Oct 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N5B00IRRDN21N20@aniseed.apple.com> for pwg-announce@pwg.org; Fri, 09 May 2014 08:57:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 08:57:01 -0700 To: "PWG Announcements Inc." 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See instructions below. This email initiates a Call for Objections by the PWG membership on a republished IPP FaxOut Service specification as an errata to the Standard, which is located at: http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20140509.pdf OBJECTION PERIOD: The period for stating an objection starts today, May 9, 2014 and ends at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday, June 6, 2014. Only respond if you have an objection to the changes made in the republished IPP FaxOut Service specification. PWG 5100.15-2013: IPP FaxOut Service was formally approved by the PWG as a candidate standard in November 2013. HOW TO STATE AN OBJECTION: Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format: IPP FaxOut Objection---Object Example: IPP FaxOut Objection-Acme-McGee-Object All objections MUST include the technical reason for the objection, otherwise the Objection will not be considered per PWG Process/3.0. WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE: Please send your objection to *all* of the following email addresses: msweet AT apple DOT com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair/IPP FaxOut Editor/IPP WG Secretary) blueroofmusic AT gmail DOT com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair) ptykodi AT tykodi DOT com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair) ipp AT pwg DOT org (IPP WG mailing list) You are also free to reply to this note on PWG-Announce since any objections are not confidential. NOTES: - This Call for Objections is being conducted under the rules of the PWG Process/3.0 and the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality agreement. The PWG Membership Agreement calls out both of these documents and the links are provided below. - To be eligible to object the member MUST have submitted a signed copy of the PWG Membership Agreement and paid their dues. 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Great salad bar, to begin with, then impeccable service and all the cuts you know with some you probably don't if you're not used to Churrascos.
Wine list is endless and Caipirinha (at the beginning or at the end, your call) is a must
Cheer up to Brazil, in Atlanta!

Visited April 2013

Had to make last minute reservation for a group of 5 here and had no problems getting in on the same night. This place is great! The food was excellent (try the garlic steak!) the service was almost too good, and the drinks were right on. Don't forget to turn your card over to red or they will keep trying to bring you something new. You won't be disappointed with Fogo de Chao.

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With serializeArray(), i'd have to do something like obj[indexOfElement].value Yisroel Jul 26 '09 at 14:05 1 @Taylor I don't see any answer on there that addresses the specific question better than Tobias' answer below. James McCormack Dec 22 '10 at 12:41 2 @James - The accepted answer using D. Crockford's JSON-js library. Here's an example: github.com/tleese22/google-app-engine-jappstart/blob/master/src/ Taylor Leese Dec 22 '10 at 20:11 2 @Taylor Yes, I'd say the correct answer uses Crockford's lib and Tobias' function like so: JSON.stringify(('myForm').serializeObject()) James McCormack Dec 23 '10 at 12:30 3 @Jonz - There are other reasons besides submission/transmission for using a form element. If you're doing any heavy lifting with the form values within JavaScript (e.g. single page app), it's very handy to have them in an object format for accessing & manipulating. Also, HTTP Post and Get query strings aren't the only formats for moving data around. Patrick M Jul 9 '12 at 14:11 show 5 more comments 36 Answers activeoldestvotes 1 2 next up vote 690 down vote accepted serializeArray already does exactly that, you just need to massage the data into your required format: fn.serializeObject = function(){ var o = {}; var a = this.serializeArray(); each(a, function() { if (o[this.name] == undefined) { if (o[this.name].push) { o[this.name] = [o[this.name]]; } o[this.name].push(this.value || ''); } else { o[this.name] = this.value || ''; } });return o;Example of this in action: Fiddle Ok, I know this already has a highly upvoted answer, but another similar question was asked recently, and I was directed to this question as well. I'd like to offer my solution as well, because it offers an advantage over the accepted solution: You can include disabled form elements (which is sometimes important, depending on how your UI functions)Here is my answer from the other SO question:Initially, we were using jQuery's serializeArray() method, but that does not include form elements that are disabled. We will often disable form elements that are "sync'd" to other sources on the page, but we still need to include the data in our serialized object. So serializeArray() is out. We used the :input selector to get all input elements (both enabled and disabled) in a given container, and then $.map() to create our object. as tvanfosson says, why iterate over the collection twice? Yisroel Jul 27 '09 at 16:15 28 Do you mean "why use serializeArray to get the data in the first place?" Because serializeArray is already written, is unit tested in multiple browsers, and could theoretically be improved in later versions of jQuery. The less code you write that has to access inconsistent things like DOM elements directly, the more stable your code will be. Tobias Cohen Jul 28 '09 at 3:05Be warned, serializeArray() will not include disabled elements. I often disable input elements that are sync'd to other elements on the page, but I still want them included in my serialized object. You're better off using something like .map( ("#container :input"), function(n, i) { /* n.name and (n).val() */ } ); if you need to include disabled elements. Samuel Meacham Jul 18 '10 at 23:54 @TobiasCohen It doesn't handle foo[bar]-type inputs as expected, not to mention most of the other input name varieties. After being very frustrated with shallow solutions to this problem, I ended up writing my own jQuery plugin -- details in the answer I provided to this question. maek Dec 7 '11 at 20:13 2 @macek I know this is a few months old, but since when did do arrays use non-numeric indexes? No one should name an input foo[bar] and hope to treat it as an array. Are you confusing arrays and hashes? Yes, [] is commonly understood to be an accessor but not just for arrays. Also saying it's valid HTML but not in the HTML spec is a contradiction. Yes, the browser may not choke on it, but not many webservers are going to know how to deserialize that like they would an array. Why? Because its not in the HTML spec. Therefore, it is indeed invalid. Kroehre Sep 8 '12 at 8:29 show 24 more comments up vote 164 down vote Convert forms to JSON LIKE A BOSS UPDATE: The following code is now deprecated. You can find the current version on GitHub. The following code can take work with all sorts of input names; and handle them just as you'd expect. 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Your glasses and contact are not really fixing the problem. They are making your eyes worse. What if I told you that you can have perfect 20/20 vision without the costly dangers of surgery or glasses? You would be shocked and so was I at first... Study and findings. -- http://www.icyvow.com/about/cdc-eye/glasses/20-20.html DO NOT spend thousands on laser eye surgery or glasses anymore. You can have perfect 20/20 vision for the rest of your life. Article posted by Cramer Turner Associates: 05-11-2014 23:45:18 If you need to alter your permissions please do so at http://www.icyvow.com/view/63457/index.html - 9306 Bova Ct -- Lousville KT ~ 40291 Other interesting Information Eyes may be the windows to the soul, but how much do you really know about them? We're aware that they're pretty irreplaceable (there's no such thing as an entire eyeball transplant, after all), but what are they made out of? And what does the shape of an eyeball have to do with vision? We talked to Dr. Rebecca Taylor, M.D., an ophthalmologist in private practice in Nashville, Tenn., and a spokesperson for the American Academy of Ophthalmology, to find the answers to the eye questions that have always lurked in the back of your head (which also happens to be where your occipital lobe is). Meanwhile, a hawk can school us all. What a hawk can see at 20 feet, we would have to be at three feet to see. The term for having two different-colored irises is called heterochromia iridis. Heterochromia iridis is hereditary, meaning it runs in the family. However, if you grew up having the same colored eyes but then noticed later in life that one eye has changed color, that could actually be a sign of sickness and you should get your eyes checked out by a doctor. 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We talked to Dr. Rebecca Taylor, M.D., an ophthalmologist in private practice in Nashville, Tenn., and a spokesperson for the American Academy of Ophthalmology, to find the answers to the eye questions that have always lurked in the back of your head (which also happens to be where your occipital lobe is). Meanwhile, a hawk can school us all. What a hawk can see at 20 feet, we would have to be at three feet to see. The term for having two different-colored irises is called heterochromia iridis. Heterochromia iridis is hereditary, meaning it runs in the family. However, if you grew up having the same colored eyes but then noticed later in life that one eye has changed color, that could actually be a sign of sickness and you should get your eyes checked out by a doctor. 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This line is buggy. It should generate an exceptionthe place gets, there is hardly any wait time. The place is fairly large and they have seating inside and outside. The outside seating is a wonderful spot because of the Miami weather and the nice patio setup (even got some couches for you lazy inally coming out of your house)The best times to come here is during Happy Hour. (Mon-Fri 3-6 and Wed and Sun 10-close). We usually come on Wed nights to wind down after the day. They have half off select appetizers, pizzas, and drinks. The burger sliders go from 10 to 5 and they are incredible. It's 4 sliders with fries. The bread is warm and soft and the meat tastes great. The fries are those normal skinny fries that you can find at Steak N Shake. You can also get a side of barnaise sauce to go with your burger sliders, but I found
We usually will get appetizers for the table with our beers. They are all around 10 normally, but 5 during Happy hour. The buffalo wings are fantastic and they come about 12 wings to an order. They aren't too spicy but they do have a nice kick and are real crisp on the outside. They sauce isn't heavy or greasy at all. The onion rings come on a stack and they are incredible. Real battered onion rings that don't fall apart once you bite into them. The chips and salsa are great too.

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I am going to do something like this: LEAVE WEBSITE NOW or '>LEAVE WEBSITE NOW A link like that will scroll you to some actual content. Its not a blank Google search but is also not a very specific thing that could be seen as suspicious. I know that blocking the referrer is good but even with that solution you can hit the back button on your browser and your caught. For this problem I thought I could do something this: HTML LEAVE WEBSITE NOW JavaScript function goNewWin() { window.open("backbuttonnewpage.html",'TheNewpop','toolbar=1,location=1,directories=1,status=1,menubar=1,scrollbars=1,resizable=1'); self.close() } I am posting because there are lives at risk with this and I need something that is as close to a total solution as can be. How would you do this? UPDATE- 3-26-14: I ran some of the educational ideas posted here by the resource center I am working with and here was their answer. "It takes extreme courage for our users to even come on our website. When they come they are looking for a fast easy resource to get out of a possibly life threatening situation. They would not have the time or the mental capacity in most cases to educate themselves on a safe way to browse our website. When presented with the idea of a "panic button", when done properly, has seemed to be a resource that is always asked for by most victims that we treat." After reading a lot of the ideas here it seems like a total solution would be a large button that floats in a constant position on left hand side. When the page loads it loads another site in the background (maybe an ajax call) so that clicking the button just removes the overlaying frame. This will mean no load time when clicked. To avoid a back button press of the browser it seems like telling the browser not to cache is necessary as well as possibly using replaceState on every page change to disable a back button that reveals this site. This is still very much a technical question. The debate helps very much but I still need a working technical solution. Anyone think they are able to get all these ideas together into something functional? Ill be working on it right away myself and will post anything I come up with. Thanks all. I put an example on my AWS instance at 54.186.79.95 Go to that page, click the button, visit another page, then hit back, you're now on 54.186.79.95/decoywebsite and there's no record of you being on 54.186.79.95/, if cache is disabled, your server will see the "../decoywebsite" request and send a decoy page. Unfortunately, you can't modify the entire domain so you would need the domain to be not suspicious. If you want to get rid of the page content, I believe the best way is to use document.body.innerHTML='';. You are still technically on the page but all the content is gone. Next step is to modify your browser history. window.history.replaceState (link to docs) is an HTML5 feature that can modify your history without doing a page reload or a request to your server. It's pretty fast but only works on modern browsers. When the user clicks the panic button, we will replace the current page in his history with a fake url. If the abusive user clicks back, your server (Php, python, whatever) will receive a request with your fake url. So you need to have another endpoint in your server (Let me know if you don't understand endpoints). Make a benign article, recipe, or weather report with a similar look and feel to your original website in order to avoid suspicion if the abuser got a quick glance at the website. Also make sure the browser's doesn't cache by using the tag. Additional Remarks Ideally your entire website (except your decoy article of course) should be an SPA (Single Page Application) so that it only ever produces one browser history record and you only have to modify that one. At the end of the day, I don't think you can't make a panic button that's 100% foolproof, there's gonna be ways around it. You just have to find one with an acceptable level of security and convenience. ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE: LOCALLY CHANGE THE INCRIMINATING INFO AND MODIFY BROWSER HISTORY I was also thinking if instead of loading google, if it's not best to actually transform your site locally with innocent info. This looks less suspicious than loading google (everyone does that) and you can do it all locally without reloading the page.When they click the panic button, you do some fast (and cross-browser compliant) DOM manipulation to change the incriminating info on your website and make it look innocent (maybe just change the text, it has to be fast). This way, it's all done locally which in the vast majo javascript htmlshare|improve this question3I would start by either clearing or obscuring the current page (using javascript) when the link is clicked (because it can take some time for a link to be followed...) Cameron Mar 26 at 0:057Interestingly, in the linked page, the "click here to leave quickly" link seems inaccessible on iPad, obscured by social media buttons...about the worst ux decision I've seen in recent history :/ David Thomas Mar 26 at 0:20Agree with David Thomas about preference w/ default to google -- using MSN would by itself be suspicious in my house. Stephen P Mar 26 at 0:22What is your actual question? Petah Mar 26 at 0:35Putting the button at the top seems like an awful placement. Think about fitts' law You have a thin strip that somebody has to hit, and if they overshoot they won't hit it. Ridiculous. Put it on the left, where the majority of users can take advantage of the effectively infinite size. (Right could be scrollbar on some displays, bottom is d efault taskbar, top is default tab bar. Anybody savvy enough to have changed these defaults probably knows ^w) Phoshi Mar 26 at 15:55 From BiancaGuzman@excelsiorfamilydental.postcry.com Mon May 12 11:26:12 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C721A0727 for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 11:26:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.645 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.645 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FH_FROM_GET_NAME=2.598, J_CHICKENPOX_81=0.6, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NIKDlKz7eLYx for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 11:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from excelsiorfamilydental.postcry.com (excelsiorfamilydental.postcry.com [46.30.146.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8341A0741 for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 11:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 11:26:02 -0700 Message-ID: <20140512140454.11906.91884.0909.3252.4245@bgt.postcry.com> Subject: (DocOz Video) Lose 5X more... From: Get Skinny Forever Tv Show: "Get Skinny once and For All" Special Spring Edition Soo.... In a perfect world our metabolism would be untouchable and we would never have to worry about unwanted -gain. But in reality our metabolism can be affected by stress, genes and sleep deprivation. If you find yourself making a number of changes but still not noticing a difference ... Doc Oz has found a way for you to melt fat regardless of what you -related issues you have had in the past. > DocOz Episode Clip > http://www.postcry.com/docoz/epsiode/may.video ................. What the Future Plan Looks Like ................. Breakfast: Keep the Same Lunch: Keep the Same Dinner: Keep the Same ** View 1 thing you have to change here: http://www.postcry.com/docoz/epsiode/may.video < G4D Group > Message Settings - 3801 D o w n s W a y Garland, TX 75040 http://www.postcry.com/93hrf/smk.siu3h I am doing a website for a Women's Abuse Resource Center. A lot of centers like this have what is referred to by the centers as a "Panic Button". An example of a basic one is found here at the top of every page in the green bar. The idea of the link or button is for if a women was looking at this website for help, and their abuser or someone they didn't want to know walked in the room, it allows for a fast escape. Sometimes a link is much faster then closing a browser window and that can be suspicious. The problem I see is that most buttons I see doing this just send you to google or something like that. I am going to do something like this: LEAVE WEBSITE NOW or '>LEAVE WEBSITE NOW A link like that will scroll you to some actual content. Its not a blank Google search but is also not a very specific thing that could be seen as suspicious. I know that blocking the referrer is good but even with that solution you can hit the back button on your browser and your caught. For this problem I thought I could do something this: HTML LEAVE WEBSITE NOW JavaScript function goNewWin() { window.open("backbuttonnewpage.html",'TheNewpop','toolbar=1,location=1,directories=1,status=1,menubar=1,scrollbars=1,resizable=1'); self.close() } I am posting because there are lives at risk with this and I need something that is as close to a total solution as can be. How would you do this? UPDATE- 3-26-14: I ran some of the educational ideas posted here by the resource center I am working with and here was their answer. "It takes extreme courage for our users to even come on our website. When they come they are looking for a fast easy resource to get out of a possibly life threatening situation. They would not have the time or the mental capacity in most cases to educate themselves on a safe way to browse our website. When presented with the idea of a "panic button", when done properly, has seemed to be a resource that is always asked for by most victims that we treat." After reading a lot of the ideas here it seems like a total solution would be a large button that floats in a constant position on left hand side. When the page loads it loads another site in the background (maybe an ajax call) so that clicking the button just removes the overlaying frame. This will mean no load time when clicked. To avoid a back button press of the browser it seems like telling the browser not to cache is necessary as well as possibly using replaceState on every page change to disable a back button that reveals this site. This is still very much a technical question. The debate helps very much but I still need a working technical solution. Anyone think they are able to get all these ideas together into something functional? Ill be working on it right away myself and will post anything I come up with. Thanks all. I put an example on my AWS instance at 54.186.79.95 Go to that page, click the button, visit another page, then hit back, you're now on 54.186.79.95/decoywebsite and there's no record of you being on 54.186.79.95/, if cache is disabled, your server will see the "../decoywebsite" request and send a decoy page. Unfortunately, you can't modify the entire domain so you would need the domain to be not suspicious. If you want to get rid of the page content, I believe the best way is to use document.body.innerHTML='';. You are still technically on the page but all the content is gone. Next step is to modify your browser history. window.history.replaceState (link to docs) is an HTML5 feature that can modify your history without doing a page reload or a request to your server. It's pretty fast but only works on modern browsers. When the user clicks the panic button, we will replace the current page in his history with a fake url. If the abusive user clicks back, your server (Php, python, whatever) will receive a request with your fake url. So you need to have another endpoint in your server (Let me know if you don't understand endpoints). Make a benign article, recipe, or weather report with a similar look and feel to your original website in order to avoid suspicion if the abuser got a quick glance at the website. Also make sure the browser's doesn't cache by using the tag. Additional Remarks Ideally your entire website (except your decoy article of course) should be an SPA (Single Page Application) so that it only ever produces one browser history record and you only have to modify that one. At the end of the day, I don't think you can't make a panic button that's 100% foolproof, there's gonna be ways around it. You just have to find one with an acceptable level of security and convenience. ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE: LOCALLY CHANGE THE INCRIMINATING INFO AND MODIFY BROWSER HISTORY I was also thinking if instead of loading google, if it's not best to actually transform your site locally with innocent info. This looks less suspicious than loading google (everyone does that) and you can do it all locally without reloading the page.When they click the panic button, you do some fast (and cross-browser compliant) DOM manipulation to change the incriminating info on your website and make it look innocent (maybe just change the text, it has to be fast). This way, it's all done locally which in the vast majo javascript htmlshare|improve this question3I would start by either clearing or obscuring the current page (using javascript) when the link is clicked (because it can take some time for a link to be followed...) Cameron Mar 26 at 0:057Interestingly, in the linked page, the "click here to leave quickly" link seems inaccessible on iPad, obscured by social media buttons...about the worst ux decision I've seen in recent history :/ David Thomas Mar 26 at 0:20Agree with David Thomas about preference w/ default to google -- using MSN would by itself be suspicious in my house. Stephen P Mar 26 at 0:22What is your actual question? Petah Mar 26 at 0:35Putting the button at the top seems like an awful placement. Think about fitts' law You have a thin strip that somebody has to hit, and if they overshoot they won't hit it. Ridiculous. Put it on the left, where the majority of users can take advantage of the effectively infinite size. (Right could be scrollbar on some displays, bottom is d efault taskbar, top is default tab bar. 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S.Lott Jan 16 '12 at 23:552no code, no attempts = downvote juliomalegria Jan 17 '12 at 0:14right now I get the following IOError: ('http error', 401, 'Unauthorized', ) Jimbo Mombasa Jan 17 '12 at 9:22wow I used to be rep 44 one question and 25% less :( Jimbo Mombasa Jan 17 '12 at 9:29And you tagged this question as c# for...? I4V May 1 '13 at 22:27 I've tried to fix your indentation, but please look it over and make sure this is what your code actually looks like. abarnert May 1 '13 at 22:28 How will you split 'ALRAGULH'? 200 OK May 1 '13 at 22:29 Side note: There is no reason to do for i, s in list(WHATEVER), because for i, s in WHATEVER will do the exact same thing (except in certain rare cases, like where WHATEVER is an iterator being consumed by other code at the same time). abarnert May 1 '13 at 22:29You asked this exact question two days ago, and it was closed. Why are you expecting different results now? Cairnarvon May 1 '13 at 22:31I'm sorry, but are you mixing up mathematical functions and Python functions? Torxed Apr 9 '13 at 14:35 2 So you want to take a string containing a mathematical expression, parse it, transform it, and return the stringified transformation? Silas Ray Apr 9 '13 at 14:35 Please put more effort into your question. Spelling Grammar Formatting John Kugelman Apr 9 '13 at 14:38 The ribs tasted just as good as they looked. I dipped and poured sauce on the ribs and chicken. The sauce was incredible. It truly was one of the best BBQ sauces I've tasted. Maybe I was living in the moment, but even now I can't recall a BBQ sauce that was as good as Tom Jenkins. The chicken was actually pretty good. I'm not typically a fan of smoked chicken, but their chicken was good. The skin wasn't soggy and the meat was tender enough. The ribs were great. They were fairly large and had a wonderful smokey taste guranteed to make your taste buds quiver. Fries were seasoned great. I'm glad they weren't unsalted and plain. The mac and cheese was ok, nothing noteworthy. go back to. The meat was good, as well as the sauce. The service wasn't bad at all. Entrees are about 8-12, give or take. The sandwiches are around 6. I'll be sure to try their pulled pork or brisket next time.I'll go to a mall just for food. Are you kidding me? 5 for a food court stand? Kelly's Cajun Grill is just that good I know it's a mall food court staple but I can't find a stand-alone restaurant anywhere else but a mall. Because of this, I will admit that I would go to the mall just for this. Kelly's has the best bourbon chicken that I've ever had. (Other than the one I make...but I'm too lazy to make it all the time). Kelly's will sell you the best plate of bourbon chicken and rice that 5 can . to be their little secret (Already cracked it), but they are the benchmark upon which I make my sauce. The chicken is always delicious. The rice there is good and so is the pasta that they make available. However, the pasta can be a little too garlicky/buttery for my taste. I made the mistake of trying something else. I had the charbroiled chicken sandwich. Now it wasn't that I didn't like it. It was actually very good, but my friend ordered the #1 (The bourbon chicken w/a side). As I was eating, I just kept regretting not getting that chicken. I was actually jealous of my friend. Ridiculous. It's For those with the unlimited meal plan, you can eat healthy here too. Grab small quick meals or grab an apple if your heart so desires. But for those without that meal plan; you're spending 8. Make the most of it.Ole Sole Mio is located in a strip mall (right next to Fuji Sushi) and it's a pretty small place so be careful not to overlook it. The interior is a lot nicer than the exterior will lead you to believe. That being said, it's still a restaurant in a shopping plaza. The staff is real nice and real helpful with any questions you have regarding the menu. The menu is pretty expansive. They include anitpasti, pastas, meats, salads, and pizza. Standard itali an fare. We heard the pizza was the thing to get here, so we knew we had to get one to share. We tried the minestrone soup which wasn't great. It was very "soupy". Is that the right word? There wasn't too much filling and it kind of tasted like a watered down tomato soup. We were pretty hungry so we ordered a plate of the baked ziti and a pepperoni pizza. The baked zit came with meatballs and italian sausage. It was good, but I thought it could have been "baked" a little more. I enjoy the cheese on top of any pasta dish to be nice and toasted. The cheese on top of the baked ziti was almost kinda runny. The meatballs were good but the sausage was the best part of the dish. The pasta was cooked near al dente so it was pretty good. The pizza is probably the best part about this place. The pepperoni pizza was hot and the slices were thin and were "foldable", which is always nice. But cheese was perfect so that it left strings coming from your mouth. 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You should consider "initializing" your variables to None, then testing it with if x is not None: instead of a mixture between 0 and empty string initialization jedwards Sep 24 '13 at 23:33 1 Please localise your problem a little further. Surely not all your code is relevant to the problem, and you haven't even indicated which line the error occurs at, or your attempts at debugging things. (E.g. what are the values of the variables in the statement that fails? Don't ask us to simulate your code in our heads.) millimoose Sep 24 '13 at 23:35lso: three levels of nested ifs under a while is pretty bad. More so that you clearly know functions since you're using them for error reporting. millimoose Sep 24 '1 3 at 23:38While this is true, a salient question is why is iPinNo an integer? The answer is because OP is using input and should be using raw_input. kojiro Sep 24 '13 at 23:3@kojiro OP is using Python 3. iPinNo is an integer because he does iPinNo = 0 at the beginning Haidro Sep 24 '13 at 23:34 Do you say that because he uses parentheses around print "arguments"? That could be Python 2.7. kojiro Sep 24 '13 at 23:351 @kojiro I say that because he also uses input() for asking for the user to enter his name and last name. He'd be having NameErrors. Haidro Sep 24 '13 at 23:36Good point. We should really require version tags on questions like this. :P kojiro Sep 24 '13 at 23:37 @kojiro You know, I might make a meta post about that. That's a good point Haidro Sep 24 '13 at 23:37 Superfluous comment: Another way to find out how many digits are in a number is 1 + int(math.log(number, base)). Don't ask me when that'd be useful, but sometimes purists don't want to convert a number to a "string". ;) kojiro Sep 24 '13 at 23:40Thanks man, you are awesome user2813115 Sep 24 '13 at 23:42Could somebody help me out also with the password and password verification section now, as the pin is working :) user2813115 Sep 24 '13 at 23:43@user2813115 De-indent the if not sPasswordVerification==sPassword: code block. Haidro Sep 24 '13 at 23:Why are you using double parens in your prints? And what do you think sys.ext will do? Wooble Sep 24 '13 at 23:42Also: Python gives you tracebacks for a reason. 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CGRect labelFrame = CGRectMake(20, 20, 280, 150); UILabel *myLabel = [[UILabel alloc] initWithFrame:labelFrame]; [myLabel setBackgroundColor:[UIColor orangeColor]]; NSString *labelText = @"I am the very model of a modern Major-General, I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral"; [myLabel setText:labelText]; Whether lineBreakMode is respected depends on how it's set. NSLineBreakByTruncatingTail (the default) is ignored after sizeToFit, as are the other two truncation modes (head and middle). NSLineBreakByClipping is also ignored. NSLineBreakByCharWrapping works as usual. The frame width is still narrowed to fit to the rightmost letter. Mark Amery gave a fix for NIBs and Storyboards using Auto Layout in the comments: If your label is included in a nib or storyboard as a subview of the view of a ViewController that uses autolayout, then putting your sizeToFit call into viewDidLoad won't work, because autolayout sizes and positions the subviews after viewDidLoad is called and will immediately undo the effects of your sizeToFit call. However, calling sizeToFit from within viewDidLayoutSubviews will work. // Tell the label to use an unlimited number of lines [myLabel setNumberOfLines:0]; [myLabel sizeToFit]; The reason for this warning is that with ARC, the runtime needs to know what to do with the result of the method you're calling. The result could be anything: void, int, char, NSString *, id, etc. ARC normally gets this information from the header of the object type you're working with.2 There are really only 4 things that ARC would consider for the return value:3 Ignore non-object types (void, int, etc) Retain object value, then release when it is no longer used (standard assumption) Release new object values when no longer used (methods in the init/ copy family or attributed with ns_returns_retained) Do nothing & assume returned object value will be valid in local scope (until inner most release pool is drained, attributed with ns_returns_autoreleased) The call to methodForSelector: assumes that the return value of the method it's calling is an object, but does not retain/release it. So you could end up creating a leak if your object is supposed to be released as in #3 above (that is, the method you're calling returns a new object). For selectors you're trying to call that return void or other non-objects, you could enable compiler features to ignore the warning, but it may be dangerous. I've seen Clang go through a few iterations of how it handles return values that aren't assigned to local variables. There's no reason that with ARC enabled that it can't retain and release the object value that's returned from methodForSelector: even though you don't want to use it. From the compiler's perspective, it is an object after all. That means that if the method you're calling, someMethod, is returning a non object (including void), you could end up with a garbage pointer value being retained/released and cras -to modify message status w/ Urgent Info Services 3-2-0-5 -Lake Sarah-Independence, M i n n e s o t a-55359 or http://www.ceptropical.com/hgvki.snri3 This works if you want your UILabel to only have one line of text. If you want multiple lines, like I did, this doesn't work as it makes the label one long line. Ben Clayton Sep 10 '10 at 16:54To me, this is the best answer -- particularly when your localizing your text. The Number of Lines can be set in Interface Builder, eliminating one step. I would tweak it a bit, however: myLabel.frame = CGRectMake(myLabel.frame.origin.x, myLabel.frame.origin.y, myLabel.frame.size.width, 800); Axeva Nov 18 '10 at 13:52+1 This is the best solution IMO, particularly if using IB. As long as numberOfLines is set to 0 in IB then all I needed to do was call sizeToFit and it worked like a charm. Jonathan Moffatt Aug 13 '11 at 23:11thanks a lot. I also tried to utilize -sizeToFit, but the result was the same as Ben Clayton described - one long line. so I simply changed numberOfLines to 0 (had it previously set to 3) and everything worked fine. So, to recap: set numberOfLines to 0 when creating a l abel and then every time the label's text property is updated: 1) reset its width to base width 2) call -sizeToFit. Russian Oct 21 '11 at 9:02This is nice and concise. The issue I had was constraining my label to the max size I want to allow. I got around it by testing if the resulting label height was greater than my desired max. If so resetting the height: CGRect frame = self.myLabel.frame; if (frame.size.height > 228) { self.myLabel.frame = CGRectMake(10,37,400,228); } DenVog Apr 27 '12 at 22:48 Explanation What's going on here is you're asking the controller for the C function pointer for the method corresponding to the controller. All NSObjects respond to methodForSelector:, but you can also use class_getMethodImplementation in the Objective-C runtime (useful if you only have a protocol reference, like id). These function pointers are called IMPs, and are simple typedefed function pointers (id (*IMP)(id, SEL, ...))1. This may be close to the actual method signature of the method, but will not always match exactly. Once you have the IMP, you need to cast it to a function pointer that includes all of the details that ARC needs (including the two implicit hidden arguments self and _cmd of every Objective-C method call). This is handled in the third line (the (void *) on the right hand side simply tells the compiler that you know what you're doing and not to generate a warning since the pointer types don't match). Finally, you call the function pointer. 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Dr. Schoenfelder concludes: "My hope is that this research can help inform our efforts to prevent negative outcomes for kids with ADHD, including cigarette smoking. This population hasn't been targeted for smoking prevention efforts, despite the well-known connection between ADHD and smoking." In 2012, Medical News Today reported on a study that suggested a genetic link behind the association between smoking and ADHD. That study identified a gene variant, the C allele of rs1329650, as increasing risk for both ADHD and smoking. 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This aircraft was shot down by a SA-2 missile from the North Vietnamese 61st Battalion, 236th Missile Regiment over Nghe An province on 18 March 1966 (coordinates 191958N 1050959E). The crew, Lt. Brent Davis and Lt. Everett McPherson, died. VMAQ-2 boasts a proud history of service to the Marine Corps through its predecessor squadrons flying various electronic warfare aircraft, to include: the AD-5 Skyraider, the EF-10 Skyknight, an d the EA-6A Intruder. VMC-2 was the original composite squadron in Marine Corps aviation. It was commissioned at Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point on September 15, 1952 evolving from the former Airborne Early Warning and Electronic Counter Measures section of the Wing Headquarters Squadron. On December 1, 1955, the squadron was redesignated as VMCJ-2 after former Marine Photographic Squadron 2 (VMJ-2) was decommissioned and joined VMC-2. 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Although very obviously based on Munro's characters, the names of Para Handy, the Vital Spark, etc. are never mentioned, probably due to copyright issues.In the second version, The Vital Spark, McMillan took the role of Para Handy, and Grieve reprised his role as McPhail; Walter Carr (Dougie the Mate) and Alex McAvoy (Sunny Jim) completed the crew, and the series ran for three series between 1965 and 1974. The third series, filmed several years after the first two, was in colour and consisted of remakes of selected earlier episodes.In 1994 BBC Scotland produced "The Tales Of Para Handy" which starred Gregor Fisher in the lead role alongside Sean Scanlan as Dougie, Andrew Fairlie as Sunny Jim and Rikki Fulton as Dan McPhail. 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The way these steam lighters with their steam-powered derricks could offload at any suitable beach or small pier is featured in many Vital Spark stories, ist mein getreuer Hirt (no. 1)81263337Der Herr ist mein getreuer Hirt (no. 2)82*-32?-Der Herr ist mein getreuer Hirt (no. 3) (possibly by Johann Peter Heuschkel)83-32?-Der Herr ist mein getreuer Hirt (no. 4) (only incipit survives)85273438Der Tag, der ist so freudenreich50b---Dies' sind die heil'gen zehn Gebot' (no. 1), arrangement of P50a by Johann Gottfried Walther101*---Dies' sind die heil'gen zehn Gebot' (no. 2)1032835?40Durch Adams Fall ist ganz verderbt (no. 1)1042935?41Durch Adams Fall ist ganz verderbt (no. 2)105303642Durch Adams Fall ist ganz verderbt (no. 3)106313743Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott (no. 1)107---Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott (no. 2)108*-37?-Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott (no. 3)109323844Erbarm dich mein, o Herre Gott (no. 1)110*-38?-Erbarm dich mein, o Herre Gott (no. 2)111*3339?45Erhalt uns, Herr, bei deinem Wort (no. 1) (possibly by Georg Bhm or Dieterich Buxtehude)112*-39?-Erhalt uns, Herr, bei deinem Wort (no. 2) (possibly by Georg Bhm or Dieterich Buxtehud e)114*3440?46Es spricht der Unweisen Mund wohl (no. 1)1153541?47Es spricht der Unweisen Mund wohl (no. 2)116*-40?-Es spricht der Unweisen Mund wohl (no. 3)117*-42-Es stehn vor Gottes Thron1183643?48Es woll' uns Gott gendig sein (no. 1)1193743?49Es woll' uns Gott gendig sein (no. 2)120*-43?-Es woll' uns Gott gendig sein (no. 3)121*-59-Esaia, dem Propheten das geschah166*3844?50Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ (no. 1)167*-44?-Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ (no. 2)169*-45-Gleich wie ein Hirsch begehret170*-46-Gleich wie sich fein ein Vgelein1713947?51Gott der Vater wohn uns bei (no. 1)172*-47?-Gott der Vater wohn uns bei (no. 2)174*4011152Gott hat das Evangelium (possibly by Johann Michael Bach)178*4111253Gott Vater, der du deine Sonn' (possibly by Johann Michael Bach)179*-48-Gottes Sohn ist kommen1814249?54Herr Christ, der einig' Gottes Sohn (no. 1) (also known as Herr Christ, Gnadensonne)182*---Herr Christ, der einig' Gottes Sohn (no. 2)182bis*-113?-Herr Christ, Roots Museum and ArchivesEstablished1955LocationGeorgian Bluffs, OntarioTypeCounty museumWebsiteGrey Roots websiteCoordinates: 443120N 805628W / 44.52215N 80.94113W / 44.52215; -80.94113Grey Roots Museum and Archives began as a county museum in 1955. located just beside the main building, spans a time period from the 1850s to the 1920s. 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You can also use NSString *URLString = [NSString stringWithContentsOfURL:[NSURL Uencoding:NSUTF8StringEncoding error:nil]; To get rid of the annoying warning. Abd-Elrhman Rizk Oct 29 '13 at 16:56 try using Reachability class from theStep 2) Add Reachability.h and Reachability.m to the project What do you mean by that? How shall we add it? create empty class or somehow else? Thanks Burjua Oct 13 '10 at 15:49 Reachability.h and .m are included in Apple's Reachability example in the iPhone OS Reference Library. You get those files from there. iWasRobbed Oct 13 '10 at 22:5 I think if "google.com" isn't reachable, then, yes, the Internet has problems! But, if your app requires Internet connectivity in general, google is as general as it gets! If it requires access to a particular server then why not use that server for testing? gonzobrains Jun 14 '11 at 10:55 9 and add #import to Reachability.h to fix the "declaration of 'struct sockaddr_in' will not be visible outside of this function" warning Patch Aug 21 '12 at 8:1I think it's worth mentioning the isReachable method of Reachability instances here. Using the callbacks that fire when the connectivity status changes isn't always the cleanest way of doing things - you frequently want to check if the user is connected right now, for example right before trying to send a web request - and showing people only this approach in your answer will encourage them to needlessly create their own instance variable to keep track of whether or not the user is connected, duplicating existing functionality. (Indeed, right after reading this answer I made that mistake.) From HaileyMccormick@infinity-ltd.garacidic.com Tue May 13 12:04:20 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E57E1A0176 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 12:04:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.148 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.148 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DIET_1=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_45=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_46=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_54=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_66=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_71=0.6, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iZX9_d8iaLMa for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 12:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infinity-ltd.garacidic.com (infinity-ltd.garacidic.com [46.30.149.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCED1A0158 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 12:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 15 lbs lighter (DocOz Ep) Message-ID: <7cfc4eff1aa4d6a3146719264c5cddae.CDC-CompMail-Server1@infinity-ltd.garacidic.com> To: From: DocOz Exclusive Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:04:11 -0700 Weight-Loss Trick for EVERY Body Type Melt Fat no matter what your shape. 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Only you know the context. jdi Feb 2 '12 at 22:50 I understand what your saying and I'm sorry, I think I didn't provide some details(I didn't realize they were relevant). I can't import moduleA into moduleB because I'm already importing moduleB into moduleA and it get errors when I do a circular import. typically this is what I do, and then refer to the variable as moduleA.constList Also, function200 is not being called directly from function1, function1 kind of sends to other functions based on results within its own function, and so on until a function(could be several functions later) sends to function2000 Lostsoul Feb 2 '12 at 23:05 You probably just need to use classes and rethink the organization of your program. There is always an entry point, and something is using something else. Even if there are 200 pieces of logic between those two function calls, it would eventually unwind back up to the top of the stack where pricelist exists. Sorry we couldn't give you more of a concrete solution. jdi Feb 2 '12 at 23:12 Thank you, I think you gave me a great solution. I learned programming in highschool(very basic) almost 2 decades ago and I didn't learn OO very well so I just avoided using it. This problem showed me a reason to use it and learn. Codes getting unnecessary complicated and messy, so I'll just take it as a chance to learn using classes. Thank you for setting me on the right direction. okay thats what I needed to know I guess. Your right, I am not that good with object oriented programming so I was sticking to what I was more confortable with(functions). I guess I'll bite the bullet and use objects, I guess it'll be a good time to learn. Than What do you mean by "I assume?" Did you not write this class? Also, you do not assign anything to the enemy attribute of this class in your constructor, so you obviously are not assigning self.enemy in the Enemy class. Then you can get the health by saying enemy_dict[name]. You have to choose a name, though - you can make sure you are choosing a valid name by saying if name in enemy_dict.keys(). You can now say an_enemy = Enemy(name, enemy_dict[name]).If you want to implement "random encounters," it's as easy as using the random module. You already use random.choice - so this shouldn't be too hard. Just use enemy_dict.keys() instead if you are using a dictionary.self.enemy = random.choice(enemy_dict.keys()) The above code makes the enemy attribute be the name, which is the key for that dictionary. To get the health, of course, it's enemy_dict[self.enemy].You should note that if you modify the health in the enemy_dict, that will affect every object's perception of that enemy's health. If your enemy_dict represents unique entities, that's fine - but if you wanted to have more than one "sprite", you could use the enemy_dict as a type of lookup table from which to get random types of enemies to fight, and you would do better to use something like this:self.enemy_name = random.choice(enemy_dict.keys())self.enemy_health = enemy_dict[self.enemy_name] Furthermore, you are trying to call .keys() and .values() on enemy_dict which is a list. It doesn't have those methods. If it were a dict, you would be trying to assign something like ['sprite', 'thief'] to the enemy's name anyway, and likewise [5, 10] to the health.You also are not passing enemy_dict as an argument to Enemy's __init__. You should, if you wrote this class yourself, change it to be:def __init__(self, name, health): self.name = name self.health = values And call it like so: an_enemy = Enemy(enemy_dict[0][0], enemy_dict[0][1]). This is assuming you are not going to change enemy_dict, which you really should do. 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Is there a way to make sure that it is actually connected to the internet and not just to a network? msec May 2 '12 at 10:29Hi @msec, you can try Andrew Zimmer solution in this page, it works fine with adsl disconnected (and wifi connected) Williew May 5 '12 at 2:3Hi @Williew I tried implementing Andrew Zimmer's solution, I copied it as it was above and it still does not work. If you have managed to get it to get this code to check beyond simply a WiFi connection then I assume that you have made some modifications to his code? If so, could you post them? From my understanding it cannot work with kSCNetworkReachabilityFlags as this only check to see if a packet leaves the device, it does not check to see if the host received the packet. msec May 6 '12 at 5:35Hi @msec i didnt change this code (only change + with - to get an instance method), and before I call a post method to put data in a server i've just call if([self hasConnectivity]){... post data using NSMutableURLRequest ... may be I just need to check more cases, but using my Ipad connected with wifi, i disconnected adsl and this method detect that I lose connectivity when I tried to put some data on the server, I didnt test if adsl connection was down in the middle of transfer (I will test and let you know) Williew May 8 '12 at 1:08 @Williew did you test this scenario 1. disconnect adsl. 2. post. 3. connect adsl. 4. post? I coded the same solution as what cannyboy provided, it works fine on test step 1 and 2, i.e. tells me correctly that there is no network connection. but failed on step 3 and 4, i.e. it failed to detect that the network is back online. did you try that? also I tried by doing turning on/off the airplane mode. tomThanks. I discovered that the Xcode documentation in 3.0 also contains the source code, found by searching for "reachability" in the documentation. Brock Woolf Jul 5 '09 at 11:37Note that from experience, you should NOT use the Reachability code as-is. Note the part where the code mentions uncommenting a bit to use it asynchronosouly? Use that to get connectivity notifications. Also, always set the host value for reachability and do not use the reachability code as a pre-flight check to see if a connection is OK. Instead, start the Reachability notifications, then start you connectio n going - you'll get a notification right away if there i no connection and you can cancel the original request then issue an alert or do whatever you need to do. 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Brown Harris Stevens A 52nd Street duplex currently on sale for $19.5 million. Source: Brown Harris Stevens #7 BRENTWOOD, CA (90049): This Los Angeles neighborhood had eight home sales over $10 million. Coldwell Bankers Preview International A 13-bedroom home in Brentwood listed for $35 million. Source: Coldwell Banker Previews International #6 (TIE) MALIBU, CA (90265): This affluent beach community in northwestern LA had 10 home sales over $10 million. Coldwell Bankers Preview International A $54 million, 13-bedroom mansion in Malibu. Source: Coldwell Banker Previews International #6 (TIE) NEW YORK, NY (10028): NYC's Upper East Side neighborhood from 80th Street to 86th Street had 10 home sales over $10 million. Coldwell Bankers Preview International The most expensive home in NYC's 10028 zip code is currently this $3.695 million apartment. Source: Coldwell Banker Previews International #6 (TIE) NEW YORK, NY (10014): NYC's West Village and Meatpacking District neighborhoods had 10 home sales over $10 million. Coldwell Bankers Preview International A $14 million house on Bethune Street in NYC's 10014 neighborhood. Source: Coldwell Banker Previews International #5 MIAMI BEACH, FL (33139): South Miami Beach, home to some of Florida's best restaurants and nightlife, had 11 home sales over $10 million. Coldwell Bankers Preview International This 11-bedroom home in Miami's 33139 zip code is listed for $35 million. Source: Coldwell Banker Previews International #4 BEL AIR, CA (90077): An affluent residential community on the Westside of LA, Bel Air had 12 home sales over $10 million. Coldwell Bankers Preview International A $75 million, 10-bedroom mansion in LA with tennis court. Source: Coldwell Banker Previews International #3 (TIE) ASPEN, CO (81611): The favorite ski town of millionaires, Aspen had 16 home sales over $10 million. Coldwell Bankers Preview International A seven-bedroom home in Aspen on sale for $39.75 million. Source: Coldwell Banker Previews International #3 (TIE) NEW YORK, NY (10021): NYC's Upper East Side neighborhood from 69th Street to 76th Street had 16 home sales over $10 million. Coldwell Bankers Preview International The most expensive home in 10021 is this condo on 72nd street for $8.95 million. Source: Coldwell Banker Previews International #2 NEW YORK, NY (10023): NYC's Lincoln Square neighborhood on the Upper West Side had 17 home sales over $10 million. Coldwell Bankers Preview International A seven-bedroom condo in this building is currently listed for $12 million. Source: Coldwell Banker Previews International #1 BEVERLY HILLS, CA (90210): The most famous zip code in America, Beverly Hills had 18 homes sales over $10 million. Coldwell Bankers Preview International This nine-bedroom mansion in Beverly Hills is on sale for $32 million. 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I had the chicken parm w/ penne and whatever else they put in From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue May 13 19:18:16 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F481A01E8 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 19:18:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vx4AOz51W_h6 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 19:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BB31A01EB for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 19:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9927A856B; Wed, 14 May 2014 02:18:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0211.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.211]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 487618561 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 02:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.141.86.144) by DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.141.86.144) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.939.12; Wed, 14 May 2014 02:18:03 +0000 Received: from DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.86.144]) by DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.86.144]) with mapi id 15.00.0939.000; Wed, 14 May 2014 02:18:03 +0000 From: Soma Meiyappan To: "" Thread-Topic: printer-alert in PWG 5100.9 & its relevance in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan Thread-Index: Ac9vGqDSLroxIMWpSQGISE3DFZKKNQ== Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 02:18:01 +0000 Message-ID: <429b3805e44f4a97bd7667fd21ec424a@DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [198.62.10.100] x-forefront-prvs: 0211965D06 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009001)(979002)(6009001)(428001)(199002)(189002)(83322001)(99396002)(76576001)(21056001)(54356999)(86362001)(74502001)(76482001)(66066001)(4396001)(64706001)(81342001)(33646001)(87936001)(77982001)(83072002)(20776003)(99286001)(74316001)(92566001)(101416001)(50986999)(80022001)(31966008)(2656002)(46102001)(77096999)(85852003)(79102001)(74662001)(81542001)(40252001)(24736002)(491001)(969003)(989001)(999001)(1009001)(1019001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:DM2PR08MB702; H:DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:ovrnspm; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (: conexant.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com; MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: conexant.com Subject: [IPP] printer-alert in PWG 5100.9 & its relevance in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Hello, PWG 5100.9 allows an alert code(PrtAlertCodeTC) 'configurationChange' for printer-alert. This value sounds like it is defined to be an event rather than a state. If you think that it is a 'state' rather than an 'event', can you please explain how? If it should be treated as a 'state', then should devices initiate a self-determined-timeout value to come out of that 'state' (this sounds like a method to morph an event into a state)? If it is indeed an 'event', then please explain why this attribute (printer-alert) is part of the REQUIRED table in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan specifications when the IPP operations for event subscription themselves are optional. Thanks and Regards, Somasundaram. _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue May 13 19:34:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F2E1A0153 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 19:34:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8Y5DcG7pQwV8 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 19:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BC81A011A for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 19:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705E4856B; Wed, 14 May 2014 02:34:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: IPP@pwg.org Delivered-To: IPP@pwg.org Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0210.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.210]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 925188561 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 02:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.141.86.144) by DM2PR08MB704.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (10.141.86.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.939.12; Wed, 14 May 2014 02:34:08 +0000 Received: from DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.86.144]) by DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.86.144]) with mapi id 15.00.0939.000; Wed, 14 May 2014 02:34:08 +0000 From: Soma Meiyappan To: "IPP@pwg.org" Thread-Topic: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification Thread-Index: Ac9rk+wjEb418R5BSMCrv1Uqd0No4ADh5Rtw Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 02:34:07 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [198.62.10.100] x-forefront-prvs: 0211965D06 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009001)(428001)(252514010)(243025003)(189002)(199002)(48214007)(377454003)(41584004)(66066001)(46102001)(86362001)(76576001)(92566001)(99286001)(80022001)(15202345003)(83322001)(76482001)(74316001)(19625215002)(15975445006)(101416001)(33646001)(79102001)(2656002)(31966008)(16236675002)(76176999)(64706001)(4396001)(21056001)(85852003)(83072002)(77982001)(74662001)(81342001)(19300405004)(50986999)(81542001)(99396002)(20776003)(19580395003)(19580405001)(74502001)(54356999)(87936001)(77096999)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:DM2PR08MB704; H:DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (: conexant.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com; MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: conexant.com Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1483819688==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1483819688== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_bed3134f1252413eb89a95875582fd3eDM2PR08MB702namprd08pro_" --_000_bed3134f1252413eb89a95875582fd3eDM2PR08MB702namprd08pro_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pete et al, I have a concern about printer-config-change-date-time printer-state-change-date-time These attributes figure in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The above att= ributes require the scan device to have a notion of wall clock time (whethe= r it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To increase the cha= nces of making use of that effectively & correctly, all clients would be re= quired to use this somehow in reference to printer-current-time and not to = the wall-clock time that the client might know through other sources. That = makes me wonder if it is sufficient to have printer-state-change-time and p= rinter-config-change-time as required and make xxxx-date-time as optional. I have a similar question on FaxOut; but at least on FaxOut, the devices ar= e expected to have a notion of wall-clock time although the point about how= clients should use that information with reference to printer-current-time= still seems applicable. Regards, Somasundaram. From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Zehler,= Peter Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM To: IPP@pwg.org Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification All, This message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP Scan Serv= ice specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent discussio= ns. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine for = this) and it will be collected and processed as quickly as possible. Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the August= 2014 F2F. Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701 --_000_bed3134f1252413eb89a95875582fd3eDM2PR08MB702namprd08pro_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Pete et al,

I have a concern about=

printer-config-change= -date-time

printer-state-change-= date-time

These attributes figur= e in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The above attributes require the sc= an device to have a notion of wall clock time (whether it is accurate or no= t to the global wall clock time). To increase the chances of making use of that effectively & correctly, al= l clients would be required to use this somehow in reference to printer-cur= rent-time and not to the wall-clock time that the client might know through= other sources. That makes me wonder if it is sufficient to have printer-state-change-time and printer-config-c= hange-time as required and make xxxx-date-time as optional.

I have a similar quest= ion on FaxOut; but at least on FaxOut, the devices are expected to have a n= otion of wall-clock time although the point about how clients should use th= at information with reference to printer-current-time still seems applicable.

Regards,

Somasundaram.

From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces= @pwg.org] On Behalf Of Zehler, Peter
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM
To: IPP@pwg.org
Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification

All,

This message initiates the IPP Working Group last ca= ll of the IPP Scan Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent discus= sions.

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.p= df

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509= .pdf

Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (re= ply-all works fine for this) and it will be collected and processed as quic= kly as possible.

Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the August 2014 F2F.

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com=
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--_000_bed3134f1252413eb89a95875582fd3eDM2PR08MB702namprd08pro_-- --===============1483819688== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1483819688==-- From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed May 14 07:29:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851AF1A0296 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 07:29:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.429 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.429 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DRUGS_MUSCLE=0.01, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bLbE6Xrin5OE for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 07:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA371A00FE for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 07:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60BE8547; Wed, 14 May 2014 14:29:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-ie0-x22e.google.com (mail-ie0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22e]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDC198544 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 14:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id at1so1840106iec.5 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 07:29:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=gNh/dw7mDAz7RzOSEiXCjlbX/kUTE6aPvXRHLMX8/NY=; b=Nt9G5rHHxHMXyVTmV65+GaXC/JeAtlX8nu6HLWGNIe9dSr180m80MbUmi7QlrE8idT DDor2kB9rtXfLfrSLGOnd6s4zw7JMz23T8q/g/4TwQyahf5ubYEpJy7ICkpZTtQmZ6qh EEg/I13seySxI2qDGWhr4J4SqDId4z/UB4P7fHPniJ2WOKLNguK+61utIiV13omei3AR DSERuWuQMSm9A/glkUHmU3GJ051513qDwnPx2bwb5DFpjQ3qWDhIBjerT32CxoQv7eZ+ Fn4UEownuXsOQB0zvoqwUv90dg/5tXaz3zdQ38t1pUbeyWW3w1cnCeZhn603zR/DJh33 /ueg== X-Received: by 10.50.154.73 with SMTP id vm9mr65838239igb.14.1400077749509; Wed, 14 May 2014 07:29:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.168.100 with HTTP; Wed, 14 May 2014 07:28:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <429b3805e44f4a97bd7667fd21ec424a@DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> References: <429b3805e44f4a97bd7667fd21ec424a@DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 10:28:49 -0400 Message-ID: To: Soma Meiyappan , Ira McDonald Cc: "" Subject: Re: [IPP] printer-alert in PWG 5100.9 & its relevance in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1619831628==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1619831628== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd75ecceae1ef04f95d007d --047d7bd75ecceae1ef04f95d007d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, 'configurationChange' has always been a one-time event - it was originally derived from the prtGeneralConfigChanges counter in Printer MIB v1 and v2 (RFC 1759 and RFC 3805). It was defined as OPTIONAL event (not state) in IPP Events Notifications and Subscriptions (RFC 3995), named 'printer-config-changed'. Some confusion may arise because PWG 5100.9 defines new values for the IPP attribute "job-state-reasons" - these are NOT states - they are durable reasons that "job-state" may have changed in the past. They must not be simply "aged" out of the "job-state-reasons" attribute. But, if they reflect a binary event (e.g., coverOpen), then they must be removed from "job-state-reasons" when the condition clears. I'll let Mike and Pete answer why it's listed as REQUIRED in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan. That doesn't sound right to me, based on RFC 3995. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Soma Meiyappan < Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> wrote: > Hello, > > PWG 5100.9 allows an alert code(PrtAlertCodeTC) 'configurationChange' for > printer-alert. This value sounds like it is defined to be an event rather > than a state. > > If you think that it is a 'state' rather than an 'event', can you please > explain how? If it should be treated as a 'state', then should devices > initiate a self-determined-timeout value to come out of that 'state' (this > sounds like a method to morph an event into a state)? > > If it is indeed an 'event', then please explain why this attribute > (printer-alert) is part of the REQUIRED table in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan > specifications when the IPP operations for event subscription themselves > are optional. > > Thanks and Regards, > Somasundaram. > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > --047d7bd75ecceae1ef04f95d007d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

&= #39;configurationChange' has always been a one-time event - it was orig= inally derived
from the prtGeneralConfigChanges counter in Printer= MIB v1 and v2 (RFC 1759 and

RFC 3805).=C2=A0 It was defined as OPTIONAL event (not state) in IPP = Events Notifications
and Subscriptions (RFC 3995), named 'printer-c= onfig-changed'.

Some confusion may arise becaus= e PWG 5100.9 defines new values for the IPP
attribute "job-state-reasons" - these are NOT states - they are d= urable reasons that
"job-state" may have changed in= the past.=C2=A0 They must not be simply "aged" out of the

"job-state-reasons" attribute.=C2=A0 But, if they reflect a = binary event (e.g., coverOpen),
then they must be removed fro= m "job-state-reasons" when the condition clears.

I&#= 39;ll let Mike and Pete answer why it's listed as REQUIRED in IPP FaxOu= t and IPP Scan.

That doesn't sound right to me, based on RFC 3995.

C= heers,
- Ira

<= div>
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Cha= ir - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
= IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High No= rth Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic=
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: bluero= ofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0= 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI= 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Soma M= eiyappan <Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hello,

PWG 5100.9 allows an alert code(PrtAlertCodeTC) 'configurationChange= 9; for printer-alert. This value sounds like it is defined to be an event r= ather than a state.

If you think that it is a 'state' rather than an 'event', c= an you please explain how? If it should be treated as a 'state', th= en should devices initiate a self-determined-timeout value to come out of t= hat 'state' (this sounds like a method to morph an event into a sta= te)?

If it is indeed an 'event', then please explain why this attribute = (printer-alert) is part of the REQUIRED table in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan sp= ecifications when the IPP operations for event subscription themselves are = optional.

Thanks and Regards,
Somasundaram.

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Unary events (including 'configurationChange') in Printer MIB "prtAlertTable" are indeed allowed to be (but not required to be) "aged" out (delete oldest unary event first, is the typical implementation). The algorithm used is implementation defined. The same would be true for the IPP mapping of "prtAlertTable" rows. See the discussion of configuration change and other unary events in section 2.2.13.4 Alert Table Management on pages 22-23 of RFC 3805. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: > Hi, > > 'configurationChange' has always been a one-time event - it was originally > derived > from the prtGeneralConfigChanges counter in Printer MIB v1 and v2 (RFC > 1759 and > RFC 3805). It was defined as OPTIONAL event (not state) in IPP Events > Notifications > and Subscriptions (RFC 3995), named 'printer-config-changed'. > > Some confusion may arise because PWG 5100.9 defines new values for the IPP > attribute "job-state-reasons" - these are NOT states - they are durable > reasons that > "job-state" may have changed in the past. They must not be simply "aged" > out of the > "job-state-reasons" attribute. But, if they reflect a binary event (e.g., > coverOpen), > then they must be removed from "job-state-reasons" when the condition > clears. > > I'll let Mike and Pete answer why it's listed as REQUIRED in IPP FaxOut > and IPP Scan. > That doesn't sound right to me, based on RFC 3995. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Soma Meiyappan < > Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> PWG 5100.9 allows an alert code(PrtAlertCodeTC) 'configurationChange' for >> printer-alert. This value sounds like it is defined to be an event rather >> than a state. >> >> If you think that it is a 'state' rather than an 'event', can you please >> explain how? If it should be treated as a 'state', then should devices >> initiate a self-determined-timeout value to come out of that 'state' (this >> sounds like a method to morph an event into a state)? >> >> If it is indeed an 'event', then please explain why this attribute >> (printer-alert) is part of the REQUIRED table in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan >> specifications when the IPP operations for event subscription themselves >> are optional. >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> Somasundaram. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> > > --047d7b11198580a7c204f95d30e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

On further reflection= .

Unary events (including 'configurationChange') in Pr= inter MIB "prtAlertTable" are
indeed allowed to be (but = not required to be) "aged" out (delete oldest unary

event first, is the typical implementation).=C2=A0 The algorithm= used is implementation
defined.=C2=A0 The same would be true for the IP= P mapping of "prtAlertTable" rows.

See the disc= ussion of configuration change and other unary events in section
2.2.13.4 Alert Table Management on pages 22-23 of RFC 3805.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician= / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Op= en Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair -= IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IP= P & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://si= tes.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http:/= /sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: bluero= ofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0= 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI= 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Ira Mc= Donald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

&= #39;configurationChange' has always been a one-time event - it was orig= inally derived

from the prtGeneralConfigChanges counter in Printer= MIB v1 and v2 (RFC 1759 and

RFC 3805).=C2=A0 It was defined as OPTIONAL event (not state) in IPP = Events Notifications
and Subscriptions (RFC 3995), named 'printer-c= onfig-changed'.

Some confusion may arise becaus= e PWG 5100.9 defines new values for the IPP
attribute "job-state-reasons" - these are NOT states - they are d= urable reasons that

"job-state" may have changed in= the past.=C2=A0 They must not be simply "aged" out of the

"job-state-reasons" attribute.=C2=A0 But, if they reflect a = binary event (e.g., coverOpen),

then they must be removed fro= m "job-state-reasons" when the condition clears.

I&#= 39;ll let Mike and Pete answer why it's listed as REQUIRED in IPP FaxOu= t and IPP Scan.

That doesn't sound right to me, based on RFC 3995.

C= heers,

- Ira

<= div>

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Cha= ir - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
= IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High No= rth Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic=
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: bluero= ofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0= 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434
<= br>

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4 teaspoons taco seasoning mix

1 cup salsa

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This is why your last form control (textarea) is editable; it is overflowing all other fields. Twitter Bootstrap grid columns (elements with col-nn-[1-11] class) are supposed to be wrapped in row class, in order to "contain" the floating. In your HTML you did not wrap your input pairs in row class. When I first implemented the UITabBar I could see all the icons at the bottom of the UITabController in storyboard and I could see the UITabBarItem at the bottom of each UIViewController. Why is there now a blank grey bar? I can't seem to change the content either in storyboard. I tried adding another UITabBarController but got the same problem, it also has a dark grey bar at the bottom. However when I run the app all the icons appear. How do I fix this so I can see the UITabBarItems in storyboard or should I just try updating them programmatically instMy learning app requires displaying Korean, English and Chinese. One solution I have is to embed a Korean/English font and a Chinese font. Then put together a string with different TextFormats.The thing is, I'm positive that IOS and A ndroid devices should contain native Chinese, Korean and English fonts already, and I'd much rather refer to and use those fonts instead of packing them.I tried detecting fonts by using Font.enumerateFonts(true), but when I use font.hasGlyphs(''), I don't true, or anything, so I don't know how to choose the proper device font.@lukas: The technique can be tweaked; the point was more to show what needs to be done. The key points here are recursion and using max(), I'd say. Martijn Pieters May 6 at 15:49The default value of level should be 0 and not 1. A simple dict is returning 2 as depth which is not correct. Also for None and empty dicts, the depth should be 0 and not 1. Samy Arous May 6 at 16:4@SamyArous: That's all interpretation; what if the top-level dictionary is empty? Is that a depth of 0 or 1? The fact that the dictionary has got values could be seen as another level. Empty dictionary -> 1, dictionary with values -> 2 (the dictionary itself requires one level of referenc ing, the values another). Martijn Pieters May 6 at 16:42@SamyArous: You can get your interpretation by adjusting the start value of level to 0 and returning level for non-dictionary values, and level + 1 for empty dictionaries. But note that the OP did not specify how depth should be calculated, so we are all free to bring our own interpretation. Martijn Pieters May 6 at 16:43 +1 for tail-recursive solution. keithm May 6 at 21:10d = {}; d.update({'': d}); depth(d) Hammerite May 7 at 7:44@Hammerite: yup, that'll cause infinite recursion because it recurses infinitely. Add a memo set to skip id() values you've seen before. This is a simple example to illustrate the principle, edge cases can be accounted for with some additional code. Martijn Pieters May 7 at 7:46 @keithm I really think it's not tail-recursive at all. Cthulhu May 7 at 9:24 @keithm: indeed, this is not a tail-recursive solution; that'd require a return depth(...) last line instead of the current return max(dept) last line; tail recursive functions would allow the whole frame to be replaced by the next recursive call which is clearly not the case there. Martijn Pieters May 7 at 9:36 ah quite so. I missed the max() keithIf that doesn't work, is there a font that contains all of those Characters? 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That's clear enough. I don't know why that would be the case, but the rules are the rules. This also appears to be enforced by the fact that enums derive from Enum, and the API spec says that Enum has a final finalizer. An instance of an enum type may never be finalized. The language here seems ambiguous to me. Are they declaring that no instance of an enum type will ever be finalized? If so, why "may"? Why not just say so? Are they just reminding us that finalization isn't guaranteed to occur? Either way, it doesn't matter.Object's finalize method is defined to do nothing (12.6). Enum derives from Object, and enums derive from Enum. Enum's finalizer isn't defined to do anything, and you can't override it, so when you put it all together the finalization of an enum instance has no effects.In my interpretation, the enum instances can be garbage collected (although as others have pointed out the circumstances that allow this to happen are a bit unusual), and as their finalize method is defined not to do anything, whether or not the finalize method is ever called is a moot point. @MaxMommersteeg sometimes it is usefull and clear to not creates tens of voids for switch Brans Ds yesterday @MaxMommersteeg. It appears the OP is attempting to create a switch fall-thru which has to be done using the goto statement in C#. In C/C++ you don't need the goto for a fall-thru. 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Thanks edencore Apr 14 at 7:04 2 @edencore side note: you could probably use Roslyn to implement an exact "find all illegal field usage and warn about them" - the problem, though, is defining "illegal field usage" vs "legal field usage" Marc Gravell Apr 14 at 7:22 Another (equally ugly) approach would be to rename the field, for example private string textNoSanitationWhenWrittenToDontUseWeWillBreakYouegs;. Jeppe Stig Nielsen Apr 14 at 7:43 This is true, however it is just another allocation. If one more allocation on the class is going to break your heart you can make the class a struct and then you're back to a single allocation for Setter and the string reference text. 99% of the time, for 99% of the software folks write, the extra allocation matters less than keeping the intent of the code honest. We don't all suffer Assult by GC, few of us work with StackOverflow type volumes :p Binary Worrier Apr 14 at 9:56 . . with the obvious caveat that you'd need to implement the struct properly (i.e. as an immutable type), which means you're back to an allocation for every assignment . . . maybe don't make the class a struct. Binary Worrier Apr 14 at 10:17 creating a new struct each time is not an allocation; the size would be the size of the contained data, presumably a single string reference - so no larger than the original Marc Gravell Apr 14 at 10:36 So something like this.myDate = new DateTime(2014, 04, 14); doesn't cause an allocation? This I did not know. It looks like it does, the new to create a new struct, which would then be copied over the old. I may look into this and see how it actually works, thanks. Binary Worrier Apr 14 at @MarcGravell: indeed, there is one function set that is privileged since it is permitted to modify text and no other function is. One further function get is permitted to read but not write. That's the concept to be captured, but I don't know the state of the art in expressing that for static code analysis to enforce. Other than Binary Worrier's answer, of course, which expresses it neatly in language the compiler already understands. Steve Jessop Apr 14 at 9:39 @Marc: With the utmost respect (and you do indeed have my utmost respect mate), see my comment on this answer of an old duplicate of this question :) stackoverflow.com/a/1299268/18797 Binary Worrier Apr 14 at 10:13 1 @BinaryWorrier I followed that link hoping for an explanation rather than just "you should be shot"... Rawling Apr 14 at 11:15 @Rawling That's why it's funny Binary Worrier Apr 14 at 11:25 @BinaryWorrier somebody who is touching the internals of the same class is already implicitly inside the usual protection barriers... Marc Gravell Apr 14 at 11:36 Grand, but I still think this is a bad way to prevent the field from being accessed directly. The warning is only useful if 1) the dev checks the warnings 2) decides to heed the warning. I wouldn't use a hint to get you to do the right thing, when I can force you to do the right thing. If I thought every developer would look for and heed the warning, I'd probably trust them to look an inteli-sense comment. /// Use Text property, not this field would very nearly be as effective. I'd get the compiler to enforce this, not issue hints. My 2 cents. 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If one more allocation on the class is going to break your heart you can make the class a struct and then you're back to a single allocation for Setter and the string reference text. 99% of the time, for 99% of the software folks write, the extra allocation matters less than keeping the intent of the code honest. We don't all suffer Assult by GC, few of us work with StackOverflow type volumes :p Binary Worrier Apr 14 at 9:56 . . with the obvious caveat that you'd need to implement the struct properly (i.e. as an immutable type), which means you're back to an allocation for every assignment . . . maybe don't make the class a struct. Binary Worrier Apr 14 at 10:17 creating a new struct each time is not an allocation; the size would be the size of the contained data, presumably a single string reference - so no larger than the original Marc Gravell Apr 14 at 10:36 So something like this.myDate = new DateTime(2014, 04, 14); doesn't cause an allocation? This I did not know. It looks like it does, the new to create a new struct, which would then be copied over the old. I may look into this and see how it actually works, thanks. Binary Worrier Apr 14 atternal struct SanitizedText { private readonly string value; private SanitizedText(string value) { this.value = value; } public static implicit operator string (SanitizedText value) { return value.value; } public static implicit operator SanitizedText(string value) { if (value != null) value = value.Replace('a', 'b'); return new SanitizedText(value); } } and then simply: private SanitizedText text; public string Text { get { return text; } set { text = value; } } This does all the same validation, but it is impossible to abuse: you cannot create a SanitizedTextvalue that bypasses the validation; equally, it takes no more space (the size of the struct is the size of the contents: 1 reference), and requires no allocations. It even defaults to a null string in the same way. 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If one more allocation on the class is going to break your heart you can make the class a struct and then you're back to a single allocation for Setter and the string reference text. 99% of the time, for 99% of the software folks write, the extra allocation matters less than keeping the intent of the code honest. We don't all suffer Assult by GC, few of us work with StackOverflow type volumes :p Binary Worrier Apr 14 at 9:56 . . with the obvious caveat that you'd need to implement the struct properly (i.e. as an immutable type), which means you're back to an allocation for every assignment . . . maybe don't make the class a struct. Binary Worrier Apr 14 at 10:17 creating a new struct each time is not an allocation; the size would be the size of the contained data, presumably a single string reference - so no larger than the original Marc Gravell Apr 14 at 10:36 So something like this.myDate = new DateTime(2014, 04, 14); doesn't cause an allocation? This I did not know. It looks like it does, the new to create a new struct, which would then be copied over the old. I may look into this and see how it actually works, thanks. Binary Worrier Apr 14 atternal struct SanitizedText { private readonly string value; private SanitizedText(string value) { this.value = value; } public static implicit operator string (SanitizedText value) { return value.value; } public static implicit operator SanitizedText(string value) { if (value != null) value = value.Replace('a', 'b'); return new SanitizedText(value); } } and then simply: private SanitizedText text; public string Text { get { return text; } set { text = value; } } This does all the same validation, but it is impossible to abuse: you cannot create a SanitizedTextvalue that bypasses the validation; equally, it takes no more space (the size of the struct is the size of the contents: 1 reference), and requires no allocations. It even defaults to a null string in the same way. 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Or, is there a better way to use the Program Options library to achieve this? c++ boost boost-program-options share|improve this question edited Apr 20 at 11:38 asked Apr 20 at 4:17 Darren Cook 5,10021252 add comment This question has an open bounty worth +100 reputation from Darren Cook ending in 3 days. This question has not received enough attention. 2 Answers activeoldestvotes up vote 4 down vote Perhaps you should use Boost property_tree instead of program_options, as your file format appears to be very similar to the Windows INI file format. Boost property_tree has a parser for INI files (and a serializer in case you need that, too). Processing your options would then be implemented by traversing the tree. Options not in a section will be under the tree root, and section options will be under a node for that section. You can use program_options if you really want to. The key is to pass true for the final argument to parse_config_file, which is allow_unregistered_options: #include #include #include static const std::string fileData = // sample input "foo=1\n" "[bar]\n" "foo=a distinct foo\n" "[/etc]\n" "baz=all\n" "baz=multiple\n" "baz=values\n" "a.baz=appear\n"; int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { namespace po = boost::program_options; std::istringstream is(fileData); po::parsed_options parsedOptions = po::parse_config_file( is, po::options_description(), true); // <== allow unregistered options // Print out results. for (const auto& option : parsedOptions.options) { std::cout << option.string_key << ':'; // Option value is a vector of strings. for (const auto& value : option.value) std::cout << ' ' << value; std::cout << '\n'; } return 0; } This outputs: ./po foo: 1 bar.foo: a distinct foo /etc.baz: all /etc.baz: multiple /etc.baz: values /etc.baz: appear However, note that what you get with this approach is a vector of options and not the map that the typical use of program_options produces. So you may end up processing the parsed_options container into something you can query more easily, and that something may look like a property_tree. I want the background of my QT5 based GUI to be a video file that is playing. I also want to be able to style my GUI components with transparency so that the video will show through them. I am not sure if this is at all possible to accomplish. It could be that i've just missed an important clue (I am after all a Qt beginner), or it could be that it just simply was not meant to work. But being an optimist, I have given it my best try. First attempt My minimal first attempt looked like this: int main( int argc, char **argv ){ QApplication app(argc, argv); QMediaPlayer *media=new QMediaPlayer(0); QVideoWidget *video=new QVideoWidget(0); //new QGLWidget() media->setVideoOutput(video); media->setMedia(QUrl::fromLocalFile("/tmp/avatar.mp4")); media->setPosition(3000000); media->play(); QPushButton *pb=new QPushButton(video); pb->setText(QString("BOB")); //pb->setStyleSheet(QString("background:transparent;")); video->show(); return app.exec(); } The button is on top of the playing video, which is good. But if you look closely, you will see some black pixels in the corners of the button indicating that it is not transparent over the video, but rendered as an opaque rectangle. First result screenshot Second attempt I tried styling the button with background:transparent; (see commented line in code above). This made the background of the button transparent, but the black box behind the button is now even more evident. enter image description here Other attempts I have read several tips from various sources on-line on how to do this. None have worked for me. I have tried working with QGraphicsScene and friends, different stacks of layouts, different attributes on the widgets in question and many more. My last attempt was to set the parent of the QVideoWidget to an instance of QGLWidget() in the hope that forced hardware acceleration would solve my problems (my computer has hardware 3d acceleration with binary driver). This simply stopped the window from appearing at all, while I could still hear the soundtrack of the video playing in the background indicating that the application was still running. Request I really hope that there are some kindhearted and smart QT5 developers out there that can help me fulfill my dream of having widgets placed atop of a playing video in QT5 on Ubuntu. When I try executing the audioOutputExample shipped with openFrameworks, I get RtApiAlsa::getDeviceIno: snd_pcm_open error for device (hw:0,0), Device or resource busy. RtApiAlsa::probeDeviceOpen: pcm device (hw:0,0) won't open for output. RtApi:: a stream is not open Process returned 0 (0x0) execution time : 3.462 s Press ENTER to continue. when Rhythmbox is playing Rhythmbox has played recently (under ~5 seconds ago) Firefox has a tab with Grooveshark, either playing a tune or on pause The Groovshark tab has been recently closed (under ~5 seconds ago) Firefox has a tab with a Youtube Video, either playing or on pause The Youtube tab has been recently closed (under ~5 seconds ago) Otherwise, the example works fine, even if I've used Rhythmbox, Grooveshark or Youtube before. How can I solve this conflict to allow simultaneous use of audioOutputExample and, say, Rythmbox. P.S. I am on Ubuntu 11.04, using openFrameworks_v0062_linux64_FAt... c++ audio concurrency openframeworks share|improve this question edited 2 days ago Peter Ritchie 17.6k42449 asked Jun 19 '11 at 6:25 Shawn 1,34531649 I have the same problem, even that no other application (at least that I know of) is running. Somehow the sound card is occupied and OF cannot access the audio stream via alsa. In my case it outputs: RtApiAlsa::getDeviceIno: snd_pcm_open error for device (hw:1,0), Device or resource busy. and RtApiAlsa::probeDeviceOpen: pcm device (hw:0,3) won't open for output. cuichi 2 days ago add comment This question has an open bounty worth +50 reputation from cuichi ending in 5 days. The current answers do not contain enough detail. 2 Answers activeoldestvotes up vote 0 down vote accepted I found a solution. The problem was, that I have two internal sound devices registered - HDMI and PCH. The HDMI device was always assigned to be card0, which can be checked by typing aplay -l into the terminal. This will list the different devices. I then changed my alsa configuration using gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and adding at the end options snd-hda-intel index=-2 thereby forcing the HDMI to be assigned to card1 and the other device to card0. Another option there is to put options snd-hda-intel id=PCH,HDMI index=0,1 assigning the card index. However, I read here HDMI,PCH that this did not work for everybody. Note the details of this method depend on the devices that you have in your computer. Find those known to alsa by typing aplay -l. 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Thu, 15 May 2014 08:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.114.58.71] by cilantro.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.30.0 64bit (built Oct 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N5M003AMFAYQ050@cilantro.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Thu, 15 May 2014 08:06:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: <429b3805e44f4a97bd7667fd21ec424a@DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 08:06:33 -0700 Message-id: <6DACBF58-B461-4A3E-85C6-E1847F32DB0E@apple.com> References: <429b3805e44f4a97bd7667fd21ec424a@DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> To: Soma Meiyappan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrLLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON3OUPf39ZJgg3nf1S2O7XvJ4sDoMW/x dKYAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujNud21kK3gpWHFt8k62B8QVfFyMnh4SAicT7zTOYIWwxiQv3 1rN1MXJxCAnMYpJo+dDPBpLgFRCU+DH5HksXIwcHs4C8xMHzsiBhZgEtie+PWlkg6iczSSz4 fZwFZuiOKaegBk1kkjj0YSEThPOFUWLe2/Vg64QFoiW2XtvLDmKzCahJ/J7UxwqygVMgQmLa VE+QMIuAqkT7gj8sENsUJZZN/8MKcZCNxO2ZMxhBbCGBcInO1WvAbBEBA4mGh+eZII6QlXj0 oQnsOgmB96wS3/6tZ5zAKDILyUOzEB6aheShBYzMqxiFchMzc3Qz88z1EgsKclL1kvNzNzFC wltsB+PDVVaHGAU4GJV4eBkmFwcLsSaWFVfmHmKU5mBREuf9EVYSLCSQnliSmp2aWpBaFF9U mpNafIiRiYNTqoEx+nxi3+7vmod22fWuv3Zw88JbupM3dKU9tVyZEPSxb51M1hy+z2eEZdlr y258T3/3ru3GNM2clZ7SP+p1JzyROrBiyf1gjoBkz/zpYvqGxbsjk98fZZcK2PUuXWm13plb H94aTLmfEvEw4sWlBQcW/NecWf5g9W4T5b83frX+sfV+x7tyis4kViWW4oxEQy3mouJEAIh5 8SxQAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrKLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FAspPvhekmwwaoLhhbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxq6/dxgL9glVPJjdy9zAOJG/i5GTQ0LARGLHlFNsELaYxIV7 64FsLg4hgYlMEn8/PWWFcL4wSsx7u54ZpEpYIFpi67W97CA2r4CexJmzv8BsZgEtifU7jzOB 2GwCahK/J/UBNXNwcApESEyb6gkSZhFQlWhf8IcFolxRYtn0P6wQtrbEk3cXWCFG2kjcnjmD EcQWEgiX6Fy9BswWETCQaHh4ngniUFmJRx+aWCYwCsxCcsUsJFfMQjJ2ASPzKkaBotScxEpz vcSCgpxUveT83E2M4MArTN3B2Ljc6hCjAAejEg9vxNTiYCHWxLLiytxDjBIczEoivMlXSoKF eFMSK6tSi/Lji0pzUosPMUpzsCiJ83bbAFULpCeWpGanphakFsFkmTg4pYAhzKtwLelTZK1G b0NAuFDk8YK5b3/eLrRWcXdg3ydXW2c65aNjOKNp4+GlbouYO/62e7JyMjxvMj+bf/uU1Dmm ZwpbXvsz/fsgJBOQeItd6Bbjo79Tp66bFbX0y+QzbFqrdy3VsLt4Tm3rtft73lYW6rYn2k22 PVouv+3jzeedq4v+eRl3r/iqxFKckWioxVxUnAgA/JJ5OzgCAAA= Cc: "" Subject: Re: [IPP] printer-alert in PWG 5100.9 & its relevance in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Soma, The "printer-alert" attribute mirrors the corresponding Printer MIB properties and provides a detailed reporting of current state and configuration changes for the printer. There is a discussion of how to handle configuration changes specifically in section 2.2.13.4 of Printer MIB v2 (RFC 3805) - see: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3805#section-2.2.13.4 Ultimately, "printer-alert" reports the current state and a (short) history of unary events such as configuration changes. We require this attribute because having a way to monitor the health/condition of a printer is important and SNMP over UDP is unreliable or unavailable on many networks. This is discussed at some length in PWG 5100.9. Since most printers already implement the Printer MIB and but do not implement IPP Notifications, requiring "printer-alert" is a relatively small thing to ask implementors to do. "printer-alert" is also required for IPP Everywhere, which is our current "baseline" for minimum IPP implementation requirements for all services. The ultimate goal is to be able to use and manage any printer via IPP, with a guaranteed minimum level of functionality (and thus interoperability). On May 13, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Soma Meiyappan wrote: > Hello, > > PWG 5100.9 allows an alert code(PrtAlertCodeTC) 'configurationChange' for printer-alert. This value sounds like it is defined to be an event rather than a state. > > If you think that it is a 'state' rather than an 'event', can you please explain how? If it should be treated as a 'state', then should devices initiate a self-determined-timeout value to come out of that 'state' (this sounds like a method to morph an event into a state)? > > If it is indeed an 'event', then please explain why this attribute (printer-alert) is part of the REQUIRED table in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan specifications when the IPP operations for event subscription themselves are optional. > > Thanks and Regards, > Somasundaram. > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From MartinLong@monument-ng.ofsos.com Thu May 15 08:46:15 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842571A02A0 for ; Thu, 15 May 2014 08:46:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.953 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.953 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QfkOApYa_xHo for ; Thu, 15 May 2014 08:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monument-ng.ofsos.com (monument-ng.ofsos.com [46.30.150.103]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AE01A00BE for ; Thu, 15 May 2014 08:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Shocking PSA Video - Updated 5/15 From: Vision Screening PSA Message-ID: <20140515033451.18365.7659.223565.6263@Martin.ofsos.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 08:46:01 -0700 To: Healthy Vision PSA - Restore 20/20 Vision in 2 weeks Healthy Vision Journal Posted - With changes in the US healthcare system many are not able to afford optic healthcare. 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It behaves in the same way as a built-in type does. However, it does not inherit from other classes, nor does it serve as the base for other derived classes. If you search about it in wiki you would see "An abstract data type is defined as a mathematical model of the data objects that make up a data type as well as the functions that operate on these objects. There are no standard conventions for defining them. A broad division may be drawn between "imperative" and "functional" definition styles." For example, in Java we have List interface. It defines a data structure with set of method to operate on but wont provide any implementaion as such. In contrast, an abstract class is anything but an abstract data type. An abstract class is a class that is declared abstract 'it may or may not include abstract methods'. Abstract classes cannot be instantiated, but they can be subclassed. It is not a data type. An abstract class is merely a skeletal interface, which specifies a set of services that its subclasses implement. Unfortunately, the distinction between the two concepts is often confused. Many people erroneously use the term abstract data type when they actually refer to an abstract class. In my opinion Interfaces are Java's way of implementing "Abstract Data type"Java interface is a type, which boils down to a set of method signatures. Any type, willing to be referenced as interface must provide implementation for these signatures. In reality, there is no behaviour contract. Your implementation can do nothing and still be 'implementing' an interface. Java abstract class is a type, with partially specified behaviour whose internal implementation for some reason must be specified in his inheritor. This class does have behaviour, which can be redefined/specified in his inheritors. ADT is a set of expected behaviours. You assume, that after calling adt.remove(element) you call adt.get(element) and receive null. The answer to your question is: just an interface is not enough to be an ADT. Everything, that correctly implements your interface MyListADT is an ADT. Its external behaviour must conform the ADT concept. This means, that to be considered as ADT, your type must carry implementation, which results either in abstract class or a normal class. For example: java.util.List is an interface for an ADT, but java.util.ArrayList and java.util.LinkedList are actually ADTs, because their actual behaviour does conform the ADT concept. From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu May 15 16:04:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CCC1A01D7 for ; Thu, 15 May 2014 16:04:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.929 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.929 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id diaAVdDF-sAQ for ; Thu, 15 May 2014 16:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FCF1A019C for ; Thu, 15 May 2014 16:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5FF833A; Thu, 15 May 2014 23:04:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from exprod8og102.obsmtp.com (exprod8og102.obsmtp.com [64.18.3.84]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 562538339 for ; Thu, 15 May 2014 23:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172]) (using TLSv1) by exprod8ob102.postini.com ([64.18.7.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKU3VH/UqC1foEN/OjLRf6VwnhCZh+YXO7@postini.com; Thu, 15 May 2014 16:04:30 PDT Received: by mail-qc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id l6so3044915qcy.3 for ; Thu, 15 May 2014 16:04:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qHTDfIW1AAzw4H0DTdr2pdCajIwNBqDf7id7ohQczXs=; b=EDsqMUoFJ2iUITv2tarSrL5NMRGPmCHBjGvLaN2hQ+G0Qgz5xJmofwYPqg122zT73R HZlH1GHCgK5mDwJ0nhooxqrPF5aWwJ/T6jb7NRZMzNDyQkSJJJgxcAYist6QytHjL2Gm 0YKk9k7LfnnEdQrM5c+Ayuze0WgptWPtwfNx+UlMt8Eper7Q2ycXDmHZYonDZLX+DAfa lgCCikMq/T/OMYToVPDtHfc0G5ymuKeFemzDyRSbLtNTtaGLyC8qVnWOpUzROH2Zrzil Fo65pl78c5iS4+jx0s6jQqNthju27/+jHiAYaQOMSMmpsSYhs4t3f0VzOdmlvDQKbxD3 4NLA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmZ2YYftZbSi573Y5xb3StwIYhnQPBudLTZSxFawGEEwVeaiSr3bWTyEzolT9bHb5KoSeNELSjWae/J8Jz1tnh/AYjKPK5rXA3ynW0W2JGBAhaBoFYVBvLv2SxLkVVb70X4hztH X-Received: by 10.229.65.138 with SMTP id j10mr20374250qci.10.1400195069173; Thu, 15 May 2014 16:04:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.65.138 with SMTP id j10mr20374242qci.10.1400195069086; Thu, 15 May 2014 16:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.97.182 with HTTP; Thu, 15 May 2014 16:04:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <24CA650F-C492-4B48-B3B9-0AB09151EBF4@apple.com> References: <24CA650F-C492-4B48-B3B9-0AB09151EBF4@apple.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 19:04:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jeremy Leber To: Michael Sweet Cc: "" Subject: Re: [IPP] Stable draft of IPP FaxOut Service (errata) posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0830919563==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0830919563== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11339810b5a9bb04f97851ec --001a11339810b5a9bb04f97851ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Michael, Section 4.1.3 (Job Terminating State) refers to the "destination-state" member attribute of "destination-statuses" (on line 366). Should "destination state" actually be "transmission-status"? Thanks, Jeremy Jeremy Leber Lexmark International, Inc. 859-825-4505 jlleber@lexmark.com On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > All, > > I have posted the stable draft of the IPP FaxOut Service errata to: > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20140509.docx > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20140509.pdf > > The PDF is the rev version. I will be posting a PWG Call for Objections > on this errata shortly. > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > --001a11339810b5a9bb04f97851ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Michael,

Section 4.1.3 (Job Terminat= ing State) refers to the "destination-state" member attribute of = "destination-statuses" (on line 366). =C2=A0Should "destinat= ion state" actually be "transmission-status"?

Thanks,

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Jeremy Leber

Lexmark International, Inc.

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jlleber@lexma= rk.com

On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Michael Sweet &l= t;msweet@apple.com> wrote:

All,

I have posted the stable draft of the IPP FaxOut Service errata to:

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp= /wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20140509.pdf

The PDF is the rev version. =C2=A0I will be posting a PWG Call for Objectio= ns on this errata shortly.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

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The plans are that boundary of the expanded corporation will be drawn in 2011, after the term of the elected councillors ends.^ The State government will decide on the expansion of the Chennai Metropolitan Area (CMA) before the end of this fiscal, R Vaithilingam, Minister for Housing and Urban Development, told the Assembly on 25 August 2011. In view of the fastpaced development taking place in areas beyond the present metropolitan area jurisdiction, like Sriperumbudur, Kelambakkam, Tiruvallur and Maraimalai Nagar, it had become necessary to review the Chennai Metropolitan Planning Area that was notified in 197374, he said. References^ "Who's Who". About Corporation of Chennai. Corporation of Chennai. . Retrieved 10 September 2012.^ "Commissioner of Police". Government of Tamil Nadu. . Retrieved 10 September 2012.^ a b c "Tamil Nadu district wise population" (PDF). Census of Tamil Nadu. . Retrieved 5 April 2011.^ "Urban Agglomerations/Cities having population 1 lakh and above" (PDF). 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Claim package here >> http://www.wovenen.com/nation/eCig/incentive/package.html _Urgent Info Reports_ to modify message status w/ (Urgent Info Services) write - 3205 Lake Sarah Independence, MN 55359 -- http://www.wovenen.com/sj3or/bjmo45.gjnvo4 show to user When data is stored on disk based storage devices, it is stored as blocks of data. These blocks are accessed in their entirety, making them the atomic disk access operation. Disk blocks are structured in much the same way as linked lists; both contain a section for data, a pointer to the location of the next node (or block), and both need not be stored contiguously. Due to the fact that a number of records can only be sorted on one field, we can state that searching on a field that isnt sorted requires a Linear Search which requires N/2 block accesses (on average), where N is the number of blocks that the table spans. If that field is a non-key field (i.e. doesnt contain unique entries) then the entire table space must be searched at N block accesses. Whereas with a sorted field, a Binary Search may be used, this has log2 N block accesses. Also since the data is sorted given a non-key field, the rest of the table doesnt need to be searched for duplicate values, once a higher value is found. Thus the performance increase is substantial. What is indexing? Indexing is a way of sorting a number of records on multiple fields. Creating an index on a field in a table creates another data structure which holds the field value, and pointer to the record it relates to. This index structure is then sorted, allowing Binary Searches to be performed on it. The downside to indexing is that these indexes require additional space on the disk, since the indexes are stored together in a table using the MyISAM engine, this file can quickly reach the size limits of the underlying file system if many fields within the same table are indexed.Given our sample database of r = 5,000,000 records of a fixed size giving a record length of R = 204 bytes and they are stored in a table using the MyISAM engine which is using the default block size B = 1,024 bytes. The blocking factor of the table would be bfr = (B/R) = 1024/204 = 5 records per disk block. The total number of blocks required to hold the table is N = (r/bfr) = 5000000/5 = 1,000,000 blocks. A linear search on the id field would require an average of N/2 = 500,000 block accesses to find a value given that the id field is a key field. But since the id field is also sorted a binary search can be conducted requiring an average of log2 1000000 = 19.93 = 20 block accesses. Instantly we can see this is a drastic improvement. Now the firstName field is neither sorted, so a binary search is impossible, nor are the values unique, and thus the table will require searching to the end for an exact N = 1,000,000 block accesses. It is this situation that indexing aims to correct. Awesom explanation I have one important question. If I have a non-unique field that is not sorted, and if the cardinality of the field is 2, would the index table of this field have just 2 rows? If yes, would there be multiple pointers for each of these 2 rows pointing to all the rows that have this value? If no, would the index table have as many rows as there are for this field in the original table? Abhishek Shivkumar Aug 4 '12 at 10:42 2 @CHAPa: He has already explained it but since you didn't get it yet here is a detailed explanation. Example: Worst Case: Total records=20 & I'm searching 20th element. In Linear search no. of comparisons=N. But there can also be other cases, like say you are searching for 4th element, so that will take only 4 comparisons Best Case: finding 1st element, bingo you get it right at the first shot To compare algorithms you cannot assume best case/worst case,you need average case. Avg case is element you want is sitting in the middle-how many comparisons would you make to reach the middle? N/2. Saurabh Patil Jul 8 '13 at 4:02 1 @AbhishekShivkumar:Great questionI think the index table will have as many rows as there are in the data table. And as this field will have only 2 values(boolean with true/false) & say you want a record with value true,then you can only halve the result set in first pass, in second pass all your records have value true so there is no basis to differentiate,now you have to search the data table in linear fashion-hence he said cardinality should be considered while deciding the indexed column. In this case,it's worthless to index on such a column. Hope I'm corr Given that an index record contains only the indexed field and a pointer to the original record, it stands to reason that it will be smaller than the multi-field record that it points to. So the index itself requires fewer disk blocks that the original table, which therefore requires fewer block accesses to iterate through. The schema for an index on the firstName field is outlined below;Given that creating an index requires additional disk space (277,778 blocks extra from the above example), and that too many indexes can cause issues arising from the file systems size limits, careful thought must be used to select the correct fields to index. Since indexes are only used to speed up the searching for a matching field within the records, it stands to reason that indexing fields used only for output would be simply a waste of disk space and processing time when doing an insert or delete operation, and thus should be avoided. Also given the nature of a binary search, the cardinality or uniqueness of the data is important. Indexing on a field with a cardinality of 2 would split the data in half, whereas a cardinality of 1,000 would return approximately 1,000 records. With such a low cardinality the effectiveness is reduced to a linear sort, and the query optimizer will avoid using the index if the cardinality is less than 30% of the record number, effectively making the index a waste of space.works fine with Informix and, I would expect, all the DBMS. (Once upon 5 or more years ago, this is the sort of thing that MySQL did not always support; it now has decent support for this sort of standard SQL syntax and, AFAIK, it would w ork OK on this notation.) The column list is optional but indicates the target columns in sequence, so the first column of the result of the SELECT will go into the first listed column, etc. In the absence of the column list, the first column of the result of the SELECT goes into the first column of the target table. 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Whether your table for customers is called Customers or Customer is less important than that you do it the same way throughout the same database. And you can flip a coin to determine how to use underscores, but then you must keep using them the same way. If you don't do this, you are a bad person who should have low self-esteem. (2) What you should probably do. "Fields representing the same kind of data on different tables should be named the same. Don't have Zip on one table and ZipCode on another." Yes yes a million times yes. Can you tell our database was not designed that way? A personid might be refered to in any of a dozen different ways, very annoying to maintain. I've always kept to this rule in any database I had control over designing and it makes life much simpler. HLGEM Mar 26 '10 at 14:09 13 I think the primary key should just be "ID". Such a simple convention makes the primary key predictable and quickly identifiable. I would, however, prepend the table name ("PersonID") when its used as a foreign key in other tables. This convention could help distinguish between a primary key and foreign keys in the same table. Triynko Apr 1 '10 at 21:00 14 @Tryinko Using ID all over the place is LIVING HELL for anyone doing joins of multiple tables. There's no possible way that the slight advantage of knowing this is the PK outweighs the incredible annoyance of re-aliasing the dang ID column in every bloody query over and over again. If you want a way to denote PK in a table, make it the first column. Also, denoting FKs in the names of columns is in my mind another solidly evil anti-pattern. ErikE Jun 20 '11 at 20:03 1 @Triynko if you use just "ID", it also become programatically impossible to determine the table it belongs to. With the table name prefix, you can simply cut off the last two digits of a primary key and know the table name it belongs to via code. A lot of times IT and DBA people don't realize that there are coding advantages for programmers in designing databases in certain way Fields representing the same kind of data on different tables should be named the same. Don't have Zip on one table and ZipCode on another. To separate words in your table or column names, use PascalCasing. Using camelCasing would not be intrinsically problematic, but that's not the convention and it would look funny. I'll address underscores in a moment. (You may not use ALLCAPS as in the olden dayskay in DB2 20 years ago, but not now.) Don't artifically shorten or abbreviate words. It is better for a name to be long and clear than short and confusing. Ultra-short names is a holdover from darker, more savage times. Cus_AddRef. What on earth is that? Custodial Addressee Reference? Customer Additional Refund? Custom Address Referral? (3) What you should consider. I really think you should have plural names for tables; some think singular. Read the arguments elsewhere. Column names should be singular however. Even if you use plural table names, tables that represent combinations of other tables might be in the singular. For example, if you have a Promotions and an Items table, a table representing an item being a part of a promotion could be Promotions_Items, but it could also legitimately be Promotion_Items I think (reflecting the one-to-many relationship). Use underscores consistently and for a particular purpose. Just general tables names should be clear enough with PascalCasing; you don't need underscores to separate words. Save underscores either (a) to indicate an associative table or (b) for prefixing, which I'll address in the next bullet. Prefixing is neither good or bad. It usually is not best. In your first db or two, I would not suggest using prefixes for general thematic grouping of tables. Tables end up not fitting your categories easily, and it can actually make it harder to find tables. With experience, you can plan and apply a prefixing scheme that does more good than harm. I worked in a db once where data tables began with tbl, config tables with ctbl, views with vew, proc's sp, and udf's fn, and a few others; it was meticulously, consistently applied so it worked out okay. The only time you NEED prefixes is when you have really separate solutions that for some reason reside in the same db; prefixing them can be very helpful in grouping the tables. Prefixing is also okay for special situations, like for temporary tables that you want to stand out. 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For what kind of application should I chose which? Would be nice if someone could answer those questions. polemon Aug 18 '10 at 22:26 It really depends on how they will be used. The lack of transactions is troubling for many environments, yet perfectly fine for others. Also it is fundamentally difficult to "back up" a distributed database, although the argument is that data persistence is ensured through replication across multiple shards. Samuel O'Malley Oct 18 '13 at 5:20 2 Though this is an old question it's still very valid. For anyone ending up here like I did, you really should read the following blog post (about MongoDB) if DB reliability is a big concern: link. The author is a prof. at Cornell, which should give his analysis some credibility. Unrelated sidenote: this is one of the authors who published a paper on the 'selfish miner' attack regarding Bitcoin-mining. pauluss86 Jan 20 at 20:42 2 @pauluss86 I think you should probably add the disclaimer to pauluss86's link that the author (Emin) is actually from a competitor to MongoDB (Hyperdex) - so just a slight bias there. To be really fair, there's a corresponding response on InfoQ from MongoDB here@victorhooi true, but it remains a valid concern in my opinion. There's also a follow-up to the InfoQ response: link. Personally, I'm not too convinced by Mongo's defense. In any case, I recommend anyone to read up on the issue (both sides) before choosing a database. pauluss86 Feb 25 at 0:50 ur goals were: Easy replication from a master-db to several clients with different documents. Fast pre-calculated data like "how many parts do I have with this attribute and that filter, fitting to those conditions" facts: Our shops are now running much faster than with MySQL (and mysql-database needed additionaly 1-3 days of pre-calculating (so updating was twice a month), making the data ready for product counting and filtering, CouchDB needs 5 hours, so we could update product data every night) Setting up (filtered) data distribution & backups to the shop nodes is fast and easy but also: Understanding map/reduce and the limits of not having joins is quite hard No operation on data like "delete where" or "update where" without external programs Replication works well, unless there is a problem; then it's really hard to find out what was the reason (for beginners) The installation of CouchDB without binaries (yes there are a some in the wild, but not for every OS/version) could be hard, if you are not a Linux geek. 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Nick Feb 3 '12 at 15:04 @Thecrocodilehunter Nullable column means that you can insert Null for the columns value. If it's not a nullable column, you have to insert some value of that data type. So, for existing records, Null will be inserted in them and in new records, your default value will be inserted unless otherwise specified. Make sense? Yatrix Feb 29 '12 at 16:42 I like this answer a little better than dbugger's because it explicitly names the default constraint. A default constraint is still created using dbugger's syntax, except its name is auto-generated. Knowing the exact name is handy when writing DROP-CREATE s cripts. Walter Stabosz Mar 23 '12 at 12:43This is not correct. If you specify a default value using the DEFAULT constraint, it will be used as value for existing rows, at least in SQL Server 2008 Vertigo Jun 18 '12 at 11:04 @Vertigo That is ONLY true if the column is NOT NULL. Please try this: create table blah(a int not null primary key clustered); insert blah values (1), (2); alter table blah add b int null constraint df_blah_b default (0); select from blah; You will see 2 NULL values for column b. ErikE Jun 14 '13 at 22:19 Alter the column to NOT NULL with a DEFAULT value. Then, with a second query, make the column nullable. Problem solved. 1st query adds your default values. 2nd allows allows nulls in the future. Buttle Butkus Mar 26 at 20:20 outdated. That should be enough to know ;) It is not actively maintained anymore (and such) KingCrunch Oct 12 '12 at 13:20 Bondye Oct 12 '12 at 13:58SDC: Please, don't use mysql_functions to write new code. They are no longer maintained and the community has begun deprecation process. See the red box? Instead you should learn about prepared statements and use either PDO or MySQLi. If you can't decide which, this article will help you. If you pick PDO, here is good tutorial. Also see Why shouldn't I use mysql functions in PHP? Second Rikudo Oct 22 '12 at 18:11As of yesterday, the PHP dev team have now voted in favour of formally deprecating the mysql exension in PHP 5.This makes it more important to educate users not to use it. It may also be good to modify the answers here and/or the "standard comment message" we give to reflect this. SDC Dec 10 '12 at 14:57@Calmarius: It's not using mysql itself that's faulty. I can write perfectly secure and robust code with mysql_too. The problem is that it promotes bad code. Newbies just use it without actually learning the precautions. And since it's deprecated now, we're better off without it for good. Second Rikudo Jul 11 '13 at 9:43@MadaraUchiha The same newb@Calmarius: That's right. But the problem with mysqlis that most of the tutorials don't explain the gotchas, while most mysqli and PDO tutorials do. Second Rikudo Jul 11 '13 at 12:34 Deprecated alone is reason enough to avoid them. They will not be there one day, and you will not be happy if you rely on them. The rest is just a list of things that using the old extensions has kept people from learning. Tim Post Oct 12 '12 at 13:26 21 Deprecation isn't the magic bullet everyone seems to think it is. PHP itself will not be there one day, yet we rely on the tools we have at our disposal today. When we have to change tools, we will. Lightness Races in Orbit Dec 24 '12 at 14:29 25 @LightnessRacesinOrbit Deprecation isn't a magic bullet, it is a flag that says "We recognise this sucks so we aren't going to support it for much longer". While having better future proofing of code is a good reason to move away from the deprecated features, it isn't the only one (or even the main one). Change tools because there are better tools, not because you are forced to. (And changing tools before you are forced to means that you aren't learning the new ones just because your code has stopped working and needs fixing yesterday which is the worst time to learn new tools). Quentin Dec 24 '12 at 17:43 2@Quentin: Also correct :D Lightness Races in Orbit Dec 26 '12 at 21:17 17 Lacking an OO interface is a non-argument in this discussion.Moving away from ext/mysql is not only about security, but also about having access to all the features of the MySQL databat/mysql was built for MySQL 3.23 and only got very few additions since then while mostly keeping compatibility with this old version which makes the code a bit harder to maintain. Missing features that is not supported by ext/mysql include:(from PHP manual)Stored procedures (can't handle multiple result sets) Prepared statements Encryption (SSL) Compression Full Charset support Reason to not use MySql_* function Not under active development In deprecation process (so the intention is to remove it from a future version of PHP) Lacks an OO interface Doesn't support non-blocking, asynchronous queries Doesn't support prepared statements or parametrized queries Doesn't support stored procedures Doesn't support multiple statements Doesn't support transactions Doesn't support all of the functionality in MySQL 5.1 Above point quoted from Quentin's answer Lack of support for prepared statements is particularly important as they provide a clearer, less error prone method of escaping and quoting external data than manually escaping it with a separate function call. 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It seems like its going in the direction of plural table names especially since all the system tables in SQL Server are all plural, and the default for Entity Framework is plural out of the box. If that's Microsoft's stance, I want to go the direction where we will be in 20 years. Even Oracle's database conventions say plural table names. Just think how many c# developers hated the "var" keyword when it was introduced, now its the widely accepted way to define varir: In English, we don't say "Look at all the person out there in that crowd of person" Having a conceptual problem with things that are multiple being referred to by a singular word is to be expected. It's neither usual nor proper. "Data" is exceptional and often used to refer to a piece of a volume of substance, much like "cake". "Would you like (a piece of) cake?" Naming a table "People" because it contains information on multiple individuals makes far more sense than namin g it "Person". A data class named "Person" for the ROW makes sense, as do singular column names. Triynko Apr 1 '10 at 19:37 3 @Emtucifor: Ultimately all language is arbitrary and conventional. I was just arguing that conventionally we refer to a collection of items as the plural of the type of item therein. So a collection of rows where each row has information about a single person would be refferred to as a collection of People. But if you want to refer to it as a collection of Person, go right ahead. Triynko Apr 21 '10 at 17:02 @Emtucifor: Yes, lol. Naming the table "PersonCollection" would be equivalent to naming it "People". Contrast that with naming such a collection just "Person", which does not make sense :) Triynko Apr 22 '10 at 15:04 @Emtucifor: Then let's think of it from another angle to put the naming convention in a context. Suppose you have object classes for representing both the row and the table. "Person" obviously makes sense for the class that represents a row of data. If you're table was also named "Person", then you might have a naming conflict or some confusion. I just think that it makes more sense to name objects with accurate plurality. A row with data about a person should be called Person, and a table with information about people or multiple persons is called People, PersonCollection, Persons, etc. Triynko Apr 23 '10 at 16:15 3 @Josh M. Well, not either way you go. If you go with my way you can alias the People table as "person" and have SELECT person.Name. 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received-spf: None (: conexant.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com; MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: conexant.com Cc: "" Subject: Re: [IPP] printer-alert in PWG 5100.9 & its relevance in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Hi Mike, Thank you very much for the explanation. printer-alert is certainly semantically more descriptive than printer-state-reasons and has all the benefits that PWG 5100.9 explains. It is certainly very useful if all the RECOMMENDED/OPTIONAL alert objects in Table 5-3 of PWG 5100.9. Otherwise, prtAlertCode (which is the only REQUIRED alert object in printer-alert) is almost same as printer-state-reasons. As a part of this initiative to set the guaranteed minimum level of functionality, I would assume that most of the alert objects in Table 5-3 of PWG 5100.9 will actually be REQUIRED (where applicable depending upon the alert code) although PWG 5100.9 calls for only prtAlertCode to be REQUIRED. I was also concerned about potential inconsistencies in treatment of the unary events - both by clients and by servers. In the absence of IPP event subscription support in a product and if prtAlertTime remains OPTIONAL, there are certainly other IPP attributes (printer-config-change-xxx & printer-change-xxx) that seem like a useful alternative for communicating change events which can trigger further inquiry. These were the reasons why I was trying to find out why printer-alert is REQUIRED and not RECOMMENDED. Probably, I was just getting caught up over a minor technicality. In principle, I am able to appreciate that printer-alert is very useful simply from the perspective of it being richer than printer-state-reasons in describing the printer's state. I guess that when it comes to implementation, I can see your point that most printer OEMs will provide as much state/event information as possible if printer-alert is made REQUIRED although only prtAlertCode is the only REQUIRED alert object. Thanks again. Regards, Somasundaram. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:07 PM To: Soma Meiyappan Cc: Subject: Re: [IPP] printer-alert in PWG 5100.9 & its relevance in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan Soma, The "printer-alert" attribute mirrors the corresponding Printer MIB properties and provides a detailed reporting of current state and configuration changes for the printer. There is a discussion of how to handle configuration changes specifically in section 2.2.13.4 of Printer MIB v2 (RFC 3805) - see: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3805#section-2.2.13.4 Ultimately, "printer-alert" reports the current state and a (short) history of unary events such as configuration changes. We require this attribute because having a way to monitor the health/condition of a printer is important and SNMP over UDP is unreliable or unavailable on many networks. This is discussed at some length in PWG 5100.9. Since most printers already implement the Printer MIB and but do not implement IPP Notifications, requiring "printer-alert" is a relatively small thing to ask implementors to do. "printer-alert" is also required for IPP Everywhere, which is our current "baseline" for minimum IPP implementation requirements for all services. The ultimate goal is to be able to use and manage any printer via IPP, with a guaranteed minimum level of functionality (and thus interoperability). On May 13, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Soma Meiyappan wrote: > Hello, > > PWG 5100.9 allows an alert code(PrtAlertCodeTC) 'configurationChange' for printer-alert. This value sounds like it is defined to be an event rather than a state. > > If you think that it is a 'state' rather than an 'event', can you please explain how? If it should be treated as a 'state', then should devices initiate a self-determined-timeout value to come out of that 'state' (this sounds like a method to morph an event into a state)? > > If it is indeed an 'event', then please explain why this attribute (printer-alert) is part of the REQUIRED table in IPP FaxOut and IPP Scan specifications when the IPP operations for event subscription themselves are optional. > > Thanks and Regards, > Somasundaram. > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Sat May 17 09:45:37 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066B41A0129 for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 09:45:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.439 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.439 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EMNwnB6oNiDR for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 09:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B461A0110 for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 09:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08ED18570; Sat, 17 May 2014 16:45:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Delivered-To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Received: from mail-ig0-x230.google.com (mail-ig0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC2A7854D for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 16:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f176.google.com with SMTP id hl10so1938227igb.15 for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 09:45:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=UB8NDulxNo8UQgQH2FU8sOeBW8lZZATSHw7dWVraKVc=; b=E2RGx+jSpd/oxi+CltUblnBM2s1+Ni+hgFT1cWTy+iV1lremGjtFmWOwYSmeW93lUC hnFnyhMsiCzQ5HZ3EA3Au15kiOycwQ2mOK6fs1wylBGw6ZEkVBimxUamSF2Yd1T3Po8o QE1Va3x4CkVpHfINRFamsFcZGO01tYQ48W+S7KT3bnkzjIvRUCEarw34FZIgFNETjcea UKGVK9u5bx6YhnH4i4Co3z9cDJpioxqdQpENI3UCg3I5YXMb1QReUHxtt+2Q3fxHfwnl yHRplCh1WH7ytt9DBTZR4LJD7y10yJDQPJiTqr10I4rBoBjw1+zGoJqjBwTiIZ4LNYX4 3lgw== X-Received: by 10.43.140.144 with SMTP id ja16mr23875731icc.46.1400345128673; Sat, 17 May 2014 09:45:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.168.100 with HTTP; Sat, 17 May 2014 09:45:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Ira McDonald Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 12:45:08 -0400 Message-ID: To: "pwg-announce@pwg.org" , Ira McDonald Subject: [PWG-Announce] Posted PWG Plenary minutes (13 May 2014) X-BeenThere: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Printer Working Group announcement list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1195288439==" Sender: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org --===============1195288439== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1e8c0f5288d04f99b41f3 --001a11c1e8c0f5288d04f99b41f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, Minutes for this week's PWG Plenary are posted at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg-plenary-minutes-20140513.htm Cheers, - Ira (PWG Secretary) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --001a11c1e8c0f5288d04f99b41f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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We discussed this comment during the Thursday IPP WG session at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when looking at IPP Scan with Pete Zehler. The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue should be resolved on the IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the meeting: (1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes should remain REQUIRED (because they satisfy regulatory requirements for a Fax service). (2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to either RECOMMENDED (i.e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL. Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14), the attributes printer-config-change-date-time and printer-state-change-date-time attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conformance (see notes 2 and 3 below the table). Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time attribute should have the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to be an oversight in these specs. Please comment further on this thread, to clarify your thoughts. Cheers, - Ira (co-chair of IPP WG) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma Meiyappan < Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> wrote: > Hi Pete et al, > > > > I have a concern about > > > > printer-config-change-date-time > > printer-state-change-date-time > > > > These attributes figure in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The above > attributes require the scan device to have a notion of wall clock time > (whether it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To increase > the chances of making use of that effectively & correctly, all clients > would be required to use this somehow in reference to printer-current-time > and not to the wall-clock time that the client might know through other > sources. That makes me wonder if it is sufficient to have > printer-state-change-time and printer-config-change-time as required and > make xxxx-date-time as optional. > > > > I have a similar question on FaxOut; but at least on FaxOut, the devices > are expected to have a notion of wall-clock time although the point about > how clients should use that information with reference to > printer-current-time still seems applicable. > > > > Regards, > > Somasundaram. > > > > *From:* ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] *On Behalf Of *Zehler, > Peter > *Sent:* Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM > *To:* IPP@pwg.org > *Subject:* [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification > > > > All, > > This message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP Scan > Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent > discussions. > > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf > > > > Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine for > this) and it will be collected and processed as quickly as possible. > > Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the > August 2014 F2F. > > > > Peter Zehler > > Xerox Research Center Webster > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com > Voice: (585) 265-8755 > FAX: (585) 265-7441 > US Mail: Peter Zehler > Xerox Corp. > 800 Phillips Rd. > M/S 128-25E > Webster NY, 14580-9701 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > --001a11347bf2d4108204f9c2583b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Soma,

Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs.

We discussed this comment during the Thursday IPP WG session

at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when looking at IPP Scan with

Pete Zehler.

The IPP F2F minutes state that this= issue should be resolved on the
IPP mailing list, but there was unanim= ous consensus in the meeting:

(1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes should rem= ain REQUIRED

(because they satisfy regulatory requirements for a F= ax service).

(2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should = be changed to either

RECOMMENDED (i.e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL.

Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14), the attributes

printer-config-change-date-time and printer-state-change-date-time

attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conformance (see notes 2<= br>

and 3 below the table).

Obviousl= y, the underlying printer-date-time attribute should have

the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP
Everywhe= re, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan.=C2=A0 This appears to me to
be an oversigh= t in these specs.

Please comment further on this thread,= to clarify your thoughts.

Cheers,

- Ira (co-chair of IPP WG)

Ira McDonald (Mu= sician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions W= G
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
= IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High No= rth Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic=
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: bluero= ofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0= 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI= 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma M= eiyappan <Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Hi Pete et al,<= u>

=C2=A0

I have a concern about=

=C2=A0

printer-config-change-date-time

printer-state-change-date-time

=C2=A0

These attributes figur= e in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The above attributes require the sc= an device to have a notion of wall clock time (whether it is accurate or no= t to the global wall clock time). To increase the chances of making use of that effectively & correctly, al= l clients would be required to use this somehow in reference to printer-cur= rent-time and not to the wall-clock time that the client might know through= other sources. That makes me wonder if it is sufficient to have printer-state-change-time and printer-config-c= hange-time as required and make xxxx-date-time as optional.

=C2=A0

I have a similar quest= ion on FaxOut; but at least on FaxOut, the devices are expected to have a n= otion of wall-clock time although the point about how clients should use th= at information with reference to printer-current-time still seems applicable.

=C2=A0

Regards,=

Somasundaram.

=C2=A0

From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Zehler, Peter
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM
To: IPP@pwg.org=
Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification=

=C2=A0

All,

This message initiates the IPP Working Group last ca= ll of the IPP Scan Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent discus= sions.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ip= pscan10-20140509.pdf =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-= ippscan10-20140509.pdf =C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (re= ply-all works fine for this) and it will be collected and processed as quic= kly as possible.

Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the August 2014 F2F.

=C2=A0

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xe= rox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701

=C2=A0

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ipp mailing list
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A nice way in between is the usage of @PostConstruct, as it has clear semantics but does not introduce the dependency... Oliver Gierke Jul 7 '09 at 17:57 Oliver gives me some nice excuses, but really I'd just forgotten about the init-method :) One other reason is that the type itself knows that it needs to be "finished" after all the properties have been set - it isn't fundamentally something which should be in the configurationWhats the difference between having to change a line of code and a line of XML? The effort and maintenance hell is exactly the same, or even worse, since the external xml files arguably adds complexity? Sorry but I just dont get it, I dont see any benefit at all. Please fill me in if Im missing something. fred Dec 30 '11 at 5:57 @fred - defining all injection in XML indeed makes little sense. It's a massive overhead to maintain. Therefor EJB introduced the concept of annotations for injection points. Those are much simpler and a default instance will be injected (for unit tests this can be changed once). This worked so well that Spring has now copied this approach. Note that if needed (but only if really needed) annotations can still be overriden by XML in EJB. Mike Braun Jan 12 '12 at 18:45 1 @fred Also, in the real world it would be changing one line of XML vs. a bunch of lines of code. victor hugo May 24 '12 at 0:10 From KendraRobbins@flyun.vetdakvee.com Mon May 19 10:24:12 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD551A0387 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:24:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FUZZY_CPILL=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GsGIYDHLfAJo for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flyun.vetdakvee.com (flyun.vetdakvee.com [142.0.196.131]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA5E1A0388 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Samantha Subject: Go from blurry to clear vision... Message-ID: <8806ba29d5cff8b8c9da99d8cb9d43ea.7jd7.323.mail1@flyun.vetdakvee.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 10:24:01 -0700 Reply-to: X-Original-MessageID: To: Restore 20/20 Vision in 2 weeks Shocking Truth Revealed Health Journal Enlightens Readers how to Restore 20/20 Vision in 14 Days ========================================================================== Fortunately all hope is not lost. This is a permanent solution that is natural and effective. See Scientist Explanation: http://www.vetdakvee.com/Eyesight/PSA/Miracle/video.index - People suffering from myopia, hyperopia or presbyopia should also be wary of the various fraudulent vision correcting quick fixes out there, it is a fact that magic ingredient pills, supplements and potions have no real beneficial effects on vision problems and steering clear of all such products is the best decisions. -End PSA Announcement- ** Notice - This video has been released bc Optometrists are expected to lose patients once this info hits nationwide media. - Medical experts are admitting that glasses can Worsen your vision... http://www.vetdakvee.com/Eyesight/PSA/Miracle/video.index modify message settings - Alert System Notifications 1107 Valeria Dr. Marion, TX 78124 or http://www.vetdakvee.com/iw4ht/sngo4.dgj49 Unfortunately the journey to the completion of my dress wasn't so pleasant. There were no follow up calls about the dress arriving or when I needed to get it fitted; even after I told them multiple times that my date changed. Every time I came to make a payment it took 20 minutes to check out because of bickering employees or broken computer files. When I paid to have extra length added to my dress it arrived with no extra length. I had to take back my original shoe choice for a shorter heel. They did refund that faulty, thank goodness. Whenever I went up to the seamstress section nobody would even acknowledge that I was standing there waiting on someone to help me. Beautiful dresses and okay service isn't enough for me to go back after all the mishaps. I will say that I was extremely happy with the end result of my dress but the journey was aggravating. Arriving late, I was surprised to get such a great parking spot, but it was just by luck. This parking lot is small and busy (this was on a Saturday at 12PM). So arrive early to get a parking spot, get in line for a ticket and then get your food and drink goodies. Walking through the hallway to get into the theater felt like walking through a dark, dank, grunge rock backstage concert alley. The lights were completely dimmed when we came in and the feature was beginning. We couldn't see a thing. I don't recommend arriving this late (my bad). So after struggling to find our seats I found myself in the most plush and uncomfortable seat I've ever sat in at a theater. I love how big they are, but there is no back support whatsoever. So you have to slouch to actually feel comfortable, which isn't my thing. I'm always sitting up straight so my back doesn't hurt later. So I did a lot of tossing and turning. I also noticed that the air was really humid, sticky and heavy as well. It wasn't too hot or too cold, but it was uncomfortable. We were in a smaller sized theater so we thought sitting in the back would be better because the screen should be huge compared to the room size. Well the screen was small and it was extremely dim. Like the projector was placed too far away from the screen so everything was dull and shadowy. And I felt like throughout the film I wanted a remote control to turn up the volume. I know movies that are extremely loud can be annoying, but I would prefer loud over low and indistinct. Especially with an action movie. So I need to come back when the movie I want to see is in a larger theater and then see if these factors are any better. I've been here on multiple occasions like Mother's Day and Easter, and now I've had the honor of photographing a beautiful wedding at The Boca Resort and I had a fantastic time. The service is impeccable, the decor was beautiful and everything went off without any issues. They treat the vendors politely and efficiently. Overall, this is a beautiful hotel with a lot of great activities to do and things to see. And tons of great photographic opportunities and hot spots. ;) I love taking the boat to the other half of the Resort to lounge on the beach, by the pool and order cutesy cocktails and tasty pool side food. The spa, on the mainland, is so decadent and luxurious. You get fluffy robes, rubber shoes and a locker where you're then allowed to roam the spa in relaxation. The pool is a fantastic area to tan, and we actually even dyed Easter eggs pool side. There's a cascading waterfall where you can massage your body with pure water power. There's so much more I haven't had the chance to experience but it seems like there's a boundless amount of things to choose from.I really was excited to try their burgers and ordered the mushroom and onion burger with tater tots. The burger was cooked to my preference, and it was just okay. Don't get me wrong it was really juicy because I think the ratio of meat that they use is 73% lean. So their burgers are really greasy and fatty. And the bun was one of their onion buns that I though was a bit of overkill in flavors for the burger. The tater tots came out and they were cold, but I've cooked tater tots at home before and it gets cold really quickly. So I would just say not to order their tater tots unless you get them right out of the fryer and eat them extremely fast. The service was good, they were very personable, accommodating and knowledgeable about their menu. I am really intrigued by all their other menu options such as their appetizers, sandwiches and happy hour. So I am not giving up on Tucker's just yet. I'll keep you posted on my next venture out there. From EvaWise@flyun.vetdakvee.com Mon May 19 10:26:51 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFB81A03A8 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:26:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FUZZY_CPILL=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VuTp9lITEyuO for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flyun.vetdakvee.com (flyun.vetdakvee.com [142.0.196.131]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8C01A0393 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <5523.5578.u76bg.458677aef38a9092ba50f684272251af@systemMail.vetdakvee.com> From: 20/20 Eyesight in 2 Weeks Subject: Go from blurry to clear vision... Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 10:26:26 -0700 To: Reply-to: Restore 20/20 Vision in 2 weeks Shocking Truth Revealed Health Journal Enlightens Readers how to Restore 20/20 Vision in 14 Days ========================================================================== Fortunately all hope is not lost. This is a permanent solution that is natural and effective. See Scientist Explanation: http://www.vetdakvee.com/Eyesight/PSA/Miracle/video.index - People suffering from myopia, hyperopia or presbyopia should also be wary of the various fraudulent vision correcting quick fixes out there, it is a fact that magic ingredient pills, supplements and potions have no real beneficial effects on vision problems and steering clear of all such products is the best decisions. -End PSA Announcement- ** Notice - This video has been released bc Optometrists are expected to lose patients once this info hits nationwide media. - Medical experts are admitting that glasses can Worsen your vision... http://www.vetdakvee.com/Eyesight/PSA/Miracle/video.index modify message settings - Alert System Notifications 1107 Valeria Dr. Marion, TX 78124 or http://www.vetdakvee.com/iw4ht/sngo4.dgj49 Unfortunately the journey to the completion of my dress wasn't so pleasant. There were no follow up calls about the dress arriving or when I needed to get it fitted; even after I told them multiple times that my date changed. Every time I came to make a payment it took 20 minutes to check out because of bickering employees or broken computer files. When I paid to have extra length added to my dress it arrived with no extra length. I had to take back my original shoe choice for a shorter heel. They did refund that faulty, thank goodness. Whenever I went up to the seamstress section nobody would even acknowledge that I was standing there waiting on someone to help me. Beautiful dresses and okay service isn't enough for me to go back after all the mishaps. I will say that I was extremely happy with the end result of my dress but the journey was aggravating. Arriving late, I was surprised to get such a great parking spot, but it was just by luck. This parking lot is small and busy (this was on a Saturday at 12PM). So arrive early to get a parking spot, get in line for a ticket and then get your food and drink goodies. Walking through the hallway to get into the theater felt like walking through a dark, dank, grunge rock backstage concert alley. The lights were completely dimmed when we came in and the feature was beginning. We couldn't see a thing. I don't recommend arriving this late (my bad). So after struggling to find our seats I found myself in the most plush and uncomfortable seat I've ever sat in at a theater. I love how big they are, but there is no back support whatsoever. So you have to slouch to actually feel comfortable, which isn't my thing. I'm always sitting up straight so my back doesn't hurt later. So I did a lot of tossing and turning. I also noticed that the air was really humid, sticky and heavy as well. It wasn't too hot or too cold, but it was uncomfortable. We were in a smaller sized theater so we thought sitting in the back would be better because the screen should be huge compared to the room size. Well the screen was small and it was extremely dim. Like the projector was placed too far away from the screen so everything was dull and shadowy. And I felt like throughout the film I wanted a remote control to turn up the volume. I know movies that are extremely loud can be annoying, but I would prefer loud over low and indistinct. Especially with an action movie. So I need to come back when the movie I want to see is in a larger theater and then see if these factors are any better. I've been here on multiple occasions like Mother's Day and Easter, and now I've had the honor of photographing a beautiful wedding at The Boca Resort and I had a fantastic time. The service is impeccable, the decor was beautiful and everything went off without any issues. They treat the vendors politely and efficiently. Overall, this is a beautiful hotel with a lot of great activities to do and things to see. And tons of great photographic opportunities and hot spots. ;) I love taking the boat to the other half of the Resort to lounge on the beach, by the pool and order cutesy cocktails and tasty pool side food. The spa, on the mainland, is so decadent and luxurious. You get fluffy robes, rubber shoes and a locker where you're then allowed to roam the spa in relaxation. The pool is a fantastic area to tan, and we actually even dyed Easter eggs pool side. There's a cascading waterfall where you can massage your body with pure water power. There's so much more I haven't had the chance to experience but it seems like there's a boundless amount of things to choose from.I really was excited to try their burgers and ordered the mushroom and onion burger with tater tots. The burger was cooked to my preference, and it was just okay. Don't get me wrong it was really juicy because I think the ratio of meat that they use is 73% lean. So their burgers are really greasy and fatty. And the bun was one of their onion buns that I though was a bit of overkill in flavors for the burger. The tater tots came out and they were cold, but I've cooked tater tots at home before and it gets cold really quickly. So I would just say not to order their tater tots unless you get them right out of the fryer and eat them extremely fast. The service was good, they were very personable, accommodating and knowledgeable about their menu. I am really intrigued by all their other menu options such as their appetizers, sandwiches and happy hour. So I am not giving up on Tucker's just yet. I'll keep you posted on my next venture out there. From KayleighMorton@beneschlaw.steamshape.com Mon May 19 10:51:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542E41A038E for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:51:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GwGcsUjuy1T8 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beneschlaw.steamshape.com (beneschlaw.steamshape.com [142.0.196.158]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A531A0193 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: From: Investigate Backgrounds in Seconds Message-ID: <4525.6525.20140519021547.5489.62922.2dbded046ef806d14b637e2bb38460d7.server1@Kayleigh.beneschlaw.steamshape.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 10:51:49 -0700 Subject: verify report findings Private Arrest Records and Background Info is now Available to Public Federal Records >> Full Access >> Granted Run a Background Check on Anyone Instantly: / http://www.steamshape.com/May/arrestRecords/posted/database.index - No Questions Asked - Remain Anonymous * Gain access to Criminal Records, Judgements & Liens, Previous Addresses, Phone Numbers Social Media Accounts, Emails message settings - modify w/ - Alert System Notifications 1107 Valeria Dr. M a r i o n- TX 78124 or http://www.steamshape.com/93h/gnoe39-g5.gnro4 The correct answer for traditional Spring architectures is to place transactional semantics on the service classes, for the reasons that others have already described. An emerging trend in Spring is toward domain-driven design. Spring Roo exemplifies the trend nicely. The idea is to make the domain object POJOs a lot richer than they are on typical Spring architectures (usually they are anemic), and in particular to put transaction and persistence semantics on the domain objects themselves. In cases where all that's needed is simple CRUD operations, the web controllers operate directly on the domain object POJOs (they're functioning as entities in this context), and there's no service tier. In cases where there's some kind of coordination needed between domain objects, you can have a service bean handle that, with @Transaction as per tradition. You can set the transaction propagation on the domain objects to something like REQUIRED so that the domain objects use any existing transactions, such as transactions that were started at the service bean. Technically this technique makes use of AspectJ and . Roo uses AspectJ inter-type definitions to separate the entity semantics (transactions and persistence) from the domain object stuff (basically fields and business methods).s never changed anywhere after development, ever. Then I realized that "centralized" only has value in quite small systems - only in small systems will you ever be able to grok a configuration file as a whole. And what is really the value of understanding the wiring as a whole, when the same "wirings" are mostly duplicated by dependencies in the code? So the only thing I've kept is meta-data (annotations), which is still kind-of declarative. These never change at runtime and they're never "configuration" data that someone will change on the fly - so I think keeping it in the code is nice. I use full auto-wiring as much as I can. I love it. I won't go back to old-style spring unless threatened at gun-point. My reasons for preferring fully @Autowired have changed over time. Right now I think the most important reason for using autowiring is that there's one less abstraction in your system to keep track of. The "bean name" is effectively gone. It turns out the bean name only exists because of xml. So a full layer of abstract indirections (where you would wire bean-name "foo" into bean "bar") is gone. Now I wire the "Foo" interface into my bean directly, and implementation is chosen by run-time profile. This allows me to work with code when tracing dependencies and implementations. When I see an autowired dependency in my code I can just press the "go to implementation" key in my IDE and up comes the list of known implementations. In most cases there's just one implementation and I'm straight into the class. Can't be much simpler than that, and I always know exactly what implementation is being used (I claim that the opposite is closer to the truth with xml wiring - funny how your perspective changes) lic class SecurityContextHolderFacade implements SecurityContextFacade { public SecurityContext getContext() { return SecurityContextHolder.getContext(); } public void setContext(SecurityContext securityContext) { SecurityContextHolder.setContext(securityContext); } Now you could say that it's just a very simple layer, but each layer of abstraction that we add to our systems increase complexity. I really don't think the xml ever added any real value to any system I've worked with. Most systems I've ever work with only have one configuration of the production runtime environment. There may be other configurations for test and so on. I'd say that full autowiring is the ruby-on-rails of spring: It embraces the notion that there's a normal and common usage pattern that most use cases follow. With XML configuration you permit a lot of consistent/inconsistent configuration usage that may/may not be intended. I've seen so much xml configuration go overboard with inconsistencies - does it get refactored together with the code ? Thought not. Are those variations there for a reason? Usually not. We hardly use qualifiers in our configuration, and found other ways to solve these situations. This is a clear "disadvantage" we encounter: We've slightly changed the way we code to make it interact smoother with autowiring: A customer repository no longer implements the generic Repository interface but we make an interface CustomerRepository that extends Repository. Sometimes there's also a trick or two when it comes to subclassing. But it usually just points us in the direction of stronger typing, which I find is almost always a better solution. But yes, you're tying to a particular style of DI that mostly spring does. We don't even make public setters for dependencies any more (So you could argue that we're +1 in the encapsulation/information hiding department) We still have some xml in our system, but the xml basically only contains the anomalies. Full autowiring integrates nicely with xml.d="propertyConfigurer" class="org.springframework.beans.factory.config.PropertyPlaceholderConfigurer"> {results.max} From AndresTownsend@coil.decoratedprepare.com Mon May 19 11:54:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4DE1A01B4 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 11:54:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NIkTYzGVNXiO for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 11:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coil.decoratedprepare.com (coil.decoratedprepare.com [208.88.154.230]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2AC1A02A2 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 11:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <4525.6525.20140519030928.6659.20004.ad69bc62ce9b91d862c854b50e6d0413.server1@Andres.coil.decoratedprepare.com> To: Subject: Get the look of botox From: This is Better than Botox Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 11:54:12 -0700 In Celebrity News: 1 Celeb who is taking Doc Oz's Skin advice... 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So the bathroom was. I felt a little disappointed. Luckily, my room had great city and park view. I could enjoy the beautifully natural view while sipping a cup a tea. It made me more comfort modify message settings Alert System Notifications -1107-Valeria Dr. Marion, TX 78124 http://www.decoratedprepare.com/o3jt/dmgo4.dngi4 This was our 10 year old son's first stay in NYC and so we wanted to make it special. The Sherry-Netherland was given excellent reviews on TripAdvisor so we decided to stay here and were delighted by our choice.The hotel is in a wonderful art deco tower in a splendid location at the south east corner of central park. There are many wonderful ceiling murals in the hotel lobby and lifts (elevators) and there is a feeling that this is a far more personal affair than many larger hotels.The staff (doormen, concierge/reception staff and the lift operators) were all very welcoming, cheerful and helpful. It is perhaps unfair to single any individual out because they were all so good but I can not help but give a special mention to Jacqueline (the Front Office Manager), Russell the Concierge and William the doorman all of whom did their bit to make our stay just that bit more special. o central park, the metro and times square were within walking distance. Lots of food and entertainment options around. Make sure to pick an upper floor room, because there's a lot of noise coming from the bar next door. The reception staff was someti A quick note regarding the concierge staff. They were able to provide passes to some attractions which were very useful in jumping to the front of the queue (line). Of particular mention were the passes for the Empire State Building and the Intrepid Aircraft Carrier where the time saving was considerable.We had a lovely suite on the 7th floor with our son sleeping on a sofa bed in the sitting room. Our bed was extremely comfortable and the marble-clad bathroom had both a bath and a walk-in shower. It was very quiet. The suite also had a kitchenette which we did not use but might appeal to some. An outstanding place to stay and one that I will certainly return to, if possible, when I next visit NYCion with all the buzz and action outside the hotel but whisper quiet rooms inside. We had a suite with amazing city views. The bed was supremely comfortable and the bathroom was old fashioned luxe - the power shower was truly awesome. The staff were warm and welcoming and the lift attendants were a lovely touch which made journeys in the elevator so special. There is a fantastic gym though there is no swimming pool. We had been there once before and enjoyed it so much that we returned with friends; there is no doubt that we will be back.Now whenever you want a instance of Trip; sometimes you may want a SUV to initialize FourWheel or sometimes you may want Sedan. It really depends what you want based on specific situation. Spring MVC, which with 2.5+ allows you to use POJOs as Controller classes, meaning you don't have to extend from any particular framework (as in Struts or Spring pre-2.5). Controller classes are also dead simple to test thanks in part to dependency injection Spring integration with Hibernate, which does a good job of simplifying work with that ORM solution (for most cases) Using Spring for a web app enables you to use your Domain Objects at all levels of the application - the same classes that are mapped using Hibernate are the classes you use as "form beans." By nature, this will lead to a more robust domain model, in part because it's going to cut down on the number of classes. To solve this problem you'd want to have a Factory Pattern as creational pattern. Where a factory returns the right instance. So eventually you'll end up with lots of glue code just to instantiate objects correctly. Spring does the job of glue code best without that glue code. You declare mappings in XML and it initialized the objects automatically. It also does lot using singleton architecture for instances and that helps in optimized memory usage. This is also called Inversion Of Control. Other frameworks to do this are Google guice, Pico container etc. Apart from this Spring has validation framework, extensive support for DAO layer in collaboration with JDBC, I-batis and Hibernate (and many more). Provides excellent Transactional control over database transactions. From PeytonVargas@americascollection.odrobmulti.com Mon May 19 12:23:17 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2E41A03A9 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 12:23:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.777 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.777 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=0.723, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TRACKER_ID=1.306] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id brQjlTQLVooZ for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 12:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from americascollection.odrobmulti.com (americascollection.odrobmulti.com [208.88.154.217]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D4C1A0394 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 12:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 12:23:18 -0700 From: Settlement Package Request Message-ID: <20140519172714.23721.4152899084.5533.63456@Peyton.odrobmulti.com> Subject: Tax relief-settlement | 34562

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On May 15, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Jeremy Leber wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Section 4.1.3 (Job Terminating State) refers to the "destination-state" member attribute of "destination-statuses" (on line 366). Should "destination state" actually be "transmission-status"? > > Thanks, > Jeremy > > > Jeremy Leber > Lexmark International, Inc. > 859-825-4505 > jlleber@lexmark.com > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > All, > > I have posted the stable draft of the IPP FaxOut Service errata to: > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20140509.docx > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20140509.pdf > > The PDF is the rev version. 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The Michael Jackson performance on the 2014 Billboard Music Awards was the result of nearly half a year of planning, choreography and filming, not to mention the development of new technology. Producers of the Billboard Music Awards did not see even a portion of the film until eight days before the broadcast. 5 Other Awesome Music Holograms "We've been talking about it for the last five months and while we were talking about it they were still inventing the process," says BBMA director and producer Larry Klein. "It was really strange talking about something that did not exist."

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Balkans Flooding: Bosnia, Serbia and Croatia Deal With Deadly Floods; Belgrade in Crosshairs

At least 35 people have been killed and tens of thousands of others forced to flee their homes in the Balkans during the worst flooding in over a century for the region. As if the catastrophic flooding weren't enough, the region is also dealing with a host of other consequences from the flooding, including land mines, landslides and a potential shutdown of one of the biggest power plants in the region.

The flooding in Bosnia, Serbia, and to a somewhat lesser extent, Croatia, started on Thursday after a slow-moving system dumped three-months worth of rain onto the region in just three days.

"A strong disturbance in the jet stream closed off into a swirling, stuck upper-level low near the Balkans, instead of sweeping through," said weather.com senior meteorologist. "The result is persistent, flooding rainfall."

Thousands of homes and businesses, roads and railways were washed out by the flooding. Tens of thousands were evacuated across the three countries, 20,000 plus in Serbia alone, including entire towns in some instances.

In Obrenovac, Serbia flooding forced the evacuations of 7,800 people with 2,000 others believed to be stranded on the top floors of buildings. The town is home to the Nikola Tesla power plantthe country's largesta coal-fed behemoth that provides power to half of Serbia and most power to the country's capital of Belgrade.

Authorities in Obrenovac said Monday that thousands of soldiers, police and volunteers have been trying to "defend" the power plant from floodwaters using a wall of sandbags, but that the situation there was still "critical," according to the Associated Press.

Even if some areas have escaped the worst of the flooding, others have been taken out by some of the 3,100 landslides2,100 in Bosnia and an additional 1,000 in Serbiathat have occurred over the past four days, triggered by the tremendous amount of water that has destabilized and shifted the earth.

The flooding and landslides also combined to sweep away thousands of land mines from the wars that characterized the region during the 1990s. Also swept away, were the warning signs that alerted residents to the presence of nearby land mines. Authorities fear that deadly encounters with land mines swept downstream will increase as the debris from the floods settles.

But the worst of the flooding may not be over yet. Though the weather in the region has improved dramatically since Thursday, weather.com meteorologist Jon Erdman said that flooding downstream, especially in the Serbian capital of Belgrade, will continue over the coming days.

"Flood events can persist for days, even weeks after heavy rain occurs, as water from swollen tributaries empties into main stem rivers, producing a broad flood crest," Erdman said.

Indeed, even as floodwaters receded in some locations, others downstream along the Sava River had already been swept away by the swollen expanse of river. And as the flooding continues, authorities in the region fear that the death toll will only continue to grow.

"The situation is catastrophic," said Bosnia's refugee minister, Adil Osmanovic.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Sneakyness Aug 6 '09 at 0:314 Sneakyness: And not exactly text. I think the requirements of reading text files and reading binary files differ somewhat. You might pass it through base64 or uuencode, though. Aug 16 '09 at 10:24+1 for askingSince the trend is towards: XML is like violence if its not working for you... you're probably not using enough of it. Gishu Feb 3 '10 at 6:4Back in 1995 I used WinWord to open 64MB files on a 16MB machine. I'm sure it would do just as well 15 years later. Gabe Mar 19 '10 at 23:46 generate random text files instead of binaries, use this: cat /dev/urandom | tr -dc 'A-z' | head -c 1000000, where the last number after -c is the number of bytes in the file. indiv Mar 19 '10 at 23:48 8 @Anders: 1GB+ log files? Yikes! Have you never heard of logrotate? Thanatos Jul 19 '10 at 2:11 19 @Thanatos I have, but that doesn't mean everyone who writes software or configures servers have... Anders Sandvig Jul 21 '10 at 10:5Microsoft Office Access can actually read and parse very large xml files, but will only make sense of it if the xml format fits with something that it can translate to a table. Niels Brinch Jun 8 '11 at 6:02This should be at least a similar question or even linked as it was asked 18 months prior... ONDEV Jan 19 '12 at 0:49 Kev, I for one find this question very useful. Colonel Panic May 24 '12 at 9:49 6 I absolutely agree with matt, if this doesn't fit the format, the format is downright WRONG and needs to be updated. @Kev Please consider investing time into correcting this huge problem with S.O. so that questions like this are encouraged. Bill K Jun 1 '12 at 17:50@MattHickford you are welcome to discuss this on our meta site: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions Kev Jun 2 '12 at 23:15 @BillK you are welcome to discuss this on our meta site: m Kev Jun 2 '12 at 23:16 @Kev I agree with others above. 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(range flip/flop) operator makes a nice selection mechanism to limit the crud you have to wade through, as well E.g.: perl -n -e 'print if ( 1000000 .. 2000000)' humongo.txt | less (start at line 1 million and stop at line 2 million, sift the output manually in "less")$ perl -n -e 'print if ( /interesting regex/ .. /boring regex/)' humongo.txt | less (start when the "interesting regular expression" finds something, stop when the "boring regular expression" find the end of an interesting block -- may find multiple blocks, sift the output...) Finally, 100 MB isn't too big. 3 GB is getting kinda big. I used to work at a print & mail facility that created about 2 % of U.S. first class mail. One of the systems for which I was the tech lead accounted for about 15+ % of the pieces of mail. 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Using cygwin (and some clever grep/less/sed-magic) I easily found the part I was interested in and could read it without any hassle. wasatz Apr 23 '10 at 11:56cygwin's less works for viewing a file > 2GB sweet rogerdpack Sep 20 '11 at 16:28you don't need cygwin for less, you can also use it under windows:I couldn't figure out how to edit files with less but after getting the taste I used vim to edit a bulky JSON object which made the other editors (Brackets, Textmate <- note I'm running on OS X) throw up. yoshi Dec 18 '12 at 10:15This XML editor here has also a large file viewer com ponent and does provide syntax coloring also for huge files. The files are not loaded completely into memory so a multi-GB document shouldn't be a problem. In addition this tool can also validate those big XML documents ... In my opinion one of the best approaches to work with huge XML data. lichtfusion Apr 21 '13 at 12:38Stop downgrade users to the command line tools, prefer to upgrade softwares to human users (i.e. with easy interface). SOne thing is how big files your editor can edit theoretically. But another thing is, is it fast enough to realistically edit that file. Most editors use the easy way and simply load the whole file in memory. This means that you can not edit files larger than the largest memory block. This gets even worse if the editor converts ASCII file into Unicode, which doubles the size. With editors like this, just opening the file may take several minutes. But even if you can load the file, any editing operations may be so slow that you really can not do anything. For editing huge files, VEDIT (non ) is the best choice. It is marketed as the fastest editor on Earth, and it is probably true. In addition, VEDIT uses very little of memory and does not create huge tmp files no matter how big files you are editing. The standard (32-bit) version of VEDIT can edit files up to 2 GB (but you can edit larger files by using the built-in splitter function). VEDIT Pro64 can directly handle files of any size. UltraEdit is OK, too, but it is not as fast as VEDIT and you may need to change configuration and sacrifice backup and undo for editing large files.If you just want to View the file, V File Viewer is an excellent tool, I opened an 8.5GB file with it earlier today. I have to say, I've been doing some searching today for a text editor which will handle what I call "Large" files and so far all the applications I've tried have choked. It makes me laugh to see people describing 100MB files as "Large". I deal with alot of data, clients will send me a flat text file with their entire say an entire transaction database covering a year or more of transactions and that sort of thing. I regularly deal with file sizes of over 2Gb, and right now am looking at a text file which as I said is 8.5 Gb, but which is mostly crap I'm not interested in. Anyone know of anything that will handle that? As to why would I want to? Well, we frequently get data provided to us with high/low ascii characters embed ded which cause our data processing program (SAS) to fail to read the data in (such as end of file characters or embedded line feed characters etc). In order to fix this, I usually open the data in a text editor and strip the special chars out. I just opened (copy of) my Outlook .pst file (297 MB) on VEDIT. Opening the file took approximately 0.1 seconds Searching for a string that was found near the end of file took 8.0 sec in normal mode and 1.1 sec in read-only mode. Inserting and deleting characters were instantenous, as was undo. Saving the file took 11 seconds. Opening the same file to Ultraedit took 9.8 sec in normal mode and about 1.0 sec if tmp files were disabled. Searching took 11.5 sec (using read-only mode did not have effect on this). Inserting and deleting characters were instantenous, but undo a single character insert took 26 seconds. Saving the file took 16 seconds. I tried to open the file in Notepad, but it crashed (probably because the file is binary). Opening a 92 MB text file took 3 minutes. Attempt to load the file on Eclipse default editor caused error "out of java heap space". The same happened even with the 92 MB file.Ordinarily, I use GNU Emacs (v23) for text editing or light coding. But I have to admit GNU Emacs sucks when it comes to large, huge, gigantic files: you have to configure and compile it yourself to edit file in the magnitute of megabytes, but even if you do, it's not really recommended. For large files, in text mode GNU Emacs is sluggish at best and sometimes hang; in hex-mode, it almost always hang (and I resort to gvim + xxd for hexediting not-so-large files, and dedicated hex editors for really-large files). I guess this is not some particularity with my computer but some design issues (feature? bug?) with GNU Emacs.1) If you have installed python 3.4 or later, pip is included with python and should already be working on your system. 2) If you are running a version below python 3.4 or if pip was not installed with python 3.4 for some reason, then you'd probably use pip's official installation script get-pip.py. The pip installer now grabs setuptools for you, and works regardless of architecture (32bit or 64bit). 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My method, we usually do 4 at a time.

1) boil water in a kettle

2) pour boiling water into sauce pan.(75mm/3in. enuf to cover eggs)

3) add salt to the water

4) preheat eggs from fridge in warm tap water so they dont crack due to temperature change

5) gentley place eggs into saucepan of boiling water.

6) maintain gentle boil for 6 to 7 minutes for a soft centre, which is our preference.

My question

1) is the salt neccessary?

2) is there a better way? I don't think the salt does much good. Also, why do step one at all. Boil the water in the saucepan. But first. Use a push pin to make a small hole in the blunt end of each egg. Place the eggs in the saucepan and fill with hot tap water. Bring to a boil, covered then turn down the heat to a gentle boil for 10 minutes for hard cooked. For softer yolks back off a couple of minutes. Pour off the boiling water and shake the pan vigorously to crack the shells all over, peel and eat. I put water in a saucepan and gently put in the eggs, then I add a little salt and about 1 tablespoon of vinegar. I bring the water to a boil and take the pan off the heat. Then I cover the pan and let it set for 20 minutes. Then I drain off the hot water and immediately put them in ice cold water. They turn out perfect every time.1) The point is to raise the temperature of the eggs slowly along with the water. 2) There is an air pocket at the blunt end of the egg and the pin should go into the air pocket. If any white leaks out, it's minimal.

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Im developing an android application for face recognition, using JavaCV which is unofficial wrapper of OpenCV. After importing (com.googlecode.javacv.cpp.opencv_contrib.FaceRecognizer) I apply and test the following known methods: LBPH using createLBPHFaceRecognizer() method FisherFace using createFisherFaceRecognizer() method EigenFace using createEigenFaceRecognizer() method Before I recognize the detected face, I correct the rotated face and crop the proper zone, inspiring from this method In general when I pass on camera a face already exist in the database, the recognition is ok. But this is not always correct. Sometimes it recognizes the unknown face (not found in Database of trained samples) with a high probability. When we have in the DB two or more faces of similar features (beard, mustache, glasses...) the recognition may be highly mistaken between those faces! To predict the result using the test face image, I apply the following code: public String predict(Mat m) { int n[] = new int[1]; double p[] = new double[1]; IplImage ipl = MatToIplImage(m,WIDTH, HEIGHT); faceRecognizer.predict(ipl, n, p); if (n[0]!=-1) mProb=(int)p[0]; else mProb=-1; if (n[0] != -1) return labelsFile.get(n[0]); else return "Unkown"; } I cant control the threshold of the probability p, because: Small p < 50 could predict a correct result. High p > 70 could predict a false result. Middle p could predict a correct or false. As well, I dont understand why predict() function gives sometime a probability greater than 100 in case of using LBPH??? and in case of Fisher and Eigen it gives very big values (>2000) ?? Can someone help in finding a solution for these bizarre problems? Is there any suggestion to improve robustness of recognition? especially in case of similarity of two different faces. The following is the entire class using Facerecognizer: package org.opencv.javacv.facerecognition; import static com.googlecode.javacv.cpp.opencv_highgui.*; import static com.googlecode.javacv.cpp.opencv_core.*; import static com.googlecode.javacv.cpp.opencv_imgproc.*; import static com.googlecode.javacv.cpp.opencv_contrib.*; import java.io.File; import java.io.FileOutputStream; import java.io.FilenameFilter; import java.util.ArrayList; import org.opencv.android.Utils; import org.opencv.core.Mat; import com.googlecode.javacv.cpp.opencv_imgproc; import com.googlecode.javacv.cpp.opencv_contrib.FaceRecognizer; import com.googlecode.javacv.cpp.opencv_core.IplImage; import com.googlecode.javacv.cpp.opencv_core.MatVector;

yes, you'll need 3 different threshold values, one for each method, since the feature-space for all of them differ. also, your 'p' value in the prediction is not a probability, http://www.sears.com/en_us/bed-bath-home.html but the distance from your test image to the closest found match in the db (so, kinda the inverse of it), so that's not at all in the [0..100] range.

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I've done it, with complex apps. And it works perfectly. You can develop iphone apps without ever seeing a mac or iphone.You can develop on windows an HTML (or better: HTML5) app, using tools like Sencha or JQTouch, or mobi1. (They used to all be for a while)Then you use openSSL to sign the app. And Adobe PhoneGAP Build service to build IPhone App. But you need the iphone developer licence to install it on an iphone. But you don't need a mac or iphone at any minute to compile, build or test it - all that is done ON THE PCI've done it, and it works perfectly. (But with Android type responsiveness - not as fast as a native IPhone app) @echo offsetlocal enableextensions enabledelayedexpansionif "x%1"=="x" (echo Usage: which goto :en:: First try the unadorned filenmame.set fullspec=call :find_it %:: Then try all adorned filenames in orderset my :loop1:: Stop if found or out of extensions.if "xmypathext"=="x" goto :loop1en Get the next extension and try it for /f "delims=;" %%j in ("mypathext") do set myext=%%j call :find_it %1myext You could also use a program from the the Babylonian era (circa 300 bc) running C and C++ called dragonfly. If your app has one or two screens with limited interactivity, and many calculations, go for it. It includes an emulator. You compile to the iphone at the press of a button. (Not sure, but I think you do need a developers license in any case) And then there is Xamarin. You develop in C# with special calls to native code. You'll have to learn the environment.Foredecker: "which" searches the PATH for the executable that will be run if you type a command at the shell prompt. Greg Hewgill Nov 20 '08 at 4:28 1 for example, if you have 5 versions of Java installed and you don't know which one is being used you can type "which java" and it gives you the PATH to the binary ninesided Nov 20 '08 at 4:41 38 Why are folks modding up wrong answers? The equivalent to 'which' is 'where.exe'. Michael Ratanapintha was the first correct one. Foredecker Nov 22 '08 at 5:05 4@Foredecker, MR says it's "where" in Win2k3 but Win2k3 wasn't part of the question. If "where" isn't in the other Windows versions, other answers are also valid. IMNSHO, the answer that works on all Windows versions is the best. Also, the other answers aren't wrong, just different ways of doing it. paxdiablo Nov 22 '08 at 12:55 11 I know this question arose before SuperUser, but it probably belongs there. palswim Oct 12 '10 at 17:04 You can a batch file having only 90 bytes from here:I found this batch file very hand Etienne Sep 21 '11 at 20:58This was asked in other threads: [Equivalent of *Nix 'which' command in Powershell?][1] [Powershell equivalent to unix which command?][ superuser.com/ Anonymous Dec 13 '11 at 5:2Why is this closed as off topic??? The FAQ says appropriate questions can be about "software tools commonly used by programmers", like "which"?? I found this question while I was working on a cross platform programming project and couldn't figure out how to tell where a program was on Windows. Seems like a perfect question for Stack Overflow. Jason Jun 11 '12 at 18:17This is very anoiing. Administrators sometimes close questions that may be just a bit off topic, but still very interesting. 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Ben Voigt Mar 25 at 19:41@BenVoigt Thanks for the clarification. Jasper Blues Mar 25 at 22:29 Hey, I wish I had learned that Too bad it doesn't work with MS-DOS or Win9x (that is, with command.com). (Raymond Chen has a more "elaborate" version you can turn into a batch file: ) Michael Ratanapintha Jan 1 '09 at 3:27 3@Michael, if you're still using DOS or Win95, finding executables on the path are the least of your problems :-) paxdiablo Apr 9 '09 at 5:41windows recognizes more than .exe as executable. Last time I coded a which back in W95/DOS days amdittedly, the search order was - current dir, then each path dir, for cmd.com, then cmd.exe, then cmd.bat So, even cmd.bat in current dir is executed befroe cmd.exe soemwhere in path Mawg Mar 26 '10 at 0:46@mawg, the original was for where you know the extension since it mirrors which under UNIX (where that extension-adding trickery doesn't occur). I've now added one which can do what you wish but it's no longer a simple command so much as a script. It first tries the unadorned command then each of the extension ones. Hope that helps. You can tweak it to your needs as you see fit (if you want the same search order as with Windows for example - this one shows all possibilities). paxdiablo Mar 26 '10 at 1:34looks like a emicon qwertymk Jan 23 '12 at 2:2I needed a solution for Windows XP, and this did the trick. Thanks Tom Pietrosanti Apr 10 '13 at 15:54To turn this into a batch script, create a file called "which.bat": @echo off for %%i in (%1) do @echo. add it to an alias.bat script that you load everytime you run cmd.exe (put the above script in a new directory called C:\usr\aliases): Then you can make a script to launch cmd.exe with the alias.bat fil Discussion about topicality of questions belongs on Meta Stack Overflow. 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Although not perfect, it seems to be the only one that actually makes things easier instead of harder. The really nice thing about TortoiseHg is that it helps in reeducating SVN users towards working with DVCS, as opposed to TortoiseGit which tries to masquerade Git as if it were SVN, which it isn't -- which only makes things more confusing instead of easie result := Copy(Path_str,1,(semic_pos - 1)); { return result { hmm! although *I* never reference a Root drive (my directory tree) { is 1/2 way structured), some network logon software which I run { does (it adds Z:\ to the path). This means that I have to allow { path entries with & without a terminating backslash. I'll delete { anysuch here since I always add one in the main program below. if (Copy(result,(Length(result)),1) = '\') then Delete(result,Length(result),1); path_str := Copy(path_str,(semic_pos + 1), (length(path_str) - semic_pos)); Get_next_dir := result; end; { of function get_next_dir } begin { the following is a kludge which makes the funtion Get_next_dir easier { to implement. By appending a semi-colon to the end of the path { Get_next_dir doesn't need to handle the special case of the last entry { which normally doesn't have a semic afterwards. It may be a kludge, { but it's a documented kludge (you might even call it a refinement). path_str := GetEnv('Path') + ';'; if (paramCount = 0) then begin WriteLn('Whence : V',program_version,' from ',program_date); Writeln; WriteLn('Usage : WHENCE command[.extension]'); WriteLn;WriteLn('Whence is a ''find file''type utility witha difference'); Writeln('There are are already more than enough of those :-)'); Write ('Use Whence when you''re not sure where a command which you '); WriteLn('want to invoke'); WriteLn('actually resides.'); +1 for ConEmu. Just discovered it today and have been hugely impressed so far. Have used Console2 up until today but this looks like it will be my new console of choice. Xanthalas Jun 6 '12 at 11:33 17 As a long-time user of Console 2, I switched to ConEmu recently and have not looked back. This is so much better than anything that has come before it almost defies belief. Plus is is being rapidly developed (thanks Maximus!) with juicy new features appearing often enough to make it feel exciting. If you've not tried this, do it now. I have no hesitation in recommending it as the best console emulator on Windows. Charles Roper Jun 7 '12 at 13:08 8 Another +1 from a new user. This is a console for developers, by developers. It seems like every time I think "well, it would be nice if it did _____", there's an option for it. Major thanks for fixing such a broken console experience in Windows! drharris Jun 19 '12 at 13:51 Does ConEmu support SGR (underline, blinking, etc) ANSI codes? I wasn't able to get it work with initial testing. Maybe I'm overlooking something. EdGruberman Jan 14 '13 at 23:06 1 ConEmu is pure Awesomeness Fsplit(paramStr(1),command_directory,command_name,command_extension); if (command_directory <> '') then begin WriteLn('directory detected *',command_directory,'*'); Halt(0); end; if (command_extension <> '') then begin path_str := Fsearch(paramstr(1),''); { current directory } if (path_str <> '') then WriteLn('Dos command = "',Fexpand(path_str),'"') else begin path_str := Fsearch(paramstr(1),GetEnv('path')); if (path_str <> '') then WriteLn('Dos command = "',Fexpand(path_str),'"') else Writeln('command not found in path.'); end; end else begin { O.K, the way it works, DOS looks for a command firstly in the current } { directory, then in each directory in the Path. If no extension is } { given and several commands of the same name exist, then .COM has } { priority over .EXE, has priority over .BAT } Check_for(paramstr(1) + '.com'); { won't return if file is found } Check_for(paramstr(1) + '.exe'); Check_for(paramstr(1) + '.bat'); begin Check_for(search_dir + '\' + paramstr(1) + '.com'); Check_for(search_dir + '\' + paramstr(1) + '.exe'); Check_for(search_dir + '\' + paramstr(1) + '.bat'); search_dir := Get_next_dir; From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Tue May 20 12:37:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F241A019B for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:37:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.441 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.441 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6X8p5xd_IZEm for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD451A03A8 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07DA84DF; Tue, 20 May 2014 19:37:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: IPP@pwg.org Delivered-To: IPP@pwg.org Received: from mail-in5.apple.com (mail-out5.apple.com [17.151.62.27]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1740584DE for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 19:37:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=apple.com; s=mailout2048s; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@apple.com; t=1400614652; x=2264528252; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-id:To:Cc:MIME-version:Content-type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-reply-to:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=QfBpEkgPAPHoqkTMbBdtDStfheiP9P8YwfOuJfnEiHg=; b=D1Ebu1zo7ID98rId2Vwsfc2yxcJ9OLq8RZghSWHtUmzJ78JajSfn1sKE5Jr0SzSj 9hmgBs1ei3ZFy0CebgYc80Y5eZElWx9DncThg5Z0j1N1osaJE/r5SbspzC1DOXU5 gggu21YHnaIfJ0we3iaFX0VOP13IROOVAqNtcS0EDXyl66J7abb7gOntmG0Xz+cu /dY6YHGdtFtVVgycx5mRRJRZepR10o+HxYmgRyBUQS4Gou/6aBMgFmtNqFmQ4DzB MfGUiuQVjyVcQ/kj4ozEhW3btXqMdpuXcNdGWZDFCi7c8x7uH9JMeHLXEmmKejAH TjsPEfjO+Lb7OCE9kGovMg==; Received: from mail-out.apple.com (bramley.apple.com [17.151.62.49]) (using TLS with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail-in5.apple.com (Apple Secure Mail Relay) with SMTP id 6D.0A.11466.CFEAB735; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:37:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from relay8.apple.com ([17.128.113.102]) by local.mail-out.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.30.0 64bit (built Oct 22 2013)) with ESMTP id <0N5W001CP164KLE1@local.mail-out.apple.com> for IPP@pwg.org; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:37:32 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11973e13-f79f46d000002cca-e6-537baefca209 Received: from fenugreek.apple.com (fenugreek.apple.com [17.128.115.97]) (using TLS with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay8.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id FA.3E.05667.CFEAB735; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.153.49.108] (unknown [17.153.49.108]) by fenugreek.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.30.0 64bit (built Oct 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N5W00KVU16I7A10@fenugreek.apple.com> for IPP@pwg.org; Tue, 20 May 2014 12:37:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 15:37:30 -0400 Message-id: <7B1D043A-8E82-4053-9D8F-3D9A25A2A6FD@apple.com> References:

To: Ira McDonald X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupgkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRnG5nqPtnXXWwwcGXqhbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXRvtZ3YIZIRXr1+5ga2Bs8O9i5OSQEDCR+PdgPzOELSZx4d56 ti5GLg4hgZlMEpNOnGACSfAKCEr8mHyPBSIxmUniVss/NpjuWZubWeESv3cvQKg6+OE1C0iV sICjxKmjS5hAEswCUxglDt/cAjaXTUBN4vekPlYQm1MgWKL5dhuYzSKgKrH09kl2EJtZoEzi yJll7BB32Ei8XXSNGWLDQ0aJ7Q0vgBwODhEBLYklzxUhTpKVePShCewKCYF9bBJzF79gnMAo PAvJH7OQHTILbEmSxMJJZxkhbG2JZQtfM88CmsssoCMxeSGaMIT98fwRqFZTiSdvt7NB2NYS P+c8gqpXlJjS/ZB9ASPXKkah3MTMHN3MPFO9xIKCnFS95PzcTYyQqBPewXh6ldUhRgEORiUe Xo+C6mAh1sSy4srcQ4zSHCxK4rySOkAhgfTEktTs1NSC1KL4otKc1OJDjEwcnFINjIr3l4XV /PDN1aj4NvGZoPqyJe+38bEKzlxWPs1x88SHcSrTOZlmtUj3ph2e12mqsjHnlu7GnXx7Flj9 +nGlMPhEalrVyu8lZrdLZi73EvVZfMq2mmEWU4ZpjW/JypsKDicOMRezMJ1rehd3Vf7FCfuY Gwmyfmw8J0NKZnfO+7joufJHEfff/5VYijMSDbWYi4oTAbuYr/ybAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrFLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FCcqPtnXXWwwaOv1hbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXRvtZ3YIZIRXr1+5ga2Bs8O9i5OSQEDCRmLW5mRXCFpO4cG89 WxcjF4eQwGQmiccP17DDOQc/vGYBqRIWcJQ4dXQJE4jNK6AncebsL7AiZoEpjBKHb24BS7AJ qEn8ntQHNpZTIFii+XYbmM0ioCqx9PZJdhCbWaBM4siZZewQg2wk3i66xgyx7SGjxPaGF0AO B4eIgJbEkueKEOfJSjz60MQygZF/FpLds5DtngU2N0li4aSzjBC2tsSyha+ZZwGNYhbQkZi8 EE0Ywv54/ghUq6nEk7fb2SBsa4mfcx5B1StKTOl+yL6AkWsVo0BRak5ipYVeYkFBTqpecn7u JkZwLBSm7WBsWm51iFGAg1GJh3dBUXWwEGtiWXFl7iFGFaARjzasvsAoxZKXn5eqJMKbugwo zZuSWFmVWpQfX1Sak1p8iFGag0VJnHeaTXGwkEB6YklqdmpqQWoRTJaJg1OqgfGWyIcve3n3 bDWuYF7pvDSo7e8ZnluLN8ZHJF9zv8265WSe1ITpHAsX+VhsttEOnBAy992mLZ8vGt9ubUjQ eJj3V/LOj/Bfb99XHb2qpRo+r3vy/Hsrrq0p3m7jtjpHLdQ9lembeoZzxY5p2no/vhf2HJR9 oOY8XUN9zoq/e0U1Ph9w//1EYP9TJZbijERDLeai4kQAcVAmDI0CAAA= Cc: "IPP@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1473153679==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1473153679== Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5E89FC7C-5287-48B8-8FD5-C8A12770CC16"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_5E89FC7C-5287-48B8-8FD5-C8A12770CC16 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0547322A-075D-4805-8176-DF549C3B4E6C" --Apple-Mail=_0547322A-075D-4805-8176-DF549C3B4E6C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ira, On May 19, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Ira McDonald = wrote: > ... > Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time attribute should have > the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP=20 > Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to > be an oversight in these specs. I think you mean "printer-current-time", right? Yes, it is probably an oversight, but probably not critical since = Clients don't care so much about the current time as they do the time = when something happens. Relative printer time can be calculated using = printer-up-time. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Apple-Mail=_0547322A-075D-4805-8176-DF549C3B4E6C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Ira,

On May 19, 2014, at 11:23 AM, = Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:

...
Obviously, the underlying = printer-date-time attribute should have
the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP =
Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me = to
be an oversight in these = specs.

= I think you mean "printer-current-time", = right?

Yes, it is probably an oversight, but = probably not critical since Clients don't care so much about the current = time as they do the time when something happens. Relative printer = time can be calculated using printer-up-time.

_________________________________________________________
Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

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<7B1D043A-8E82-4053-9D8F-3D9A25A2A6FD@apple.com> From: Ira McDonald Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 15:58:42 -0400 Message-ID: To: Michael Sweet Cc: "IPP@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1320045481==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1320045481== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301cc29abff08904f9da4f2d --20cf301cc29abff08904f9da4f2d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Mike, Yes, I did mean "printer-current-time" (a terribly obscure name). But relative time isn't relevant for "printer-config-change-date-time", right (requires real clock date/time)? Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Ira, > > On May 19, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Ira McDonald > wrote: > > ... > Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time attribute should have > the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP > Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to > be an oversight in these specs. > > > I think you mean "printer-current-time", right? > > Yes, it is probably an oversight, but probably not critical since Clients > don't care so much about the current time as they do the time when > something happens. Relative printer time can be calculated using > printer-up-time. > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > --20cf301cc29abff08904f9da4f2d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mike,

Yes, I did = mean "printer-current-time" (a terribly obscure name).

<= br>But relative time isn't relevant for "printer-config-change-dat= e-time",

right (requires real clock date/time)?

Cheers,

= - Ira

<= div class=3D"gmail_extra">

Ira McDon= ald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Op= en Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair -= IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IP= P & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://si= tes.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http:/= /sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: bluero= ofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0= 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI= 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Michael= Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

Ira,

On May 19, 2014,= at 11:23 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

...
Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time attribut= e should have
the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP
Everywhe= re, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan.=C2=A0 This appears to me to
be an oversigh= t in these specs.

I think you mean "printer-current-time", right?

Yes, it is probably an oversight, but probably not c= ritical since Clients don't care so much about the current time as they= do the time when something happens. =C2=A0Relative printer time can be cal= culated using printer-up-time.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet,= Senior Printing System=C2=A0Engineer, PWG Chair

--20cf301cc29abff08904f9da4f2d-- --===============1320045481== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1320045481==-- From ChristinaNewton@publicms2.hupliquid.com Tue May 20 13:30:24 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F3D1A0785 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 13:30:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.147 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.147 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, J_CHICKENPOX_34=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_42=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_52=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_64=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_66=0.6, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2q7JhPjwUEnR for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 13:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from publicms2.hupliquid.com (publicms2.hupliquid.com [5.175.175.32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0521A0773 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 13:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 13:30:15 -0700 To: Subject: Arrest Report Generated 05/20/2014 From: Felons in your neighborhood? 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Building distributeIn order to get the stub .exe files, you need to have a Visual Compiler (it is apparently compilable with MinGW as well)hg clone cd distributehg checkout 0.6.27 rem optionally, comment out tag_build and tag_svn_revisionmsvc-bbd is in distribut in pip\This should work, but it is worth noting that this could be extremely dangerous if one doesn't have the expertise or bother to inspect the url-file before executing such a command. Gringo Suave Mar 29 '13 at 21:48 I think the simplicity is worth the risk. We are talking about a hack at python-distribute.org? There is a similar approach with sublime package control. Fernando Macedo Apr 1 '13 at 20:08 1 Yes, I have checked the distribute URL and it is ok (for now at least). The problem is in the general case where the inexperienced run remote executables on recommendation from a forum. It should come at least with a minimal warning. Gringo Suave Apr 3 '13 at 7:46 I agree with you, the real issue is for who execute arbitrary code after read a post. The question is: can you trust me? I'll update the answer to notify the flow of actions being executed. I think that up/down votes can be used as "trust filter" too. Fernando Macedo Apr 3 '13 at 17:36Here's a pure python adaptation onswer which uses curl, and the urlib example above by Fernando. It attempts to adapt to py2 or 3 and issues a usage warning about executing arbitrary code:To use pip, it is not mandatory that you need to install pip in the system directly. You can use it through virtualenv. What you can do is follow these steps:download virtualenv tar.gz file from unzip it with 7zip or some other toolsWe normally need to install python packages for one particular project. So, now create a project folder, lets say file from decompressed folder of virtualenv, and PASTE inside myproject folder Now Create Virtual Environment, lets say myvirtualenv as follows, inside myproject folder:python virtualenv.py myvirtualenvIt will show you:New python executable in Installing setuptoodon Installing pone. Now your virtual environment myvirtualenv is created inside your project folder. You might notice, pip is now installed inside you virtual environment. All you need to do is activate the virtual environment with following command.myvirtualenv\Scripts\activate You will see following in the command prompt:(myvirtualenv) PATH\TO\YOUR\PROJECT\FOLDER>pip install package_name Now you can start using pip, but make sure you have activated the virtualenv looking at the left of your prompt. This is one of the easiest way to install pip i.e. inside virtual environment, but you need to have virtualenv file with you.I had some issues installing in different ways when I followed instructions here. I think it's very tricky to install in every Windows environment in the same way. In my case I need Python 2.6, 2.7 and 3.3 in the same machine for different purposes so that's why I think there're more problems. But the following instructions worked perfectly for me, so might be depending on your environment you should try this one:Also, due to the different environments I found incredible useful to use Virtual Environments, I had websites that use different libraries and it's much better to encapsulate them into a single folder, check out the instructions, briefly if PIP is installed you just install VirtualEnv:pip install virtualenv Into the folder you have all your files run virtualenv venv And seconds later you have a virtual environment with everything in venv folder, to activate it run venv/Scripts/actit (deactivate the environment is easy, use deactivate.bat). Every library you install will end up in ve is some code editors can't recognize this kind of environments, and you will see warnings in your code because imported libraries are not found. Of course there're tricky ways to do it but it would be nice editors keep in mind Virtual Environments are very normal nowadays.The first route requires modifying (or using a pre-modified) image of Leopard that can be installed on a regular PC. This is not as hard as you would think, although your success/effort ratio will depend upon how closely the hardware in your PC matches that in Mac hardware - e.g. if you're running a Core 2 Duo on an Intel Motherboard, with a NVidia graphics card you are laughing. If you're running an AMD machine or something without SSE3 it gets a little more involved.If you (or already own) a vers ion of Leopard then this is a gray area since the Leopard EULA states you may only run it on an "Apple Labeled" machine. As many point out if you stick an Apple sticker on your PC you're probably covered.The second option is the more costly. The EULA for the workstation version of Leopard prevents it from being run under emulation and as a result there's no support in VMWare for this. Leopard server however CAN be run under emulation and can be used for desktop purposes. Leopard server and VMWare are expensive however.If you're interested in option 1) I would suggest starting at Insanelymac and reading the OSx86 sections.I do think you should consider whether the time you will invest is going to be worth the you will save though. It was for me because I enjoy tinkering with this type of stuff and I started during the early iPhone betas, months before their App Store became available. he SDK is only available on OS X, forcing you to use a mac. If you don't want to a mac you can either run OS X on a virtual machine on your windows box, or you can install OS X on your PC.In my experience the virtual machine solution is unusably slow (on a core2 duo laptop with 2G ram). If you feel like trying it search for the torrent. It's probably not worthwhile.The other option is to install OS X on your PC, commonly referred to as a hackintosh. Hackintoshes work quite well - my friend just sold his mac because his Dell quad core hackintosh was actually much faster than the apple hardware (and cost about 1/3). You can find lots of articles on how to do this; here's one on how to install on a Dell Inspirion 1525 laptop: hackbook pro tutorialOf course both of these options are likely counter to some licensing scheme, so proceed at your own risk. Alternatively you could pickup a low-spec Mac Mini from eBay. You don't need much horse power to run the SDK and you can always sell it on later if you decide to stop development or buy a better Mac.Update: You cannot create a Mac OS X Client virtual machine for OS X 10.6 and earlier. Apple does not allow these Client OSes to be virtualized. With Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) onwards, Apple has changed their licensing agreement in regards to virtualization. Source:Most of "so called Windows solutions for IOS development without Mac" require Mac at the end just to sign and send to app store. I checked a few, not all though (who has the time?)At the end it's just too much trouble to learn "their super special easy way to program IOS without Objective-C", they have lots of bugs. Really the goal they are setting is unachievable in my view.Also a lot of time they make you use Objective-C equivalent statements simply in another language. They kind of look the same but there are always subtle differ ences that you have to learn on top of obj-c. Which also makes even less sense, because now instead of learning less you have to learn more. So where is the gain? Also they cost a lot, because they are very hard to develop.Many lack any debugging abilities whatsoever.In my honest opinion, if you are a hard-core IOS developer then for sure buy the best Mac and learn objective-c. It's expensive and takes time, but if it's your path, it's worth it.For an occasional curious guy, it's just easier to rent a remote mac service, like macincloud.com or xcodeor I personally like the second one.Or go with an alternative SDK that has a good debugger, simple API of the language that you know already, and make sure it doesn't require a mac at the end. As an alternative sdk, I liked DragonFireSDK, but I don't use it anymore even though it's C++ API with no obj-c at all, it is very simple and you can at least debug it on their simulator from Visual Studio, but you can't debug on an actual device, and sometimes when you compile with them, you don't know why it didn't compile properly. I tried running a MacOS virtual machine over windows PC, and I couldn't. Any new OSX update basically breaks it, even if you are able to run it in the first place. 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<7B1D043A-8E82-4053-9D8F-3D9A25A2A6FD@apple.com> To: Ira McDonald X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupgkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRnG5npJvzqzrYYMMKYYtj+16yODB6zFs8 nSmAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEr487ObraCQ8EV847uZW9g3OHXxcjJISFgIrFp4RN2CFtM4sK9 9WxdjFwcQgIzmSQWrTkMluAVEJT4MfkeC0RiMpPE1ombWWC6W+4vR0icXPeGDSQB5uxdrQ9i Cws4Spw6uoQJpIhZYAqjxNw325lAEmwCahK/J/WxgticAsESe2YeZASxWQRUJeYv+gMWZxYo kzhyZhnUGTYSe471MkFsu80kcfVtP9BqDg4RAS2JJc8VIS6SlXj0oQnsIgmBQ2wSk2Z0sU5g FJ6F5I1ZyA6ZBbYkSWL/idtQtrbEsoWvmWcBzWUW0JGYvJARVRjC/nj+CFS5qcSTt9vZIGxr iZ9zHkHVK0pM6X7IvoCRaxWjUG5iZo5uZp6RXmJBQU6qXnJ+7iZGSNQJ7mA8vsrqEKMAB6MS D69HQXWwEGtiWXFl7iFGaQ4WJXHe2rtAIYH0xJLU7NTUgtSi+KLSnNTiQ4xMHJxSDYwes7Z3 vn9ceci19oWT4le1HU2HJx94NHNNgVlK7r/fxX22Bxlmfj/uK1bS2CHr+yY3dUM+1527X9QF nfqnzjki+32fnmvJVY3JIczznbvvvuzgdHg1Y+rplZkbvgUeEVh8nDPxyexpsy7O7nyfFG+o 6VPYs+eE3evwuvMWsfF1hrXCTyXSrrYqsRRnJBpqMRcVJwIAnnu3iZsCAAA= X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrFLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FCcqJvzqzrYYP5sdYtj+16yODB6zFs8 nSmAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEr487ObraCQ8EV847uZW9g3OHXxcjJISFgItFyfzkLhC0mceHe erYuRi4OIYHJTBJvLnWzgiTAnL2r9UFsYQFHiVNHlzCB2LwCehJnzv5iB2lgFpjCKDH3zXaw BJuAmsTvSX1gzZwCwRJ7Zh5kBLFZBFQl5i/6AxZnFiiTOHJmGTvEIBuJPcd6mSA232aSuPq2 H+gkDg4RAS2JJc8VIa6TlXj0oYllAiP/LCS7ZyHbPQtsbpLE/hO3oWxtiWULXzPPAhrFLKAj MXkhI6owhP3x/BGoclOJJ2+3s0HY1hI/5zyCqleUmNL9kH0BI9cqRoGi1JzESgu9xIKCnFS9 5PzcTYzgWChM28HYtNzqEKMAB6MSD++CoupgIdbEsuLK3EOMKkAjHm1YfYFRiiUvPy9VSYR3 3iegNG9KYmVValF+fFFpTmrxIUZpDhYlcd5pNsXBQgLpiSWp2ampBalFMFkmDk6pBsZpCqer b3RdFeuUu/2zmUXhl3J0/IfrXwP+bVDf/sc2blWJ0Pmjzf8v2DWvaP7ULnZ1Xlx6XZ5OgWcB Q8fyI6ve+vwrEEj4sEpIOd0tuC1ozq6Hi+6dyMspdV/l1/j7fmBNi0b0h49fNW7wvErqTYq0 z4rXr3B8b92ec3mb3Y2z5y98nKi5s1KJpTgj0VCLuag4EQBGw7eLjQIAAA== Cc: "IPP@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1558163750==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1558163750== Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CC452C28-7FC2-45DF-B65B-7B63ED4AFB26"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_CC452C28-7FC2-45DF-B65B-7B63ED4AFB26 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A8B0063C-BBEA-4433-BFC7-9890353EB271" --Apple-Mail=_A8B0063C-BBEA-4433-BFC7-9890353EB271 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ira, On May 20, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Ira McDonald = wrote: > Hi Mike, >=20 > Yes, I did mean "printer-current-time" (a terribly obscure name). >=20 > But relative time isn't relevant for = "printer-config-change-date-time", > right (requires real clock date/time)? What I mean is that if the printer reports a date/time value then the = Client doesn't need to calculate one using its current date/time less = the difference of printer-up-time and printer-config-change-time. And = similarly it does not need to depend on the printer as the source of the = date/time. _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Apple-Mail=_A8B0063C-BBEA-4433-BFC7-9890353EB271 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Ira,

On May 20, 2014, at 3:58 PM, = Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:

Hi Mike,

Yes, I did = mean "printer-current-time" (a terribly obscure name).

But = relative time isn't relevant for "printer-config-change-date-time",

right (requires real clock = date/time)?

What = I mean is that if the printer reports a date/time value then the Client = doesn't need to calculate one using its current date/time less the = difference of printer-up-time and printer-config-change-time. And = similarly it does not need to depend on the printer as the source of the = date/time.

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Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

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To: Soma Meiyappan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupgkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRnG5npPt7YU2wQcNmK4tj+16yODB6zFs8 nSmAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoErY+/F80wFnf1MFctPNTA3MPZ/Zuxi5OSQEDCRmPXyGiuELSZx 4d56ti5GLg4hgZlMEjf7D7GAJHgFBCV+TL7HApGYzCRx68QuoA4OsO6eFjW4+JK7k1nhnI9P /oKNFRZwlDh1dAkTiM0sMIVRYsrBKhCbTUBN4vekPrBBnAIREo/vBoOEWQRUJdb232GBKC+Q mLCsjRXiCBuJSVu2MEHMX8skcWH6MbAiEQEDiYaH55kgXpCVePShiQXC3scm8XWX8QRG4VlI npiF5AwIO0nibfMZdghbW2LZwtfMELaBxNPOV6yY4voSb97NYYKwTSWevN3OBmFbS/yc84gR wlaUmNL9kH0BI9cqRqHcxMwc3cw8U73EgoKcVL3k/NxNjJCoE97BeHqV1SFGAQ5GJR5ej4Lq YCHWxLLiytxDjNIcLErivKXvgUIC6YklqdmpqQWpRfFFpTmpxYcYmTg4pRoYZz16U3Py98UL M1euulSl5Lr0k8qcua1XNcMKXn/q/jPVkNf1uUnX0u/WGQ+4hKxYbdi2+kyYbuXoWdF0Xe5b 7c1bCy72FzMZmhiz3p3hc2XiL5FX51fI+0dv/MnY9oB3echij4tWUSV2fq8jEiT2CH30Crlm f1+mRbWY6fWFg/8+Shh56cv+UGIpzkg01GIuKk4EACE11o2bAgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrNLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FCcqPtnYU2wwdY9QhbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxt6L55kKOvuZKpafamBuYOz/zNjFyMEhIWAi0dOi1sXICWSK SVy4t56ti5GLQ0hgMpNE699HLHDOxyd/WUGqhAUcJU4dXcIEYvMK6EmcOfuLHcRmFpjCKDHl YBWIzSagJvF7Uh8ryAJOgQiJx3eDQcIsAqoSa/vvsECUF0hMWNbGCjHGRmLSli1MELvWMklc mH4MrEhEwECi4eF5JojrZCUefWhimcDIPwvJ6llIVkPYSRJvm89AxbUlli18zQxhG0g87XzF iimuL/Hm3RwmCNtU4snb7WwQtrXEzzmPGCFsRYkp3Q/ZFzByrWIUKErNSay00EssKMhJ1UvO z93ECI6GwrQdjE3LrQ4xCnAwKvHwLiiqDhZiTSwrrsw9xKgCNOLRhtUXGKVY8vLzUpVEeI2n 1gQL8aYkVlalFuXHF5XmpBYfYpTmYFES5+22BUoJpCeWpGanphakFsFkmTg4pRoYL6gm2n59 3qWsVGags3Wf502hnx15cqraxaf3irtfzZ5WoaagZyF0gGWTz3n16pLJiwIFXn0+u+3igXkK 9m/sDMTkL2qJvJXVXbB2xWHmrgM+drKnDLVuq106f9HH3teF95HK+c0HbZwVD4lvuz5jVezE Ka/Px4rlRHnySMZGaEpwnl7xoTxViaU4I9FQi7moOBEAG9dE544CAAA= Cc: "IPP@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0802702631==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0802702631== Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5EE08ECA-D5F5-4FA3-8453-233303C1CC08"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_5EE08ECA-D5F5-4FA3-8453-233303C1CC08 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EC90247E-DDB9-4463-B2C3-FCE66A548D63" --Apple-Mail=_EC90247E-DDB9-4463-B2C3-FCE66A548D63 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Soma, This is indeed something that needs to be documented in the = implementor's guide, but in most cases the client just needs to see = whether the date/time (or simply the up time in seconds) is different = than last reported, and not if the change is newer. But given that the printer-xxx-change-date-time attributes are required = in IPP Everywhere, I think we still want them required for IPP Scan. On May 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Soma Meiyappan = wrote: > Hi Ira, > =20 > Thank you very much for the summary from the F2F discussions on this = topic. > =20 > My question on the topic for FaxOut stems from the imaginable ways an = IPP client may have been written to be dependent on = printer-config-change-date-time for caching printer confifuation and if = it is a value that may be treated as trusted enough for that purpose. I = am aware that =91no-value=92 is valid for these attributes (incl = printer-current-time); but I am concerned about other valid (but = inaccurate) dateTime values and the implications. > =20 > If =91printer-config-change-date-time=92 is used purely for = informational purposes (as a value to display in a report or a web-page = and not necessarily in caching the printer configuration), I=92ll not be = too concerned. However, could it be used to determine if cached = information about the printer needs to be refreshed? If yes, we may want = to add a note targeted at IPP client writers, in the implementer=92s = guide, that this information MUST not be used for caching printer = capabilities without other precautions including protection against the = possibility of the printer reported time being inaccurate [RFC 2911 does = not place any accuracy requirements] and printer-current-time (and = derived attribute values) going back to the past for a number of = reasons. > =20 > Looking forward to hearing the forum=92s thoughts on the topic. > =20 > Thanks and Regards, > Somasundaram. > =20 > =20 > From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com]=20 > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM > To: Soma Meiyappan; Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler > Cc: IPP@pwg.org > Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification > =20 > Hi Soma, >=20 > Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs. >=20 > We discussed this comment during the Thursday IPP WG session > at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when looking at IPP Scan with > Pete Zehler. > =20 > The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue should be resolved on the=20 > IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the meeting: > =20 > (1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes should remain REQUIRED > (because they satisfy regulatory requirements for a Fax service). >=20 > (2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to either > RECOMMENDED (i.e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL. >=20 > Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14), the attributes > printer-config-change-date-time and printer-state-change-date-time > attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conformance (see notes 2 > and 3 below the table). > =20 > Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time attribute should have > the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP=20 > Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to > be an oversight in these specs. >=20 > Please comment further on this thread, to clarify your thoughts. >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira (co-chair of IPP WG) >=20 >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 > =20 >=20 > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma Meiyappan = wrote: > Hi Pete et al, > =20 > I have a concern about > =20 > printer-config-change-date-time >=20 > printer-state-change-date-time >=20 > =20 > These attributes figure in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The = above attributes require the scan device to have a notion of wall clock = time (whether it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To = increase the chances of making use of that effectively & correctly, all = clients would be required to use this somehow in reference to = printer-current-time and not to the wall-clock time that the client = might know through other sources. That makes me wonder if it is = sufficient to have printer-state-change-time and = printer-config-change-time as required and make xxxx-date-time as = optional. > =20 > I have a similar question on FaxOut; but at least on FaxOut, the = devices are expected to have a notion of wall-clock time although the = point about how clients should use that information with reference to = printer-current-time still seems applicable. > =20 > Regards, > Somasundaram. > =20 > From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of = Zehler, Peter > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM > To: IPP@pwg.org > Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification > =20 > All, > This message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP Scan = Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent = discussions.=20 > =20 > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf =20 > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf =20 > =20 > Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine = for this) and it will be collected and processed as quickly as possible. > Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the = August 2014 F2F. > =20 > Peter Zehler >=20 > Xerox Research Center Webster > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com > Voice: (585) 265-8755 > FAX: (585) 265-7441 > US Mail: Peter Zehler > Xerox Corp. > 800 Phillips Rd. > M/S 128-25E > Webster NY, 14580-9701 > =20 > =20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 > =20 _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Apple-Mail=_EC90247E-DDB9-4463-B2C3-FCE66A548D63 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Soma,

This is indeed something = that needs to be documented in the implementor's guide, but in most = cases the client just needs to see whether the date/time (or simply the = up time in seconds) is different than last reported, and not if the = change is newer.

But given that the = printer-xxx-change-date-time attributes are required in IPP Everywhere, = I think we still want them required for IPP = Scan.

On May 20, 2014, at 11:09 = PM, Soma Meiyappan <Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> wrote:

Hi Ira,

Thank you very much for the summary from the F2F = discussions on this topic.

My question on the topic for FaxOut stems from the = imaginable ways an IPP client may have been written to be dependent on = printer-config-change-date-time for caching printer confifuation and if it is a value that may be = treated as trusted enough for that purpose. I am aware that =91no-value=92= is valid for these attributes (incl printer-current-time); but I am = concerned about other valid (but inaccurate) dateTime values and the implications.

If =91printer-config-change-date-time=92 is used = purely for informational purposes (as a value to display in a report or = a web-page and not necessarily in caching the printer configuration), I=92ll not be too concerned. However, could = it be used to determine if cached information about the printer needs to = be refreshed? If yes, we may want to add a note targeted at IPP client = writers, in the implementer=92s guide, that this information MUST not be used for caching printer capabilities = without other precautions including protection against the possibility = of the printer reported time being inaccurate [RFC 2911 does not place = any accuracy requirements] and printer-current-time (and derived attribute values) going back to the past for a number of = reasons.

Looking forward to hearing the forum=92s thoughts = on the topic.

Thanks and Regards,
Somasundaram.

From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com= ]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM
To: Soma Meiyappan; Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler
Cc: IPP@pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service = specification

Hi Soma,

Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs.

We discussed this comment during the = Thursday IPP WG session

at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when = looking at IPP Scan with

Pete Zehler.

The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue = should be resolved on the
IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the = meeting:

(1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes = should remain REQUIRED

(because they satisfy regulatory = requirements for a Fax service).

(2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to = either

RECOMMENDED = (i.e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL.

Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG = 5100.14), the attributes

printer-config-change-date-time and = printer-state-change-date-time

attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for = conformance (see notes 2

and 3 below the table).

Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time = attribute should have

the same = conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP
Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to
be an oversight in these specs.

Please = comment further on this thread, to clarify your thoughts.

Cheers,

- Ira = (co-chair of IPP WG)

Ira McDonald = (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic<= /a>
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 = 734-944-0094
Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 = 906-494-2434

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma = Meiyappan <Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> = wrote:

Hi Pete et al,

I have a concern about

printer-config-change-date-time =
printer-state-change-date-time =

These attributes figure in the REQUIRED table in = section 4.3. The above attributes require the scan device to have a = notion of wall clock time (whether it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To increase the = chances of making use of that effectively & correctly, all clients = would be required to use this somehow in reference to = printer-current-time and not to the wall-clock time that the client might know through other sources. That makes me wonder if it is = sufficient to have printer-state-change-time and = printer-config-change-time as required and make xxxx-date-time as = optional.

I have a similar question on FaxOut; but at = least on FaxOut, the devices are expected to have a notion of wall-clock = time although the point about how clients should use that information with reference to = printer-current-time still seems applicable.

Regards,
Somasundaram.

From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Zehler, Peter
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM
To: IPP@pwg.org
Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service = specification

All,
This = message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP Scan = Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent = discussions.

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.p= df
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.= pdf

Please send = all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine for this) and = it will be collected and processed as quickly as possible.
Our intent = is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the August 2014 F2F.

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com
Voice: (585) = 265-8755
FAX: (585) = 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
= M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701

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_________________________________________________________
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<41B59AA4-900D-4B85-9A96-90C3CF30290D@apple.com> From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 09:22:10 -0400 Message-ID: To: Michael Sweet Cc: "IPP@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0324305885==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0324305885== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b10cf0d7a129404f9e8e390 --047d7b10cf0d7a129404f9e8e390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike and Soma, Then I maintain that it's an error in IPP Everywhere, FaxOut, and Scan, that the underlying "printer-current-time" (OPTIONAL in RFC 2911 and in IPP/2.0 Second Edition) is not moved to REQUIRED. I consider it an editorial error (i.e., fixable by an errata) as it's an oversight. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Soma, > > This is indeed something that needs to be documented in the implementor's > guide, but in most cases the client just needs to see whether the date/ti= me > (or simply the up time in seconds) is different than last reported, and n= ot > if the change is newer. > > But given that the printer-xxx-change-date-time attributes are required i= n > IPP Everywhere, I think we still want them required for IPP Scan. > > > On May 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Soma Meiyappan > wrote: > > Hi Ira, > > > > Thank you very much for the summary from the F2F discussions on this > topic. > > > > My question on the topic for FaxOut stems from the imaginable ways an IPP > client may have been written to be dependent on > printer-config-change-date-time for caching printer confifuation and if = it > is a value that may be treated as trusted enough for that purpose. I am > aware that =E2=80=98no-value=E2=80=99 is valid for these attributes (incl > printer-current-time); but I am concerned about other valid (but > inaccurate) dateTime values and the implications. > > > > If =E2=80=98printer-config-change-date-time=E2=80=99 is used purely for i= nformational > purposes (as a value to display in a report or a web-page and not > necessarily in caching the printer configuration), I=E2=80=99ll not be to= o > concerned. However, could it be used to determine if cached information > about the printer needs to be refreshed? If yes, we may want to add a not= e > targeted at IPP client writers, in the implementer=E2=80=99s guide, that = this > information MUST not be used for caching printer capabilities without oth= er > precautions including protection against the possibility of the printer > reported time being inaccurate [RFC 2911 does not place any accuracy > requirements] and printer-current-time (and derived attribute values) goi= ng > back to the past for a number of reasons. > > > > Looking forward to hearing the forum=E2=80=99s thoughts on the topic. > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > Somasundaram. > > > > > > *From:* Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] > > *Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM > *To:* Soma Meiyappan; Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler > *Cc:* IPP@pwg.org > *Subject:* Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification > > > > Hi Soma, > > Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs. > > We discussed this comment during the Thursday IPP WG session > > at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when looking at IPP Scan with > > Pete Zehler. > > > > The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue should be resolved on the > IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the meeting: > > > > (1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes should remain REQUIRED > > (because they satisfy regulatory requirements for a Fax service). > > > (2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to either > > RECOMMENDED (i.e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL. > > Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14), the attributes > > printer-config-change-date-time and printer-state-change-date-time > > attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conformance (see notes 2 > > and 3 below the table). > > > > Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time attribute should have > > the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP > Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to > be an oversight in these specs. > > Please comment further on this thread, to clarify your thoughts. > > Cheers, > > - Ira (co-chair of IPP WG) > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma Meiyappan < > Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> wrote: > > Hi Pete et al, > > > > I have a concern about > > > > printer-config-change-date-time > > printer-state-change-date-time > > > > These attributes figure in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The above > attributes require the scan device to have a notion of wall clock time > (whether it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To increas= e > the chances of making use of that effectively & correctly, all clients > would be required to use this somehow in reference to printer-current-tim= e > and not to the wall-clock time that the client might know through other > sources. That makes me wonder if it is sufficient to have > printer-state-change-time and printer-config-change-time as required and > make xxxx-date-time as optional. > > > > I have a similar question on FaxOut; but at least on FaxOut, the devices > are expected to have a notion of wall-clock time although the point about > how clients should use that information with reference to > printer-current-time still seems applicable. > > > > Regards, > > Somasundaram. > > > > *From:* ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] *On Behalf Of *Z= ehler, > Peter > *Sent:* Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM > *To:* IPP@pwg.org > *Subject:* [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification > > > > All, > > This message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP Scan > Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent > discussions. > > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf > > http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf > > > > Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine fo= r > this) and it will be collected and processed as quickly as possible. > > Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the > August 2014 F2F. > > > > Peter Zehler > > Xerox Research Center Webster > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com > Voice: (585) 265-8755 > FAX: (585) 265-7441 > US Mail: Peter Zehler > Xerox Corp. > 800 Phillips Rd. > M/S 128-25E > Webster NY, 14580-9701 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > --047d7b10cf0d7a129404f9e8e390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mike and Soma,

Then I = maintain that it's an error in IPP Everywhere, FaxOut, and Scan,
tha= t the underlying "printer-current-time" (OPTIONAL in RFC 2911 and=

in IPP/2.0 Second Edition) is not moved to REQUIRED.=C2=A0 I consider= it
an editorial error (i.e., fixable by an errata) as it's an overs= ight.

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software A= rchitect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux = Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<= br> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated E= xpert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto: blue= roofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094=
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434=

<= /div>

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Michael= Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

Soma,

This is indeed= something that needs to be documented in the implementor's guide, but = in most cases the client just needs to see whether the date/time (or simply= the up time in seconds) is different than last reported, and not if the ch= ange is newer.

But given that the printer-xxx-change-date-time attribu= tes are required in IPP Everywhere, I think we still want them required for= IPP Scan.

On May 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Soma Meiyappan <Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> = wrote:

Hi Ira,
=C2=A0=

Thank you very much for t= he summary from the F2F discussions on this topic.
= =C2=A0
My quest= ion on the topic for FaxOut stems from the imaginable ways an IPP client ma= y have been written to be dependent on printer-config-change-date-time for caching printer confifuation =C2=A0and if it is a value that may be treate= d as trusted enough for that purpose. I am aware that =E2=80=98no-value=E2= =80=99 is valid for these attributes (incl printer-current-time); but I am = concerned about other valid (but inaccurate) dateTime values and the implications.
=C2=A0
If =E2=80=98printer-config-change-date-time=E2=80=99 i= s used purely for informational purposes (as a value to display in a report= or a web-page and not necessarily in caching the printer configuration), I=E2=80=99ll not be too concerned. However, co= uld it be used to determine if cached information about the printer needs t= o be refreshed? If yes, we may want to add a note targeted at IPP client wr= iters, in the implementer=E2=80=99s guide, that this information MUST not be used for caching printer capabilities without= other precautions including protection against the possibility of the prin= ter reported time being inaccurate [RFC 2911 does not place any accuracy re= quirements] and printer-current-time (and derived attribute values) going back to the past for a number of reas= ons.
=C2=A0<= /span>
Looking forward= to hearing the forum=E2=80=99s thoughts on the topic.=

=C2=A0
Thanks and Regards,=

Somasundaram.
=C2=A0

=C2=A0
From: Ira McDonald [= mailto:blueroo= fmusic@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM
To: Soma Meiyappan; Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler
Cc: IPP@pwg.org=
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification=
=C2=A0

Hi Soma,

Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs.

We discussed this comment during the Thursday = IPP WG session

at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when looking= at IPP Scan with

Pete Zehler.

=C2=A0

The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue shou= ld be resolved on the
IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the meeting:<= u>

=C2=A0

(1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes sh= ould remain REQUIRED

(because they satisfy regulatory requirements = for a Fax service).

(2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to either

RECOMMENDED (i.= e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL.

Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14= ), the attributes

printer-config-change-date-time and printer-sta= te-change-date-time

attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conforma= nce (see notes 2

and 3 below the table).

=C2=A0

Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time att= ribute should have

the same conform= ance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP
Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan.=C2=A0 This appears to me to
be an oversight in these specs.

Please comment = further on this thread, to clarify your thoughts.

Cheers,

- Ira (co-chair= of IPP WG)

Ira McDonald (Mu= sician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc=
mailto: bluero= ofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094<= br> Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

=C2=A0

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma Meiyappa= n <Soma= .Meiyappan@conexant.com> wrote:

Hi Pete et al,
= =C2=A0
I have a concern about

=C2=A0
printer-config-change-date-tim= e
printer-stat= e-change-date-time

=C2=A0
These attribu= tes figure in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The above attributes requi= re the scan device to have a notion of wall clock time (whether it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To increase the chan= ces of making use of that effectively & correctly, all clients would be= required to use this somehow in reference to printer-current-time and not = to the wall-clock time that the client might know through other sources. That makes me wonder if it is sufficient= to have printer-state-change-time and printer-config-change-time as requir= ed and make xxxx-date-time as optional.
=C2=A0
I have a similar question on FaxOut;= but at least on FaxOut, the devices are expected to have a notion of wall-= clock time although the point about how clients should use that information with reference to printer-current-time= still seems applicable.
=C2=A0
Regards,
Somasundaram.=
=C2=A0

From: ipp-bounces@pwg.or= g [mailto:ipp-= bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Zehler, Peter
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM
To: IPP@pwg.org=
Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification=

=C2=A0
= All,
This message initiates the IPP= Working Group last call of the IPP Scan Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent discus= sions.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-= 20140509.pdf =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-= ippscan10-20140509.pdf =C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing= list (reply-all works fine for this) and it will be collected and processe= d as quickly as possible.
Our intent is to move IPP Scan Ser= vice to PWG Formal Vote before the August 2014 F2F.
=C2=A0
Pet= er Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xe= rox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701
=C2=A0
=C2=A0

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
http= s://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

=C2=A0

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet,= Senior Printing System=C2=A0Engineer, PWG Chair

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<41B59AA4-900D-4B85-9A96-90C3CF30290D@apple.com> In-Reply-To: <41B59AA4-900D-4B85-9A96-90C3CF30290D@apple.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [182.55.105.119] x-forefront-prvs: 0218A015FA x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(428001)(252514010)(45984002)(243025003)(199002)(189002)(48214007)(377454003)(24454002)(20776003)(81542001)(15975445006)(79102001)(15202345003)(4396001)(64706001)(76576001)(74502001)(87936001)(19609705001)(99286001)(19580395003)(74662001)(99396002)(21056001)(85852003)(77982001)(16236675002)(86362001)(76176999)(83322001)(77096999)(19300405004)(19273905006)(33646001)(2656002)(54356999)(19580405001)(74316001)(83072002)(81342001)(50986999)(66066001)(46102001)(19625215002)(80022001)(101416001)(76482001)(21314002)(16351025005)(24736002)(563064011); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:DM2PR08MB702; H:DM2PR08MB702.namprd08.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (: conexant.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com; MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: conexant.com Cc: "IPP@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1175957447==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1175957447== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_23da72070fb54b2f99a31b9d284a884aDM2PR08MB702namprd08pro_" --_000_23da72070fb54b2f99a31b9d284a884aDM2PR08MB702namprd08pro_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike, Making printer-xxx-date-time & printer-current-time REQUIRED for consistenc= y across the 3 primary specifications will be fine as long as devices that = do not have a notion of calendar time can provide "no-value" as RFC 2911 al= lows for "printer-current-time" (and attributes whose value is derived from= that). But, that is effectively making it STRONGLY RECOMMENDED, in princip= le, isn't it? Personally, I feel that making something REQUIRED typically sets an expecta= tion on the validity/accuracy of the data that the attribute provides altho= ugh there is no explicit claim/requirement on the validity/accuracy made in= the underlying specification. Thanks and Regards, Somasundaram. From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:54 PM To: Soma Meiyappan Cc: Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler; IPP@pwg.org Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification Soma, This is indeed something that needs to be documented in the implementor's g= uide, but in most cases the client just needs to see whether the date/time = (or simply the up time in seconds) is different than last reported, and not= if the change is newer. But given that the printer-xxx-change-date-time attributes are required in = IPP Everywhere, I think we still want them required for IPP Scan. On May 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Soma Meiyappan > wrote: Hi Ira, Thank you very much for the summary from the F2F discussions on this topic. My question on the topic for FaxOut stems from the imaginable ways an IPP c= lient may have been written to be dependent on printer-config-change-date-t= ime for caching printer confifuation and if it is a value that may be trea= ted as trusted enough for that purpose. I am aware that 'no-value' is valid= for these attributes (incl printer-current-time); but I am concerned about= other valid (but inaccurate) dateTime values and the implications. If 'printer-config-change-date-time' is used purely for informational purpo= ses (as a value to display in a report or a web-page and not necessarily in= caching the printer configuration), I'll not be too concerned. However, co= uld it be used to determine if cached information about the printer needs t= o be refreshed? If yes, we may want to add a note targeted at IPP client wr= iters, in the implementer's guide, that this information MUST not be used f= or caching printer capabilities without other precautions including protect= ion against the possibility of the printer reported time being inaccurate [= RFC 2911 does not place any accuracy requirements] and printer-current-time= (and derived attribute values) going back to the past for a number of reas= ons. Looking forward to hearing the forum's thoughts on the topic. Thanks and Regards, Somasundaram. From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM To: Soma Meiyappan; Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler Cc: IPP@pwg.org Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification Hi Soma, Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs. We discussed this comment during the Thursday IPP WG session at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when looking at IPP Scan with Pete Zehler. The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue should be resolved on the IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the meeting: (1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes should remain REQUIRED (because they satisfy regulatory requirements for a Fax service). (2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to either RECOMMENDED (i.e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL. Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14), the attributes printer-config-change-date-time and printer-state-change-date-time attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conformance (see notes 2 and 3 below the table). Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time attribute should have the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to be an oversight in these specs. Please comment further on this thread, to clarify your thoughts. Cheers, - Ira (co-chair of IPP WG) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma Meiyappan > wrote: Hi Pete et al, I have a concern about printer-config-change-date-time printer-state-change-date-time These attributes figure in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The above att= ributes require the scan device to have a notion of wall clock time (whethe= r it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To increase the cha= nces of making use of that effectively & correctly, all clients would be re= quired to use this somehow in reference to printer-current-time and not to = the wall-clock time that the client might know through other sources. That = makes me wonder if it is sufficient to have printer-state-change-time and p= rinter-config-change-time as required and make xxxx-date-time as optional. I have a similar question on FaxOut; but at least on FaxOut, the devices ar= e expected to have a notion of wall-clock time although the point about how= clients should use that information with reference to printer-current-time= still seems applicable. Regards, Somasundaram. From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@p= wg.org] On Behalf Of Zehler, Peter Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM To: IPP@pwg.org Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification All, This message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP Scan Serv= ice specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent discussio= ns. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine for = this) and it will be collected and processed as quickly as possible. Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the August= 2014 F2F. Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701 _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --_000_23da72070fb54b2f99a31b9d284a884aDM2PR08MB702namprd08pro_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mike,

<= /p>

Making printer-xxx-date-t= ime & printer-current-time REQUIRED for consistency across the 3 primar= y specifications will be fine as long as devices that do not have a notion of calendar time can provide “no-value” as RFC 2= 911 allows for “printer-current-time” (and attributes whose val= ue is derived from that). But, that is effectively making it STRONGLY RECOM= MENDED, in principle, isn’t it?

<= /p>

Personally, I feel that m= aking something REQUIRED typically sets an expectation on the validity/accu= racy of the data that the attribute provides although there is no explicit claim/requirement on the validity/accuracy made in the unde= rlying specification.

<= /p>

Thanks and Regards,<= /o:p>

Somasundaram.<= /span>

<= /p>

From: Michae= l Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:54 PM
To: Soma Meiyappan
Cc: Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler; IPP@pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification

Soma,

This is indeed something that needs to be documented= in the implementor's guide, but in most cases the client just needs to see= whether the date/time (or simply the up time in seconds) is different than= last reported, and not if the change is newer.

But given that the printer-xxx-change-date-time attr= ibutes are required in IPP Everywhere, I think we still want them required = for IPP Scan.

On May 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Soma Meiyappan <Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com= > wrote:

Hi Ira,=

<= /p>
Thank you very much for t= he summary from the F2F discussions on this topic.

<= /p>
My question on the topic = for FaxOut stems from the imaginable ways an IPP client may have been writt= en to be dependent on printer-config-change-date-time for caching printer confifuation and if it is a value that may be treate= d as trusted enough for that purpose. I am aware that ‘no-value’= ; is valid for these attributes (incl printer-current-time); but I am conce= rned about other valid (but inaccurate) dateTime values and the implications.

<= /p>
If ‘printer-config-= change-date-time’ is used purely for informational purposes (as a val= ue to display in a report or a web-page and not necessarily in caching the printer configuration), I’ll not be too concerned. However, coul= d it be used to determine if cached information about the printer needs to = be refreshed? If yes, we may want to add a note targeted at IPP client writ= ers, in the implementer’s guide, that this information MUST not be used for caching printer capabilities without= other precautions including protection against the possibility of the prin= ter reported time being inaccurate [RFC 2911 does not place any accuracy re= quirements] and printer-current-time (and derived attribute values) going back to the past for a number of reas= ons.

<= /p>
Looking forward to hearin= g the forum’s thoughts on the topic.

<= /p>
Thanks and Regards,

Somasundaram.=

<= /p>
<= /p>
From: Ira Mc= Donald [mail= to:blueroofmusic@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM
To: Soma Meiyappan; Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler
Cc: IPP@pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification

Hi Soma,

Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs.

We discussed this comment during the Thursday IPP WG= session

at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when looking at IP= P Scan with

Pete Zehler.

The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue should be = resolved on the
IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the meeting:

(1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes should r= emain REQUIRED

(because they satisfy regulatory requirements for a = Fax service).

(2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to either<= /o:p>

RECOMMENDED (i.e., be= st practice) or simply OPTIONAL.

Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14), th= e attributes

printer-config-change-date-time and printer-state-ch= ange-date-time

attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conformance (= see notes 2

and 3 below the table).

Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time attribut= e should have

the same conformance = level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP
Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to
be an oversight in these specs.

Please comment furthe= r on this thread, to clarify your thoughts.

Cheers,

- Ira (co-chair of IP= P WG)

Ira McDonald (Musicia= n / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc=
mailto: bluero= ofmusic@gmail.com
Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094=
Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma Meiyappan <= ;Soma.Meiy= appan@conexant.com> wrote:

Hi Pete et al,

I have a concern about

printer-config-change-date-time =

printer-state-change-date-time <= o:p>

These attributes figure in the REQUI= RED table in section 4.3. The above attributes require the scan device to h= ave a notion of wall clock time (whether it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To increase the chan= ces of making use of that effectively & correctly, all clients would be= required to use this somehow in reference to printer-current-time and not = to the wall-clock time that the client might know through other sources. That makes me wonder if it is sufficient= to have printer-state-change-time and printer-config-change-time as requir= ed and make xxxx-date-time as optional.

I have a similar question on FaxOut;= but at least on FaxOut, the devices are expected to have a notion of wall-= clock time although the point about how clients should use that information with reference to printer-current-time= still seems applicable.

Regards,

Somasundaram.

From: ipp-bounces@pwg.or= g [mailto:ipp-= bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Zehler, Peter
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM
To: IPP@pwg.org=
Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification

All,

This message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP = Scan Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent discus= sions.

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-201405= 09.pdf

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-2014= 0509.pdf

Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works = fine for this) and it will be collected and processed as quickly as possibl= e.

Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the August 2014 F2F.

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com
Voice: = (585) 265-8755
FAX: = (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
http= s://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

_____________________________________________= ____________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

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Wed, 21 May 2014 06:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.153.49.108] (unknown [17.153.49.108]) by fenugreek.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.30.0 64bit (built Oct 22 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0N5X00JCBFEGOA10@fenugreek.apple.com> for ipp@pwg.org; Wed, 21 May 2014 06:42:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 09:42:16 -0400 To: "" Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrPLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON3OSNdqbU2wwY9tIhbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxskJN5gKFjtWPDw9n7mB8ZttFyMnh4SAicT12VtYIWwxiQv3 1rOB2EICs5gk5jw2ArF5BQQlfky+x9LFyAUUn8wkcWbRG6AGDrDmrrWRcPFpDSsRij5vWccO 0s0moCbxe1IfK0iCWWAKo8TinY/A1rEIqEo8a/jOAmILC4RI3N01GywuIqAo8XPadkaI1TYS z1evYoI4T1bi0YcmsA0SAh1sEusPXWecwCgwC8mJs5AtAUkwC2hLLFv4mnkW0LnMAjoSkxcy QoRNJZ683c4GYVtL/JzzCCquKDGl+yH7Akb2VYxCuYmZObqZeUZ6iQUFOal6yfm5mxghIS64 g/H4KqtDjAIcjEo8vB4F1cFCrIllxZW5hxilOViUxHlr7wKFBNITS1KzU1MLUovii0pzUosP MTJxcEo1MN78ME8zit0sNWfRlG28HTFxJy6yxmfaXr+18UHFijm828svxp+LXq48336/zRnJ lxynPfgflYqJbn2yZ5tLYVScRe98Zr33V9b8mqGl9/OHPXdMyc9MRkvBSVWCsd4/rqVpPdhq dim46rPJ8g+152w/WYWs+18386G9y9/JTinntO6IZW6I6VZiKc5INNRiLipOBABYyMI1UgIA AA== X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrELMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FCcqKu7tibY4MtyK4tj+16yODB6zFs8 nSmAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEr4+SEG0wFix0rHp6ez9zA+M22i5GDQ0LARKJrbWQXIyeQKSZx 4d56ti5GLg4hgclMEhvPb0JwPm9Zxw5SxSagJvF7Uh8rSIJZYAqjxOKdj1hBEiwCqhLPGr6z gNjCAiESd3fNBouLCChK/Jy2nRHE5hWwkXi+ehUThK0ncebsL3aI1bISjz40sUxg5JmFbO4s JHUgNrOAtsSyha+ZZwFdziygIzF5ISNE2FTiydvtbBC2tcTPOY+g4ooSU7ofsi9gZF/FKFCU mpNYaa6XWFCQk6qXnJ+7iREceoWpOxgbl1sdYhTgYFTi4fUoqA4WYk0sK67MPcSoAjTi0YbV FxilWPLy81KVRHiNp9YEC/GmJFZWpRblxxeV5qQWH2KU5mBREuetswVKCaQnlqRmp6YWpBbB ZJk4OKUaGI/MPOU5KzfldZ5Smb/HhHX79plPEln9sX36jJdWZ3jt97xkWZUlZfI5PrnCJeOb 0ZEp6/9YsC5l7eJo2jupXMm1yvNeBscMs44TEx9nHClYY7bjrtKdivdPp4isKlJY9Sblq2F5 2xErt2RWrd+df1JPnJvELq80Xe3rLeW/FYePPq/eWiffO1GJpTgj0VCLuag4EQCmi6r/RQIA AA== Subject: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or IPP Everywhere specs X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1057004608==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1057004608== Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9B03785B-DC72-4068-B67A-BDBB58CF7BA2"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_9B03785B-DC72-4068-B67A-BDBB58CF7BA2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All, It has come to my attention that neither the IPP Everywhere nor the PWG = Raster Format specs explicitly call out required values for the = "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute. This attribute specifies = whether the Printer can override embedded job ticket information (such = as media size) when requested in a Job via the "ipp-attribute-fidelity" = or "job-mandatory-attributes" Job Template attributes. Generally speaking, Printers SHOULD support PDL override for the = standard PDLs in IPP Everywhere, including PWG Raster, JPEG, and PDF. = Typically this means forcing prints to a single media/size or forcing = simplex/duplex output, and is particularly important for JPEG. My recommendation is for us to add the following conformance statement = in a future revision of the IPP Everywhere specification: pdl-override-supported (type2 keyword) When reporting capabilities for the 'application/pdf', 'image/jpeg', = or 'image/pwg-raster' MIME media types, Printers MUST report either 'attempted' or = 'guaranteed' for the "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute,=20 Thoughts? _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Apple-Mail=_9B03785B-DC72-4068-B67A-BDBB58CF7BA2 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIPJTCCBN0w ggPFoAMCAQICEHGS++YZX6xNEoV0cTSiGKcwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwezELMAkGA1UEBhMCR0Ix GzAZBgNVBAgMEkdyZWF0ZXIgTWFuY2hlc3RlcjEQMA4GA1UEBwwHU2FsZm9yZDEaMBgGA1UECgwR 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<41B59AA4-900D-4B85-9A96-90C3CF30290D@apple.com> To: Ira McDonald X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupkkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRnG5nqPtobU2wwYTtzBbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxvs/T9kKHi1lqrh4SaiBcUcrUxcjJ4eEgInEm0Mv2SFsMYkL 99azdTFycQgJzGKSmPbjE1iCV0BQ4sfkeywgtpDAJCaJu6stuxg5wJqf3JKGqJ/MJPFq+XxW OGdZ+3uwDcICjhKnji5hAkkwC0xhlPjY2As2iU1ATeL3pD5WEJtTIFji3K1nbCA2i4CqxNLr m8BqmAXKJI6cWQZ1hY3Ezynb2CE2LGeWeN50kwXkDBEBLYklzxUhXpCVePShiQWkRkLgEJvE 2pZljBMYhWch+WIWskNmgS1Jkujb38EEYWtLLFv4mhnCNpB42vmKFVNcX+LNuzlQ9aYST95u Z4OwrSV+znnECGErSkzpfsi+gJFrFaNQbmJmjm5mnoleYkFBTqpecn7uJkZI3AntYDy1yuoQ owAHoxIP74Ki6mAh1sSy4srcQ4zSHCxK4rxl74FCAumJJanZqakFqUXxRaU5qcWHGJk4OKUa GCNL4pSOXLO1/Lf326+9DcqumzaWirz1jg2R4lgmO9Vk0QfmCUu+/Zbov/C/98+CPr+s/Ly1 rSteHtOOW9b4j283S8CM5kMrKq6tXFeaNe1fyPS3Ik0e2tvfyWfqTV9z+O6ly9ksHlPytwfO 4zY4vemL9R0j86Ad9xbWequoFa/7teDuopx+vUAlluKMREMt5qLiRAAd04ABnAIAAA== X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FCcqHthfk2wwZIVWhbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxvs/T9kKHi1lqrh4SaiBcUcrUxcjB4eEgInEk1vSXYycQKaY xIV769m6GLk4hAQmM0l82f+RCc5Z1v6eCaRKWMBR4tTRJWA2r4CexJmzv9hBipgFpjBKfGzs ZQFJsAmoSfye1McKYnMKBEucu/WMDcRmEVCVWHp9E1gNs0CZxJEzy9ghBtlI/JyyjR1i23Jm iedNN1lAzhMR0JJY8lwR4jxZiUcfmlgmMPLPQrJ7FrLds8DmJkn07e9ggrC1JZYtfM0MYRtI PO18xYopri/x5t0cqHpTiSdvt7NB2NYSP+c8YoSwFSWmdD9kX8DItYpRoCg1J7HSTC+xoCAn VS85P3cTIzgeCqN2MDYstzrEKMDBqMTDa5FUHSzEmlhWXJl7iFEFaMSjDasvMEqx5OXnpSqJ 8BpPrQkW4k1JrKxKLcqPLyrNSS0+xCjNwaIkzlupD5QSSE8sSc1OTS1ILYLJMnFwSjUwMr0M Yt3aXO318f5S1yp1k3kfzZWT/jOe0H5laxHrvFTXU2kN/zzJ8vCm/QrvQ5d8rF79Iv3InGCT K9H3tZOURdaXvL2zzaJ0V7fY04DbYUeMCp6v3GbzxGHX5HymT67MC0M+rmcTvL2V+7+eaP2K 7PaOiqc7+utSL26/PNW4K2VjseE/ASVRJZbijERDLeai4kQAxxRv1o8CAAA= Cc: "IPP@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0524149693==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0524149693== Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_010934CC-109C-4F7C-9CBB-D5C3F0BF89CE"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_010934CC-109C-4F7C-9CBB-D5C3F0BF89CE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_01173CFD-9E41-49EA-ADD8-FFD599E1A607" --Apple-Mail=_01173CFD-9E41-49EA-ADD8-FFD599E1A607 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Ira, Given that it changes the conformance requirements, I don't think it can = be done as an errata. However, we *could* make it RECOMMENDED (much = like we did when we published IPP/2.0 Second Edition for a number of = attributes...) But we should definitely add this to the list of future changes for IPP = Everywhere 2.0 / IPP Multifunction. On May 21, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Ira McDonald = wrote: > Hi Mike and Soma, >=20 > Then I maintain that it's an error in IPP Everywhere, FaxOut, and = Scan, > that the underlying "printer-current-time" (OPTIONAL in RFC 2911 and > in IPP/2.0 Second Edition) is not moved to REQUIRED. I consider it > an editorial error (i.e., fixable by an errata) as it's an oversight. >=20 > Cheers, > - Ira >=20 >=20 > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Michael Sweet = wrote: > Soma, >=20 > This is indeed something that needs to be documented in the = implementor's guide, but in most cases the client just needs to see = whether the date/time (or simply the up time in seconds) is different = than last reported, and not if the change is newer. >=20 > But given that the printer-xxx-change-date-time attributes are = required in IPP Everywhere, I think we still want them required for IPP = Scan. >=20 >=20 > On May 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Soma Meiyappan = wrote: >=20 >> Hi Ira, >>=20 >> =20 >> Thank you very much for the summary from the F2F discussions on this = topic. >>=20 >> =20 >> My question on the topic for FaxOut stems from the imaginable ways an = IPP client may have been written to be dependent on = printer-config-change-date-time for caching printer confifuation and if = it is a value that may be treated as trusted enough for that purpose. I = am aware that =91no-value=92 is valid for these attributes (incl = printer-current-time); but I am concerned about other valid (but = inaccurate) dateTime values and the implications. >>=20 >> =20 >> If =91printer-config-change-date-time=92 is used purely for = informational purposes (as a value to display in a report or a web-page = and not necessarily in caching the printer configuration), I=92ll not be = too concerned. However, could it be used to determine if cached = information about the printer needs to be refreshed? If yes, we may want = to add a note targeted at IPP client writers, in the implementer=92s = guide, that this information MUST not be used for caching printer = capabilities without other precautions including protection against the = possibility of the printer reported time being inaccurate [RFC 2911 does = not place any accuracy requirements] and printer-current-time (and = derived attribute values) going back to the past for a number of = reasons. >>=20 >> =20 >> Looking forward to hearing the forum=92s thoughts on the topic. >>=20 >> =20 >> Thanks and Regards, >>=20 >> Somasundaram. >>=20 >> =20 >> =20 >> From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com]=20 >> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM >> To: Soma Meiyappan; Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler >> Cc: IPP@pwg.org >> Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Hi Soma, >>=20 >> Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs. >>=20 >> We discussed this comment during the Thursday IPP WG session >>=20 >> at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when looking at IPP Scan with >>=20 >> Pete Zehler. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue should be resolved on the=20= >> IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the meeting: >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> (1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes should remain REQUIRED >>=20 >> (because they satisfy regulatory requirements for a Fax service). >>=20 >>=20 >> (2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to either >>=20 >> RECOMMENDED (i.e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL. >>=20 >> Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14), the attributes >>=20 >> printer-config-change-date-time and printer-state-change-date-time >>=20 >> attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conformance (see notes 2 >>=20 >> and 3 below the table). >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time attribute should have >>=20 >> the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP=20 >> Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to >> be an oversight in these specs. >>=20 >> Please comment further on this thread, to clarify your thoughts. >>=20 >> Cheers, >>=20 >> - Ira (co-chair of IPP WG) >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >> Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma Meiyappan = wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Pete et al, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I have a concern about >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> printer-config-change-date-time >>=20 >> printer-state-change-date-time >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> These attributes figure in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The = above attributes require the scan device to have a notion of wall clock = time (whether it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To = increase the chances of making use of that effectively & correctly, all = clients would be required to use this somehow in reference to = printer-current-time and not to the wall-clock time that the client = might know through other sources. That makes me wonder if it is = sufficient to have printer-state-change-time and = printer-config-change-time as required and make xxxx-date-time as = optional. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I have a similar question on FaxOut; but at least on FaxOut, the = devices are expected to have a notion of wall-clock time although the = point about how clients should use that information with reference to = printer-current-time still seems applicable. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >> Somasundaram. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of = Zehler, Peter >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM >> To: IPP@pwg.org >> Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> All, >>=20 >> This message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP = Scan Service specification updated per prototype experience and = subsequent discussions.=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf =20 >>=20 >> http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works = fine for this) and it will be collected and processed as quickly as = possible. >>=20 >> Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the = August 2014 F2F. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Peter Zehler >>=20 >> Xerox Research Center Webster >> Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com >> Voice: (585) 265-8755 >> FAX: (585) 265-7441 >> US Mail: Peter Zehler >> Xerox Corp. >> 800 Phillips Rd. >> M/S 128-25E >> Webster NY, 14580-9701 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Apple-Mail=_01173CFD-9E41-49EA-ADD8-FFD599E1A607 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Ira,

Given that it changes the = conformance requirements, I don't think it can be done as an errata. = However, we *could* make it RECOMMENDED (much like we did when we = published IPP/2.0 Second Edition for a number of = attributes...)

But we should definitely add = this to the list of future changes for IPP Everywhere 2.0 / IPP = Multifunction.

On May 21, 2014, = at 9:22 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:

Hi Mike and = Soma,

Then I maintain that it's an error in IPP Everywhere, = FaxOut, and Scan,
that the underlying "printer-current-time" = (OPTIONAL in RFC 2911 and

in IPP/2.0 Second Edition) is not moved to REQUIRED. I = consider it
an editorial error (i.e., fixable by an errata) as it's = an oversight.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / = Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions = WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO = Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF = Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High = North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:= blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 = 734-944-0094
Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI = 49839 906-494-2434

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM, = Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

Soma,

This is = indeed something that needs to be documented in the implementor's guide, = but in most cases the client just needs to see whether the date/time (or = simply the up time in seconds) is different than last reported, and not = if the change is newer.

But given that the printer-xxx-change-date-time = attributes are required in IPP Everywhere, I think we still want them = required for IPP Scan.

On May 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Soma Meiyappan <Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> = wrote:

Hi Ira,

Thank you very much for the summary from the F2F = discussions on this topic.

My question on the topic for FaxOut stems from the = imaginable ways an IPP client may have been written to be dependent on = printer-config-change-date-time for caching printer confifuation and if it is a value that may be = treated as trusted enough for that purpose. I am aware that =91no-value=92= is valid for these attributes (incl printer-current-time); but I am = concerned about other valid (but inaccurate) dateTime values and the implications.

If =91printer-config-change-date-time=92 is used = purely for informational purposes (as a value to display in a report or = a web-page and not necessarily in caching the printer configuration), I=92ll not be too concerned. However, could = it be used to determine if cached information about the printer needs to = be refreshed? If yes, we may want to add a note targeted at IPP client = writers, in the implementer=92s guide, that this information MUST not be used for caching printer capabilities = without other precautions including protection against the possibility = of the printer reported time being inaccurate [RFC 2911 does not place = any accuracy requirements] and printer-current-time (and derived attribute values) going back to the past for a number of = reasons.

Looking forward to hearing the forum=92s thoughts = on the topic.

Thanks and Regards,
Somasundaram.

From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM
To: Soma Meiyappan; Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler
Cc: IPP@pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service = specification

Hi Soma,

Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs.

We discussed this comment during the = Thursday IPP WG session

at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when = looking at IPP Scan with

Pete Zehler.

The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue = should be resolved on the
IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the = meeting:

(1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes = should remain REQUIRED

(because they satisfy regulatory = requirements for a Fax service).

(2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to = either

RECOMMENDED = (i.e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL.

Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG = 5100.14), the attributes

printer-config-change-date-time and = printer-state-change-date-time

attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for = conformance (see notes 2

and 3 below the table).

Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time = attribute should have

the same = conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP
Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to
be an oversight in these specs.

Please = comment further on this thread, to clarify your = thoughts.

Cheers,

- Ira = (co-chair of IPP WG)

Ira McDonald = (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic<= /a>
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
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On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma = Meiyappan <Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> = wrote:

Hi Pete et = al,

I have a concern = about

printer-config-change-date-time =
printer-state-change-date-time =

These attributes = figure in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The above attributes = require the scan device to have a notion of wall clock time (whether it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To increase the = chances of making use of that effectively & correctly, all clients = would be required to use this somehow in reference to = printer-current-time and not to the wall-clock time that the client might know through other sources. That makes me wonder if it is = sufficient to have printer-state-change-time and = printer-config-change-time as required and make xxxx-date-time as = optional.

I have a similar = question on FaxOut; but at least on FaxOut, the devices are expected to = have a notion of wall-clock time although the point about how clients should use that information with reference to = printer-current-time still seems applicable.

Regards,
Somasundaram.

From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Zehler, Peter
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM
To: IPP@pwg.org
Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service = specification

All,
This = message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP Scan = Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent = discussions.

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.p= df
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.= pdf

Please = send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine for = this) and it will be collected and processed as quickly as possible.
Our intent is to move IPP Scan = Service to PWG Formal Vote before the August 2014 = F2F.

Peter Zehler

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Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com
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From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 11:12:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: Michael Sweet Cc: "IPP@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1021683442==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1021683442== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1e8c007075e04f9ea6d48 --001a11c1e8c007075e04f9ea6d48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mike and Soma, You're both right of course (about validity assumptions and not changing conformance requirements by making a new REQUIRED). I'd be happy to promote "printer-current-time" to RECOMMENDED (in errata specs). In retrospect, I wish we had done it in IPP/2.0 SE. I think that the Implementor's Guide should address the issue of validity assumptions (e.g., recommend that Printers SHOULD NOT implement any attribute for which they can only support 'no-value'). Note that the PWG Common Log (for Syslog, PWG 5110.3) follows Syslog and makes accurate date/time REQUIRED in audit logs. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Ira, > > Given that it changes the conformance requirements, I don't think it can > be done as an errata. However, we *could* make it RECOMMENDED (much like > we did when we published IPP/2.0 Second Edition for a number of > attributes...) > > But we should definitely add this to the list of future changes for IPP > Everywhere 2.0 / IPP Multifunction. > > > On May 21, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Ira McDonald wrote= : > > Hi Mike and Soma, > > Then I maintain that it's an error in IPP Everywhere, FaxOut, and Scan, > that the underlying "printer-current-time" (OPTIONAL in RFC 2911 and > in IPP/2.0 Second Edition) is not moved to REQUIRED. I consider it > an editorial error (i.e., fixable by an errata) as it's an oversight. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > >> Soma, >> >> This is indeed something that needs to be documented in the implementor'= s >> guide, but in most cases the client just needs to see whether the date/t= ime >> (or simply the up time in seconds) is different than last reported, and = not >> if the change is newer. >> >> But given that the printer-xxx-change-date-time attributes are required >> in IPP Everywhere, I think we still want them required for IPP Scan. >> >> >> On May 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Soma Meiyappan >> wrote: >> >> Hi Ira, >> >> >> Thank you very much for the summary from the F2F discussions on this >> topic. >> >> >> My question on the topic for FaxOut stems from the imaginable ways an IP= P >> client may have been written to be dependent on >> printer-config-change-date-time for caching printer confifuation and if= it >> is a value that may be treated as trusted enough for that purpose. I am >> aware that =E2=80=98no-value=E2=80=99 is valid for these attributes (inc= l >> printer-current-time); but I am concerned about other valid (but >> inaccurate) dateTime values and the implications. >> >> >> If =E2=80=98printer-config-change-date-time=E2=80=99 is used purely for = informational >> purposes (as a value to display in a report or a web-page and not >> necessarily in caching the printer configuration), I=E2=80=99ll not be t= oo >> concerned. However, could it be used to determine if cached information >> about the printer needs to be refreshed? If yes, we may want to add a no= te >> targeted at IPP client writers, in the implementer=E2=80=99s guide, that= this >> information MUST not be used for caching printer capabilities without ot= her >> precautions including protection against the possibility of the printer >> reported time being inaccurate [RFC 2911 does not place any accuracy >> requirements] and printer-current-time (and derived attribute values) go= ing >> back to the past for a number of reasons. >> >> >> Looking forward to hearing the forum=E2=80=99s thoughts on the topic. >> >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> >> Somasundaram. >> >> >> >> *From:* Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] >> >> *Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM >> *To:* Soma Meiyappan; Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler >> *Cc:* IPP@pwg.org >> *Subject:* Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification >> >> >> >> Hi Soma, >> >> Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs. >> >> We discussed this comment during the Thursday IPP WG session >> >> at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when looking at IPP Scan with >> >> Pete Zehler. >> >> >> >> The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue should be resolved on the >> IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the meeting: >> >> >> >> (1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes should remain REQUIRED >> >> (because they satisfy regulatory requirements for a Fax service). >> >> >> (2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to either >> >> RECOMMENDED (i.e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL. >> >> Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14), the attributes >> >> printer-config-change-date-time and printer-state-change-date-time >> >> attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conformance (see notes 2 >> >> and 3 below the table). >> >> >> >> Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time attribute should have >> >> the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP >> Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to >> be an oversight in these specs. >> >> Please comment further on this thread, to clarify your thoughts. >> >> Cheers, >> >> - Ira (co-chair of IPP WG) >> >> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc >> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic >> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc >> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com >> Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 >> Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma Meiyappan < >> Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Pete et al, >> >> >> >> I have a concern about >> >> >> >> printer-config-change-date-time >> >> printer-state-change-date-time >> >> >> >> These attributes figure in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The above >> attributes require the scan device to have a notion of wall clock time >> (whether it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To increa= se >> the chances of making use of that effectively & correctly, all clients >> would be required to use this somehow in reference to printer-current-ti= me >> and not to the wall-clock time that the client might know through other >> sources. That makes me wonder if it is sufficient to have >> printer-state-change-time and printer-config-change-time as required and >> make xxxx-date-time as optional. >> >> >> >> I have a similar question on FaxOut; but at least on FaxOut, the devices >> are expected to have a notion of wall-clock time although the point abou= t >> how clients should use that information with reference to >> printer-current-time still seems applicable. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Somasundaram. >> >> >> >> *From:* ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] *On Behalf Of *= Zehler, >> Peter >> *Sent:* Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM >> *To:* IPP@pwg.org >> *Subject:* [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification >> >> >> >> All, >> >> This message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP Scan >> Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent >> discussions. >> >> >> >> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf >> >> http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf >> >> >> >> Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine >> for this) and it will be collected and processed as quickly as possible. >> >> Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the >> August 2014 F2F. >> >> >> >> Peter Zehler >> >> Xerox Research Center Webster >> Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com >> Voice: (585) 265-8755 >> FAX: (585) 265-7441 >> US Mail: Peter Zehler >> Xerox Corp. >> 800 Phillips Rd. >> M/S 128-25E >> Webster NY, 14580-9701 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair >> >> > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > --001a11c1e8c007075e04f9ea6d48 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mike and Soma,

Yo= u're both right of course (about validity assumptions and not changing<= br>

conformance requirements by making a new REQUIRED).

I'd be happy to promote "printer-current-time" to RECOMMENDED=

(in errata specs).=C2=A0 In retrospect, I wish we had done it in IPP/= 2.0 SE.

I think that the Implementor's Guide should a= ddress the issue of validity

assumptions (e.g., recommend tha= t Printers SHOULD NOT implement
any attribute for which they can only support 'no-value').=C2=A0
Note that the PWG Common Log (for Syslog, PWG 5110.3) follows
Sys= log and makes accurate date/time REQUIRED in audit logs.

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
= Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Op= en Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Int= ernet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MI= B
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http:= //sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto: blue= roofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094=
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434=

<= /div>

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Michael= Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

Ira,

Given that it c= hanges the conformance requirements, I don't think it can be done as an= errata. =C2=A0However, we *could* make it RECOMMENDED (much like we did wh= en we published IPP/2.0 Second Edition for a number of attributes...)

But we should definitely add this to the list of future= changes for IPP Everywhere 2.0 / IPP Multifunction.

On May 21, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Ira = McDonald <b= lueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mike = and Soma,

Then I maintain that it's an error in IPP Everyw= here, FaxOut, and Scan,
that the underlying "printer-current-time&q= uot; (OPTIONAL in RFC 2911 and

in IPP/2.0 Second Edition) is not moved to REQUIRED.=C2=A0 I consider= it
an editorial error (i.e., fixable by an errata) as it's an overs= ight.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software A= rchitect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux = Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<= br> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated E= xpert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto: blue= roofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094<= br>Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Michael= Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

Soma,

This is indeed= something that needs to be documented in the implementor's guide, but = in most cases the client just needs to see whether the date/time (or simply= the up time in seconds) is different than last reported, and not if the ch= ange is newer.

But given that the printer-xxx-change-date-time attribu= tes are required in IPP Everywhere, I think we still want them required for= IPP Scan.

On May 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Soma Meiyappan <Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> = wrote:

Hi Ira,
=C2=A0

Thank you very much= for the summary from the F2F discussions on this topic.
=C2=A0
<= /div>
My question on the t= opic for FaxOut stems from the imaginable ways an IPP client may have been = written to be dependent on printer-config-change-date-time for caching printer confifuation =C2=A0and if it is a value that may be treate= d as trusted enough for that purpose. I am aware that =E2=80=98no-value=E2= =80=99 is valid for these attributes (incl printer-current-time); but I am = concerned about other valid (but inaccurate) dateTime values and the implications.
=C2=A0
If =E2=80=98printer-config-change-date-time=E2=80=99 is used purel= y for informational purposes (as a value to display in a report or a web-pa= ge and not necessarily in caching the printer configuration), I=E2=80=99ll not be too concerned. However, co= uld it be used to determine if cached information about the printer needs t= o be refreshed? If yes, we may want to add a note targeted at IPP client wr= iters, in the implementer=E2=80=99s guide, that this information MUST not be used for caching printer capabilities without= other precautions including protection against the possibility of the prin= ter reported time being inaccurate [RFC 2911 does not place any accuracy re= quirements] and printer-current-time (and derived attribute values) going back to the past for a number of reas= ons.
=C2=A0
Looking forward to hearing = the forum=E2=80=99s thoughts on the topic.

=C2=A0
Thanks and Regards,

Somasundaram.
=C2=A0

=C2=A0
From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic= @gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM
To: Soma Meiyappan; Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler
Cc: IPP@pwg.org=
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification=
=C2=A0

Hi Soma,

Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs.

We discussed this comment during the Thursday = IPP WG session

at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when looking= at IPP Scan with

Pete Zehler.

=C2=A0

The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue shou= ld be resolved on the
IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the meeting:<= u>

=C2=A0

(1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes sh= ould remain REQUIRED

(because they satisfy regulatory requirements = for a Fax service).

(2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to either

RECOMMENDED (i.= e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL.

Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14= ), the attributes

printer-config-change-date-time and printer-sta= te-change-date-time

attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conforma= nce (see notes 2

and 3 below the table).

=C2=A0

Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time att= ribute should have

the same conform= ance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP
Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan.=C2=A0 This appears to me to
be an oversight in these specs.

Please comment = further on this thread, to clarify your thoughts.

Cheers,

- Ira (co-chair= of IPP WG)

Ira McDonald (Mu= sician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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=C2=A0

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma Meiyappa= n <Soma= .Meiyappan@conexant.com> wrote:

Hi Pete et al,
= =C2=A0
I have a concern about

=C2=A0
printer-config-change-date-tim= e
printer-stat= e-change-date-time

=C2=A0
These attribu= tes figure in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The above attributes requi= re the scan device to have a notion of wall clock time (whether it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To increase the chan= ces of making use of that effectively & correctly, all clients would be= required to use this somehow in reference to printer-current-time and not = to the wall-clock time that the client might know through other sources. That makes me wonder if it is sufficient= to have printer-state-change-time and printer-config-change-time as requir= ed and make xxxx-date-time as optional.
=C2=A0
I have a similar question on FaxOut;= but at least on FaxOut, the devices are expected to have a notion of wall-= clock time although the point about how clients should use that information with reference to printer-current-time= still seems applicable.
=C2=A0
Regards,
Somasundaram.=
=C2=A0

From: ipp-bounces@pwg.or= g [mailto:ipp-= bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Zehler, Peter
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM
To: IPP@pwg.org=
Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification=

=C2=A0
= All,
This message initiates the IPP= Working Group last call of the IPP Scan Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent discus= sions.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-= 20140509.pdf =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-= ippscan10-20140509.pdf =C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing= list (reply-all works fine for this) and it will be collected and processe= d as quickly as possible.
Our intent is to move IPP Scan Ser= vice to PWG Formal Vote before the August 2014 F2F.
=C2=A0
Pet= er Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xe= rox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701
=C2=A0
=C2=A0

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ipp@pwg.org
http= s://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

=C2=A0

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet,= Senior Printing System=C2=A0Engineer, PWG Chair

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet,= Senior Printing System=C2=A0Engineer, PWG Chair

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From: Tax Debt Distress? Message-ID: <20140521001817.26541.16032.DEYGHN.20140521001817.26541.16032@purfeu.com> To: Hey Ipp-archive, Worried about last years taxes... and the deadline you just missed in May? Feel like your drowning? Take a Deep Breath . . . ================================================== View the amount of Tax Relief You qualify for Here: http://www.purfeu.com/irs/relief/package/may21.index ========================================= Generated on: 05/20/2014 IRS Offer | IRS Compromise ========================================= modify message status w/ Alert System Notifications 1107 Valeria Dr. Marion, Texas 7 8 1 2 4 or http://www.purfeu.com/wkk3/dmf4.n443 @Rob: I meant having the orange shadow on the top of the list when you overpull, instead of having the list bounce back like on iPhone. This is meant as a comment (not answer), but comments can't have images. Lie Ryan Feb 26 '11 at 12:42 Ahh, sorry, great Idea. I haven't played with gingerbread yet, so hadn't seen the effect. Still waiting for google to roll it to the nexus one. Rob Mar 1 '11 at 12:00 8 I have Gingerbread and the orange glow works great when a list is static. But the pull-down-refresh is a great UI mecanism to refresh a dynamic list. Although it is prevalent in iOS world, it's a UI trick that doesn't feel wierd in Android ecosystem. I strongly suggest you check it out in the official Twitter app. :) Thierry-Dimitri Roy Apr 18 '11 at 15:19 The native behaviour here is to indicate that you have reached the end of a list. Taking this, and performing a refresh is identically non native as you are not doing what the platform does. This means you are more likely to surprise the user. I certainly wouldn't expect nor want a refresh just because I got to the end of a list. Pull down to refresh is a lot more intuitive and clear. And as the native twitter app uses it I think its fair to say it is a UI concept a large amount of people are familiar with. steprobe Apr 20 '12 at 17:58 If calling notifyDataSetChanged() doesn't work all the layout methods won't help either. Believe me the listview was properly updated. If you fail to find the difference you need to check where the data in your adapter comes from. If this is just a collection you're keeping in memory check that you actually deleted the item from the collection before calling the notifyDataSetChanged(). If you're working with a database or service backend you'll have to call the method to retrieve the information again (or manipulate the in memory data) before calling the notifyDataSetChanged(). The thing is this notifyDataSetChanged only works if the dataset has changed. So that is the place to look if you don't find changes coming through. Debug if needed. UI Threadyou're wrong. notifyDataSetChanged() didn't worked for me, but invalidateViews() did it right. babay Sep 8 '13 at 9:31 4 And pigs fly. I saw one the other day approaching a speed bump way too fast on a Harley. Flew right over it Believe me if you need to call invalidateViews() you're doing something wrong. hcpl Sep 18 '13 at 22:54 I have the issue where the actual elements in the list do not change, e.g. same amount of elements. But the problem is that the way they are presented needs to change. That means my adapter's code to build the UI needs to run again and then correctly hide some element in the list rows. notifyDataSetChanged() does not work... Sven Haiges Nov 8 '13 at 9:49 @hcpl I have a problem with with listview and notifyDataSetChanged() works, but with delay. After updating data I'm calling notifyDataSetChanged() and after that I need to update my component, which gets from ListView number of checked items. In this moment, that number is not updated. I know it is updated few moments later. Ari Nov 28 '13 at 11:18 protected void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) { super.onCreate(savedInstanceState); setListAdapter(adapter); getListView().setOnScrollListener(this); } public void onScroll(AbsListView view, int firstVisible, int visibleCount, int totalCount) { boolean loadMore = /* maybe add a padding */ firstVisible + visibleCount >= totalCount; if(loadMore) { adapter.count += visibleCount; // or any other amount adapter.notifyDataSetChanged(); } This answer really helped me out. I was keeping the array in memory for certain feature reasons. To fix it I now call adapter.clear(), and adapter.addAll(Array) before calling notifyDataSetChanged() Michael DePhillips Feb 26 at 23:09 It is true that this has to be called from the UI thread. Other answers have examples on how to achieve this. However this is only required if you're working on this information from outside the UI thread. That is from a service or a non UI thread. In simple cases you'll be updating your data from a button click or another activity/fragment. So still within the UI thread. No need to always pop that runOnUiTrhead in. Thanks, this works perfectly. Isaac Waller Jul 4 '09 at 18:53 3 huh, wouldn't this trigger the adapter size increase if you'd stop scrolling in the middle of the screen? it should only load the next 10 when actually reaching the list bottom. Matthias Aug 5 '10 at 10:13 3 @Matthias you are absolutely right, I modified the code accordingly. Thanks for the feedback Josef Pfleger Aug 8 '10 at 19:59 9 I notice a lot of examples like this using BaseAdapter. Wanted to mention that if you're using a database, try using a SimpleCursorAdapter. When you need to add to the list, update your database, get a new cursor, and use SimpleCursorAdapter#changeCursor along with notifyDataSetChanged. No subclassing required, and it performs better than a BaseAdapter(again, only if you're using a database). brack Oct 20 '10 at 18:51 3 Another problem with this code is that the condition firstVisible + visibleCount >= totalCount is met multiple times with multiple calls to the listener. If the load-more function is a web request, (most probably it will be), add another check for if a request is going on or not. On the other hand, check if the totalCount is not equal to the Previous total count, because we don't need multiple requests for the same number of items in the list. From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed May 21 08:24:15 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087E11A0885 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 08:24:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qUvj-y3gEvOp for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 08:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1281A088A for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 08:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FAF857A; Wed, 21 May 2014 15:23:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from g4t3425.houston.hp.com (g4t3425.houston.hp.com [15.201.208.53]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D996D8577 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 15:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from G4W6310.americas.hpqcorp.net (g4w6310.houston.hp.com [16.210.26.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by g4t3425.houston.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 438671CF for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 15:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from G9W3611.americas.hpqcorp.net (16.216.186.46) by G4W6310.americas.hpqcorp.net (16.210.26.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.169.1; Wed, 21 May 2014 15:22:06 +0000 Received: from G9W0739.americas.hpqcorp.net ([169.254.10.137]) by G9W3611.americas.hpqcorp.net ([16.216.186.46]) with mapi id 14.03.0169.001; Wed, 21 May 2014 15:22:06 +0000 From: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" To: "" Thread-Topic: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or IPP Everywhere specs Thread-Index: AQHPdPp9hDEtqkzkMEOuWWUXr7m8QJtLJuQA Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 15:22:05 +0000 Message-ID: <06157AFB-D367-4B68-B3AC-F2F1A8A397FD@hp.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [16.216.12.26] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or IPP Everywhere specs X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1682154942==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1682154942== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B1EFB118-B1C9-4234-8B80-A98CCDA55AF0"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_B1EFB118-B1C9-4234-8B80-A98CCDA55AF0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Mike, Since =93attempted=94 is so squishy, why not mandate =93guaranteed=94? = Including =93attempted=94 seems like a loophole. Smith /** Smith Kennedy ATB Wireless Architect - PPS Hewlett-Packard Co. */ On 2014-05-21, at 7:42 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > All, >=20 > It has come to my attention that neither the IPP Everywhere nor the = PWG Raster Format specs explicitly call out required values for the = "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute. 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-0400 Message-id: References: <06157AFB-D367-4B68-B3AC-F2F1A8A397FD@hp.com> To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrMLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUiON3OSFfqRE2wwYxnlhbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxoJj69gK9nlU7L60lLGBsdOli5GDQ0LAROLyL44uRk4gU0zi wr31bF2MXBxCArOYJD6u7mYHSfAKCEr8mHyPBSIxmUni5rF3zDDNa27KwcV7N/5hhHN27Whm AykSFoiTeHK6ACTOLDCFUeL8uTMsIFPZBNQkfk/qYwWxOQWsJK50LWcDsVkEVCXO/+oFizML KEosm/6HFeIKG4nmk1fBaoQEciQOrboDFhcRcJB4vuQTC8QLshKPPjSBXSohsIpNYmLPPbYJ jMKzkHwxC9khs8CWaEssW/iaGcI2kHja+YoVwjaVePJ2OxuEbS3xc84jxllQR03pfsi+gJF9 FaNQbmJmjm5mnrleYkFBTqpecn7uJkZIrIjtYHy4yuoQowAHoxIPr0dBdbAQa2JZcWXuIUZp DhYlcd6MnUAhgfTEktTs1NSC1KL4otKc1OJDjEwcnFINjBwHitOr3TdO3Mjp7bDw4on1Ns1r AyK2cG8NYNOyfBNYt7J3u8XN1evzpqxXPpLgv/Gz5nqBJIdD/O0ZemfabAtm3+5L6Inf5dCU 8y/bw2+i0ub+h0qla1ZfW1Srn7osvfwgl38b79OtSkZFweu3aCmWqfz/0MN0aebOTcGn7L6d Sfk4Re3qTiWW4oxEQy3mouJEAAXLfh12AgAA X-Brightmail-Tracker: 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1571529989==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1571529989== Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_070E2AFC-B1FD-4DF5-88AC-665DE2D29BD9"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_070E2AFC-B1FD-4DF5-88AC-665DE2D29BD9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Smith, On May 21, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) = wrote: > Hi Mike, >=20 > Since =93attempted=94 is so squishy, why not mandate =93guaranteed=94? = Including =93attempted=94 seems like a loophole. If there is sufficient support for "guaranteed", then certainly. But I = have yet to see a printer report "guaranteed"... > On 2014-05-21, at 7:42 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 >> All, >>=20 >> It has come to my attention that neither the IPP Everywhere nor the = PWG Raster Format specs explicitly call out required values for the = "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute. This attribute specifies = whether the Printer can override embedded job ticket information (such = as media size) when requested in a Job via the "ipp-attribute-fidelity" = or "job-mandatory-attributes" Job Template attributes. >>=20 >> Generally speaking, Printers SHOULD support PDL override for the = standard PDLs in IPP Everywhere, including PWG Raster, JPEG, and PDF. = Typically this means forcing prints to a single media/size or forcing = simplex/duplex output, and is particularly important for JPEG. >>=20 >> My recommendation is for us to add the following conformance = statement in a future revision of the IPP Everywhere specification: >>=20 >> pdl-override-supported (type2 keyword) >>=20 >> When reporting capabilities for the 'application/pdf', = 'image/jpeg', or 'image/pwg-raster' >> MIME media types, Printers MUST report either 'attempted' or = 'guaranteed' for the >> "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute,=20 >>=20 >> Thoughts? >>=20 >> 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View Rate Here: http://www.yupole.com/policy/update/500k.html Rate Generated on: May 20, 2014 - Please note that this rate is set to expire. -- The available $500,000+ is immediately available. --- To view all details of policy click here: http://www.yupole.com/policy/update/500k.html -to modify your message settings - w/ Alert System Notifications (write) one one zero seven V a l e r i a Drive Marion, TX 78124 (or) http://www.yupole.com/jf3.gnek Is the actual problem that you just don't want it to have focus at all? Or you don't want it to show the virtual keyboard as a result of focusing the EditText? I don't really see an issue with the EditText having focus on start, but it's definitely a problem to have the softInput window open when the user did not explicitly request to focus on the EditText (and open the keyboard as a result) If it's the problem of the virtual keyboard, see the AndroidManifest.xml element documentation. android:windowSoftInputMode="stateHidden" - always hide it when entering the activity or android:windowSoftInputMode="stateUnchanged" - don't change it (e.g., don't show it if it isn't already shown, but if it was open when entering the activity, leave it open)Bravo! I noticed that Eclipses' WYSIWYG editor adds this line automatically. Removing it worked like a charm, thanks! DzinX Jun 15 '12 at 10:32 2 This appears to be the best solution in most cases. Would be nice if it was more visible. Thanks @DzinX for the comment pointing this out. Aaron Dufour Jun 19 '12 at 15:46 Of course, the way to just not have this issue is to just use XML instead of the graphical editor. The graphical editor isn't worth crap and certainly can't be considered in the same league as Apple's interface builder for iOS / OS X. Upvoting Joe for pointing out a real solution for whether you're using graphical or XML. ArtOfWarfare Sep 18 '12 at 19:37 But this will never gain focus in future, how to just stop focus only for initial(activity start) ?? Jayesh Mar 8 '13 at 7:46 1 The onTouchListener is called before other touch actions. So by enabling focusable on touch the standard focus happens on the first touch. The keyboard will come up and everything. MinceMan Mar 9 '13 at 16:36 1 I think this is the best way to do it. Also, the mumbo-jumbo xml magic dummy code above did NOT work for a complex set of edit texts...If this works, I will definetely vote up. Radu Jul 29 '13 at 9:02 final ViewGroup content = (ViewGroup)activity.findViewById(android.R.id.content); final View root = content.getChildAt(0); if (root == null) return null; final View focusDummy = new View(activity); final View.OnFocusChangeListener onFocusChangeListener = new View.OnFocusChangeListener() { @Override public void onFocusChange(View view, boolean b) { view.setOnFocusChangeListener(null); content.removeView(focusDummy); } }; focusDummy.setFocusable(true); focusDummy.setFocusableInTouchMode(true); content.addView(focusDummy, 0, new LinearLayout.LayoutParams(0, 0)); if (root instanceof ViewGroup) { final ViewGroup _root = (ViewGroup)root; for (int i = 1, children = _root.getChildCount(); i < children; i++) { final View child = _root.getChildAt(i); if (child.isFocusable() || child.isFocusableInTouchMode()) { child.setOnFocusChangeListener(onFocusChangeListener); break; not working in ics simulator Yogesh Maheshwari Nov 26 '12 at 7:32 This works for me. I had already set the keyboard to not appear, but I had an edittext at the bottom of a scrollview and the page would always scroll down to the edittext. This fixed it. Thanks for pointing this out. Reynard Dec 10 '13 at 18:36 In Android applications such as Twitter (official app), when you encounter a ListView, you can pull it down (and it will bounce back when released) to refresh the content.I wonder what is the best way, in your opinion, to implement that?Some possibilities I could think of:An item on top of the ListView - however I don't think scrolling back to item position 1 (0-based) with animation on the ListView is an easy task. Another view outside the ListView - but I need to take care of moving the ListView position down when it is pulled, and I'm not sure if we can detect if the drag-touches to the ListView still really scroll the items on the ListView.Hi johan, I have downloaded your sample code. It is worked in android 2.2 device but not worked in 2.1 device. I think because it used smoothScrollBy method which only available in 2.2 or later, is correct? And do you have any idea to implement this effect into 2.1 or earlier version? Thanks user577394 Jan 16 '11 at 15:18Yes that's correct as I stated in the answer smoothScrollBy was introduces in API Level 8 (2.2). I haven't figured out a proper way to implement it for other versions yet, but it guess it should be possible to port the implementation of smoothScrollBy but I guess that discussion should be kept at the project site and not on stack overflow? Johan Nilsson Jan 16 '11 at 18:0Is it on purpose that the id is @+id/android:list and not @androi d:id/list, it looks weird? The project throws an inflation error here on my side, I'm currently checking on that... Mathias Lin May 17 '11 at 9:28 9 This is the best library for pull to refresh works with ListViews, GridViews and Webviews. Also has Pull up to refresh pattern implemented. gaurav Apr 1 '12 at 23:07 How do I add the project into library folder while working on Intellij Idea? Can anybody help me? Any recommendationsP.S. I wonder when the official Twitter app source code is released. It has been mentioned that it will be released, but 6 months has passed and we haven't heard about it since then. From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed May 21 08:42:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1151A086E for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 08:42:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.439 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.439 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UG5uO1H3fvqu for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 08:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AE91A0876 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 08:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB378586; Wed, 21 May 2014 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-ig0-x22a.google.com (mail-ig0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22a]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B8388585 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 15:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f170.google.com with SMTP id uy17so5067810igb.3 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 08:42:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=T6xZ7oc/wv3p3no1GDl+SGT3UIL1n4jlnB3u3sRRoqk=; b=wIBg1/JxX7Q6XYVrkn4g+5XBTZmHpaOcE/+XB0E4vD6+6U3GfRMeCFdc1B6ULAZIBr asg+mMV4Iw/dCrgFTgFTO/SLB01gjrg44mHUJkhfVVCPk1Jqkw9iUbYKikGLoib+tqFG CW5jGLPAVx2eVr8dNy0h5gRNGoC0JDzH7ze45Sk/YTjWygSqA/c0Pj0su0g2LXHtezHk BNhm/KehWENf23VWZeuCXRvLrAldDxP/QihN83BnwooRlHCKyGjG6DsiD4MF0FDhe0+H 37b+fJH1EjIeRNrMQ6GCTVYHgcNQpYQxWsU/tUNbsypMQGoUp1p5M0ugtcD4QV7Nvlam c9gA== X-Received: by 10.43.140.144 with SMTP id ja16mr50221836icc.46.1400686968424; Wed, 21 May 2014 08:42:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.168.100 with HTTP; Wed, 21 May 2014 08:42:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <06157AFB-D367-4B68-B3AC-F2F1A8A397FD@hp.com> References: <06157AFB-D367-4B68-B3AC-F2F1A8A397FD@hp.com> From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 11:42:28 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" , Ira McDonald Cc: "" Subject: Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or IPP Everywhere specs X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0370413073==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0370413073== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1e8c031ce6f04f9ead9e7 --001a11c1e8c031ce6f04f9ead9e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Smith, We've never made "pdl-override-supported" have 'guaranteed' as REQUIRED (even in IPP/2.1 or IPP/2.2 levels), because it's binary. If you claim that your Printer supports 'guaranteed' then you have to be able to *successfully* intercept and override everything in your interpreters (vanishingly unlikely in PDF, for example). I agree with Mike that I've never seen a printer in the wild that actually supported 'guaranteed'. I also agree that should make 'attempted' a REQUIRED value and 'guaranteed' a RECOMMENDED value (explaining in the Implementors Guide that there are practical limitations w/ third-party interpreters to perfect override). Cheers, - Ira Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Since =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D is so squishy, why not mandate =E2=80= =9Cguaranteed=E2=80=9D? Including > =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D seems like a loophole. > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > ATB Wireless Architect - PPS > Hewlett-Packard Co. > */ > > > > On 2014-05-21, at 7:42 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > > All, > > > > It has come to my attention that neither the IPP Everywhere nor the PWG > Raster Format specs explicitly call out required values for the > "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute. This attribute specifies > whether the Printer can override embedded job ticket information (such as > media size) when requested in a Job via the "ipp-attribute-fidelity" or > "job-mandatory-attributes" Job Template attributes. > > > > Generally speaking, Printers SHOULD support PDL override for the > standard PDLs in IPP Everywhere, including PWG Raster, JPEG, and PDF. > Typically this means forcing prints to a single media/size or forcing > simplex/duplex output, and is particularly important for JPEG. > > > > My recommendation is for us to add the following conformance statement > in a future revision of the IPP Everywhere specification: > > > > pdl-override-supported (type2 keyword) > > > > When reporting capabilities for the 'application/pdf', 'image/jpeg', > or 'image/pwg-raster' > > MIME media types, Printers MUST report either 'attempted' or > 'guaranteed' for the > > "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute, > > > > Thoughts? > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > --001a11c1e8c031ce6f04f9ead9e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Smith,

<= /div>We've never made "pdl-override-supported" have 'guar= anteed' as REQUIRED

(even in IPP/2.1 or IPP/2.2 levels), becau= se it's binary.=C2=A0

If you claim that your Printer supports 'guaranteed' then you h= ave to be able to
*successfully* intercept and override everything in yo= ur interpreters (vanishingly
unlikely in PDF, for example).

I agree with Mike that I've never seen a printer in the= wild that actually supported

'guaranteed'.

<= div>I also agree that should make 'attempted' a REQUIRED value and = 'guaranteed'

a RECOMMENDED value (explaining in the Implementors Guide that t= here are

practical limitations w/ third-party interpreters to= perfect override).

Cheers,

- Ira

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musi= cian / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<= br> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer = Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
= IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High No= rth Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic=
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: bluero= ofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0= 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI= 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Kenned= y, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrot= e:

Hi Mike,

Since =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D is so squishy, why not mandate =E2=80=9Cg= uaranteed=E2=80=9D? =C2=A0Including =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D seems like = a loophole.

Smith

/**
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ATB Wireless Architect - PPS
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hewlett-Packard Co.
*/

On 2014-05-21, at 7:42 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> It has come to my attention that neither the IPP Everywhere nor the PW= G Raster Format specs explicitly call out required values for the "pdl= -override-supported" Printer attribute. This attribute specifies wheth= er the Printer can override embedded job ticket information (such as media = size) when requested in a Job via the "ipp-attribute-fidelity" or= "job-mandatory-attributes" Job Template attributes.
>
> Generally speaking, Printers SHOULD support PDL override for the stand= ard PDLs in IPP Everywhere, including PWG Raster, JPEG, and PDF. =C2=A0Typi= cally this means forcing prints to a single media/size or forcing simplex/d= uplex output, and is particularly important for JPEG.
>
> My recommendation is for us to add the following conformance statement= in a future revision of the IPP Everywhere specification:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0pdl-override-supported (type2 keyword)
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0When reporting capabilities for the 'application/pdf&= #39;, 'image/jpeg', or 'image/pwg-raster'
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0MIME media types, Printers MUST report either 'attemp= ted' or 'guaranteed' for the
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0"pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute,
>
> Thoughts?
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
>

> _______________________________________________
> ipp mailing list
> ipp@pwg.org
> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
http= s://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

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In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:06:09 -0400 Message-ID: <000001cf750e$948e7630$bdab6290$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac90+uDZcgI5cJuZSDyJFctpxvzSywAEU/yQ Content-Language: en-us DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1400688368; bh=6aNEk5oOIYr1jng2HNaJYWOq1DiNv56roGUoBWwHsq4=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=IRGof5ljeHcHmg10H8aGhC+iC2KuUYNTEFMgpzdvlrdx5uUkDNKoSFxpYPTQFH1BU ZltOfZxnGbLnuQfCG2VXJicsqNrUiQ2LyyqCVoHJEWkCrltBY7hGUNCyFeVLGWHAjT YsrfW3Xf4Z8svAelB64n+1QmdrlDUS4BDcyl3zdzqk5qGdtA6+ys0alDYwN+PQVvWH EWd6KLYnSpIdNchxzEMX0kmGImOyRfz4ATGNdp+Y6ItUwFbu7LrWvQQCYrXU4Ub3hr NC6fUCUs/zbvk2PBZ4SmWIN1iynDQLQo/j/BAmtI9BQIL1JtGU7J9uyWkPZU0FgXIm 3/OqRJh9rF8GQ== Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1667927163==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1667927163== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01CF74ED.0D7CD630" Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CF74ED.0D7CD630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I find myself in the unusual position of concurring with (almost) all. 1. If attributes expressed in date-time are required, then the printer presumably knows (or can determine) current date time and "printer-current-time" should be required. 2. This should be consistent across IPP imaging services 3. The notion of requiring an attribute but not requiring that the date-time value be valid was, if I recall correctly, a concession to the limitations of low-cost printers that seems to have persisted. I suggest that this is inappropriate for a networked printer today. 4. I agree that making an attribute required cannot be considered an editorial correction fixable by an errata (even if it was an oversight). Thanks, Bill Wagner From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:45 AM To: Ira McDonald Cc: IPP@pwg.org Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification Ira, Given that it changes the conformance requirements, I don't think it can be done as an errata. However, we *could* make it RECOMMENDED (much like we did when we published IPP/2.0 Second Edition for a number of attributes...) But we should definitely add this to the list of future changes for IPP Everywhere 2.0 / IPP Multifunction. On May 21, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Ira McDonald wrote: Hi Mike and Soma, Then I maintain that it's an error in IPP Everywhere, FaxOut, and Scan, that the underlying "printer-current-time" (OPTIONAL in RFC 2911 and in IPP/2.0 Second Edition) is not moved to REQUIRED. I consider it an editorial error (i.e., fixable by an errata) as it's an oversight. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: Soma, This is indeed something that needs to be documented in the implementor's guide, but in most cases the client just needs to see whether the date/time (or simply the up time in seconds) is different than last reported, and not if the change is newer. But given that the printer-xxx-change-date-time attributes are required in IPP Everywhere, I think we still want them required for IPP Scan. On May 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Soma Meiyappan wrote: Hi Ira, Thank you very much for the summary from the F2F discussions on this topic. My question on the topic for FaxOut stems from the imaginable ways an IPP client may have been written to be dependent on printer-config-change-date-time for caching printer confifuation and if it is a value that may be treated as trusted enough for that purpose. I am aware that 'no-value' is valid for these attributes (incl printer-current-time); but I am concerned about other valid (but inaccurate) dateTime values and the implications. If 'printer-config-change-date-time' is used purely for informational purposes (as a value to display in a report or a web-page and not necessarily in caching the printer configuration), I'll not be too concerned. However, could it be used to determine if cached information about the printer needs to be refreshed? If yes, we may want to add a note targeted at IPP client writers, in the implementer's guide, that this information MUST not be used for caching printer capabilities without other precautions including protection against the possibility of the printer reported time being inaccurate [RFC 2911 does not place any accuracy requirements] and printer-current-time (and derived attribute values) going back to the past for a number of reasons. Looking forward to hearing the forum's thoughts on the topic. Thanks and Regards, Somasundaram. From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM To: Soma Meiyappan; Ira McDonald; Peter Zehler Cc: IPP@pwg.org Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification Hi Soma, Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP specs. We discussed this comment during the Thursday IPP WG session at the PWG F2F meeting last week, when looking at IPP Scan with Pete Zehler. The IPP F2F minutes state that this issue should be resolved on the IPP mailing list, but there was unanimous consensus in the meeting: (1) IPP FaxOut - these date-time attributes should remain REQUIRED (because they satisfy regulatory requirements for a Fax service). (2) IPP Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to either RECOMMENDED (i.e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL. Please note that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14), the attributes printer-config-change-date-time and printer-state-change-date-time attributes are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conformance (see notes 2 and 3 below the table). Obviously, the underlying printer-date-time attribute should have the same conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP Everywhere, IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to be an oversight in these specs. Please comment further on this thread, to clarify your thoughts. Cheers, - Ira (co-chair of IPP WG) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma Meiyappan wrote: Hi Pete et al, I have a concern about printer-config-change-date-time printer-state-change-date-time These attributes figure in the REQUIRED table in section 4.3. The above attributes require the scan device to have a notion of wall clock time (whether it is accurate or not to the global wall clock time). To increase the chances of making use of that effectively & correctly, all clients would be required to use this somehow in reference to printer-current-time and not to the wall-clock time that the client might know through other sources. That makes me wonder if it is sufficient to have printer-state-change-time and printer-config-change-time as required and make xxxx-date-time as optional. I have a similar question on FaxOut; but at least on FaxOut, the devices are expected to have a notion of wall-clock time although the point about how clients should use that information with reference to printer-current-time still seems applicable. Regards, Somasundaram. From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Zehler, Peter Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM To: IPP@pwg.org Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan Service specification All, This message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP Scan Service specification updated per prototype experience and subsequent discussions. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.pdf Please send all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine for this) and it will be collected and processed as quickly as possible. Our intent is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG Formal Vote before the August 2014 F2F. Peter Zehler Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701 _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CF74ED.0D7CD630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I find myself in the unusual position of concurring with (almost) = all.

1. = If = attributes expressed in date-time are required, then the printer = presumably knows (or can determine) current date time and "printer-current-time&q= uot; should be required.=

2. = This = should be consistent across IPP imaging services

3. = The notion = of requiring an attribute but not requiring that the date-time value be = valid was, if I recall correctly, a concession to the limitations of = low-cost printers that seems to have persisted. I suggest that = this is inappropriate for a networked printer today. =

4. = I agree = that making an attribute required cannot be considered an editorial = correction fixable by an errata (even if it was an = oversight).

Thanks,

Bill = Wagner

From:= = ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of = Michael Sweet
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:45 = AM
To: Ira McDonald
Cc: = IPP@pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call of IPP Scan = Service specification

Ira,

Given that it changes the conformance requirements, I = don't think it can be done as an errata. However, we *could* make = it RECOMMENDED (much like we did when we published IPP/2.0 Second = Edition for a number of attributes...)

But we should definitely add this to the list of = future changes for IPP Everywhere 2.0 / IPP = Multifunction.

On = May 21, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:

Hi Mike and = Soma,

Then I maintain that it's = an error in IPP Everywhere, FaxOut, and Scan,
that the underlying = "printer-current-time" (OPTIONAL in RFC 2911 = and

in IPP/2.0 Second Edition) is not moved = to REQUIRED. I consider it
an editorial error (i.e., fixable by = an errata) as it's an oversight.

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician = / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions = WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO = Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing = Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue = Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic=
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc<= /a>
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter 579 Park = Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094
Summer PO = Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 = 906-494-2434

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

Soma,

This is indeed something that needs to be documented = in the implementor's guide, but in most cases the client just needs to = see whether the date/time (or simply the up time in seconds) is = different than last reported, and not if the change is = newer.

But given that the printer-xxx-change-date-time = attributes are required in IPP Everywhere, I think we still want them = required for IPP Scan.

On = May 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Soma Meiyappan <Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> = wrote:

Hi Ira,

Thank you very much for the summary from the F2F discussions on this = topic.

My question on the topic for FaxOut stems from the imaginable ways an = IPP client may have been written to be dependent on = printer-config-change-date-time for caching printer confifuation = and if it is a value that may be treated as trusted enough for = that purpose. I am aware that ‘no-value’ is valid for these = attributes (incl printer-current-time); but I am concerned about other = valid (but inaccurate) dateTime values and the = implications.

If ‘printer-config-change-date-time’ is used purely for = informational purposes (as a value to display in a report or a web-page = and not necessarily in caching the printer configuration), I’ll = not be too concerned. However, could it be used to determine if cached = information about the printer needs to be refreshed? If yes, we may want = to add a note targeted at IPP client writers, in the implementer’s = guide, that this information MUST not be used for caching printer = capabilities without other precautions including protection against the = possibility of the printer reported time being inaccurate [RFC 2911 does = not place any accuracy requirements] and printer-current-time (and = derived attribute values) going back to the past for a number of = reasons.

Looking forward to hearing the forum’s thoughts on the = topic.

Thanks and Regards,

Somasundaram.

From: Ira = McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com]
Sent: = Monday, May 19, 2014 11:23 PM
To: Soma Meiyappan; Ira = McDonald; Peter Zehler
Cc: IPP@pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last = Call of IPP Scan Service specification

<= /o:p>

Hi = Soma,

Thanks for your careful reading of these IPP = specs.

We = discussed this comment during the Thursday IPP WG session =

at the PWG = F2F meeting last week, when looking at IPP Scan = with

Pete = Zehler.

<= /o:p>

The IPP F2F = minutes state that this issue should be resolved on the
IPP mailing = list, but there was unanimous consensus in the = meeting:

<= /o:p>

(1) IPP = FaxOut - these date-time attributes should remain = REQUIRED

(because = they satisfy regulatory requirements for a Fax = service).

(2) IPP = Scan - these date-time attributes should be changed to = either

RECOMMENDED = (i.e., best practice) or simply OPTIONAL.

Please note = that in IPP Everywhere (PWG 5100.14), the = attributes

printer-conf= ig-change-date-time and = printer-state-change-date-time

attributes = are REQUIRED in Table 6 for conformance (see notes = 2

and 3 below = the table).

<= /o:p>

Obviously, = the underlying printer-date-time attribute should = have

the same = conformance level as the change-xxx attributes in IPP
Everywhere, = IPP FaxOut, and IPP Scan. This appears to me to
be an oversight = in these specs.

Please comment = further on this thread, to clarify your thoughts.

Cheers,=

- Ira (co-chair = of IPP WG)

Ira McDonald = (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility = Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - = IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet = Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer = MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic=
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc<= /a>
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter 579 Park = Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094
Summer PO Box 221 = Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434

<= /p>

On Tue, May = 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Soma Meiyappan <Soma.Meiyappan@conexant.com> = wrote:

Hi Pete et al,

I have a concern about

printer-config-change-date-time =
printer-state-change-date-time =

These attributes figure in the REQUIRED table in = section 4.3. The above attributes require the scan device to have a = notion of wall clock time (whether it is accurate or not to the global = wall clock time). To increase the chances of making use of that = effectively & correctly, all clients would be required to use this = somehow in reference to printer-current-time and not to the wall-clock = time that the client might know through other sources. That makes me = wonder if it is sufficient to have printer-state-change-time and = printer-config-change-time as required and make xxxx-date-time as = optional.

I have a similar question on FaxOut; but at = least on FaxOut, the devices are expected to have a notion of wall-clock = time although the point about how clients should use that information = with reference to printer-current-time still seems = applicable.

Regards,
Somasundaram.

From:= ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Zehler, = Peter
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:35 PM
To: IPP@pwg.org
Subject: [IPP] WG Last Call = of IPP Scan Service specification
<= /o:p>
All,
This = message initiates the IPP Working Group last call of the IPP Scan = Service specification updated per = prototype experience and subsequent discussions.
<= /o:p>
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509.= pdf
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippscan10-20140509= .pdf =
<= /o:p>
Please send = all feedback to the IPP mailing list (reply-all works fine for this) and = it will be collected and processed as quickly as possible. =
Our intent = is to move IPP Scan Service to PWG = Formal Vote before the August 2014 F2F.
<= /o:p>
Peter = Zehler

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From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed May 21 09:26:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6761A0858 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 09:26:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.44 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f40hGW6HnVtd for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 09:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D801A072E for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 09:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041B9858A; Wed, 21 May 2014 16:26:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe14:44:76:96:59:227]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE25D8589 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 16:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4ewv1o0021GhbT85CgScmK; Wed, 21 May 2014 16:26:36 +0000 Received: from lenovo ([50.187.214.212]) by omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4gSb1o00o4bXggJ3TgScDz; Wed, 21 May 2014 16:26:36 +0000 From: "William A Wagner" To: "'Ira McDonald'" , "'Kennedy, Smith $Wireless Architect$'" References: <06157AFB-D367-4B68-B3AC-F2F1A8A397FD@hp.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:26:36 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01cf7511$702d8940$50889bc0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac91C1NRHdIkKal6SemaJ73h/IxHYAAA6jQA Content-Language: en-us DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1400689596; bh=Ta37FqTyYiLzQ7iqhQb8c2PONtnhAOxFcZaKn0xKXQE=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=A6ZJZCHp52m3CznP7NjQDNRdFp3CRETQwYUeI99h5MLG35fSYdKgpYT/nTMytaCu8 5+zfXsB9J1LMl+ksVH/tCUG/wkK/qfK01x0u8/io3ZtzRkK2V2qYuaVeTGAL1Dg123 D3de5xoHzvsAg7vAQw+9QaP/RYzb5kuKxxlC833dzCRb2SH2ZFcbddaIqVCoW/tZxe 4pr26uTIQ6Crn3lvhNfuPrFOob6dnTW8mBi6brEs47pIfY3HlqsosR7NQDwdWhUGLi rCmgUTo0dYxpwAi/2jJzPXjrlJcGUmIZGzW3hpIpj/dFZ0AicUySEKJAGVifnXnK8q TYXKZaIxS/TpQ== Cc: ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or IPP Everywhere specs X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1291967898==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1291967898== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01CF74EF.E91BE940" Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CF74EF.E91BE940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As Ira suggests, I believe that it is very difficult to = =E2=80=9Cguarantee=E2=80=9D successful override, considering the = potential complexity and variations in the PDL. But = =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 is squishy and making it REQUIRED might = tempt some to report =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 even when the attempt = is halfhearted (or non-existent). That would make the value even more = unreliable. Perhaps we should have allowed a value of =E2=80=98best = effort=E2=80=99 meaning that the printer will really try. But I think = making =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 a minimum REQUIRED response may just = increase uncertainty. Better that the User understand that he is stuck = with what is in the PDL if there is not very good likelihood that the = overrides will be completely successful. Thanks, Bill Wagner =20 From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira = McDonald Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:42 AM To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect); Ira McDonald Cc: Subject: Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or = IPP Everywhere specs =20 Hi Smith, We've never made "pdl-override-supported" have 'guaranteed' as REQUIRED (even in IPP/2.1 or IPP/2.2 levels), because it's binary. =20 If you claim that your Printer supports 'guaranteed' then you have to be = able to *successfully* intercept and override everything in your interpreters = (vanishingly=20 unlikely in PDF, for example). =20 I agree with Mike that I've never seen a printer in the wild that = actually supported 'guaranteed'. I also agree that should make 'attempted' a REQUIRED value and = 'guaranteed' a RECOMMENDED value (explaining in the Implementors Guide that there are practical limitations w/ third-party interpreters to perfect override). Cheers, - Ira Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc = http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic = http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 =20 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) = wrote: Hi Mike, Since =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D is so squishy, why not mandate = =E2=80=9Cguaranteed=E2=80=9D? Including =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D = seems like a loophole. Smith /** Smith Kennedy ATB Wireless Architect - PPS Hewlett-Packard Co. */ On 2014-05-21, at 7:42 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > All, > > It has come to my attention that neither the IPP Everywhere nor the = PWG Raster Format specs explicitly call out required values for the = "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute. This attribute specifies = whether the Printer can override embedded job ticket information (such = as media size) when requested in a Job via the "ipp-attribute-fidelity" = or "job-mandatory-attributes" Job Template attributes. > > Generally speaking, Printers SHOULD support PDL override for the = standard PDLs in IPP Everywhere, including PWG Raster, JPEG, and PDF. = Typically this means forcing prints to a single media/size or forcing = simplex/duplex output, and is particularly important for JPEG. > > My recommendation is for us to add the following conformance statement = in a future revision of the IPP Everywhere specification: > > pdl-override-supported (type2 keyword) > > When reporting capabilities for the 'application/pdf', = 'image/jpeg', or 'image/pwg-raster' > MIME media types, Printers MUST report either 'attempted' or = 'guaranteed' for the > "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute, > > Thoughts? > > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CF74EF.E91BE940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As Ira suggests, I believe that it is very difficult to = =E2=80=9Cguarantee=E2=80=9D successful override, considering the = potential complexity and variations in the PDL. =C2=A0But = =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 is squishy =C2=A0and making it = REQUIRED=C2=A0 might tempt some to report =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 = even when the attempt is halfhearted (or non-existent). That would make = the value even more unreliable. Perhaps we should have allowed a value = of =E2=80=98best effort=E2=80=99 =C2=A0meaning that the printer will = really try. But I think making =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 a minimum = REQUIRED response may just increase uncertainty. Better that the User = understand that he is stuck with what is in the PDL=C2=A0 if there is = not=C2=A0 very good likelihood that =C2=A0the overrides will be = completely successful.

Thanks,

Bill Wagner

From:= = ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira = McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:42 AM
To: = Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect); Ira McDonald
Cc: = <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update = for PWG Raster Format and/or IPP Everywhere = specs

Hi = Smith,

We've never made = "pdl-override-supported" have 'guaranteed' as = REQUIRED

(even in IPP/2.1 or = IPP/2.2 levels), because it's binary.

If you claim that = your Printer supports 'guaranteed' then you have to be able = to
*successfully* intercept and override everything in your = interpreters (vanishingly
unlikely in PDF, for = example).

I = agree with Mike that I've never seen a printer in the wild that actually = supported

'guaranteed'.

I also agree that should make 'attempted' a REQUIRED = value and 'guaranteed'

a = RECOMMENDED value (explaining in the Implementors Guide that there = are

practical limitations w/ third-party = interpreters to perfect override).

Cheers,

- Ira

Cheers,

- Ira

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Kennedy, Smith = (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Since =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D is = so squishy, why not mandate =E2=80=9Cguaranteed=E2=80=9D? = Including =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D seems like a = loophole.

Smith

/**
Smith = Kennedy
ATB Wireless Architect - PPS
= Hewlett-Packard Co.
*/

On 2014-05-21, at 7:42 AM, Michael Sweet = <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

> All,
>
> It has come to my attention that = neither the IPP Everywhere nor the PWG Raster Format specs explicitly = call out required values for the "pdl-override-supported" = Printer attribute. This attribute specifies whether the Printer can = override embedded job ticket information (such as media size) when = requested in a Job via the "ipp-attribute-fidelity" or = "job-mandatory-attributes" Job Template = attributes.
>
> Generally speaking, Printers SHOULD support = PDL override for the standard PDLs in IPP Everywhere, including PWG = Raster, JPEG, and PDF. Typically this means forcing prints to a = single media/size or forcing simplex/duplex output, and is particularly = important for JPEG.
>
> My recommendation is for us to add = the following conformance statement in a future revision of the IPP = Everywhere specification:
>
> = pdl-override-supported (type2 keyword)
>
> = When reporting capabilities for the 'application/pdf', = 'image/jpeg', or 'image/pwg-raster'
> MIME media = types, Printers MUST report either 'attempted' or 'guaranteed' for = the
> "pdl-override-supported" Printer = attribute,
>
> Thoughts?
>
> = _________________________________________________________
> = Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair
>

> = _______________________________________________
> ipp mailing = list
> ipp@pwg.org
> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

_______________________________________________
ipp mailing = list
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https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp=

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I suggest that the Implementors Guide should document that the intended meaning of 'attempted' in RFC 2911 was and is 'best-effort'. There is no wiggle room in RFC 2911 (page 139), in my reading, that the Printer can say 'attempted' and then NOT make the attempt. I agree that making 'attempted' REQUIRED is cold comfort to Clients. I suggest that the definition of 'guaranteed' (NOT defined in RFC 2911, but rather in section 11 of JSP2, PWG 5100.11-2010) is so convoluted that it is not practical to implement. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:26 PM, William A Wagner w= rote: > As Ira suggests, I believe that it is very difficult to =E2=80=9Cguarante= e=E2=80=9D > successful override, considering the potential complexity and variations = in > the PDL. But =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 is squishy and making it REQUI= RED might tempt > some to report =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 even when the attempt is halfh= earted (or > non-existent). That would make the value even more unreliable. Perhaps we > should have allowed a value of =E2=80=98best effort=E2=80=99 meaning tha= t the printer will > really try. But I think making =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 a minimum REQU= IRED response may > just increase uncertainty. Better that the User understand that he is stu= ck > with what is in the PDL if there is not very good likelihood that the > overrides will be completely successful. > > Thanks, > > Bill Wagner > > > > *From:* ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] *On Behalf Of *I= ra > McDonald > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:42 AM > *To:* Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect); Ira McDonald > *Cc:* > *Subject:* Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or > IPP Everywhere specs > > > > Hi Smith, > > We've never made "pdl-override-supported" have 'guaranteed' as REQUIRED > > (even in IPP/2.1 or IPP/2.2 levels), because it's binary. > > If you claim that your Printer supports 'guaranteed' then you have to be > able to > *successfully* intercept and override everything in your interpreters > (vanishingly > unlikely in PDF, for example). > > > > I agree with Mike that I've never seen a printer in the wild that actuall= y > supported > > 'guaranteed'. > > I also agree that should make 'attempted' a REQUIRED value and 'guarantee= d' > > a RECOMMENDED value (explaining in the Implementors Guide that there are > > practical limitations w/ third-party interpreters to perfect override). > > Cheers, > > - Ira > > > > Cheers, > > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < > smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > Since =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D is so squishy, why not mandate =E2=80= =9Cguaranteed=E2=80=9D? Including > =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D seems like a loophole. > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > ATB Wireless Architect - PPS > Hewlett-Packard Co. > */ > > > > > On 2014-05-21, at 7:42 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > > All, > > > > It has come to my attention that neither the IPP Everywhere nor the PWG > Raster Format specs explicitly call out required values for the > "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute. This attribute specifies > whether the Printer can override embedded job ticket information (such as > media size) when requested in a Job via the "ipp-attribute-fidelity" or > "job-mandatory-attributes" Job Template attributes. > > > > Generally speaking, Printers SHOULD support PDL override for the > standard PDLs in IPP Everywhere, including PWG Raster, JPEG, and PDF. > Typically this means forcing prints to a single media/size or forcing > simplex/duplex output, and is particularly important for JPEG. > > > > My recommendation is for us to add the following conformance statement > in a future revision of the IPP Everywhere specification: > > > > pdl-override-supported (type2 keyword) > > > > When reporting capabilities for the 'application/pdf', 'image/jpeg', > or 'image/pwg-raster' > > MIME media types, Printers MUST report either 'attempted' or > 'guaranteed' for the > > "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute, > > > > Thoughts? > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > --089e013d055c0c25dd04f9ebc499 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

I agree with Bill's comments.

I suggest that the Imple= mentors Guide should document that the intended

meaning of 'at= tempted' in RFC 2911 was and is 'best-effort'.=C2=A0 There is n= o

wiggle room in RFC 2911 (page 139), in my reading, that the Printer c= an
say 'attempted' and then NOT make the attempt.

I= agree that making 'attempted' REQUIRED is cold comfort to Clients.=

I suggest that the definition of 'guaranteed' (NOT define= d in RFC 2911,
but rather in section 11 of JSP2, PWG 5100.11-2010) is so= convoluted

that it is not practical to implement.

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation O= pen Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Int= ernet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MI= B
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http:= //sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto: blue= roofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094=
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434=

<= /div>

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Willia= m A Wagner <wamwagner@comcast.net> wrote:

As Ira suggests, I believe that it is very d= ifficult to =E2=80=9Cguarantee=E2=80=9D successful override, considering th= e potential complexity and variations in the PDL. =C2=A0But =E2=80=98attemp= ted=E2=80=99 is squishy =C2=A0and making it REQUIRED=C2=A0 might tempt some= to report =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 even when the attempt is halfhearted= (or non-existent). That would make the value even more unreliable. Perhaps= we should have allowed a value of =E2=80=98best effort=E2=80=99 =C2=A0mean= ing that the printer will really try. But I think making =E2=80=98attempted= =E2=80=99 a minimum REQUIRED response may just increase uncertainty. Better= that the User understand that he is stuck with what is in the PDL=C2=A0 if= there is not=C2=A0 very good likelihood that =C2=A0the overrides will be c= ompletely successful.

Thanks,

Bill Wagner=

=C2=A0

From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [= mailto:ipp-bounces= @pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:42 AM
To: Kennedy, Smith = (Wireless Architect); Ira McDonald
Cc: <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP]= Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or IPP Everywhere specs<= u>

=C2=A0

Hi Smith,

We've never made "pdl-override-supported" have 'gu= aranteed' as REQUIRED

(even in IPP/2.1 or IPP/2.2 levels), because i= t's binary.=C2=A0

If you claim that your Printer supports '= guaranteed' then you have to be able to
*successfully* intercept and= override everything in your interpreters (vanishingly
unlikely in PDF, for example).

=C2=A0

I agree with M= ike that I've never seen a printer in the wild that actually supported<= u>

'guaranteed= '.

I also agree that= should make 'attempted' a REQUIRED value and 'guaranteed'<= u>

a RECOMMENDED value (explaining in the Im= plementors Guide that there are

practical limitations w/ third-party= interpreters to perfect override).

Cheers,

- Ira

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobi= lity Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary= - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Pri= nting Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High No= rth Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroo= fmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc=
mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094<= br>Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

= =C2=A0

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:22 = AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Since =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D is= so squishy, why not mandate =E2=80=9Cguaranteed=E2=80=9D? =C2=A0Including = =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D seems like a loophole.

Smith

/**<= br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Smith Kennedy
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ATB Wireless Architect - PP= S
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hewlett-Packard Co.
*/

On 2014-05-21, at 7:42 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>= wrote:

> All,
>
> It has come to my attention that neither the IPP = Everywhere nor the PWG Raster Format specs explicitly call out required val= ues for the "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute. This attr= ibute specifies whether the Printer can override embedded job ticket inform= ation (such as media size) when requested in a Job via the "ipp-attrib= ute-fidelity" or "job-mandatory-attributes" Job Template att= ributes.
>
> Generally speaking, Printers SHOULD support PDL override for t= he standard PDLs in IPP Everywhere, including PWG Raster, JPEG, and PDF. = =C2=A0Typically this means forcing prints to a single media/size or forcing= simplex/duplex output, and is particularly important for JPEG.
>
> My recommendation is for us to add the following conformance s= tatement in a future revision of the IPP Everywhere specification:
><= br>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0pdl-override-supported (type2 keyword)
>
>= =C2=A0 =C2=A0When reporting capabilities for the 'application/pdf'= , 'image/jpeg', or 'image/pwg-raster'
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0MIME media types, Printers MUST report either 'attemp= ted' or 'guaranteed' for the
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0"pdl-ove= rride-supported" Printer attribute,
>
> Thoughts?
><= br>> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
>

> _______________________________________________
> ipp mailin= g list
> ipp@pwg.org
&g= t; h= ttps://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

____________________= ___________________________
ipp mailing list
ipp@pw= g.org
https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

=C2=A0

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So I was wondering, is there a faster way to approach such a problem? Given that these are the running times of the albums in question (in MM:SS format), what is the fastes way for me to find the division of albums into 6 playlists of 4 such that the lengths of each of the playlists is as close to each other as possible? 39:03 41:08 41:39 42:54 44:31 44:34 44:40 45:55 45:59 47:06 47:20 47:53 49:35 49:57 50:15 51:35 51:50 55:45 58:10 58:11 59:48 59:58 60:00 61:08 I did the math and considering the total time for all the albums, having 6 playlists that run at 200 minutes and 49 seconds would be perfect... but since the individual album lengths probably don't allow for that exact of a division, what would be the most exact possible division is my question. NOTE: I could actually do this manually and get a close enough approximation that would suffice, but I am still really interested on how it could be done through a program. Thanks algorithm language-agnostic share|improve this question edited May 16 at 3:28 asked May 16 at 3:16 heisenbergman 3909 I suggest that you start by trying to describe the steps of an algorithm in English. Don't worry about which programming language you might eventually implement it in. Code-Guru May 16 at 3:18 @Code-Guru True. Sorry. It's just I have experience with answers being posted in code that I couldn't understand which is why I thought to specifiy that I would be doing this in Java. heisenbergman May 16 at 3:25 1 I found this paper which uses genetic algorithms: scholar.google.com/ . You need to define precisely what is meant by "as close to each other as possible", since that is only unambiguous for a partition into 2 sets. The paper I cite uses the Euclidean norm, while the problem cited by @hammar uses "least maximum"; another metric sometimes used is "difference between largest and smallest". rici May 16 at 3:57 @rici this seems interesting It details exactly the kind of problem I want to solve. 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Wed, 21 May 2014 10:34:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Sweet In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 13:34:06 -0400 Message-id: References: <06157AFB-D367-4B68-B3AC-F2F1A8A397FD@hp.com> <000e01cf7511$702d8940$50889bc0$@net> To: Ira McDonald X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpnkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRnG5nqDvhcU2wwec9phbH9r1kcWD0mLd4 OlMAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxo3F55kKPkVU3Dh1hK2B8UJQFyMnh4SAiUT/sZlsELaYxIV7 64FsLg4hgZlMEgfOPWIBSfAKCEr8mHyPBSIxmUmidf8FNpjuuz+2s8Eldq66CdYB5mydntPF yMEhLBAn8eR0AUgNs8AURon9i/qYQGrYBNQkfk/qYwWxOQWCJZb1X2AEsVkEVCWadl9lB7GZ BTwldn/fyAhxhY3E5mfvmCCWLWKS2DxnIgvIAhEBLYklzxUhDpKVePShCexSCYFDbBK3dl9m mcAoPAvJF7OQHTILbEmSxLqDmxkhbG2JZQtfM88CmsssoCMxeSGaMIT98fwRqFZTiSdvt7NB 2NYSP+c8gqpXlJjS/ZB9ASPXKkah3MTMHN3MPHO9xIKCnFS95PzcTYyQmBPbwfhwldUhRgEO RiUe3hvna4KFWBPLiitzDzFKc7AoifNm7KwOFhJITyxJzU5NLUgtii8qzUktPsTIxMEp1cBY tT/vwIxlbYvzKnnPWrNIaJt+OzL3XP+WIqdj/3q3cAq8WhDv5eJdcuLny1wPLr1V7qm8f/UX H2+qr1kaqB/n5HNo+kVHwfWn/qyp3tObu4atvyddd+UmYQ75aav3P5n/ZPappTs54gXLbp43 9lw6+1XX6wvcF6+bTGrmPrz34k1GZpEn6Ty1SizFGYmGWsxFxYkATC1kR5oCAAA= X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrJLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUi2FCcqDvxcU2wwdU2Potj+16yODB6zFs8 nSmAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEr48bi80wFnyIqbpw6wtbAeCGoi5GTQ0LAROLuj+1sELaYxIV7 64FsLg4hgclMElNvvAdLgDlbp+d0MXJwCAvESTw5XQAS5hXQkzhz9hc7SD2zwBRGif2L+phA EmwCahK/J/WxgticAsESy/ovMILYLAKqEk27r7KD2MwCnhK7v29khBhkI7H52TsmiMWLmCQ2 z5nIArJMREBLYslzRYjjZCUefWhimcDIPwvJ7lnIds8Cm5skse7gZkYIW1ti2cLXzLOARjEL 6EhMXogmDGF/PH8EqtVU4snb7WwQtrXEzzmPoOoVJaZ0P2RfwMi1ilGgKDUnsdJCL7GgICdV Lzk/dxMjOBIK03YwNi23OsQowMGoxMN743xNsBBrYllxZe4hRhWgEY82rL7AKMWSl5+XqiTC O/scUJo3JbGyKrUoP76oNCe1+BCjNAeLkjhvty1QSiA9sSQ1OzW1ILUIJsvEwSnVwFifHxNd 5uyfYFnEOenz6yju45rlxbsfSu0McFxjvHXiDk+WGyZPFDk75baf3Db7+uzM1Pt8HLsnTVVR +bngTtIuD9m1M5MEwpn3nTFbam6i/jBtVUejX0nX43cTXh1P7TihKrNe+vauN1N/zOVPn3ic Zfq8trOLPp3k0LEs2Ri3buPNLL6Vez4qsRRnJBpqMRcVJwIAVGyCvIwCAAA= Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or IPP Everywhere specs X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1093141003==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1093141003== Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C833370D-72D9-4047-87B5-BD1C42313C44"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_C833370D-72D9-4047-87B5-BD1C42313C44 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F9F441C2-82E0-4129-A898-5B411E0B86C6" --Apple-Mail=_F9F441C2-82E0-4129-A898-5B411E0B86C6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ira, On May 21, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Ira McDonald = wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I agree with Bill's comments. >=20 > I suggest that the Implementors Guide should document that the = intended > meaning of 'attempted' in RFC 2911 was and is 'best-effort'. There is = no > wiggle room in RFC 2911 (page 139), in my reading, that the Printer = can > say 'attempted' and then NOT make the attempt. The wiggle room is that the printer can make the attempt and fail, = leading to inconsistent results and (likely) no logging of/state changes = for the issue. But if we can document things properly in the = Implementor's Guide I think we'll be in a lot better shape. FWIW, I don't think it would be hard to support 'guaranteed' for JPEG or = PWG Raster, but PDF is another matter... :/ (and older PDLs like PostScript and PCL are a lost cause for that sort = of thing...) _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair --Apple-Mail=_F9F441C2-82E0-4129-A898-5B411E0B86C6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Ira,

On May 21, 2014, at 12:48 PM, = Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:

Hi,

= I agree with Bill's comments.

I suggest that the = Implementors Guide should document that the intended
meaning of = 'attempted' in RFC 2911 was and is 'best-effort'. There is no

wiggle room in RFC 2911 (page 139), in my reading, that the = Printer can
say 'attempted' and then NOT make the = attempt.

The wiggle room is that the printer can make the attempt and fail, = leading to inconsistent results and (likely) no logging of/state changes = for the issue. But if we can document things properly in the = Implementor's Guide I think we'll be in a lot better = shape.

FWIW, I don't think it would be hard to = support 'guaranteed' for JPEG or PWG Raster, but PDF is another = matter... :/

(and older PDLs like PostScript = and PCL are a lost cause for that sort of = thing...)

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Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

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text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --===============1093141003==-- From MiguelHarrington@marocmama.crybitcrown.com Wed May 21 10:51:59 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786D81A03DA for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 10:51:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.147 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.147 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EWDD6yUSHNoG for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 10:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marocmama.crybitcrown.com (marocmama.crybitcrown.com [198.59.123.27]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627911A0346 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 10:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: New Craving Killer Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 10:51:55 -0700 Message-ID: <20140521155844.8207.61180.DEYGHN.20140521155844.8207.61180@crybitcrown.com> Subject: Doc Oz Episode Clip: Top Rated Ep (5/15) To: DocOz has begun his Fat-Melting Countdown to Memorial Day Episode # 508 Continue eating what you want and erase inches off waist and trouble areas. You read this correctly... Continue eating sugar, salt and carbs and drop 1lb per day. Outsmart your metabolism with this: / http://www.crybitcrown.com/docoz/episode/recap/meltingFat.video - Remember Memorial Day is a few weeks away, and you could be 15 lbs lighter by then. - The DocOz Show - Episode Archives -> http://www.crybitcrown.com/docoz/episode/recap/meltingFat.video setting changes can be requested to: Urgent Info Services 3205 Lake Sarah Independence, MN 55359- http://www.crybitcrown.com/snfo3/sgjvo40.bgno4 for a beginner question that actually demonstrates what you have tried, and your thought process. Chris Laplante Apr 27 at 23:02 13 Generally, the length of good code is proportional to the length of the english describing what it does. So when your "specification" says 11-20, 31-40, 51-60, 71-80, 91-100, you can expect your code to mention those numbers also. If those numbers come from somewhere or were generated by some reason, see if you can code the reason rather than the numbers. luqui Apr 27 at 23:10 3 @luqui Thanks for this, I haven't heard of that philosophy before. I've repeatedly fallen into the thought process of "Man, I could make this a lot more efficient and a lot smaller." and I assume that my code is bad. Perhaps I am discounting how important readability is. I guess there is a balance that I'll have to work on. user3419168 Apr 27 at 23:21 34 @user3419168: The compiler cares not a bit how readable your code is; it will compile it in a fraction of a second. But for the humans reading your code, the choices you make can cause it to be comprehended in seconds, minutes, hours, or never. This imposes a cost; people get paid to read and understand code, so make it easy on them. Always write production code to maximize readability, and remember that concision does not necessarily make code perform better. Eric Lippert Apr 28 at 3:15 8 This is a decent question, and I don't want to take anything away from the poster at all, but this does not deserve 500+ points. This is how we end up with some of the nonsense we do with people with thousands of points appearing to be authorities here. (Feel free to move this comment if it belongs elsewhere.) GaTechThomas May 1 at 21:08@user3419168, just by itself it leaves one to wonder what in the world it means. It gives no hints as to what in the world its trying to do. That's why in the edit I showed a version that splits the logic into a function which makes it clearer what the calculations are actually doing. Winston Ewert Apr 27 at 23:14 3 It may be prudent to also assert num >= 11 as (1) that lower limit is proscribed, and (2) % on a negative number returns a negative number as well. (I must admit using & 1 here is "safer" but also assumes additional knowledge.) Jongware Apr 27 at 23:26 2 +1 for the Edit, it gets into the why of the list of ranges and presents it in a readable manner. IMO, one step up would be to wrap the getRow(num) % 2 == 0 in a function as well to make it crystal clear what the intent is. bool inEvenRow(int num){ return getRow(num) % 2 ==0;} Mr.Mindor Apr 28 at 14:43 I'd still go for the clever code, but turn it into maintainable code by extracting functions. It would be just as readable if that last bit said && isTensDigitOdd(num), perhaps with a comment before the function definition explaining what it does. If such a pattern exists, a comment explaining the reasoning for the pattern is enlightening for maintainability imo. chris Apr 28 at 2:39 3 Chris, that's a great strategy when the "cleverness" has a clear advantage: much shorter code (which means less chance of a typo, especially if it changes), or a large improvement in efficiency. There's almost always a tradeoff between brevity, clarity, and efficiency, and finding a good compromise is a great skill to develop. (2151844/29157 for a snicker.) Adam Liss Apr 28 at 12:55 1 This is a much better approach. So much easier to understand than the 'clever code' and the performance difference is probably negligible. user1477388 Apr 28 at 13:19 @AdamLiss, Yes, my opinion is of little value as I haven't had enough experience to see the repercussions of these decisions. I'm sure I will soon enough, and I'll be sure to get a second opinion if needed. chris Apr 29 at 5:40 1 Don't sell yourself short. Your instincts are very sensible, and you seem eager to keep learning. Every opinion is valuable if there From AriannaSchneider@marocmama.crybitcrown.com Wed May 21 10:55:08 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3D51A06FE for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 10:55:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.755 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.755 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.886, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.922, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cNz9iIeya78U for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 10:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marocmama.crybitcrown.com (marocmama.crybitcrown.com [198.59.123.27]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D741D1A06DE for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 10:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: From: New Craving Killer Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 10:55:05 -0700 Message-ID: <20140521172626.11390.39354.33d6191e6dfc61a4f75790dc2e9490ca@email.marocmama.crybitcrown.com> Subject: DocOz countdown begins... DocOz has begun his Fat-Melting Countdown to Memorial Day Episode # 508 Continue eating what you want and erase inches off waist and trouble areas. You read this correctly... Continue eating sugar, salt and carbs and drop 1lb per day. Outsmart your metabolism with this: / http://www.crybitcrown.com/docoz/episode/recap/meltingFat.video - Remember Memorial Day is a few weeks away, and you could be 15 lbs lighter by then. - The DocOz Show - Episode Archives -> http://www.crybitcrown.com/docoz/episode/recap/meltingFat.video setting changes can be requested to: Urgent Info Services 3205 Lake Sarah Independence, MN 55359- http://www.crybitcrown.com/snfo3/sgjvo40.bgno4 for a beginner question that actually demonstrates what you have tried, and your thought process. Chris Laplante Apr 27 at 23:02 13 Generally, the length of good code is proportional to the length of the english describing what it does. So when your "specification" says 11-20, 31-40, 51-60, 71-80, 91-100, you can expect your code to mention those numbers also. If those numbers come from somewhere or were generated by some reason, see if you can code the reason rather than the numbers. luqui Apr 27 at 23:10 3 @luqui Thanks for this, I haven't heard of that philosophy before. I've repeatedly fallen into the thought process of "Man, I could make this a lot more efficient and a lot smaller." and I assume that my code is bad. Perhaps I am discounting how important readability is. I guess there is a balance that I'll have to work on. user3419168 Apr 27 at 23:21 34 @user3419168: The compiler cares not a bit how readable your code is; it will compile it in a fraction of a second. But for the humans reading your code, the choices you make can cause it to be comprehended in seconds, minutes, hours, or never. This imposes a cost; people get paid to read and understand code, so make it easy on them. Always write production code to maximize readability, and remember that concision does not necessarily make code perform better. Eric Lippert Apr 28 at 3:15 8 This is a decent question, and I don't want to take anything away from the poster at all, but this does not deserve 500+ points. This is how we end up with some of the nonsense we do with people with thousands of points appearing to be authorities here. (Feel free to move this comment if it belongs elsewhere.) GaTechThomas May 1 at 21:08@user3419168, just by itself it leaves one to wonder what in the world it means. It gives no hints as to what in the world its trying to do. That's why in the edit I showed a version that splits the logic into a function which makes it clearer what the calculations are actually doing. Winston Ewert Apr 27 at 23:14 3 It may be prudent to also assert num >= 11 as (1) that lower limit is proscribed, and (2) % on a negative number returns a negative number as well. (I must admit using & 1 here is "safer" but also assumes additional knowledge.) Jongware Apr 27 at 23:26 2 +1 for the Edit, it gets into the why of the list of ranges and presents it in a readable manner. IMO, one step up would be to wrap the getRow(num) % 2 == 0 in a function as well to make it crystal clear what the intent is. bool inEvenRow(int num){ return getRow(num) % 2 ==0;} Mr.Mindor Apr 28 at 14:43 I'd still go for the clever code, but turn it into maintainable code by extracting functions. It would be just as readable if that last bit said && isTensDigitOdd(num), perhaps with a comment before the function definition explaining what it does. If such a pattern exists, a comment explaining the reasoning for the pattern is enlightening for maintainability imo. chris Apr 28 at 2:39 3 Chris, that's a great strategy when the "cleverness" has a clear advantage: much shorter code (which means less chance of a typo, especially if it changes), or a large improvement in efficiency. There's almost always a tradeoff between brevity, clarity, and efficiency, and finding a good compromise is a great skill to develop. (2151844/29157 for a snicker.) Adam Liss Apr 28 at 12:55 1 This is a much better approach. So much easier to understand than the 'clever code' and the performance difference is probably negligible. user1477388 Apr 28 at 13:19 @AdamLiss, Yes, my opinion is of little value as I haven't had enough experience to see the repercussions of these decisions. I'm sure I will soon enough, and I'll be sure to get a second opinion if needed. chris Apr 29 at 5:40 1 Don't sell yourself short. Your instincts are very sensible, and you seem eager to keep learning. 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From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Wed May 21 12:24:06 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67851A052E for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 12:24:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AC_DIV_BONANZA=0.001, BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.428, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KSZpI44f3bza for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 12:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.pwg.org (www.pwg.org [IPv6:2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe70:b03f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB971A02D7 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 12:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400838595; Wed, 21 May 2014 19:24:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: ipp@pwg.org Delivered-To: ipp@pwg.org Received: from mail-ig0-x229.google.com (mail-ig0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229]) by www.pwg.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A8368591 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 19:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f169.google.com with SMTP id hl10so7165670igb.4 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 12:24:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=8AadsPkHjGKoBNu+c2YZ0u2LIhRXAuxUl2VTn2ANSNs=; b=mWsO7gB+7EsTeJDaYxJVVrFZdusGxZIrMJKaGHSvqkepKB84z/G2IddognA+dlSIcS aqqDUxWF5ZYeWjZ0ufDWeOG1sAWPk8aK8nSTaB08m1Y5uaTuxg2XG4qDfNlqPW8Joa79 FZa+Gczr7dRvuD0gHOyU5AJptfLc2diQLCUSlL4pOSHvl5Sz3n5kKSs+2+andCcqBBQp yyFNuwXo4SjdjcM7ZRJ/689PgbIIWWxq+1m12jydvTrMSn4/H4eNYk+uAbhClupIOOgY vVLUj24pk9ca+QReF+rJHwRX8KZyR8A16hkyk3Eto34KpFLzo4gwLixYLFtxw8LRIMQQ VhdQ== X-Received: by 10.50.143.104 with SMTP id sd8mr16597986igb.18.1400700240287; Wed, 21 May 2014 12:24:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.168.100 with HTTP; Wed, 21 May 2014 12:23:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <06157AFB-D367-4B68-B3AC-F2F1A8A397FD@hp.com> <000e01cf7511$702d8940$50889bc0$@net> From: Ira McDonald Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 15:23:39 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Zehler, Peter" , Ira McDonald Cc: "ipp@pwg.org" Subject: Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or IPP Everywhere specs X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0422701367==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============0422701367== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135f1a64280de04f9edf082 --001a1135f1a64280de04f9edf082 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pete, But what Mike just said is that it is feasible to implement 'guaranteed' for PWG Raster and JPEG, but hard for PDF, PostScript, PCL, etc. I agree with Mike. There are a lot of embedded processing features in these "higher-level" PDLs that mean really supporting 'guaranteed' requires access to (and probably modification of) the source code of the PDL interpreters. And 'attempted' isn't a useful feature (for Clients), because it's basicall= y unreliable. Although one could do tricks with Client submitting a Job on hold and Printer sending "successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes" (so that the client could tell that the override was partial and WHERE it wasn't performed). Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Zehler, Peter wrot= e: > All, > > I don=E2=80=99t believe that that the definition of 'guaranteed' is so c= onvoluted > that it is not practical to implement. It is implemented in some high en= d > production environments. I believe that 'guaranteed' value is applicable > to a small segment of the printing market and not applicable to the IPP > everywhere or PWG Raster discussion. > > Pete > > > > Peter Zehler > > Xerox Research Center Webster > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com > Office: +1 (585) 265-8755 > > Mobile: +1 (585) 329-9508 > FAX: +1 (585) 265-7441 > US Mail: Peter Zehler > Xerox Corp. > 800 Phillips Rd. > M/S 128-25E > Webster NY, 14580-9701 > > > > *From:* ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] *On Behalf Of *I= ra > McDonald > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:48 PM > *To:* William A Wagner; Ira McDonald > > *Cc:* ipp@pwg.org > *Subject:* Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or > IPP Everywhere specs > > > > Hi, > > I agree with Bill's comments. > > I suggest that the Implementors Guide should document that the intended > > meaning of 'attempted' in RFC 2911 was and is 'best-effort'. There is no > > wiggle room in RFC 2911 (page 139), in my reading, that the Printer can > say 'attempted' and then NOT make the attempt. > > I agree that making 'attempted' REQUIRED is cold comfort to Clients. > > > I suggest that the definition of 'guaranteed' (NOT defined in RFC 2911, > but rather in section 11 of JSP2, PWG 5100.11-2010) is so convoluted > > that it is not practical to implement. > > Cheers, > > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:26 PM, William A Wagner > wrote: > > As Ira suggests, I believe that it is very difficult to =E2=80=9Cguarante= e=E2=80=9D > successful override, considering the potential complexity and variations = in > the PDL. But =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 is squishy and making it REQUI= RED might tempt > some to report =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 even when the attempt is halfh= earted (or > non-existent). That would make the value even more unreliable. Perhaps we > should have allowed a value of =E2=80=98best effort=E2=80=99 meaning tha= t the printer will > really try. But I think making =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 a minimum REQU= IRED response may > just increase uncertainty. Better that the User understand that he is stu= ck > with what is in the PDL if there is not very good likelihood that the > overrides will be completely successful. > > Thanks, > > Bill Wagner > > > > *From:* ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] *On Behalf Of *I= ra > McDonald > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:42 AM > *To:* Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect); Ira McDonald > *Cc:* > *Subject:* Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or > IPP Everywhere specs > > > > Hi Smith, > > We've never made "pdl-override-supported" have 'guaranteed' as REQUIRED > > (even in IPP/2.1 or IPP/2.2 levels), because it's binary. > > If you claim that your Printer supports 'guaranteed' then you have to be > able to > *successfully* intercept and override everything in your interpreters > (vanishingly > unlikely in PDF, for example). > > > > I agree with Mike that I've never seen a printer in the wild that actuall= y > supported > > 'guaranteed'. > > I also agree that should make 'attempted' a REQUIRED value and 'guarantee= d' > > a RECOMMENDED value (explaining in the Implementors Guide that there are > > practical limitations w/ third-party interpreters to perfect override). > > Cheers, > > - Ira > > > > Cheers, > > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 > Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < > smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > Since =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D is so squishy, why not mandate =E2=80= =9Cguaranteed=E2=80=9D? Including > =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D seems like a loophole. > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > ATB Wireless Architect - PPS > Hewlett-Packard Co. > */ > > > > > On 2014-05-21, at 7:42 AM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > > All, > > > > It has come to my attention that neither the IPP Everywhere nor the PWG > Raster Format specs explicitly call out required values for the > "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute. This attribute specifies > whether the Printer can override embedded job ticket information (such as > media size) when requested in a Job via the "ipp-attribute-fidelity" or > "job-mandatory-attributes" Job Template attributes. > > > > Generally speaking, Printers SHOULD support PDL override for the > standard PDLs in IPP Everywhere, including PWG Raster, JPEG, and PDF. > Typically this means forcing prints to a single media/size or forcing > simplex/duplex output, and is particularly important for JPEG. > > > > My recommendation is for us to add the following conformance statement > in a future revision of the IPP Everywhere specification: > > > > pdl-override-supported (type2 keyword) > > > > When reporting capabilities for the 'application/pdf', 'image/jpeg', > or 'image/pwg-raster' > > MIME media types, Printers MUST report either 'attempted' or > 'guaranteed' for the > > "pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute, > > > > Thoughts? > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > > > > --001a1135f1a64280de04f9edf082 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Printer sending "successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes"= (so
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wasn't performed).

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG T= rusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Int= ernet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MI= B
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http:= //sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto: blue= roofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094=
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434=

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On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Zehler,= Peter <Peter.Zehler@xerox.com> wrote:

All,=

I don=E2=80=99t believe t= hat that the definition of 'guaranteed' =C2=A0is so convoluted that= it is not practical to implement.=C2=A0 It is implemented in some high end= production environments.=C2=A0 I believe that 'guaranteed' value is applicabl= e to a small segment of the printing market and not applicable to the IPP e= verywhere or PWG Raster discussion.

Pete

=C2=A0

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler@Xe= rox.com
Office: +1 (585) 265-8755=

Mobile: +1 (585) 329= -9508
FAX: +1 (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.<= br> 800 Phillips Rd.
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From: ipp-bounces@pwg.org [= mailto:ipp-bounces= @pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:48 PM
To: William A Wagner; Ira McDonald
=
Cc: ipp@pwg.org=
Subject: Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and= /or IPP Everywhere specs

=C2=A0

Hi,

I agree with Bill'= ;s comments.

I suggest that the Implementors Guide should documen= t that the intended

meaning of 'attempted' in RFC 2911 was and i= s 'best-effort'.=C2=A0 There is no

wiggle room in RFC 29= 11 (page 139), in my reading, that the Printer can
say 'attempted' and then NOT make the attempt.

I agree that making 'attempted' REQUIRED is = cold comfort to Clients.

I suggest that the definition of 'guaranteed' (NOT defined in RFC 2= 911,
but rather in section 11 of JSP2, PWG 5100.11-2010) is so convoluted=

that it is not practi= cal to implement.

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musicia= n / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:26 PM, William A Wagner &= lt;wamwagner@com= cast.net> wrote:

As Ira suggests, I believ= e that it is very difficult to =E2=80=9Cguarantee=E2=80=9D successful overr= ide, considering the potential complexity and variations in the PDL. =C2=A0But =E2=80=98att= empted=E2=80=99 is squishy =C2=A0and making it REQUIRED=C2=A0 might tempt s= ome to report =E2=80=98attempted=E2=80=99 even when the attempt is halfhear= ted (or non-existent). That would make the value even more unreliable. Perh= aps we should have allowed a value of =E2=80=98best effort=E2=80=99 =C2=A0mean= ing that the printer will really try. But I think making =E2=80=98attempted= =E2=80=99 a minimum REQUIRED response may just increase uncertainty. Better= that the User understand that he is stuck with what is in the PDL=C2=A0 if there is not=C2=A0 very good likelihood that =C2=A0the overrides will be c= ompletely successful.

Thanks,<= /u>

Bill Wagner=

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From: ipp-bounces@pwg.or= g [mailto:ipp-= bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:42 AM
To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect); Ira McDonald
Cc: <ipp@pwg.org= >
Subject: Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and= /or IPP Everywhere specs

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Hi Smith,

We've never made "pdl-override-supported&qu= ot; have 'guaranteed' as REQUIRED

(even in IPP/2.1 or IPP/2.2 levels), because it'= s binary.=C2=A0

If you claim that your Printer supports 'guaranteed' then you have = to be able to
*successfully* intercept and override everything in your interpreters (vani= shingly
unlikely in PDF, for example).

=C2=A0

I agree with Mike that I've never seen a printer= in the wild that actually supported

'guaranteed'.=

I also agree that should make 'attempted' a = REQUIRED value and 'guaranteed'

a RECOMMENDED value (explaining in the Implementors = Guide that there are

practical limitations= w/ third-party interpreters to perfect override).

Cheers,

- Ira

=C2=A0<= /p>

Cheers,

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musicia= n / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc=
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Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

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On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wi= reless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Since =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D is so squishy, why not mandate =E2=80=9Cg= uaranteed=E2=80=9D? =C2=A0Including =E2=80=9Cattempted=E2=80=9D seems like = a loophole.

Smith

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On 2014-05-21, at 7:42 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> It has come to my attention that neither the IPP Everywhere nor the PW= G Raster Format specs explicitly call out required values for the "pdl= -override-supported" Printer attribute. This attribute specifies wheth= er the Printer can override embedded job ticket information (such as media size) when requested in a Job via the "ipp= -attribute-fidelity" or "job-mandatory-attributes" Job Templ= ate attributes.
>
> Generally speaking, Printers SHOULD support PDL override for the stand= ard PDLs in IPP Everywhere, including PWG Raster, JPEG, and PDF. =C2=A0Typi= cally this means forcing prints to a single media/size or forcing simplex/d= uplex output, and is particularly important for JPEG.
>
> My recommendation is for us to add the following conformance statement= in a future revision of the IPP Everywhere specification:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0pdl-override-supported (type2 keyword)
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0When reporting capabilities for the 'application/pdf&= #39;, 'image/jpeg', or 'image/pwg-raster'
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0MIME media types, Printers MUST report either 'attemp= ted' or 'guaranteed' for the
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0"pdl-override-supported" Printer attribute,
>
> Thoughts?
>
> _________________________________________________________
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On May 21, 2014, at 3:23 PM, = Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:

...
Although one could do tricks with Client = submitting a Job on hold and
Printer sending "successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes" (so =
that the client could tell that the override was partial and WHERE = it
wasn't = performed).

... and in = cases where job hold/release is not supported, the xxx-actual attributes = can be used to track things as well - I think Smith already says = something about this in the 'guide. Of course, that presumes that = the IPP Printer has access to the values used by the PDL for a given job = - probably more likely than being able to do PDL override from my = experience, but still not 'guaranteed' (there's that word = again...)

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Michael = Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG = Chair

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<3296D306-D12C-423D-A4D7-67B39755B446@apple.com> In-Reply-To: <3296D306-D12C-423D-A4D7-67B39755B446@apple.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [16.216.12.26] MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or IPP Everywhere specs X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1198152732==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1198152732== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_490EF372-D3AC-465F-943A-1B4AB4546EEA"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_490EF372-D3AC-465F-943A-1B4AB4546EEA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_090D5668-9896-4CF8-92FA-E48AB9D12F7C" --Apple-Mail=_090D5668-9896-4CF8-92FA-E48AB9D12F7C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On 2014-05-21, at 2:23 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > On May 21, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Ira McDonald = wrote: >> ... >> Although one could do tricks with Client submitting a Job on hold and=20= >> Printer sending "successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes" (so=20= >> that the client could tell that the override was partial and WHERE it=20= >> wasn't performed). >=20 > ... and in cases where job hold/release is not supported, the = xxx-actual attributes can be used to track things as well - I think = Smith already says something about this in the 'guide. Of course, that = presumes that the IPP Printer has access to the values used by the PDL = for a given job - probably more likely than being able to do PDL = override from my experience, but still not 'guaranteed' (there's that = word again...) >=20 And as we have discussed, since the Printer doesn=92t bind values to = xxx-actual until processing time or perhaps slightly earlier in some = cases, this is basically =93after the fact=94. This may tell the Client = whether something was used or not, but doesn=92t allow the Client to try = to do something about it or have a sense before processing of what will = happen at processing time. Smith= --Apple-Mail=_090D5668-9896-4CF8-92FA-E48AB9D12F7C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

On 2014-05-21, at 2:23 PM, Michael = Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

On May 21, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> = wrote:
...
Although one could do tricks with Client = submitting a Job on hold and
Printer sending = "successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes" (so
that the client could = tell that the override was partial and WHERE it
wasn't = performed).

... and in cases where job hold/release = is not supported, the xxx-actual attributes can be used to track things = as well - I think Smith already says something about this in the 'guide. = Of course, that presumes that the IPP Printer has access to the = values used by the PDL for a given job - probably more likely than being = able to do PDL override from my experience, but still not 'guaranteed' = (there's that word again...)

And as = we have discussed, since the Printer doesn=92t bind values to xxx-actual = until processing time or perhaps slightly earlier in some cases, this is = basically =93after the fact=94. This may tell the Client whether = something was used or not, but doesn=92t allow the Client to try to do = something about it or have a sense before processing of what will happen = at processing time.

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In 1915, the City of San Juan, Puerto Rico, paid tribute to the crew of the cutter Algonquin and presented them with an Official Resolution of Thanks. In 1935, BMC Pablo Valent was given command of the Port Isabel (Texas) Boat Station, becoming the first Hispanic-American to do so.On September 28, 1925, CWO2 Joseph B. Aviles, Sr. (18971990), born in a farm near the town of Naranjito, Puerto Rico when the island was still a Spanish colony, became the first Hispanic Chief Petty Officer in the Coast Guard. During World War II he received a war-time promotion to Chief Warrant Officer, becoming the first Hispanic to reach that level as well. Aviles joined the United States Navy in 1915 and served seven years and eight months, eventually reaching the rank of Chief Gunner's Mate(rank equiv alent to Chief Petty Officer/E-7). During the years that he served in the Navy, the United States Congress passed the Jones-Shafroth Act (1917) which conferred United States citizenship on all citizens of Puerto Rico. On September 28, 1925, he entered the United States Coast Guard with the rank of Chief Gunners Mate and served for two years before re-enlisting on September 11, 1928. World War IILt. (jg) Clarence SamuelsDuring World War II, the Coast Guard was transferred to the Department of the Navy and as such many men saw action in said conflict.Upon the outbreak of World War II, Joseph B. Aviles, Sr. received a war-time promotion to Chief Warrant Officer (November 27, 1944), thus becoming the first Hispanic American to reach that level as well. He retired from the Coast Guard on July 27, 1946 and worked as a security guard at a hospital in Baltimore until 1962 when at the age of 65 he retired. Aviles plain-coloured sheep with slightly darker markings where the two patterns meet.There is also a single allele that is currently found only in Iceland that displays as Gray Mouflonit is separate from the normal Mouflon pattern. This single gene is dominant to all genes other than White.The least dominant pattern is solid, which is essentially no pattern at all. Solid-patterned animals will simply show their base color all over. To be solid, a sheep must inherit the solid pattern from both parentsthe parents could be solid themselves, or they could carry a solid allele hidden by another other pattern allele.White sheep can also carry any one of the five other patterns, but it will be hidden by the dominant white color (note that white in sheep is genetically a pattern, not a color). Lambs are not fed grain or given hormones. The lambs are ready for killing by four to five months, when they weigh 70 to 90 pounds (32 to 41 kg). The meat has a fine grain and distinct, delicate flavor. The meat of the Icelandic sheep is considered a gourmet style of meat. After the first two weeks, the lambs were weaned off the mother's milk. Then for the next 6 weeks, the ewes would be milked daily. Most provided about 1 litre (2imppt) of milk per day, while good ewes gave 2 litres (4imppt) to 3 litres (5imppt). The milk was used directly, or made into butter, cheese, an Icelandic soft cheese called skyr, or naturally sweet yogurt. Sheep milk is good for Visa policy of Brazil, The government of Brazil allows citizens of specific countries and territories to travel to Brazil without a visa.Visa policyContents1 Visa waivers2 Visa types and requirements2.1 Tourist visa2.2 Short-stay business visa2.3 Temporary residence visa/work visa2.4 Permanent visas2.5 Business people and professionals2.6 Investors2.7 Retired people2.8 Registration2.9 Citizenship3 References Visa waiversCitizens of the following countries do not need a passport or visa to visit Brazil for tourism or business, if the trip does not exceed 90 days (60 days for citizens of Venezuela). An identity document is accepted instead of a passport.Business (visa waiver agreement for tourism already exists)Bosnia and Herzegovina02010-06-1919 June 2010Tourism or business (reinstatement of previously suspended agreement)Brazilian nationals must enter and leave Brazil with their Brazilian passport or Brazilian identity card, even if they also hold a passport of another country. Tour ist visaEligibilityTouristsPeople visiting relatives or friendsUnpaid participation in athletic or artistic event or competition. An invitation letter from the sponsoring organization in Brazil is required.Unpaid participation in a scientific/academic seminar or conference sponsored by a re or academic institution. David Luenberger, This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful. (February 2013) David G. Luenberger (born in 1937) is a mathematical scientist known for his re and his textbooks, which center on mathematical optimization. He is a professor in the department of Management Science and Engineering at Stanford University.Contents1 Biography2 Books3 References4 External links BooksInformation Science, Princeton University Press, 2006Investment Science, Oxford University Press, New York, 1997.Microeconomic Theory, McGraw-Hill, Inc., New York, 1995.Luenberger, David G.; Ye, Yinyu (2008). Linear and nonlinear programming. International Series in Operations Re & Management Science 116 (Third ed.). New York: Springer. pp.xiv+546. ISBN978-0-387-74502-2. MR2423726.Introductio n to Dynamic Systems: Theory, Models and Applications, John Wiley and Sons, Inc. New York, 1979.Optimization by Vector Space Methods, John Wiley and Sons, Inc., New York, 1969. 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Your probably saying .... "Duh!" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= DocOz Presents: How to get Your Fat to Eat Itself! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is a 1-Step Plan that will have you losing 1 lb per day. View Step 1: / http://www.kituspup.com/droz/episode/meltingfat.video - No Work-Out Necessary - No Starvation Needed -DocOz Episode Recap -to modify message setting - Alert System Notifications write-1107 V a l e r i a Drive|Marion|T e x a s | 78124 or http://www.kituspup.com/o04jt.dg4 Anyone reading this should also read Daniel's answer way below; it's not strictly true that this is distinct from any instance-level "i" variable. This tripped me up until I read his clarifications below. Dubslow Jul 27 '12 at 3:00 2 I'm just learning Python, but the advantages of @classmethod over @staticmethod AFAIK is that you always get the name of the class the method was invoked on, even if it's a subclass. A static method lacks this information, so it cannot call an overridden method, for example. Seb Oct 2 '12 at 15:58 @Blair Is this something I want to do. As an example, if you wanted to be able to access PI = 3.14 lots of times in a class (ignoring math libraries for argument sake), would your really do MyClass.PI in all those places? What is the Pythonic approach? Doesn't this look kind of cluttered and ugly? Or am I wrong? theJollySin Mar 16 '13 at 4:079 theJollySin the pythonic way for constants is to not grow a class for constants. Just have some const.py with PI = 3.14 and you can import it everywhere. from coTo avoid any potential confusion, I would like to contrast static variables and immutable objects.Some primitive object types like integers, floats, strings, and touples are immutable in Python. This means that the object that is referred to by a given name cannot change if it is of one of the aforementioned object types. The name can be reassigned to a different object, but the object itself may not be changed.Making a variable static takes this a step further by disallowing the variable name to point to any object but that to which it currently points. (Note: this is a general software concept and not specific to Python; please see others' posts for information about implementing statics in Python).Having helpful and interesting questions that are massively upvoted because of this fact being closed by executive decision by one person does SO a huge disservice. mtyson Jan 3 at 20:1Now the real answer is a whole lot more complex than that. For instance, there is no such thing as classes in JavaScript. JavaScript uses a prototype-based inheritance scheme.In addition, there are numerous popular JavaScript libraries that have their own style of approximating class-li ke functionality in JavaScript. You'll want to check out at least Prototype and jQuery.Deciding which of these is the "best" is a great way to start a holy war on Stack Overflow. If you're embarking on a larger JavaScript-heavy project, it's definitely worth learning a popular library and doing it their way. I'm a Prototype guy, but Stack Overflow seems to lean towards jQuery.As far as there being only "one way to do it", without any dependencies on external libraries, the way I wrote is pretty much it. How is this "not constructive"? How do you define a class in JavaScript? What would be the syntax and why would it be done in that way? is a very valid question. bobobobo Jan 22 at 23:43 Wait, upon looking at the answers (other than the accepted one), it seems this question did attract a lot of answers that try to skirt the question. Maybe leaving it closed is a good idea after all. bobobobo Jan 22 at 23:46JavaScript implements prototype-based OO. In prototype-based OO, new objects are created by copying other objects (instead of being instantiated from a class template) and methods live directly in objects instead of in classes. Inheritance is done via delegation: if an object doesn't have a method or property, it is looked up on its prototype(s) (i.e. the object it was cloned from), then the prototype's prototypes and so onIn other words: there are no classes. JavaScript actually has a nice tweak of that model: constructors. Not only can you create objects by copying existing ones, you can also construct them "out of thin air", so to speak. If you call a function with the new keyword, that function becomes a constructor and the this keyword will not point to the current object but instead to a newly created "empty" one. So, you can configure an object any way you like. In that way, JavaScript constructors can take on one of the roles of classes in traditional class-based OO: serving as a template or blueprint for new objects.Now, JavaScript is a very powerful language, so it is quite easy to implement a class-based OO system within JavaScript if you want to. However, you should only do this if you really have a need for it and not just because that's the way Java does it. Great question, this is a question every programmer should ask himself before writing anything bigger than one function in JavaScript. Answers provide practical overview of different techniques with pros and cons. This type of knowledge is hard to google but is essential for a good programmer to know thIf you don't need instance variables and are happy with only public or private variables then there are probably simpler systems." - how does an instance variable differ from public and private variables? Casebash Jan 10 '13 at 4:30 2 Instance variables are shared among individual instances of a class. In the example I.name is an instance variable. It is accessible from the child class as well as the parent. Private variable are variables defined in a closure, they cannot be shared among subclasses or mixins. Public variables are properties on the object itself. Any external code can modify them. The advantage of instance variables is that they can be shared among subclasses and mixins (unlike private variables) and you can control when and if they are exposed publicly (unlike public variables). Daniel X Moore Jan 10 '13 at 18:21 @DanielXMoore "Instance variables are shared among individual instances of a class" Those aren't instance variables, those are static/class variables. JAB Jul 2 '13 at 19:05 @JAB That is incorrect, static/class variables are shared among all instances of a class. Each instance has its own instance variables. 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I ended up using pancetta and parm with the veggies I mentioned. Now I have to work on sides.

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Coconut shrimp, jasmine rice, and a salad.

I ended up using pancetta and parm with the veggies I mentioned. Now I have to work on sides.

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Class was okay but it was more express yoga rather than power yoga just going through the poses at warp speed, nothing powerful about it but maybe I'm used to the styles of other yoga studios that have kicked mTaking into account that this sports club is next to the ritz, I was kind of expecting more amenities and offerings as I have been to both Washington Sports Club and Vida. The locker rooms and bathrooms could step it up. Furnishings are adequate but minimal at best. Also the bathroom was kind of nasty as in cheap soap and lotion, unidentifyable objects in the toilets...errr next stall please....this stall smells, err.... I'll just hold it.is c5a85a5aaca nothing special but decent. It is unauthentic chinese 9534002995034393a7 food, which works for some but not for others. Works for me because the d0c563e865 flavor profiles fall within my comfort 658195216 level. 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You are priceless after all (or at least pretty close to priceless). Life coverage helps provide you peace of mind and can provide your family with financial stability and security when it matters most. No exam necessary | $250k Coverage for $15/month| http://www.byscant.com/policy-25-6543738/mrt.html Thank You. This is from LIL Life Agency -1107 Valeria Dr-Marion-TX-78124- -To easily-end updates from our publications Write or you can navigate to this URL http://www.byscant.com/cv/ - / / / / / / / / / / I run into a bit of a problem with some code today, what it is supposed to do is detect mouse clicks and then update the frame. Now this starts off fine, however when I want it to do two functions upon one mouseclick, it only wants to update the frame if I resize the screen and return. I'm not sure what's causing it, this is my main method. (Toggle Plain Text) import javax.swing.JFrame; public class Main { //Technical stuff static JFrame frame = new JFrame(); public static boolean waitingInput = true; public static int whatInput = 0; static Menu menu = new Menu(); static CountryInput CI = new CountryInput(); //Player info public String pName = null; public String cName = null; public static void main(String[] args) throws InterruptedException{ Functions.nameGenerate(); frame.setVisible(true); frame.setSize(600, 400); frame.setDefaultCloseOperation(JFrame.EXIT_ON_CLOSE); frame.add(menu); menu.setVisible(true); check(); } //Used to handle when something is clicked public static void check() throws InterruptedException{ while(waitingInput == true){ //Before/After something is clicked Thread.sleep(10); frame.repaint(); } if(whatInput == 1){ //When menu is pressed frame.remove(menu); frame.add(CI); whatInput = 2; } else if(whatInput == 2){ frame.add(CI); } } } I normally don't answer questions in this forum, but looks to me like you have reversed lines 7 and 8 and lines 10 and 11. If the program returns on line 7 how can line 8 be executed?? same with lines 10 and 11. Line 7 does recursion -- calls function pa again. When it's called the second time it should ask you to enter the sentence all over again. I think you need to remove line 2 from that function and put it just before calling pa for the first time. I just spent more then 30 seconds in a debugger it crashed the compiler, and then it restarted it. I don't know how to debug for this reason that is all it ever does. The only thing it lets me do is run & compile code. If there is an Error or Warning I try to fix it. Even so I don't know what you are saying I should do to that for loop anyways. However I tried this with the code, but it gives me an extra line. Plus when I go to the second room I looks identical to the first when I should not. From AustinCastillo@computramite.psiivy.com Fri May 23 07:03:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62851A0546 for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 07:03:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.855 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.855 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, J_CHICKENPOX_29=0.6, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.886, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.922, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_DBL_SPAM=2.5] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4V-Kn-1pUUgg for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 07:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from computramite.psiivy.com (computramite.psiivy.com [207.188.133.73]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880DD1A04FA for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 07:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-to: Message-ID: <3-75-35853267.20140523053448.16071.39970.MessageSafe@db.computramite.psiivy.com> To: From: Term-Life Milestone Subject: $250k in coverage / No Exam necessary Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 07:03:09 -0700 X-Original-MessageID: <20140523053448.16071.39970-42b4600ccc583114c16b5316dc49f19d-ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org> Hello Ipp-archive, If you think about it for a minute, you insure everything that's significant in your life; why not insure yourself? You are priceless after all (or at least pretty close to priceless). Life coverage helps provide you peace of mind and can provide your family with financial stability and security when it matters most. No exam necessary | $250k Coverage for $15/month| http://www.psiivy.com/policy-25-6543738/mrt.html Thank You. This is from LIL Life Agency -1107 Valeria Dr-Marion-TX-78124- -To easily-end updates from our publications Write or you can navigate to this URL http://www.psiivy.com/cv/ - / / / / / / / / / / I run into a bit of a problem with some code today, what it is supposed to do is detect mouse clicks and then update the frame. Now this starts off fine, however when I want it to do two functions upon one mouseclick, it only wants to update the frame if I resize the screen and return. I'm not sure what's causing it, this is my main method. (Toggle Plain Text) import javax.swing.JFrame; public class Main { //Technical stuff static JFrame frame = new JFrame(); public static boolean waitingInput = true; public static int whatInput = 0; static Menu menu = new Menu(); static CountryInput CI = new CountryInput(); //Player info public String pName = null; public String cName = null; public static void main(String[] args) throws InterruptedException{ Functions.nameGenerate(); frame.setVisible(true); frame.setSize(600, 400); frame.setDefaultCloseOperation(JFrame.EXIT_ON_CLOSE); frame.add(menu); menu.setVisible(true); check(); } //Used to handle when something is clicked public static void check() throws InterruptedException{ while(waitingInput == true){ //Before/After something is clicked Thread.sleep(10); frame.repaint(); } if(whatInput == 1){ //When menu is pressed frame.remove(menu); frame.add(CI); whatInput = 2; } else if(whatInput == 2){ frame.add(CI); } } } I normally don't answer questions in this forum, but looks to me like you have reversed lines 7 and 8 and lines 10 and 11. If the program returns on line 7 how can line 8 be executed?? same with lines 10 and 11. Line 7 does recursion -- calls function pa again. When it's called the second time it should ask you to enter the sentence all over again. I think you need to remove line 2 from that function and put it just before calling pa for the first time. I just spent more then 30 seconds in a debugger it crashed the compiler, and then it restarted it. I don't know how to debug for this reason that is all it ever does. The only thing it lets me do is run & compile code. If there is an Error or Warning I try to fix it. Even so I don't know what you are saying I should do to that for loop anyways. However I tried this with the code, but it gives me an extra line. Plus when I go to the second room I looks identical to the first when I should not. From EmilyRoberts@grandcolonialnj.crownarkum.com Fri May 23 07:57:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A671A0549 for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 07:57:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i3WorE1CjzgY for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 07:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grandcolonialnj.crownarkum.com (grandcolonialnj.crownarkum.com [207.188.133.98]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512FF1A0515 for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 07:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: All makes/models must go To: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 07:57:38 -0700 From: Memorial Day Sign and Drive [Memorial Day - Extra Savings] If you think you can't afford a new-ride think again. If you don't mind driving a NEW 2013 you can ride for half-off: See remanning cars: http://www.crownarkum.com/index/car-driver/memorial-day-inv-li.html [Participating Brands: Ford -- Chevy -- BMW -- Jeep -- And More] We have less and less to chose from each day that goes by. Please see what is remanning now: http://www.crownarkum.com/index/car-driver/memorial-day-inv-li.html ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- - From-MMG Auto_Association. 3519-N O St. Fort Smith. AR. End-Ad-Mail http://www.crownarkum.com/7/window.hymn For: 43654358367564 - >From The Forum: Mar 30, 2014, 8:24 PM Post #4 of 12 (218 views) Shortcut Re: Engine problems on a 1989 gmc r3500 with a 454 tbi. [In reply to] Sign In There are two types of lean conditions on an engine; vacuum leaks (including stuck open EGR) and not enough fuel getting into the engine. Both of those things can be caused by numerous other things. The key is trying to figure out what the engine is doing when it is running lean. The best method to determine how the air fuel mixture is is by monitoring the O2 sensor voltage. I doubt you have an scan tool that can read engine data on that, so you might have to manually check the O2 sensor voltage using a volt meter. It is also possible the O2 sensor can stick lean which makes the engine computer add more fuel to the engine when it doesn't need it. It might make it stumble and run rich and set that lean code. It is important to make sure the O2 sensor is functioning properly before using it to diagnose a fueling problem. I think something failed with the timing belt job and you should have that checked asap. Brakes more difficult is probably a side effect of low vacuum assist power due to low intake manifold vacuum. When that's wrong the engine just doesn't know what to do. Hurry and have the belt/pump work checked out, >From inland Mass. so no stranger to rust issues usually first noticed as we know as ugly body metal rust showing but definitely causes real harm to structural metals as well and can quickly. Now I suggest if one side did this how carefully was the other side checked out? Guess this should be on your list of things to check or have checked to be ahead of such problems. Brands don't seem to matter all the time just some seem to fare better than others up to generating recalls as losing wheels and total control of a vehicle is wildly dangerous made worse as it can happen by total surprise! Do learn and enjoy learning from sites such as this. This particular site is free to use and a volunteer site from regulars likely to reply to you. All the suggestions and even pics are inadequate compared to plain looking at and inspecting something in person, extent of rust and how important will vary. If it moves you have to pay attention Tom From JulianLane@grandcolonialnj.crownarkum.com Fri May 23 07:59:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE95F1A05D3 for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 07:59:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.631 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.631 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.922, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TI6jCoEofdn4 for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 07:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grandcolonialnj.crownarkum.com (grandcolonialnj.crownarkum.com [207.188.133.98]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9770C1A0537 for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 07:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 07:59:38 -0700 Message-ID: <20140522235532.17482.36554.JavaMail.63425@crownarkum.com> From: Memorial Day Sign and Drive Subject: Ford's and Chevy's Half off To: [Memorial Day - Extra Savings] If you think you can't afford a new-ride think again. If you don't mind driving a NEW 2013 you can ride for half-off: See remanning cars: http://www.crownarkum.com/index/car-driver/memorial-day-inv-li.html [Participating Brands: Ford -- Chevy -- BMW -- Jeep -- And More] We have less and less to chose from each day that goes by. Please see what is remanning now: http://www.crownarkum.com/index/car-driver/memorial-day-inv-li.html ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- - From-MMG Auto_Association. 3519-N O St. Fort Smith. AR. End-Ad-Mail http://www.crownarkum.com/7/window.hymn For: 43654358367564 - >From The Forum: Mar 30, 2014, 8:24 PM Post #4 of 12 (218 views) Shortcut Re: Engine problems on a 1989 gmc r3500 with a 454 tbi. [In reply to] Sign In There are two types of lean conditions on an engine; vacuum leaks (including stuck open EGR) and not enough fuel getting into the engine. Both of those things can be caused by numerous other things. The key is trying to figure out what the engine is doing when it is running lean. The best method to determine how the air fuel mixture is is by monitoring the O2 sensor voltage. I doubt you have an scan tool that can read engine data on that, so you might have to manually check the O2 sensor voltage using a volt meter. It is also possible the O2 sensor can stick lean which makes the engine computer add more fuel to the engine when it doesn't need it. It might make it stumble and run rich and set that lean code. It is important to make sure the O2 sensor is functioning properly before using it to diagnose a fueling problem. I think something failed with the timing belt job and you should have that checked asap. Brakes more difficult is probably a side effect of low vacuum assist power due to low intake manifold vacuum. When that's wrong the engine just doesn't know what to do. Hurry and have the belt/pump work checked out, >From inland Mass. so no stranger to rust issues usually first noticed as we know as ugly body metal rust showing but definitely causes real harm to structural metals as well and can quickly. Now I suggest if one side did this how carefully was the other side checked out? Guess this should be on your list of things to check or have checked to be ahead of such problems. Brands don't seem to matter all the time just some seem to fare better than others up to generating recalls as losing wheels and total control of a vehicle is wildly dangerous made worse as it can happen by total surprise! Do learn and enjoy learning from sites such as this. This particular site is free to use and a volunteer site from regulars likely to reply to you. All the suggestions and even pics are inadequate compared to plain looking at and inspecting something in person, extent of rust and how important will vary. 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<3296D306-D12C-423D-A4D7-67B39755B446@apple.com> From: Ira McDonald Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 11:21:44 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)" , Ira McDonald Cc: "" Subject: Re: [IPP] Potential errata/update for PWG Raster Format and/or IPP Everywhere specs X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Printing Protocol Workgroup discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1019709729==" Sender: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org --===============1019709729== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51ddc1db734be04fa12caa2 --bcaec51ddc1db734be04fa12caa2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Smith, Actually, the Printer doesn't have to bind values to "xxx-actual" until the Job completes. This reply is not about 'guaranteed'. This reply is about the usability of 'attempted'. An IPP Client could use Validate-Job with "document-format" and "pdl-override" and, when it receives the response that says ignored or substituted, examine the values of "preferred-attributes" (from JPS3, PWG 5100.13-2012) to find out the extent to which the Printer *could* and *could not* successfully 'attempt' to do the overrides. The IPP Client wants to know if the particular PDL interpreter is instrumented to support overrides, not that any particular (unsent) document data actually contains, for example, "number-up" (which the client can't know if it didn't generate the document data). Mike - I think this is a useful idea - WDYT? Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music / High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) < smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote: > > On 2014-05-21, at 2:23 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > On May 21, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Ira McDonald wrote= : > > ... > Although one could do tricks with Client submitting a Job on hold and > Printer sending "successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes" (so > that the client could tell that the override was partial and WHERE it > wasn't performed). > > > ... and in cases where job hold/release is not supported, the xxx-actual > attributes can be used to track things as well - I think Smith already sa= ys > something about this in the 'guide. Of course, that presumes that the IP= P > Printer has access to the values used by the PDL for a given job - probab= ly > more likely than being able to do PDL override from my experience, but > still not 'guaranteed' (there's that word again...) > > > And as we have discussed, since the Printer doesn=E2=80=99t bind values t= o > xxx-actual until processing time or perhaps slightly earlier in some case= s, > this is basically =E2=80=9Cafter the fact=E2=80=9D. This may tell the Cl= ient whether > something was used or not, but doesn=E2=80=99t allow the Client to try to= do > something about it or have a sense before processing of what will happen = at > processing time. > > Smith > > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > > --bcaec51ddc1db734be04fa12caa2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Smith,

= Actually, the Printer doesn't have to bind values to "xxx-actual&q= uot; until the Job
completes.

This reply is not about '= guaranteed'.

This reply is about the usability of 'attempted'.

= An IPP Client could use Validate-Job with "document-format" and &= quot;pdl-override" and,
when it receives the response that says ign= ored or substituted, examine the values
of "preferred-attributes" (from JPS3, PWG 5100.13-2012) to find o= ut the extent to
which the Printer *could* and *could not* successfully= 'attempt' to do the overrides.

The IPP Cli= ent wants to know if the particular PDL interpreter is instrumented to
support overrides, not that any particular (unsent) document data actually = contains,
for example, "number-up" (which the client can'= t know if it didn't generate the
document data).

Mike - I think this is a useful idea - WDYT?

Cheers,
<= /div>

- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / = Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Op= en Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair -= IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IP= P & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://si= tes.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http:/= /sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: bluero= ofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=C2=A0 579 Park Place=C2=A0 Saline, MI=C2=A0= 48176=C2=A0 734-944-0094
Summer=C2=A0 PO Box 221=C2=A0 Grand Marais, MI= 49839=C2=A0 906-494-2434

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Kennedy= , Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy@hp.com> wrote= :

On 2014-05-21, at 2:23 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> wro= te:

On May 21, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:=
...
Althou= gh one could do tricks with Client submitting a Job on hold and=C2=A0=
Printer sending "successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes"= (so=C2=A0
that the client could tell that the override was= partial and WHERE it=C2=A0
wasn't performed).

... and in cases where job hold/release is not supported, the xxx-actual at= tributes can be used to track things as well - I think Smith already says s= omething about this in the 'guide. =C2=A0Of course, that presumes that = the IPP Printer has access to the values used by the PDL for a given job - = probably more likely than being able to do PDL override from my experience,= but still not 'guaranteed' (there's that word again...)

And as we have discussed, since the P= rinter doesn=E2=80=99t bind values to xxx-actual until processing time or p= erhaps slightly earlier in some cases, this is basically =E2=80=9Cafter the= fact=E2=80=9D. =C2=A0This may tell the Client whether something was used o= r not, but doesn=E2=80=99t allow the Client to try to do something about it= or have a sense before processing of what will happen at processing time.<= /div>

Smith

_______________________________________________<= br> ipp mailing list
ipp@pwg.org
http= s://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp

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It might seem nice togenerate automatic xml comments but "set or get a value indicating wether this instance is dirty" Is this really useful on a property named "IsDirty" ? It's adding useless lines in your code in my opinion. If you have to make an Xml comment that is useful, then this won't help you because you'll have to write it yourself anyway. Stephane May 3 '10 at 16:25@Stephane: The comments aren't meant to be used as-is. They're designed to be a template for a human being to flesh out. As such I find it very useful. TrueWill May 3 '10 at 17:01@Stephane TrueWill is right this is a template for gene nice doc umentations, besides if you look at NET framework comments, you can see that all of them have a certain language template, I do that in my own component via gostDoc. This is very important when deploying a public API, the documentation has to be consistent, lexically. BartoszAdamczewski May 3 '10 at 20:12Ok, you probably make a good point when it comes to a public API that needs a consistent wording. I still dont believe in a documentation that just describe each function one by one. any developer will ask for examples : "show me the code". Unit tests fits much better. Maybe an add-in that would generate documentation including the corresponding unit-test for each API call would be more useful :). Stephane May 4 '10 at 8:20Have a look at nload.php as an alternative to Ghostdoc. Paid but it's only 10 CAD bloke Sep 4 '10 at 4:44As a "template for a human being to flesh out", the tool makes no sense. All you have to do is type /// (or ''' in VB) to get a template to flesh out. Th e only thing GhostDoc adds is text that it makes up from the name of the member...text which is therefore useless to any human being with half a brain. Kyralessa Sep 25 '10 at 4:18GhostDoc is excellent. 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Don't waste your time creating undocumentation to waste my time. Only difference in the generated code is fld qword ptr 0E8h)] for fast version and fldz at the start of the loop by the way, at least for my build in VS2010 Dervall Feb 16 '12 at 16:27 @Dervall That's correct. There's almost no difference in code. It's the value that affects whether or not the numbers go denormal. Mysticial Feb 16 '12 at 16:304 t's particularly interesting, because the sequence which changes things is fundamentally x += 0.1; x -= 0.1, which can also be written (x + 0.1) - 0.1. One notes the lack of associativity. (Of course, rewriting like this could change the results, due to the fact that C++ allows keeping intermediate results in extended precision.) James Kanze Feb 16 '12 at 17:5847 I'm still finding it a little weird that the "+ 0" isn't completely optimized out by the compiler by default. Would this have happened if he had put "+ 0.0f"? s73v3r Feb 16 '12 at 19:10@s73v3r That's a very good question. Now that I look at the assembly, not even + 0.0f gets optimized out. If I had to guess, it could be that + 0.0f would have side-effects if y[i] happened to be a signalling NaN or something... I could be wrong though. Mysticial Feb 16 ' 12 at 19:31This is a common issue in audio signal processing. Signal followed by silence fed into recursive filters (common in "virtual analog" synthesizers, EQs, etc) yields exponentially decaying values within the filter's memory, and when they decay into the denormal realm, performance falls off a cliff. Different CPU architectures handle denormals differently, with Intel's Pentium 4 notorious for being about 250 times slower on denorms, while AMD takes more like a 10:1 hit. Russell Borogove Feb 16 '12 at 19:35How is the performance if one takes the addition/substraction out? I wouldn't be surprised if it is still expensive, because the multiplication/division is more expensive for subnorms. CodesInChaos Feb 16 '12 at 20:05@CodeInChaos Yes, it's still expensive, but only 13.3208 seconds as opposed to 26.7669. The numbers still go denormal. But I guess since there's only half as many operations, it's twice as fast. It's somewhat surprising to me that a denormal division seems to run only just as slow as a denormal addition/subtraction. Mysticial Feb 16 '12 at 20:21 So..... what should the performance-conscious programmer do when there are zero-valued floats involved? Chriszuma Feb 16 '12 at 21:19@Chriszuma, it's not the zero values here that are the problem, it's the near-zero denormals. If you don't need to do arithmetic on super tiny numbers, then flush denormals to zero. If you do need to handle numbers that small, then it's probably faster to use doubles on most platforms. user57368 Feb 16 '12 at 21:44 Doubles will still run into the same problem in many cases, just at a different numerical magnitude. Flush-to-zero is fine for audio applications (and others where you can afford to lose 1e-38 here and there), but I believe doesn't apply to x87. Without FTZ, the usual fix for audio applications is to inject a very low amplitude (not audible) DC or or square wave signal to jitter numbers away from denormality. Russell Borogove Feb 17 '12 at 0:12@RussellBorogove: I wonder if any hardware designs include a mode to force LSB truncation of values near zero, so as to avoid a requirement to handle denormalized values weirdly? supercat Feb 17 '12 at 4:13 Around 1998/1999 I used to play with plugins for Jeskola Buzz. I upgraded from Pentium 166MMX to Pentium 3 500MHz for that. Part of the lore then was that as values decayed very close to zero, "underflow exceptions" would cause severe slowdown - even with thedisabled, it would still cause a big slowdown. The fix was to force near-zero values to zero. Was this lore wrong? Was this actually a denormalized floats issue? Steve314 Feb 17 '12 at 7:39Putting aside the performance, why y[i] = (y[i] + 0.1f) - 0.1f even leads to a different value than y[i] = (y[i] + 0) - 0 ? Isaac Feb 17 '12 at 11:09 @Isaac because when y[i] is significantly smaller than 0.1 adding it results in a loss of precision because the most significant digit in the number becomes higher. Dan Neely Feb 17 '12 at 13:282 his brings a curiosity question: do you have examples of hardware vendors doing efficient denormal computation? nraynaud Feb 17 '12 at 14:10@supercat, if I understand you rightly, that's essenti ally what flush-to-zero is. Russell Borogove Feb 17 '12 at 18:27Steve314, the lore is, let's say, imprecise. IEEE754 defines an "underflow exception" for denormalized numbers; if the hardware isn't able to handle denorms accurately, it's supposed to raise an exception instead, but x87 does handle the denormals, slowly, without raising exception. Russell Borogove Feb 17 '12 at 18:28 @nraynaud, Intel's new Sandy Bridge microarchitecture handles denormals remarkably efficiently -- according to Agner Fog, at ful Russell Borogove Feb 17 '12 at 18:29@RussellBorogove: In a flush-to-zero system, as I understand the term, the difference between the smallest and second-smallest positive numbers is a tiny fraction of the magnitude of the smallest number. Adding denormals to the system reduces the magnitude of the smallest number to match the smallest measurable dfference between numbers. What I'd suggest would be increasing the minimum difference between numbers to match the smallest normalized number. This would ensure that if x=y the difference between x+(y-x) and y would be of smaller magnitude than the difference between x and y. supercat Feb 17 '12 at 19:27@RussellBorogove: Whereas handling of denormals requires adding complexity to all aspects of handling floats, limiting the precision of lower bits (should actually be done via rounding rather than truncation) wo uld only require extra logic in one place. Instead of always rounding to one mantissa-LSB, one would sometimes round off to a coarser level. supercat Feb 17 '12 at 19:34Does this have any relevance for Obj-C. I'd guess the answer would be, "probably, benchmark it yourself?" Or could this not apply in Objective-C for some reason...? Yar Feb 18 '12 at 7:18 @Yar: it is more of a CPU than a language issue, so it probably has relevance for Obj-C on x86. (iPhone's armv7 doesn't seem to support denormalized floats, at least with the default runtime/build settings) mvds Feb 18 '12 at 11:56@RussellBorogove I've got a Sandy bridge CPU here (i7-2620M), and I can't observe that efficiency - I see a 22x slowdown with gcc 4.6.1 and g++ -O3 -march=corei7-avx 93145Similar results with all compiler options I've tried. je4d Feb 23 '12 at 21:30 @je4d I noticed it on my 2600K as well. And it does go contrary to what Agner Fog says. I initially suspected that the perhaps the division was still sensitive to denormals. But removing the division (and multiplying by reciprocals of z[i] instead) yields a slowdown of 96x to denormals Mysticial Feb 23 '12 at 21:47 @Mysticial all my google search results for snb and denormalized FP lead back to that one Agner Fog article. I've also been trying various compiler options (e.g. -mfpmath=..., -mfast-math) since my last comment and I can't find any where 1) -DFLOATING doesn't make it faster and 2) the results without -DFLOATING are correct. So AFAICS, the claim is just bogus. je4d Feb 23 '12 at 22:03Interesting. Are you seeing this on x87, SSE, or both? Russell Borogove Feb 23 '12 at 22:28 @RussellBorogove I tested x87 in 32-bit mode and SSE in 64-bit mode. Same results. Huge slowdowns to denormals both with and without the division. ~25x with the division and ~100x without the division. Mysticial Feb 23 '12 at 22:34No clue what's up then. You might contact Fog if you want to sort it out. Russell Borogove Feb 23 '12 at 22:39@RussellBorogove I'm doing 64bit only, and I see a slowdown for both 387 (50x) and sse (14.5x) with doubles - similar numbers for floats. je4d Feb 23 '12 at 23:10Mar 12 '12 at 13:217 Downvoters care to comment? 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I'll have to try the re-install cert then run the sn -i command. We need it to work on all developer machines in the office. JasonD Aug 16 '10 at 3:48 Brandon's workaround worked for me and allowed me to properly publish our ClickOnce application. I did not need to have the PFX file checked out in TFS to for this to work either. Thanks! yourbuddypal Feb 8 '11 at 20:5 This worked for me as well, however I never had to do this in the past. VS used to just pop up and ask for the password for each key. What has changed? Kevin Berridge Sep 16 '11 at 19:51 If you get prompted for the password and don't know it - just try clicking Enter. The PFX may not have a password, but sn.exe will always prompt for one. SliverNinja Jul 29 '13 at 20:Check Stefan De Bruijn commYeah, we tried that one with Microsoft support as well, and that's the way to do the code signing import. The problem really seems to be that the certificate password gets lost during the checkin process source safe. But this doesn't look to be the real problem. It looks if you enter the certificate details on Widnows 7 machine #1, and then move that exact same file to a different machine and register it, the registration will work, but the build will fail. Microsoft are still looking into it for us. For now we had to disable code signing and sign manually during The code used to generate the Thumbnails should be checking for the following:Is there a cached version of the thumbnail. Is the cached version newer than the original image. If either of these are false the thumbnail should be generated and returned no matter what. If they are both true then the following check should be made:Is there a header Is the cached version's last modified time the same as the If either of these are false the cached thumbnail should be returned. Thanks MidnightLightning! There is a cache folder where thumbnail JPGs are created and reused from, though I have the feeling within here lies the problem of the script that I have bought ( and seems to work fine for others ) Sam Feb 7 '11 at 21:11 Thanks for your detective & spot on clues Capsule! First things first: theres no database. Your findings are same as mine: its waiting 90% of the time for? Crazy little thumbs. Interesting thoughts on the last-modified headers, because according to James post here, I had to set those Last-modified headers to a STATIC (fixed) time, not dynamic/always changing time set by php gmdate generators. Or perhaps you mean something else here? (Nominated for bounty) Sam Feb 23 '11 at 23:28To be perfect, it should reflect the real generation date, for example by getting the filemtime() of the cached thumbnail. What would be interesting to test is access an empty PHP file, or a PHP file just echoing "test" and see how much waiting you've got on thi s one. 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Of course the 36ms I measured on your ser If the thumbnails are cached, make sure the script that's pulling them from cache is using readfile() rather than file_get_contents() followed by an ec ho, which waits to output anything until the whole file is moved into memory of the PHP script. MidnightLightning Feb 7 '11 at 21:20Better yet- if the files are cached, generate the HTML in a way that directly pulls in the cached image from disk without going through PHP. That's what I do in my scripts for videodb.net andig Mar 4 '11 at 11:0"There is a cache folder where..." and how quickly are they dereferenced? Does your URL point directly to cached file or a PHP script? Do you redirect or use readfile()? Does the same PHP script contain the thumbnail generation code - or do you defer loading the bulk of the code using include/erquire? symcbean Mar 10 '11 at If both of these are true then a 304 http status should be returned. I'm not sure if its required but I also personally return the Cache-Control, Expires and Last-Modified headers along with the 304.hanks Goran, however this is not the elegant solution that I wish for: I think there is something fishy in my case, and that normally it really doesnt take as long for a php script to know wether to pass a 304 header or to bake the image etc. thanks anyway for your suggestion as it directs the problem from an entirely new perspective! W In regards to GZipping, I've been informed that there is no need to GZip images so ignore that part of my comment. 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It is safe to raise SyntaxError or ValuError (which the calling code can catch and handle appropriately if necessary), rather than going ahead and evaling "import os; do_evil_stuff.." or whatever other string was passed in... wim 2 days ago But that doesn't make it any "safer" than using int("31") or float("545.2222"). The only advantage that I can see is that you don't have to know beforehand what type of mathematical expression you've got (which can be useful under certain circumstances, but is not what the OP was asking)1e3 is a number in python, but a string according to your code. Cees Timmerman Oct 4 '12 at 13:24 It's good to have a decent, peer-reviewed roll-your-own version next to a good recommendation for a standard library. Sometimes I don't want to pull in another library for that one place where I need to parse urlencoded strings, and sometimes I might even have that library already in my dependency list. That both alternatives are listed as top answers is once again a great testimony to the SO community. Hanno Fietz May 19 '11 at 10:38 1 @Hanno Fietz you mean you trust these alternatives? I know they are buggy. I know pointing out the bugs I see will only encourage people to adopt 'fixed' versions, rather than themselves look for the bugs I've overlooked. Will May 19 '11 at 10:57 1 @Will - well, I would never just trust copy-and-paste snippets I got from any website, and no one should. But here, these snippets are rather well reviewed and commented on and thus are really helpful, actually. Simply seeing some suggestions on what might be wrong with the code is already a great help in thinking for myself. And mind you, I didn't mean to say "roll your own is better", but rather that it's great to have good material for an informed decision in my own code. Hanno Fietz May 23 '11 at 10:55 nyway, assuming you are using UTF-8 or some other multi-byte character encoding, now that you've decoded one encoded byte you have to set it aside until you capture the next byte. You need all the encoded bytes that are together because you can't url-decode properly one byte at a time. Set aside all the bytes that are together then decode them all at once to reconstruct your characterPlus it gets more fun if you want to be lenient and account for user-agents that mangle urls. For example, some webmail clients double-encode things. Or double up the ?&= chars (for example: . If you want to try to gracefully deal with this, you will need to add more logic to your I imagine parse returns a list so that it maintain positional ordering and more easily allows duplicate entries Aside from that, it's almost 5 times as fast as a nested try, except! Using lambda instead of def also saves 5% execution time. Tested with 32-bit Python 3.2 on 64-bit Windows 7. Cees Timmerman Oct 4 '12 at 13:55 Good point, Cees. Thanks. I appreciate benchmarking too :) How about a modified version of parseStr using regular expressions? It will probably hurt performance but someone might find it useful. The new parseStr function: parseStr = lambda x: x.isalpha() and x or x.isdigit() and int(x) or re.match('(?i)^-?(\d+\.?e\d+|\d+\.\d*|\.\d+)$',x) and float(x) or x krzym Oct 9 '12 at 11:20 Using re is almost twice as slow as the try, except method, even with the 3% faster version that uses only match. Tested using time.time() and range(1000000) on a quadcore Intel Xeon 2.93 GHz. Cees Timmerman Oct 9 '12 at 12:17I ran a few tests using: parseStrRE = lambda x: x.isalpha() and x or x.isdigit() and int(x) or re.match('(?i)^-?(\d+\.?e\d+|\d+\.\d*|\.\d+)$', x) and float(x) or x and the try/except method modified to return strings if both int and float raise ValueError for the following test cases: ['1e3', '1.e3', '123', '-1234.12', 'e', 'ee', '1e', 'e2', '3hc1']. The execution time is as 2.7 (try/except) : 1.25 (parseStrRE) : 0.85 (original parseStr). Short-circuit expressions I employed speed things up since the result might actually be returned by evaluating only a part of the expression From MarcusHoward@hihimail.erasheep.com Fri May 23 11:40:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7201A07A0 for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 11:40:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.886, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.922, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, SUBJ_DOLLARS=1.8] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aZ0tXNDcGHvJ for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 11:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hihimail.erasheep.com (hihimail.erasheep.com [91.247.76.133]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0D91A079C for ; Fri, 23 May 2014 11:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Macy's Benefits $25 Subject: $25 (Issued 5/23) Message-ID: <3-75-35853267.20140523171456.31607.38223.MessageSafe@db.hihimail.erasheep.com> X-Original-MessageID: <20140523171456.31607.38223-be3c887439d7c422c979ab05d2d08ac7-ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 11:40:47 -0700 To: Reply-to: ATTN: Ipp-archive Macy's Rewards Exclusive for May 2014 ------------------------- Greetings Ipp-archive, In honor of Memorial Day and our Veterans we are giving you $25. To Enjoy Your Macy's Rewards, all you need to do: 1) Visit: http://www.erasheep.com/redeem/macy's/giftCard.index 2) Give us your opinion 3) Redeem your Shopper Bucks before they expire on May 23, 2014 Happy Memorial Day, Member Rewards Program / Alert System Notifications Message settings / to-modify-write-1107 V a l e r i a D r i v e-Marion, TX 78124 http://www.erasheep.com/kgjo4/gmo4l.snbgo4 Could someone explain what this will and won't match against? (Given some of the additional answers below.) It would be nice to know a bit more information in order to determine which 'solution' to use for a project. Jon Jul 7 '10 at 17:18 +1: Only thing this won't let through are IPs instead of domains. It does accept domains starting or ending with a dash, and domains in excess of 64 chars in length, but other than this does a good enough job. Cheers. Umber Ferrule Jul 19 '10 at 9:48 199This regex eliminates valid, in-use emails. Do not use. Google for "RFC822" or "RFC2822" to get a proper regex. Randal Schwartz Sep 8 '10 at 2:34 2@Randall: Can you give an example of an email address that this won't let through? rossipedia Sep 14 '10 at 18:08This works well for me, though I do get a complier error (unescaped '[') when using it with Appcelerator. Doesn't seem to cause a problem with the validation at all, however. evanmcd Feb 12 '11 at 19:01 Note that any IDNs will have to be punycoded before this regex accepts them; any valid top-level IDNs will be rejected even in punycode form (as the xn- prefix won't match [a-zA-Z]). Piskvor Jun 6 '11 at 1:20 19 -1 you will never match all valid email addresses with a regular expression Brad Mace Jul 9 '11 at 4:32 78 "...JavaScript can easily be disabled. This should be validated on the server side as well." It is possible that this IS for server-side validation a la Node.js =) mkoistinen Jul 19 '11 at 21:20 2Why on var re = ... line JSLint says: Unescaped ']', unescaped '[', spaces are hard to count, use {2}? manakor Sep 30 '11 at 8:45 Added a live demo. ripper234 Jan 12 '12 at 12:27There's a full test case of email addresses astor more details). Chris J Apr 4 '12 at 7:56 Someone post some legitimate email addresses that this won't validate, or some illegitimate ones that it will, and I'll consider stopping using it. Until then, good work. Ben Roberts Jun 9 '12 at 13:51 1 There is a section oalidation on the bottom of this page: Dan Osipov Jun 14 '12 at 18:26Nice, but there are simpler and more effective solutions below. user83358 Jul 30 '12 at 18:24 what does eans? where the test function from? please advice? Ben Sep 21 '12 at 22:10this fails on lint Kirk Strobeck Oct 12 '12 at 16:10This doesn't even accept the examplome simple cases it doesn't match a\@b@c.com, a(b)@c.com. See the RFC for more. Here's a regex that won't reject any valid addresses protects against common errors. Vroo Oct 26 '12 at 6:32 This works good enough for me. I'll settle for 99.999% accuracy. Henley Chiu Nov 1 '12 at 1:582 JSLint doesn't like this very much RyanM Nov 19 '12 at 22:42 @ sectrean, i just tried your javascript code. Its showins valid email id. How come that email id is valid? Akshinth 2- valid email address, in use, it fails Good Person Dec 21 '12 at 22:22 @GoodPerson I just tried to email n@ai to tell him/her they have a cool email address. But alas, gmail wouldn't let me. I suspect whoever that is has bigger problems communicating with others via email than just my site's javascript validation! But thanks for rising to the challenge. Ben Roberts Jan 13 '13 at 7:38 I am wondering why when I entered lname_fname#@yahoo.com it accepted the email? Meaning '#' is allowed? Jobert Enamno Jan 14 '13 at 9:43 In my opinion it's a good thing to reject ridiculous email addresses with escaped `@' signs and such. If some Mr L@me wants to use my sites, he will have to get a sensible email address first. Sam Watkins Mar 8 '13 at 2:08 What is the license you put on this regex. (I don't feel good to copy and paste it to my code without permission) bluesm Mar 16 '13 at 7:08 It's worth noting that the regexp in this answer should be written in one line, altough it is copied with multiple lines. ribot Mar 30 '13 at 14:00This is a solution that seems good with most native English speakers, but it fails the Turkey test (see Joel Spolsky). Most unicode letters are allowed, and for instance in Argentina, addresses such as "o1234@server.com" is perfectly normal. joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html oligofren Apr 16 '13 at 15:20 underscore(_) should be validated at first place I guess. Balwant Kumar Singh Apr 29 '13 at 10:52 @bluesm - "All contributions are licensed under Creative Commons..." Merlyn Morgan-Graham Jun 1 '13 at 21:26 will fail for this kind of form pradeek Jun 5 '13 at 2:02 I'm not sure why this has so many up votes, but using regular expressions doesn't work for validating email addresses. Boundless Jun 26 '13 at 14:59Examples of valid e-mail addresses that are marked as invalid are postbox@com and user@[IPv6:2001:db8:1ff::a0b:dbyou doubt me SyntaxError: Invalid regular expression: missing / Yann Chabot Jul 17 '13 at 14:29full test regex : Alban Jul 23 '13 at 15:05 This is the only regex that worked for me :] Gillian Lo Wong Aug 29 '13 at 13:13 @Ben it's the generic built in method in a regular expression. Alex Oct 21 '13 at 12:24 This passes for @a.aa (that first char is a weird one), which recently messed u 12 For all the people commenting that this is "good enough": look, you're simply thinking about this problem wrong. That's OK. It's a choice you can make for your users. I ain't mad at it. But, you know, technically speaking, you're demonstratively, provably wrong. lwburk Nov 22 '13 at 16:32... and validated by a Database procedure as well. Rolf Jan 8 at 14:04its broke for hhhkkk :( Nikhil M Jan 29 at 4:26You cannot validate email addresses, period!! The only one who can validate an email address is the provider of the email address. So why would you try? For example, this answer says these email addresses: %2@gmail.com, "%2"@gmail.com, "a..b"@gmail.com, "a_b"@gmail.com, _@gmail.com, 1@gmail.com , 1_example@something.gmail.com are all valid, but Gmail will never allow any of these email addresses. You should do this by accepting the email address and sending an email message to that email address, with a code/link the user must visit to confirm validity. Kevin Fegan Feb 1 at 8:49For more info about what it (in)correctly matches see the following list st-pattern/MTA4 PeeHaa Feb 5 at 12:37 @BenRobertoesn't exist. And yet the regex will let it through. josaphatv Mar 13 at 13:38@josphatv I assume you're joking. But based on your legitimate interpretation of my comment, I guess I need to stop using this regex! 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To: Hey Ipp-archive, Did you hear about he eBay Hack Attack? Its the Second Largest in US History. Hackers gained access to its entire database of 145 Mil user records and leaves many questions unanswered. My name was used falsely in an arrest, and I didnt even Know it until I checked my public record. You can check your history as well as the history of your neighbors to see if they have committed similar crimes. Enter Name Here -> / http://www.orbib.com/identity/arrest/record.index Regards, Alert Systems Notifications Alter message settings w/ Alert System Notifications at ( 1107 Valeria Dr-Marion, TX 78124) or http://www.orbib.com/kgje/skfg.4ighj @PaoloBergantino i mean that , why would i try to send a mail to check an obviously wrong mail address? even if i need to "be absolutely, positively sure that what the user entered is in fact an email" , i would only check the email addresses that match the regex kommradHomer Jul 19 '12 at 14:32 9 @PaoloBergantino I just do not except that regex is a bad idea and just a guess. A regex-invalid address is %100 an invalid address. kommradHomer Jul 19 '12 at 14:48 14 @kommradHomer -- a "regex invalid" address is almost always valid, because whatever regex you use to validate an email address is almost certainly wrong and will exclude valid email addresses. An email address is name_part@domain_part and practically anything, including an @, is valid in the name_part; The address is legal, although it must be escaped as foo\ine..... Once the email reaches the domain e.g. 'example.com' that domain can route the mail "locally" so "strange" usernames and hostnames can exist. Stephen P Mar 7 '13 at 1:40 The second regex in voyager's answer in97 is practical for use and should have almost no false negatives. I agree with @kommradHomer here -- why send an email if you don't have to? I can understand reflexive dislike for incomprehensible regexes and desire to keep code simple, but this is a couple lines of code that can save your server a lot of trouble by immediately weeding out items that are definitely invalid. A regex on its own is unhelpful, but serves as a good complement to serverside validation. Ben Apr 10 '13 at 21:30 @StephenP is right. It's virtually impossible to find a regex that will match all valid emails. Plus email address formats can change. Eduard Luca Oct 17 '13 at 8:05 @kommradHomer - "why would i want to spend my time validating an..." Huh? Spend your time? Of course not, silly! You'd write code to do that for you. And then you'd actually know if you had a valid address without risk of alienating users. That's pretty cool! Or you can pout and defiantly use a broken solution. I ain't mad at it. @StephenP "a 'regex invalid' address is almost always valid, because whatever regex you use to validate an email address is almost certainly wrong and will exclude valid email addresses" I find this argument to be logically flawed. People enter all kinds of invalid stuff in forms. dmur Feb 7 at 21:53 @dmur I concede "almost always valid" is probably overstating it, but I've had my (perfectly valid and working) email addresses rejected by websites far too often, just because I have a .us domain or because I used a + to the left of the @ -- many places have fixed these egregious errors, but the local-part (left of @) can be anything the domain owner wants. -"@example.com <-- is a valid email addressa-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+(?:\.[a-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+)*|"(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\ x0e-\x1f\x21\x23-\x5b\x5d-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])*")@(?:( ?:[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?\.)+[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?|\[ (?:(?:25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.){3}(?:25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?|[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9]:(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x21-\x5a\x53-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])You can implement something 20x as long that might cause problems for a few users and might not be valid in the future, or you can grab ImmortalFirefly's version to make sure they at least put in the effort to make it look real. Depending on your application it may be more likely to come across someone will get mad because you don't accept their unconventional email, rather than someone who causes problems by entering email addresses that don't really exist (which they can do anyways by entering a 100% validmail address but using an unregistered username or domain). Upvoted! user83358 Jul 30 '12 at 18:20 This allows the entry of so many invalid email addresses it is useless advice. cazlab Jan 6 '12 at 23:07 It doesn't have to be impossible to debug at all. There are many fine examples in this thread that validate further than "does it have an '@' in it. Your example allows "u@" to be considered a valid email address. At least evaluate for whether there is a domain or something that might be a domain. Yours is an example of what I'd call "aggressively lazy coding." I'm not sure why you are defending it as it is by far the lowest rated answer in the thread. cazlab Jan 26 '12 at 9:08 @cazlab maybe you are right. After all I have been voted down. Differently from you I don't think though any of the code above shows easy to debug snippets. My 'agressively lazy' approach at least can be improved if required. Zo72 Jan 26 '12 at 11:37 How is this any different from using regex? (.+)@(.*) does the same thing, and shorter. snostorm Apr 7 '12 at 21:03 +1 - If the objective is to make sure that the user has at least attempted to put in an e-mail address, then checking to see if it can be determined that the e-mail address is definitely NOT an e-mail is a great solution. A good example would be if you want a person's username to be an e-mail address. If the user types in 'sexy_chick_23', then this regex can be used to give them a heads up that an e-mail is expected. If something is typed in that looks like an e-mail, but is not, then the user will never get the 'confirmation' e-mail and the sign up process will never be validated @ImmortalFirefly, the regex you provided will actually match name@again@example.com. Try pasting your line into a JavaScript console. I believe your intention was to match only the entire text, which would require the beginning of text '^' and end of text '$' operators. 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Sebastian Nov 17 '12 at 13:51thanks for the answer! i noticed a possible "quirk" with developing py2exe apps in pydev+eclipse. i was able to tell that the main script was not detached because eclipse's output window was not terminating; even if the script executes to completion it is still waiting for returns. but, when i tried compiling to a py2exe executable, the expected behavior occurs (runs the processes as detached, then quits). i am not sure, but the executable name is not in the process list anymore. this works for all approaches (os.system("start *"), os.spawnl with os.P_DE TACH, subprocs, etc.) maranas Apr 9 '10 at 8:09@alexey-lebedev, I had no choice =) You are welcome! newtover Apr 13 '12 at 19:57 Windows gotcha: even though I spawned process with DETACHED_PROCESS, when I killed my Python daemon all ports opened by it wouldn't free until all spawned processes terminate. WScript.Shell solved all my problethe buffering issue only matters if you want output in real time and doesn't apply to your code that doesn't print anything until all data is received J.F. Sebastian Nov 17 '12 at 13:53 @J.F.Sebastian tried your method, however every time a command is entered teh result of the previous command is printed out. Paul Apr 10 '13 at 15:13@Paul: If your code produces unexpected results then you could create a complete minimal code example that reproduces the problem and post it as a new question. Mention what do you expect to happen and what happens instead. arr2=($IN) creates a real array. So you should iterate over it with for i in "${arr2[@]}"; do ... ; done instead, when using the arr2=($IN) syntax :) That's why you only got the first string with the other method (like for i in $arr2; do ...; done). Note that you can print out items of an array too. Say you want to print the second item (mail addy), you would do echo "${arr2[1]}" . index "@" stands for "expand each item in the array to a separate word". Johannes Schaub - litb May 28 '09 at 3:22 So "${arr2[@]}" with arr2 containing mails a@b.com and c@d.com, expands to "a@b.com" "c@d.com" :) Note that you can then also restore IFS already before the for-loop starts (when using this array method). now, since "for x in $arr2" only works because IFS is still ";" (the string is seen by "for" as separate words, since IFS split them at that time), currently you have to have IFS set to ";" throughout the whole loop, which may cause subtle problems when you don't think of it :) I found bash has some evil pitfalls. Maybe we should start making up a "bash pitfalls" question on SO? :) Johannes Schaub - litb May 28 '09 at 3:26 This is probably the best way. How long will IFS persist in it's current value, can it mess up my code by being set when it shouldn't be, and how can I reset it when now after the fix applied, only within the duration of the read command :) Johannes Schaub - litb May 28 '09 at 3:04 I knew there was a way with arrays, just couldn't remember what it was. I like setting the IFS but am not sure with the redirect from $IN and go through read just to populate array. Isn't just restoring IFS easier? Anyway +1 fro IFS suggestion, thanks. stefanB May 28 '09 at 3:11I didn't like this saved="$IFS"; IFS=';'; ADDR=($IN); IFS="$saved" mess. :) Johannes Schaub - litb May 28 '09 at 3:14 You can read everything at once without using a while loop: read -r -d '' -a addr <<< "$in" # The -d '' is key here, it tells read not to stop at the first newline (which is the default -d) but to continue until EOF or a NULL byte (which only occur in binary data). lhunath May 28 '09 at 6:14 lhunath, ah nice idea :) However when i say "-d ''", then it always adds a linefeed as last element to the array. I don't know why that is :( Johannes Schaub - litb May 28 '09 at 15:23 Seems to me the natural solution to the problem of splitting a line in bash with a custom word delimiter in a safe manner. Help me a lot. Eduardo Lago Aguilar Sep 8 '11 at 15:33 Why not do it the way I suggested? Am I missing something? James Andino Sep 25 '11 at 1:11 +1 Only a side note: shouldn't it be recommendable to keep the old IFS and then restore it? (as shown by stefanB in his edit3) people landing here (sometimes just copying and pasting a solution) might not think about this. Luca Borrione Sep 3 '12 at 9:23 -1, you're obviously not aware of wordsplitting, because it's introducing two bugs in your code. one is when you don't quote $IN and the other is when you pretend a newline is the only delimiter used in wordsplitting. You are iterating over every WORD in IN, not every line, and DEFINATELY not every element delimited by a semicolon, though it may appear to have the side-effect of looking like it works. lhunath May 28 '09 at 6:12 I would listen to you closer, Ihunath, and understand that you're right, if you weren't being as much of a jerk about it. While this is certainly not perfect (and I know that - I've seen wordsplitting before), if you know you're working with a list of semicolon-separated email addresses, good-enough is often better than technically correct. I upvoted the IFS answer (and even recommended that it be undeleted) because it's a better answer, but for the OP's problem this was good enough. There's a reason for the phrase "good enough." Chris Lutz May 28 '09 at 13:54You could change it to echo "$IN" | tr ';' '\n' | while read -r ADDY; do # process "$ADDY"; done to make him lucky, i think :) Note that this will fork, and you can't change outer variables from within the loop (that's why i used the <<< "$IN" syntax) then Johannes Schaub - litb May 28 '09 at 17:00 @Chris: People being satisfied with "good enough" is the reason why 99.9% of all bash scripts in existance are a danger to any one using them because of race conditions, bugs and security issues. "Good enough" is not good enough; and definitely not recommended (and any advice given is a recommendation to the one asking). lhunath May 28 '09 at 17:09I think that, while asking a new question, an OP try to insert a more specific part only to be clearer, while asking something more generic. You can see it crearly in this question: the OP started with the generic question How do I split a string based on a delimiter in Bash? and then he inserted his specific case to be clearer. After this question has been cast, people landing here want to know exactly how to split a generic string based on a delimiter and might not been fully satisfied in knowing how to solve the OP specific case. So lhunath is 100% correct imho Luca Borrione Sep 3 '12 at 10:46 Thanks, for I did not know <<< syntax till now! :-) anishsane Oct 26 '12 at 10:45 @LucaBorrione Setting IFS on the same line as the read with no semicolon or other separator, as opposed to in a separate command, scopes it to that command -- so it's always "restored"; you don't need to do anything manually. Charles Duffy Jul 6 '13 at 14:39 I noticed that parentheses are needed around $IN. Otherwise the whole string gets put into ADDR[0]. Why is this the case? @JohannesSchaub-litb +1 for the "Bash pitfalls" question jmendeth Mar 16 '12 at 18:44 With regards to your "Edit2": You can simply "unset IFS" and it will return to the default state. There's no need to save and restore it explicitly unless you have some reason to expect that it's already been set to a non-default value. Moreover, if you're doing this inside a function (and, if you aren't, why not?), you can set IFS as a local variable and it will return to its previous value once you exit the function. 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For determining the user's current timezone, you can use GeoLocating. Quandary Oct 3 '11 at 10:20 Shouldn't we close this question with the according to the rule: Questions asking for code must demonstrate a minimal understanding of the problem being solved. Include attempted solutions, why they didn't work, and the expected results. uthark Sep 6 '13 at 15:34 @uthark this was a self-answered question. Read the answers and pay attention to the author of the question and the answers. Also the dates and times. Jeff Atwood Sep 6 '13 at 20:36 @JeffAtwood author of accepted answer is community wiki. In revisions I see that accepted answer was written by Mike Polen, you just edited the answer, so it is not a self-answered question from what I see. And I see that it is something very old. uthark Sep 6 '13 at 22:11@donkaka - Please elaborate on what you are looking for with the bounty. Thanks. Matt Johnson Sep 16 '13 at 15:2 @Quandary: only if you want their age in standard time. If you want their age in some solar time like local mean time, their date of birth is not enough. We'll also need the latitude and longitude of their place of birth. Bas Sep 19 '13 at 13:38 Why not consider [Julian Date][1]? [1]: Muhammad Hewedy Oct 5 '13 at 13:32Why does this question have so many upvotes? Bobby Alexander Oct 7 '13 at 2:33 This is a base knowledge of c#,it's just a simple datetime function. >Why does this question have so many upvotes? Bobby Alexander Oct 7 at 2:33 xudong125 Nov 3 '13 at 14:07@uthark Don't be silly. This question has 675 upvotes at the time of writing this, which shows that it is a valuable resource for the community now, and for new-comers in the future. delete this account Dec 22 '13 at 8:23Just wanted to comment on DateTime.Now performance. If you don't need an accurate time zone value, use DateTime.UtcNow it's much faster. JAG Jan 22 '09 at 10:29Given we're talking birthdays you can just use DateTime.Today given the time part has no relevance. Tristan Warner-Smith Jul 24 '09 at 18:04 This answer does not work with all locales and all ages. Several countries have skipped dates after the birth of current living people, including Russia (1918), Greece (1924) and Turkey (1926). Lars D Nov 9 '09 at 22:09 So we have a different age according to different countries and calendar ? What a scoop... e-satis Nov 16 '09 at 16:35@JAG: DateTime.Today should be even faster. Shimmy Dec 14 '09 at 0:37 This is wrong! Try it with a person born 2000/02/29. If now is 2009/02/28, your code will state that the person is 9 years old. Danvil Apr 15 '10 at 19:13Good catch Danvil! Changed last line to: if (bday > now.AddYears(-age)) age--; I think that fixes it. It passed my measly 3 tests :-) Mike Polen Apr 16 '10 at 20:13Actually, it's still not entirely correct. This code presumes that 'bday' is the date-portion of a DateTime. It's an edge-case (I guess most people will just be passing dates and not date-times), but if you pass in a birthday as a date-and-time where the time is greater than 00:00:00 then you'll run into the bug Danvil pointed out. Setting bday = bday.Date fixes this. vind Nov 16 '10 at 15:37The last line made me think too much. Instead how about: if (bday.AddYears(age) > now) age--; This seems to be a more intuitive expression. cdiggins Jul 16 '11 at 17:53 Good idea cdiggins, but it doesn't work as bday.AddYears(age) when age is 2/29 returns 2/28 on years that ar e not leap years...keep trying Mike Polen Jul 18 '11 at 18:04Or just do if (BirthDate.DayOfYear > Today.DayOfYear); no need to forther modify the date variables NKCSS Aug 16 '12 at 15:15@NKCSS: That does not handle the leap year correctly. My testing shows that only if (bday > now.AddYears(-age)) works. Since DayOfYear returns 61 in 2012 and 60 in 2011 for March 1. Guvante Aug 21 '12 at 18:47 @Guvante Thanks...I lost my test last year when I lost my hard drive...I should have tested more Mike Polen Aug 23 '12 at 13:07@Danvil, is it really wrong? Take a simpler example. Birthday = 2000/02/29, Today = 2001/02/28. Days elapsed: 365. Isn't that one year, and therefore, isn't the person one year old on the 28th? Or is the definition of a year 365-1/4 days? I'm just sayin', it's complicated. devuxer Dec 12 '12 at 2:06Wouldn't it be easier to just do DateTime dateDifference = subject.Birthday - DateTime.Now; int age = dateDifference.Year;? Also, I don't think age depends on leap years. 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I know that virtual memory is not that relevant, but at least I would like to understand why this is needed. public class Main { public static void main(String[] args) { System.out.println("Hello World!"); try { Thread.sleep(10000); } catch(InterruptedException e) { /* ignored */ } } } Heres what top is saying when i run that little program: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 18764 myuser 20 0 10.2g 20m 8128 S 1.7 0.1 0:00.05 java Does anyone know why this is happening? uname -a says: But it's irrelevant - it doesn't matter. It's just a thing that greatly simplifies programming, and has no negative effect on the host OS whatsoever. It creates a continuous address space for the VM to use, which means that you don't have to fragment the heap (or worse, the stack, where it's more or less impossible - but those tend to be only a MiB or so) as you get to require more "real" memory. When you finally commit the virtual memory, it becomes slightly more real - at that point, it more or less has to be backed by some data storage - be it the page (swap) file or physical RAM. what do you think? 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I did update the graphics driver from the Intel website, not sure if this issue still exists. 5) Since two days back: Windows has detected an IP conflict, this popped up almost every two hours, nothing since the last five hours. What are the possible causes for this? This sorted itself out, as in the popup used to come and disappear automatically ============ Item #2 - I've help several friends, that even installing drivers didn't help. Try this: 1. Go into the control panel. 2. Find all the USB ports in the hardware area. 3. Delete the ports. 4. Reboot. 5. Every friend I've help, the reboot forced Windows to redetect the USB ports, and all worked out. ============ Item #5 - It means that your network most likely has AT LEAST two computers with the same IP on your home network. Try this: 1. On ALL COMPUTERS: 1.1. Open a ADMIN COMMAND WINDOW. 1.2. Issue the command (no quotes): "IPCONFIG /RELEASE" 1.3. Shutdown the computer (power down). 2. After ALL COMPUTERS are down: 2.1. Restart one of the computers. 2.2. Wait until the computer is completely up, and you're logged in. 2.3. Now start the another computer(s), and do the same (2.1. and 2.2). 2.4. Repeat the above for any other computers. 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Example for the actual/actual (counting all days "correctly") convention: DateTime start, end = .... // Whatever, assume start is before end double startYearContribution = 1 - (double) start.DayOfYear / (double) (DateTime.IsLeapYear(start.Year) ? 366 : 365); double endYearContribution = (double)end.DayOfYear / (double)(DateTime.IsLeapYear(end.Year) ? 366 : 365); double middleContribution = (double) (end.Year - start.Year - 1); double DCF = startYearContribution + endYearContribution + middleContribution; Another quite common way to measure time generally is by "serializing" (the dude who named this date convention must seriously have been trippin'): DateTime start, end = .... // Whatever, assume start is before end int days = (end - start).Days; I wonder how long we have to go before a relativistic age in seconds becomes more useful than the rough approximation of earth-around-sun-cycles during ones lifetime so far :) Or in other words, when a period must be given a location or a function representing motion for itself to be valid :) I've heard vague rumours that this is terifically slow. Anyone know? Orion Edwards Oct 15 '08 at 1:31 269 Enumerating an enum with 52 values 100000 times: 3884ms Enumerating an int[] with 52 values 100000 times: 99ms yes, far slower tha@Hainesy - haha! eds more than a syntax hilighter. it needs a syntax checker. fixed. jop Aug Is there any way it can be enumerated in the order of how the values are declared? Both GetValues and GetNames return them ordered by the numeric value :/ David Sep 13 '11 at 14:46 @TheSoftwareJedi nice benchmark, though I think it's because ints get special optimization which .NET Enums can never dream of. Luka Ramishvili Nov 11 '11 at 6:55 This doesn't work if you have duplicate values in the enumerator list. Jessy Jun 17 '12 at 3:50 @Jessy I can't compile an enum with duplicate values, can you? PandaWood Sep 6 '12 at 4:04 @PandaWood enum E {A = 0, B = 0} Jessy Sep 6 '12 at 15:44 @Jessy, oh right, I'm always using enum E { bla, bla2} where enum E { bla, bla} doesn't compile. Which is what the questioner is doing as well, so using int like you've done probably doesn't really apply here, since there's unlikely to be any purpose to enumerating an enum with raw ints - it's the list of string names I think we're all after PandaWood Sep 11 '12 at 2:43@Jessy: I'd suppose Code Complete had at-least-two-distinctive-values enum in mind. Your sample is possible, but not advisable. Peter Ivan Oct 23 '12 at 5:40 @Jessy, you have to see a context. In case of foreach you don't need such limits, and kudos for you if you can enumerate arbitrary enum with for loop (in such case nothing will really help you, e.g. enum foo { abc = 1, abc = 17 }). But if you really want first, and last -- LINQ First and Last will do the trick. greenoldman Dec 1 '12 at 23:00Another point to note is that a lot of that 4 seconds will be in the Enum.Getvalues bit. Get that first, and once, and what do you get then? Immortal Blue Feb 5 '13 at 19:12 The compile-time return type of GetValues is System.Array. If you foreach directly, like above, you will get the non-generic IEnumerable implementation of System.Array. This involves boxing all the enum values into an object box, which is then unboxed by the cast present in your foreach. If instead you use foreach (var suit in (Suit[])Enum.GetValues(typeof(Suit))) you don't get any boxing. The cast from Array to Suit[] is one simple reference conversion and happens only once. I can't beleive 181 people upvoted @TheSoftwareJedi's comment on performance without mention of this. Jeppe Stig Nielsen Apr 15 '13 at 17:57 @JeppeStigNielsen, Just did a test with your method, it indeed is basically identical performance to int[] if you perform the cast only once. I pulled the Enum.GetValues outside of the loops in both cases. The int[] was about 60 milliseconds. Likewise with the cast. Without the cast, it was just over a second. 50 values, 100,000 iterations over those 50 values. Travis May 2 '13 at 19:35 @Jessy if you need all the names (including the ones with duplicate values), maybe try Enum.GetNames in conjunction with Enum.Parse. It's going to be a little slow though, I recommend doing it once during initialization (or the first time it's needed) and caching the results into an array. BrainSlugs83 Aug 13 '13 at 2:05 @David no, the order they are declared in is lost at compile time. You could instead add a custom attribute to each enum specifying what order you want them in, and then reorder your array based on the value of that custom attribute. BrainSlugs83 Aug 13 '13 at 2:07 how about EnumSet.allOf ? Kalpesh Soni Aug 27 '13 at 21:02I just want to point out that this, unfortunately won't work in silverlight, since the silverlight library don't comprise enum.GetValues. You have to use reflection in this case. Giacomo Tagliabue Oct 17 '13 at 5:50 @Jessy this does work in case of duplicate situations like enum E {A = 0, B = 0}. Enum.GetValues results in two values being returned, though they are the same. E.A == E.B is true, so there is not distinction. If you want individual names, then you should look for Enum.GetNames. nawfal Nov 7 '13 at 9:25 From AlexAlvarez@egw2.gidoval.com Tue May 27 10:57:29 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2E31A056D for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 10:57:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.147 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.147 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1poJ3kROp-6w for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 10:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from egw2.gidoval.com (egw2.gidoval.com [207.66.58.210]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7CC1A04E9 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 10:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 10:57:25 -0700 Subject: |Overstocked auto lots| - Priced below Kelly Blue Book To: Message-ID: <20140526210107.32188.102.743.52334.663.74.00000001.ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org> From: Vehicles Below KBB Do the recent Automobile Recalls have you worried about your families safety? Take a deep breath..... Dealers have teamed up and are offering a special Clearance -to put you in a new safe vehicle View Clearance Inventory -> http://www.gidoval.com/summer/auto/clearance.index _Dealer Clearance Update_ - send modifications - Update Notice Messages 118 Kecks Lane Ruff Dale, PA 15679 or http://www.gidoval.com/ihg/sfgk.s49tf @Travis: The last thing I will tell you (because I just noticed it right now) is to read this answer below. I had already mentioned this before, but since that answer actually demonstrates it, I'll say it again: my answer saves & restores the string perfectly; encoding-based methods fail to work on char sequences that can't be represented correctly. Mehrdad Aug 6 '13 at 0:41 3 @Mehrdad, thanks for the recommendation. Downvoted. Travis Aug 6 '13 at 14:23 1 Isn't it that, because .NET uses UTF-16 internally and 16 bit characters therefore, a string in this example is in fact encoded using UTF-16? If you use Encoding.Unicode.GetString(), which is UTF-16, on the byte-array created in this example, it produces the original string value. Kai Hartmann Aug 9 '13 at 22:31 1 Yes, this answer works for niche use cases. But other answers work for all use cases. Why not use the superior (and just as easy to use... and less error prone) techniques that require you to type in an encoding? Giving this a big fat -1 because of that. Thomas Eding Sep 27 '13 at 18:16 @Thomas: No, the other answers don't work for all use cases. You came to that conclusion without reading Michael Buen's answer. Mehrdad Sep 27 '13 at 21:40 1 @Mehrdad: I didn't say "all other answers work for all use cases" (see the extra all). Pedantic reply for a pseudo-pedantic response. Thomas Eding Sep 27 '13 at 22:15 2 @Thomas: I never said you said that either; you didn't understand what I'm trying to tell you. Did you read his answer? His answer tells you why mine can handle cases that none of the other answers can. None of the answers here handles all cases, but mine handles the relevant cases to the OP. Mehrdad Sep 27 '13 at 22:44 @Mehrdad: Fair enough. But I still don't like this solution. Not sure completely about his (I don't feel like learning about unpaired surrogates at the moment, but it seems like it is something along the lines of a trap representation). Thomas Eding Sep 27 '13 at 22:56 @Thomas: I don't really care if you "like" the solution (heck, I don't particularly either), but you can't deny that it's the only correct answer given here for the OP's use case (conversion between strings and byte arrays). The other answers destroy some char sequences in the process, mine doesn't. Keep your downvote, but please think twice before hopping on the bandwagon and spreading misinformation. Mehrdad Sep 27 '13 at 23:01 @Mehrdad: How do I convert a string to a byte array in .NET (C#)? is the OP's described use case. Literally any answer that returns a byte[] would be technically correct. But I'm done with this extended chat. Thomas Eding Sep 27 '13 at 23:03 @ThomasEding: If all you wanted to do was to downvote this answer because it doesn't please you, then I don't see why you bothered to comment in the first place. Don't bother doing it next time, otherwise people might think you actually care to know the reason behind the answer you're commenting on, and they'll waste their time trying to explain it to you. Mehrdad Sep 27 '13 at 23:19 2 "Worrying about encodings just makes your life more complicated for no real reason." - Er, except that the answers that do worry about encoding are much simpler than this one. And of course, this answer still does rely on a particular encoding - str.ToCharArray() must rely on an encoding, even if that encoding is not explicitly mentioned in the code (which can only be considered bad). I respect you a lot, Mehrdad, but this is a terrible answer. BlueRaja - Danny Pflughoeft Oct 1 '13 at 19:16 @BlueRaja-DannyPflughoeft: Read my comments above. The abstraction layer we concern ourselves with here (i.e. the need for perfect 1:1 reconstruction on a given system) isn't the same as when you worry about encodings (i.e. interoperability with another system). They're two completely unrelated concerns and the former has nothing to do with encoding (and in fact cannot be done with any encoding scheme here). Mehrdad Oct 1 '13 at 19:47 1 This does not keep the encoding intact. Too bad this is the accepted answer with the highest votes because I just wasted 2 hours trying to find out why my strings get garbled. Chased it down to a method that used this answer to convert string -> byte[]. user1151923 Oct 9 '13 at 12:26 @user1151923: Can you show me an example of an actual string that gets garbled? I can't fix the answer if you don't tell me how to reproduce the problem... Mehrdad Oct 9 '13 at 19:29 var input = " "; var ms = new MemoryStream(GetBytes(input)); var sr = new StreamReader(ms); var output = sr.ReadToEnd(); output is B5AB user1151923 Oct 10 '13 at 13:43 I would add that I don't think "For those goals" is a justification to an answer that [sometimes] messes up encoding. What people are gonna see when they open this question is the question (.NET String to byte Array C#) and a highly rated answer claiming you don't need to worry about encoding in bold text (which by the way is missing the "for those goals" part). There are answers below that are shorter or just as long and that keep the encoding intact regardless of where and how you use the code. user1151923 Oct 10 '13 at 13:49 3 @user1151923: Dude, the problem is with your code, not my answer! You're using GetBytes to convert a string to bytes, but you're not using GetString to go the reverse direction! These are supposed to be used in pairs; you can't just do whatever you feel like and expect it to work. If you don't use encodings one way you also have to ignore them in the reverse direction, but you ignored the fact that StreamReader is encoding-based! Read my comment earlier: stackoverflow.com/questions/472906/ Mehrdad Oct 10 '13 at 18:11 @user1151923: And before you blame me for not warning you, realize that what has happened in your code is exactly equivalent to using new StreamReader(stream).ReadToEnd() to go in one direction, but using Encoding.UTF8 to go in the other direction. It's wrong because the writer was careless, and it has nothing to do with the answer that might have told you to use UTF8. If the fact that StreamReader uses UTF-16 by default is confusing, don't blame it on my answer; it's not my fault it was designed that way. Mehrdad Oct 10 '13 at 18:26 2 @Mehrad Just because your answer is technically correct in this case doesn't make it a good answer for the reasons stated by many before me. It's like recommending the goto statement when better alternatives are available because "well it works in this case doesn't it?". This site is meant for answers that will function properly for as many usecases as possible within the scope of the question. You announcing "YOU DONT NEED ENCODING" in a big size at the top of your answer while leaving the main caveat as a little side note at the bottom could lead to problems. Leon Lucardie Oct 23 '13 at 10:48 6 @LeonLucardie: The other alternatives aren't "better"; in fact, they're worse because they break on strings that can't be encoded correctly (such as those that contain unpaired surrogates). I've mentioned this a million times now, but apparently it's very convenient for people to ignore this fact... Mehrdad Oct 23 '13 at 10:51 2 @Mehrdad Even in a perfect world where people would act professional, they won't take the time to do a little research. I'm almost positive that all pros and cons of this solution have been addressed in the comments here, as well as in the other answers. If there are still those who won't realize this fact and feel that continuing to argue (even 1.25 years later) over points that have already been addressed then it's not worth your time nor anyone else's to argue further. There are answers here that apply to both 'need-encoding' and 'don't-need-encoding' use cases; it's as simple as that. From WesleyWard@egw2.gidoval.com Tue May 27 11:00:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFAB1A064B for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 11:00:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.255 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.255 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.886, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.922, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_DBL_SPAM=2.5] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vp9UvBIJ3--T for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 11:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from egw2.gidoval.com (egw2.gidoval.com [207.66.58.210]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD7F1A04F8 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 11:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: To: Subject: |Overstocked Auto lots| (2014 models) Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 11:00:17 -0700 From: Auto Overstock Do the recent Automobile Recalls have you worried about your families safety? Take a deep breath..... Dealers have teamed up and are offering a special Clearance -to put you in a new safe vehicle View Clearance Inventory -> http://www.gidoval.com/summer/auto/clearance.index _Dealer Clearance Update_ - send modifications - Update Notice Messages 118 Kecks Lane Ruff Dale, PA 15679 or http://www.gidoval.com/ihg/sfgk.s49tf @Travis: The last thing I will tell you (because I just noticed it right now) is to read this answer below. I had already mentioned this before, but since that answer actually demonstrates it, I'll say it again: my answer saves & restores the string perfectly; encoding-based methods fail to work on char sequences that can't be represented correctly. Mehrdad Aug 6 '13 at 0:41 3 @Mehrdad, thanks for the recommendation. Downvoted. Travis Aug 6 '13 at 14:23 1 Isn't it that, because .NET uses UTF-16 internally and 16 bit characters therefore, a string in this example is in fact encoded using UTF-16? If you use Encoding.Unicode.GetString(), which is UTF-16, on the byte-array created in this example, it produces the original string value. Kai Hartmann Aug 9 '13 at 22:31 1 Yes, this answer works for niche use cases. But other answers work for all use cases. Why not use the superior (and just as easy to use... and less error prone) techniques that require you to type in an encoding? Giving this a big fat -1 because of that. Thomas Eding Sep 27 '13 at 18:16 @Thomas: No, the other answers don't work for all use cases. You came to that conclusion without reading Michael Buen's answer. Mehrdad Sep 27 '13 at 21:40 1 @Mehrdad: I didn't say "all other answers work for all use cases" (see the extra all). Pedantic reply for a pseudo-pedantic response. Thomas Eding Sep 27 '13 at 22:15 2 @Thomas: I never said you said that either; you didn't understand what I'm trying to tell you. Did you read his answer? His answer tells you why mine can handle cases that none of the other answers can. None of the answers here handles all cases, but mine handles the relevant cases to the OP. Mehrdad Sep 27 '13 at 22:44 @Mehrdad: Fair enough. But I still don't like this solution. Not sure completely about his (I don't feel like learning about unpaired surrogates at the moment, but it seems like it is something along the lines of a trap representation). Thomas Eding Sep 27 '13 at 22:56 @Thomas: I don't really care if you "like" the solution (heck, I don't particularly either), but you can't deny that it's the only correct answer given here for the OP's use case (conversion between strings and byte arrays). The other answers destroy some char sequences in the process, mine doesn't. Keep your downvote, but please think twice before hopping on the bandwagon and spreading misinformation. Mehrdad Sep 27 '13 at 23:01 @Mehrdad: How do I convert a string to a byte array in .NET (C#)? is the OP's described use case. Literally any answer that returns a byte[] would be technically correct. But I'm done with this extended chat. Thomas Eding Sep 27 '13 at 23:03 @ThomasEding: If all you wanted to do was to downvote this answer because it doesn't please you, then I don't see why you bothered to comment in the first place. Don't bother doing it next time, otherwise people might think you actually care to know the reason behind the answer you're commenting on, and they'll waste their time trying to explain it to you. Mehrdad Sep 27 '13 at 23:19 2 "Worrying about encodings just makes your life more complicated for no real reason." - Er, except that the answers that do worry about encoding are much simpler than this one. And of course, this answer still does rely on a particular encoding - str.ToCharArray() must rely on an encoding, even if that encoding is not explicitly mentioned in the code (which can only be considered bad). I respect you a lot, Mehrdad, but this is a terrible answer. BlueRaja - Danny Pflughoeft Oct 1 '13 at 19:16 @BlueRaja-DannyPflughoeft: Read my comments above. The abstraction layer we concern ourselves with here (i.e. the need for perfect 1:1 reconstruction on a given system) isn't the same as when you worry about encodings (i.e. interoperability with another system). They're two completely unrelated concerns and the former has nothing to do with encoding (and in fact cannot be done with any encoding scheme here). Mehrdad Oct 1 '13 at 19:47 1 This does not keep the encoding intact. Too bad this is the accepted answer with the highest votes because I just wasted 2 hours trying to find out why my strings get garbled. Chased it down to a method that used this answer to convert string -> byte[]. user1151923 Oct 9 '13 at 12:26 @user1151923: Can you show me an example of an actual string that gets garbled? I can't fix the answer if you don't tell me how to reproduce the problem... Mehrdad Oct 9 '13 at 19:29 var input = " "; var ms = new MemoryStream(GetBytes(input)); var sr = new StreamReader(ms); var output = sr.ReadToEnd(); output is B5AB user1151923 Oct 10 '13 at 13:43 I would add that I don't think "For those goals" is a justification to an answer that [sometimes] messes up encoding. What people are gonna see when they open this question is the question (.NET String to byte Array C#) and a highly rated answer claiming you don't need to worry about encoding in bold text (which by the way is missing the "for those goals" part). There are answers below that are shorter or just as long and that keep the encoding intact regardless of where and how you use the code. user1151923 Oct 10 '13 at 13:49 3 @user1151923: Dude, the problem is with your code, not my answer! You're using GetBytes to convert a string to bytes, but you're not using GetString to go the reverse direction! These are supposed to be used in pairs; you can't just do whatever you feel like and expect it to work. If you don't use encodings one way you also have to ignore them in the reverse direction, but you ignored the fact that StreamReader is encoding-based! Read my comment earlier: stackoverflow.com/questions/472906/ Mehrdad Oct 10 '13 at 18:11 @user1151923: And before you blame me for not warning you, realize that what has happened in your code is exactly equivalent to using new StreamReader(stream).ReadToEnd() to go in one direction, but using Encoding.UTF8 to go in the other direction. It's wrong because the writer was careless, and it has nothing to do with the answer that might have told you to use UTF8. If the fact that StreamReader uses UTF-16 by default is confusing, don't blame it on my answer; it's not my fault it was designed that way. Mehrdad Oct 10 '13 at 18:26 2 @Mehrad Just because your answer is technically correct in this case doesn't make it a good answer for the reasons stated by many before me. It's like recommending the goto statement when better alternatives are available because "well it works in this case doesn't it?". This site is meant for answers that will function properly for as many usecases as possible within the scope of the question. You announcing "YOU DONT NEED ENCODING" in a big size at the top of your answer while leaving the main caveat as a little side note at the bottom could lead to problems. Leon Lucardie Oct 23 '13 at 10:48 6 @LeonLucardie: The other alternatives aren't "better"; in fact, they're worse because they break on strings that can't be encoded correctly (such as those that contain unpaired surrogates). I've mentioned this a million times now, but apparently it's very convenient for people to ignore this fact... Mehrdad Oct 23 '13 at 10:51 2 @Mehrdad Even in a perfect world where people would act professional, they won't take the time to do a little research. I'm almost positive that all pros and cons of this solution have been addressed in the comments here, as well as in the other answers. If there are still those who won't realize this fact and feel that continuing to argue (even 1.25 years later) over points that have already been addressed then it's not worth your time nor anyone else's to argue further. There are answers here that apply to both 'need-encoding' and 'don't-need-encoding' use cases; it's as simple as that. 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You have no evidence of how OP was going to use the bytes. Other people will have the exact same question, but will be planning to use the bytes in a situation where encoding matters, and your answer will be dead wrong in that case. artbristol Jun 15 '12 at 14:25 Well, the way I think about it is: I'm not a judge. I don't ask for "evidence" from the OP to try to prove his case before I answer him (contrary to what others might try to do). He clearly said, "Can't I simply get what bytes the string has been stored in? Why this dependency on encoding?", to which my answer is 100% accurate, more than the others on this page IMO. And IMO he's understood the caveats by now. Also, the fact that the answer was from 3 years ago is irrelevant. But again, if you'd rather ask for "evidence" first, then that's your style, and feel free to keep the downvote.. Mehrdad Jun 15 '12 at 14:32 When the questioner says that, you should interpret it as 'I don't understand encodings, bytes, and characters'. You are taking it too literally. artbristol Jun 15 '12 at 14:37 @artbristol: I definitely don't agree about how you think I "should interpret" questions on SO, but thanks for letting me know. Mehrdad Jun 15 '12 at 14:48 But, why should encoding be taken into consideration? Why can't I simply get the bytes without having to see what encoding is being used? Even if it were required, shouldn't the String object itself know what encoding is being used and simply dump what is in memory? Agnel Kurian Jan A .NET strings are always encoded as Unicode. So use System.Text.Encoding.Unicode.GetBytes(); to get the set of bytes that .NET would using to represent the characters. However why would you want that? I recommend UTF-8 especially when most characters are in the western latin set. AnthonyWJones Jan 23 '09 at 14:33 There's also System.Text.Encoding.Default Joel Coehoorn Jan 23 '09 at 15:39 Also: the exact bytes used internally in the string don't matter if the system that retrieves them doesn't handle that encoding or handles it as the wrong encoding. If it's all within .Net, why convert to an array of bytes at all. Otherwise, it's better to be explicit with your encoding Joel Coehoorn Jan 23 '09 at 15:42 @Joel, Be careful with System.Text.Encoding.Default as it could be different on each machine it is run. That's why it's recommended to always specify an encoding, such as UTF-8. Ash Jan 28 '10 at 9:01 1 character could be represented by 1 or more bytes" I agree. I just want those bytes regardless of what encoding the string is in. The only way a string can be stored in memory is in bytes. Even characters are stored as 1 or more bytes. I merely want to get my hands on them bytes. Agnel Kurian Jan 23 '09 at 14:07 You don't need the encodings unless you (or someone else) actually intend(s) to interpret the data, instead of treating it as a generic "block of bytes". For things like compression, encryption, etc., worrying about the encoding is meaningless. See my answer for a way to do this without worrying about the encoding. Mehrdad Apr 30 '12 at 7:54@Mehrdad - Totally, but the original question, as stated when I initially answered, didn't caveat what OP was going to happen with those bytes after they'd converted them, and for future searchers the information around that is pertinent - this is covered by Joel's answer quite nicely - and as you state within your answer: provided you stick within the .NET world, and use your methods to convert to/from, you're happy. As soon as you step outside of that, encoding will matter. You don't need the encodings unless you (or someone else) actually intend(s) to interpret the data, instead of treating it as a generic "block of bytes". For things like compression, encryption, etc., worrying about the encoding is meaningless. See my answer for a way to do this without worrying about the encoding. (I might have given a -1 for saying you need to worry about encodings when you don't, but I'm not feeling particularly mean today. :P) Mehrdad Apr 30 '12 at 7:55 Good discussion, sometimes I need one of the above alternatives. But also looks like: "One fool can ask more than seven wise men can answer" :-) Roland Mar 26 '13 at 14:49 1 Don't surrogates have to appear in pairs to form valid code points? If that's the case, I can understand why the data would be mangled. dtanders Jun 14 '12 at 14:27 @dtanders Yes,that's my thoughts too, they have to appear in pairs, unpaired surrogate characters just happen if you deliberately put them on string and make them unpaired. What I don't know is why other devs keep on harping that we should use encoding-aware approach instead, as they deemed the serialization approach(my answer,which was an accepted answer for more than 3 years) doesn't keep the unpaired surrogate character intact. But they forgot to check that their encoding-aware solutions doesn't keep the unpaired surrogate character too,the irony Allow me to clarify: An encoding has been used to translate "hello world" to physical bytes. Since the string is stored on my computer, I am sure that it must be stored in bytes. I merely want to access those bytes to save them on disk or for any other reason. I do not want to interpret these bytes. Since I do not want to interpret these bytes, the need for an encoding at this point is as misplaced as requiring a phone line to call printf . Agnel Kurian Jul 16 '09 at 15:30 But again, there is no concept of text-to-physical-bytes-translation unless yo use an encoding. Sure, the compiler stores the strings somehow in memory - but it is just using an internal encoding, which you (or anyone except the compiler developer) do not know. So, whatever you do, you need an encoding to get physical bytes from a string. Konamiman Jul 22 '09 at 8: @Agnel Kurian: It is of course true, that a string has a bunch of bytes somewhere that store its content (UTF-16 afair). But there is a good reason to prevent you from accessing it: strings are immutable and if you could obtain the internal byte[] array, you could modify it, too. This breaks immutability, which is vital because multiple strings may share the same data. Using an UTF-16 encoding to get the string will probably just copy the data out. ollb May 14 '11 at 0:06 Michael Buen Jun 14 '12 at 23:23 If there's a serialization library that uses System.Buffer.BlockCopy internally, all encoding-advocacy folks' arguments will be moodad: The GetString method is and interpretation of the output of the GetBytes method. 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Mike Brown Oct 21 '08 at 23:26 @Mike Brown: Hmmm, unknown variable types. Sounds like we're going back to the dark days of typeless and variant languages. shiver Ian Boyd Jun 1 '10 at 17:45 The variable is still typed in the same way as other variables. It's just that you allow the compiler to infer the type from the RHS of the assignment (it can only be used with assignments, you can't just do var foo;). This is particularly important with LINQ, as the returned types can be quite complex, and not easy to work out yourself. Matt Sach Jun 3 '10 at 14:36 @Matt Sach: It's fine as long as the type inferred by the compiler is the type i inferred when i wrote it. Ian Boyd Oct 1 '10 at 21:31@IanBoyd: Graphain is right, in C#, var is what you need when you may get different types from different queries. but if what you are shivering about is called dynamic typing, then I don't get your point. Luka Ramishvili Nov 11 '11 at 7:02It's simply wrong to think about programming language development as evolution. There were no dark days back then, because one of the most powerful languages is second oldest (not to mention others). so bad languages aren't neccessarily from the past . Luka Ramishvili Nov 11 '11 at 7:09 @Haacked - Nice one. Definitely GetNames() in his circumstance. I've got a slightly different situation. I have a [Flags] enum for permissions. A class has a property of this enum type, and its value may be one or more flags... what i am trying to do is parse the individual flags out of this value, so that i can enumerate over them. Phil? Anyone else? one.beat.consumeEDIT: I know a cheeseball way... converting the multi-flag enum value to string, splitting it, and parsing each string back to a single-flag enum value... but that is nasty. there's got to be a cleaner, more simple method. one.beat.consumer Dec 1 '11 at 1:34 +1 for novel use of generics and linq queries. Although i would smack anyone who used it in practice. Ian Boyd Feb 2 '12 at 19:02Ian, thanks for the +1. I am new to C# and I am keen explore and learn best practice. I do use it in practice; why I deserve a smack? James Feb 3 '12 at 11:46 Careful with using generics like this. If you try to use EnumLoop with some type that is not an enum, it will compile fine, but throw an exception at runtime. svick Feb 6 '12 at 12:09Thank you svick. Runtime exceptions will actually occur with the other answers on this page... except this one because I have added "where Key : struct, IConvertible" so that you get a compile time error in most cases. James Feb 7 '12 at 12:13 No, GetValues() is called only once in the foreach. Great, I didn't even know that keyword. Always nice to learn something new. Thank you! Does it always return a reference to the same object, or does it create a new instance each time the default statement is called? I haven't found anything on the net about this so far, but if it creates a new instance every time, it kind of defeats the purpose I was looking for (having a one-liner ^^). Mallox Jul 8 '10 at 6:48.GetValue(new T())? Jason Miesionczek Jun 21 '11 at 2:33 Wouldn't this create a new instance for every iteration over the enumeration? Mallox Jun 28 '11 at 15:04 -1 for "supports type checking at compile time:". What type checking? This would work for any new() T. Also, you dont need new T() at all, you can select just the static fields alone and doue(null). See Aubrey's answer. Your confusion over the role of encoding makes me wonder if this is the right question. Why are you trying to convert a string to a byte array? What are you going to do with the byte array? Greg D Jan 23 '09 at 13:56 I'm going to encrypt it. I can encrypt it without converting but I'd still like to know why encoding comes to play here. Just give me the bytes is what I say. Agnel Kurian Jan 23 '09 at 13:57 If you're encrypting it, then you'll still have to know what the encoding is after you decrypt it so that you know how to reinterpret those bytes back into a string. Greg D Jan 23 '09 at 14:00 Every string is stored as an array of bytes right? Why can't I simply have those bytes? Agnel Kurian Jan 23 '09 at 14:05Have a look at Jon Skeet's answer in a post with the exact question. It will explain why you depend on encoding. Igal Tabachnik Jan 23 '09 at 14:15 I think Anthony is trying to address the fundamental disconnect in <300 chars. You're assuming some consistent internal representation of a string, when in fact that representation could be anything. To create, and eventually decode, the bytestream, you must choose an encoding to use. Greg D Jan 23 '09 at 16:38 "A string is an array of chars, where a char is not a byte in the .Net world" Alright, but regardless of the encoding, each character maps to one or more bytes. Can I have those bytes please without having to specify an encoding? Agnel Kurian Mar 4 '09 at 5:51The encoding is what maps the characters to the bytes. For example, in ASCII, the letter 'A' maps to the number 65. In a different encoding, it might not be the same. The high-level approach to strings taken in the .NET framework makes this largely irrelevant, though (except in this case). Lucas Jones Apr 13 '09 at 14:13 ul 22 '09 at 11:30To play devil's advocate: If you wanted to get the bytes of an in-memory string (as .NET uses them) and manipulate them somehow (i.e. CRC32), and NEVER EVER wanted to decode it back into the original string...it isn't straight forward why you'd care about encodings or how you choose which one to use. Greg Dec 1 '09 at ay-c/ Michael Buen Jul 9 '10 at 0:08 possible duplicate of How do you convert a string to a byte arraydamjcooper Jul 6 '13 at 11:47 @AgnelKurian, A char is a struct that just happens to currently store values as a 16-bit number (UTF-16). What you're really asking (get the character bytes) isn't theoretically possible because it doesn't theoretically exist. A char or string has no Encoding by definition. What if the memory representation changed to UTF-32? Your "get the bytes, shove them back" would fail due to Encoding because you avoided Encoding. So "Why this dependency on enDepend on Encoding so your code is dependable. Travis Aug 5 '13 at 22:04 @Bevan because the necessary errata to go with that link won't fit into a 600-character comment, and would beoff-topic as an answer? Jon Hanna Jan 6 at 14:04 @JonHanna enlighten us. A blog post wouldn't be out of place in this case. Agnel Kurian Jan 7 at 10:48 @AgnelKurian it was seeing incorrect things cited was one of my reasons fo about Klingon, or pointing out that EBCDIC is still found in the wild. Jon Hanna Jan 7 at 10:58 What's ugly about this one is, that GetString and GetBytes need to executed on a system with the same endianness to work. So you can't use this to get bytes you want to turn into a string elsewhere. So I have a hard time to come up with a situations where I'd want to use this. CodesInChaos May 13 '12 at 11:14 @CodeInChaos: Like I said, the whole point of this is if you want to use it on the same kind of system, with the same set of functions. If not, then you shouldn't use it. Mehrdad May 13 '12 at 18:00 -1 I guarantee that someone (who doesn't understand bytes vs characters) is going to want to convert their string into a byte array, they will google it and read this answer, and they will do the wrong thing, because in almost all cases, the encoding IS relevant. artbristol Jun 15 '12 at 11:07 @artbristol: If they can't be bothered to read the answer (or the other answers...), then I'm sorry, then there's no better way for me to communicate with them. I generally opt for answering the OP rather than trying to guess what others might do with my answer -- the OP has the right to know, and just because someone might abuse a knife doesn't mean we need to hide all knives in the world for ourselves. Though if you disagree that's fine too. Mehrdad Jun 15 '12 at 14:04 45 This answer is wrong on so many levels but foremost because of it's decleration "you DON'T need to worry about encoding!". The 2 methods, GetBytes and GetString are superfluous in as much as they are merely re-implementations of what Encoding.Unicode.GetBytes() and Encoding.Unicode.GetString() already do. 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It is now drifting slowly to the north-northwest; this slow forward motion is expected to continue through Thursday. Other than a few minor islands well offshore such as Socorro Island, it is no threat to land.

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Again, to reemphasize, this system is not expected to threaten the North American mainland. However, it is possible some of Amanda's remnant mid-and upper-level moisture may get pulled northward into parts of the Desert Southwest and Rockies later in the week.

Amanda's estimated maximum sustained winds reached 155 mph late Sunday morning, putting it at the top end of the Category 4 range on the five-category

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In particular; I need to find a way of uniquely identifying a device that does not have any app installed thats paired with the beacon at perhaps months of interval apart. For instance on wifi this is possible via the mac address of a device set to scan for open networks (if the user hasnt changed the MAC address). Is this possible? Alex May 8 at 4:32 @Alex I feel strong contradictions in what you are trying to do. 1. iOS devices don't start advertising themselves automatically. There must be an app that starts it. 2. iOS devices don't try to connect anywhere without an app. 3. The wifi you mention works only if the device connects to your network. 4. iOS uses random MAC addresses for BLE exactly to prevent easy identification. 5. iBeacons are usually not connectable but an app is a must to do so any way. So I guess you may need to reconsider your requirements. Very sorry...here you go. 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Please Confirm Which 1 of the Following You are Experiencing here -> http://www.mawcustom.com/may/policy/update.index ~ Getting Married ~ Buying A Home ~ Managing A Growing Family ~ Becoming A Stay At Home Parent ~ Running Your Own Business ~ The Single Life ~ Life After The Kids Have Moved Out ~ Planning For Retirement ~ Supporting Aging Parents ~ Estate And Legacy Planning ------ End Policy Update ------ we hope that you enjoyed this message If you would like to stop further correspondence -Update Notice Messages 118 K e c k s L a n e|Ruff Dale| PA |1 5 6 7 9 or http://www.mawcustom.com/kfne.k3rj @Steve indexOf always returns a number so theres no need to use !==. If you want to save bytes, you could use indexOf('oo') which returns a truthy value if the substring is found, and a falsy value (0) if it isnt. Mathias Bynens Jul 7 '11 at 11:00For the curious: in two's compliment systems, -1 is represented in binary as all 1 1 1111 for 32 bit). The bitwise inverse (~) of this is all zeros, or just zero, and therefore falsy. That's why the squiggle trick works, and it is pretty bad-ass if I must say so myself. Adam Tolley Sep 14 '11 Writing code that is unreadable because it's full of tricks isn't "bad ass" so much as just "bad". boxed Dec 23 '11 at 8:455 @MathiasBynens Actually not, since if it's the first letter it will return the falsy 0, even though it contains the value. Just test in any browser console: 'hello'.indexOf('h') Seb Nilsson Feb 7 '12 at 17:56 11 3 does this work o4 Be careful while using inde pramodc84 Apr 5 '12 at 9:55 13 @pramodc84 that link refers to the Array object indexOf method not to the String object method gion_13 Apr 26 '12 at 13:26 I've written a small function that encapsulates this kind of behaviour (see below) ndemoreau Jun 11 '12 at 19:37I want to give a little addition to make it non-case-sensitive which is beneficial for me: var s = "foo",t = "oo";alert(s.toLowerCase().indexOf(t.toLowerCase()) != -1); kirlisakal Oct 3 '12 at 14:09 Applied my new-found bitwise knowledge Xeoncross Oct 10 '12 at 19:38 @pramodc84, that's Array.prototype.indexOf(); String.prototype.indexOf() is available everywhere. cbrandolino Nov 28 '12 at 9:29@boxed That very much depends upon why you're writing the code and what tricks you're using. Sometimes tricks like this are necessary to make code faster/more memory efficient etc. Readability isn't everything. Luke Dec 18 '12 at 16:44Maybe in 2016, if ECMAScript 6 is widely adopted & implemented, we'll be able to do that! :P "orange juice".contains("juice") Lucas Pottersky Jan 10 '13 at 21:34@Luke You are right. It should be noted for the js (or development) newbie that as a general practice, preferring readability/maintainability over fine tuning is probably best. In cases where tuning is necessary explanatory comments in an uncompressed version of ones code are invaluable for pointing out what's going on and why one is being 'tricky'. jin Nov 26 '13 at 21:08Why !== ? I prefer ! = . Nov 29 '13 at 15:23@NicolasBarbulesco Automagically castiny values can be very dangerous if you don't know exactly what you're doing. See this post for a more thorough explanation of the difference in these two comparison operators. DesertIvy Dec 5 '13 at 16:28@DesertIvy In the light of this, I confirm that I prefer !=, not !==. Here, I don't want to test the types, I want to test I am confident that all of the people who look at my code will know that [["\t\n 987654321e-400"]] === 0 is false. I am much less confident that everyone who looks at my code will know that [["\t\n 987654321e-432"]] == 0 is true. kybernetikos Dec 11 '13 at 15:48 Blindly following the "always use !==" rule is not the answer here, you can safely use != if you know that you are comparing two numbers. -1 is NOT falsey and therefore != is always appropriate in this specific instance. Greg Dec 11 '13 at 16:35@Greg Amen! I can't stand people who don't want to understand proper JS comparison rules and want to blindly follow the "always use strict comparison" rule (probably from Crockford). Strict comparison can cause bugs too. Juan Mendes Feb 11 at 18:58 The squiggle (~str.indexOf()) could be considered idiomatic by now. Writing idiomatic JavaScript is good. dalgard Apr 25 at 14:08@JuanMendes You "can't stand" those people? That seems...extreme. Dustin Wyatt May 8 at 17:19@DustinWyatt I don't think it's extreme, it causes unnecessary extra code just because people who don't want to understand the difference. Specially since always using === is not the always the right answer, there are cases when you do need == and you'd need a lot of extra code to make code comply. It's the nature of a dynamic language. I agree that that's a best practice in general, but I feel that it's generally OK for app-specific code. It'd be terrible for a library though. Avi Flax Feb 17 '11 at 20:57 @zachleat, that understandable in practice. But "foobar".contains("bar") would be a really useful exception to the rule. Feb 22 '11 at 9:50Eh, my preference would be to adapt my mental model to fit JavaScript and just use indexOf. It will make the code easier to understand for the next JavaScripter that comes along and has to read it. zachleat Mar 4 '11 at 16:03I agree with @Zachleat. This is a cool concept, but I also think it's important to write code that will be understandable long after you're gone. ("contains" is easy to understand, but it's easy to get carried away and write your own language in JavaScript. It's great as a Computer Science exercise but horrible in a production environment). jmort253 Apr 1 '11 at 15:42if (typeof String.prototype.contains === 'undefined') { String.prototype.contains = function(it) { return this.indexOf(it) != -1; }; } Pavel Hodek Jun 7 '11 at 15:24 I this it is preferrable to use this function if you are going to be using this kind of indexOf's frequently. @zachleat, I would disagree that using indexOf is more readable than contains. Contains describes what is happening, where to some indexOf() != -1 may not be so transparent. But to each their own, as long as you're consistant. smdrager Jul 11 '11 at 14:03 2 If you document your modifications and share them with the team then it's fine. It's simply a matter of discipline. If your team doesn't follow documentation then you'll have bigger issues. Bernard Sep 19 '11 at 18:183 if (typeof String.prototype.contains === 'undefined') { String.prototype.contains = function(it) { return this.indexOf(it) != -1; }; } else { alert ("Your code may now be broken! Check the definition of String.prototype.contains."); } Vinko Vrsalovic Jun 21 '12 at 12:57 5 Note that a String.prototype.contains method is in the process of being standardized, making this modification an even worse idea than it was when first answered. And it is precisely these sorts of modifications, made by unthinking web developers, that are making it such a pain to ship this new method in Firefox. (It's implemented in the latest nightly builds, and I think in Aurora builds. But it's unknown when it'll make it into a release, as there has been site breakage from the additio n that must be laboriously resolved first.) Jeff Walden Sep 23 '12 at 5:1@JeffWalden: I'm curious: what causes the breakage? Dan Tao Aug 30 '13 at 22:05 The problem is the method here isn't compatible with the built-in method. Any code that assumes the built-in method semantics will be exposed (ads on the page, WordPress plugins, anything else), will get this, and will get nonsense behavior. for a list of a bunch of sites that broke because MooTools 1.2.x implemented an incompatible String.prototype.contains (presumably by only conditionally patching, if there was no existing contains method), and the browser-provided version didn't behave like elements of the page expected. 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The using blah = Type stuff is basically syntactical sugar to allow mere mortals to ask the compiler to do substitutions during pre-parsing so you don't have to use 47 characters of dot-separated type specification for every variable in cases where you have name collisions. Using it in other situations is probably undesirable. Craig May 23 '13 at 23:2The same thing happens with bool and Boolean. Eogcloud Jun 28 '13 at 11:06Jegan, they are not different. They are exactly the same. String.GetType() == string.GetType() enorl76 Aug 15 '13 at 14:40@Jegan: you're executing an instance method on a type. It's typeof(string) == typeof(System.String). String only works if you have a using System; Snake Oct 31 '13 at 14:23Just another way of looking at this. string is a primitive defined by the language while System.String is a class defined by the BCL. They map to one another in .NET and the MS C# compiler. But... 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From JazmineBennett@mailxfer.etajog.com Wed May 28 12:27:41 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24541A065F for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 12:27:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.252 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.252 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DIET_1=0.001, MANGLED_OFF=2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YrE_Gsrbw5Ab for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 12:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailxfer.etajog.com (mailxfer.etajog.com [207.66.6.38]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C181A0678 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 12:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20140528060344.5026.68028--3333345234.Bennett@mx.mailxfer.etajog.com> From: Weight loss Diary To: Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 12:27:32 -0700 Subject: Fit Women use this... Rachaels Spring Weight Loss Diary Posted: 05-28-2014 02:03:44 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><> A recap of my show today on daytime TV, and the results will speak for themselves. I 'am proud to report that I did it. DocOz gave me some great advice and I lost 20lbs in 3 weeks. This is how I did it w/out gym time or starving: http://www.etajog.com/everyday/with/rachel/fatMelting.index Your Celebrity Chef, Rachael We hope that you enjoyed Rachels diary post. If you would like to stop receiving notifications in the future - write Update Notice Messages at 118 Kecks Lane Ruff Dale, PA 1 5 6 7 9 or http://www.etajog.com/i3nf.sjg3 The inheritance situation with enum is interesting. Can you point to documentation onto why alias must be used for enumerations? Or is this a known bug? JaredPar Oct 19 '08 at 2:00It's in section 14.1 of the spec (I can't quote here easily as it's too long). It doesn't explicitly say that you've got to use the alias, but the aliases are sort of treated as their own types. It's all a bit weird. Jon Skeet Oct 19 '08 at 6:34"the aliases are all to value types" is said twice about different sets of aliases. Can't be true both times %) Max Galkin May 11 '10 at 17:0@PiPeep what's more astounding than the large amount of upvotes is the staggering low amount of downvotes (consider the top 5 posts have a total of over 2000 upvotes, and yet only 1 downvote amongst them all). Especially when you factor in the notion that there's always "haters" in any community, I really find that +1 for mentioning the enum situation. That's the real answer I would consider it to be. The enum in c# are no t considered to be the integer(int) values like in c++. So you should either typecast it or convert it at declaration like @JonSkeet has mentioned it. Should you do this, then it has to be considered a 'type' . The keywords are alone considered which is in our case, a set of aliases of the original classes. King Dec 26 '11 at 19:41@JonSkeet I'm very late to the party, but sec 14.1 of C# version 4 spec does explicitly say you must use the alias: "enum-base" is defined as "integral-type", which is in turn (Appendix B, Grammar) is defined as the alias keywords. phoog Dec 29 '11 at 19:48@phoog: Where did I suggest otherwise? Jon Skeet Dec 29 '11 at 19:49our comment: "It doesn't explicitly say that you've got to use the alias, but the aliases are sort of treated as their own types. It's all a bit weird." phoog Dec 29 '11 at 19:53@phoog: Ah, sorry, I didn't realise you were referring to a comment. Yes, it's well-specified, I agree. Jon Skeet Dec 29 '11 at 19:56@pinusnegra: No, i t's not - at least not in the same way as the others. You can't declare a method as returning System.Void for example. You can't use System.Void directly in C# like that. Jon Skeet Jan 9 '12 at 23:18 @JonSkeet ahh, right :) I didn't check, just wondered, because I thought it's a keyword. Then what's the point of System.Void? Peter Porfy Jan 9 '12 at 23:34 @JonSkeet "decimal is a value type, but not a primitive type in the CLR" can you please explain this idea more? Hussein Zawawi Mar 29 '12 at 15:47 @HusseinX: Sure - look in the CLI spec and you'll see that there are no instructions for dealing with decimal. It's "just another value type" as far as the CLR is concerned. Jon Skeet Mar 29 '12 at 16:12 Another even-later-to-the-party thought: If you use the BCL type name (String), the compiler has to resolve it in the context of your using statements, to see whether you indeed meant System.String or perhaps AdvancedPhysics.String or RememberToBuyButter.TieAroundFinger.String. Lower-case string, on the other hand, is a keyword, and can only ever refer to System.String. Presumably this affects the compilation time, though I doubt the difference is observable. phoog Aug 30 '12 at 14:24 One interesting difference between string and String is that string' is a keyword in c#, so you can not use it as a variable name.For Ex: string but String String="hi";` is acceptable, as String is an identifire not a keyword. Sanjeev Rai Jun 5 '13 at 7:09@SanjeevRai: Yes. You can use @string to create an identifier which ends up as string though. It's a sort of escaping mechanism. Jon Skeet Jun 5 '13 at 7:18@PeterPorfy System.Void is used in reflection when inspecting methods without return values, for example in MethodInfo.ReturnParameter. Niels Keurentjes Jul 30 '13 at 10:04@NielsKeurentjes I got closer to the concept of void since by learning about the unit type of F#. Reflection also makes sense, thank you! 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Begin Alert: Special Enrollment for Spring 2014 Your Package is available to View Here: http://www.hesenergylop.com/policy/may/enroll/deadline.index Generated on May 29, 2014 - 250K available at confirmation End Alert ......................................... we hope you enjoyed this receiving this info. If you would like to stop further messages write Update Notice Messages at: 118 Kecks LaneRuff Dale, PA 15679 or visit http://www.hesenergylop.com/k3r/k4tsr3.gk5t6 Boy, I'm absolutely in love with Java, but this question comes up so often you'd think they'd just figure out that the chaining of streams is somewhat difficult and either make helpers to create various combinations or rethink the whole thing. Bill K Nov 21 '08 at 17:16You are right. I tend to use a set of helper classes that do it once for me, so I don't need keep referring to Google or even StackOverflow for the answer. In this case, I was away from my utility code and couldn't remember exactly how to do it. What better way to open my account on the site. Johnny Maelstrom Nov 26 '08 at 11:21Yeah, it really shouldn't require so much boilerplate to do something as simple as read strings from a stream. It's not that difficult, just annoying. Adam Jaskiewicz Dec 8 '08 at 20:19@Adam: It really depends on what kind of Stream you're working with. For instance, System.console().readLine() (new in Java 6) is pretty easy. Same with BufferedReader's readLine(). The only hard part is whe n you don't know how many characters you need to read. Powerlord Dec 8 '08 at 20:46The answers to this question only work if you want to read the stream's contents fully (until it is closed). Since that is not always intended (http requests with a keep-alive connection won't be closed), these method calls block (not giving you the contents). f1sh Jul 14 '10 at 13:32You need to know and specify the character encoding for the stream, or you will have character encoding bugs, since you will be using a randomly chosen encoding depending on which machine/ope system/platform or version thereof your code is run on. That is, do not use methods that depend on the platform default encoding. Christoffer Dec 17 '10 at 13:50 I don't really know Java, but "InputStream is " seems wrong. Hello71 Feb 3 '11 at 0:50 @Hello71: It is ok in Java, since the instanceof operator is spelled differently. Roland Illig Apr 26 '11 at 17:13 @Ronald: Erm... never mind that. I must have been partially asleep while writing that. Hello71 Apr 26 '11 at 20:03i found filenotfound exception while i try to read file nam hope IOUtils takes an optional Charset (or at least the name of the encodding to use). Best not to leave this kind of thing to chance :) Jon Skeet Nov 21 '08 at 17:10 Harry Lime Nov 21 '08 at 17:11Why copy the inputstream to a writer? Why not just use a reader? Or read all bytes and use new String(bytes, charset)? Bart van Heukelom Oct 11 '10 at 22:27 81 You really, really, really should be using IOUtnputStream, writer, encoding); unless you really, really, really know what you're doing, which people never do with character encoding related programming. Or in this case, IOUtils.toString(inputStream, encoding). Methods that use the platform default encoding are almost never correct to use, like every other method that gives different results depending on which machine/ope system/platform or version thereof it is run on. Christoffer Hammaec 17 '10 at 13:45 I think the below answer (IOUtils.toString()) is simpler since there is no need for a StringWriter Patrick Feb 1 '11 at 23:5I don't know that I'd say the default encoding is NEVER fine. On the other hand, I disagree with Guillaume also. In fact, it's not a matter of fine or not; it's a matter of which is CORRECT. In the situation where you want to take something that you know is encoded in the default encoding for the platform, then the default version is correct. However, I believe this is a very rare use case. The more normal case is that you need to specify what the encoding is, so specifying the encoding is correct. There is no optional case: either one or (more likely) the other is correc A quick but not clean solution. I would rather prefer a solution without adding additional libraries as mentioned in the post below MartinVonMartinsgrn Mar 1 '12 at 9:28Only works for closes streams, I believe. Thufir Aug 31 '13 at 2:01 i found filenotfound exception while i try to read file name with "_" file name(Russian language) i try with FileInputstream but it not cable to read this filename from sdcard. 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It's awesome when your managers say "Wow James! How did you get that done so fast?!". But when we have to spend time reinventing the wheel just because we have misplaced ideas about including a common, reusable, tried and tested utility, we're giving up time we could be spending furthering our project's goals. When we reinvent the wheel, we work twice as hard yet get to the finish line much later. Once we're at the finish line, there is no one there to congratulate us. When building a house, don't build the hammer too 0 '12 at Sorry, after re-reading my comment, it comes off a little arrogant. I just think it's important to have a good reason to avoid libraries an d that the reason is a valid one, which there very well could be :) an 20 '12 at 1:35isn't it better t ? Mar 28 '12 at 20:11 Yes, I guess the reader should be closed at the end. Paul deApr 20 '12 at 18:37 @jmort253 Many libraries are large, slow but powerful. However there are many chances that we need a small, fast one. In our product, I even replaced many JDK classes with our own implement. ay 9 '12 at 6:36 @coolcfan - I do agree with you on that point. Sometimes speed is of the utmost importance and is a hard requirement. Many times, good enough is good enough. I question how often we put effort into optimizing something that no one notices. The answer of whether the reward is greater than the cost is a decision not to be taken lightly. Thank you foVMs, databases and app servers on many operation systems so we have to think for the users using poor machines... And a string operation optimizing can improve thby 30~40%. And a fix: In our product, I even replaced should be 'we even replaced'. coMe same time, there is a real cost to using libraries (as the dependency proliferation in many apache java libraries shows). If this would be the only use of the library, it would be overkill to use the library. On the other hand, determining your own buffer size(s) you can tune your memory/processor usage balance. Paul ay 22 '12 at 9:16I'd like to know, what are reasonable values for the buffe r under which circumstances? T 24 at 14:09The best way to determine the buffer is to experiment. Reasonable sizes should be multiples of the block size, which for flash memory can be 128KB.Well, those particular seeds just so happen to work out perfectly. Random is not truly random, it is pseudorandom. Doorknob Mar 3 '13 at 4:41 It works, as others have said, because random isn't. To me, a more interesting question would be did the person that wrote that, brute force it, or is there an easy way to predict what random would generate for the next N values for a given seed. Brute forcing is easy and with modern hardware shouldn't take too long, so that was a viable way of doing it. Given that it is static, you could even easily distribute the search across a network. Mar 3 '13 at 5:31I wonder the purpose of n in for (int n = 0; ; n++). They could use for(;;) or while(true) instead Mar 3 '13 at think this might be converted from another language where the index of a char in a string has to be specified. This code is too awesome to be Java. (<- which is awesome, but not THAT awesome) Actually, I just think that if you wanted to do that kind of computation, you'd use C/C++ Ryan Amos Mar 3 '13 at 7:06 I'm going to try this... public static long getASeed(String str) { seeds: for (long l = Long.MIN_VALUE; l != Long.MAX_VALUE; l++) { Random r = new Random(l); for(int i = 0; i < str.length(); i++) { if(r.nextInt() + 'a' != str.charAt(i)) continue seeds; } return l; } throw new RuntimeException(); } Ryan Amos Mar 3 '13 at 7:06 @RyanAmos Did you get any results? What about considering relative positions? That is, you only need a sequence -3, 7, 0, 3, -15 (for "hello") after which you can just just pick a 'base character' that makes the first int 8 (which is presumably why this code uses a ` of all the possible things.) Jay Mar 3 '13 at 14:53 @Jay: running similar version now, trying to get , it gives result in a few seconds Denis Tulskiy Mar 3 '13 at 14:55 @Jay Unfortunately, I did not. I think the relative positions thing might have been a way a better way to do it. Or, maybe, run a PRNG until you get the desired sequence, then back up and take the seed that generated that Don't you mean in a state of tan or cos? IDWMaster Mar 3 '13 at 22:11In a truly random sequence every possible string will eventually appear. In a high quality pseudo random sequence on can reasonable expect every possible string of length (log_s(N) - n) bits (where N is the number of bits in the PRNGs internal state and n is a small number, lets pick 8 for convenience) to appear in the cycle. This code gets some help from the use of a freely chosen hardcoded start point (the value of the character which gets almost the whole 8 bits back. dmckee Mar 4 '13 at 0:13 sin is a pure function, so doesn't have "state" in the sense that rand does. dan0 4 Mar 4 '13 at 1:21This is not an answer, and you're overlooking the fact that an encoding "hello world" can be found in truly random numbers, as well as somewhere in the expansion of pi, if it is carried on long enough. This has nothing to do with pseudo-random not being truly random. Kaz Mar 4 '13 at 8:37 In fact, since there is a given statistical likelihood that "hello world" will occur a certain number of times in the period of a PRNG, you should be suspicious if an exhaustive search does not find it approximately that many times. Mar 4 '13 at 8:39You set same seed every time to its not random at all like other stated. ar 4 '13 at 9 the Java PRNG is just a linear congruential generator, so it is easy to predict the values it will output given a current seed/state. However, doing so basically amounts to reimplementing the PRNG yourself, so you'd do just as well to use brute force. Interestingly, you can also easily recover the state of the generator given two consecutive outpu t ints. This will allow you to predict all future outputs! Pretty handy. :) Sean Devlin Mar 4 '13 at 15:30winner of the weirdest way to print "hello world" Mar 4 '13 at 19:51 too bad those seeds don't work if ported to .Mar 4 '13 at 20:26 is this question going to be deleted now that it's marked as duplicate? I feel it has more thorough answers than original question. Denis Tulskiy Mar 5 '13 at 3:20 It's just exploiting a week random algorithm. Because it isn't really random. Luciano Mar 5 '13 at 20:4This is from a posting I wrote a couple of years ago Peter Lawrey Mar 5 '13 at 22:56 I brute forced it in less than a minute using Java. The reason for the n=0;;n++ loop is to allow a random string lC# prints "terkcq onbmmjujsrb" :) ArsenMkrt Mar 6 '13 at 10:22Just to be the good guy greg theaob Mar 6 '13 at 15:10So a more interesting application of this would be to write a program that could find the correct seed to produce a given desired output of any length. It would be the ultimate compression algorithm -- a single number that, when passed through the random number generator, would reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. JohnnyLambada Mar 6 '13 at 16:36@JohnnyLambada: My thoughts exactly! Aaron Blenkush Mar 6 '13 at 17:39@JohnnyLambada Yes, nice thought. Anyway you will not find a single long number that will code even a single work of shakespeare, because the limited set of numbers is not capable to code for unlimited set of texts. "From an information theoretic standpoint when dealing with true random data, the most efficient representation for the value of each bit is precisely one bit, not more and not less. Flagging any slightly compressible portion of the data stream will require more overhead bytes than will be gained in compression." Sad but true. patrickcraig.co.uk/other/compression.htm sulai Mar 7 '13 at 11:11 @sulai -- yes, but the example here disproves that doesn't it? We have a single 32 bit integer (-147909649) that codes the 40 bit ascii word "World". A more thorough search through randomspace might find the longer "Hello World" string -- especially if one includes an offset as part of their criteria. One could imagine a function such as StringBuilder.add(fromRan(randomAlgorithm,seed,offset,length)) as part of a decompression routine. As long as length is > the number of bits required to encode the parameters, we have a winner. The tough part is finding the parameters for a given string. JohnnyLambada Mar 7 '13 at 17:09 @JohnnyLambada Yes, this method does compress data. No, it does not compress data of any length, because the set of compressable texts is limited to the set of int values. More generally, once redundanties are compressed, you reach a point where data can not be compressed any more, no matter how hard you try. Truly random data, for example, can not be compressed. See this compression FAQ: faqs.org/faqs/compression-faq/part1/section-8.html sulai Mar 7 '13 at 18:47 Please note, a lower case word of length 5 contains about 5*log2(26)=23.5 bits of information. A 32 bit int would not yet compress it. A word of length 7 hast 32.9 bits of information, but I'm pretty sure that int can not code for all words that have 7 characters length. However it might work in some cases, and then actually compress data. But still, it can not compress purely random data. However, I'm not an expert about compression, too. :) Sorry for double commenting. sulai Mar 7 '13 at 19:03 6 This question has been closed twice so far first as not a real question and then again as exact duplicate. Then onwards, three close votes have been cast as off topic. No, it's a legitimate question. Keep it up. 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To stop further updates - Update Notice Messages 118 Kecks Lane-Ruff Dale, PA- one five six seven nine or visit http://www.jackohm.com/skef.srke33 @SnakeDoc These are security considerations and, as such, they all depend on the context. Not all applications use perfect security which does not exist, by the way. Passwords are just an example. And if, instead of passwords, you prefer testing equality on hashes of passwords, same situation : test considering case differences, for security. Nicolas Barbulesco Aug 24 '13 at 11:56 @NicolasBarbulesco I don't see where I said they were mutable. Anyways, I find using .equalsIgnoreCase() happens far more often in my work as I'm often dealing with a file (config file) or direct input that is given by users. If you are expecting a hash, then that would be the "good reason" to use .equals(). Otherwise, it would be silly to expect a string of some_value and have your prog break because user had caps lock on (doh!). It's context sensitive, but again, I find I end up using .equalsIgnoreCase() far more often, usually to protect runtime from bad users SnakeDoc Aug 28 '13 at 19:02 Another reason why the equality operator does not do what any average human would intuitively think it does is because java does not support operator overloading. Marquez Sep 18 '13 at 17:20 Small extra note: every time you use "myString" in java code, you are actually creating a private static String with an automatically generated name. Using "myString" twice in the same class should yield the same reference, as the compiler uses the same static class field. It's just syntactic sugar, similar to how an anonymous iterator is created for the construction for(Object o: collection) {} parasietje Sep 19 '13 at 9:49 String in java are immutable that means whenever you try to change/modify the string you get a new instance. You cannot change the original string. This has been done so that these string instances can be cached. A typical program contains a lot of string references and caching these instances can decrease the memory footprint and increase the performance of the program.When using == operator for string comparison you are not comparing the contents of the string but are actually comparing the memory address, if they are both equal it will return true and false otherwise. Whereas equals in string compares the string contents.So the question is if all the strings are cached in the system how come == returns false whereas equals return true. Well this is possible. If you make a new string like String str = new String("Test == is usefull for primitives than you should use instead of Objects when you can. David Do@Marquez - On the other hand, operator overloading (as in C++) is why the equality operator sometimes does not do what any average human would intuitively think it does. Concerning the operators in Java, at least you can just look at code and WYSIWYG. Ted HoRegarding concatenation of literals, will this happen at compile-time if String objects created from literals are unconditionally concatenated in a later line? hexafraction Nov 9 '13 at 11:57 @CMS: it'd be great if one of you examples used the lastindexof as used in mark-byers answer --I like your adding it to the class much better than a bare function, but there's no reason it should be slow on large strings. While starting at zeo might be considered "clever" by some, and thus smething to be avoided, I think it s simply a less well known aspect of the language. A comment would be sufficient to remove any confusion for those not as familiar with the language. jmoreno you should really delete the .indexOf variant. there's absolutely no reason to use it instead of the .slice variant and people might just copy that one since it's on top, thus the collective processing power of the entire world will decrease because of this inefficiency -1 for the reason given by Claudiu; having a trail of modifications labelled 'Edit' just makes it more difficult to take in the content on first read-through. Why not delete your initial, inferior implementation and rewrite the answer to inclu One minor edit, == is not "much cheaper" than .equals, because the first statement in String.equals reads: if (this == anObject) { return true; }. Torque @HenrikPaul Yes, thats the Java terminology. 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Vulcan Mar 3 '13 at 4:50 @Vulcan - the javadoc says that the seed is 48 bits And besides, the actual seeds are 32 bit values. Stephen C Maach element of the random number sequence is taken modulo 27, and there are 6 elements in each o and "world\0". If you assumed a truly random generator, the odds would be 1 in 27^6 (387,420,489) of getting the sequence you were looking for -- so it's pretty impressive but not quite mind-blowing! Russell Borogove Mar 3 '13 at 7:48This reminds me of Jake in T10:03 @RussellBorogove: But with those odds, and 2^64 possible seeds, there are an expecteed values that give that sequence. It's just a matter of finding one. dan04 Mar 3 I wasn't quite willing to make that estimate; depending on the implementation of the PRNG, the size of the seed word might not equal the size of the state, and sequence paths might not be evenly distributed. But still, the odds are definitely good, and if you couldn't find a pair you could try again with different casing ("Hello" "World"), or using 122-k instead of 96+k, or... Russell Borogove Mar 3 '13 at 18:15This is for testing purposes as far as I know. hree It's almost always very important that a random number generator can be predictable when needed, as it's very hard to test things otherwise, as running the same code twice can produce different results. Using seeds in PRNGs means you can use a specific seed when testing (or at least report the seed so a result can be reproduced), and then later you can use a seed which will change - e.g. new Random() uses a seed taken from the current time. DarkOtter Mar 4 '13 at 8:55@RussellBorogove you make me know i'm dumber kingdango 0:42Note that the javadoc does not specify the exact details of the implementation. Hence you cannot rely on this being portable across JVM implementations. n Ravn Andersen Aug 26 '13 at avnAndersen The Javadoc specifies that "particular algorithms are specified for the class RandomJava implementations must use all the algorithms shown here for the class Random, for the sake of absolute portability of Java code." Vulcan Aug 27 '13 at 3:05 notice that the generated seeds are all very close to Long.MAX_VALUE. It'd be interesting to find out how many different seeds could generate each string, but I have nowhere near the processing capability to achieve that in a reasonable, timely fashion. VulcanWhy does it have to be .nextInt(27) ? What is so special about the number 27? I thought if you just called nextInt(), you'd get a bigger chance of finding the seed? Plus, why are you only checking the first x numbers of a sequence (where x == goal.length())? One Two Three M@OneTwoThree nextInt(27) means within the range [0, 26]. at 21:48@Vulcan Most seeds are very close to the maximum value, just like if you select random numbers between 1 and 1000, most numbers you end up picking will have three digits. It's not surprising, when you think about it :) @Vulcan In fact if you do the math you'll see they are about as close to the maximum value as to zero (I suppose the seed is being interpreted as an unsigned in the generation code). But because the number of digits grow only logarithmically with the actual value, the number looks really close when it really isn't. Thomas Mar 3 '13 @Vulcan Actually it's "close" tIf you start from zero, you'll get these: Alvin Wong Mar 4 '13 at 7:02 @Vulcan the seed is actually only 48bit long. And,s not cryptography. If you use a few cleaver tricks, you can calculate all the seeds on home computer within minutes.r 4 '13 at 7:11 "1" and "2" appear much more frequently, for a similar reason: to go from 9 to 10 takes a much smaller factor than from 10 to 20. In this case, to go from 0 to int.max/10 takes much less than to go fromWhy did you use base? : to have a larger range of possible values Great answer. And for bonus points, can you find a seed that will initialize a Random which will produce the sequence of 4 seeds required for initialization of the final randoms? 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t and you are probably right. This question is ancient and I need to read over it again, but I think I'll change the accepted answe
Why not culture.CompareInfo.IndexOf(paragraph, word, CompareOptions.IgnoreCase) >= 0? That uses the right culture and is case-insensitive, it doesn't allocate temporary lowercase strings, and it avoids the question of whether converting to lowercase and comparing is always the same as a case-insensitive comparison. Quartermeister Mar 18 '13 at 15:3
@Quartermeister that'll work. I tried to find out how CompareInfo.IndexOf defines case-insensitive comparison, but the method simply wraps InternalFindNLSStringEx which is undocumented. Colonel Panic Mar 18 '13 at 15:41
This solution also needlessly pollutes the heap by allocating memory for what should be a searching function JaredPar Mar 18 '13 at 16:09
Comparing with ToLower() will give different results from a case-insensitive IndexOf when two different letters have the same lowercase letter. For example, calling ToLower() on either U+0398 "Greek Capital Letter Theta" or U+03F4 "Greek Capital Letter Theta Symbol" results in U+03B8, "Greek Small Letter Theta", but the capital letters are considered different. Both solutions consider lowercase letters with the same capital letter different, such as U+0073 "Latin Small Letter S" and U+017F There is MSDN documentation for FindNLSStringEx, and that probably applies to InternalFindNLSStringEx. The flag is NORM_IGNORECASE, which "ignores any tertiary distinction, whether or not it is actually linguistic case", but I don't know enough about NLS to know what a "tertiary distinction" is. Quartermeister Mar 18 'To make this answer a little more complete, considering you want to do web mining: If you don't know the language of a pa ge a-priori, you can quite easily figure out with a simple unigram-based language model. The only problem is getting the data for enough different languages - but probably there are libraries out there that can predict a page's language - i would guess this is a common enough problem. kutschkem Mar@Quartermeister - tertiary distinction is case distinction. Could be linguistic (turkish i -> ) or not (ascii i -> I). A definition can be found on oracle site:
@Quartermeister - and BTW, I believe .NET 2 and .NET4 behave differently on this as .NET 4 always uses NORM_LINGUISTIC_CASING while .NET 2 did not (this flags has appeared with Windows Vista). Simon Mourier Mar 23 '13 at 8:13
Yes, you are very right about Turkish. => I, i => Hooijdonk Apr 9 '13 at 13:58
Should you move method with CompareOptions.IgnoreCase to be first, because .would recommend, in the same spirit, adding CompareOptions.IgnoreKanaType and CompareOptions.IgnoreWidth. emodendroket Apr 29 at 14:56
+1 for completeness - answers with a proper form of explanation are the only way users will actually learn from SO SemiDemented May 5 at 12:57

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The pics leaked to the media explain it all We hope that you enjoyed this celeb update from Update Notice Messages to stop further updates - write - one one eight- Kecks Lane-Ruff Dale, PA 15679 or http://www.northhoney.com/lwkg.sjgr @Simon It's not stated that the string is necessarily going to be output as part of a HTML document - CSS is only going to be of use if it is. Adam HeptonAdam, true, but I'd guess that over 95% of the Javascript out there is used with HTML & CSS. Unfortunately, the "capitalize" statement actually capitalizes every word, so you'd still need JS to capitalize only the first letter of the string. @Simon, the text-transform capitalizes first letter of every word and this is what Robert wants DDK Jun Incorrect, Dinesh. He said the first character of the stringWhat's funny is that Ryan didn't help answer @Robert Willis's question. but he answered mine. SoreThumb Nov 5 This answer, despite having a ridiculous number of upvotes, is just wrong, as it will capitalize the first letter of every word. @Ryan, you'll earn a Disciplined badge if you delete it. Please do so. Dan Dascalescu Agree with @DanDascalescu - Ryan's answer is completely wrong. To capitalise the first letter you could u se the first letter selector: p.capitalize :first-letter {text-transform: capitalize;} Apparently Safari struggles with this, but haven't looked into it. Matt Parkins The question specifies 'JavaScript'. A CSS solution doesn't provide this. Holf Mar 22 '13 at 18:01 It's true that the question asks for JavaScript and only the first letter of the string, but the asker of the question isn't the only one here looking for an answer. It has obviously turned out to be a good answer for many people, resulting in upvotes. I certainly don't think it should be deleted. Ali G Apr 13 '13 at 8:54It's now javascript: $('.capitalize').css('text-transform', 'capitalize') Ali GApr 13 '13 at 8:58 The question specifies JavaScript. Anybody looking for a CSS based solution may not find this answer because they won't be searching for it. As it is, this is a useful bit of information that users might stumble across if they happen to be looking for a JavaScript solution. Regardless, this will capitalise all words, not the first letter of the string. Ryan has a good answer to a different question. He should delete this answer, create the right question, and then answer it there, if he wants to benefit the community. The points loss wouldn't be very conducive to doing this, I'll admit. :-) big LOL for this Juan Jul 15 '13 at 20:49 So just wrap the tag around the single world you want capitalized Nick Manning Oct 4 '13 at 5:40 This capitalizes every word's first letter. MKN Web SolutionsI think, this answer is wrong, but when I searched answer to similar problem, I found this answer and it perfectly fits to my problem. So, thanks. VikciaR This answer is bad since it is not JavaScript. Kremniels: You're correct, but this edit changes the meaning of the post too much. Better post it as a separate answer. Or rather dowubstr() may not be marked as deprecated by any popular ECMAScript implementation (I doubt it's not going to disappear anytime soon), but it's not part of the ECMAScript spec. The 3rd edition of the spec mentions it in the non-normative annex in order to "suggests uniform semantics for such properties without making the properties or their semantics part of this @SnakeDoc the "confusing" problem is caused by another lack/feature of java: java does not support pointer. == is straighter than .equals(), i will prefer using == to compare objects if java support overriding operator == : "bool My String::operator == (const char *sAnotherString) {return strcmp(this.m_String, sAnotherString);}". 2 other lack of java (compared to C++): (a) does not support structure data. (b) does not support unsigned integers. Anyways, it is context dependent of course. My general rule remains: use .equalsIgnoreCase() unless you have a good reason (being case matters or such). Far too many times i've been burned by a user typing in something like SOMESTRING instead of and expected somestring and then report program is busted (caps lock on or something). Just to clarify for everyone, .equals() is necessary in Java as it's comparing the Value of two objects, not the object references. == would compare the references (think pointers for simplicity). You can use == to compare two objects, but it won't give you the expected result if the references aren't the same. It may work in some cases, such as with Strings, but isn't reliable. The JVM does some magic when you create a new string with the s ame value as another in memory, it basically just creates a new reference to the same memory location in some cases. Just use .equals Java does use pointers, but they are abstracted away to Object References, it was a design decision and provides a whole level of program safety that you cannot always guarantee with pointers, even with a high level of understanding of pointers and pointer arithmetic. Structured Data (Struct) I think is coming in Java8 or may have been pushed back to Java9. Anyways, java is java, with it's lumps and it's pearls. :/ Also note that .equals() does generally the same as ==, String is one of few exceptions, if you will want to compare your own classes you will need to redefine (override) the .equals() method. @kajacx good point +1, I don't think anyone mentioned that yet. 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