From nobody Thu Mar 1 04:44:13 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=5UPPCun7YUKBb4m1NQ8zI8Ujvhg=; b=q6bqDH652OZsjM8K X1e0mOBSYa41fPldn+A6y55D7cra6JSj6x5YpYOj6nMQWrSNCMfPJ3yx51sTzZfg Z6eECqsSqutpaFXX0JuDVzPca25hcVoszsaFWlSgfWxGXgEvkZU6M7C6IOnPg4l9 65LUkE3tSEnGh+0brMTT7awkVw4= Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 12:44:10 +0000 (UTC) To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed Subject: [httpwg/http-extensions] move acks to the end and make them unnumbered (#503) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5a97f59930a35_20f33ff811232f2875832"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 12:44:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5a97f59930a35_20f33ff811232f2875832 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/503 -- Commit Summary -- * move acks to the end and make them unnumbered -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-httpbis-cache-digest.md (14) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/503.patch https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/503.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/503 ----==_mimepart_5a97f59930a35_20f33ff811232f2875832 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-secondary-certs.md:

> @@ -470,6 +486,10 @@ authentication request identifier, `Request-ID`. A peer that receives a
 error of type `PROTOCOL_ERROR`. Frames with identical request
 identifiers refer to the same `CERTIFICATE_REQUEST`.
 
+The `CERTIFICATE_NEEDED` frame MUST NOT be sent by servers prior to seeing the
+end of the client's request, and then MUST NOT be sent if the client included a

That's a good point. The reason for that text is to ensure there's not a race, so the server doesn't send in ignorance of whether the client already included one. (And therefore, doesn't get either side confused about whether the USE_CERTIFICATE is in response to the server's CERTIFICATE_REQUIRED.)

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@bsdphk said: "Does step 3 & 4 need to say something explicit about failing if they get "22-22-22-22" as input ?"

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Kari points out on list:

  1. Parsing Text into Structured Headers
Given an ASCII string input_string that represents the chosen
header's field-value, return the parsed header value.  When
generating input_string, parsers MUST combine all instances of the
target header field into one comma-separated field-value, as per
[RFC7230], Section 3.2.2; this assures that the header is processed
correctly.

Note that in the case of lists, parameterised lists and dictionaries,
this has the effect of coalescing all of the values for that field.
However, for singular items, parsing will fail if more than instance
of that header field is present.

I think that this is not true for a String, if header field is mailformed
enough.

Consider following

Foo: "xxss
Foo: xxxx"

This gives

Foo: "xxss,xxxx"

This passes

4.7.1. Parsing a String from Text

4.7. Strings

 string    = DQUOTE 0*1024(char) DQUOTE
 char      = unescaped / escape ( DQUOTE / "\" )
 unescaped = %x20-21 / %x23-5B / %x5D-7E
 escape    = "\"

Comma is allowed here as unescaped.

Other singular items does not allow comma, so combining causes parse error.

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We've designed structured headers so that it's easy to deterministically parse a given header into the appropriate data types.

However, it seems like there's likely to be ambiguity about taking a given data structure in common programming languages and creating the correct data types, without a significant amount of metatdata.

While most languages can distinguish floats from integers, as well as binary content from other content, identifiers are a strict subset of strings.

For example, if a value is "foo", and I need to serialise it as an Item, I have no idea whether it should be:

ExampleHeader: foo

or

ExampleHeader: "foo"

without extra metadata. Same problem where items can appear inside lists, dict values, etc.

One way to address this would be to remove identifiers from items.

Thoughts?

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I'm not sure I understand the problem ?

You need to know the specification for the header to produce it correctl= y, and that will tell you if you are supposed to produce an identifier or a= string ?

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In draft-ietf-httpbis-rand-access-live.xml:

> @@ -463,6 +464,16 @@ Content-Range: bytes 1020000-1254567/*
       <t>
         from the server to indicate that the response will start at byte 1020000, end at byte 1254567, and will not include any aggregated content. This is the response expected from a typical HTTP server - one that doesn't support byte-range requests on aggregating content.
       </t>
+      <t>
+          Note that responses to GET requests against shift-buffer representations using Range 
+          can be cached by intermediaries, since the Content-Range response header indicates 
+          which portion of the representation is being returned in the response body. However 
+          GET requests without a Range header cannot be cached since the first byte of the response

either that or the resource provided might be identified differently

that is, if the start of /live moves by 10M, then you might redirect to /live+10M, all assuming that the redirect works (content-location isn't especially nice for this because it isn't any more cacheable

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In draft-ietf-httpbis-rand-access-live.xml:

> @@ -463,6 +464,16 @@ Content-Range: bytes 1020000-1254567/*
       <t>
         from the server to indicate that the response will start at byte 1020000, end at byte 1254567, and will not include any aggregated content. This is the response expected from a typical HTTP server - one that doesn't support byte-range requests on aggregating content.
       </t>
+      <t>
+          Note that responses to GET requests against shift-buffer representations using Range 
+          can be cached by intermediaries, since the Content-Range response header indicates 
+          which portion of the representation is being returned in the response body. However 
+          GET requests without a Range header cannot be cached since the first byte of the response

Interesting idea @martinthomson. I'll see if I can reword to not preclude this option.

So guess I need to sprinkle in "successful responses" on both of these sentences and maybe include redirect as an example.

I'll revise tonight. Thx!

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So...

A list-of-identifiers (e.g. Vary) becomes a param-list (wit= h the "no parameters" profile)?

A single identifier (e.g. Content-Encoding) becomes param-l= ist (with the "only one item", and "no parameters" profiles)??

Amusingly, the one example in the draft for list is a list of i= dentifiers, which suggests that that's the most useful type of list. Which= in turn suggests making a new first class "list-of-identifiers" type.

The set of types starts to look a bit .. um.. :

  • list of {identifier =3D> identifier} pairs
  • list of {identifier =3D> other primitive scalar} pairs
  • parameterised list of identifiers *
  • list of identifiers
  • list of other primitive scalars
  • identifier
  • other primitive scalar

* this is actually more complicated, because of foo;bar=3Dbaz vs foo;bar=3D"baz"

I can kind of see how we're getting here, but it seems like maybe you've= opened up a tiny little crack which might make the whole thing fall apart.=

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While most languages can distinguish floats from integers, as well as binary content from other content ...

Wait, can they? How would my API to know whether to generate "hel= lo" or *aGVsbG8=3D*? What you say only works if those = two values are completely interchangeable, which means they're the same dat= a type. But that's not stated (or even implied) in the current text.

In Ruby there are String and Symbol objects, which means it's actually <= em>easier for my Ruby API to choose between strings vs identifiers tha= n strings vs binary content.

Maybe the extra metadata is the way to go. We already have those in eve= ry other serialisation library in existence (e.g. PHP json_deco= de's assoc parameter, Ruby's= JSON opts, etc.) so it's not something completely foreign to developer= s.

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Hm. In Python3, I have b"..." for binary. Ruby has stringio= objects. JS has Blob. I think binary is pretty well-covered and n= atural in most languages (even if it requires a wrapper object, that is "th= e" way it's done in that language).

It's much less clear to me that there's always such a natural mapping fo= r identifiers. It's true that a library could define a wrapper object for t= hem; I just wonder if it would end up being confusing to use (because it's = not the natural convention for that language).

E.g., in Python, I don't think there's a natural mapping, so my library = would have to define an Identifier object that would need to be consistentl= y used in all data to/from headers. That object would become a dependency f= or all code that works with that header.

Not sure that's a big deal, just working through it.

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Oh, I didn't know Python 3 had separated serialisation from strings and = exposed 'bytes' as its own type.
That's cool. In Ruby a String is always a String, even if you access it us= ing StringIO*; and a string with .encoding =3D=3D Encoding::ASCII_8B= IT isn't special in any way.

But yeah, my big hangup is that param_id has [ "=3D" = item ] in its definition. That's the one place, in all the potentia= l header definitions, where I can see a strong argument for allowing mixed = strings and identifiers in the same context. Which means even if you were = to carve identifier out of item, you'd probably have to e= xpand the param_id rule to bring it back in there, which means a generic en= coder would still need that extra metadata to know whether to write = =3D"foo" or =3Dfoo

(* but you can use bytes/each_byte or unpack to get the octet values out)

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Right. In a perfect world, we could map native datatypes 1:1 with header= datatypes, but as a stopgap, we can use objects (whether they're provided = by the language like StringIO or by the header mapping itself)= . I still think it would be cool if we could minimise that.

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Yes. If we don't allow identifiers in types, it'd have to be serialised as:

Content-Type: text/html;charset="utf-8"

... if it was a parameterised list.

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Aye, so, given that content-type is never ever going to have a different= serialisation, if the eventual goal of this structure isn't to conquer the= world (of existing headers) then there's no problem.

Also, it fits nicely with some of my more radical ideology to never use = an identifier on the right of an equals sign.

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----==_mimepart_5aabd552539d5_4a522abb41c9aec488332-- From nobody Fri Mar 16 07:40:16 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 07:40:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1521211212; bh=iOQArCODO0omrbHhzR3bmsnVayTmpEPdOXu+zo1SZ+E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=B2ylvxKYWwsO0xeRUoNsRwzO04f/4jpVOltdrccNsim8eI3+78yfY+jOTmesEKr43 myxJv5hSs45OB8NDaD77dHKNtjr7yhmvPnrL1z0F+/bLUpo8WAoTziJh8F01blyaOx KamuFGwiuj+9V8XgrFxNtZ5qqIrSj/uT8jggSj4o= To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed Subject: [httpwg/http-extensions] avoid markdown syntax in spec text examples (#509) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aabd74c8a509_22b72aced9a58ed021911c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 14:40:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aabd74c8a509_22b72aced9a58ed021911c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (this change will be in conflict with the JSON reference update though) You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/509 -- Commit Summary -- * avoid markdown syntax in spec text examples -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-httpbis-bcp56bis.md (7) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/509.patch https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/509.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/509 ----==_mimepart_5aabd74c8a509_22b72aced9a58ed021911c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

(this change will be in conflict with the JSON reference update though)

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"Unmodified Web browsers will not support the new scheme. While it is possible to register new URL schemes with Web browsers (e.g. registerProtocolHandler() in [HTML5] Section 8.7.1.3, as well as several proprietary approaches), support for these mechanisms is not shared by all browsers, and their capabilities vary."

As HTML5 refers to the "living spec", the section number reference might be instable. Either use s stable version (W3C?), or rephrase the reference (potentially by just dropping the section number, or by directly linking to https://html.spec.whatwg.org/#custom-handlers)

Also, in any case, please insert a comma between reference and "Section...".

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FWIW, it might also be good not to have kramdown-specific syntax here...

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The spec currently cites both FETCH and the W3C CORS spec for CORS. One should be sufficient.

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Mention obsoletion in the abstract, tune section title in appendix, and actually cite RFC 3205.

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Merged #507.

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In draft-ietf-httpbis-bcp56bis.md:

> @@ -239,7 +239,7 @@ their task cannot be completed).
 
 For example, an application can specify that it uses HTTP like this:
 
-    Foo Application uses HTTP {{!RFC7230}}. Implementations MUST support
+    Foo Application uses HTTP [RFC7230]. Implementations MUST support

If the intent is to avoid creating a reference, then you want \[RFC7230]. Functionally, this isn't a change at all.

BTW, if the intent is to blockquote this section, it should use > Foo Application [...].

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@reschke commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-httpbis-bcp56bis.md:

> @@ -239,7 +239,7 @@ their task cannot be completed).
 
 For example, an application can specify that it uses HTTP like this:
 
-    Foo Application uses HTTP {{!RFC7230}}. Implementations MUST support
+    Foo Application uses HTTP [RFC7230]. Implementations MUST support

The intent was to present text that matches what you see in a published RFC.

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Having ETags as part of the digest key adds a lot of complexity to the Cache Digest implementation both on the client and the server:

  • Clients may not have the ETag readily available at removal time, which would mean removal from the digest introduces I/O operations and slowness.
  • Servers may not have the ETag readily available when they want to send down push promises, forcing them to make those conditional on I/O operations (and again, slowness).

I ran an HTTPArchive analysis and it seems that from the render-critical resources that are push candidates, 77.26% of them are cacheable for at least 24 hours.
Same query with 30 days minimal freshness gives us 52.32% of the resources.

So it seems that servers can in many cases have enough render-critical resources to push even without the ETag info.
Therefore I suggest removing it, to simplify implementations. If we'd see that it becomes an issue in the future, we could add it back as optional.

Thoughts?

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Closes #516

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FWIW, the ABNF below would work:


dictionary        =3D dictionary-member 0*1023( OWS "," OWS dictionary-me=
mber )
dictionary-member =3D identifier "=3D" item

list =3D list-member 0*1023( OWS "," OWS list-member )
list-member =3D item

param-list =3D param-id 0*255( OWS "," OWS param-id )
param-id   =3D identifier 0*256( OWS ";" OWS identifier [ "=3D" item ] )

item =3D integer / float / string / identifier / binary

integer   =3D ["-"] 1*19DIGIT

float    =3D ["-"] (
             DIGIT "." 1*14DIGIT /
            2DIGIT "." 1*13DIGIT /
            3DIGIT "." 1*12DIGIT /
            4DIGIT "." 1*11DIGIT /
            5DIGIT "." 1*10DIGIT /
            6DIGIT "." 1*9DIGIT /
            7DIGIT "." 1*8DIGIT /
            8DIGIT "." 1*7DIGIT /
            9DIGIT "." 1*6DIGIT /
           10DIGIT "." 1*5DIGIT /
           11DIGIT "." 1*4DIGIT /
           12DIGIT "." 1*3DIGIT /
           13DIGIT "." 1*2DIGIT /
           14DIGIT "." 1DIGIT )

string    =3D DQUOTE 0*1024(character) DQUOTE
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  • fix ABNF (see #520)

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So it seems that servers can in many cases have enough render-critical r= esources to push even without the ETag info.

I agree.

Note also that it is difficult to use a digest of freshly cached respons= es that uses ETag due to lack of agreement on if we can push a response to = replace a freshly cached object within the client's cache. See the chart on= https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeti= ng/101/materials/slides-101-httpbis-cache-digest-00 page 7.

Therefore I suggest removing it, to simplify implementations. If we'd se= e that it becomes an issue in the future, we could add it back as optional.=

The reason we allow the use of ETag is to support sending a digest of st= ale responses. When a server receives a digest of stale responses, a server= needs to decide if it pushes a 200 or "not modified", based on the value o= f ETag.

In other words, removal of ETag support needs to come along with removin= g support for stale digests. That said, I do not oppose to removing them al= together (means that we will only allow sending a digest of freshly-cached = responses that uses HASH(URL) as the key), considering the fact that how to= push a "not modified" signal is not something that the community has agree= d.

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ORIGIN removed the need for DNS lookups for servers, and IP connectivity. Servers can look for bad DNS records or BGP hijacking to detect attacks without ORIGIN, but now those techniques don't work. In particular, key compromise is a concern; misissuance is perhaps less of a concern.

Secondary certificates makes the entire situation worse.

In particular, it means that you can get a standalone certificate for the victim. Previously, with coalescing, you would need to have a certificate that has both your own origin and the victim's origin, so that would be visible in a CT log.

Subcerts can help with this (they have much shorter lifetimes).

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What do you do? What certificates apply to these? Are the connections independent.

What if these are resumptions? What from the previous connection do you use in that context?

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From Kyle N: We could annotate the certificate to enable opt-in.

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It looks like the network information hints (Downlink) were removed, but there are still a couple references to network information, particularly in security considerations discussion, since there were security/privacy issues related to exposing network information through this. Should we just remove those references to network information?

(Save-Data is potentially network-related, but I'm less concerned about that as a network information property that users might not realize is being disclosed.)

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I'm confused by this text, given my understanding of the resolution of= this issue:

Implementers SHOULD restrict delivery of some or all Client Hints
header fields to the opt-in origin only, unless the opt-in origin
has explicitly delegated permission to another origin to request
Client Hints header fields.

Why SHOULD and not MUST? Why the qualification of "some or all"? If ex= plicit delegation of permission is required (through feature policy or so= me other means), shouldn't we just say so? Also, would it help to cite Fe= ature Policy explicitly?

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The security issues motivating CSP Cookie Controls (https://www.w3.org/TR/csp-cookies/) still exist. We at a minimum we should list this as a security consideration. In particular, an origin is unable to restrict non-HTTP APIs from setting cookies on a host or domain. While perhaps this is a nice-to-have for hosts (APIs operating in the origin context can do lots of other things), it is a major problem unique to cookies for domains.

A multi-tenant domain (with independent origins under it) has no in-band way to prevent cookies from being set on the entire domain (ie, to restrict cookies to same-site). The only option available there is to put the domain on a public-suffix list which isn't always scale-able or operationally maintainable.

It may also be worth considering a response header that servers could send to constrain all cookies to same-site as part of this, either with "Content-Security-Policy: cookie-scope host" or as a separate response header specific to this use-case. For example, a "Restrict-Cookies" response header with tokens matching the new features of 6265bis (same-site, secure-only, none) that would constrain behaviors of non-HTTP APIs.

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Draft currently says:

As a result, clients MUST NOT assume that because one origin was previ= ously colocated with another, those origins will be reachable via the sam= e endpoints in the future. Clients MUST NOT consider previous secondary c= ertificates to be validated after TLS session resumption. However, client= s MAY proactively query for previously-presented secondary certificates.<= /p>

While that was originally talking about future session resumption, I t= hink it's equally applicable to parallel connections. The only certifica= te that applies to a connection when it begins is the one proven in TLS. = Anything else has to be bound to that specific connection. You can reme= mber interesting things you want to send a request for, but you can't ass= ume.

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Aligns with other SETTINGS parameter names defined in other docs.

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Commit Summary

  • Add SETTINGS_ prefix to parameter names

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Ahh yes, that seems totally adequate (I was just trying to capture concerns that I heard during the meeting). Closing.

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discussed in london/101 and decided to not make a change

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Closed #471.

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4.9 rightfully discourages digest and basic on "http" scheme.. but is "scheme" the right scope, or should that be language about secure transports (as http can of course carry a variety of schemes).

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Applications MUST NOT make assumptions about the relationship between
separate requests on a single transport connection; doing so breaks
many of the assumptions of HTTP as a stateless protocol, and will
cause problems in interoperability, security, operability and
evolution.

good paragraph! But I think it deserves its own headline instead of being mushed in with authentication (which is just one related subset of the problem).

It would be good to also point out that HTTP isn't a reliable messaging protocol -> ATLS is currently confused about that.

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You should use FETCH.

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DOH ran into it.

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Talk about the pitfalls, mitigations

e.g., doh

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@ylafon= yes, that's the intent. However if I could give feedback to the W3C, Fetch= is effectively an implementer's recipe; it's horribly impenetrable for peo= ple who just want to understand what's happening. It would be extremely val= uable if WebAppSec would publish CORS for Developers or similar,= so we could use it as a reference.

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Sounds good, thanks for bringing this up to the forum!

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Though, reading IETF101 meeting notes<= /a> (sorry for missing it!), it seems that discussion was around using ALPN= for negotiating WebSocket-over-HTTP/2 and not about :protocol= values.

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@PiotrSikora, those are the same topic. Th= e :protocol extension to CONNECT was defined for the primary p= urpose of using WebSockets over an HTTP/2 stream; it just happens to be a g= eneral-purpose mechanism we can use for other things too. And I think the = Upgrade registry, being an existing registry which contains protocols that = HTTP can upgrade to is probably the right choice when defining a new sort o= f upgrade within HTTP.

However, if we were redefining the Upgrade registry now, I'd argue for u= sing the ALPN registry for both of these. Fundamentally, they are both reg= istries of tokens which identify an application-layer protocol which can ru= n over a bytestream. (Or collection of bytestreams, when used with QUIC.) = The only real restriction is that Upgrade requires that the protocol be ab= le to answer the original HTTP request in the new protocol, which means the= re has to be a defined mapping between HTTP requests and whatever the new p= rotocol is.

The currently-registered values are disjoint, but I wonder if perhaps HT= TPter should consider merging the two registries?

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Since be5ab4c required it.

I'd probably have kept padding forbidden to save a couple bytes here and there, and made Python folks append the right number of =s, but whatever.

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  • Use the right amount of base64 padding in binary content examples.

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Merged #531.

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Yep, that makes sense! Assigning to myself.

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@reschke apologies missed this PR! LGTM and thank you.

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Merged #488.

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----==_mimepart_5ab9952eaed39_4e3f2aeb20fecec49347d-- From nobody Mon Mar 26 17:52:36 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.392 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.392 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:52:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522111953; bh=y95ME5+jYn9Vg+WxYzuFVp6z1bNoq2UejEx79hJY46I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xqdMFaB6e27YLKEGfg8rHwEt58gvsTh9MIUz6Q13ekzEYvGszZwL+SywvIvt1cz5E zl4wPAVL3lTgqVeQzRSxjShp1kA5GFv0rCHGxQ0w9adcQ4bOhIZlC679pkZofWkwv8 3a78Hs+20Xhy9WwevF59X2zMJmAckEVU/6JcGQ3o= To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] Accept-CH-Lifetime privacy concerns (#372) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ab995d13c145_f572ad116aaaed07189e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 00:52:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ab995d13c145_f572ad116aaaed07189e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think we can or should assume that the only "client" for CH is a browser. I may be building a (native) app that's not subject to this and hence SHOULD. Does that sound reasonable? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/372#issuecomment-376359338 ----==_mimepart_5ab995d13c145_f572ad116aaaed07189e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't think we can or should assume that the only "client" for CH is a browser. I may be building a (native) app that's not subject to this and hence SHOULD. Does that sound reasonable?

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one thing that came up at the WHATWG Bar BoF was the possibility of referencing Fetch as one way to specify how a client should behave.

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Merged #521.

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Thanks!

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Closed #520.

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"foo" MUST be between 0 and 10, inclusive; other values MUST be ignored.

It seems you want to say that other values MUST cause the header to be ignored?

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If a member of barURLs is not a valid URI-reference, it MUST be ignored.

Same goes for this (although I'll note that browsers have no such algorithm).

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----==_mimepart_5aba276bb88d2_7f013fe61fefcf281322af-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 04:20:21 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=0YplKr1hoAK/Nc065xp8INdyc8w=; b=Jlm0o9OJgEWcIVDp P3EIZThnFUgGE5AW1XDnOgJkTohrTb6fnq7WxupPX9aloifTbr8VfZuMJLytf9yw CVaQZwR7AV2VBANq/46iG4ISoJo9eCL8jxAZ/cf2vcqjQfvc5A0aewQvCCf0EVrj zU9vSeToGoNcAJyBEwKY45Xnn3k= Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:20:19 +0000 (UTC) To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed Subject: [httpwg/http-extensions] Parsing Text into Structured Headers (#534) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aba28f378b6_582a2abd3c9d0ed019269"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:20:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aba28f378b6_582a2abd3c9d0ed019269 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The text makes it appear as if this algorithm takes a header value, but then it branches on arguments not explicitly given. It would be better if the algorithm stated upfront that you need to have (side channel) knowledge about the header to get a structured representation about it. (This is also what I dislike about this proposal. That it requires knowledge about the header names to do something useful. That doesn't work well for generic processors or APIs.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/534 ----==_mimepart_5aba28f378b6_582a2abd3c9d0ed019269 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The text makes it appear as if this algorithm takes a header value, but then it branches on arguments not explicitly given. It would be better if the algorithm stated upfront that you need to have (side channel) knowledge about the header to get a structured representation about it.

(This is also what I dislike about this proposal. That it requires knowledge about the header names to do something useful. That doesn't work well for generic processors or APIs.)

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Step 2.1 (and generally any sub-invocations) doesn't deal with failure.

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----==_mimepart_5aba29b67c13c_5cf13fb202626f302777b1-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 05:30:55 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=EEhN/zQkMI0EAJMA9I9PM3XSSZc=; b=Pijt6lpP7iCdW+zd q+1+TeRTAvM2PCYZyPng8qI3disSEHvDVfo02KdsH2ODEs70W+5VQzrh7LlhJquL SpPZUojBtrHQ7PaShBhoM05TDIVXtqJAqlEYCPPOh1faA7STuKJ84e2tSzK2HwE2 iLMHkIlYSeIWaxjLhgtTldDgnIY= Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 12:30:49 +0000 (UTC) To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] bcp56bis: CORS reference (#513) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aba3979bb72b_17e03fd6b1702f3482486"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 12:30:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aba3979bb72b_17e03fd6b1702f3482486 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it? I've pointed folks to https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#http-cors-protocol before on Stack Overflow and to the extent I got feedback on that it's been fairly positive. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/513#issuecomment-376507152 ----==_mimepart_5aba3979bb72b_17e03fd6b1702f3482486 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Is it? I've pointed folks to https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#http-cors-protocol before on Stack Overflow and to the extent I got feedback on that it's been fairly positive.

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----==_mimepart_5aba3979bb72b_17e03fd6b1702f3482486-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 05:34:05 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=zw+5DqP2WPz4fdBU2jo4MPSHoNk=; b=sTWAB4vt7jUCvBQL yh1cnjZqvHRH9EZa8CMMNAstBwvSBcyClXRt6zEGXRGx0nFpmPhMZ9dLLb/+xZUF +hTS+ak7gRYZYBCrtRcpFEF8mucGrtM4zIFpbjURn+OGQfP/eDFJH5bL+sDpSDTQ 9B6NPocpdP5pmu9b/R1IPFhdFng= Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 12:34:00 +0000 (UTC) To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] One repo per extension? (#219) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aba3a383f7f9_4ecc2adaab1b6ed4759df"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 12:34:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aba3a383f7f9_4ecc2adaab1b6ed4759df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I still think this would be good. Perhaps require it for new proposals as a start? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/219#issuecomment-376507984 ----==_mimepart_5aba3a383f7f9_4ecc2adaab1b6ed4759df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I still think this would be good. Perhaps require it for new proposals as a start?

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----==_mimepart_5aba3a383f7f9_4ecc2adaab1b6ed4759df-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 06:31:00 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 06:30:55 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522157455; bh=u0LXg6tvalJdRhrZQAEv6aFoXsKp9J7+f1dRJxfacmQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fEj1N8lWjV9fT2r4L+ejUDNzu4qSHPtTDBbYvULf/vLhBQNvz7THmQ6keP4N7wBqR GgUNoIf5jH8khTKq3ueQoMKMK14DCWVBFQB7iiCqwKunc5U3PxD0B3YcWOK7wF2fhU 8Rq1dnvud/MP+1IZAevb1LWfJV9Mjnx2pyQn64CA= To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed Subject: [httpwg/http-extensions] "confused deputy" (#536) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5aba478f795c2_12072b192ccb0ec4514f4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 13:30:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5aba478f795c2_12072b192ccb0ec4514f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > to avoid the "confused deputy" problem No, it's to avoid leaking private information. Servers can still be susceptible to the confused deputy problem with CORS. They need to address that independently. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/536 ----==_mimepart_5aba478f795c2_12072b192ccb0ec4514f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

to avoid the "confused deputy" problem

No, it's to avoid leaking private information. Servers can still be susceptible to the confused deputy problem with CORS. They need to address that independently.

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(This was about https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-bcp56bis-02. Well, -00, but the latest contains the same problem elsewhere.)

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----==_mimepart_5aba47c8eb6e_1cc53ff340d04f30104635-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 22:11:45 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.607 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.607 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 22:11:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522213900; bh=lKcV7n0nmQ421gdcmtiMm09xyTVvdbSphP8w3RNaKko=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QHlV0CchKVCSaUjTqnCYfdJurYdNTrFNxlbrER5XDdibpOIrzbXKuIjG2jl0FI5GG r9gStIyE/WsSW72mt4WZJ4PhmWEG6G9zsM38HtlrDAaPNIzzLpgLP39mZSF9mDNXAD nAemkQvb5luF7NpPU0nEGKki7Ep5/c+CPzn0IKH4= To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed Subject: [httpwg/http-extensions] structured-headers: Why ignore UTF-8? (#537) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abb240c79893_75112abb40a20ec4118683"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 05:11:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abb240c79893_75112abb40a20ec4118683 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed the structured headers proposal strictly ignores UTF-8, because it's not used much. The recommendation is to use the binary format instead. I thought that [RFC8187](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8187) was fairly good for this. I can see structured-headers to be a super useful generic way to describe new standard and proprietary headers, but ignoring UTF-8 means we're limited in what categories of data probably unsafe for the purpose of a header. Is there a possibility to merge the syntax of RFC8187? It's true that it might not be used as much in practice, but it might expand the potential use-cases. Furthermore, as an implementor I don't have to worry about what someone might encode. The binary format doesn't quite cut it, because it provides to hint as to how a generic client might decode it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/537 ----==_mimepart_5abb240c79893_75112abb40a20ec4118683 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I noticed the structured headers proposal strictly ignores UTF-8, because it's not used much. The recommendation is to use the binary format instead.

I thought that RFC8187 was fairly good for this.

I can see structured-headers to be a super useful generic way to describe new standard and proprietary headers, but ignoring UTF-8 means we're limited in what categories of data probably unsafe for the purpose of a header.

Is there a possibility to merge the syntax of RFC8187? It's true that it might not be used as much in practice, but it might expand the potential use-cases. Furthermore, as an implementor I don't have to worry about what someone might encode. The binary format doesn't quite cut it, because it provides to hint as to how a generic client might decode it.

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----==_mimepart_5abb240c79893_75112abb40a20ec4118683-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 22:15:27 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 22:15:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522214123; bh=XhbTdqXj8JyA/3vbWcTT8eJOvC9CC2UE+WDdPndl68o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UniI9MCsdMe+VJLeMKNCztVSNrcpuIbWK6lbqAZFW4B1BEPTNZAabZD1WfgIZiIY3 nCESqpuwW/zyzPiCNf1wRv2pwEBze68G+XgVeeBukcgBzUruoQyAhlcLz5iYiBq90N GxXLGQYHn5mWx0yntGEJuF1ORnxlGMlQPbog2lP4= To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed Subject: [httpwg/http-extensions] structured-headers: Has JSON been considered? (#538) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abb24ebe4b84_5b3d2ad824eceed414065c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 05:15:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abb24ebe4b84_5b3d2ad824eceed414065c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a question I got after publishing a first stab at [an implementation](http://github.com/evert/structured-header/). Was JSON considered as an alternative for this? At least some reasons why I can think of why it wouldn't be good are: * It doesn't encode binary data * It's not as aesthetically pleasing, especially considering how HTTP headers generally 'look'. However, parsers are everywhere and JSON has some properties that structured-headers doesn't have, such as deeper nesting, encoding `null` and it also solves #534 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/538 ----==_mimepart_5abb24ebe4b84_5b3d2ad824eceed414065c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This is a question I got after publishing a first stab at an implementation. Was JSON considered as an alternative for this?

At least some reasons why I can think of why it wouldn't be good are:

  • It doesn't encode binary data
  • It's not as aesthetically pleasing, especially considering how HTTP headers generally 'look'.

However, parsers are everywhere and JSON has some properties that structured-headers doesn't have, such as deeper nesting, encoding null and it also solves #534

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Yes - there's a long history behind that, and we originally had a JSON-b= ased approach.

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Thanks for the feedback. I'm gonna try to dig into the discussions

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This has been discussed a fair amount; non-ASCII payloads in headers is = pretty rare (since headers are generally not displayed to users).

You could encode it as binary, or you could use percent-encoding inside = a string.

If there's significant demand for it, we could add a new type, but then = we need to be able to discriminate it from ascii strings -- both on the wir= e and in APIs.

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I think I'm going to try to take identifiers out of the next draft and see how that goes. We can always re-add them.

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----==_mimepart_5abb33bd2fb56_70e62af4654ccec464923-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 23:20:30 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.607 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.607 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 23:20:26 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522218026; bh=BsjAeEVC1LabUEN80+ltKNUmISpc5b2z5mWpx9BKF18=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tncw8gUeS8SkV5SrbL4+bONevlKMJ1jaOCG9s7ztqaGxSKv7aVQzheT4ChbbmM1am BJbofxOnPBl5XPRJOU0oOkuFrb8k5Buq+PEmGfT+tBUMgHaHo30of4d6V4ItVccsEe wwNVgGbw7WOIq+KVns2NPdW7NUd+2PMQ6BljMoQo= To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] Length limits on types (#433) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abb342ac9caf_560c2abe619c6ec819569b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 06:20:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abb342ac9caf_560c2abe619c6ec819569b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed in London; see: https://github.com/httpwg/wg-materials/blob/gh-pages/ietf101/minutes.md#header-common-structure---mark-nottingham I think the most relevant question is whether we want to limit individual structures (beyond numbers, which are a special case; e.g., string length, number of items in a list, etc.), or whether we just want to limit header size. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/433#issuecomment-376774868 ----==_mimepart_5abb342ac9caf_560c2abe619c6ec819569b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Discussed in London; see:
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I think the most relevant question is whether we want to limit individ= ual structures (beyond numbers, which are a special case; e.g., string le= ngth, number of items in a list, etc.), or whether we just want to limit = header size.

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I think the right answer here is to adjust the text to say that splitting structures across headers can lead to unpredictable/unfortunate results.

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The other approach would be to require commas to be escaped in strings.

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FWIW, I think the main downside of this is that we cannot offer a simple= JavaScript API in the form of .get(headerName) that returns t= he appropriate object. Instead callers will always have to supply the expec= ted type as well (i.e., get(headerName, headerType)). (Or we'd= have to have built-in support for header name <> type mapping, but t= hat doesn't scale and will lead to all kinds of interoperability issues.)

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@martinthomson gave me the impression somewhere that new base64 usage should use the base64url.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-header-structure-04#section-4.9 doesn't, which makes me worry browsers would use https://infra.spec.whatwg.org/#forgiving-base64 here leading to the interoperability issues already anticipated by that section.

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In https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-header-structure-04 the various example headers do not use the naming I'd expect of typical HTTP headers which is somewhat confusing.

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It'd be good to have use cases indeed. The only case I've seen folks mak= e for this is URLs, which end up being ASCII-compatible once parsed, so are= not that compelling.

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It would be really nice if we defined an operation that basically gets t= he value of a particular header for an entire header list.

And then once and for all defined what happens with duplicates, relative= order, etc.

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To clarify, having syntax for header values is great, but if we don't de= al with multiple headers, we'll continue to have a large set of problems we= have with the current setup. Do you use the first or last? Do you combine = and then parse? Do you parse independently and then use the resulting value= s? Do you error on multiple headers? By ignoring it or treating it as a net= work error?

(I've seen most of these trying to figure out how existing headers are i= mplemented.)

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Anne, I think we've got that covered. The question here is whether a string split over multiple headers should be silently handled (including the comma, I suppose), or reliably raise an error.

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Thanks (I'm assuming it's covered somewhere that "field value" is obtain= ed after stripping whitespace).

Since intermediaries can combine, you cannot really disallow it, can you= ?

I think that's why some folks defining headers try to outlaw the comma I= think; so they can detect header injection.

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My main worry here is where this limit is allowed to be imposed. If some= one goes beyond this limit, is there still a guarantee that the header can = be obtained through a non-structured API? Or would implementations be allow= ed to have header-specific knowledge in the network stack and drop these he= aders on the floor there?

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Note that we're reconsidering this in whatwg/html#3109.

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Leave that up to the individual header definitions? An implementation that knows whether a header is structured or not can know more specific semantics for that header.

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This should match what was submitted for draft -03 - without
(inconsequential) whitespace changes that were introduced by
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This should match what was submitted for draft -03

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One thing I'm running into is providing a Title for a link. Basically = the specification is saying right now is that Headers are strictly identi= fiers for computers, and never information for humans.

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I think it's saying that UI is the exceptional case and that in such exceptional cases you can use "binary" plus UTF-8 processing on top.

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While I understand the argument that it might not be an extremely common= case, I am kind of left wondering what the specific argument against UTF-8 support, especially in light of the fact that an established mech= anism for this exists.

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Because developers have been trained to use it, and if it's available = as a "native" option, will use it out of habit / cargo culting.

While in most places UTF-8 is clearly the right thing to do, this is n= ot at all true in protocols; years of experience has shown that it causes= performance overhead, bloat, imprecision, confusion, and sometimes secur= ity issues.

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Going through the existing requirements, I think it's appropriate. Individual requirements might need adjustment, of course.

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----==_mimepart_5abd7dc82ea79_12253fbe568acf3811426-- From nobody Thu Mar 29 17:00:34 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.391 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.391 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:00:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522368024; bh=4QviKls4+vwwtwmmbXqKYfHTHf6g7rgk9q1KK1lZDyk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sbLb2Hw6YNG+1lB8I1saYnHuDyDL8MS0PCBEVbWm74QZTizOLD0p7UWnTuO7/M+qk /QN+IU1H0YoIbw/obOPaMHMO2b51hkTY968QXmJnV/W/ZwE2ixFrf+P2CUofrc90B9 CjniWTa7coYWKzR/tQpwqceqHA7qYCwKiy6Yzqjk= To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] bcp56bis section ref to HTML (#510) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abd7e18fa50_35fe3fd30a496f3498055"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 00:00:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abd7e18fa50_35fe3fd30a496f3498055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #510 via 6e0743bc85bf197fcdfeb4a647cad27466201d0d. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/510#event-1549011148 ----==_mimepart_5abd7e18fa50_35fe3fd30a496f3498055 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Reschke, where do you see it citing W3C CORS?

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e.g., specific security headers, best practices.

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  • generic caching can't be modified by application-specific extensions / controls
  • remember intermediary caches / reverse caches / CDN caches / server caches
  • sometimes a separate expiration is needed
  • invalidation

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it comes up.

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----==_mimepart_5abd84c2a255a_257c3ff42b5e6f2816885f-- From nobody Thu Mar 29 17:46:14 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:46:10 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522370770; bh=pwnnlYSbjC44GDumgEYFTsib+BmbOA4I/0mtIySXAdc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SCJC2vEea4m33z7cQNEgDNI2whxhoKv2Ndqfn/JS91ZPehoNrnJZ7Vu0fc/oxhg02 86r/9EkCZ5fRKa7q4xQqPIyowZx95IefLjqhBgSzVp1yIvl5Ss58VMbtEAs6EP5QLd CMAJ9MJ5p+e+JPmMaUMswbxYtXKAbT8wM1Mj+AKc= To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] Length limits on types (#433) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abd88d2e71c7_6bd62b036e51ced44077a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 00:46:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abd88d2e71c7_6bd62b036e51ced44077a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stepping back - to me, a large part of the motivation for including limits IMO is two things: 1. To assure that there aren't arbitrary differences between the capabilities / built-in limits of implementations (thereby causing interop or even security issues). 2. To provide fallback limits for authors who forget to specify them. I'd also observe that overall header length limits are imposed by HTTP implementations themselves, which is often going to be separate from structured header implementations. I think this convinces me that we should keep the limits in their current form, and that they should probably be made pretty big (esp. strings) so that they are hit less often. Current limits / what I propose: * Dictionary - 1024 members / 4096 members * List - 1024 members / 4096 members * Parameterised Lists (items) - 256 items / 1024 items * Parameterised Lists (parameters per item) - 256 parameters / 256 parameters * Strings - 1024 characters / 8192 characters * Identifiers - 256 characters / 256 characters * Binary Content - 16384 bytes / 16384 bytes Thoughts? Another approach would be to require parsers to support at least so many characters / items / etc., rather than fixing maximums. That would address (1) above but not (2). That might be OK, since overall header length will probably kick in as an abuse control before many of these. @annevk - I think an implementation (whether server or client) *could* drop what it knows to be a structured header onto the floor if it violated the limits, but it wouldn't be required; the only requirement is on someone actually running as a parser. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/433#issuecomment-377414059 ----==_mimepart_5abd88d2e71c7_6bd62b036e51ced44077a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Stepping back - to me, a large part of the motivation for including li= mits IMO is two things:

  1. To assure that there aren't arbitrary differences between the capabil= ities / built-in limits of implementations (thereby causing interop or ev= en security issues).
  2. To provide fallback limits for authors who forget to specify them.

I'd also observe that overall header length limits are imposed by HTTP= implementations themselves, which is often going to be separate from str= uctured header implementations.

I think this convinces me that we should keep the limits in their curr= ent form, and that they should probably be made pretty big (esp. strings)= so that they are hit less often.

Current limits / what I propose:

  • Dictionary - 1024 members / 4096 members
  • List - 1024 members / 4096 members
  • Parameterised Lists (items) - 256 items / 1024 items
  • Parameterised Lists (parameters per item) - 256 parameters / 256 para= meters
  • Strings - 1024 characters / 8192 characters
  • Identifiers - 256 characters / 256 characters
  • Binary Content - 16384 bytes / 16384 bytes

Thoughts?

Another approach would be to require parsers to support at least so ma= ny characters / items / etc., rather than fixing maximums. That would add= ress (1) above but not (2). That might be OK, since overall header length= will probably kick in as an abuse control before many of these.

@annevk - I think an implementation (whethe= r server or client) could drop what it knows to be a structured = header onto the floor if it violated the limits, but it wouldn't be requi= red; the only requirement is on someone actually running as a parser.

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End of https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-bcp56bis-02#section-4.11. It's a normative reference even.

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----==_mimepart_5abdcdf85433b_6d112b1565552ecc2782cb-- From nobody Thu Mar 29 22:41:23 2018 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.464 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 22:41:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1522388475; bh=3sazf+pTOjodrqixNsq3PgC86iLrfy4fUpQ8a3XZ+5I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=bg8OcfFHW7mREywaLbL7//mvhqnoKStRsuzQaunOqRk2O0v1Mqmfm1wX8qfuMWyM6 CkMM8C5DNQuZbESZGDrDzCF3FWXJogXrHPwgShfmsTHpeZNh95+GKTc48kkxS+7bXF HUxHRw8kBng09GIKaQSY8Z2KL5wlwv72g9EgyZPY= To: httpwg/http-extensions Cc: Subscribed In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] bcp56bis: CORS reference (#513) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5abdcdfbc2777_23c13fe099c28f3023853d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 05:41:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5abdcdfbc2777_23c13fe099c28f3023853d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks (I missed it thanks to case-sensitive search). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/513#issuecomment-377450566 ----==_mimepart_5abdcdfbc2777_23c13fe099c28f3023853d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks (I missed it thanks to case-sensitive search).

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Sounds like a solid reason. At least we still have the other syntax for anything else.

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