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From ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Tue Oct 10 04:16:26 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GXCmL-000476-Ki; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:15:57 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GXCmK-00043k-Ls for ipcdn@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:15:56 -0400 Received: from nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com ([198.152.12.103]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GXCmJ-0002TJ-Dg for ipcdn@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:15:56 -0400 Received: from IS0004AVEXU1.global.avaya.com (h135-64-105-51.avaya.com [135.64.105.51]) by nj300815-ier2.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k9A84Ohq014663 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 04:04:25 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:15:49 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RETURNED MAIL: DATA FORMAT ERROR Thread-Index: AcbsREtcs7dfwhRZQg61bM39YiOUUQAAAATG From: "Romascanu, Dan $Dan$" To: X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 769a46790fb42fbb0b0cc700c82f7081 Subject: [ipcdn] Out of Office AutoReply: RETURNED MAIL: DATA FORMAT ERROR X-BeenThere: ipcdn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP over Cable Data Network List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1078677506==" Errors-To: ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1078677506== content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6EC44.4B6D8DE9" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6EC44.4B6D8DE9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am out of office on a business trip followed by vacation. I will be = back on October 12, 2006. I may not read and respond to e-mails during = this period. If you need to contact me urgently, please leave a voice = mail message at my office number. Regards, Dan ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6EC44.4B6D8DE9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Out of Office AutoReply: RETURNED MAIL: DATA FORMAT ERROR

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C6EC44.4B6D8DE9-- --===============1078677506== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ IPCDN mailing list IPCDN@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipcdn --===============1078677506==-- From ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 12 11:39:04 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GY2dT-0001DR-6z; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:38:15 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GY2dS-0001DG-2E for ipcdn@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:38:14 -0400 Received: from soda.ext.ti.com ([198.47.26.145]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GY2dM-0006fC-NB for ipcdn@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:38:14 -0400 Received: from dlep35.itg.ti.com ([157.170.170.118]) by soda.ext.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9CFbM3i009726 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:37:32 -0500 Received: from dlep95.itg.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep35.itg.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9CFbG8m019579; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:37:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dsbe71.ent.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep95.itg.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9CFbGH0028248; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:37:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dlee05.ent.ti.com ([157.170.170.71]) by dsbe71.ent.ti.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:37:16 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:37:15 -0500 Message-ID: <27C82141AA835A428C2EF784424B0D1C054A9304@dlee05.ent.ti.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: pktcSigDevToneDbLevel modifying default value and range-Sig mib draft-11 Thread-Index: AcbuFEtviMz1f0jJRdiqLtEPmiYrRw== From: "Kumar, Satish" To: "Ipcdn $E-mail$" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2006 15:37:16.0807 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BFA0170:01C6EE14] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0ddefe323dd869ab027dbfff7eff0465 Cc: "Sanchez, Mauricio" , Freyman Phillip-FPF300 , Sumanth Channabasappa Subject: [ipcdn] pktcSigDevToneDbLevel modifying default value and range-Sig mib draft-11 X-BeenThere: ipcdn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP over Cable Data Network List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Hi, The MIB pktcSigDevToneDbLevel defined in draft-11 has range (-250..-30) with default value as -40dBm. Normal dial tone is at -13dB (means -130dBm). Current default value is a too loud signal. I would recommend to change the defailt to -120 along with the range to (-250..-110) MIB description from: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipcdn-pktc-signaling-11.tx t pktcSigDevToneDbLevel OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX TenthdBm (-250..-30) UNITS "dBm"=20 MAX-ACCESS read-only=20 STATUS current=20 DESCRIPTION=20 "This MIB Object contains the decibel level for each analog signal (tone) that is locally generated =20 (versus in band supervisory tones) and sourced to =20 the a-b terminals (TE connection point). Each tone =20 in itself may consist of multiple frequencies as =20 defined by the MIB table 'pktcSigDevMultiFreqToneTable'. =20 This MIB Object MUST reflect the desired level at =20 the Telco (POTS) a-b (T/R) terminals including the =20 affect of any MTA receiver gain (loss). This is required=20 so that locally generated tones are consistent with=20 remotely generated in band tones at the a-b terminals,=20 consistent with user expectations. =20 This MIB Object must be set for each tone. When tones are formed by combining multi-frequencies, the level of each frequency shall be set so as to result in the tone level specified in this object at the a-b (T/R) terminals. =20 The wide range of levels for this Object is required =20 to provide signal generator levels across the wide =20 range of gains (loss) - but does not imply the entire=20 range is to be achievable given the range of gains (loss)=20 in the MTA." DEFVAL { -40 }=20 ::=3D{ pktcSigDevMultiFreqToneEntry 8} Comments please... Thx, Satish=20 _______________________________________________ IPCDN mailing list IPCDN@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipcdn From ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 12 14:06:01 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GY4w9-0007Q1-7A; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:05:41 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GY4w7-0007PL-Vl for ipcdn@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:05:39 -0400 Received: from mms2.broadcom.com ([216.31.210.18]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GY4w6-00039y-Is for ipcdn@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:05:39 -0400 Received: from 10.10.64.154 by mms2.broadcom.com with ESMTP (Broadcom SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.2.2)); Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:05:23 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: 79DB55DB-3CB4-423E-BEDB-D0F268247E63 Received: by mail-irva-10.broadcom.com (Postfix, from userid 47) id C42FE2AF; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-irva-8.broadcom.com (mail-irva-8 [10.10.64.221]) by mail-irva-10.broadcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3772AE; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-sj1-12.sj.broadcom.com (mail-sj1-12.sj.broadcom.com [10.16.128.215]) by mail-irva-8.broadcom.com (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id EHK15221; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com (nt-sjca-0751 [10.16.192.221]) by mail-sj1-12.sj.broadcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243B720502; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:05:22 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [ipcdn] pktcSigDevToneDbLevel modifying default value and range-Sig mib draft-11 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:05:20 -0700 Message-ID: <9C5C578DD43AFD4EA7A9F0BDB2F48564024236BD@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> In-Reply-To: <27C82141AA835A428C2EF784424B0D1C054A9304@dlee05.ent.ti.com> Thread-Topic: [ipcdn] pktcSigDevToneDbLevel modifying default value and range-Sig mib draft-11 Thread-Index: AcbuFEtviMz1f0jJRdiqLtEPmiYrRwAE6vzA From: "Eugene Nechamkin" To: "Kumar, Satish" , "Ipcdn (E-mail)" X-WSS-ID: 69305C692I03880673-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 25620135586de10c627e3628c432b04a Cc: "Sanchez, Mauricio" , Freyman Phillip-FPF300 , Sumanth Channabasappa X-BeenThere: ipcdn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP over Cable Data Network List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Satish, This proposal looks reasonable given the fact that POTS specification seems to not require a full existing range of (-250, -30). The proposed default value is also reasonable. Eugene. -----Original Message----- From: Kumar, Satish [mailto:satish.kumar@ti.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:37 AM To: Ipcdn (E-mail) Cc: Sanchez, Mauricio; Freyman Phillip-FPF300; Sumanth Channabasappa Subject: [ipcdn] pktcSigDevToneDbLevel modifying default value and range-Sig mib draft-11 Hi, The MIB pktcSigDevToneDbLevel defined in draft-11 has range (-250..-30) with default value as -40dBm. Normal dial tone is at -13dB (means -130dBm). Current default value is a too loud signal. I would recommend to change the defailt to -120 along with the range to (-250..-110) MIB description from: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipcdn-pktc-signaling-11.tx t pktcSigDevToneDbLevel OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX TenthdBm (-250..-30) UNITS "dBm"=20 MAX-ACCESS read-only=20 STATUS current=20 DESCRIPTION=20 "This MIB Object contains the decibel level for each analog signal (tone) that is locally generated =20 (versus in band supervisory tones) and sourced to =20 the a-b terminals (TE connection point). Each tone =20 in itself may consist of multiple frequencies as =20 defined by the MIB table 'pktcSigDevMultiFreqToneTable'. =20 This MIB Object MUST reflect the desired level at =20 the Telco (POTS) a-b (T/R) terminals including the =20 affect of any MTA receiver gain (loss). This is required=20 so that locally generated tones are consistent with=20 remotely generated in band tones at the a-b terminals,=20 consistent with user expectations. =20 This MIB Object must be set for each tone. When tones are formed by combining multi-frequencies, the level of each frequency shall be set so as to result in the tone level specified in this object at the a-b (T/R) terminals. =20 The wide range of levels for this Object is required =20 to provide signal generator levels across the wide =20 range of gains (loss) - but does not imply the entire=20 range is to be achievable given the range of gains (loss)=20 in the MTA." DEFVAL { -40 }=20 ::=3D{ pktcSigDevMultiFreqToneEntry 8} Comments please... Thx, Satish=20 _______________________________________________ IPCDN mailing list IPCDN@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipcdn _______________________________________________ IPCDN mailing list IPCDN@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipcdn From ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Fri Oct 20 13:40:58 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GayMH-0007w6-Fr; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:40:37 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GayMG-0007w0-BK for ipcdn@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:40:36 -0400 Received: from calf.ext.ti.com ([198.47.26.144]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GayMB-0002p4-1d for ipcdn@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:40:36 -0400 Received: from dlep34.itg.ti.com ([157.170.170.115]) by calf.ext.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9KHdTBN032390 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:39:39 -0500 Received: from dlep95.itg.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep34.itg.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9KHdNqM012711; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:39:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dsbe71.ent.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep95.itg.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9KHdNkW024447; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:39:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dlee05.ent.ti.com ([157.170.170.71]) by dsbe71.ent.ti.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:39:23 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:38:35 -0500 Message-ID: <27C82141AA835A428C2EF784424B0D1C055B38D9@dlee05.ent.ti.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: R5 cadence description Thread-Index: Acb0bpGvKrIGIgRFSv2Crdl3S29vzw== From: "Kumar, Satish" To: "Sumanth Channabasappa" , "Ipcdn $E-mail$" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2006 17:39:23.0677 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE6FA4D0:01C6F46E] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Cc: Freyman Phillip-FPF300 , Eugene Nechamkin Subject: [ipcdn] R5 cadence description X-BeenThere: ipcdn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP over Cable Data Network List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Hi, R5 cadence is a non-repeatable cadence. From NCS spec L package it does not hint so. I would like to add the current modification to MIB in description text. Current text: pktcSigDevR5Cadence OBJECT-TYPE =20 SYNTAX PktcRingCadence =20 MAX-ACCESS read-write =20 STATUS current =20 DESCRIPTION =20 " This object specifies ring cadence 5 (a user defined=20 field). This object is required for the L line package."=20 ::=3D { pktcSigDevConfigObjects 10 } Proposed text: pktcSigDevR5Cadence OBJECT-TYPE =20 SYNTAX PktcRingCadence =20 MAX-ACCESS read-write =20 STATUS current =20 DESCRIPTION =20 " This object specifies ring cadence 5 (a user defined=20 field). This object is required for the L line package. This is a non repeatable cadence."=20 ::=3D { pktcSigDevConfigObjects 10 } Comments please.. Thx, Satish _______________________________________________ IPCDN mailing list IPCDN@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipcdn From ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Fri Oct 20 15:16:43 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gazqy-0001Kq-NA; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:16:24 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gazqx-0001Kk-Nu for ipcdn@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:16:23 -0400 Received: from mms3.broadcom.com ([216.31.210.19]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gazqw-0003HX-1k for ipcdn@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:16:23 -0400 Received: from 10.10.64.154 by MMS3.broadcom.com with ESMTP (Broadcom SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.2.2)); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:16:11 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: 450F6D01-B290-425C-84F8-E170B39A25C9 Received: by mail-irva-10.broadcom.com (Postfix, from userid 47) id 369DB2AE; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-irva-8.broadcom.com (mail-irva-8 [10.10.64.221]) by mail-irva-10.broadcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34302B0; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 12:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-sj1-12.sj.broadcom.com (mail-sj1-12.sj.broadcom.com [10.16.128.215]) by mail-irva-8.broadcom.com (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id EIH68622; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com (nt-sjca-0751 [10.16.192.221]) by mail-sj1-12.sj.broadcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8492420501; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:51:55 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:51:53 -0700 Message-ID: <9C5C578DD43AFD4EA7A9F0BDB2F4856402510554@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> In-Reply-To: <27C82141AA835A428C2EF784424B0D1C055B38D9@dlee05.ent.ti.com> Thread-Topic: R5 cadence description Thread-Index: Acb0bpGvKrIGIgRFSv2Crdl3S29vzwACLK0Q From: "Eugene Nechamkin" To: "Kumar, Satish" , "Sumanth Channabasappa" , "Ipcdn (E-mail)" X-WSS-ID: 6927FFF12A0893900-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7aafa0432175920a4b3e118e16c5cb64 Cc: Freyman Phillip-FPF300 Subject: [ipcdn] RE: R5 cadence description X-BeenThere: ipcdn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP over Cable Data Network List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Satish, The current definition of the PktcRingCadence TC allows for the full range of signaling patterns, both - repeatable and non-repeatable. All MIB Objects using the PktcRingCadence TC, are consistently defined in the MIB draft, and I am not sure if there is any need of making an exception for the pktcSigDevR5Cadence MIB object. While I agree that pktcSigDevR5Cadence can have some clarifying statements, I think they belong to the particular implementation spec (e.g. NCS Specification). Regards, Eugene. =20 -----Original Message----- From: Kumar, Satish [mailto:satish.kumar@ti.com]=20 Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:39 AM To: Sumanth Channabasappa; Ipcdn (E-mail) Cc: Eugene Nechamkin; Freyman Phillip-FPF300 Subject: R5 cadence description Hi, R5 cadence is a non-repeatable cadence. From NCS spec L package it does not hint so. I would like to add the current modification to MIB in description text. Current text: pktcSigDevR5Cadence OBJECT-TYPE =20 SYNTAX PktcRingCadence =20 MAX-ACCESS read-write =20 STATUS current =20 DESCRIPTION =20 " This object specifies ring cadence 5 (a user defined=20 field). This object is required for the L line package."=20 ::=3D { pktcSigDevConfigObjects 10 } Proposed text: pktcSigDevR5Cadence OBJECT-TYPE =20 SYNTAX PktcRingCadence =20 MAX-ACCESS read-write =20 STATUS current =20 DESCRIPTION =20 " This object specifies ring cadence 5 (a user defined=20 field). This object is required for the L line package. This is a non repeatable cadence."=20 ::=3D { pktcSigDevConfigObjects 10 } Comments please.. Thx, Satish _______________________________________________ IPCDN mailing list IPCDN@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipcdn From ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Fri Oct 20 17:06:42 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gb1Z6-00044N-Ed; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:06:04 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gb1Z4-000446-VW for ipcdn@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:06:02 -0400 Received: from bear.ext.ti.com ([192.94.94.41]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gb1Yz-0001UV-FN for ipcdn@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:06:02 -0400 Received: from dlep34.itg.ti.com ([157.170.170.115]) by bear.ext.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9KL5la9017234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:05:52 -0500 Received: from dlep95.itg.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep34.itg.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9KL5lfS026241; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:05:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dsbe71.ent.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep95.itg.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9KL5lXQ013295; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:05:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dlee05.ent.ti.com ([157.170.170.71]) by dsbe71.ent.ti.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:05:47 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:05:10 -0500 Message-ID: <27C82141AA835A428C2EF784424B0D1C055B3A8B@dlee05.ent.ti.com> In-Reply-To: <9C5C578DD43AFD4EA7A9F0BDB2F4856402510554@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: R5 cadence description Thread-Index: Acb0bpGvKrIGIgRFSv2Crdl3S29vzwACLK0QAATzEfA= From: "Kumar, Satish" To: "Eugene Nechamkin" , "Sumanth Channabasappa" , "Ipcdn $E-mail$" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2006 21:05:47.0131 (UTC) FILETIME=[838CC4B0:01C6F48B] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 4b800b1eab964a31702fa68f1ff0e955 Cc: Freyman Phillip-FPF300 Subject: [ipcdn] RE: R5 cadence description X-BeenThere: ipcdn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP over Cable Data Network List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Hi Eugene, PacketCable NCS spec is closed, and changes will be considered only if very critical and field impacting. Having said that atleast we can fix the draft before it becomes RFC. If we leave it as is RFC and NCS spec both are broken. Hence I strongly recommend to fix in MIB description. Thx, Satish -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Nechamkin [mailto:enechamkin@broadcom.com]=20 Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 12:52 PM To: Kumar, Satish; Sumanth Channabasappa; Ipcdn (E-mail) Cc: Freyman Phillip-FPF300 Subject: RE: R5 cadence description Satish, The current definition of the PktcRingCadence TC allows for the full range of signaling patterns, both - repeatable and non-repeatable. All MIB Objects using the PktcRingCadence TC, are consistently defined in the MIB draft, and I am not sure if there is any need of making an exception for the pktcSigDevR5Cadence MIB object. While I agree that pktcSigDevR5Cadence can have some clarifying statements, I think they belong to the particular implementation spec (e.g. NCS Specification). Regards, Eugene. =20 -----Original Message----- From: Kumar, Satish [mailto:satish.kumar@ti.com] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:39 AM To: Sumanth Channabasappa; Ipcdn (E-mail) Cc: Eugene Nechamkin; Freyman Phillip-FPF300 Subject: R5 cadence description Hi, R5 cadence is a non-repeatable cadence. From NCS spec L package it does not hint so. I would like to add the current modification to MIB in description text. Current text: pktcSigDevR5Cadence OBJECT-TYPE =20 SYNTAX PktcRingCadence =20 MAX-ACCESS read-write =20 STATUS current =20 DESCRIPTION =20 " This object specifies ring cadence 5 (a user defined=20 field). This object is required for the L line package."=20 ::=3D { pktcSigDevConfigObjects 10 } Proposed text: pktcSigDevR5Cadence OBJECT-TYPE =20 SYNTAX PktcRingCadence =20 MAX-ACCESS read-write =20 STATUS current =20 DESCRIPTION =20 " This object specifies ring cadence 5 (a user defined=20 field). This object is required for the L line package. This is a non repeatable cadence."=20 ::=3D { pktcSigDevConfigObjects 10 } Comments please.. Thx, Satish _______________________________________________ IPCDN mailing list IPCDN@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipcdn From ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Fri Oct 20 17:12:34 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gb1fO-0004VI-I8; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:12:34 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gb1fN-0004V9-1A for ipcdn@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:12:33 -0400 Received: from ondar.cablelabs.com ([192.160.73.61]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gb1fL-0003Dm-MR for ipcdn@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:12:33 -0400 Received: from srvxchg.cablelabs.com (srvxchg.cablelabs.com [10.5.0.20]) by ondar.cablelabs.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k9KLCT5h005543; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:12:29 -0600 (MDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:12:28 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: R5 cadence description Thread-Index: Acb0bpGvKrIGIgRFSv2Crdl3S29vzwACLK0QAATzEfAAAFGPkA== From: "Sumanth Channabasappa" To: "Satish Kumar at Texas Instruments" , "Eugene Nechamkin" , "Ipcdn (E-mail)" X-Approved: ondar X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c3a18ef96977fc9bcc21a621cbf1174b Cc: Freyman Phillip-FPF300 Subject: [ipcdn] RE: R5 cadence description X-BeenThere: ipcdn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IP over Cable Data Network List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ipcdn-bounces@ietf.org Satish, IMHO, unless there is a good technical reason, it would be beyond the scope of the IPCDN WG. - S=20 -----Original Message----- From: Satish Kumar at Texas Instruments=20 Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:05 PM To: Eugene Nechamkin; Sumanth Channabasappa; Ipcdn (E-mail) Cc: Freyman Phillip-FPF300 Subject: RE: R5 cadence description Hi Eugene, PacketCable NCS spec is closed, and changes will be considered only if very critical and field impacting. Having said that atleast we can fix the draft before it becomes RFC. If we leave it as is RFC and NCS spec both are broken. Hence I strongly recommend to fix in MIB description. Thx, Satish -----Original Message----- From: Eugene Nechamkin [mailto:enechamkin@broadcom.com] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 12:52 PM To: Kumar, Satish; Sumanth Channabasappa; Ipcdn (E-mail) Cc: Freyman Phillip-FPF300 Subject: RE: R5 cadence description Satish, The current definition of the PktcRingCadence TC allows for the full range of signaling patterns, both - repeatable and non-repeatable. All MIB Objects using the PktcRingCadence TC, are consistently defined in the MIB draft, and I am not sure if there is any need of making an exception for the pktcSigDevR5Cadence MIB object. While I agree that pktcSigDevR5Cadence can have some clarifying statements, I think they belong to the particular implementation spec (e.g. NCS Specification). Regards, Eugene. =20 -----Original Message----- From: Kumar, Satish [mailto:satish.kumar@ti.com] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:39 AM To: Sumanth Channabasappa; Ipcdn (E-mail) Cc: Eugene Nechamkin; Freyman Phillip-FPF300 Subject: R5 cadence description Hi, R5 cadence is a non-repeatable cadence. From NCS spec L package it does not hint so. I would like to add the current modification to MIB in description text. Current text: pktcSigDevR5Cadence OBJECT-TYPE =20 SYNTAX PktcRingCadence =20 MAX-ACCESS read-write =20 STATUS current =20 DESCRIPTION =20 " This object specifies ring cadence 5 (a user defined=20 field). This object is required for the L line package."=20 ::=3D { pktcSigDevConfigObjects 10 } Proposed text: pktcSigDevR5Cadence OBJECT-TYPE =20 SYNTAX PktcRingCadence =20 MAX-ACCESS read-write =20 STATUS current =20 DESCRIPTION =20 " This object specifies ring cadence 5 (a user defined=20 field). This object is required for the L line package. This is a non repeatable cadence."=20 ::=3D { pktcSigDevConfigObjects 10 } Comments please.. 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