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귀하의 품안에 원하는 애인을 
              쏘옥~~안겨드립니다!! 

    
1. 먼저 전화기를 들고(핸드폰 일반전화가능) 

   060-707-7485

   를 꾹꾹 누릅니다.

2. 이쁜언냐의 안내멘트가 끝나고 *를 눌러줍니다.

3. 귀하가 원하는 회원번호 5자리를 눌러줍니다.

4. 귀하가 원하는 비밀번호 4자리를 눌러줍니다.

5. 메세지가 도착했을때나 추후에 회원번호 비밀번호

   확인을 위한 귀하의 핸드폰번호를 입력한후 *를 

   눌러줍니다.(필확인요!!)

6. 축하합니다~란 멘트와함께 1번 2번 코너 안내멘트가

   나오면 회원등록성공!!

7. 1번메세지청취코너나 3번 공개게시판코너에서

   맘에드는 이쁜언냐들의 메세지를 듣고 5번

   눌러 멋진음성으로 답장을 보내거나 
  
   귀하의 개인프로필을 남깁니다~~

** 이케하면 오빠야 품으로 열나섹쒸 쭉쭉빵빵 언냐들이 호박넝쿨처럼 우루룩!! **


    
본 메일은 정보통신망 이용촉진법 규정에 따라 광고메일임을 표시하였으며 수신거부장치를 마련하고 있습니다. 
원치 않은 정보였다면 정중히 사과 드리며, 수신거부를 해 주시면 다음부터는 메일이 발송되지 않을 것입니다
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선불요금제 참조자료집






    

    

    


    안녕하세요 저호준이에요
    
잘지내고 계시져?
    
좋은정보가 이렇게 멜보내 드려요
    
한번 꼼꼼히 따져보세요 아마 많은도움될거에요
    
아래에 파일첨부했으니 읽어보시고요
    
그럼 또 멜드릴께요
    

    		

    

    

    

    
 
    

    

    

    

    

    

    

    

    

    
 선불요금제서비스는 어느날 갑자기 나온 서비스가 아닌, 선진 여러나라에서는
이미 기존에 실시하고는 서비스로 회사의 입장에서는 안정적이며 미납 걱정이 없는 회원유치를 하여 회사의 안정성을 꾀할
수 있으며, 이에따른 고객은 각종 혜택 및 수당을 받는 것입니다.
    
즉 선불제요금제란 먼저 일정부분의 통신료를 내고 캐쉬백(현금)과 기타 수당을 받는 요금체계이며, 이로인한 혜택을 고객에게
크게는 35%에 해당되는 부분을 다시 현금으로 돌려드리고 있습니다.     		


    
    		

    

    
    		

    

    


    

    
 
 
    

    

    

    
1. 악성연체 요금으로 인한 금융 신용불량자의 증가.

    
2. 인적, 물적으로 많은 관리비용 필요 (요금고지,
채권관리 등). 
    
3. 이동통신 사용자가 사용요금의 인지없이 무분별한 사용으로 인한 과소비
초래. 
    

    
이러한, 문제로 인해 세계적으로 이동통신은 선불요금제로 전환되고 있습니다.     
    
※ 2002년에는 IMT2000 서비스가 시작되며, 그때는 지금
사용요금의 3~4배에 이르는 서비스 요금이 사용될 것이라고 예측하고 있습니다. 통신시장이 개방되었음에도
불구하고, 외국의 거대통신기업들이 지금 잠잠한것은 바로 이 IMT2000 시대을 기다리며, 우리나라 통신시장을
넘보고 있는 것입니다.     		

    

    
 
    

    

    


    

    


    

    
: 개인대리점으로 구성
    
고정된 지역 대리점을 탈피하여 지역에 상관없이 움직이는 대리점으로 구성     		

    

    


    

    

　


    일반대리점 

    		


    KTF 선불대리점


    		

    

    


    범       
위

    		
지역별
한계
지역
제한없이 전국

    

    
시       
설
매장
임대 (보증금 + 시설비 등)
매장
불필요

    

    
담       
보
단말기
구매를 위해 담보물 제공
담보
없음

    

    
관
리 유 지
관리
인원 및 관리비 과다 지출
없음

    

    
수  
수   료
관리수수료
회원장려금

    

    
시  
장   성
시장성이
없다. (포화상태)
무한한
시장성 (초기시장 선점)

    

    
해  
지   율
고객
이동이 많다.
    

    
(대리점간 공용시스템)    		
고객이동
없음.
    

    
(전용시스템)    		

    

    

    

    
     


    

    


      ▶ 사용이 불편하다
: 접속번호와  카드번호를 입력한 후 사용하여야 통화가 연결됩니다. 
    
 ▶ 시외전화 :
기업, 회사에서 많이 사용 (약 2조원)  개인은
1가구당 약 4,600원 사용 
    
 ▶ 국제전화 :
기업, 무역회사, 오파상등이 많이 사용 (약1조원) 개인
사용은 미비하다.

    		

    

    


    

    
     



    

    
   ▶
사용이 편리하다.
: 후불 전화 사용과 동일

    
     ▶ 2,750만명이
넘는 대부분의 고객이 개인으로 구성되어 있습니다.

    
     ▶
 선불시장은 무한합니다.
: 2750만 후불요금 사용고객

    
     ▶
 1가구당 11만원 이상 사용합니다.
(1999년 통계)    		

    

    
    		

    

    


    

    


    

    
요금상품
일
기본료
월
기본료
국내통화료 
    
(원/10초)    		
비
고

    

    
평상
할인
심야

    

    
선불
표준
533
원
16,000
원
18
원
15
원
10
원
　

    

    
선불
에이스
616
원
18,500
원
15
원
14
원
13
원
　

    

    
선불프리
200
1,183
원
35,500
원
17
원
14
원
10
원
200분
무료

    

    

    

    

      ▶ 요금상품 변경시 적용시점 : 변경과 동시에 변경요금으로 정산되나,
월 1회에 한함. 
    
  ▶ 할 인 시 간 
    
        1) 선불표준,
선불에이스 요금의 경우 
    
       - 평일 (토요일 포함) : 0 ~
6 시 (심야) / 6 ~ 12 (할인) / 12 ~ 24 (평상)     
    
       - 공휴일 (일요일 포함) : 0
~ 6시 (심야) / 6 ~ 24 (할인) 
    
         2)
선불프리 200 요금의 경우
    
          
- 평일 (토요일 포함) : 0 ~ 6 시
(심야) / 6 ~ 8, 21 ~ 24 (할인) / 8 ~ 21 (평상)
    
      
- 공휴일 (일요일 포함) : 0 ~ 6시 (심야) / 6 ~ 24 (할인)    

    		

    

    

    

    

    


    

    
  KTF(한국통신프리텔)의
탄생 당시부터 모든 시스템을 담당해 온  대우정보시스템은  
    
 기존 전자상거래의 기반부재로 오는 적자요인을 주식회사 나라콤의
네트워크 마케팅을  
    
 통하여     최단기간 최대회원의 기반확보를
목표로  KTF, 대우정보시스템, 주식회사

    
 나라콤의         전략적 제휴를
통하여 
    
     선진국형 선불요금제도

    - KTF
016 선불요금제도 -
    

    를  탄생시켰습니다.
 
    
    		

    

    
    		

    

    
 
    

E-mail : corud2@dreamwiz.com
    

    

    

    
    		
 

    

    
    		

    

    


    

    


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    안녕하세요
    

    



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    안녕하십니까? 메일데이터를 저렴한 
가격에 드립니다. 
관심없으시면 메일을 삭제해 주십시오.
    본 메일은 정보통신부 권고사항에 의거하여 제목에 
[광고]라 표시된 메일입니다.
    본 내용은 스팸메일의 유형에 아무것도 속하지 않습니다.(피라미드, 
행운의편지, 성인관련홍보 등)
    또한 각 사이트의 공개게시판에서 임의추출한 것이므로 귀하의 
신용정보와 아무런 연관이 없습니다.

    프로그램으로 추출하여 작업한 
메일데이터의 특징은 다음과 같습니다.
    다음우표제? 
안심하십시오. 철저한 작업으로 한메일이 없습니다. (한메일 포함된 것도 있음)
    중복메일? 
안심하십시오. 중복메일이 없습니다. 수신거부에 편리합니다.
    통합? 
편리하게 사용하시도록 똑같은 개수로 나누었습니다.
    가격? 저렴합니다. 
비싸지 않습니다.
    호환? 한줄에 
하나씩, 그리고 TXT로 저장되어 있습니다.
               어떤 
프로그램과도 호환가능합니다.

    ...등등의 장점이 있습니다.
    드라마틱한 홍보를 
위한 필수데이터! 이런 기회는 다시오지 않습니다.
    사이트를 참고해 주십시오. 건전한 용도로 쓰지 
않는 분에게 판매하지 않으며,
    각종 이용용도를 접수후, 엄선하여 몇분에게만 판매합니다.
    

    move.to/adver 
  come.to/adver
    adver.ce.ro     
     adver.pe.ky
    adver.ox.ro 
      
    

    접속이 
느리면 adver2.(ce.ro / pe.ky / ox.ro)로 접속해 주십시오.
    공지없이 중단되면 
adver3, adver4, 5...이렇게 접속하시면 됩니다.
    이유없이 사이트를 비방, 방해하는 사람에게 손해배상을 요구합니다.
    본 사이트는 회사나 기업이 
아닙니다. 오해마시길 바랍니다.
    또한 본 메일은 사용자의 편의를 위해 절대 한번이상 
발송하지 않습니다.
    따라서 수신거부하실 필요가 없습니다.
    문의사항 있으시면     메일주십시오.
    



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Hi All,

I'm trying to understand Cisco's SRP implementation and I had a few doubts. 
I would really appreciate any clarifications.

- A node advertises it's my_usage which has been low pass filtered
[lp_my_usage - (LP_MU - 1) * lp_my_usage + my_sage / LP_MU].
Qn : I'm a little confused as to why this is done.

- Topology Discovery related :  ... If there is a wrap on the ring, the 
wrapped node will indicate a wrap when appending its mac binding and wrap 
the packet. When the topology packets travel on the wrapped ring, with the 
ring identifier being different from that of the topology packet itself, ...
Qn : The ring identifier refers to the R bit in the SRP header would refer 
to the wrapped ring id (say inner)in question. Right ?
If so, the macType.RingId in the last mac binding inserted by the wrapped 
node should be outer, but the Wrapped node is set to 1. Is my understanding 
correct ?

Qn : The way a node figures out if a particular topology message is a 
wrapped message is by inspecting the macType.wrappednode of the last mac 
binding. Is this correct ?

Thanks,

-- Raj

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> I'm trying to understand Cisco's SRP implementation and I had 
> a few doubts. 
> I would really appreciate any clarifications.
> 
> - A node advertises it's my_usage which has been low pass filtered
> [lp_my_usage - (LP_MU - 1) * lp_my_usage + my_sage / LP_MU].
> Qn : I'm a little confused as to why this is done.

You send "my_usage" because the way the algorithm works
is that you tell everyone else to limit the traffic
that they insert to what you were able to insert on 
the ring.  The low pass filter function is applied so
that the rate doesn't vary like a step function from 
one interval to the next.

> 
> - Topology Discovery related :  ... If there is a wrap on the 
> ring, the 
> wrapped node will indicate a wrap when appending its mac 
> binding and wrap 
> the packet. When the topology packets travel on the wrapped 
> ring, with the 
> ring identifier being different from that of the topology 
> packet itself, ...
> Qn : The ring identifier refers to the R bit in the SRP 
> header would refer 
> to the wrapped ring id (say inner)in question. Right ?
> If so, the macType.RingId in the last mac binding inserted by 
> the wrapped 
> node should be outer, but the Wrapped node is set to 1. Is my 
> understanding 
> correct ?
> 
> Qn : The way a node figures out if a particular topology message is a 
> wrapped message is by inspecting the macType.wrappednode of 
> the last mac 
> binding. Is this correct ?

I'm not sure I fully understand the question, but I'll answer
based on what I think you're asking.  The RingId in every 
packet identifies the ring that the packet was put on
by the originating node.  If the packet is received at
a node, and the RingId does not match the ring that 
it was received on, then the node knows that this is a
packet that was "wrapped" at some point.

By the way, this list is for discussion of IP over RPR
issues.  For RPR-only issues such as these, the right 
place to post questions would be the IEEE 802.17 mailing 
list.  You can get information about this at: 
http://www.ieee802.org/17.

-Anoop


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Raj,

Please see inline comments below.

Thanks,
Donghui


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>Hi All,
>
>I'm trying to understand Cisco's SRP implementation and I had a few 
>doubts. I would really appreciate any clarifications.
>
>- A node advertises it's my_usage which has been low pass filtered
>[lp_my_usage - (LP_MU - 1) * lp_my_usage + my_sage / LP_MU].
>Qn : I'm a little confused as to why this is done.

my_usage is a kind of instantaneous bytes count being transmitted which 
usually varies in wide range depending on the ingress traffic burst. 
Running my_usage through a low pass filter (the above formula) yields a 
value without its high frequency noise, that is lp_my_usage. As such, 
lp_my_usage represents a more stable and more accurate measurement of a 
node's bandwidth usage. Advertising lp_my_usage to other nodes helps 
achieving very good stability and convergence of the overall bandwidth 
management in SRP.


>- Topology Discovery related :  ... If there is a wrap on the ring, the 
>wrapped node will indicate a wrap when appending its mac binding and wrap 
>the packet. When the topology packets travel on the wrapped ring, with the 
>ring identifier being different from that of the topology packet itself, ...
>Qn : The ring identifier refers to the R bit in the SRP header would refer 
>to the wrapped ring id (say inner)in question. Right ?
>If so, the macType.RingId in the last mac binding inserted by the wrapped 
>node should be outer, but the Wrapped node is set to 1. Is my 
>understanding correct ?

The R bit and the ring id in topology mac binding should be set to the 
egress ring id of its originator. If the topology discovery packet is 
originated from inner ring, the R bit and the ring id in mac binding should 
be 1. When the topology discovery packet is received by a wrapped node on 
the inner ring, this node would append its mac binding with its ring id 1 
and wrapped node bit 1, the packet would be then actually transmitted to 
outer ring by the node.


>Qn : The way a node figures out if a particular topology message is a 
>wrapped message is by inspecting the macType.wrappednode of the last mac 
>binding. Is this correct ?

No. It inspects whether the ring id bit in the last mac binding matches the 
rind id on which the topology discovery packet is being received.


>Thanks,
>
>-- Raj
>
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