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Hattie Yuan Sales Specialist HY Technologies Limited Rm1405, Nanguangjiejia Bldg, #3037 Shennanzhong Rd., Shenzhen, Guangdong,P.R.China E-mail: sales_hy@163.com sales1@szhy.net sales2@szhy.net sales3@szhy.net homepage:http://www.szhy.net _______________________________________________ IMRG mailing list IMRG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imrg From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed May 7 20:54:20 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA25712 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 20:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4813XK10779 for imrg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 7 May 2003 21:03:33 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4813X810776 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 21:03:33 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA25670 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 20:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DZhS-0006dI-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 20:55:54 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DZhR-0006dF-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 20:55:53 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h480vB810443; Wed, 7 May 2003 20:57:11 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h480uc810407 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 20:56:38 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA25523 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 20:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DZak-0006b1-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 20:48:58 -0400 Received: from [218.17.65.128] (helo=21cn.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DZai-0006am-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 20:48:57 -0400 From: "Hattie Yuan" To: imrg@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset="GB2312" Reply-To: hattieyuan@21cn.com Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 08:48:57 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: X-Warning: 218.17.65.128 is a known spammer listed at sbl.spamhaus.org Subject: [IMRG] Cheap and good mp3 player,U disk, digital camera and cd/vcd/mp3(3 in 1)! 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Hattie Yuan Sales Specialist HY Technologies Limited Rm1405, Nanguangjiejia Bldg, #3037 Shennanzhong Rd., Shenzhen, Guangdong,P.R.China E-mail: sales_hy@163.com sales1@szhy.net sales2@szhy.net sales3@szhy.net homepage:http://www.szhy.net _______________________________________________ IMRG mailing list IMRG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imrg From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed May 7 22:03:37 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA27232 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h482CpO16191 for imrg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:12:51 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h482Cp816188 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:12:51 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA27178 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DamU-0006yI-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 22:05:10 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DamU-0006yF-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 22:05:10 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4827G815513; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:07:16 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4826W815111 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:06:32 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA27054 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 21:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DagN-0006wJ-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 21:58:51 -0400 Received: from [218.17.65.128] (helo=163.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DagL-0006wF-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 21:58:50 -0400 From: "Hattie Yuan" To: imrg@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset="GB2312" Reply-To: frankhe1978@163.com Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 09:58:51 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Message-Id: X-Warning: 218.17.65.128 is a known spammer listed at sbl.spamhaus.org Subject: [IMRG] Cheap and good mp3 player,U disk, digital camera and cd/vcd/mp3(3 in 1)! 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For more information about our products, please feel free to visit our web page at http://www.szhy.net If any products appeal to you, please kindly let me know. All our products have got CE approval. We set MOQ. If you need a few pcs as samples, the quotation is negotiable. Our delivery time is 10-15 days after receiving the payment by T/T. Sincerely hope to establish a prosperous business relationship with you in near future. 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Thu, 8 May 2003 10:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200305081421.KAA29000@guns.lerc.nasa.gov> To: imrg@ietf.org From: Mark Allman Reply-To: mallman@grc.nasa.gov Organization: BBN Technologies/NASA GRC Song-of-the-Day: Radio Gaga Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 10:21:35 -0400 Subject: [IMRG] mailing list administravia Sender: imrg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: imrg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: imrg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Measurement Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , I didn't realize that the IMRG list was open to posts from non-subscribers until it was pointed out to me just a moment ago. (I use a spam filter.) This is now fixed. I believe I can add folk to a list of approved posters if that becomes needed. But, before you request me to do so you should throw some measurement meat onto the list. allman -- Mark Allman -- BBN/NASA GRC -- http://roland.grc.nasa.gov/~mallman/ _______________________________________________ IMRG mailing list IMRG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imrg From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Thu May 8 14:11:22 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA02163 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h48IKud04655 for imrg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:20:56 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h48IKu804652 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:20:56 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA02119 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Dpt0-0004qA-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 14:12:54 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Dpt0-0004q7-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 14:12:54 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h48IKE804608; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:20:17 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h48IIS804494 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:18:28 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA02078 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Dpqc-0004p8-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 14:10:26 -0400 Received: from ip72.usw4.rb1.bel.nwlink.com ([209.20.232.72] helo=bels002.mediator.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Dpqc-0004os-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 14:10:26 -0400 Received: from bays02.mediator.com ([172.16.100.252]) by bels002.mediator.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Thu, 8 May 2003 11:10:49 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: [IMRG] pathrate & pathload Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 11:10:47 -0700 Message-ID: <30A6344AEBFC85429C30FF6C9C501CD11391D1@bays02.mediator.com> Thread-Topic: [IMRG] pathrate & pathload Thread-Index: AcL/pMCErXj1DZMqTa+ZVOvHHqvL2QVY3DRw From: "Gamze Seckin" To: "Constantine Dovrolis" , Cc: "Manish Jain" , "Ravi Shanker Prasad" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2003 18:10:49.0520 (UTC) FILETIME=[2795B300:01C3158D] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www1.ietf.org id h48IIS804495 Sender: imrg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: imrg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: imrg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Measurement Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Constantine, How well does pathload perform on highly asymmetric links (i.e. error rate) ? -gamze -----Original Message----- From: Constantine Dovrolis [mailto:dovrolis@cc.gatech.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:50 PM To: imrg@ietf.org Cc: Manish Jain; Ravi Shanker Prasad Subject: [IMRG] pathrate & pathload We would like to announce a new release of our bandwidth estimation tools: pathrate and pathload. Pathrate measures end-to-end capacity (aka bottleneck bandwidth), while Pathload measures end-to-end available bandwidth. Both tools are available at: http://www.pathrate.org The major differences in the new versions: Pathrate - 2.3.0 ---------------- * The tool has been also tested in Gigabit Ethernet paths. We added functionality to deal with interrupt coalescion at the receiver. * A "quick termination" mode (option -Q) was added for an estimate after just a few seconds. Useful for frequent light-weight measurements. * Support for netlogger output format. Pathload - 1.1.0 ---------------- * The previous version was able to measure available bandwidth only in the 2Mbps-120Mbps range. The latest version has been successfully tested in both low bandwidth paths (dial-up, DSL, cable modems), and in high bandwidth paths (OC-3, OC-12, GigEthernet). If the receiver does interrupt coalescion, the tool can only report a lower bound on the available bandwidth. * The tool can now automatically choose an appropriate bandwidth resolution (previously this was a user-specified parameter). * Support for netlogger output format. Enjoy, Constantinos, Manish, and Ravi. _______________________________________________ IMRG mailing list IMRG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imrg _______________________________________________ IMRG mailing list IMRG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imrg From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Fri May 9 10:04:46 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA16388 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h49EEiS10255 for imrg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:14:44 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h49EEi810252 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:14:44 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA16334 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19E8Vt-0004Xq-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 May 2003 10:06:17 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19E8Vt-0004Xm-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 09 May 2003 10:06:17 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h49EAp810079; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:10:51 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h499U8818840 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 05:30:08 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA10225 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 05:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19E44a-0002up-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Fri, 09 May 2003 05:21:48 -0400 Received: from tokyo.ccrle.nec.de ([195.37.70.2]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19E44Z-0002uI-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Fri, 09 May 2003 05:21:47 -0400 Received: from venus.office (venus.office [10.1.1.11]) by tokyo.ccrle.nec.de (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h499MDVI013932 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:22:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ccrle.nec.de (molina.office [10.1.1.126]) by venus.office (Postfix on SuSE Linux eMail Server 3.0) with ESMTP id 6F819EB91 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:14:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3EBB7346.6934C3EB@ccrle.nec.de> Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 11:22:14 +0200 From: Maurizio Molina X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: imrg@ietf.org Subject: [IMRG] flow sampling (or selection) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by tokyo.ccrle.nec.de id h499MDVI013932 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www1.ietf.org id h499U9818841 Sender: imrg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: imrg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: imrg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Measurement Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by www1.ietf.org id h49EAp810079 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www1.ietf.org id h49EEi810252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, As far as I know IPFIX deals with reporting per flow information, PSAMP with sampling and reporting per packet information, selected with some criteria. Has there in any of these groups (or elsewhere) been any discussion about FLOW sampling? I've seen papers about it, e.g. http://www.research.att.com/~duffield/pubs/DLT02-optimal.pdf and I wondered whether this IMRG is the right place to discuss about it. Regards, Maurizio -- _____________________________________________________________ NOTE: NEW ADDRESS EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 23rd 2002!!!! Kurfürsten-Anlage 36, 69115 Heidelberg phone/fax and e-mail did not change _____________________________________________________________ Maurizio Molina Senior Research Staff member Network Laboratories Heidelberg NEC Europe Ltd. Kurfuersten-Anlage 36, 69115 Heidelberg, Germany. Tel. (49)6221 90511-18 Fax: (49)6221 90511-55 e-mail: molina@ccrle.nec.de Web: www.ccrle.nec.de _______________________________________________ IMRG mailing list IMRG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imrg From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed May 14 09:49:10 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA17731 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4EDFgw14567 for imrg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:15:42 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4EDFgB14564 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:15:42 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA17710 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FweR-00060z-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:50:35 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FweQ-00060v-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:50:34 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4EDEVB14489; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:14:31 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4EDDtB14426 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:13:55 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA17659 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Fwci-00060I-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:48:48 -0400 Received: from web13409.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.172.17]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Fwch-00060B-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:48:48 -0400 Message-ID: <20030514134948.32318.qmail@web13409.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.95.33.22] by web13409.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 May 2003 15:49:48 CEST Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:49:48 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fehmi?= To: imrg@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: [IMRG] A loss generator tool Sender: imrg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: imrg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: imrg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Measurement Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by www1.ietf.org id h4EDEVB14489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www1.ietf.org id h4EDFgB14564 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I need a tool over linux for generating an artificial loss rate in the sender side of a Tcp connexion ,is there any known tool or simply a method to do such work. The objectif is to test a new tcp implementation in a lossy link ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ IMRG mailing list IMRG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imrg From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Fri May 30 09:50:11 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA07179 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:50:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4UDniM03794 for imrg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:49:44 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4UDniB03791 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:49:44 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA07143 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LkEi-0004cX-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:48:00 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LkEh-0004cT-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:47:59 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4UDn1B03762; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:49:01 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4UDjuB03624 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:45:56 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA07054 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LkB2-0004bD-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:44:12 -0400 Received: from seraph2.grc.nasa.gov ([128.156.10.11]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LkB1-0004ap-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:44:11 -0400 Received: from lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (lombok-fi.grc.nasa.gov [139.88.112.33]) by seraph2.grc.nasa.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02FC68A67 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lawyers.ir.bbn.com (tb2-73.grc.nasa.gov [139.88.2.73]) by lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (NASA GRC 8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4UDjEuW012624; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lawyers.ir.bbn.com (Postfix, from userid 9076) id C71D66B17A; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:29:52 -0400 (EDT) To: Maurizio Molina From: Mark Allman Reply-To: mallman@grc.nasa.gov Cc: imrg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IMRG] Flow sampling (or selection) In-Reply-To: <3ECB91D9.FBCEE210@ccrle.nec.de> Organization: BBN Technologies/NASA GRC Song-of-the-Day: Zombie Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:29:51 -0400 Message-Id: <20030530132952.C71D66B17A@lawyers.ir.bbn.com> Sender: imrg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: imrg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: imrg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Measurement Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , > As far as I know IPFIX deals with reporting per flow information, > PSAMP with sampling and reporting per packet information, selected > with some criteria. Has there in any of these groups (or > elsewhere) been any discussion about FLOW sampling? I've seen > papers about it, e.g. > > http://www.research.att.com/~duffield/pubs/DLT02-optimal.pdf > > and I wondered whether this IMRG is the right place to discuss > about it. Indeed this is the right place to discuss such things. allman -- Mark Allman -- BBN/NASA GRC -- http://roland.grc.nasa.gov/~mallman/ _______________________________________________ IMRG mailing list IMRG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imrg From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Fri May 30 09:51:18 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA07261 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h4UDoqm03886 for imrg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:50:52 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4UDoqB03883 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:50:52 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA07207 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LkFo-0004dT-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:49:08 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LkFn-0004dQ-00 for imrg-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:49:07 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4UDo2B03841; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:50:02 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4UDk0B03628 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:46:00 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA07058 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LkB6-0004bI-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:44:16 -0400 Received: from seraph2.grc.nasa.gov ([128.156.10.11]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LkB5-0004al-00 for imrg@ietf.org; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:44:16 -0400 Received: from lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (lombok-fi.grc.nasa.gov [139.88.112.33]) by seraph2.grc.nasa.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C0A68A4F for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lawyers.ir.bbn.com (tb2-73.grc.nasa.gov [139.88.2.73]) by lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (NASA GRC 8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4UDjEuW012620; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lawyers.ir.bbn.com (Postfix, from userid 9076) id AC9096B2B4; Fri, 30 May 2003 09:31:49 -0400 (EDT) To: =?iso-8859-1?q?haifa=20touati?= From: Mark Allman Reply-To: mallman@grc.nasa.gov Cc: imrg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IMRG] Collecting Congestion window and ssthresh traces In-Reply-To: <20030524141116.37849.qmail@web14103.mail.yahoo.com> Organization: BBN Technologies/NASA GRC Song-of-the-Day: Zombie Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:31:49 -0400 Message-Id: <20030530133149.AC9096B2B4@lawyers.ir.bbn.com> Sender: imrg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: imrg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: imrg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Measurement Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , > I want to collect tcp congestion window and threshold > fluctuations, Not exactly what you asked, but if you want to do some post-processing and can take a packet dump at the sender then you can use tcptrace (tcptrace.org) to explore the amount of outstanding data in the network at any one time (i.e., an approximation of the cwnd). allman -- Mark Allman -- BBN/NASA GRC -- http://roland.grc.nasa.gov/~mallman/ _______________________________________________ IMRG mailing list IMRG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/imrg From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Sat May 31 15:30:02 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA08363 for ; 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I am wondering if there is a tool (active or passive) that measures the bandwidth,one-way delay and loss along a link when a connection is established between two computers to transfer data,voice and video between them.I am aware of the existence of pathchar but it is too time-consuming as it is used to estimate per-hop bandwidth, delay, queue time drop rate,etc and I am not really interested in the per-hop metrics and i would just like the entire link metrics.Futhermore, I would like to know if there is any means to discover alternate routes on the internet between the two computers and perhaps reroute the packets along an alternate route that is less lossy/congested or perhaps offers better bandwidth than the default route.I am a novice in the area of internet measurements and would appreciate any help,pointers to documentation & links in this regard. Thanks a bunch --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. 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Hi all..
 
I am wondering if there is a tool (active or passive) that measures the bandwidth,one-way delay and loss along a link when a connection is established between two computers to transfer data,voice and video between them.
I am aware of the existence of pathchar but it is too time-consuming as it is used to estimate per-hop bandwidth, delay, queue time drop rate,etc and I am not really interested in the per-hop metrics and i would just like the entire link metrics.
Futhermore, I would like to know if there is any means to discover alternate routes on the internet between the two computers and perhaps reroute the packets along an alternate route that is less lossy/congested or perhaps offers better bandwidth than the default route.
I am a novice in the area of internet measurements and would appreciate any help,pointers to documentation & links in this regard.
 
Thanks a bunch

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To: "'Yeggy Easwaran'" , imrg@ietf.org Message-id: <2846497B437BF84BAD1A4CC407418D26028E4D19@exchange1.slac.stanford.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_uDA9Zey+S/BwXZc3v/LWUQ)" Sender: imrg-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: imrg-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: imrg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Internet Measurement Research Group List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --Boundary_(ID_uDA9Zey+S/BwXZc3v/LWUQ) Content-type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE You may want to look at pathrate (to measure path capacity, see http:= //www.cc.gatech.edu/fac/Constantinos.Dovrolis/pathrate_tutorial.html = ) and pathload to measure available bandwidth.(see http://www.= cc.gatech.edu/fac/Constantinos.Dovrolis/bw.html ). Also there is pathchirp (s= ee http://moat.nlanr.net/PAM2003/PAM2003papers/3824.pdf ). All of these use trains = of packets and look at the inter packet delays. They all require a cl= ient and server to be installed. To get one way delay usually means n= eeding a GPS at both ends. To get one way loss you may want to use st= ing (see http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/savage/sting/ ) it does not require a serve= r to be installed at the remote end. You can also use iperf (see http= ://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/ ) or netperf to measure TCP a= chievable bandwith. All the above are active tools. For passive too= ls you may be able to get access to a router (e.g. on your site or at= your boder) running netflow and this would give you the throughput o= f a flow, or you can use SNMP to read the MIBs and from utilization a= nd capacity can find available bandwidth. However, you may have diff= icultly getting the network folks to provide Netflow or SNMP access. -----Original Message----- =46rom: Yeggy Easwaran [mailto:yeggyb@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 12:23 PM To: imrg@ietf.org Subject: [IMRG] Measurement tool for bandwidth,one-way delay and loss= ? Hi all.. =20 I am wondering if there is a tool (active or passive) that measures t= he bandwidth,one-way delay and loss along a link when a connection is= established between two computers to transfer data,voice and video b= etween them. I am aware of the existence of pathchar but it is too time-consuming = as it is used to estimate per-hop bandwidth, delay, queue time drop r= ate,etc and I am not really interested in the per-hop metrics and i w= ould just like the entire link metrics. Futhermore, I would like to know if there is any means to discover al= ternate routes on the internet between the two computers and perhaps = reroute the packets along an alternate route that is less lossy/conge= sted or perhaps offers better bandwidth than the default route. I am a novice in the area of internet measurements and would apprecia= te any help,pointers to documentation & links in this regard. =20 Thanks a bunch _____ =20 Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.=20 --Boundary_(ID_uDA9Zey+S/BwXZc3v/LWUQ) Content-type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message
You may want to look at pathrate (to measure path capacity, see http://www.cc.gatech.edu/fac/Constantinos.Dovrolis/pathrate_tutorial.html) and pathload to measure available bandwidth.(see http://www.cc.gatech.edu/fac/Constantinos.Dovrolis/bw.html). Also there is pathchirp (see http://moat.nlanr.net/PAM2003/PAM2003papers/3824.pdf). All of these use trains of packets and look at the inter packet delays. They all require a client and server to be installed. To get one way delay usually means needing a GPS at both ends. To get one way loss you may want to use sting (see http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/savage/sting/) it does not require a server to be installed at the remote end. You can also use iperf (see http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/) or netperf to measure TCP achievable bandwith.  All the above are active tools.  For passive tools you may be able to get access to a router (e.g. on your site or at your boder) running netflow and this would give you the throughput of a flow, or you can use SNMP to read the MIBs and from utilization and capacity can find available bandwidth.  However, you may have difficultly getting the network folks to provide Netflow or SNMP access.
-----Original Message-----
From: Yeggy Easwaran [mailto:yeggyb@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 12:23 PM
To: imrg@ietf.org
Subject: [IMRG] Measurement tool for bandwidth,one-way delay and loss?

Hi all..
 
I am wondering if there is a tool (active or passive) that measures the bandwidth,one-way delay and loss along a link when a connection is established between two computers to transfer data,voice and video between them.
I am aware of the existence of pathchar but it is too time-consuming as it is used to estimate per-hop bandwidth, delay, queue time drop rate,etc and I am not really interested in the per-hop metrics and i would just like the entire link metrics.
Futhermore, I would like to know if there is any means to discover alternate routes on the internet between the two computers and perhaps reroute the packets along an alternate route that is less lossy/congested or perhaps offers better bandwidth than the default route.
I am a novice in the area of internet measurements and would appreciate any help,pointers to documentation & links in this regard.
 
Thanks a bunch

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