From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Thu Jul 07 20:40:42 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dqgv0-0004jH-Fh; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:40:42 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA19822; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j680eDT13326; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:37:29 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j680bFx13041 for pwg-announce-out; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:37:15 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: To: "Gail Giansiracusa" Cc: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> PWG Chairman Nomination MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V70_06072005NP June 07, 2005 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:37:31 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.53HF546 | May 23, 2005) at 07/07/2005 18:37:32, Serialize complete at 07/07/2005 18:37:32 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org
I accept Gail's nomination and would be honored to continue serving the PWG in the capacity of Chairman. At the same time, I continue to encourage additional nominees for all officer positions (Chairman, Vice Chairman, Secretary).  Our current 2 year terms conclude in September which means we need to complete elections by August 31, 2005. Elections will be conducted via e-mail vote among PWG members. I suggest we establish Wednesday - Aug 10 - as the last day to accept nominations, and that we formally initiate voting directly following the SC meeting on August 11. This will give just inside of 3 weeks to complete the voting process.

I will send a follow-up message listing other nominees as soon as I have confirmation of their acceptance.

Nominations close - August 10
Voting - August 11 - August 31
New term begins September 1
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Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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"Gail Giansiracusa" <ggiansiracusa@peerless.com>

07/07/2005 02:30 PM

To
Harry Lewis/Boulder/IBM@IBMUS, <pwg@pwg.org>
cc
Subject
RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> URGENT - PWG Chairman Nominations





I nominate Harry for another term of Chair.  (Is it too late?)
 
 
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From:
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Sent:
Saturday, June 04, 2005 11:59 PM
To:
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Subject:
PWG-ANNOUNCE> URGENT - PWG Chairman Nominations

 

I labeled this reminder URGENT because we are just over a month away from our July Plenary where we will review nominations and begin elections for new PWG officers. The 2 year term for current officers will expire in September. Three positions will be opening - Chairman, Vice Chairman and Secretary. We welcome nominations for any of the 3 positions but, while we do have several people willing to accept VC and Secretary roles, we are currently lacking a nominee for Chairman.  


The PWG is entering a very exciting and active phase which will require an energetic leader with vision. This role will require commitment but I am certain, in return, you will receive a great number of very rewarding experiences.


Some of the more recent highlights for the PWG include:


1. Apple and Microsoft join the PWG who, together with IBM, represent print and printer management components of 5 major OS platforms.

2. Linux is represented via scheduled, periodic joint meetings with the Free Standards Group
3. Dell joined the PWG as a major supplier of printers and printing systems who is interested in open standards

4. The PWG Common Semantic Model has been established and acknowledged by a wide ranging variety of segment specific print standards organizations

5. Version 2 of Printer MIB has reached IETF Standards Track status (RFC 3805)

6. Discussions are being held with the DMTF regarding possible collaboration to update the CIM printer model with PWG semantics

7. The PWG is expanding into broader areas of "imaging systems" management

 a. With the definition of a complete set of Counters for remote management of Imaging Services (such as Production and Enterprise Print, Scan, Copy, Fax)

 b. With the definition of a web service method for implementing inter-enterprise remote management for Output Management Services

 c. With an initial BOF, in Japan, on networked projector management standards which is leading to a new project definition and solicitation of projector vendors


Some additional areas under consideration are


8. Efficiency study of standards activities in the print and imaging industry including models, dictionaries, protocols (print, finishing, job ticket, management, accounting) with recommendations for harmony

9. Possible alliance with high-end production print standards organizations for Semantic Model alignment and expansion into areas such as mail piece and remote finishing.


Many of you have demonstrated your support for open standards and the positive effect they have had on the printer industry with your contributions in working groups, on conference calls, e-mail discussions and face to face meetings. This has allowed the PWG to provide our service to the industry in an exemplary manner while maintaining our tradition as a low cost, low overhead organization. The PWG is in need of a new Chairman to help keep this tradition moving forward. Please indicate your support by sending your nomination to
pwg@pwg.org or you can send your nomination directly to me by simply replying to this message.

PLEASE SEND YOUR NOMINATION BY FRIDAY, JULY 1. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU!

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Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Jul 12 12:47:20 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DsNui-0002RF-J3; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:47:20 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15027; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6CGkdd18334; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:41:32 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6CGfOP18014 for pwg-announce-out; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:41:24 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C58700.9233CD26" Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Meeting schedule Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:41:27 -0700 Message-ID: <02954887D466F24D9F3FC9F47466DEF00542DB7F@cdaexchange.sc.rd.canon.com> Thread-Topic: Meeting schedule Thread-Index: AcWHAIycPmAvlfeXTbaWuSTExzKrTw== From: "Farrell, Lee" To: Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C58700.9233CD26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The current [target] schedule for the PWG meeting topics follows: Wed 09:00-10:00 IPP MailTo Last Call 10:00-12:00 Projector/Display Mgt BOF 12:00-01:30 Lunch 01:30-03:00 PWG/FSG Joint Plenary 03:00-04:30 DMTF CIM/CORE Alliance Thurs 09:00-12:00 WIMS/Semantic Model=20 "after lunch" Port Mon MIB Prototype Testing Fri 09:00-01:00 Port Mon MIB=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C58700.9233CD26 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Meeting schedule

The current [target] schedule for the = PWG meeting topics follows:

    Wed
    09:00-10:00  IPP MailTo Last Call
    10:00-12:00  Projector/Display Mgt BOF
    12:00-01:30  Lunch
    01:30-03:00  PWG/FSG Joint Plenary
    03:00-04:30  DMTF CIM/CORE Alliance

    Thurs
    09:00-12:00  WIMS/Semantic Model
    “after lunch”  Port Mon MIB Prototype Testing

    Fri
    09:00-01:00  Port Mon MIB


------_=_NextPart_001_01C58700.9233CD26-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Jul 12 13:11:19 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DsOHt-0004Sg-FH; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:11:19 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16863; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6CH9h520301; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:05:53 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6CH5iA19861 for pwg-announce-out; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:05:44 -0400 (EDT) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Call in information for Cupertino meetings MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V70_06072005NP June 07, 2005 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:05:56 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.53HF546 | May 23, 2005) at 07/12/2005 11:05:57, Serialize complete at 07/12/2005 11:05:57 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005DE7568725703C_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005DE7568725703C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you were not able to make the f2f meeting in Cupertino this week,=20 please consider joining via phone bridge. Below are dial-in instructions=20 and anticipated agenda. Note that agenda may be flexible according to the=20 needs of those physically present in Cupertino although it is expected to=20 be adhered to fairly closely. The phone bridge will remain up through most = of the agenda (except lunch) so you may dial in as convenient. Please=20 provide the curtsey of announcing yourself when you join and before you=20 drop off.=20 Dial In: 1-866-365-4406 Toll #: 1-303-248-9655 Passcode: 2635888# Wed 09:00-10:00 IPP MailTo Last Call 10:00-12:00 Projector/Display Mgt BOF 12:00-01:30 Lunch (NO PHONE BRIDGE) 01:30-03:00 PWG/FSG Joint Plenary 03:00-04:30 DMTF CIM/CORE Alliance=20 Thurs 09:00-12:00 WIMS/Semantic Model ?after lunch? Port Mon MIB Prototype Testing (NO PHONE BRIDGE) Fri 09:00-01:00 Port Mon MIB =20 ----------------------------------------------=20 Harry Lewis=20 IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems=20 http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ----------------------------------------------=20 --=_alternative 005DE7568725703C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you were not able to make the f2f meeting in Cupertino this week, please consider joining via phone bridge. Below are dial-in instructions and anticipated agenda. Note that agenda may be flexible according to the needs of those physically present in Cuper= tino although it is expected to be adhered to fairly closely. The phone bridge will remain up through most of the agenda (except lunch) so you may dial in as convenient. Please provide the curtsey of announcing yourself when you join and before you drop off.

Dial In: 1-866-365-4406
Toll #: 1-303-248-9655
Passcode: 2635888#

Wed
09:00-10:00  IPP MailTo Last Call
10:00-12:00  Projector/Display Mgt BOF
12:00-01:30  Lunch (NO PHONE BRIDGE)
01:30-03:00  PWG/FSG Joint Plenary
03:00-04:30  DMTF CIM/CORE Alliance

Thurs
09:00-12:00  WIMS/Semantic Model
“after lunch”  Port Mon MIB Prototype Testing
(NO PHONE BRIDGE)

Fri
09:00-01:00  Port Mon MIB
&n= bsp;
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Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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--=_alternative 005DE7568725703C_=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Jul 12 22:14:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DsWl1-0005Bl-22; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:13:55 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA17263; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6D2D8h28871; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:10:01 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6D29lw28618 for pwg-announce-out; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:09:47 -0400 (EDT) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> July 2005 WIMS Plenary Slides MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 From: thrasher@lexmark.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:10:00 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 07/12/2005 10:10:01 PM, Serialize complete at 07/12/2005 10:10:01 PM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 000BE6028525703D_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 000BE6028525703D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here are the latest versions of the PWG Plenary presentation slides for WIMS. These are "slightly" updated from the originally distributed ppt file. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/WIMSPlenaryStatusSlides_20050712.ppt ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/WIMSPlenaryStatusSlides_20050712.pdf Jerry Thrasher --=_alternative 000BE6028525703D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Here are the latest versions of the PWG Plenary presentation slides for WIMS.
These are "slightly" updated from the originally distributed ppt file.

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/WIMSPlenaryStatusSlides_20050712.ppt
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/WIMSPlenaryStatusSlides_20050712.pdf

Jerry Thrasher

--=_alternative 000BE6028525703D_=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Jul 13 02:00:52 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DsaIb-0006jk-Uu; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 02:00:52 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA00097; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 02:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6D60JM03833; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 02:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:58:59 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6D5wpk03583 for pwg-announce-out; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:58:52 -0400 (EDT) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> July Plenary slides posted MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V70_06072005NP June 07, 2005 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:59:23 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.53HF546 | May 23, 2005) at 07/12/2005 23:59:05, Serialize complete at 07/12/2005 23:59:05 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0020DFF38725703D_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0020DFF38725703D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" These are the slides we will use for the Plenary discussion Wednesday at 1:30 PDT. Note, the final version of these slides may vary slightly from these, initially posted, as one or two of the slides are designed to add status as it is provided by w/g Chairs. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/Plenary/PWGPlenaryJuly2005.pdf If you are not at Cupertino and want to dial-in to the Plenary you may do so Dial In: 1-866-365-4406 Toll #: 1-303-248-9655 Passcode: 2635888# ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 0020DFF38725703D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
These are the slides we will use for the Plenary discussion Wednesday at 1:30 PDT.
Note, the final version of these slides may vary slightly from these, initially posted, as one or two of the slides are designed to add status as it is provided by w/g Chairs.

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/Plenary/PWGPlenaryJuly2005.pdf

If you are not at Cupertino and want to dial-in to the Plenary you may do so
Dial In: 1-866-365-4406
Toll #: 1-303-248-9655
Passcode: 2635888#
----------------------------------------------
Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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20:52:50 -0400 (EDT) From: wamwagner@comcast.net To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> WIMS> CIM - Finding a phone conference slot Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:53:07 +0000 Message-Id: <071420050053.20207.42D5B7730005685700004EEF22007510909D0A02090E99030E99@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: d2Ftd2FnbmVyQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20207_1121302387_0" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20207_1121302387_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To those interested in participating in the DMTF CIM/PWG realignment activity: Because many of the current WIMS participants will be available in the Wednesday 12 noon to 1PM EDT timeslot, which has been the current time slot for WIMS teleconferences, we will have the kickoff teleconference for the CIM realignment activity this comming Wednesday 20 July, at 12 noon EDT. With your inputs per Harry's note, we can establish a separate time slots for CIM and older WIMS teleconferences. Bill Wagner -------------- Original message -------------- The current proposal for a new CIM teleconference slot is Wednesday 2pm Eastern (1 hr)... every week or every other week. Please indicate if you will plan to participate or if there is a time that works better with you. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20207_1121302387_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

To those interested in participating in the DMTF CIM/PWG realignment activity:
 
Because  many of the current WIMS participants  will be available in the Wednesday 12 noon to 1PM EDT timeslot, which has been the current time slot for WIMS teleconferences, we will have the kickoff teleconference for the CIM realignment activity this comming Wednesday 20 July, at 12 noon EDT. With your inputs per Harry's note, we can establish a separate time  slots for CIM and older WIMS teleconferences.
 
Bill Wagner
 
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The current proposal for a new CIM teleconference slot is Wednesday 2pm Eastern (1 hr)... every week or every other week. Please indicate if you will plan to participate or if there is a time that works better with you.
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Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
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--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20207_1121302387_0-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Jul 13 22:20:52 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DstLI-0005SY-0W for ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:20:52 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA02898 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:20:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6E2KQH23418 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:20:04 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6E2JAs23288 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sharplabs.com (keymaster.sharplabs.com [216.65.151.107]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id j6E2J3423284 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com (admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com [172.29.225.253]) by sharplabs.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j6E2JNSI019097 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:20:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'ipp@pwg.org'" Subject: IPP> IPP Mailto last call comments Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:20:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi folks, Wednesday (13 July 2005) Here are my proposed edits for IPP Mailto last call comments. In a separate note, I'll forward the 2003 IESG last call comments on IPP Notifications in general (applies to all the specs). I'm still looking for Ned Freed's individual comments on IPP Mailto (Ned wrote the MIME RFCs and was our IPP IETF Application Area Director at the time). Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [global edits to all sections] * Replace 'domain.com' with 'example.com'. * Replace 'RFC 1521' or '[RFC1521]' inline with '[RFC2045]' (obsoletes). * Replace 'RFC 2822' inline with '[RFC2822]. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [edits to section 'Contact Info' in boilerplate] * Delete errroneous reference to 'additional media names'??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [edits to section 4 'General Information'] [table 1 - question 9] * Append to end of Delivery Method Realization text (see section 10 'Security Considerations') ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [edits to section 5.2.1 'notify-recipient-uri (uri)'] [para 1] * Append this new last sentence: The syntax and security considerations for the 'mailto' URL scheme are normatively defined in [RFC2368] (which is currently under revision in [RFC2368bis]). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [edits to section 10 'Security Considerations'] [para 2] * Replace references to [ipp-not-req] or [ipp-req] with [RFC3997]. [para 5 and 6] * Append two new paragraphs (per IESG members and Ned Freed comments): A Printer that supports this Delivery Method SHOULD implement configurable security policies to address issues raised in section 7 of [RFC2821], section 5 of [RFC2822], and section 7 of [RFC2368], for example: (a) Constraining the value of "notify-recipient-uri" to use the same domain as the Subscribing Client (value of "notify-user-data"); (b) Restricting the value of "notify-recipient-uri" to disallow delivery to distribution lists (i.e., mail reflectors). A Printer that supports this Delivery Method SHOULD default to a conservative security policy (e.g., same domain restriction). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [edits to section 11.1 'Normative References'] * In [RFC2565] and [RFC2910], replace 'R. Tuner' with 'R. Turner'. * Add normative reference to [RFC2045] - see below [RFC2045] - move from 'Informative References' for sections 6.1.6, 6.1.7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [additions to section 11.2 'Informative References'] * Delete informative reference to [RFC2045] - see above * Delete informative reference to [RFC2046] - unused in specification * Add informative reference to [RFC2368bis] for section 4 [RFC2368bis] M. Duerst, L. Masinter, "The mailto URI scheme", (work-in-progress). * Add informative reference to [RFC3997] for section 10 [RFC3997] T. Hastings, R. K. deBry, H. Lewis, "Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): Requirements for IPP Notifications", RFC 3997, March 2005. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Jul 13 23:37:38 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DsuXa-0006Ok-LM; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:37:38 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA06792; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6E3b2X25653; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:33:20 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6E3XCr25404 for pwg-announce-out; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:33:12 -0400 (EDT) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> July 2005 WIMS Meeting Slides MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 From: thrasher@lexmark.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:33:28 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 07/13/2005 11:33:30 PM, Serialize complete at 07/13/2005 11:33:30 PM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00138AE08525703E_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00138AE08525703E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here are the latest versions of the WIMS meeting slides that cover the Counter Spec/MIB last call comments. Nothing has changed but the filename from those sent out earlier. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/WIMS_PresentationA_20050713.ppt ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/WIMS_PresentationA_20050713.pdf Jerry Thrasher --=_alternative 00138AE08525703E_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Here are the latest versions of the WIMS meeting slides that cover the Counter Spec/MIB last
call comments.
Nothing has changed but the filename from those sent out earlier.

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/WIMS_PresentationA_20050713.ppt
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/WIMS_PresentationA_20050713.pdf

Jerry Thrasher


--=_alternative 00138AE08525703E_=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Fri Jul 15 17:47:38 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DtY1x-000128-VG; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:47:38 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA27386; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6FLkoa20807; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:44:16 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6FLi8520565 for pwg-announce-out; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'pwg-announce@pwg.org'" Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> FW: [Printing-sc] FSG/OpenPrinting Approves PAPI Version 1.0 Spec ification Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:45:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C58986.255D67FA" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C58986.255D67FA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C58986.255D67FA" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C58986.255D67FA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Hi, Many thanks to Norm Jacobs, Alan Hlava, and Michael Sweet for a fine piece of work, now implemented on multiple operating systems: Free Standards Group / Open Printing PAPI/1.0 Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com -----Original Message----- From: printing-sc-bounces@base3.freestandards.org [mailto:printing-sc-bounces@base3.freestandards.org]On Behalf Of Petrie, Glen Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:07 PM To: 'printing-sc@base3.freestandards.org'; printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org; 'Discussion for Spool/Job/Queue API subgroup'; printing-announce@base3.freestandards.org Subject: [Printing-sc] FSG/OpenPrinting Approves PAPI Version 1.0 Specification All, I am please to announce the approval by the FSG/OpenPrinting Steering Committee of the Print Application Programming Interface (PAPI) Version 1.0 on July 15, 2005 The latest Release Request is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/spool/Release-Request-PAPI-V1.00/papi-v1.0-rel ease-request-v1.03-2005-07-15.sxw ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/spool/Release-Request-PAPI-V1.00/papi-v1.0-rel ease-request-v1.03-2005-07-15.pdf The Print Application Programming Interface (PAPI) Version 1.0 Specification is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/spool/papi-v1.0-2005-07-15.pdf ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/spool/papi-v1.0-2005-07-15.sxw Final approval is now needed by the FSG/Board for final disposition. BM__MailAutoSigRgds, Glen W. Petrie Epson Imaging Technology Center 150 River Oaks Parkway, Suite 200 San Jose, CA, 95134 Voice: 408.576.4131 Fax: 408.474.0511 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C58986.255D67FA Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" FSG/OpenPrinting Approves PAPI Version 1.0 Specification
Hi,
 
Many thanks to Norm Jacobs, Alan Hlava, and Michael Sweet for a fine piece of work,
now implemented on multiple operating systems:
 
    Free Standards Group / Open Printing PAPI/1.0
 
Cheers,
- Ira
 

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: printing-sc-bounces@base3.freestandards.org [mailto:printing-sc-bounces@base3.freestandards.org]On Behalf Of Petrie, Glen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:07 PM
To: 'printing-sc@base3.freestandards.org'; printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org; 'Discussion for Spool/Job/Queue API subgroup'; printing-announce@base3.freestandards.org
Subject: [Printing-sc] FSG/OpenPrinting Approves PAPI Version 1.0 Specification

All,

I am please to announce the approval by the FSG/OpenPrinting Steering Committee of the

      Print Application Programming Interface (PAPI) Version 1.0 on July 15, 2005


The latest Release Request is located at:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/spool/Release-Request-PAPI-V1.00/papi-v1.0-release-request-v1.03-2005-07-15.sxw

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/spool/Release-Request-PAPI-V1.00/papi-v1.0-release-request-v1.03-2005-07-15.pdf

The Print Application Programming Interface (PAPI) Version 1.0 Specification is located at:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/spool/papi-v1.0-2005-07-15.pdf

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/spool/papi-v1.0-2005-07-15.sxw

Final approval is now needed by the FSG/Board for final disposition.


Rgds,
Glen W. Petrie
Epson Imaging Technology Center
150 River Oaks Parkway, Suite 200
San Jose, CA, 95134
Voice: 408.576.4131  Fax: 408.474.0511

------_=_NextPart_001_01C58986.255D67FA-- ------_=_NextPart_000_01C58986.255D67FA Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT08053.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT08053.txt" _______________________________________________ Printing-sc mailing list Printing-sc@mail.freestandards.org http://mail.freestandards.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-sc ------_=_NextPart_000_01C58986.255D67FA-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Sat Jul 16 14:07:25 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dtr4P-00038v-TL; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:07:25 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA17102; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:07:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6GGhJh01242; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:41:59 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6GGfoP01008 for pwg-announce-out; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'pwg-announce@pwg.org'" Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> FW: [Printing-sc] FSG/OpenPrinting Approves JTAPI Version 1.0 Spe cification Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:42:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org Hi folks, Many thanks to Claudia Alimpich (Job Ticket WG chair), Glen Petrie, Till Kamppeter, and Tom Hastings for their years of patient work on this important specification: Free Standards Group / Open Printing Job Ticket API/1.0 The JTAPI harmonizes CIP4 JDF and PWG Semantic Model job tickets and describes a detailed abstract object model for job tickets and a powerful API for reading, editing, and writing job tickets. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com -----Original Message----- From: printing-sc-bounces@base3.freestandards.org [mailto:printing-sc-bounces@base3.freestandards.org]On Behalf Of Norm Jacobs Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 12:58 AM To: printing-jobticket@base3.freestandards.org Cc: printing-announce@freestandards.org; printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org; printing-sc@base3.freestandards.org Subject: [Printing-sc] FSG/OpenPrinting Approves JTAPI Version 1.0 Specification All, I am please to announce the approval by the FSG/OpenPrinting Steering Committee of the Job Ticket Application Programming interface (JTAPI) Version 1.0 at the July 14, 2005 meeting. The latest Release Request is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/jobticket/Release_Request/JTAPI-Release-Reques t-V0102-2005-0715.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/jobticket/Release_Request/JTAPI-Release-Reques t-V0102-2005-0715.pdf The Job Ticket Application Programming interface (JTAPI) Version 1.0 Specification is located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/jobticket/JTAPI_Spec/fsg-openprinting-job-tick et-api-v0100-20050315.doc ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/fsg/jobticket/JTAPI_Spec/fsg-openprinting-job-tick et-api-v0100-20050315.pdf Final approval is now needed by the FSG/Board for final disposition. -Norm _______________________________________________ Printing-sc mailing list Printing-sc@mail.freestandards.org http://mail.freestandards.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-sc From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Jul 19 12:49:07 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DuvHH-0003Ue-PI; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:49:07 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12844; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6JGm6E10621; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:37:15 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6JGZV310260 for pwg-announce-out; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:35:31 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: i="3.94,208,1118034000"; d="scan'208,217"; a="287979644:sNHT43263952" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C58C7F.B7F3A7B2" Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> New CIM learning aid in PWG tools directory Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:34:22 -0500 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: New CIM learning aid in PWG tools directory Thread-Index: AcWMf7fPtFFilmjyQcmzeMmEEqw72w== From: To: Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2005 16:34:22.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[B82C3F90:01C58C7F] Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C58C7F.B7F3A7B2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To those interested in participating in the DMTF CIM/PWG realignment activity: NEW LEARNING AID for CIM available on ftp.pwg.org/tools (must login)! There is a new file in the tools directory that can be *extremely* useful to anyone trying to learn about the DMTF CIM model. =20 flatClassesHTML_CIM2.9_20050330.zip (and associated flatClassesHTML_README.txt) This zip archive contains easily read and heavily hyperlinked versions of the CIM V2.9 specs. If you have 50MB of disk space available, and who doesn't these days, then you need this reference document. These HTML files are translated from the official XML version of the CIM specs, available on www.dmtf.org. =20 Be sure to extract these files into a new subdirectory somewhere: there are 2,500 files. The root of the HTML tree is CIM29Index.html. The formatting works best using Internet Explorer and recent versions of Firefox. =20 Many thanks to Bob Blair of Newisys, Inc., for creating and maintaining these documents, and for allowing PWG to use them. =20 rick ------------------------- Richard_Landau@dell.com, System Mgt Arch & Stds +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3 Box 8352, Round Rock, TX 78682 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C58C7F.B7F3A7B2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New CIM learning aid in PWG tools directory

To those interested in participating in = the DMTF CIM/PWG realignment activity:

      NEW = LEARNING AID for CIM available on ftp.pwg.org/tools (must login)!

There is a new file in the tools = directory that can be *extremely* useful to anyone trying to learn about = the DMTF CIM model. 

        flatClassesHTML_CIM2.9_20050330.zip

        (and associated flatClassesHTML_README.txt)

This zip archive contains easily read = and heavily hyperlinked versions of the CIM V2.9 specs.  If you = have 50MB of disk space available, and who doesn't these days, then you = need this reference document.  These HTML files are translated from = the official XML version of the CIM specs, available on www.dmtf.org

Be sure to extract these files into a = new subdirectory somewhere: there are 2,500 files.  The root of the = HTML tree is CIM29Index.html.  The formatting works best using = Internet Explorer and recent versions of Firefox. 


Many thanks to Bob Blair of Newisys, = Inc., for creating and maintaining these documents, and for allowing PWG = to use them. 

rick

-------------------------
Richard_Landau@dell.com, System Mgt Arch & Stds
+1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3 = Box 8352, Round Rock, TX 78682


------_=_NextPart_001_01C58C7F.B7F3A7B2-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Jul 19 13:58:30 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DuwMP-0003mM-K4; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:58:29 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA18933; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6JHvk714299; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:45:49 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6JHjaN13388 for pwg-announce-out; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:45:36 -0400 (EDT) From: wamwagner@comcast.net To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> CIM/PWG Realignment Kickoff 12 Noon EDT 20 July Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:45:27 +0000 Message-Id: <071920051745.5793.42DD3C370000577E000016A122007507849D0A02090E99030E99@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: d2Ftd2FnbmVyQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5793_1121795127_0" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5793_1121795127_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To those interested in participating in the DMTF CIM/PWG realignment activity: The kickoff teleconference for the CIM/PWG realignment activity is tomorrow, Wednesday 20 July, at 12 noon EDT. We plan to discuss approaches, starting with Harry's and Rick's input at last weeks face to face {ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/PWG-CIM_alignment_project_20050711.pdf }, establish a weekly or bi-weekly time slot for CIM WIMS teleconferences and, in general, get oriented. Dial In: 1-866-365-4406 Toll #: 1-303-248-9655 Passcode: 2635888# Subsequent emails bearing on DMTF CIM/PWG activities will be on the WIMS mailing list. See http://www.pwg.org/mailhelp.html to subscribe. Bill Wagner, Chairman, WIMS WG --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5793_1121795127_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
To those interested in participating in the DMTF CIM/PWG realignment activity:
 
The kickoff teleconference for the CIM/PWG  realignment activity is tomorrow, Wednesday 20 July, at 12 noon EDT.  We plan to discuss approaches, starting with Harry's and Rick's input at last weeks face to face
establish  a weekly or bi-weekly  time slot for CIM WIMS teleconferences and,  in general,  get oriented.
 

 

Dial In: 1-866-365-4406
Toll #: 1-303-248-9655
Passcode: 2635888#
 
Subsequent emails bearing on DMTF CIM/PWG activities will be on the WIMS mailing list. See http://www.pwg.org/mailhelp.html to subscribe.
 
Bill Wagner, Chairman, WIMS WG
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5793_1121795127_0-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Jul 19 13:59:13 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DuwN6-00043e-Rn; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:59:13 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA18996; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6JHwLe14391; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:47:20 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6JHkUd13443 for pwg-announce-out; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:46:31 -0400 (EDT) To: Cc: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: Re: PWG-ANNOUNCE> New CIM learning aid in PWG tools directory MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: don@lexmark.com Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:35:32 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 07/19/2005 01:35:32 PM, Serialize complete at 07/19/2005 01:35:32 PM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0060A4C685257043_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0060A4C685257043_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rick: The actual link is ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/tools/ ************************************************************************** Don Wright don@lexmark.com f.wright@ieee.org or f.wright@computer.org Director of Standards Lexmark International Past Chair, IEEE SA Standards Board 740 New Circle Rd Chair, Patent Committee IEEE SASB Lexington, Ky 40550 Member-at-large, IEEE CS SAB 859-825-4808 (phone) Member, IEEE-ISTO Board of Directors 603-963-8352 (fax) Member, W3C Advisory Committee ************************************************************************** Sent by: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org 07/19/2005 12:34 PM To: cc: Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> New CIM learning aid in PWG tools directory To those interested in participating in the DMTF CIM/PWG realignment activity: NEW LEARNING AID for CIM available on ftp.pwg.org/tools (must login)! There is a new file in the tools directory that can be *extremely* useful to anyone trying to learn about the DMTF CIM model. flatClassesHTML_CIM2.9_20050330.zip (and associated flatClassesHTML_README.txt) This zip archive contains easily read and heavily hyperlinked versions of the CIM V2.9 specs. If you have 50MB of disk space available, and who doesn't these days, then you need this reference document. These HTML files are translated from the official XML version of the CIM specs, available on www.dmtf.org. Be sure to extract these files into a new subdirectory somewhere: there are 2,500 files. The root of the HTML tree is CIM29Index.html. The formatting works best using Internet Explorer and recent versions of Firefox. Many thanks to Bob Blair of Newisys, Inc., for creating and maintaining these documents, and for allowing PWG to use them. rick ------------------------- Richard_Landau@dell.com, System Mgt Arch & Stds +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3 Box 8352, Round Rock, TX 78682 --=_alternative 0060A4C685257043_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Rick:

The actual link is ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/tools/

**************************************************************************
 Don Wright                   don@lexmark.com
                              f.wright@ieee.org or f.wright@computer.org
 Director of Standards
 Lexmark International        Past Chair, IEEE SA Standards Board
 740 New Circle Rd            Chair, Patent Committee IEEE SASB
 Lexington, Ky 40550          Member-at-large, IEEE CS SAB
 859-825-4808 (phone)         Member, IEEE-ISTO Board of Directors
 603-963-8352 (fax)           Member, W3C Advisory Committee
**************************************************************************



<Richard_Landau@Dell.com>
Sent by: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org

07/19/2005 12:34 PM

       
        To:        <pwg-announce@pwg.org>
        cc:        <Winston_Bumpus@Dell.com>
        Subject:        PWG-ANNOUNCE> New CIM learning aid in PWG tools directory



To those interested in participating in the DMTF CIM/PWG realignment activity:

      NEW LEARNING AID for CIM available on ftp.pwg.org/tools (must login)!

There is a new file in the tools directory that can be *extremely* useful to anyone trying to learn about the DMTF CIM model.  

        flatClassesHTML_CIM2.9_20050330.zip

        (and associated flatClassesHTML_README.txt)

This zip archive contains easily read and heavily hyperlinked versions of the CIM V2.9 specs.  If you have 50MB of disk space available, and who doesn't these days, then you need this reference document.  These HTML files are translated from the official XML version of the CIM specs, available on www.dmtf.org.  

Be sure to extract these files into a new subdirectory somewhere: there are 2,500 files.  The root of the HTML tree is CIM29Index.html.  The formatting works best using Internet Explorer and recent versions of Firefox.  

Many thanks to Bob Blair of Newisys, Inc., for creating and maintaining these documents, and for allowing PWG to use them.  

rick

-------------------------
Richard_Landau@dell.com,
System Mgt Arch & Stds
+1-512-728-9023,
One Dell Way, RR5-3 Box 8352, Round Rock, TX 78682

--=_alternative 0060A4C685257043_=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Jul 20 13:55:54 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DvInQ-0005TQ-2h; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:55:54 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA15785; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6KHtOc11833; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:53:53 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6KHrbq11389 for pwg-announce-out; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'pwg-announce@pwg.org'" Cc: "'wims@pwg.org'" Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Call for Prototyping - WIMS Counter MIB Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:54:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org Hi, Under the PWG Process/2.0 a protocol interface (or schema) cannot be approved by Formal Vote until at least one prototype has been built. If your company would consider prototyping the Counter MIB, please reply to this note at the 'wims@pwg.org' mailing list. The PWG Counter Spec (now completing final edits after Last Call and soon to be adopted by Formal Vote) is not usable in products without the Counter MIB, Counter Schema, or other concrete mapping. Cheers, - Ira (editor of Counter MIB) Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Jul 25 18:34:00 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxBWJ-0003WZ-P2 for ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:34:00 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA00740 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6PMXKp26010 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:31:25 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6PMUUW25886 for ipp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:30:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sharplabs.com (keymaster.sharplabs.com [216.65.151.107]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id j6PMUSQ25882 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:30:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com (admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com [172.29.225.253]) by sharplabs.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j6PMUqvv020153 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:32:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'ipp@pwg.org'" Subject: IPP> FW: IESG review comments on IPP Notifications specs - May 2003 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:32:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi folks, These are from a local email copy of mine - haven't searched the PWG archive for this note or for Ned Freed's additional comments on specifically IPP Mailto. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com ------------------------------------------------------ From: Carl [carl@manros.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 8:50 PM To: ipp@pwg.org Subject: IPP> IESG review comments on the revised notification documents Please see IESG comments on Notification drafts below. It seems there is still a fair amount of work for the document editors to get these drafts through for IETF publication. Carl-Uno Carl-Uno Manros 700 Carnegie Street #3724 Henderson, NV 89052, USA Tel +1-702-617-9414 Fax +1-702-617-9417 Mob +1-702-525-0727 Email carl@manros.com Web www.manros.com -----Original Message----- Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 14:28:27 -0700 (PDT) From: ned.freed@mrochek.com Subject: IESG review comments on the revised notification documents To: ipp@pwg.org Cc: ned.freed@mrochek.com Message-id: <01KVHWNL7QZQ002O3W@mauve.mrochek.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The IESG has reviewed the revised IPP notification specifications and has raised a fair number of discussion points. In keeping with new IESG policies, these discuss comments have been posted on the datatracker and are identified by the IESG member who made them. I'll also include a copy of the comments below. Ned Russ: 1. Numbering in section 5.2 is confusing (at least to me). Shouldn't paragraph 4 contain subparagraphs with letters a) and b)? 2. Section 5.3.1 says: The Printer MUST treat the address part of this attribute as opaque. This seems like a very bad idea. The security considerations acknowledge that IPP notifications can be a source of SPAM. If the Printer is not allowed to look at the address portion of a URL, how can a vendor implement responsible filters? 3. Section 5.3.3.5.3 says: This section contains rule for special cases. I cannot figure out what this means, but I think it can simply be deleted. 4. Section 19 (a.k.a. Appendix D) is using words that are already defined in RFC 2119. Why? Ted: In the rules for processing subscription Template Attributes, Section 5.2, Rule 8 d, the Status code 'client-error-too-many-subscriptions' indicates that the client SHOULD try again later when a subscription object could not be created because the printer is out of space for subscription objects. For the per-job subscription, this seems too strong a recommendation, given that the job may complete while the client waits to resubscribe. Is there another reason this is not a MAY? In notify-recipient-uri (Section 5.3.1, page 23), there is a requirement that the printer MUST treat the address part of the attribute as opaque. This doesn't make sense to me. One of the real security issues here is that the system doesn't have any mechanism to prevent abuse of the third party notifications. If you allow the printer to optionally parse the address, you could at least have simple rules like "all notifications must be within example.com". I don't see any reason to disallow that by forcing the printers to treat them as opaque. They MAY treat them as opaque, of course. 5.3.3.5.3 on special cases for matching rules says that a printer MUST NOT try to consolidate seemingly identical even notifications and MUST NOT reject subscription creation operations that would create this scenario. Splitting the examples so that they handled this case separately would help, as the current text mixes the allowed case (delivering a notification for only the more specific state when two are subscribed) with this case in confusing ways. 8.2 says that the message in notify-text is in text/plain with the charset specified in the "notify-charset" attribute. This section should explain how to avoid conflict if text/plain has a charset parameter that does not match the notify-charset attribute. Disallowing a charset parameter would work, but it needs to be specified. The structure of the appendices is pretty strange for an RFC, given that Appendices A-F occur in what we would consider the body of the RFC, and G and H after. I'd suggest that the appendices prior to the Authors' addresses be given normal section identifiers, especially since they are interleaved with standard text. Also, do we commonly have normative appendices (see Appendix D, for example)? The IANA registration section 24.2 indicates an Enum attribute value registration. This is actually in the ipp-registrations IANA registry, and though the cited RFC 2911 makes that clear, it might be useful to say "additional ENUM Attribute Value Registrations within the IPP registry" to avoid confusion. The document lists the Copyright statement as an appendix (appendix H) and gives its status as Informative. I think it would be better to use the common form and leave the question of whether it is normative or informative to the lawyers. Allison: Overall I would give the documents a no-objection, though they are repetitive and under-edited. But draft-ietf-ipp-notify-get-09.txt leads me to a Discuss because of the following material. The first Note is too casual the error condition if the connection is closed and the client does not receive a response. What is the recovery after this? Does it not depend on the particular response? Some are more critical than others: the system is not made to be idempotent. The document needs to recommend (Strong SHOULD) that the peers not do abnormal connection close. TCP CLOSE ensures delivery of the data so it can be ensured that the response has been received. Also, when a proper TCP CLOSE is done, because for instance the printer server wants to reduce some transport state, it will keep the the IPP state of the client, or not? This is something that should be stated here. The second Note is ungrammatical (no proxy want) and unnecessary in this overlong document. The printer protocol cannot control what proxies in its environment will do, right? -------- 4. If the client requested Event Wait Mode ("notify-wait" = 'true'), and the Printer initially honored the request, but later wishes to leave Event Wait Mode, the Printer MUST return the "notify-get-interval" operation attribute (see section 5.2.1). The Printer returns the response as an application/ipp part which MUST be inside an multi-part/related type. Note: All of the above is without either the Printer or the Notification Recipient closing the connection. In fact, the connection SHOULD remain open for any subsequent IPP operations. However, either the Notification Recipient or the Printer can abnormally terminate by closing the connection. But, if the Printer closes the connection too soon after returning the response, the client may not receive the response. The Printer MAY chunk the responses, but this has no significance to the IPP semantics. Note: While HTTP/1.1 allows a proxy to collect chunked responses over a period of time and return them back as a single un-chunked response (with a Content Length instead). However, in practice no proxy wants to have an infinite buffer. Also no proxy want to hold up responses, since user would be furious. Steve: I would be nice to add (via RFC editor's note) some text to Appendices A and B that warns about the security risks of proxied notifications. Security is then no longer end-to-end, which creates some added risks. Bert: However, - Document draft-ietf-ipp-not-spec-11.txt on page 37 says: The 0 value is not permitted in order to allow for compatibility with "job-id" and with SNMP index values, which also cannot be 0. And that is not exactly correct. First of all, most people will probably understand what is meant by "SNMP index value". But "MIB table index value" would be the better/correct terminology. Also, such an index value is recommended NOT to be zero, but legaly it actually can take a value of zero. Maybe not in the table that they use it in (which they are not specifying). As I said, I think most people will understand, only an occasional purist may bitch about it, so I don't want to raise a discuss for this. - document draft-ietf-ipp-not-06.txt - uses FQDN like IBM.COM instead of example.com (page 4) - Are the question marks on pages 10/11 meant as bullets, or does it indicate that they have no idea which of these are real requirements? 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-0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:38:21 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6QIc0d11987 for pwg-announce-out; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:38:00 -0400 (EDT) From: wamwagner@comcast.net To: pwg-announce@pwg.org;wims@pwg.org;;;; Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> WIMS/CIM Teleconference July 28 2PM EDT Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:38:17 +0000 Message-Id: <072620051838.17235.42E68318000A57BA0000435322007610649D0A02090E99030E99@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: d2Ftd2FnbmVyQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17235_1122403097_0" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17235_1122403097_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To those interested in participating in the DMTF CIM/PWG realignment activity: At last week's kickoff conference: a. Thursdays at 2 PM EDT was established as the recurring conference call time. This time is just for CIM related topics and is distinguished from the general WIMS conference on Wednesdays. b. Craig Whittle (Sharp) was appointed WIMS Co-Chair and CIM Topic leader. c. Immediate action items were established: 1. Rick will post a sample CIM change request HTML template. (DONE) 2. A general announcement will be posted that PWG-CIM has been organized and is running under WIMS. (DONE) 3. Ira will post the first pass review of Printer MIBv2 matched to CIM_Printer 4. By Aug 4, we will have collectively reviewed the Printer MIB and CIM and agree on the phase-1 (pipe cleaner) set of candidate recommendations. 5. By Aug 18 we will have a draft of the phase-1 submission. 6. Harry will re-open the Work Register with DMTF, review the schedule, clarify the phased approach and try to get a better feel for what process will be encountered on the way to DMTF approval. The next WIMS/CIM conference is 28 July at 2PM EDT. Call in information is: Dial In: 1-866-365-4406 Toll #: 1-303-248-9655 Passcode: 2635888# Tentative Agenda is: 1. acceptance of the last meeting's Minutes: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/cim/minutes/cim_050720.pdf 2. Review of Agenda - Craig's Input 3. Review of Progress on scheduled items (3,4,5 above) 4. Change request process information (much simplified by Rick's information) 5. Consideration of CIM Printer Device, using the posted "flatClassessHTML_CIM2.9_20050330.zip" tool. at ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/tools/ 6. Next steps. Subsequent emails bearing on DMTF CIM/PWG activities will be on the WIMS mailing list. See http://www.pwg.org/mailhelp.html to subscribe. Bill Wagner, Chairman, WIMS WG --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17235_1122403097_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

To those interested in participating in the DMTF CIM/PWG realignment activity:
 
At last week's kickoff conference:
 
a.     Thursdays at 2 PM EDT was established as the recurring conference call time. This time is just for CIM related topics and is distinguished from the general WIMS conference on Wednesdays.
b.     Craig Whittle (Sharp) was appointed WIMS Co-Chair and CIM Topic leader.  
c.     Immediate action items were established:
 
1. Rick will post a sample CIM change request HTML template. (DONE)

2. A general announcement  will be posted that PWG-CIM has been organized and is running under WIMS. (DONE)

3. Ira will post the first pass review of Printer MIBv2 matched to CIM_Printer

4. By Aug 4, we will have collectively reviewed the Printer MIB and CIM and agree on the phase-1 (pipe cleaner) set of candidate recommendations.

5. By Aug 18 we will have a draft of the phase-1 submission.

6. Harry will re-open the Work Register with DMTF, review the schedule, clarify the phased approach and try to get a better feel for what process will be encountered on the way to DMTF approval.

The next WIMS/CIM conference is 28 July at 2PM EDT. Call in information is:

Dial In: 1-866-365-4406
Toll #: 1-303-248-9655
Passcode: 2635888# 
 

Tentative Agenda is:

 1. acceptance of the last meeting's Minutes: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/cim/minutes/cim_050720.pdf

2. Review of  Agenda - Craig's Input

3. Review of Progress on scheduled items  (3,4,5 above)

4. Change request process information (much simplified by Rick's information)

5. Consideration of CIM Printer Device, using the posted "flatClassessHTML_CIM2.9_20050330.zip" tool. at  ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/tools/

6. Next steps.

 
Subsequent emails bearing on DMTF CIM/PWG activities will be on the WIMS mailing list. See http://www.pwg.org/mailhelp.html to subscribe.
 
Bill Wagner, Chairman, WIMS WG

 

 

 

 

--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17235_1122403097_0-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Jul 27 13:59:56 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxqCC-000228-7s; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:59:56 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA18472; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6RHxLa09756; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:57:02 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6RHund09498 for pwg-announce-out; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:56:49 -0400 (EDT) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> July 2005 PWG Plenary Meeting Minutes Posted MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: thrasher@lexmark.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:56:45 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 07/27/2005 01:56:47 PM, Serialize complete at 07/27/2005 01:56:47 PM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006295108525704B_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006295108525704B_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The minutes from the July 13, 2005 PWG Plenary Meeting hosted by Apple have been posted to the PWG's ftp site at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg_plenary_minutes_20050713.pdf Jerry Thrashe PWG Secretary --=_alternative 006295108525704B_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The minutes from the July 13, 2005 &= nbsp;PWG Plenary Meeting hosted by Apple have been posted to the PWG's ftp = site at:

ftp://ftp.pw= g.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg=5Fplenary=5Fminutes=5F20050713.pdf


Jerry Thrashe
PWG Secretary








--=_alternative 006295108525704B_=-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Jul 27 14:23:06 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DxqYb-0000MN-On for ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:23:06 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA20523 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6RIMZk12672 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:21:55 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6RIKxo12350 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dns.easysw.com (dns.easysw.com [65.120.94.1]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6RIKv412345 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:20:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [65.120.94.169] (tango.easysw.com [65.120.94.169]) by dns.easysw.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC82C15A20B; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42E7D0A3.8030808@easysw.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:21:23 -0400 From: Michael Sweet Organization: Easy Software Products User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'ipp@pwg.org'" Subject: IPP> IPP mailto: notification prototype... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, In reading through the plenary meeting notes I saw the question about a prototype implementing the spec - such a prototype will be available publicly in the next CUPS 1.2 developer snapshot... I'll make a formal release announcement once the snapshot is out... -- ______________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Easy Software Products mike at easysw dot com Internet Printing and Document Software http://www.easysw.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Jul 28 10:50:36 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Dy9iV-00031C-Gm for ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:50:36 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA02958 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6SEnY627441 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:45:35 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6SEifA27240 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sharplabs.com (keymaster.sharplabs.com [216.65.151.107]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id j6SEiYe27236 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com (admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com [172.29.225.253]) by sharplabs.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j6SEilpE010238; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by admsrvnt02.enet.sharplabs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:46:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McDonald, Ira" To: "'Michael Sweet'" , "'ipp@pwg.org'" Subject: RE: IPP> IPP mailto: notification prototype... Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:46:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi Michael, Thanks! To clarify, if you have already written IPP Mailto in an unreleased CUPS 1.2 snapshot, then you have already SATISFIED the PWG Process requirement for at least one prototype before bringing a new document to Formal Vote for a PWG Candidate Standard. We purposely did NOT specify in the PWG Process/2.0 that a prototype had to cover all features or be publicly disclosed. Only the results of the prototyping need to be reported to the IPP mailing list, with as much or as little detail as you wish. Thanks for promptly responding on this issue. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org]On Behalf Of Michael > Sweet > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:21 PM > To: 'ipp@pwg.org' > Subject: IPP> IPP mailto: notification prototype... > > > All, > > In reading through the plenary meeting notes I saw the question > about a prototype implementing the spec - such a prototype will > be available publicly in the next CUPS 1.2 developer snapshot... > > I'll make a formal release announcement once the snapshot is out... > > -- > ______________________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Easy Software Products mike at easysw dot com > Internet Printing and Document Software http://www.easysw.com > From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Jul 28 11:31:24 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyAM0-0006Oa-Fo for ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:31:24 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA05740 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6SFUcj01480 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:29:11 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6SFS3Q01021 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dns.easysw.com (dns.easysw.com [65.120.94.1]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6SFS2w01017 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [65.120.94.169] (tango.easysw.com [65.120.94.169]) by dns.easysw.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7C615A240; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42E8F993.4070307@easysw.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:28:19 -0400 From: Michael Sweet Organization: Easy Software Products User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "McDonald, Ira" CC: "'ipp@pwg.org'" Subject: Re: IPP> IPP mailto: notification prototype... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit McDonald, Ira wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Thanks! > > To clarify, if you have already written IPP Mailto in an unreleased > CUPS 1.2 snapshot, then you have already SATISFIED the PWG Process > requirement for at least one prototype before bringing a new document > to Formal Vote for a PWG Candidate Standard. > ... OK, great! FWIW, the current code already contains the bits to support mailto, we just haven't finished the notifier program which creates the email message from the IPP event notification and sends it to the recipient... -- ______________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Easy Software Products mike at easysw dot com Internet Printing and Document Software http://www.easysw.com From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Thu Jul 28 18:51:28 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyHDp-0008RE-Hi; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:51:28 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA04705; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6SMor210177; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:47:09 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6SMkuC09911 for pwg-announce-out; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:46:56 -0400 (EDT) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Cc: joann.kilyk@ieee-isto.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Letter of Assurance for Patent Essential to IPP MailTo received from Ricoh MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4NP June 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:47:13 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.53HF546 | May 23, 2005) at 07/28/2005 16:47:15, Serialize complete at 07/28/2005 16:47:15 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007D29C58725704C_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007D29C58725704C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The PWG has received a Letter of Assurance from Ricoh Company, Ltd. which states that US Patent 6889263 is essential to the IPP MailTo delivery method of event notification. Please see ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/loa/ipp/20050721174635246.pdf for further details including the patent holders position on licensing. Because of the legal nature of patents, I will include a reminder that standard IEEE policy regarding communications about patents includes the following: 1. We do not discuss the validity or essential nature of patents or their claims in our standards forums or e-mail 2. We do not discuss the costs related to use of a specific patent 3. We do not discuss licensing terms or conditions other than to acknowledge the patent holders stated position regarding licensing 4. We do not discuss ongoing or threatened litigation 5. We do not remain silent, rather, we formally object if inappropriate topics are discussed. There may be discussion about the direct effect this LOA may have on the IPP MailTo working draft and its status progressing toward PWG Candidate Standard. Please use the IPP@PWG.ORG mail list for any such discussion (not PWG-ANNOUNCE). ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- --=_alternative 007D29C58725704C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
The PWG has received a Letter of Assurance from Ricoh Company, Ltd. which states that US Patent 6889263 is essential to the IPP MailTo delivery method of event notification.
Please see  ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/loa/ipp/20050721174635246.pdf  for further details including the patent holders position on licensing.

Because of the legal nature of patents, I will include a reminder that standard IEEE policy regarding communications about patents includes the following:

1. We do not discuss the validity or essential nature of patents or their claims in our standards forums or e-mail
2. We do not discuss the costs related to use of a specific patent
3. We do not discuss licensing terms or conditions other than to acknowledge the patent holders stated position regarding licensing
4. We do not discuss ongoing or threatened litigation
5. We do not remain silent, rather, we formally object if inappropriate topics are discussed.

There may be discussion about the direct effect this LOA may have on the IPP MailTo working draft and its status progressing toward PWG Candidate Standard. Please use the IPP@PWG.ORG mail list for any such discussion (not PWG-ANNOUNCE).
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Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
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--=_alternative 007D29C58725704C_=-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Jul 28 19:28:47 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyHnz-0002mP-77 for ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:28:47 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA06388 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6SNSGv13326 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:27:11 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6SNQJl13206 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:26:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange2k.rpsa.ricoh.com (mail.rpsa.ricoh.com [192.101.159.107]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id j6SNQGJ13202 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:26:17 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C593CB.67F32626" Subject: IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:23:48 -0700 Message-ID: <41A3AA9A3516CB418C179FFDEF9E5A821545F3@exchange2k.hitachi-ps.us> Thread-Topic: IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent Thread-Index: AcWTy2oYFhyTDIG9SWuKRuA+ovKDcg== From: "Bergman, Ron" To: Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C593CB.67F32626 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C593CB.67F32626" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C593CB.67F32626 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Due to the stated position of Ricoh Company, Ltd. (RCL) with respect to = patent #6,889,263 and the IPP 'mailto' specification, all work on this = document will end immediately. The draft documents will remain in the = IPP archives, but all references to IPP 'mailto' will be removed from = the web site. My sincere thanks to all who have contributed to this = effort over the last 5 to 7 years. See attached email for further details. Ron Bergman Ricoh Printing Systems America <>=20 ------_=_NextPart_002_01C593CB.67F32626 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent

Due to the stated position of Ricoh = Company, Ltd. (RCL) with respect to patent #6,889,263 and the IPP = 'mailto' specification, all work on this document will end = immediately.  The draft documents will remain in the IPP archives, = but all references to IPP 'mailto' will be removed from the web = site.  My sincere thanks to all who have contributed to this effort = over the last 5 to 7 years.

See attached email for further = details.

        Ron Bergman
        Ricoh Printing Systems America

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from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyJMB-0004oR-NA for ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:08:12 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA11195 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6T17Uk17883 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:06:35 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6T15ef17757 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:05:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange2k.rpsa.ricoh.com (mail.rpsa.ricoh.com [192.101.159.107]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id j6T15cQ17753 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:05:38 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:03:01 -0700 Message-ID: <41A3AA9A3516CB418C179FFDEF9E5A821545F5@exchange2k.hitachi-ps.us> Thread-Topic: IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent Thread-Index: AcWT1+JHKetJRp3xTX+X7P8hAd9p9gAACnMw From: "Bergman, Ron" To: "McDonald, Ira" , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pwg.org id j6T15dQ17754 Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ira, If there is WG consensus that the document should progress, I am certainly willing to agree to move it forward. However, after the discussions at the last meeting it was clear that the possibility of a vote of approval is not likely under these circumstances. And, since I am a Ricoh employee, I am not in the best position to be promoting this standard. Ron -----Original Message----- From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald@sharplabs.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:57 PM To: Bergman, Ron; ipp@pwg.org Subject: RE: IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent Hi Ron, To clarify, the PWG Process/2.0 does NOT prevent the Formal Vote and adoption of a first-stage Candidate Standard, even with encumbered IPR. It prevents the ADVANCEMENT to Standard. IPP 'mailto' is NOT subject to cancellation as a project because of encumberment. I make no statement about the extent or validity of Ricoh's patent. But its existence is insufficient to automatically cancel IPP 'mailto' on the PWG standards track. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org]On Behalf Of Bergman, Ron Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:24 PM To: ipp@pwg.org Subject: IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent Due to the stated position of Ricoh Company, Ltd. (RCL) with respect to patent #6,889,263 and the IPP 'mailto' specification, all work on this document will end immediately. The draft documents will remain in the IPP archives, but all references to IPP 'mailto' will be removed from the web site. My sincere thanks to all who have contributed to this effort over the last 5 to 7 years. See attached email for further details. Ron Bergman Ricoh Printing Systems America <> From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Jul 28 21:55:05 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyK5Y-0000js-17 for ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:55:05 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA13172 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6T1sX820234 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:53:49 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6T1qxm20113 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dns.easysw.com (dns.easysw.com [65.120.94.1]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6T1qqr20109 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (gmp-inet7-20.gmpexpress.net [72.9.7.20]) by dns.easysw.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FCAD15A23F; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42E98C0C.3010007@easysw.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:53:16 -0400 From: Michael Sweet Organization: Easy Software Products User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bergman, Ron" CC: "McDonald, Ira" , ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent References: <41A3AA9A3516CB418C179FFDEF9E5A821545F5@exchange2k.hitachi-ps.us> In-Reply-To: <41A3AA9A3516CB418C179FFDEF9E5A821545F5@exchange2k.hitachi-ps.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bergman, Ron wrote: > Ira, > > If there is WG consensus that the document should progress, I am > certainly willing to agree to move it forward. However, after the > discussions at the last meeting it was clear that the possibility > of a vote of approval is not likely under these circumstances. > And, since I am a Ricoh employee, I am not in the best position > to be promoting this standard. FWIW, we will still be moving forward with mailto in CUPS. Talk with me off-line if you want the details... -- ______________________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Easy Software Products mike at easysw dot com Internet Printing and Publishing Software http://www.easysw.com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Jul 28 23:35:29 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyLef-0002MV-FZ for ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:35:29 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA17286 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6T3Ys122564 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:34:21 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6T3XW422450 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from e33.co.us.ibm.com (e33.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.131]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id j6T3XUV22446 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.106]) by e33.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j6T3Xsxk599560 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:33:54 -0400 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j6T3Xvb4071048 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:33:57 -0600 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6T3XrLg005438 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:33:53 -0600 Received: from d03nm132.boulder.ibm.com (d03nm132.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.172]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6T3XmYb004752; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:33:48 -0600 In-Reply-To: <41A3AA9A3516CB418C179FFDEF9E5A821545F3@exchange2k.hitachi-ps.us> To: "Bergman, Ron" Cc: ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Build V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4NP June 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:33:05 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 6.53HF546 | May 23, 2005) at 07/28/2005 21:33:53 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_mixed 00137EC28725704D_=" Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org --=_mixed 00137EC28725704D_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00137EC28725704D_=" --=_alternative 00137EC28725704D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am not sure it is necessary (or appropriate) to remove any materials from the PWG archives. In fact, I feel the work accomplished in the PWG should certainly be preserved. A separate topic is whether or not we should continue moving the current work forward to Candidate Standard at this time. If we do move to CS, we will need to make it very clear and visible that IPP MailTo will not likely become a PWG Standard while the patent right continues to be asserted according to the registered LOA. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- "Bergman, Ron" Sent by: owner-ipp@pwg.org 07/28/2005 05:23 PM To cc Subject IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent Due to the stated position of Ricoh Company, Ltd. (RCL) with respect to patent #6,889,263 and the IPP 'mailto' specification, all work on this document will end immediately. The draft documents will remain in the IPP archives, but all references to IPP 'mailto' will be removed from the web site. My sincere thanks to all who have contributed to this effort over the last 5 to 7 years. See attached email for further details. Ron Bergman Ricoh Printing Systems America <> --=_alternative 00137EC28725704D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I am not sure it is necessary (or appropriate) to remove any materials from the PWG archives. In fact, I feel the work accomplished in the PWG should certainly be preserved.
A separate topic is whether or not we should continue moving the current work forward to Candidate Standard at this time. If we do move to CS, we will need to make it very clear and visible that IPP MailTo will not likely become a PWG Standard while the patent right continues to be asserted according to the registered LOA.  
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Harry Lewis
IBM STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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Due to the stated position of Ricoh Company, Ltd. (RCL) with respect to patent #6,889,263 and the IPP 'mailto' specification, all work on this document will end immediately.  The draft documents will remain in the IPP archives, but all references to IPP 'mailto' will be removed from the web site.  My sincere thanks to all who have contributed to this effort over the last 5 to 7 years.

See attached email for further details.

        Ron Bergman
       
Ricoh Printing Systems America

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odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyWxh-0006RK-6I for ipp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:39:49 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA17718 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with SMTP id j6TFd4E00975 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:37:05 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) id j6TFa5j00830 for ipp-outgoing; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:36:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange2k.rpsa.ricoh.com (mail.rpsa.ricoh.com [192.101.159.107]) by pwg.org (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.9.2) with ESMTP id j6TFZs700825 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:36:04 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C59452.D89F76D9" Subject: RE: IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:33:19 -0700 Message-ID: <41A3AA9A3516CB418C179FFDEF9E5A821545F6@exchange2k.hitachi-ps.us> Thread-Topic: IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent Thread-Index: AcWT7fWQC6WParzeRrGCKztkleYs+gAY7dYg From: "Bergman, Ron" To: "Harry Lewis" Cc: Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C59452.D89F76D9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Harry, =20 Sorry, I did not intend to imply any work is to be removed from the = archives. But currrently the IPP PWG home page indicates mailto is a = work in process. Unless there is a strong consensus to go to CS with = this document, this is not work in process and the statement should be = removed. There is still a link to archived documents, but there is no = link to specific "aborted" work. =20 Ron -----Original Message----- From: Harry Lewis [mailto:harryl@us.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:33 PM To: Bergman, Ron Cc: ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent I am not sure it is necessary (or appropriate) to remove any materials = from the PWG archives. In fact, I feel the work accomplished in the PWG = should certainly be preserved.=20 A separate topic is whether or not we should continue moving the current = work forward to Candidate Standard at this time. If we do move to CS, we = will need to make it very clear and visible that IPP MailTo will not = likely become a PWG Standard while the patent right continues to be = asserted according to the registered LOA. =20 ----------------------------------------------=20 Harry Lewis=20 IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems=20 http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ----------------------------------------------=20 "Bergman, Ron" =20 Sent by: owner-ipp@pwg.org=20 07/28/2005 05:23 PM=20 To =20 cc Subject IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh Patent =09 Due to the stated position of Ricoh Company, Ltd. (RCL) with respect to = patent #6,889,263 and the IPP 'mailto' specification, all work on this = document will end immediately. The draft documents will remain in the = IPP archives, but all references to IPP 'mailto' will be removed from = the web site. My sincere thanks to all who have contributed to this = effort over the last 5 to 7 years.=20 See attached email for further details.=20 Ron Bergman=20 Ricoh Printing Systems America=20 <>=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C59452.D89F76D9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi=20 Harry,
 
Sorry,=20 I did not intend to imply any work is to be removed from the = archives.  But=20 currrently the IPP PWG home page indicates mailto is a work in = process. =20 Unless there is a strong consensus to go to CS with this document, this = is not=20 work in process and the statement should be removed.  There is = still a link=20 to archived documents, but there is no link to specific "aborted"=20 work.
 
    Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Lewis=20 [mailto:harryl@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 = 8:33=20 PM
To: Bergman, Ron
Cc: = ipp@pwg.org
Subject: Re:=20 IPP> IPP 'mailto' Specification and Ricoh=20 Patent


I am = not sure it=20 is necessary (or appropriate) to remove any materials from the PWG = archives.=20 In fact, I feel the work accomplished in the PWG should certainly be=20 preserved.
A separate = topic is whether=20 or not we should continue moving the current work forward to Candidate = Standard at this time. If we do move to CS, we will need to make it = very clear=20 and visible that IPP MailTo will not likely become a PWG Standard = while the=20 patent right continues to be asserted according to the registered LOA. =  
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Harry = Lewis
IBM=20 STSM
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working=20 Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems=20 =
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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"Bergman, = Ron"=20 <Ron.Bergman@rpsa.ricoh.com>
Sent by: owner-ipp@pwg.org=20

07/28/2005 05:23 PM =

To
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cc
Subject
IPP> IPP 'mailto'=20 Specification and Ricoh = Patent

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Due to the stated position of Ricoh Company, Ltd. (RCL) with = respect to=20 patent #6,889,263 and the IPP 'mailto' specification, all work on this = document will end immediately.  The draft documents will remain = in the=20 IPP archives, but all references to IPP 'mailto' will be removed from = the web=20 site.  My sincere thanks to all who have contributed to this = effort over=20 the last 5 to 7 years.=20

See attached email for further = details.

        Ron=20 Bergman
      =  
Ricoh Printing Systems America

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