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We (the authors of ULE security requirements and security header extension draft) have been busy adding the ipdvb and DVB-GBS group comments. We will post a new version of both drafts very shortly. Regarding the 70th IETF, we would like to discuss the progress of our drafts in the ipdvb WP, please. We are making good progress with actual implementation of the ULE header extension. Our plans are to make an open source code available for the security header extension for the ipdvb group. Therefore, discussion of the all above will be good at the next IETF meeting. Many thanks. Haitham (& co-authors) ---- Dr. Haitham S. 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Before sending out a new version, I wanted to check with you how your proposed corrections and suggestions are implemented. A) I added a "Abbreviations" section under 2.1. Is it correct or should it really be under section 3 ? B) I added your suggested diagram (+NCC) together with some explanatory text C) No, we do not intend to support IPv6 at this point. 1) This is a mistake indeed. It seems I wrongly interpreted RFC1213, where it says ------------ By convention, the name assigned is: type OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { transmission number } where "type" is the symbolic value used for the media in the ifType column of the ifTable object, and "number" is the actual integer value corresponding to the symbol. ---------- I thought that the name assigned under the transmission branch shoud be an ifType name. Now I realise that, in IANA's SMI registry, transmission names are often "xxxMIB" when the ifType is "xxx". I guess we should have asked IANA to call this dvbRcsMIB. Do we need to rename the MIB module dvbRcsMacLayer or is it possible to have a different name for the MIB module ? I have seen a few instances in the SMI registry where the MIB module name is slightly different from the transmission name, but it might not be good practice... 2-3-4) Fixed 5) Some of the parameters in the MIB indeed are indeed only defined in SatLabs System Recommendations document, and not in DVB-RCS. Do you mean that these definitions should be added to the I-D (in section 3 before the MIB definition itself) ? 6) Fixed 7) zero (0) indeed 8) Fixed kind regards, Stephane Telecommunications Department (TEN-TP) ESA/ESTEC Keplerlaan.1,P.O.Box 299, NL 2201 AZ Noordwijk ZH Tel:+31 (0)71 56 58 674 Fax:+31 (0)71 56 54 598 Gorry Fairhurst 21/08/2007 15:14 Please respond to gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk To Stephane.Combes@esa.int, "ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk" cc micheline.lambert@advantechamt.com, pca@verisat.no Subject Questions about draft-combes-ipdvb-mib-rcs-01.doc. I have now read the above internet draft, and have the following questions/comments. In a separate email, I will also list editorial comments to assist in preparation of the next version of this I-D. I have NOT reviewed the MIB structure for this revision. This would be appropriate once any corrections are applied and I would like to see this done also before we forward this to our AD for processing. Best wishes, Gorry Fairhurst --- General comments: A) Definitions of terms I think if this document is to be published for use by the Internet Community, it should include a section on "Naming Conventions" used within the MIB. While I am familiar with the under-lying technology, it is probably a bad pre-requisite for readers, and certainly likely to raise questions when submitted for a MIB Review by MIB-Experts. One way to fix this is to add a subsection to section 3, that lists the acconyms/abbreviations and their corresponding definitions within this document. Terms not currently defined at the start of this document include: ACM Adaptive Coding and Modulation ATM Asynchronous Transfer Mode (cell framing) BER Bit Error Ratio BUC ? CCM Constant Coding and Modulation CNR Carrier to Noise Ratio CSC Common Signalling Channel CW Continuous Wave (carrier frequency) dBi deciBel (isotropic) dBm deciBel (with respect to 1 mW) DSCP DiffServ Code Point IDU InDoor Unit IFL Inter-Facility Link LNB Low Noise Block LO Local Oscillator MIB Management Information Base MPEG Motion Pictures Expert Group (TS Packet framing) NCC Network Control Centre OAM Operations and Management PHB Per-Hop Behavior ODU OutDoor Unit PID Program ID (MPEG) RCST Return Channel via Satellite Terminal (DVB) Rx Receive SSPA Solid State Power Amplifier Tx Transmit VCI Virtual Channel Indentifier (ATM) VPI Virtual Path Indentifier (ATM) Vpp Volts peak-to-peak --- B) Architecture is not clear. A diagram in the introduction that links the ODU and IDU with an IFL would be helpful, especially if it identified the location of the LAN interface, Air Interface, etc. Is this a suitable starting point? Please view in a fixed-width font such as Monaco or Courier. +------------+ | IP | | End Host | +-----+------+ | - - - - - - - |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | | LAN interface | | | +------+--------+ | | Indo|r Unit | | | (IDU) | | +------+--------+ | | | | Inter Facility Link (IFL) | | | +------+--------+ | | OutDoor Unit | | | (ODU) | | +------+--------+ | | | | Air Interface | - - - - - - - |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RCST | +--------> FIGURE XX --- C) Is the intention to support IPv6 equally to IPv4, and how is this refelected in the current MIB? --- Comments on specific sections: --- 1) dvbrcsIfMib value 239. Is the descriptor assigned in section 2.1 already assigned by IANA, or to be assigned by IANA as a result of publishing this RFC? I can see a current registry entry as: http://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers 239 dvbRcsMacLayer DVB-RCS MAC Layer [Combes, ETSI EN 301 790, SatLabs] This is not the same as declared in 2.1. This inconsistency needs to be corrected. --- 2) IANA Considerations (relating to note 1) Section 5 is read by IANA during the publication process. This should be updated to tell IANA that this has already been assigned (and indicate the registry used), or that this needs to be assigned. (see note 1), e.g. "This document includes no request to IANA. The assignment described in Section 2.1 has already been assigned under the XXX registry." --- 3) dvbrcsMIB MODULE-IDENTITY The contact information could include a postal address, in addition to the electronic contact details, e.g.: Postal: xxxx --- 4) dvbrcsMIB MODULE-IDENTITY "DVB-RCS MIB subtree. Draft version B." The description included in the MIB itself seems to lack sufficient detail to describe what the MIB is about and the technology to which it relates. --- 5) Possible normative reference to [SATLABS] "systemSatlabsOptions" Says: "Indicates the options supported as defined in SatLabs system recommendations version 2." - This reference appears to be normative, in that correct interpretation of the MIB will depend upon definitions external to this document. The document cited is NOT a standards body specification (which is fine, but not normal for a normative reference). My question is to whether the descriptions are provided in the document (which could be informative), or definitions (which sound normative). Could the authors please clarify? --- 6) systemLocation "NMEA 0183 format: is cited, but no reference provided. --- 7) Page 58: The values /rtnstatusEbN0/ etc use the digit "0", rather than the letter "O", was this intentional? --- 8) Page 45: ctrlRcstTxDisable This states: "This variable shall force the RCST to stop transmission (transmit disabled as defined in [1])/ - What is [1]? - Cited references need to be formatted correctly. --- --=_alternative 003089C5C1257372_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Dear Gorry,


I've finally managed to go again through the MIB and I-D. Many thanks for your very precise and useful review !


Before sending out a new version, I wanted to check with you how your proposed corrections and suggestions are implemented.

A) I added a "Abbreviations" section under 2.1. Is it correct or should it really be under section 3 ?

B) I added your suggested diagram (+NCC) together with some explanatory text

C) No, we do not intend to support IPv6 at this point.

1) This is a mistake indeed.
It seems I wrongly interpreted RFC1213, where it says

------------
By convention, the name assigned is:
     type OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { transmission number }
  where "type" is the symbolic value used for the media in the ifType
  column of the ifTable object, and "number" is the actual integer
  value corresponding to the symbol.

----------

I thought that the name assigned under the transmission branch shoud be an ifType name. Now I realise that, in IANA's SMI registry, transmission names are often "xxxMIB" when the ifType is "xxx".
I guess we should have asked IANA to call this dvbRcsMIB.
Do we need to rename the MIB module dvbRcsMacLayer or is it possible to have a different name for the MIB module ? I have seen a few instances in the SMI registry where the MIB module name is slightly different from the transmission name, but it might not be good practice...

2-3-4) Fixed

5) Some of the parameters in the MIB indeed are indeed only defined in SatLabs System Recommendations document, and not in DVB-RCS. Do you mean that these definitions should be added to the I-D (in section 3 before the MIB definition itself) ?

6) Fixed

7) zero (0) indeed

8) Fixed


kind regards,

Stephane

Telecommunications Department (TEN-TP)
ESA/ESTEC
Keplerlaan.1,P.O.Box 299, NL 2201 AZ Noordwijk ZH
Tel:+31 (0)71 56 58 674
Fax:+31 (0)71 56 54 598



Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>

21/08/2007 15:14
Please respond to
gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk

To
Stephane.Combes@esa.int, "ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk" <ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk>
cc
micheline.lambert@advantechamt.com, pca@verisat.no
Subject
Questions about draft-combes-ipdvb-mib-rcs-01.doc.





I have now read the above internet draft, and have the following
questions/comments. In a separate email, I will also list editorial
comments to assist in preparation of the next version of this I-D.

I have NOT reviewed the MIB structure for this revision. This would be
appropriate once any corrections are applied and  I  would like to see
this done also before we forward this to our AD for processing.

Best wishes,

Gorry Fairhurst

---

General comments:

A) Definitions of terms

I think if this document is to be published for use by the Internet
Community, it should include a section on "Naming Conventions" used
within the MIB. While I am familiar with the under-lying technology, it
is probably a bad pre-requisite for readers, and certainly likely to
raise questions when submitted for a MIB Review by MIB-Experts.

One way to fix this is to add a subsection to section 3, that lists the
acconyms/abbreviations and their corresponding definitions within this
document.

Terms not currently defined at the start of this document include:

ACM        Adaptive Coding and Modulation
ATM        Asynchronous Transfer Mode (cell framing)
BER        Bit Error Ratio
BUC        ?
CCM        Constant Coding and Modulation
CNR        Carrier to Noise Ratio
CSC        Common Signalling Channel
CW        Continuous Wave (carrier frequency)
dBi        deciBel (isotropic)
dBm        deciBel (with respect to 1 mW)
DSCP        DiffServ Code Point
IDU        InDoor Unit
IFL        Inter-Facility Link
LNB        Low Noise Block
LO        Local Oscillator
MIB        Management Information Base
MPEG        Motion Pictures Expert Group (TS Packet framing)
NCC        Network Control Centre
OAM        Operations and Management
PHB        Per-Hop Behavior
ODU        OutDoor Unit
PID        Program ID (MPEG)
RCST        Return Channel via Satellite Terminal (DVB)
Rx        Receive
SSPA        Solid State Power Amplifier
Tx        Transmit
VCI        Virtual Channel Indentifier (ATM)
VPI        Virtual Path Indentifier (ATM)
Vpp        Volts peak-to-peak

---

B) Architecture is not clear.

A diagram in the introduction that links the ODU and IDU with an IFL
would be helpful, especially if it identified the location of the LAN
interface, Air Interface, etc. Is this a suitable starting point?

Please view in a fixed-width font such as Monaco or
Courier.



+------------+
|  IP        |
|  End Host  |
+-----+------+

|
- - - - - - - |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

|              | LAN interface                 |
|

|       +------+--------+                      |
|  Indo|r Unit  |

|       |  (IDU)        |                      |
+------+--------+

|              |                               |
| Inter Facility Link (IFL)

|              |                               |
+------+--------+

|       | OutDoor Unit  |                      |
| (ODU)         |

|       +------+--------+                      |
|

|              | Air Interface                 |
- - - - - - - |- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

RCST         |
+-------->


FIGURE XX

---
C) Is the intention to support IPv6 equally to IPv4, and how is this
refelected in the current MIB?


---

Comments on specific sections:

---
1) dvbrcsIfMib value 239.
Is the descriptor assigned in section 2.1 already assigned by IANA, or
to be assigned by IANA as a result of publishing this RFC?

I can see a current registry entry as:
http://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers
239   dvbRcsMacLayer  DVB-RCS MAC Layer  [Combes, ETSI EN 301 790,
SatLabs]

This is not the same as declared in 2.1. This inconsistency needs to be
corrected.
---
2) IANA Considerations (relating to note 1)

Section 5 is read by IANA during the publication process. This should be
updated to tell IANA that this has already been assigned (and indicate
the registry used), or that this needs to be assigned. (see note 1), e.g.
"This document includes no request to IANA. The assignment described in
Section 2.1 has already been assigned under the XXX registry."
---
3) dvbrcsMIB MODULE-IDENTITY
The contact information could include a postal address, in addition to
the electronic contact details, e.g.:
Postal: xxxx
---
4) dvbrcsMIB MODULE-IDENTITY
"DVB-RCS MIB subtree. Draft version B."
The description included in the MIB itself seems to lack sufficient
detail to describe what the MIB is about and the technology to which it
relates.
---
5) Possible normative reference to [SATLABS]
"systemSatlabsOptions"
Says:
"Indicates the options supported as defined in SatLabs system

recommendations version 2."
- This reference appears to be normative, in that correct interpretation
of the MIB will depend upon definitions external to this document. The
document cited is NOT a standards body specification (which is fine, but
not normal for a normative reference). My question is to whether the
descriptions are provided in the document (which could be informative),
or definitions (which sound normative). Could the authors please clarify?
---
6) systemLocation
"NMEA 0183 format: is cited, but no reference provided.
---
7) Page 58:
The values /rtnstatusEbN0/ etc
use the digit "0", rather than the letter "O", was this intentional?
---
8) Page 45: ctrlRcstTxDisable
This states: "This variable shall force the RCST to stop transmission

(transmit disabled as defined in [1])/
- What is [1]?
- Cited references need to be formatted correctly.
---


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My understanding is that the complete contents of section 3 should be a parse-able MIB module. > B) I added your suggested diagram (+NCC) together with some explanatory > text > OK > C) No, we do not intend to support IPv6 at this point. > Aha. > 1) This is a mistake indeed. > It seems I wrongly interpreted RFC1213, where it says > > ------------ > By convention, the name assigned is: > type OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { transmission number } > where "type" is the symbolic value used for the media in the ifType > column of the ifTable object, and "number" is the actual integer > value corresponding to the symbol. > ---------- > > I thought that the name assigned under the transmission branch should be > an ifType name. 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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C810CE.2A58F700-- From cyjflbatnln@bmwleasing.com Wed Oct 17 13:02:16 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiCHg-0001Vy-Ua; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:02:16 -0400 Received: from 66-215-235-167.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com ([66.215.235.167] helo=c-2de67c70b08a4) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IiCHU-000322-Te; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:02:10 -0400 Received: from [66.215.235.167] by smtp.secureserver.net; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:59:27 -0800 From: "Amparo Seymour" To: Subject: British PM Brown arrives in Iraq Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:59:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C8109C.05753890" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Aca6QM9RXHLKH6KO5ZT3KWW2048O39== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Message-ID: <01c8109c$05753890$a7ebd742@cyjflbatnln> X-Spam-Score: 3.5 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 2d53b06eede2bb6b618e318c7466f38f This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C8109C.05753890 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000F_01C8109C.05753890" ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C8109C.05753890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The visit comes as unconfirmed reports suggestedBrown was considering a reduction in the number of British troops in the southern Iraqi city of Basra. Reports said as many as 2,000 troops could be home by the spring, according to the British Press Association. The Basra contingent could fall to little over 3,000 in the next six months, the PA reported, citing The Daily Telegraph newspaper. In early September Brown dismissed a suggestion that a withdrawal by UK troops from their base in the southern Iraqi city of Basra was a defeat, insisting it was an "organized" move. He made the comments as 500 British troops completed their withdrawal from Basra Palace. Carol Ann Gotbaum may have accidentally strangled herself while trying to get out of her handcuffs, Phoenix Police Department spokesman Sgt. Andy Hill said Saturday. In Asia on Tuesday, Tokyo's Nikkei 225 gained 200 points to close up 1.19 percent at 17,047, its highest finish since August 9. Technology companies Sony (4.2 percent) and Canon (2.6 percent) and automakers Nissan (3 percent) were among the biggest gainers. "But I have seen him verbally and mentally assault many people," Allen told CNN. "He's good with mind games. He's good at twisting people's realities and manipulating people." Gotbaum was the mother of three young children and the daughter-in-law of longtime New York City Public Advocate Betsy Gotbaum. "The mother has cooperated with us," De Meo said. "We believe that the mother was not aware of anything that went on with this young girl. It was very sad for her to find this out." "According to investigators, it appeared as though Ms. Gotbaum had possibly tried to manipulate the handcuffs from behind her to the front, got tangled up in the process, and they ended up around her neck area," he said. While handcuffed, the New Yorker became "disruptive" and she was taken to a holding room, where she was left alone, Hill told CNN affiliate KTVK. Witnesses told police that Gotbaum was "yelling and screaming" and running through the terminal Friday. She was arrested for disorderly conduct. Investigators said officers went to check on her five to 10 minutes later. Police policy requires that be done every 15 minutes. Finding Gotbaum "unconscious and not breathing," Hill said, officers performed CPR. Allen said nobody realized the child had been abused. "Sometime during the time she went into custody, she went into medical distress," he said. Betsy Gotbaum called Carol Ann Gotbaum "a wonderful, wonderful person" and a great mother. She said the family was dealing with the situation "the best way we can." A spokeswoman for the Maricopa County medical examiner said an autopsy would be conducted Monday morning. Authorities have identified Chester A. Stiles, 37, as the suspect in the tape. A resident of Pahrump, Nevada, he remains at-large, De Meo said. Pahrump is about 60 miles west of Las Vegas. (CNN) -- Darren Tuck, the man who gave police a tape depicting the rape of a 3-year-old girl, turned himself in Sunday to Nye County, Nevada, authorities. Someone close to Stiles told investigators Stiles is a "survivalist type" and always carries a weapon, Nye County District Attorney Bob Beckett said. CNN and other news organizations did so until the child was found, and De Meo asked media to stop showing the picture. Stiles was a distant friend of the girl's family, De Meo said. Todd Allen, a Las Vegas resident, told CNN he once lived with the girl from the video and her mother. He said he recognizes his old apartment from scenes in the video. He said he knows the suspect because Allen's mother dated Stiles and the couple spent time together at Allen's apartment. Watch Allen describe Stiles and the girl » "She's what you'd expect a little girl in elementary school to be like," he said. "You would never know something like that happened. Ever." ------=_NextPart_001_000F_01C8109C.05753890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The visit comes as unconfirmed reports suggestedBrown was considering= a reduction in the number of British troops in the southern Iraqi city o= f Basra. Reports said as many as 2,000 troops could be home by the spring= , according to the British Press Association. The Basra contingent could = fall to little over 3,000 in the next six months, the PA reported, citing= The Daily Telegraph newspaper.


In early September Brown dismissed a suggestion that a withdrawal by = UK troops from their base in the southern Iraqi city of Basra was a defea= t, insisting it was an "organized" move. He made the comments as 500 Brit= ish troops completed their withdrawal from Basra Palace.


Carol Ann Gotbaum may have accidentally strangled herself while tryin= g to get out of her handcuffs, Phoenix Police Department spokesman Sgt. A= ndy Hill said Saturday.


In Asia on Tuesday, Tokyo's Nikkei 225 gained 200 points to close up = 1.19 percent at 17,047, its highest finish since August 9. Technology com= panies Sony (4.2 percent) and Canon (2.6 percent) and automakers Nissan (= 3 percent) were among the biggest gainers.


"But I have seen him verbally and mentally assault many people," Alle= n told CNN. "He's good with mind games. He's good at twisting people's re= alities and manipulating people."


Gotbaum was the mother of three young children and the daughter-in-la= w of longtime New York City Public Advocate Betsy Gotbaum.


"The mother has cooperated with us," De Meo said. "We believe that th= e mother was not aware of anything that went on with this young girl. It = was very sad for her to find this out."


"According to investigators, it appeared as though Ms. Gotbaum had po= ssibly tried to manipulate the handcuffs from behind her to the front, go= t tangled up in the process, and they ended up around her neck area," he = said.


While handcuffed, the New Yorker became "disruptive" and she was take= n to a holding room, where she was left alone, Hill told CNN affiliate KT= VK.


Witnesses told police that Gotbaum was "yelling and screaming" and ru= nning through the terminal Friday. She was arrested for disorderly conduc= t.


Investigators said officers went to check on her five to 10 minutes l= ater. Police policy requires that be done every 15 minutes.


Fi= nding Gotbaum "unconscious and not breathing," Hill said, officers perfor= med CPR.


Allen said nobody realized the child had been abused.


"Sometime during the time she went into custody, she went into medica= l distress," he said.


Betsy Gotbaum called Carol Ann Gotbaum "a wonderful, wonderful person= " and a great mother. She said the family was dealing with the situation = "the best way we can."


A spokeswoman for the Maricopa County medical examiner said an autops= y would be conducted Monday morning.


Authorities have identified Chester A. Stiles, 37, as the suspect in = the tape. A resident of Pahrump, Nevada, he remains at-large, De Meo sai= d. Pahrump is about 60 miles west of Las Vegas.


(CNN) -- Darren Tuck, the man who gave police a tape depicting th= e rape of a 3-year-old girl, turned himself in Sunday to Nye County, Neva= da, authorities.


Someone close to Stiles told investigators Stiles is a "survivalist t= ype" and always carries a weapon, Nye County District Attorney Bob Becket= t said.


CNN and other news organizations did so until the child was found, an= d De Meo asked media to stop showing the picture.


Stiles was a distant friend of the girl's family, De Meo said.

Todd Allen, a Las Vegas resident, told CNN he once lived with the g= irl from the video and her mother. He said he recognizes his old apartmen= t from scenes in the video. He said he knows the suspect because Allen's = mother dated Stiles and the couple spent time together at Allen's apartme= nt. Watch Allen describe Stiles and the girl =BB


"She's what you'd expect a little girl in elementary school to be lik= e," he said. "You would never know something like that happened. Ever."

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Cruickshank > Lecturer > Communications Centre for Communication Systems Research (CCSR) > BA Building, Room E11 > School of Electronics, Computing and Mathematics > University of Surrey, Guildford, UK, GU2 7XH > > Tel: +44 1483 686007 (indirect 689844) > Fax: +44 1483 686011 > e-mail: H.Cruickshank@surrey.ac.uk > http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/H.Cruickshank/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk [mailto:owner- > ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk] On > Behalf Of Gorry Fairhurst > Sent: 28 September 2007 08:59 > To: ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk > Subject: 70th IETF - Working Group/BOF Scheduling > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > 70th IETF - Vancouver, BC, Canada > Meeting Dates: December 2-7, 2007 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Dear ipdvb, > > We currently have two active WG Internet Drafts, and two independent > submissions. It looks to me like both WG drafts will have completed > WGLC by the date of the next meeting. Do we need agenda time fro a > formal meeting, or will a Bar-BoF be a better forum to discuss > future WG > activities? Is there any new work that the ipdvb WG should be > addressing > at the next IETF meeting? > > Please do send suggestions of agenda items to either Martin or > Gorry, by > 1st October 2007. > > Best wishes, > > Gorry Fairhust > (ipdvb WG Chair) > > stiemerling@netlab.nec.de NEC Laboratories Europe - Network Research Division NEC Europe Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014 --Apple-Mail-14--3891785 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi=A0Haitham,

We haven't scheduled any WG = session for the 70th IETF, as all WG items are supposed to be ready for = submission.=A0

However, we are planning = for a=A0Bar-BoF at the IETF, i.e., coming together one evening and = discuss about the current status and possible future work for = IPDVB.

=A0 = Martin (IPDVB WG secretary)


Am 05.10.2007 = um 16:30 schrieb <H.Cruickshank@surrey.ac.uk&= gt; <H.Cruickshank@surrey.ac.uk&= gt;:


=A0Hi = Gorry,

Sorry for the late response. =A0

We (the = authors of ULE security requirements and security header
extension draft) have been busy adding the ipdvb and = DVB-GBS group
comments.=A0 We will post a new version of = both drafts very shortly.

Regarding the 70th IETF, we = would like to discuss the progress of our
drafts = in the ipdvb WP, please.=A0 = We are making good progress with actual
implementation of the ULE header extension. Our = plans are to make an
open source code available = for the security header extension for the
ipdvb = group. Therefore,=A0 = discussion of the all above will be good at the
next IETF meeting.=A0 Many thanks.

Haitham = (& co-authors)
----
Dr. Haitham S. Cruickshank=A0
=A0
Communications Centre for Communication Systems = Research (CCSR)
BA Building, Room E11=A0
School = of Electronics, Computing and Mathematics
=A0

Tel: +44 1483 = 686007 (indirect 689844)=A0
Fax: +44 = 1483 686011=A0
e-mail: H.Cruickshank@surrey.ac.uk<= SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0

-----Original = Message-----
From: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk = [mailto:owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.= uk] On
Behalf Of Gorry = Fairhurst
Sent: 28 September 2007 = 08:59
Subject: 70th IETF - Working Group/BOF = Scheduling

70th IETF - Vancouver, BC, Canada
Meeting Dates: December 2-7, 2007

Dear = ipdvb,

We currently have two active WG Internet Drafts, and = two independent
submissions.=A0 It looks to me like both WG = drafts will have completed
WGLC by the = date of the next meeting.=A0 = Do we need agenda time fro a
formal = meeting, or will a Bar-BoF be a better forum to discuss future = WG
activities? Is there any new work that the = ipdvb WG should be addressing
at the next = IETF meeting?

Please do send suggestions of agenda items to either = Martin or Gorry, by
1st October 2007.

Best = wishes,

Gorry Fairhust
(ipdvb WG = Chair)


=

stiemerling@netlab.nec.de
NEC Laboratories Europe - Network Research = Division

NEC Europe = Limited |=A0Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London W3 6BL = |=A0Registered in England 2832014

=

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If it is a too strong requirement to fix the position of the security extension header at first place, then it is also too strong to make the timestamp header the only exception to this rule. Therefore, I think a better wording for section A.1.2 would be "There could be other extension headers (either mandatory or optional) but it is recommended that these are always placed after the security extension header. This permits full protection for all headers, and avoids situations where the SNDU has to be discarded on processing the security extension header while preceding headers will already have been evaluated. One exception to this is the timestamp extension which may precede the security extension header [ID-EXT]." Regards, Michael Michael Noisternig wrote: > Dear authors, > > I'll take the last chance and raise my hand once more. There is only two > minor issues I have with the current document. > > First, I want to repeat what I asked for in a previous mail. There is > missing some additional case/motivation for ULEsec in the threat > analysis section: > > What you've got is > - you want end-to-end security, and you can use it (but-last paragraph > of section 3.1), > - you do not need end-to-end security (last paragraph of 3.1). > > What is missing is > - you want end-to-end security, but you CANNOT use it. > > Therefore I suggest to add the following paragraph at the end of section > 3.1: > > ULE links may also be used for communications where the two end-points > are not under central control (e.g., when browsing a public web site). > In these cases, it may be impossible to enforce any end-to-end security > mechanisms. Yet, a common objective is that users can rely on security > assumptions as of wired links. ULE security could achieve this by > protecting the vulnerable (in terms of passive attacks) ULE link. > > > Second, I only realized this now, but you are mixing data (traffic) flow > confidentiality with data confidentiality. Data confidentiality means > protecting the payload data, the content, against eavesdropping. Data > (or traffic) _flow_ confidentiality has to do with concealing addresses, > packet lengths, or frequency of communication. So identity protection is > a type of data flow confidentiality, while data confidentiality will > simply do encryption of the payload. There is several instances of this > mix-up: > > Section 3.3, case 1, should say: > In this scenario, measures must be taken to protect the ULE payload data > and the identity of ULE Receivers. > > Section 4, item 1: Data confidentiality is the major requirement... > > Section 4, case 1: Data confidentiality MUST be provided... > > > Gorry Fairhurst wrote: >> >> This note starts the WG two week Last-Call for comments for the WG >> document named below: >> >> Security requirements for the Unidirectional Lightweight >> Encapsulation (ULE) protocol >> >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipdvb-sec-req-04.txt >> >> This Last-Call will end on midnight GMT, 30th September 2007. >> >> Members of the IETF ipdvb WG are now asked to read the above draft and >> send any issues, comments, or corrections to this mailing list. The WGLC >> procedure is the last chance for this working group to modify/correct >> this document. 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A police officer and the woman's lawyer also were injured, but not ser= iously, police said.


Before visiting Iran, Putin held extensive talks on Iran's nuclear act= ivities with some Western leaders including French President Nicolas Sark= ozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel.


The ANSA news agency identified the man as Klirim Fejzo, his wife as V= yosa Demcolli and her brother as Arjan Demcolli, all Albanians.


TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Russian President Vladimir Putin made an unspeci= fied proposal about Iran's nuclear program at a private meeting with the = country's supreme leader during a brief trip to Tehran, Iran's state news= agency said Wednesday.


Police were investigating how the man managed to take a weapon into th= e courtroom in Reggio Emilia, a city about 80 kilometers (50 miles) north= west of Bologna.


Only one in four trains will be running on Thursday, including suburba= n services linking Paris to its three international airports, she said.

The man and his wife were attending a court hearing in Reggio Emilia a= s part of separation proceedings when he pulled out a gun and pointed it = at his wife and her brother, then started shooting randomly, police said.=


Officials close to hard-liners within Iran's ruling Islamic establishm= ent said they believed the proposal by Putin was a type of "time out" on = U.N. sanctions against Iran, if Tehran suspends uranium enrichment. The t= wo officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nat= ure of the issue.


LONDON, England (CNN) -- Widespread strikes are expected to cripple Fr= ance's transport network just as rugby fans make their way to Paris for t= his weekend's World Cup final.


The strike is expected to cripple France's national train network.

=

With Paris hotels booked full many fans are staying 30 kilometers (20 = miles) outside the city in hotels around Disneyland's Paris resort.

Railway workers will join bus, power, gas and some state employees for= the action called after President Nicolas Sarkozy refused to back down o= ver planned pension reforms, according to Monique Ricard, spokeswoman for= the French railway SNCF.


Trains across France and the Metro -- Paris's subway system -- are exp= ected to come to a halt starting Wednesday night, Ricard said.


SNCF has insisted the industrial action would not continue into the we= ekend.


"We are certainly concerned about the impact for fans. So far we've be= en assured the disruptions should be manageable but it remains to be seen= ," Jessica Chambers, a spokeswoman for the England Rugby Supporters Club.=


Eurostar has advised its customers to avoid all travel on Thursday and= it has cancelled some of its trains on Thursday and Friday.



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All comment received, needs to be considered, and once any required corrections made and agreed on the list, a new revision must be produced. The WG Chair will then prepare a write-up for submission to the IESG. Any further comments on the process or issues with this draft should be directed to the WG Chair and/or Secretary. Best wishes, Gorry Fairhurst (ipdvb WG Chair) From owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Wed Oct 31 04:12:30 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1In8gg-0002WC-GG for ipdvb-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:12:30 -0400 Received: from dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk ([139.133.204.82] helo=erg.abdn.ac.uk) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1In8gf-0007Ys-Me for ipdvb-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:12:30 -0400 Received: from dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9V7kAV3021306 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:46:10 GMT Received: (from majordomo.lists@localhost) by dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.12.2/Submit) id l9V7kApC021305 for ipdvb-subscribed-users; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:46:10 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: dee.erg.abdn.ac.uk: majordomo.lists set sender to owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk using -f Received: from Gorry-Fairhursts-Silver.local (fgrpf.plus.com [212.159.18.54]) (authenticated bits=0) by erg.abdn.ac.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l9V7jlEJ021290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:45:48 GMT Message-ID: <472832AE.9050606@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:45:50 +0000 From: Gorry Fairhurst Organization: School of Engineering, University of Aberdeen, Scotland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Subject: Re: WG Last-Call (WGLC) for comments: draft-ietf-ipdvb-sec-req-04.txt References: <4710EED9.3080806@erg.abdn.ac.uk> <471F7D06.9080504@cosy.sbg.ac.at> <47206D6D.2090000@cosy.sbg.ac.at> In-Reply-To: <47206D6D.2090000@cosy.sbg.ac.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ERG-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No, No Sender: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk X-ERG-MailScanner-From: owner-ipdvb@erg.abdn.ac.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b132cb3ed2d4be2017585bf6859e1ede The current wording in the I-D is: " There could be other extension headers (either mandatory or optional) but these will always be placed after the security extension header. However, there is an exception: the timestamp extension may be placed before the security extension header [ID-EXT]" Adapting your wording slightly, I would suggest: " There could be other extension headers (either mandatory or optional). It is RECOMMENDED that these are placed after the security extension header. This permits full protection for all headers. It avoids situations where the SNDU has to be discarded on processing the security extension header, while preceding headers have already have been evaluated. One exception is the Timestamp extension which SHOULD precede the security extension header [ID-EXT]. " - Please check, I think the only change is that I suggest the normally correct place for the timestamp *is* in front of the security extensio, and hence this is a SHOULD, rather than a MAY. Gorry Michael Noisternig wrote: > More more thing... If it is a too strong requirement to fix the position > of the security extension header at first place, then it is also too > strong to make the timestamp header the only exception to this rule. > > Therefore, I think a better wording for section A.1.2 would be > > "There could be other extension headers (either mandatory or optional) > but it is recommended that these are always placed after the security > extension header. This permits full protection for all headers, and > avoids situations where the SNDU has to be discarded on processing the > security extension header while preceding headers will already have been > evaluated. One exception to this is the timestamp extension which may > precede the security extension header [ID-EXT]." > > Regards, > Michael > > Michael Noisternig wrote: >> Dear authors, >> >> I'll take the last chance and raise my hand once more. There is only >> two minor issues I have with the current document. >> >> First, I want to repeat what I asked for in a previous mail. There is >> missing some additional case/motivation for ULEsec in the threat >> analysis section: >> >> What you've got is >> - you want end-to-end security, and you can use it (but-last paragraph >> of section 3.1), >> - you do not need end-to-end security (last paragraph of 3.1). >> >> What is missing is >> - you want end-to-end security, but you CANNOT use it. >> >> Therefore I suggest to add the following paragraph at the end of >> section 3.1: >> >> ULE links may also be used for communications where the two end-points >> are not under central control (e.g., when browsing a public web site). >> In these cases, it may be impossible to enforce any end-to-end >> security mechanisms. Yet, a common objective is that users can rely on >> security assumptions as of wired links. ULE security could achieve >> this by protecting the vulnerable (in terms of passive attacks) ULE link. >> >> >> Second, I only realized this now, but you are mixing data (traffic) >> flow confidentiality with data confidentiality. Data confidentiality >> means protecting the payload data, the content, against eavesdropping. >> Data (or traffic) _flow_ confidentiality has to do with concealing >> addresses, packet lengths, or frequency of communication. So identity >> protection is a type of data flow confidentiality, while data >> confidentiality will simply do encryption of the payload. There is >> several instances of this mix-up: >> >> Section 3.3, case 1, should say: >> In this scenario, measures must be taken to protect the ULE payload >> data and the identity of ULE Receivers. >> >> Section 4, item 1: Data confidentiality is the major requirement... >> >> Section 4, case 1: Data confidentiality MUST be provided... >> >> >> Gorry Fairhurst wrote: >>> >>> This note starts the WG two week Last-Call for comments for the WG >>> document named below: >>> >>> Security requirements for the Unidirectional Lightweight >>> Encapsulation (ULE) protocol >>> >>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipdvb-sec-req-04.txt >>> >>> This Last-Call will end on midnight GMT, 30th September 2007. >>> >>> Members of the IETF ipdvb WG are now asked to read the above draft >>> and send any issues, comments, or corrections to this mailing list. >>> The WGLC >>> procedure is the last chance for this working group to modify/correct >>> this document. 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"Due to this reason, the Iranian nation and government, while avoiding= adventurism and not giving pretexts to the enemy, will pursue this wise = logic," IRNA quoted Khamenei as telling Putin.


About 80,000 rugby fans are expected to attend Saturday's World Cup fi= nal between England and South Africa.


"He was shooting like crazy at everybody," officer Antonio Turi said.<= /P>

The wife was taken to a hospital, where she was declared clinically de= ad, Italian media reported. Her brother died at the scene.


Russian officials could not immediately be reached to verify the repor= t and the Iranian news agency provided no details on what Putin had propo= sed.


Police were investigating how the man managed to take a weapon into th= e courtroom in Reggio Emilia, a city about 80 kilometers (50 miles) north= west of Bologna.


Before visiting Iran, Putin held extensive talks on Iran's nuclear act= ivities with some Western leaders including French President Nicolas Sark= ozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel.


LONDON, England (CNN) -- Widespread strikes are expected to cripple Fr= ance's transport network just as rugby fans make their way to Paris for t= his weekend's World Cup final.


Putin met with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and attended a su= mmit of Caspian Sea nations Tuesday, the first visit by a Kremlin leader = to Iran since Josef Stalin attended a 1943 summit with Winston Churchill = and Franklin D. Roosevelt.


High demand has pushed upward the price of a pair of tickets for the f= inal to as much as $3,000 in eBay auctions.


Putin has bluntly spelled out his disagreements with Washington, sayin= g last week that he saw no "objective data" to prove Western claims that = Iran is seeking nuclear weapons.


SNCF has insisted the industrial action would not continue into the we= ekend.


The ANSA news agency identified the man as Klirim Fejzo, his wife as V= yosa Demcolli and her brother as Arjan Demcolli, all Albanians.


Khamenei told Putin that Iran is serious about continuing uranium enri= chment in turn but wants to avoid adventurism and cooperate with the U.N.= nuclear watchdog, the news agency said.


With Paris hotels booked full many fans are staying 30 kilometers (20 = miles) outside the city in hotels around Disneyland's Paris resort.

Commercial flights to the French capital were sold out, while thousand= s of England supporters have booked to travel on the Eurostar rail servic= e from London to Paris.


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(v3.71.04) Professional Reply-To: saraciesgroupgyl@aciesgroup.com X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <988462559.95320666778240@aciesgroup.com> To: imrg-owner@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Look in the mirror and enjoy the new you MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------B4F21CE6ED3BBB" X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Scan-Signature: f607d15ccc2bc4eaf3ade8ffa8af02a0 ------------B4F21CE6ED3BBB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anatrim - the most effectual product for over-weight people is now available anywhere!!! 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Anatrim - the most effectual product for over-weight people is now available anywhere!!!

Like a lot of people worldwide, you likely saw the enchanting BBC report about exciting new diet breakthrough "Anatrim Cactus", a miraculous up to date product which took the weight loss industry by a storm!

*Assault Obesity
*Restrains feeling of hunger like second to none
*A hundred per cent Herbal & Unoffending
*Clean Unsophisticated product – Without vehicles
*Support innocuous, instantaneous weight loss
*No any Ephedra/Caffeine!
*Can be integrated without difficulties into subsisting diet programme
*See the pounds fading off and you renovate yourself!
*Helps in your striving for feeling and looking gorgeous!

Read what our customers stated on this stuff:
"WOW! I and my wife have been on roller coater diets for many years. What a depriving ride it was I ought to concede. Your stuff rendered us a service todrop 31 kilogrames between us during 51 days. This happened 183 days ago and up to here the weight did not get back! Lots of thanks to you did we say. Thank you!!!"

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