From nobody Fri Apr 1 10:15:44 2016 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.942 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.942 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 10:15:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1459530940; bh=O3LQKrK+lpJ46B1gkorkvqT6FMly6e7P/+UuDHbxxgc=; h=From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ejiTI1URwacWHwpLtntd7N6K785UUCeldK/DrCDWJ0Z105gq8c8IBtUEDLwcW3yXQ XZoZTaeoSMRx+tI4OCZvNTgRrWqlKtDMRG6pclLbHc5fMZ3h+DMquXDF59E6CWzwIg Rfe9yyOdK+blGhA11SSvWfsGumsLSWL0JWqa1U/M= To: httpwg/http-extensions In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] WIP: addressing CH feedback (#163) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_56feacbc405ca_165c3fb34a0d92a02638c5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 17:15:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_56feacbc405ca_165c3fb34a0d92a02638c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @reschke @mnot most of the remaining issues are references. Any tips or examples for how to reference W3C docs? Similarly, for Vary, how do I deeplink into the spec? --- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/163#issuecomment-204475704 ----==_mimepart_56feacbc405ca_165c3fb34a0d92a02638c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@reschke @mnot most of the remaining issues are references. Any tips or examples for how to reference W3C docs? Similarly, for Vary, how do I deeplink into the spec?

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----==_mimepart_56feacbc405ca_165c3fb34a0d92a02638c5-- From nobody Fri Apr 1 10:54:43 2016 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.942 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.942 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 10:54:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1459533280; bh=2W0TlM3cRHeSlm5c2/dnydud+Qk7cIBaot8OTJjtlmM=; h=From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=p3RxIkTKVblFpyabEJa8qAClowXRmnwha7tyKu70699ruAuUffV7AklZ6k9YVV1n8 +FsqlcfRqlGh8+1h8iQ2GH8gRrPmbKht+HYnIqxLtuxXwNuhTWQsQtzsNIMIj7ELae x0A7IVV0tVfA4B8JiNXoPKfpJRaeK0UTyljKJ4gg= To: httpwg/http-extensions In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] WIP: addressing CH feedback (#163) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_56feb5e023710_49543fbd5f26b2c0327613"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 17:54:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_56feb5e023710_49543fbd5f26b2c0327613 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit W3C: try something like: informative: + W3C.REC-html5-20141028: For deep linking, I believe kramdown can't help. Just say "Section xyz of [RFC....]". --- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/163#issuecomment-204490017 ----==_mimepart_56feb5e023710_49543fbd5f26b2c0327613 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

W3C: try something like:

informative:

  • W3C.REC-html5-20141028:

For deep linking, I believe kramdown can't help. Just say "Section xyz of [RFC....]".

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@reschke thanks, please review. I think I got most of the things fixed.

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In draft-ietf-httpbis-client-hints.md:

> @@ -50,6 +50,7 @@ normative:
>        organization: Google
>    W3C.REC-html5-20141028:
>    W3C.CR-css-values-3-20150611:
> +#  W3C.REC-CSS2-20110607:

Yes, it seems the reference is borked. I believe the only way to fix this right now is to inline the full text...

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Just a note and not a re-open request:

The HTML meta refresh is a http-equiv, the existence of meta refresh in HTML is to declare that the HTTP refresh header also exists. Every browser appears to treat it that way, to implement the HTML meta refresh they have all implemented the HTTP refresh.

The bug as it stands is that there is no standard documentation of a refresh header in HTTP (outside of HTML documentation).

I have used the HTTP header at scale and the HTML spec for the header value format works as expected everywhere.

I have also used it in JSON APIs where again it worked (except with primitive bots, which was what I was aiming for that time). I am not convinced the "solve in the HTML spec" approach is the right one as it does work outside of HTML.

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@mnot @reschke squashed. Please review and feel free to merge if it looks good.

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----==_mimepart_57029c109c36e_10573fb1520f32bc31002-- From nobody Mon Apr 4 10:43:08 2016 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.928 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.928 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 10:43:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1459791784; bh=QFaSCDNH3orK0vpX5WxBfs0M4fQVrQyXKo3d11b5wMM=; h=From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1MPxF/jvNatQowiEYta5Yu7UOZuEkIiCGM216cHnRQZb65XnzVQ8OtMVH3RpK+XQG t7j5Ssf96wC6UxCSyazx4bc0eByl9dZbMphbQDRH2JDTVewN9dxN4Uq0BgK9uMWZkt W7F+5dMuD53xuUvpJ0/oLMRsy+AvJ87zUzNOUha4= To: httpwg/http-extensions In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] Define more precisely which CH headers are sent by default (#156) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5702a7a8458ee_240b3ff5778f12c024293"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 17:43:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5702a7a8458ee_240b3ff5778f12c024293 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/pull/258#issuecomment-204977118: > In your draft, should probably say they define the header field value. A header field consists of a name and a value. --- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/156#issuecomment-205411075 ----==_mimepart_5702a7a8458ee_240b3ff5778f12c024293 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

From whatwg/fetch#258 (comment):

In your draft, should probably say they define the header field value. A header field consists of a name and a value.

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It appears that the processing steps for "param" do not handle values with quoted-string syntax, wrt (a) not splitting on ",", (b) unescaping (removing DQUOTE and undoing quoted-pair escaping).

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Closed #135.

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----==_mimepart_5702bf081fe44_4f913fdbe96c52a063162e-- From nobody Mon Apr 4 12:25:22 2016 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 12:25:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1459797918; bh=PEc3yQDDS5pYs/twIeDE42LidkwpSe2lW2wvPr77hog=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ULg1aBhsJQ/w7x1dIC4g5gNCnhQGEBiTEymJ8/wjhHdTeU8+fynzqMo3pCg+ei+eR 7+a9ed1mkuc1nytRlEp/0V80iD7/pntBPEmPiv9mnRPOdQohuxnuFOgpbchUGUhKAF I8BaMNdfqYbLKUIJ+IXD7jlM7+wZ5EKYRD6MVi9Y= To: httpwg/http-extensions Subject: [httpwg/http-extensions] Confusion Regarding Request Scheme (#167) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5702bf9e17881_5ff23f8028c392bc126237"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 19:25:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5702bf9e17881_5ff23f8028c392bc126237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See : With the latest changes, this now reads: "Some HTTP/1.1 implementations use ambient signals to determine if a request is for an https resource. For example, implementations might look for TLS on the stack or a port number of 443. This is necessary in many cases because the most common form of an HTTP/1.1 request does not carry an explicit indication of the URI scheme. An implementation that is serving an opportunistically secured request SHOULD suppress these signals for http resources. HTTP/1.1 MUST NOT be used to serve opportunistically secured requests. HTTP/1.1 can be used to discover an opportunistically secured alternative service." The problem remains that this is not really specific to HTTP/1.1; for instance, code running inside Apache over HTTP/2 may have exactly the same problem (Stefan E. to confirm); so it's more a matter of HTTP server internal APIs, not the on-the-wire protocol. I believe this needs to be rephrased to better explain the actual problem; and I also remain unconvinced that the conclusion wrt HTTP/1.1 makes sense. --- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/167 ----==_mimepart_5702bf9e17881_5ff23f8028c392bc126237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2016JanMar/0531.html:

With the latest changes, this now reads:

"Some HTTP/1.1 implementations use ambient signals to determine if a
request is for an https resource. For example, implementations might
look for TLS on the stack or a port number of 443. This is necessary in
many cases because the most common form of an HTTP/1.1 request does not
carry an explicit indication of the URI scheme. An implementation that
is serving an opportunistically secured request SHOULD suppress these
signals for http resources.

HTTP/1.1 MUST NOT be used to serve opportunistically secured requests.
HTTP/1.1 can be used to discover an opportunistically secured
alternative service."

The problem remains that this is not really specific to HTTP/1.1; for
instance, code running inside Apache over HTTP/2 may have exactly the
same problem (Stefan E. to confirm); so it's more a matter of HTTP
server internal APIs, not the on-the-wire protocol.

I believe this needs to be rephrased to better explain the actual
problem; and I also remain unconvinced that the conclusion wrt HTTP/1.1
makes sense.

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I understand that the current method has the save-data aspect of client hints as a simple on/off switch. I wonder, though, about the willingness to consider allowing for some extensibility. Right now, someone saying "save-data=on" is signing up for pretty much anything. Separating acceptance of data saving for different elements, e.g. agreeing to smaller video resources but not lower fidelity audio, seems like it may be useful. I suggest that the working group consider making this an extensible field with "save-date=all" as the default, with semantics matching the current "save-data=on". Then later extensions can be specified for more granular statements.

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+1 to merge and iterate, as it unblocks other work on this end.

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In examples, the document shows how it can improve conneg when the server varies the response based on the "User-Agent" request header field. It would be good to insert a quick reminder that doing things like this is a last resort and ought to be avoided.

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----==_mimepart_5705236b3e217_7a043fdcc2e2b2b8199611-- From nobody Wed Apr 6 11:15:53 2016 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 11:15:48 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1459966548; bh=/RwtP3ymIz7wSlItekm1PCRCcA5QtScVHNOMcxYDFB8=; h=From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iL98kBWc8vedhfkWJ+KwWPmHXnwLhKxZ2wJClh4T1kkTD0GilHKewtsrQmBRiE3dJ v+H8Y/L+DbVdkWXySYYHPufPhz19K+n96sBsCyt8yBHbhR7pdsWUx1P9fcJAZpMX9Y AtHPzBxdOhNMtYIiJYOepVipkWvyqHh2Xs9KFQ9M= To: httpwg/http-extensions In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] save-data extensibility (#168) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_57055254df39b_6b493fe49484b29c367b9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:15:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_57055254df39b_6b493fe49484b29c367b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think we can already achieve this with current definition: - We can define other tokens - We can define parameters - e.g. "on;video-only", etc. Changing from "on" to "all" doesn't really change anything. Also, we already have both client and server implementations that are relying on "on". _p.s. some background: https://github.com/igrigorik/http-client-hints/pull/63/commits/e8bafcf5702e23a4052905137a741274e80d602b_ --- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/168#issuecomment-206500218 ----==_mimepart_57055254df39b_6b493fe49484b29c367b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think we can already achieve this with current definition:

  • We can define other tokens
  • We can define parameters - e.g. "on;video-only", etc.

Changing from "on" to "all" doesn't really change anything. Also, we already have both client and server implementations that are relying on "on".

p.s. some background: igrigorik/http-client-hints@e8bafcf

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----==_mimepart_57055254df39b_6b493fe49484b29c367b9-- From nobody Thu Apr 7 09:59:57 2016 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.942 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.942 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:59:49 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1460048389; bh=nWkP/q/zPVlzskWS7BFdq+COFf8VQCl+nN6x9CX6rOk=; h=From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=czYOpeAG03X3sBTR7O6rQ2/E6pyZ3v4mlHpFk1h4/kMLKIr/8S1A5AJYBikCauhhy T2hhJWFvBzSpvw7++DgtV0UqPD2bSzUTSRF1HlZp0JlVMO0TWxiCiQpxUz4SVtec+y AwdbzhmEnY9S/yG/xKLO8cDVpF1XYvKGwQmltJvQ= To: httpwg/http-extensions In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] UA sniffing (#169) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_57069205151ad_1f933fb24d1372b8393815"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 16:59:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_57069205151ad_1f933fb24d1372b8393815 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @reschke which spec is this for? --- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/169#issuecomment-206994406 ----==_mimepart_57069205151ad_1f933fb24d1372b8393815 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@reschke which spec is this for?

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"key" - sorry, forgot to label it.

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----==_mimepart_57069749cb99d_68613fb6d16292c0240524-- From nobody Sat Apr 9 10:56:33 2016 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.491 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.491 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.629, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 10:56:27 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1460224587; bh=z05CduZdnr+Q7LlLFL56R9k39/4BDrt24NMkuD1tW2I=; h=From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HHsf26g/qrDy92skp65GmucpJv7Il7Jd3vjLtXI10phGVLlkLtTtkhNKenLylydEv qn6aOXvD+tgDNKmDvW7KRmuPtDQp9I3Vl/AsKw0p9T6izk3Sl+Bg59ZNgH6aR3nhJT OrqRoqvO4yJGGuFI8yIAY9HnoQfkcb3kLOjg41nw= To: httpwg/http-extensions In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] CACHE_DIGEST: clients should seed hash and send seed (#171) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5709424b6c05_4cea3fdf5fcc52bc4608bc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 17:56:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5709424b6c05_4cea3fdf5fcc52bc4608bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why not derive the seed somehow? Even a small amount of connection-bound entropy should suffice to split things up. Worst case, use a TLS exporter, but folding in source ip and port might be enough to avoid problems. --- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/171#issuecomment-207822697 ----==_mimepart_5709424b6c05_4cea3fdf5fcc52bc4608bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Why not derive the seed somehow? Even a small amount of connection-bound entropy should suffice to split things up. Worst case, use a TLS exporter, but folding in source ip and port might be enough to avoid problems.

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Merged #173.

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----==_mimepart_57178c5faf59c_d1e3f8c83d7b2bc644249-- From nobody Thu Apr 21 07:03:25 2016 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 07:03:20 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1461247400; bh=GrrXdzclhw9b/JxbWmNh0EB4m7JHdRTaFkU2ApPGZXQ=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2XxibIuv1Ff9LAm7Q/bL8mmuJPgp3/fB5s0ldtuwX25ZmDfJx6Uv4D8JAoaE9y34i GR+q5mk4i8MzQ/fBSvGMnSCTGqswLIODxZVpY0fLGRRltI9JhZhOO7h7XKk/Mtwf6j zc0f/OOpFwZsWd0JA96SQSLCp/k6g9qoHCJ7V82Y= To: httpwg/http-extensions Subject: [httpwg/http-extensions] HTTP/2 PUSH cache mechanism? (#174) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5718dda8d9995_40d73ff8426d92bc358774"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:03:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5718dda8d9995_40d73ff8426d92bc358774 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unsure if this is the right place to ask. Is there an existing effort to make a header for HTTP/2's PUSH promises able to sync dependency trees? Consider: ```html ``` ```js // a import "b"; ``` ```js // b import "c"; ``` And so on... Right now we can PUSH `a`, `b`, etc. when `index.html` is requested. However, when we receive an etag for `index.html` we are unsure what revision of dependencies are in the cache for `a`, `b`, etc. I saw CACHE_DIGEST, but was wondering if there was an effort to make dependency tree caching available to reduce chatter for PUSH of large/deep resources as are common in JS applications. --- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/174 ----==_mimepart_5718dda8d9995_40d73ff8426d92bc358774 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Unsure if this is the right place to ask. Is there an existing effort to make a header for HTTP/2's PUSH promises able to sync dependency trees?

Consider:

<!-- index.html -->
<script type="module" src="a"></script>
// a
import "b";
// b
import "c";

And so on...

Right now we can PUSH a, b, etc. when index.html is requested. However, when we receive an etag for index.html we are unsure what revision of dependencies are in the cache for a, b, etc.

I saw CACHE_DIGEST, but was wondering if there was an effort to make dependency tree caching available to reduce chatter for PUSH of large/deep resources as are common in JS applications.

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----==_mimepart_5718dda8d9995_40d73ff8426d92bc358774-- From nobody Thu Apr 21 07:05:27 2016 Delivered-To: http-issues@ietfa.amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.942 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.942 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 07:05:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1461247523; bh=Ii6iJXpqaZc36vwe8Ksg99/o85woHtMs3SI+rFyLr1s=; h=From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1T8wKWPTMs0oWjyFLwVVgsW61yWh3S2k3xBrMvos9u8i6ksLpJJKnubjhwsMv1GfF k1VaN3DXn3k0BibRp2T1BBJSZHHkaLic3f/qNtFRQ9OBwiwFjhkyCHWnWTRc+Yp4Yg 4Fyp/EVLeGgD5RNu7xNSfhtJEAzwMww5mdtFxikM= To: httpwg/http-extensions In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [httpwg/http-extensions] HTTP/2 PUSH cache mechanism? (#174) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5718de2349deb_454e3fb81f8272bc300fb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Archived-At: Message-ID: From: HTTP issue updates X-BeenThere: http-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: http-issues@ietf.org List-Id: HTTP issue updates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:05:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5718de2349deb_454e3fb81f8272bc300fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you mean making it available to the http layer in the UA or Web app, e.g. SW JS, or both? --- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/issues/174#issuecomment-212935025 ----==_mimepart_5718de2349deb_454e3fb81f8272bc300fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Do you mean making it available to the http layer in the UA or Web app, e.g. SW JS, or both?

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Ok, just saw your response; you are focusing on the http layer cache.

yes, it's part of several discussions I would say. This was presented at Buenos Aires https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kazuho-h2-cache-digest/. The use of Link header to inform a client about such stufff as an ODG has been mentioned. Expect it to be a piece of the puzzle here.

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