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Dolan" To: ftp-wg@hethmon.com Subject: Ftp-WG: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-saul-ftp-plus-00.txt I'd like to call this ID to the WG's attention. Please direct your comments to the author, Mike Saul (cc'd above). >To: IETF-Announce: ; >From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-saul-ftp-plus-00.txt >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 06:49:46 -0400 >Sender: nsyracus@cnri.reston.va.us > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > > > Title : FTP Plus > Author(s) : M. Saul > Filename : draft-saul-ftp-plus-00.txt > Pages : 22 > Date : 29-Aug-00 > >The terminology used in this document is a bit television centric >and thus may be somewhat unusual to the internet community. The >reader is referred to a joint task force report of the Society of >Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE) and the European >Broadcast Union (EBU) [1] as background material. >Also, this document may refer to itself as a > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-saul-ftp-plus-00.txt > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username >"anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, >type "cd internet-drafts" and then > "get draft-saul-ftp-plus-00.txt". > >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > >Send a message to: > mailserv@ietf.org. >In the body type: > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-saul-ftp-plus-00.txt". > >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the >Internet-Draft. >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-ID: <20000829112015.I-D@ietf.org> > >ENCODING mime >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-saul-ftp-plus-00.txt > > ------------------------------------------------------ Michael A. Dolan, Representing DIRECTV, (619)445-9070 PO Box 1673 Alpine, CA 91903 FAX: (619)445-6122 From ftp-wg-owner@hethmon.com Wed Aug 30 11:22:17 2000 Received: from mail.hethmon.com (mail.hethmon.com [208.147.156.32]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA01837 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail (mail.hethmon.com [208.147.156.32]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20000830101843-18623-10 ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:18:43 -0500 Received: from mail.vr.net (mail.vr.net [205.133.13.8]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20000830101833-60139-9 ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:18:41 -0500 Received: from osiris (osiris.vr.net [205.133.13.9]) (authenticated) by mail.vr.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e7UFEG904675; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:14:16 -0400 Message-ID: <00cb01c01294$bbd2fb80$090d85cd@vr.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000830064219.00cf4de0@cts.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:18:41 -0500 X-OldDate: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:12:34 -0400 Sender: ftp-wg-owner X-Listname: ftp-wg@hethmon.com Reply-To: FTPEXT Working Group From: "Gregory A Lundberg" To: "FTPEXT Working Group" Subject: Ftp-WG: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-saul-ftp-plus-00.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'd like to call this ID to the WG's attention. Please direct your > comments to the author, Mike Saul (cc'd above). > > Title : FTP Plus > > Author(s) : M. Saul > > Filename : draft-saul-ftp-plus-00.txt > > Pages : 22 > > Date : 29-Aug-00 I would suggest a better name for the proposal would be "XTP extensions for FTP". This avoids any possible confusion that your specification in a replacement for standard FTP. At a quick glance, I would suggest this would simplify your specification considerably .. I see a number of places where you say "both FTP and FTP+". Viewing your work as an extension to the existing FTP means you will only need to discuss where your specification departs from FTP. In addition, phrasing such as "a superset of RFC 959" can be misleading. Do you mean to say that when using your XTP extensions, *ONLY* the protocol specified by RFC 959 should be implemented, or do you mean to say that your extensions are to be usable with which ever additional FTP-related RFCs may also be desired (including future specifications)? Since you make reference to post-959 RFCs, I assume the later case applies. Your use of X-commands is a poor choice for a specification. The X-commands are reserved for local extensions and should not be used in formal specifications of this type. If you have an existing implementation using these X-commands, you should list those commands for historical purposes; but you should define a new set of (non-X) commands, show the mapping from the X-command to the new specification, and encourage those using the X-commands to update to the new one. Some specific comments: 5.3.1.2 Is it your intention here to create new lists of values for the IANA to maintain? You state that valid values for the transport specifier are "IP4" and "IP6" (which, I presume, you mean to be case-insensitive), what about future transport methods? If IP8 were to be specified, do you envision your specification a _precluding_ its use? What about vendor transport methods? Similar comments about network specifiers. 5.3.1.4 Your XPSV command requires knowledge of the server host's architecture which may not be available to the client. The best solution would be to eliminate the need for the client to specify the "interface name". Your comments at the end of the specification imply this is not possible. Therefore, you should include some means for the server to report to the client when an "interface name" is required, and for the client to discover the set of correct values for the "interface name". 5.3.1.6 Your specification for the STOR command is un-parsable. When I say STOR My Documents/User Guide 2000 08 29 I mean to store a file named "My Documents/User Guide 2000 08 29". Your specification would have me storing a file named "My Documents/User Guide 2000", updating an existing file of that name by overwriting the 9th through 37th bytes (I'm assuming you mean 'offset' to be zero based). 5.3.1.7 Same problem as 5.3.1.6 5.3.2.1 Your use of STAT with no filename is improper. You should use FEAT to discover whether threading is supported. Your allegation that "the second form of STAT will never be used unless threading is supported" is false. In addition, I see no reason to specify the reply text "must be" in any given format. If your protocol requires formatted progress information, you should provide a command to that purpose. Otherwise, a XTP-enabled FTP client could have significant difficult communicating with a non-XTP-enable server. 5.3.2.2 Use FEAT instead of SITE to discover information about the server's implementation and capabilities. 5.3.2.3 Unparsable (see my comments about 5.3.1.6). Also, probably unnecessary; use MLST to discover information about files, directories, or other objects on the server. From ftp-wg-owner@hethmon.com Thu Aug 31 15:15:23 2000 Received: from mail.hethmon.com (mail.hethmon.com [208.147.156.32]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA11913 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:15:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail (mail.hethmon.com [208.147.156.32]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20000831141618-3388-9 ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:16:18 -0500 Received: from roll.mentat.com (mentat.com [192.88.122.129]) by mail.hethmon.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) id 20000831141615-46986-8 ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:16:15 -0500 Received: from death (death [192.88.122.121]) by roll.mentat.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA16104; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008311912.MAA16104@roll.mentat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: y0V+blj1Cq1VTWyQULS4xQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 i86pc i386 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:16:16 -0500 X-OldDate: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: ftp-wg-owner X-Listname: ftp-wg@hethmon.com Reply-To: FTPEXT Working Group From: Mike Saul To: lundberg@vr.net Subject: Ftp-WG: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-saul-ftp-plus-00.txt > > Title : FTP Plus > > Author(s) : M. Saul > > Filename : draft-saul-ftp-plus-00.txt > > Pages : 22 > > Date : 29-Aug-00 > I would suggest a better name for the proposal would be "XTP extensions for > FTP". This avoids any possible confusion that your specification in a > replacement for standard FTP. At a quick glance, I would suggest this would > simplify your specification considerably .. I see a number of places where > you say "both FTP and FTP+". Viewing your work as an extension to the > existing FTP means you will only need to discuss where your specification > departs from FTP. > In addition, phrasing such as "a superset of RFC 959" can be misleading. Do > you mean to say that when using your XTP extensions, *ONLY* the protocol > specified by RFC 959 should be implemented, or do you mean to say that your > extensions are to be usable with which ever additional FTP-related RFCs may > also be desired (including future specifications)? Since you make reference > to post-959 RFCs, I assume the later case applies. Gregory, Thanks for your comments. In this specification, the details of what FTP is and how "both FTP and FTP+" exhibit similar characteristics were primarily for the benefit of the SMPTE audience. For this forum, I agree that we only need to be concerned with how FTP plus differs from FTP. Leaving aside the name change for now, I do view this specification as an extension to FTP. And this extension should be usable with RFC 959 as well as additional FTP-related RFCs. > Your use of X-commands is a poor choice for a specification. The X-commands > are reserved for local extensions and should not be used in formal > specifications of this type. If you have an existing implementation using > these X-commands, you should list those commands for historical purposes; > but you should define a new set of (non-X) commands, show the mapping from > the X-command to the new specification, and encourage those using the > X-commands to update to the new one. > Some specific comments: > 5.3.1.2 > Is it your intention here to create new lists of values for the IANA to > maintain? > You state that valid values for the transport specifier are "IP4" and "IP6" > (which, I presume, you mean to be case-insensitive), what about future > transport methods? If IP8 were to be specified, do you envision your > specification a _precluding_ its use? What about vendor transport methods? > Similar comments about network specifiers. Perhaps a better solution here would be to use the EPRT and EPSV definitions of RFC 2428 in place of the XPRT and XPSV commands. The only trouble is there is no address family number for XTP in RFC 1700. We would have to get one from IANA. > 5.3.1.4 > Your XPSV command requires knowledge of the server host's architecture which > may not be available to the client. The best solution would be to eliminate > the need for the client to specify the "interface name". Your comments at > the end of the specification imply this is not possible. Therefore, you > should include some means for the server to report to the client when an > "interface name" is required, and for the client to discover the set of > correct values for the "interface name". The "interface_name" parameter is optional. However I agree that the server should make this information available to the client. > 5.3.1.6 > Your specification for the STOR command is un-parsable. When I say > STOR My Documents/User Guide 2000 08 29 > I mean to store a file named "My Documents/User Guide 2000 08 29". Your > specification would have me storing a file named "My Documents/User Guide > 2000", updating an existing file of that name by overwriting the 9th through > 37th bytes (I'm assuming you mean 'offset' to be zero based). > 5.3.1.7 > Same problem as 5.3.1.6 I understand. So I would like to propose some other ways to do this. One alternative is to modify the REST command to add an optional length parameter. The only problem is that in some cases we are not trying to RESTART a transfer and we are just trying to send part of a file. So instead of overloading the REST command perhaps a better solution would be to create a STPA (Store Parameters) and a RTPA (Retrieve Parameters) command? There would be no file names associated with these commands, so the "file names with spaces" problem would be eliminated. Note that having both an offset and a length parameter (to some acceptable command) should be of general interest to this working group and the IETF community. > 5.3.2.1 > Your use of STAT with no filename is improper. You should use FEAT to > discover whether threading is supported. > Your allegation that "the second form of STAT will never be used unless > threading is supported" is false. In addition, I see no reason to specify > the reply text "must be" in any given format. If your protocol requires > formatted progress information, you should provide a command to that > purpose. Otherwise, a XTP-enabled FTP client could have significant > difficult communicating with a non-XTP-enable server. I believe that when this FTP+ draft was first proposed, RFC 2389 had not been published. RFC959 does state that for the STAT command "If no argument is given, the server should return general status information about the server FTP process". Perhaps FTP+ was interpreting this too broadly. In any case, I agree that the FEAT command would be more appropriate. > 5.3.2.2 > Use FEAT instead of SITE to discover information about the server's > implementation and capabilities. Here we are not trying to find out whether the server supports the RATE command; we want to know the current value. Is FEAT still more appropriate? > 5.3.2.3 > Unparsable (see my comments about 5.3.1.6). Also, probably unnecessary; use > MLST to discover information about files, directories, or other objects on > the server. I understand. The second parameter to SIZE is not really necessary. Mike