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([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ENc9M-0003WQ-6S for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:15:33 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA04308 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j96Jp6PO017848; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:51:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j96Jp6qN017847; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:51:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.verisignlabs.com (cliffie.verisignlabs.com [65.201.175.9]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j96Jp5XR017835 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:51:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sah@428cobrajet.net) Received: from dul1shollenbl1 ([::ffff:68.100.55.187]) (AUTH: LOGIN shollenb, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,RC4-MD5) by mail.verisignlabs.com with esmtp; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:50:59 -0400 id 005CC67E.43458023.00005624 From: "Scott Hollenbeck" To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: Working Group Progress Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 15:51:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcXKr0pK3v0S4nHNT5eDlGQYlH1kJA== Message-ID: Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Earlier today I had a chance to speak with Rik Drummond, EDIINT working group chair. We discussed the future of this group given that there has been no evidence of activity on this mailing list for quite some time. If work is being done it's not being done here, and that's a problem. Earlier this year, Rik and I discussed a charter update which included submission of the AS3 document to the IESG by December 2005. In our conversation today Rik and I came to an agreement that your progress on this document will determine if the group continues or not. That is, if the milestone is not met the group WILL be closed as a result of inactivity and this missed milestone unless there are some really extenuating circumstances. Normally, one missed milestone isn't a big deal. However, the lack of participation in this group has me deeply concerned. IETF standards require evidence of community consensus; they can't happen if there's no community or no consensus. You, the members of this working group, must demonstrate that both exist, and to meet your December deadline you really need to start wrapping things up NOW. 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owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LGDcm0028596; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:13:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LGDcBd028568 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:13:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmoberg@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65A.62139417" Subject: Moving AS3 forward. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:13:17 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Moving AS3 forward. Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+Q== From: "Dale Moberg" To: Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65A.62139417 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi =20 It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the list that either=20 =20 1. has concerns about it moving forward=20 =20 or=20 =20 2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process? =20 If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a message to the list concerning your position on this. We need to get some indication of the groups's consensus on this in the record. =20 We can then lobby Rik D. =20 Thanks ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65A.62139417 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Hi

     

    It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is = there anyone on the list that either

     

    1. has concerns about it moving forward =

     

    or

     

    2. would like to see it be moved forward in the = standards process?

     

    If you are an implementer or just an interested = party, please post a message to the list concerning your position on this. We = need to get some indication of the groups’s consensus on this in the = record.

     

    We can then lobby Rik D.

     

    Thanks

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65A.62139417-- From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 12:36:35 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ESzsh-0004iu-JB for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:36:35 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA17493 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LGRHj7031442; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:27:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LGRHw0031441; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:27:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.cleo.com (mail2.cleo.com [208.46.32.197]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LGRGa1031411 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DPetta@Cleo.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65C.48DEDDA0" Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:27:09 -0500 Message-ID: <94AC354535B2BA42B14595C66E5168C31BEEC9@EXCHVS01.DFICOMM.DFICOM.COM> Thread-Topic: Moving AS3 forward. Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURA From: "Debra Petta" To: Cc: "Dale Moberg" Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65C.48DEDDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to see it moved forward in the standards process. =20 We've all put a lot of development and testing efforts into our AS3 = products and it would be nice to see some market acceptance for AS3. =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Dale Moberg Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:13 AM To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: Moving AS3 forward. Hi =20 It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the = list that either=20 =20 1. has concerns about it moving forward=20 =20 or=20 =20 2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process? =20 If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a = message to the list concerning your position on this. We need to get = some indication of the groups's consensus on this in the record. =20 We can then lobby Rik D. =20 Thanks ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65C.48DEDDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I'd=20 like to see it moved forward in the standards = process.
     
    We've=20 all put a lot of development and testing efforts into our AS3=20 products
    and it=20 would be nice to see some market acceptance for AS3.
     
    -----Original = Message-----
    From:=20 owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On=20 Behalf Of Dale Moberg
    Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:13 = AM
    To: ietf-ediint@imc.org
    Subject: Moving AS3=20 forward.

    Hi

     

    It seems to me that AS3 = draft is=20 pretty stable. Is there anyone on the list that either=20

     

    1. has concerns about it = moving=20 forward

     

    or =

     

    2. would like to see it = be moved=20 forward in the standards process?

     

    If you are an = implementer or just=20 an interested party, please post a message to the list concerning your = position on this. We need to get some indication of the groups’s = consensus on=20 this in the record.

     

    We can then lobby Rik=20 D.

     

    Thanks

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65C.48DEDDA0-- From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 12:49:53 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET05W-0004lb-Mh for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:49:53 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA18266 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LGfDkl033336; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:41:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LGfD9C033335; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:41:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from genosis.ZION.templarsoftware.com (adsl-71-140-125-50.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [71.140.125.50]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LGfDQS033329 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:41:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andy.Merrill@templarsoftware.com) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:41:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65E.454755E0" Message-ID: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Thread-Topic: Moving AS3 forward. Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAA7oKA From: "Andy Merrill" To: "Dale Moberg" , Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65E.454755E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We would like to see the standard move forward. We have customers looking at moving to AS3 in the next year. =20 Andy ________________________________ From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Dale Moberg Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:13 AM To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: Moving AS3 forward. Hi =20 It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the list that either=20 =20 1. has concerns about it moving forward=20 =20 or=20 =20 2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process? =20 If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a message to the list concerning your position on this. We need to get some indication of the groups's consensus on this in the record. =20 We can then lobby Rik D. =20 Thanks ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65E.454755E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    We would like to see the standard move = forward. =20 We have customers looking at moving to AS3 in the next = year.
     
    Andy

    From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Dale=20 Moberg
    Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:13 AM
    To:=20 ietf-ediint@imc.org
    Subject: Moving AS3 = forward.

    Hi

     

    It seems to me that AS3 = draft is=20 pretty stable. Is there anyone on the list that either=20

     

    1. has concerns about it = moving=20 forward

     

    or =

     

    2. would like to see it be = moved=20 forward in the standards process?

     

    If you are an implementer = or just an=20 interested party, please post a message to the list concerning your = position on=20 this. We need to get some indication of the groups’s consensus on = this in the=20 record.

     

    We can then lobby Rik=20 D.

     

    Thanks

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65E.454755E0-- From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 13:02:13 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET0HS-00025a-40 for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:02:11 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA18767 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:01:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LGsCcY035404; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:54:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LGsCfp035402; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:54:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from outbound1.sopragroup.com (outbound1.z-ptx-11.fr.sopragroup.com [81.80.239.198]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LGsB0Q035376 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:54:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gcolombier@axway.com) Received: by outbound1.sopragroup.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/outbound-A02) with ESMTP id j9LGs1Qw030934; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:54:02 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65F.FD00A541" Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:53:40 +0200 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Moving AS3 forward. Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1A= From: "Colombier Guillaume" To: Cc: "Dale Moberg" , "Debra Petta" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2005 16:55:38.0186 (UTC) FILETIME=[432882A0:01C5D660] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65F.FD00A541 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 Following the AS3 certification this year, and especially our last = conference call, I've been in touch with Terry Harding to discuss scenarios that were part of the certification process = but that, according to me, were not detailed engough in the draft (hosting, not hosting the FTP server = etc...). I know that this is not directly linked to AS3 messages format but more = to the binding with FTP, however I think that this should be addressed in the standard which must be exhaustive = enough for somebody implementing AS3 to sucessfully go through the certification. This is my point and I = would be very pleased to discuss this with the group. I know that Terry had worked on it but I don't know if he had time to = publish a new draft (I haven't received any new document through the e-list). =20 By the way, I agree with Debra, we've all put a lot of development and = testing effort into our product for the AS3 support and I'd like to see it moved forward in the standard process.=20 =20 ________________________________ -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]De la part de Debra Petta Envoy=E9 : vendredi 21 octobre 2005 18:27 =C0 : ietf-ediint@imc.org Cc : Dale Moberg Objet : RE: Moving AS3 forward. I'd like to see it moved forward in the standards process. =20 We've all put a lot of development and testing efforts into our AS3 = products and it would be nice to see some market acceptance for AS3. =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Dale Moberg Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:13 AM To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: Moving AS3 forward. Hi =20 It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the = list that either=20 =20 1. has concerns about it moving forward=20 =20 or=20 =20 2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process? =20 If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a = message to the list concerning your position on this. We need to get = some indication of the groups's consensus on this in the record. =20 We can then lobby Rik D. =20 Thanks ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65F.FD00A541 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi,
     
    Following the AS3 certification this = year,  and=20 especially our last conference call, I've been in touch with=20 Terry
    Harding to discuss scenarios that were = part of the=20 certification process but that, according to me, were=20 not
    detailed engough in the draft =  (hosting,  not=20 hosting the FTP server etc...).
    I=20 know that this is not directly linked to AS3 messages format but = more to=20 the binding with FTP, however I think
    that=20 this should be addressed in the standard which must be exhaustive=20 enough for somebody implementing
    AS3 to sucessfully go through the=20 certification. This is my point and I would be very pleased to discuss=20 this
    with=20 the group.
    I know=20 that Terry had worked on it but I don't know if he had time to = publish a=20 new draft (I haven't received any new
    document through the = e-list).
     
     By the way, I agree = with Debra, we've=20 all put a lot of development and testing effort into our product = for the=20 AS3
    support and I'd like to see it moved = forward in=20 the standard process. 
     

    ________________________________

    -----Message d'origine-----
    De :=20 owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]De la=20 part de Debra Petta
    Envoy=E9 : vendredi 21 octobre = 2005=20 18:27
    =C0 : ietf-ediint@imc.org
    Cc : = Dale=20 Moberg
    Objet : RE: Moving AS3 = forward.

    I'd=20 like to see it moved forward in the standards = process.
     
    We've all put a lot of development and testing efforts into = our AS3=20 products
    and=20 it would be nice to see some market acceptance for = AS3.
     
    -----Original = Message-----
    From:=20 owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On=20 Behalf Of Dale Moberg
    Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 = 11:13=20 AM
    To: ietf-ediint@imc.org
    Subject: Moving AS3=20 forward.

    Hi

     

    It seems to me that = AS3 draft is=20 pretty stable. Is there anyone on the list that either=20

     

    1. has concerns about = it moving=20 forward

     

    or =

     

    2. would like to see = it be moved=20 forward in the standards process?

     

    If you are an = implementer or=20 just an interested party, please post a message to the list = concerning your=20 position on this. We need to get some indication of the = groups’s consensus=20 on this in the record.

     

    We can then lobby Rik=20 D.

     

    Thanks

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65F.FD00A541-- From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 13:03:02 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET0II-000281-EL for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:03:02 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA18800 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LGr9Bt035149; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:53:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LGr91B035148; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:53:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from outbound1.sopragroup.com (outbound1.z-ptx-11.fr.sopragroup.com [81.80.239.198]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LGr7Ks035091 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:53:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tandersson@axway.com) Received: by outbound1.sopragroup.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/outbound-A02) with ESMTP id j9LGr1Qu030699 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:53:01 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65F.D24AE8D1" Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:52:28 +0200 Message-ID: <5D6DB35CD736E64A96DD263239F3E31B351011@wexchbe03.ptx.fr.sopra> Thread-Topic: Moving AS3 forward. Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAADrjjA= From: "Andersson Tony" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2005 16:54:37.0514 (UTC) FILETIME=[1EFEB2A0:01C5D660] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65F.D24AE8D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I second that. =20 Tony Andersson A x w a y. =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Debra Petta Sent: 21 October 2005 17:27 To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Cc: Dale Moberg Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward. I'd like to see it moved forward in the standards process. =20 We've all put a lot of development and testing efforts into our AS3 = products and it would be nice to see some market acceptance for AS3. =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Dale Moberg Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:13 AM To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: Moving AS3 forward. Hi =20 It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the = list that either=20 =20 1. has concerns about it moving forward=20 =20 or=20 =20 2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process? =20 If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a = message to the list concerning your position on this. We need to get = some indication of the groups's consensus on this in the record. =20 We can then lobby Rik D. =20 Thanks ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65F.D24AE8D1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I = second=20 that.
     
    Tony = Andersson
    A x w a=20 y.
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: = owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org=20 [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Debra=20 Petta
    Sent: 21 October 2005 17:27
    To:=20 ietf-ediint@imc.org
    Cc: Dale Moberg
    Subject: RE: = Moving AS3=20 forward.

    I'd=20 like to see it moved forward in the standards = process.
     
    We've=20 all put a lot of development and testing efforts into our AS3=20 products
    and it=20 would be nice to see some market acceptance for AS3.
     
    -----Original = Message-----
    From:=20 owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On=20 Behalf Of Dale Moberg
    Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:13 = AM
    To: ietf-ediint@imc.org
    Subject: Moving AS3=20 forward.

    Hi

     

    It seems to me that AS3 = draft is=20 pretty stable. Is there anyone on the list that either=20

     

    1. has concerns about it = moving=20 forward

     

    or =

     

    2. would like to see it = be moved=20 forward in the standards process?

     

    If you are an = implementer or just=20 an interested party, please post a message to the list concerning your = position on this. We need to get some indication of the groups’s = consensus on=20 this in the record.

     

    We can then lobby Rik=20 D.

     

    Thanks

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D65F.D24AE8D1-- From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 13:19:34 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET0YI-00054n-DO for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:19:34 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA19828 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LHD2Ca038899; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:13:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LHD2tK038898; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:13:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.verisignlabs.com (cliffie.verisignlabs.com [65.201.175.9]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LHD174038892 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:13:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sah@428cobrajet.net) Received: from dul1shollenbl1 ([::ffff:68.100.55.187]) (AUTH: LOGIN shollenb, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,RC4-MD5) by mail.verisignlabs.com with esmtp; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:13:01 -0400 id 005D03CB.4359219D.00005960 From: "Scott Hollenbeck" To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:13:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Speaking as your Area Director, and referencing this message: http://www.imc.org/ietf-ediint/mail-archive/msg01777.html I am glad to finally see some discussion on this mailing list. However, you all need to be aware that simple statements of "I support moving this forward" aren't sufficient to develop standards in the IETF. You need to actually do the design work on this working group mailing list, too! I was encouraged to see the message from Guillaume Colombier describing a potential technical issue. Whether or not this document moves forward depends on how you all deal with comments like that one. If you discuss it here and decide on a solution here I may consider a working group request for publication as a proposed standard. If nothing happens here I can tell you right now that I will not support a request to publish AS3 as a Proposed Standard. The best I will be able to do is to consider publication as an Informational RFC documenting the work of some organization that took place outside the IETF. Remember, IETF standards MUST be developed in the IETF. -Scott- From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 13:22:41 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET0bJ-0006Em-3q for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:22:41 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA20029 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LHCHXA038737; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LHCHDp038736; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:12:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LHCG3k038705 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5D662.931200F5" Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:12:10 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Moving AS3 forward. Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAARqgkA== From: "Terry Harding" To: Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D662.931200F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here are the additional changes I am recommending to the AS3 draft to = support your request for better clarity to the spec. =20 =20 Lets start our discussions here. Please respond to the list.=20 =20 Thanks =20 Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. =20 7.2 Message Disposition Notifications (MDN)=20 =20 The AS3-MDNs are returned on a separate FTP TCP/IP=20 connection and are a response to an AS3 message.=20 =20 The following diagram illustrates the delivery of an=20 AS3-MDN delivery: =20 AS3-MDN [S] ----( connect )----> [R] [FTP Server] [S] ----( send )-------> [R] [AS3-Message] [S] ----( disconnect )-> [R] [FTP Server] =20 [S] <---( connect )----- [R] [FTP Server] [S] <---( send )-------- [R] [AS3-MDN]] [S] <---( disconnect )-- [R] [FTP Server] =20 Note: Refer to Section 7.4.4 for additional programming notes. =20 =20 7.4.4 Additional AS3-MDN Programming Notes =20 9. An AS3 implementation MUST present to its trading partners an ftp compliant server interface where inbound documents and mdns are received. =20 10. An AS3 implementation MUST be able to retrieve inbound messages from it's currently configured ftp server interface. =20 =20 Note: Programming Notes 9 and 10 do not imply any specific method for supplying the ftp server interface. But, does allow for=20 several different types of implementations. Some vendors may choose to imbed an ftp compliant server interface within their = product and others may choose to utilize off-the-shelf ftp = servers to supply the required ftp server interface. Some may choose to = utilize hosting services provide by their trading partner or by = a=20 third party hosting service. Whichever method is utilized, an AS3 implementation MUST support rules 9 and 10. =20 11. AS3 implementations MAY imbed an ftp server interface within = their product.=20 =20 12. AS3 implementations MUST be configurable to allow the use of=20 an external ftp hosting service.=20 =20 Note: An external ftp hosting service may be hosted by a third-party = Or possibly hosted by your trading partner. =20 13. An AS3 implementation MUST be able to send business documents =20 and mdns to a trading partner's currently configured ftp server = interface.=20 =20 14. An AS3 implementation may imbed ftp client code into their = product or use an third-party ftp client. =20 15. Example Configurations =20 1. Peer to Peer TPA is using a local ftp server and TPB is using an imbedded = ftp =20 server.=20 =20 [A Client] ----( connect )----> [B Server] [A Client] ----( send )-------> [B Server] [AS3-Message] [A Client] ----( disconnect )-> [B Server] =20 [A Server] <---( connect )----- [B Client] [A Server] <---( send )-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]] [A Server] <---( disconnect )-- [B Server] [A Client] <---( GET )--------- [A Server] =20 =20 2. Third Party Hosting Both parties are using the same third-party hosted ftp = server. =20 [A Client] ----( connect )----> [Hosted Server] [A Client] ----( send )-------> [Hosted Server] [AS3-Message] [A Client] ----( disconnect )-> [Hosted Server] [Hosted Server]( GET )--------> [B Client] =20 [Hosted Server] <---( connect )----- [B Client] [Hosted Server] <---( send )-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]] [Hosted Server] <---( disconnect )-- [B Client] [A Client] <---( GET )--------- [Hosted Server] = =20 =20 3. Trading Partner Hosting TPA is using the imbedded ftp server hosted by TPB. =20 [A Client] ----( connect )----> [B Server] [A Client] ----( send )-------> [B Server] [AS3-Message] [A Client] ----( disconnect )-> [B Server] =20 [B Server] <---( connect )----- [B Client] [B Server] <---( send )-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]] [B Server] <---( disconnect )-- [B Client] [A Client] <---( GET )--------- [B Server] =20 =20 =20 ________________________________ From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Colombier Guillaume Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:54 AM To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Cc: Dale Moberg; Debra Petta Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward. =20 Hi, =20 Following the AS3 certification this year, and especially our last = conference call, I've been in touch with Terry Harding to discuss scenarios that were part of the certification process = but that, according to me, were not detailed engough in the draft (hosting, not hosting the FTP server = etc...). I know that this is not directly linked to AS3 messages format but more = to the binding with FTP, however I think that this should be addressed in the standard which must be exhaustive = enough for somebody implementing AS3 to sucessfully go through the certification. This is my point and I = would be very pleased to discuss this with the group. I know that Terry had worked on it but I don't know if he had time to = publish a new draft (I haven't received any new document through the e-list). =20 By the way, I agree with Debra, we've all put a lot of development and = testing effort into our product for the AS3 support and I'd like to see it moved forward in the standard process.=20 =20 ________________________________ -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]De la part de Debra Petta Envoy=E9 : vendredi 21 octobre 2005 18:27 =C0 : ietf-ediint@imc.org Cc : Dale Moberg Objet : RE: Moving AS3 forward. I'd like to see it moved forward in the standards process. =20 We've all put a lot of development and testing efforts into our AS3 = products and it would be nice to see some market acceptance for AS3. =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Dale Moberg Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:13 AM To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: Moving AS3 forward. Hi =20 It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the = list that either=20 =20 1. has concerns about it moving forward=20 =20 or=20 =20 2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process? =20 If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a = message to the list concerning your position on this. We need to get = some indication of the groups's consensus on this in the record. =20 We can then lobby Rik D. =20 Thanks ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D662.931200F5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Here are the additional = changes I am recommending to the AS3 draft to support your request for = better

    clarity to the spec.=A0 =

     

    Lets start our discussions = here. =A0Please respond to the list.

     

    Thanks

     

    Terry Harding

    Cyclone Commerce = Inc.

     

    7.2=A0 Message Disposition Notifications (MDN)

     

    =A0=A0 The AS3-MDNs are = returned on a separate FTP TCP/IP

    =A0=A0 connection and are a = response to an AS3 message.

    =A0=A0 =

    =A0=A0 The following = diagram illustrates the delivery of an

    =A0=A0 AS3-MDN = delivery:

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = AS3-MDN

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = [S] ----( connect )----> [R]=A0=A0 [FTP Server]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = [S] ----( send )-------> [R]=A0=A0 [AS3-Message]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = [S] ----( disconnect )-> [R]=A0=A0 [FTP Server]

     

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = [S] <---( connect )----- [R]=A0=A0 [FTP Server]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = [S] <---( send )-------- [R]=A0=A0 [AS3-MDN]]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = [S] <---( disconnect )-- [R]=A0=A0 [FTP Server]

     

    =A0=A0=A0 Note:=A0 Refer to = Section 7.4.4 for additional

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= programming notes.

     

     

    7.4.4=A0 Additional AS3-MDN Programming Notes

     

    =A0=A0=A0 9.=A0 An AS3 = implementation MUST present to its trading partners

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 an = ftp compliant server interface where inbound documents

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 and = mdns are received.

    =A0=

    =A0=A0 10.=A0 An AS3 = implementation MUST be able to retrieve inbound

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = messages from it's currently configured ftp server interface.=A0

     

    =A0=A0 Note: Programming = Notes 9 and 10 do not imply any specific method

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = for supplying the ftp server interface. But, does allow for

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = several different types of implementations.=A0 Some vendors may

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = choose to imbed an ftp compliant server interface within their=A0

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = product and others may choose to utilize off-the-shelf ftp servers

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 to = supply the required ftp server interface. Some may choose to

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = utilize hosting services provide by their trading partner or by a

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = third party hosting service. Whichever method is utilized, an

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = AS3 implementation MUST support rules 9 and 10.

     

    =A0=A0=A0 11.=A0 AS3 = implementations MAY imbed an ftp server interface within their

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = product.

     

    =A0=A0=A0 12.=A0 AS3 = implementations MUST be configurable to allow the use of

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 an = external ftp hosting service.

     

    =A0=A0=A0 Note: An external = ftp hosting service may be hosted by a third-party

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = Or possibly hosted by your trading partner.

     

    =A0=A0=A0 13.=A0 An AS3 = implementation MUST be able to send business documents=A0

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = and mdns to a trading partner's currently configured ftp server

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = interface.

     

    =A0=A0=A0 14.=A0 An AS3 = implementation may imbed ftp client code into their product

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 or = use an third-party ftp client.

     

    =A0=A0=A0 15.=A0 Example = Configurations

    =A0=A0 =

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1. = Peer to Peer

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0 TPA is using a local ftp server and TPB is using an imbedded ftp

     

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0 server.

     

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client] ----( connect )----> [B Server]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client] ----( send )-------> [B Server] [AS3-Message]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client] ----( disconnect )-> [B Server]

     

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Server] <---( connect )----- [B Client]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Server] <---( send )-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Server] <---( disconnect )-- [B Server]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client] <---( GET )--------- [A Server]=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =

     

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2. = Third Party Hosting

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0 Both parties are using the same third-party hosted ftp server.

     

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client] ----( connect )----> [Hosted Server]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client] ----( send )-------> [Hosted Server] [AS3-Message]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client] ----( disconnect )-> [Hosted Server]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = [Hosted Server]( GET )--------> [B Client]

     

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = [Hosted Server] <---( connect )----- [B Client]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = [Hosted Server] <---( send )-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = [Hosted Server] <---( disconnect )-- [B Client]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client]=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 <---( GET )--------- [Hosted Server]=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =

     

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 3. = Trading Partner Hosting

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0 TPA is using the imbedded ftp server hosted by TPB.

     

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client] ----( connect )----> [B Server]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client] ----( send )-------> [B Server] [AS3-Message]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client] ----( disconnect )-> [B Server]

     

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [B = Server] <---( connect )----- [B Client]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [B = Server] <---( send )-------- [B Client] [AS3-MDN]]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [B = Server] <---( disconnect )-- [B Client]

    =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 [A = Client] <---( GET )--------- [B Server]=A0

     

     

    From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org] = On Behalf Of Colombier = Guillaume
    Sent: Friday, October 21, = 2005 9:54 AM
    To: = ietf-ediint@imc.org
    Cc: Dale Moberg; Debra Petta
    Subject: RE: Moving AS3 = forward.

     

    Hi,

     

    Following the AS3 certification = this year,  and especially our last conference call, I've been in touch = with Terry
    Harding to discuss scenarios that were part of the certification = process but that, according to me, were not

    detailed engough in the draft  (hosting,  not hosting the FTP server = etc...).

    I know that this is not = directly linked to AS3 messages format but more to the binding with = FTP, however I think

    that this should be addressed in = the standard which must be exhaustive enough for somebody = implementing

    AS3 to sucessfully go = through the certification. This is my point and I would be very pleased to = discuss this

    with the = group.

    I know that Terry had worked = on it but I don't know if he had time to publish a new draft (I haven't = received any new

    document through the = e-list).

     

     By the way, I agree with Debra, we've all put a lot of development and testing = effort into our product for the AS3

    support and I'd like to see it = moved forward in the standard process. 

     

    = ________________________________

    -----Message = d'origine-----
    De : owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org = [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]De la part de Debra Petta
    Envoy=E9 : vendredi = 21 octobre 2005 18:27
    =C0 : = ietf-ediint@imc.org
    Cc : Dale Moberg
    Objet : RE: Moving = AS3 forward.

    I'd like to see it moved forward in = the standards process.

     

    We've all put a lot of development = and testing efforts into our AS3 products

    and it would be nice to see some = market acceptance for AS3.

     

    -----Original = Message-----
    From: = owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Dale = Moberg
    Sent: Friday, October 21, = 2005 11:13 AM
    To: = ietf-ediint@imc.org
    Subject: Moving AS3 = forward.

    Hi

     

    It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is = there anyone on the list that either

     

    1. has concerns about it moving forward =

     

    or

     

    2. would like to see it be moved forward in the = standards process?

     

    If you are an implementer or just an interested = party, please post a message to the list concerning your position on this. We = need to get some indication of the groups’s consensus on this in the = record.

     

    We can then lobby Rik D.

     

    Thanks

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D662.931200F5-- From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 13:50:06 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET11p-0005zD-VS for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:50:06 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA21344 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LHgIGR044943; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LHgIrJ044942; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LHgH91044924 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:42:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: AS3 Discusion - Abstract Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:42:11 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Abstract Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYAABMavA From: "Terry Harding" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LHgH91044936 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Since the AS3 document has been discussed extensively off this list, I will be submitting each individual section of the document for review and comments. Please forward any suggestions of changes to the list. ***************************** Abstract This Applicability Statement (AS) describes how to exchange structured business data securely using the File Transfer Protocol (FTP) for XML, Binary, Electronic Data Interchange (EDI - ANSI X12 or UN/EDIFACT), or other data used for business-to-business data interchange for which MIME packaging can be accomplished using standard MIME content-types. Authentication and data confidentiality are obtained by using Cryptographic Message Syntax (S/MIME) security body parts. Authenticated acknowledgements employ multipart/signed replies to the original message. ****************************** Thanks Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Scott Hollenbeck Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:13 AM To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward. Speaking as your Area Director, and referencing this message: http://www.imc.org/ietf-ediint/mail-archive/msg01777.html I am glad to finally see some discussion on this mailing list. However, you all need to be aware that simple statements of "I support moving this forward" aren't sufficient to develop standards in the IETF. You need to actually do the design work on this working group mailing list, too! I was encouraged to see the message from Guillaume Colombier describing a potential technical issue. Whether or not this document moves forward depends on how you all deal with comments like that one. If you discuss it here and decide on a solution here I may consider a working group request for publication as a proposed standard. If nothing happens here I can tell you right now that I will not support a request to publish AS3 as a Proposed Standard. The best I will be able to do is to consider publication as an Informational RFC documenting the work of some organization that took place outside the IETF. Remember, IETF standards MUST be developed in the IETF. -Scott- From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 13:58:33 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET1A1-0001ol-RV for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:58:33 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA21838 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LHowK7047228; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:50:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LHowDw047227; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:50:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LHovRq047207 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: AS3 Discusion - Introduction Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:50:51 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Introduction Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYAABMavAAAByXeA= From: "Terry Harding" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LHovRq047222 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Open for discussion 1. Introduction Previous work on Internet EDI focused on specifying MIME content types for EDI data [2] and extending this work to support secure EC/EDI transport over SMTP [5]. This document expands on RFC 1767 to specify a comprehensive set of data security features, specifically data privacy, data integrity, authenticity, non-repudiation of origin and non-repudiation of receipt over FTP. This document also recognizes contemporary RFCs and is attempting to "re-invent" as little as possible. While this document focuses on EDI data, any other data type describable in a MIME format are also supported. Internet MIME based EDI can be accomplished by using and complying with the following RFC's and Internet drafts: -RFC 959 File Transfer Protocol -RFC 2228 FTP Security Extensions -RFC 1767 EDI Content Type -RFC 3023 XML Media Types -RFC 1847 Security Multiparts for MIME -RFC 1892 Multipart/Report -RFC 2045 to 2049 MIME RFC's -RFC 2298 Message Disposition Notification -RFC 2630, 2632, 2633: S/MIME v3 Specifications -RFC 3274 Compressed Data Content for Cryptographic Message Syntax -draft-ietf-ediint-compression-02.txt Our intent here is to define clearly and precisely how these are used together, and what is required by user agents to be compliant with this document. The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119. ***************************************************** Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 14:10:19 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET1LP-0001lj-4u for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:10:19 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA22308 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LI1aWR049837; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:01:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LI1a0N049836; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:01:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LI1Zww049811 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:01:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: AS3 Discusion - Overview Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:01:29 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Overview Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYAABMavAAAByXeAAAFiJ0A== From: "Terry Harding" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LI1Zww049831 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Open for discussion 2.0 Overview 2.1 Overall Operations A FTP upload operation is used to send appropriately-packaged EDI, XML, or other business data. The receiving application will poll the FTP server for inbound messages, unpackage and handle the message data and generate a reply for the originator that contains a message disposition acknowledgement within a multipart/report that is signed or unsigned. This request/reply transactional interchange provides secure, reliable, and authenticated transport for EDI or other business data using FTP. The security protocols and structures Harding, Scott [Page 3] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 used also support auditable records of these transmissions. 2.2 Purpose of a security guideline for MIME EDI The purpose of these specifications is to ensure interoperability between B2B Electronic Commerce user agents, invoking some or all of the commonly expected security features. This document is also NOT limited to strict EDI use, but applies to any electronic commerce application where business data needs to be exchanged over the Internet in a secure manner. 2.3 Definitions 2.3.1. Terms EDI Electronic Data Interchange EC Business to Business Electronic Commerce B2B Business to Business Receipt The functional message that is sent from a receiver to a sender to acknowledge receipt of an EDI/EC interchange. Signed Receipt A receipt containing a digital signature. Message Disposition The Internet messaging format used to convey a Notification (MDN) receipt. This term is used interchangeably with receipt. A MDN is a receipt. Non-repudiation of NRR is a "legal event" that occurs when the receipt (NRR) original sender of an EDI/EC interchange has verified the signed receipt coming back from the receiver. NRR IS NOT a functional or a technical message. S/MIME A format and protocol for adding Cryptographic signature and/or encryption services to Internet MIME messages. NOTE: While the S/MIME specification describes more than one format for a signed message, all signed messages or receipts used with AS3 MUST utilize the multipart/signed format. SHA-1 A secure, one-way hash algorithm used in conjunction with digital signature. SHA-1 is the recommend algorithm for AS3. MD5 A secure, one-way hash algorithm used in conjunction with digital signature. This algorithm is acceptable but not recommended due to its short key length and known weaknesses. Harding, Scott [Page 4] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 MIC The message integrity check (MIC) is a representation of the message digest, which results from the application of the selected hash algorithm to the content to be signed. Of particular interest is the the digital signature, which includes an encrypted copy of the digest. Additionally, an MDN containing a Received-Content-MIC" header will also contain (as that header's value) a base-64 encoded representation of the digest. User Agent (UA) The application that handles and processes the AS3 request. STL Secure Transmission Loop, described in the next section 2.3.2 The Secure Transmission Loop This document's focus is on the formats and protocols for exchanging EDI/EC content to which security services have been applied using the File Transmission Protocol (FTP) as the transport. The "Secure Transmission Loop" (STL) comprises the following two steps: a) The originator sends a signed and encrypted document with a request for a signed receipt. b) The recipient decrypts the document, verifies the signature, and returns a signed receipt to the sender. In other words, the following events occur during the execution of the STL: - The organization sending EDI/EC data signs and encrypts the data using S/MIME. In addition, the message will request a signed receipt to be returned to the sender of the message. - The receiving organization decrypts the message and verifies the signature, resulting in verified integrity of the data and authenticity of the sender. - The receiving organization then returns a signed receipt, as requested to the sending organization in the form of a message disposition notification. This signed receipt will contain the hash of the signature from the received message, indicating to the sender that the received message was verified and/or decrypted properly. The above describes functionality which, if implemented, will satisfy all security requirements and provide non-repudiation of receipt for the exchange. While trading partners will usually want to utilize the STL, this specification does not require it. 2.3.3 Definition of Receipts Harding, Scott [Page 5] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 The term used for both the functional activity and the message for acknowledging delivery of an EDI/EC interchange is "receipt" or "signed receipt". The term receipt is used if the acknowledgment is for an interchange resulting in a receipt which is NOT signed. The term signed receipt is used if the acknowledgment is for an interchange resulting in a receipt which IS signed. A term often used in combination with receipts is non-repudiation of receipt. NRR refers to a legal event which occurs only when the original sender of an interchange has verified the signed receipt coming back from the recipient of the message. Note that NRR is not possible without signatures. For additional information on formatting and processing receipts in AS3, refer to section 7. 2.4 Operational assumptions and options 2.4.1 EDI/EC process assumptions - Encrypted object is an EDI/EC Interchange This specification assumes that a typical EDI/EC interchange is the lowest level object that will be subject to the application of security services. Specifically, for EDI ANSI X12, the entire document (including the ISA and IEA segments) is the atom to which security is applied. For EDIFACT, the corresponding definition includes segments UNA/UNB and UNZ. In other words, EDI/EC interchanges including envelope segments remain intact and unreadable during secure transport. - EDI envelope headers are encrypted Congruent with the above statement, EDI envelope headers are NOT visible in the MIME package. In order to optimize routing from existing commercial EDI networks (called Value Added Networks or VANs) to the Internet, work may need to be done in the future to define ways to extract some elements of the envelope to make them visible; however, that is beyond the scope of this specification. - X12.58 and UN/EDIFACT security considerations The most common EDI standards bodies, ANSI X12 and EDIFACT, have defined internal provisions for security. X12.58 is the security mechanism for ANSI X12 and AUTACK provides security for EDIFACT. This specification DOES NOT dictate use or non-use of these security standards. They are both fully compatible, though possibly redundant, with this specification. 2.4.2 Process options 2.4.2.1 Security options - Encrypted or un-encrypted data Harding, Scott [Page 6] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 This specification allows for EDI/EC message exchange where the EDI/EC data can be either un-protected or protected by means of encryption. - Signed or unsigned data This specification allows for EDI/EC message exchange with or without digital signature of the original EDI transmission. - Use of receipt or not This specification allows for EDI/EC message transmission with or without a request for receipt notification. If a signed receipt notification is requested however, a MIC value is REQUIRED as part of the returned receipt, unless an error condition occurs which results in the inability to compute a valid digest. (Such a case would result, for instance, if an encrypted message could not be decrypted.) Under such circumstances, an unsigned receipt (MDN) SHOULD be returned with the correct "disposition modifier" error value. - Security Formatting This specification relies on the guidelines set forth in RFCs 2630 [9] and 2633 [10]. The first of these RFCs describes the Cryptograpic Message Syntax (CMS) and the second contains the S/MIME Version 3 Message Specification describing a MIME container for CMS objects. Whenever the term S/MIME is used in this document, it refers to Version 3 as described therein. - Hash function, message digest choices When a signature is used, it is RECOMMENDED that the SHA-1 hash algorithm be used for all outgoing messages; however, both MD5 and SHA-1 MUST be supported for incoming messages. - Permutation Summary In summary, the following twelve security permutations are possible in any given trading relationship: 1. Sender sends un-encrypted data, does NOT request a receipt. 2. Sender sends un-encrypted data, requests an unsigned receipt. The receiver sends back the unsigned receipt. 3. Sender sends un-encrypted data, requests a signed receipt. The receiver sends back the signed receipt. 4. Sender sends encrypted data, does NOT request a receipt. 5. Sender sends encrypted data, requests an unsigned receipt. The receiver sends back the unsigned receipt. 6. Sender sends encrypted data, requests a signed receipt. The Harding, Scott [Page 7] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 receiver sends back the signed receipt. 7. Sender sends signed data, does NOT request a receipt. 8. Sender sends signed data, requests an unsigned receipt. Receiver sends back the unsigned receipt. 9. Sender sends signed data, requests a signed receipt. Receiver sends back the signed receipt. 10. Sender sends encrypted and signed data, does NOT request a receipt. 11. Sender sends encrypted and signed data, requests an unsigned receipt. Receiver sends back the unsigned receipt. 12. Sender sends encrypted and signed data, requests a signed receipt. Receiver sends back the signed receipt. This case represents the Secure Transmission Loop described above. 2.4.2.2 Compression options The AS3 specification supports compression of transmitted data directly through the application of RFC 3274. Implementation details may be found in that RFC and in Harding's draft, "Compressed Data for EDIINT", currently on a parallel standards track. Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 14:14:30 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET1PS-0002sR-8V for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:14:30 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA22705 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LI7BeI050988; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:07:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LI7BYl050987; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:07:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LI7APq050971 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: AS3 Discusion - Section 3 - Referenced RFCs Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:07:04 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Section 3 - Referenced RFCs Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYAABMavAAAByXeAAAJIMoA== From: "Terry Harding" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LI7APq050982 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Open for discussion 3. Referenced RFC's and their contribution 3.1 RFC 959: File Transfer Protocol [3] RFC 959 specifies how data is transferred using the File Transfer Protocol (FTP) 3.2 RFC 2228: FTP Security Extensions [4] This RFC describes a framework for providing security services to FTP. 3.3 RFC 1847: MIME Security Multiparts [7] This document defines security multiparts for MIME: multipart/encrypted and multipart/signed. 3.4 RFC 1892: Multipart/report [12] RFC 1892 defines the use of the multipart/report content type, upon which RFC 2298 builds to define the Message Disposition Notification. 3.5 RFC 1767: EDI Content [2] This RFC defines the use of content type "application" for ANSI X12 (application/EDI-X12), EDIFACT (application/EDIFACT) and mutually defined EDI (application/EDI-Consent). 3.6 RFC 2045, 2046, and 2049: MIME [1] Harding, Scott [Page 8] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 These are the basic MIME standards, upon which all MIME related RFCs build, including this one. Key contributions include definition of "content type", "sub-type" and "multipart", as well as encoding guidelines, which establishes 7-bit US-ASCII as the canonical character set to be used in Internet messaging. 3.7 RFC 2298: Message Disposition Notification [6] This Internet RFC defines how a Message Disposition Notification (MDN) is requested, as well as the format and syntax of the MDN. The MDN is the vehicle used by this specification to provide both signed and unsigned receipts. 3.8 RFC 2630:CMS[9] and 2633 S/MIME Version 3 Message Specifications[10]. This specification describes how MIME shall carry Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) Objects. 3.9 RFC 2632: S/MIME Version 3 Certificate Handling [11] RFC 2632 describes certificate handling in the context of CMS and S/MIME. 3.10 RFC 3274: Compressed Data Content Type for Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) [17] This specification provides a mechanism to wrap compressed data within a CMS object. 3.11 RFC 3023: XML Media Types [16] This RFC defines the use of content type "application" for XML. Note that while conforming implementations SHOULD support the expanded syntax that RFC 3023 introduces for the "+xml" suffix, no support for external parsed entity types is anticipated (as it adds significant complexity to signature processing). ***************************************************** Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 14:16:46 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET1Re-0003pP-BV for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:16:46 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA23123 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:16:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LI9n87051155; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:09:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LI9nbA051154; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:09:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LI9nxH051142 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:09:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: AS3 Discusion - Section 4 - Structure of AS3 Message Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:09:43 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Section 4 - Structure of AS3 Message Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYAABMavAAAByXeAAAKFmkA== From: "Terry Harding" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LI9nxH051148 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Open for discussion 4. Structure of an AS3 message 4.1 Introduction The basic structure of AS3 messages comprises MIME encapsulated data with both customary MIME headers and a few additional AS3-specific outer headers. The structures below are described hierarchically in terms of which RFCs have been applied to form the specific structure. The reader is referred directly to the referenced RFCs for implementation details. Any additional restrictions imposed by this AS are specifically discussed in the sections which follow. 4.2 Structure of an Internet EDI MIME message No encryption, no signature -RFC822/2045 -RFC1767/RFC2376 (application/EDIxxxx or /xml) Harding, Scott [Page 9] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 No encryption, signature -RFC822/2045 -RFC1847 (multipart/signed) -RFC1767/RFC2376 (application/EDIxxxx or /xml) -RFC2633 (application/pkcs7-signature) Encryption, no signature -RFC822/2045 -RFC2633 (application/pkcs7-mime) -RFC1767/RFC2376 (application/EDIxxxx or /xml)(encrypted) Encryption, signature -RFC822/2045 -RFC2633 (application/pkcs7-mime) -RFC1847 (multipart/signed)(encrypted) -RFC1767/RFC2376 (application/EDIxxxx or /xml)(encrypted) -RFC2633 (application/pkcs7-signature)(encrypted) MDN, no signature -RFC822/2045 -RFC2298 (message/disposition-notification) MDN, signature -RFC822/2045 -RFC1847 (multipart/signed) -RFC2298 (message/disposition-notification) -RFC2633 (application/pkcs7-signature) While all MIME content types SHOULD be supported. The following MIME content types MUST be supported: Content-type: multipart/signed Content-Type: multipart/report Content-type: message/disposition-notification Content-Type: application/PKCS7-signature Content-Type: application/PKCS7-mime Content-Type: application/EDI-X12 Content-Type: application/EDIFACT Content-Type: application/edi-consent Content-Type: application/XML ***************************************************** Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 14:21:17 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET1W1-0008Fq-FD for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:21:17 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA23598 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIBoRC051381; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:11:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LIBovO051380; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:11:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIBnmP051369 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: AS3 Discusion - Section 5 - AS3-Specific Headers Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:11:43 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Section 5 - AS3-Specific Headers Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYAABMavAAAByXeAAAL7U0A== From: "Terry Harding" To: "Terry Harding" , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LIBnmP051375 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Open for discussion 5. AS3-specific Headers 5.1 AS3-From and AS3-To headers The AS3-From and AS3-To headers have been provided to assist the sender and the recipient of an EC document to identify each other: AS3-From: < AS3-name > AS3-To: < AS3-name > Harding, Scott [Page 10] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 These headers contain textual values, described by the ABNF below, identifying the sender/receiver of a data exchange. A value may be company specific (e.g., a DUNS number), or it may be simply some string mutually acceptable to both trading partners used to identify each to the other. AS3-text = "!" / ; printable ASCII characters %d35-91 / ; except double-quote (%d34) %d93-126 ; or backslash (%d92) AS3-qtext = AS3-text / SP ; allow space only in quoted text AS3-quoted-pair = "\" DQUOTE / ; \" or "\" "\" ; \\ AS3-quoted-name = DQUOTE 1*128( AS3-qtext / AS3-quoted-pair) DQUOTE AS3-atomic-name = 1*128AS3-text AS3-name = AS3-atomic-name / AS3-quoted-name The AS3-From header value and the AS3-To header value MUST each be an AS3-name comprising 1 to 128 printable ASCII characters. The header MUST NOT be folded, and the value for each of these headers is case-sensitive. The AS3-quoted-name SHOULD be used only if the AS3-name does not conform to AS3-atomic-name. The AS3-To and AS3-From header fields MUST be present in all AS3 messages and AS3 MDN's. Implementations which map entities such as EDI identifiers/qualifiers to AS3 identifiers may choose to constrain the set of AS3-To/AS3-From text values to a subset of the full set defined above but may not extend that set. If either the AS3-From or the AS3-To or the association of the two header values is determined to be invalid or unknown to the receiving system, the receiving system MAY respond with an unsigned MDN containing an explanation of the error if the sending system requested an MDN, but it is not required to return an MDN under those circumstances. 5.2 AS3-Version header The AS3-Version header is a header which is required only if the value of the header is not "1.0". Its purpose is to allow systems to determine which version of this specification, should the specification evolve over time, the sender of a document has used to package the document. A user agent MUST NOT reject a message if the version header is missing. AS3-Version: 1*DIGIT . 1*DIGIT Harding, Scott [Page 11] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 A version header value of "1.1" indicates an implementation can support EDIINT data compression [18]. A user agent MUST NOT send compressed messages to trading partners who do not use a version header of "1.1" or greater. ***************************************************** Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 14:22:01 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET1Wj-0000cd-7l for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:22:01 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA23644 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIEcQB052272; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LIEcTw052271; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:14:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIEbeb052251 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:14:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: AS3 Discusion - Section 6 - FTP Considerations Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:14:32 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Section 6 - FTP Considerations Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYAABMavAAAByXeAAANDSQA== From: "Terry Harding" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LIEceb052266 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Open for discussion 6. FTP Considerations 6.1 FTP Security Requirements FTP has long been viewed as an insecure protocol primarily because of its use of cleartext authentication [FTP]. This is addressed by RFC 2228, and the use of one of the security mechanisms described therein is strongly encouraged. Specifically, conforming implementations of AS3 SHALL employ FTP client/servers that support the AUTH command described within [SFTP]. While any authentication mechanism based upon [SFTP] MAY be utilized, AUTH TLS (as described in [MURRAY]) MUST be supported. 6.2 Large file transfers Large files are handled correctly by the TCP layer. However, there is the mechanism for compressing data referenced in section 2.4.2.2 above which efficiently reduces transmission requirements for many data types (including both XML and traditional EDI data.) Additionally, some FTP implementations support compression as well. 6.3 MIME Considerations for FTP 6.3.1 Required/Optional Headers An AS3 message MUST contain the following outer headers: AS3-To AS3-From Date Message-ID Content-Type An AS3 message OPTIONALLY MAY contain the following outer headers: Subject AS3-Version (assumed to be 1.0 if not present) Content-Length An AS3 message requesting a receipt MUST contain a Disposition-Notification-To header and MAY contain a Disposition-Notification-Options header(if the receipt is to be signed) Additional headers MAY be present but are ignored. 6.3.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding Not Used FTP defines several data structures and character encodings via the STRU[cture] and TYPE commands. AS3 requires the file-structure (default) and the image type. The Content-Transfer-Encoding header SHOULD NOT be used; if the header is present, it MUST have a value of binary or 8-bit, Harding, Scott [Page 12] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 and the absence of this header MUST NOT result in transaction failure. Content transfer encoding of MIME parts within the AS3 message are similarly constrained. 6.3.3 Epilogue Must Be Empty A MIME message containing an epilogue [MIME] SHALL NOT be used. 6.3.4 Message-Id and Original-Message-Id Message-Id and Original-Message-Id are formatted as defined in section 3.6.4 of RFC2822 [15]: "<" id-left "@" id-right ">". Message-Id length is a maximum of 998 characters. Message-Id SHOULD be globally unique, id-right should be something unique to the sending host environment (e.g. a host name). When sending a message, always include the angle brackets. Angle brackets are not part of the Message-Id value. NOTE: When creating the Original-Message-Id header in an MDN, always use the exact syntax contained in the original message: do not strip or add "angle brackets". ***************************************************** Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 14:23:39 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET1YJ-0001om-Aa for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:23:39 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA23768 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIGug4053107; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LIGuHj053106; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:16:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mtagate4.uk.ibm.com (mtagate4.uk.ibm.com [195.212.29.137]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIGtXs053080 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:16:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulfordh@uk.ibm.com) Received: from d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.38.185]) by mtagate4.uk.ibm.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9LIGn34012384 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:16:49 GMT Received: from d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.37.216]) by d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.10/NCO/VERS6.7) with ESMTP id j9LIGnOd235890 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:16:49 +0100 Received: from d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9LIGnn3021864 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:16:49 +0100 Received: from d06ml068.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06ml068.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.38.194]) by d06av04.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9LIGnul021859 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:16:49 +0100 To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: AS3 Discusion - Introduction X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.2CF1 June 9, 2003 From: Paul V Ford-Hutchinson Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:16:47 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D06ML068/06/M/IBM(Release 6.53HF247 | January 6, 2005) at 21/10/2005 19:16:48, Serialize complete at 21/10/2005 19:16:48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Hi there, Isn't draft-murray-auth-ftp-ssl-16.txt missing from this list? It appears to be mandated in section 6.1 (I'm assuming that the reference to [MURRAY] is just this). Paul. -- Paul Ford-Hutchinson, CISSP : eCommerce application security e: paulfordh@uk.ibm.com e: paul.ford-hutchinson@g-international.com p: MPT-6, IBM , PO Box 31, Birmingham Rd, Warwick, CV34 5JL t: +44 (0)1926 462005 w: http://www.ford-hutchinson.com/~fh-1-pfh/ftps-ext.html __________________ Open for discussion 1. Introduction Previous work on Internet EDI focused on specifying MIME content types for EDI data [2] and extending this work to support secure EC/EDI transport over SMTP [5]. This document expands on RFC 1767 to specify a comprehensive set of data security features, specifically data privacy, data integrity, authenticity, non-repudiation of origin and non-repudiation of receipt over FTP. This document also recognizes contemporary RFCs and is attempting to "re-invent" as little as possible. While this document focuses on EDI data, any other data type describable in a MIME format are also supported. Internet MIME based EDI can be accomplished by using and complying with the following RFC's and Internet drafts: -RFC 959 File Transfer Protocol -RFC 2228 FTP Security Extensions -RFC 1767 EDI Content Type -RFC 3023 XML Media Types -RFC 1847 Security Multiparts for MIME -RFC 1892 Multipart/Report -RFC 2045 to 2049 MIME RFC's -RFC 2298 Message Disposition Notification -RFC 2630, 2632, 2633: S/MIME v3 Specifications -RFC 3274 Compressed Data Content for Cryptographic Message Syntax -draft-ietf-ediint-compression-02.txt Our intent here is to define clearly and precisely how these are used together, and what is required by user agents to be compliant with this document. The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119. ***************************************************** Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 14:24:41 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET1ZI-00037M-R0 for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:24:41 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA23843 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIHUhm053219; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:17:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LIHUjt053218; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:17:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIHTEf053201 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:17:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: AS3 Discusion - Section 7 - Structure and Processing of an MDN Message Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:17:23 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Section 7 - Structure and Processing of an MDN Message Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYAABMavAAAByXeAAAPEy8A== From: "Terry Harding" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LIHTEf053213 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Open for discussion 7. Structure and Processing of an MDN Message 7.1 Introduction In order to support non-repudiation of receipt, a signed receipt, based on digitally signing a message disposition notification, is to be implemented by a receiving trading partner's UA. The message disposition notification specified by RFC 2298 is digitally signed by a receiving trading partner as part of a multipart/signed MIME message. The following support for signed receipts is REQUIRED: 1) The ability to create a multipart/report; where the report-type = disposition-notification. 2) The ability to calculate a message integrity check (MIC) on the received message. The calculated MIC value will be returned to the sender of the message inside the signed receipt. 3) The ability to create a multipart/signed content with the message disposition notification as the first body part, and the signature as the second body part. 4) The ability to return the signed receipt to the sending trading partner. The signed receipt is used to notify a sending trading partner that requested the signed receipt that: 1) The receiving trading partner acknowledges receipt of the sent EC Interchange. 2) If the sent message was signed, then the receiving trading partner Harding, Scott [Page 13] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 has authenticated the sender of the EC Interchange. 3) If the sent message was signed, then the receiving trading partner has verified the integrity of the sent EC Interchange. Regardless of whether the EDI/EC Interchange was sent in S/MIME format or not, the receiving trading partner's UA MUST provide the following basic processing: 1) If the sent EDI/EC Interchange is encrypted, then the encrypted symmetric key and initialization vector (if applicable) is decrypted using the receiver's private key. 2) The decrypted symmetric encryption key is then used to decrypt the EDI/EC Interchange. 3) The receiving trading partner authenticates signatures in a message using the sender's public key. The authentication algorithm performs the following: a) The message integrity check (MIC or Message Digest), is decrypted using the sender's public key. b) A MIC on the signed contents (the MIME header and encoded EDI object, as per RFC 1767) in the message received is calculated using the same one-way hash function that the sending trading partner used. c) The MIC extracted from the message that was sent, and the MIC calculated using the same one-way hash function that the sending trading partner used is compared for equality. 4) The receiving trading partner formats the MDN and sets the calculated MIC into the "Received-content-MIC" extension field. 5) The receiving trading partner creates a multipart/signed MIME message according to RFC 1847. 6) The MDN is the first part of the multipart/signed message, and the digital signature is created over this MDN, including its MIME headers. 7) The second part of the multipart/signed message contains the digital signature. The "protocol" option specified in the second part of the multipart/signed is as follows: S/MIME: protocol = "application/pkcs7-signature" 8) The signature information is formatted according to S/MIME specifications. The EC Interchange and the RFC 1767 MIME EDI content header can actually be part of a multi-part MIME content-type. When the EDI Interchange is part of a multi-part MIME content-type, the MIC MUST be calculated across the entire multi-part content, including the MIME headers. The signed MDN, when received by the sender of the EDI Interchange can Harding, Scott [Page 14] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 be used by the sender: 1) As an acknowledgment that the EDI Interchange sent, was delivered and acknowledged by the receiving trading partner. The receiver does this by returning the original-message-id of the sent message in the MDN portion of the signed receipt. 2) As an acknowledgment that the integrity of the EDI Interchange was verified by the receiving trading partner. The receiver does this by returning the calculated MIC of the received EC Interchange (and 1767 MIME headers) in the "Received-content-MIC" field of the signed MDN. 3) As an acknowledgment that the receiving trading partner has authenticated the sender of the EDI Interchange. 4) As a non-repudiation of receipt when the signed MDN is successfully verified by the sender with the receiving trading partner's public key and the returned MIC value inside the MDN is the same as the digest of the original message. 7.2 Message Disposition Notifications (MDN) The AS3-MDNs are returned on a separate FTP TCP/IP connection and are a response to an AS3 message. The following diagram illustrates the delivery of an AS3-MDN delivery: AS3-MDN [S] ----( connect )----> [R] [FTP Server] [S] ----( send )-------> [R] [AS3-Message] [S] ----( disconnect )-> [R] [FTP Server] [S] <---( connect )----- [R] [FTP Server] [S] <---( send )-------- [R] [AS3-MDN]] [S] <---( disconnect )-- [R] [FTP Server] 7.3 Requesting a signed receipt Message Disposition Notifications are requested as per RFC 2298. A request that the receiving user agent issue a message disposition notification is made by placing the following header into the message to be sent: MDN-request-header = "Disposition-notification-to" ":" ftp-url This syntax is a residual of the use of MDN's in a SMTP transfer. Since this specification is adjusting the functionality from SMTP to FTP and retaining as much as possible from the [5] functionality, the ftp-url must be present. The ftp-url field is specified as an RFC 1738 , and while it MUST be present, it may be ignored if the ftp-url points to an unknown location. If the Harding, Scott [Page 15] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 ftp-url points to an unknown location it is RECOMMENDED that the mdn is returned back to a known ftp-url for the sender of the received message. For requesting MDN based receipts, the originator supplies the required extension headers that precede the message body. The header "tags" are as follows: A Disposition-notification-to header is added to indicate that a message disposition notification is requested. This header is specified in [6]. A Message-ID header is added to support message reconciliation, so that an Original-Message-Id value can be returned in the body part of MDN. Other headers, especially "Date", SHOULD be supplied; the values of these headers are often mentioned in the human-readable section of a MDN to aid in identifying the original message. Disposition-notification-options identifies characteristics of message Disposition notification in accordance with [6]. EXAMPLE: Disposition-notification-to: // Requests the MDN ftp://host:port/inbox // Location to return MDN Disposition-notification-options: // The signing options for MDN signed-receipt-protocol=optional, pkcs7-signature; signed-receipt-micalg=optional, sha1, md5 Disposition-notification-options syntax: Disposition-notification-options = "Disposition-Notification-Options" ":" disposition-notification-parameters where disposition-notification-parameters = parameter *(";" parameter) where parameter = attribute "=" importance ", " 1#value" where importance = "required" | "optional" So the Disposition-notification-options string could be: signed-receipt-protocol=optional, ; signed-receipt-micalg=optional, , ,...; The currently supported value for is "pkcs7-signature" for the S/MIME detached signature format. Harding, Scott [Page 16] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 The currently supported values for MIC algorithm values are: Algorithm Value Used -------- ------- MD5 md5 SHA-1 sha1 Receiving agents SHOULD be able to recover gracefully from a parameter value that they do not recognize. The semantics of the "signed-receipt-protocol" parameter is as follows: 1) The "signed-receipt-protocol" parameter is used to request a signed receipt from the recipient trading partner. The "signed-receipt-protocol" parameter also specifies the format in which the signed receipt should be returned to the requester. The "signed-receipt-micalg" parameter is a list of MIC algorithms preferred by the requester for use in signing the returned receipt and calculating the micalg in the Received-content-MIC header. The list of MIC algorithms should be honored by the recipient from left to right. Both the "signed-receipt-protocol" and the "signed-receipt-micalg" option parameters are REQUIRED when requesting a signed receipt. 2) The "importance" attribute of "Optional" is defined in the RFC 2298 section 2.2 and has the following meaning: Parameters with an importance of "Optional" permit a UA that does not understand the particular options parameter to still generate a MDN in response to a request for a MDN. A UA that does not understand the "signed-receipt-protocol" parameter, or the "signed-receipt-micalg" will obviously not return a signed receipt. The importance of "Optional" is used for the signed receipt parameters because it is RECOMMENDED that an MDN be returned to the requesting trading partner even if the recipient could not sign it. The returned MDN will contain information on the disposition of the message as well as why the MDN could not be signed. See the Disposition field in section 7.5 for more information. Within an EDI trading relationship, if a signed receipt is expected and is not returned, then the validity of the transaction must be determined by the trading partners. Typically, if a signed receipt is required by the trading relationship and is not received, the transaction will likely not be considered valid. 7.3.1 Signed Receipt Considerations The method used to request a receipt or a signed receipt is defined in RFC 2298, "An Extensible Message Format for Message Disposition Notifications". Harding, Scott [Page 17] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 The "rules" for processing a receipt-request follow: 1) When a receipt is requested, explicitly specifying that the receipt be signed, then the receipt MUST be returned with a signature unless conditions (2) or (3) below are applicable. 2) When a receipt is requested, explicitly specifying that the receipt be signed, but the recipient cannot support either the requested protocol format, or requested MIC algorithms, then either a signed or unsigned receipt SHOULD be returned. 3) When a receipt is requested, explicitly specifying that the receipt be signed, but the recipient is unable to compute the digest (e.g., message was encrypted and recipient unable to decrypt), then the recipient SHOULD NOT return "Received-Content-MIC" in the MDN to the requestor. If the MDN sets the disposition (e.g., "processed/error: decryption-failed") appropriately, then the "Received-Content-MIC" may be returned but the value must be discarded. 4) When a signature is not explicitly requested, or if the signed receipt request parameter is not recognized by the UA, then no receipt, an unsigned receipt, or a signed receipt MAY be returned by the recipient. 5) If a message is received without a request for a receipt, then a receipt (signed or unsigned) MAY be returned. The "Received-content-MIC" MUST be calculated as follows: - For any signed messages, the MIC to be returned is calculated on the RFC1767 MIME header and content. Canonicalization as specified in RFC 1848 MUST be performed before the MIC is calculated, since the sender requesting the signed receipt was also REQUIRED to canonicalize. - For encrypted, unsigned messages, the MIC to be returned is calculated on the decrypted RFC 1767 MIME header and content. The content after decryption MUST be canonicalized before the MIC is calculated. - For unsigned, unencrypted messages, the MIC MUST be calculated over the message contents prior to Content-Tranfer-Encoding and without the MIME or any other RFC 822 headers, since these are sometimes altered or reordered by MTAs. 7.4 MDN Format and value This section defines the format of the AS3 Message Disposition Notification (AS3-MDN). 7.4.1 AS3-MDN General Formats The AS3-MDN follows the MDN specification [6] except where noted in this section. The modified entity definitions in this document use the vertical-bar character, '|', to denote a logical "OR" construction. Refer to RFC 2045 for format of MIME-message-headers. Harding, Scott [Page 18] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 The format of the AS3-MDN is AS3-MDN = *(( MIME-message-headers | entity-headers )CRLF) CRLF AS3-MDN-body AS3-MDN-body = AS3-signed-MDN-body | AS3-unsigned-MDN-body 7.4.2 AS3-MDN Construction The AS3-MDN-body is formatted as a MIME multipart/report with a report-type of "disposition-notification". When unsigned, the transfer-layer ( "outermost" ) entity-headers of the AS3-MDN contain the content-type header that specifies a content-type of "multipart/report" and parameters indicating the report-type, and the value of the outermost multipart boundary. When the AS3-MDN is signed, the transfer-layer ( "outermost" ) entity-headers of the AS3-MDN contain a content-type header that specifies a content-type of "multipart/signed" and parameters indicating the algorithm used to compute the message digest, the signature formatting protocol ( e.g. pkcs7-signature ), and the value of the outermost multipart boundary. The first part of the MIME multipart/signed message is an embedded MIME multipart/report of type "disposition-notification". The second part of the multipart/signed message contains a MIME application/pkcs7-signature message. The first part of the MIME multipart/report is a "human-readable" portion that contains a general description of the message disposition. The second part of the MIME multipart/report is a "machine-readable" portion that is defined as AS3-disposition-notification-content = [ reporting-ua-field CRLF ] [ mdn-gateway-field CRLF ] [ original-recipient-field CRLF ] final-recipient-field CRLF [ original-message-id-field CRLF ] AS3-disposition-field CRLF *( failure-field CRLF ) *( error-field CRLF ) *( warning-field CRLF ) *( extension-field CRLF ) [ AS3-received-content-MIC-field CRLF ] It is noted that several of the optional fields defined by RFC 2298 and shown above are not relevant to a point-to-point transport such as FTP and would not normally appear in an AS3 MDN. 7.4.3 AS3-MDN Fields The rules for constructing the AS3-disposition-notification-content Harding, Scott [Page 19] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 are identical to the rules for constructing the disposition-notification-content as defined in section 7 of RFC 2298 [6] except that the RFC 2298 disposition-field has been replaced with the AS3-disposition-field and that the AS3-received-content-MIC field has been added. The differences between the RFC 2298 disposition-field and the AS3-disposition-field are described below. Where there are differences between this document and RFC 2298, those entity names have been changed by prepending "AS3-". Entities below that do not differ from RFC 2298 are not necessarily further defined in this document. Refer to RFC 2298 for AS3-MDN entities that are not further defined in this document. AS3-disposition-field = "Disposition" ":" disposition-mode ";" AS3-disposition-type [ '/' AS3-disposition-modifier ] disposition-mode = action-mode "/" sending-mode action-mode = "manual-action" | "automatic-action" sending-mode = "MDN-sent-manually" | "MDN-sent-automatically" AS3-disposition-type = "processed" | "failed" AS3-disposition-modifier = ( "error" | "warning" ) | AS3-disposition-modifier-extension AS3-disposition-modifier-extension = "error: authentication-failed" | "error: decompression-failed" | "error: decryption-failed" | "error: insufficient-message-security" | "error: integrity-check-failed" | "error: unexpected-processing-error" | "warning: " AS3-MDN-warning-description | "failure: " AS3-MDN-failure-description AS3-MDN-warning-description = *( TEXT ) AS3-MDN-failure-description = *( TEXT ) AS3-received-content-MIC-field = "Received-content-MIC" ":" encoded-message-digest "," digest-alg-id CRLF encoded-message-digest = 1*( 'A'-Z' | 'a'-'z' | '0'-'9' | '/' | '+' ) 0*3( '=' ) ( i.e. base64( message-digest ) ) digest-alg-id = "sha1" | "md5" The "Received-content-MIC" extension field is set after the integrity of the received message is verified. The MIC is the base64-encoded message-digest computed over the received message Harding, Scott [Page 20] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 with a hash function. This field is required for signed receipts but optional for unsigned receipts. For details defining the specific content over which the message-digest is to be computed, see Section 7.3.1 of this document. The algorithm used to calculate the message digest MUST be the same as the "micalg" value used by the sender in the multipart/signed message. When no signature is received the message-digest MUST be calculated using the algorithm specified by the "micalg" value in the Disposition-Notification-Options header. When no signature is received and no micalg parameter is provided, then the SHA-1 algorithm MUST be used to calculate the digest. This field is set only when the contents of the message are processed successfully. This field is used in conjunction with the recipient's signature on the MDN in order for the sender to verify non-repudiation of receipt. AS3-MDN field names ( e.g. "Disposition:", "Final-Recipient:") are case-insensitive ( cf. RFC 2298, 3.1.1 ). AS3-MDN action-modes, sending-modes, AS3-disposition-types, and AS3-disposition-modifier values that are defined above, and user-supplied *( TEXT ) values are also case-insensitive. AS3 implementations MUST NOT make assumptions regarding the values supplied for AS3-MDN-warning-description, AS3-MDN-failure-description nor for the values of any (optional) error, warning, or failure fields. 7.4.4 Additional AS3-MDN Programming Notes 1. Unlike SMTP, for FTP transactions, Original-Recipient and Final Recipient SHOULD NOT be different. The value in Original-Message-ID MUST match the original Message-ID header value. 2. Refer to RFC 1892 and RFC 2298 for the formatting of the content-type entity-headers for the MDN. 3. Use an action-mode of "automatic-action" when the disposition described by the disposition type was a result of an automatic action, rather than an explicit instruction by the user for this message. 4. Use an action-mode of "manual-action" when the disposition described by the disposition type was a result of an explicit instruction by the user rather than some sort of automatically performed action. 5. Use a sending-mode of "MDN-sent-automatically" when the MDN is sent because the UA had previously been configured to do so. 6. Use a sending-mode of "MDN-sent-manually" when the user explicitly gave permission for this particular MDN to be sent. 7. The sending-mode "MDN-sent-manually" is ONLY meaningful with "manual-action", not with "automatic-action". Harding, Scott [Page 21] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 8. The "failed" disposition type MAY NOT be used for the situation in which there is some problem in processing the message other than interpreting the request for an MDN. The "processed" or other disposition type with appropriate disposition modifiers is to be used in such situations. 7.5 Disposition Mode, Type, and Modifier 7.5.1 Disposition Mode Overview This section will provide a brief overview of how processed, error, failure, and warnings are used. 7.5.2 Successful Processing status indication When the request for a receipt or signed receipt, and the received message contents are successfully processed by the receiving EDI UA, a receipt or MDN SHOULD be returned with the "disposition-type" set to 'processed'. When the MDN is sent automatically by the EDI UA, and there is no explicit way for a user to control the sending of the MDN, then the first part of the "disposition-mode" should be set to "automatic-action". When the MDN is being sent under user configurable control, then the first part of the "disposition-mode" should be set to "manual-action". Since a request for a signed receipt should always be honored, the user MUST not be allowed to configure the UA to not send a signed receipt when the sender requests one. The second part of the "disposition-mode" is set to "MDN-sent-manually" if the user gave explicit permission for the MDN to be sent. Again, the user MUST not be allowed to explicitly refuse to send a signed receipt when the sender requests one. The second part of the "disposition-mode" is set to "MDN-sent-automatically" whenever the EDI UA sends the MDN automatically, regardless of whether the sending was under a user's, administrator's, or under software control. Since EDI content is generally handled automatically by the EDI UA, a request for a receipt or signed receipt will generally return the following in the "disposition-field": Disposition: automatic-action/MDN-sent-automatically; processed Note this specification does not restrict the use of the "disposition-mode" to just automatic actions. Manual actions are valid as long as it is kept in mind that a request for a signed receipt MUST be honored. 7.5.3 Unsuccessful processed Content The request for a signed receipt requires the use of two "disposition-notification-options", which specify the protocol format of the returned signed receipt, and the MIC algorithm used to calculate the MIC over the message contents. The Harding, Scott [Page 22] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 "disposition-field" values that should be used in the case where the message content is being rejected or ignored, for instance if the EDI UA determines that a signed receipt cannot be returned because it does not support the requested protocol format, so the EDI UA chooses not to process the message contents itself, should be specified in the MDN "disposition-field" as follows: Disposition: "disposition-mode"; failed/Failure: unsupported Format The "failed" AS3-disposition-type should be used when a failure occurs that prevents the proper generation of an MDN. For example, this disposition-type would apply if the sender of the message requested the application of an unsupported message-integrity-check (MIC) algorithm. The "failure:" AS3-disposition-modifier-extension should be used with an implementation-defined description of the failure. Further information about the failure may be contained in a failure-field. The syntax of the "failed" "disposition-type" is general, allowing the sending of any textual information along with the "failed" "disposition-type". Implementations WILL support any printable textual characters after the Failure disposition-type. For use in Internet EDI, the following "failed" values are pre-defined and MUST be supported: "Failure: unsupported format" "Failure: unsupported MIC-algorithms" 7.5.4 Unsuccessful Non-Content Processing When errors occur processing the received message other than content, the "disposition-field" should be set to the "processed" "disposition-type" value and the "error" "disposition-modifier" \ value. The "error" AS3-disposition-modifier with the "processed" disposition-type should be used to indicate that an error of some sort occurred that prevented successful processing of the message. Further information may be contained in an error-field. An "error:" AS3-disposition-modifier-extension should be used to combine the indication of an error with a pre-defined description of a specific, well-known error. Further information about the error may be contained in an error-field. For use in Internet EDI, the following "error" "disposition-modifier" values are defined: "Error: decryption-failed" - the receiver could not decrypt the message contents. "Error: authentication-failed" - the receiver could not Harding, Scott [Page 23] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 authenticate the sender. "Error: integrity-check-failed" - the receiver could not verify content integrity. "Error: insufficient-message-security" - the security level of the message did not match the agreed level between TPs. "Error: decompression-failed" - the receiver could not decompress the message contents. "Error: unexpected-processing-error" - a catch-all for any additional processing errors. An example of how the "disposition-field" would look when other than content processing errors are detected is as follows: EXAMPLE Disposition: "disposition-mode"; processed/Error: decryption-failed 7.5.5 Processing Warnings Situations arise in EDI where even if a trading partner cannot be authenticated correctly, the trading partners still agree to continue processing the EDI transactions. Transaction reconciliation is done between the trading partners at a later time. In the content processing warning situations as described above, the "disposition-field' SHOULD be set to the "processed" "disposition-type" value, and the "warning" "disposition-modifier" value. The "warning" AS3-disposition-modifier should be used with the "processed" disposition-type to indicate that the message was successfully processed but that an exceptional condition occurred. Further information may be contained in a warning-field. A "warning:" AS3-disposition-modifier-extension should be used to combine the indication of a warning with an implementation-defined description of the warning. Further information about the warning may be contained in an warning-field. For use in Internet EDI, the following "warning" "disposition-modifier" values are defined: "Warning: authentication-failed, processing continued" An example of how the "disposition-field" would look when other than content processing warnings are detected is as follows: EXAMPLE Disposition: "disposition-mode"; processed/Warning: authentication-failed, processing continued Harding, Scott [Page 24] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 ***************************************************** Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 14:25:41 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET1aH-0003iS-OB for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:25:41 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA23894 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIK6xh053762; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:20:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LIK6SK053761; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:20:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIK5FN053750 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: AS3 Discusion - Section 9 - Security Considerations Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:19:59 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Section 9 - Security Considerations Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYAABMavAAAByXeAAAQr+UA== From: "Terry Harding" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LIK5FN053756 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Open for discussion 9. Security Considerations This entire document is concerned with secure transport of business to business data, and considers both privacy and authentication issues. Extracted from S/MIME Version 2 Message Specification: 40-bit encryption is considered weak by most cryptographers. Using weak cryptography offers little actual security over sending plaintext. However, other features of S/MIME, such as the specification of tripleDES or AES and the ability to announce stronger cryptographic capabilities to parties with whom you communicate, allow senders to create messages that use strong encryption. Using weak cryptography is never recommended unless the only alternative is no cryptography. When feasible, sending and receiving agents should inform senders and recipients the relative cryptographic strength of messages. Extracted from S/MIME Version 3 Certificate Handling (ref [11]): When processing certificates, there are many situations where the processing might fail. Because the processing may be done by a user agent, a security gateway, or other program, there is no single way to handle such failures. Just because the methods to handle the failures have not been listed, however, the reader should not assume that they are not important. The opposite is true: if a certificate Harding, Scott [Page 25] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 is not provably valid and associated with the message, the processing software should take immediate and noticeable steps to inform the end user about it. Some of the many places where signature and certificate checking might fail include: - no certificate chain leads to a trusted CA - no ability to check the CRL for a certificate - an invalid CRL was received - the CRL being checked is expired - the certificate is expired - the certificate has been revoked There are certainly other instances where a certificate may be invalid, and it is the responsibility of the processing software to check them all thoroughly, and to decide what to do if the check fails. The following certificate types MUST be supported. With URL Without URL Self Certified Certification Authority Certified The complete certification chain MUST be included in all certificates. All certificate verifications MUST "chain to root". Additionally, the certificate hash should match the hash recomputed by the receiver. ***************************************************** Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 14:26:48 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET1bM-00046U-GH for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:26:48 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA23923 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIIoro053545; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LIIoZl053544; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:18:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIIoRk053513 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: AS3 Discusion - Section 8 - Public key certificate handling Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:18:44 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Section 8 - Public key certificate handling Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYAABMavAAAByXeAAAQAvwA== From: "Terry Harding" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LIIoRk053539 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Open for discussion 8. Public key certificate handling In the near term, the exchange of public keys and certification of these keys must be handled as part of the process of establishing a trading partnership. The UA and/or EDI application interface must maintain a database of public keys used for encryption or signatures, in addition to the mapping between EDI trading partner ID and FTP URL/URI. The procedures for establishing a trading partnership and configuring the secure EDI messaging system might vary among trading partners and software packages. X.509 certificates are REQUIRED. It is RECOMMENDED that trading partners self-certify each other if an agreed upon certification authority is not used. This applicability statement does NOT require the use of a certification authority. The use of a certification authority is therefore OPTIONAL. Certificates may be self-signed. It is RECOMMENDED that when trading partners are using S/MIME, that they also exchange public key certificates using the recommendations specified in the S/MIME Version 3 Message Specification. The message formats and S/MIME conformance requirements for certificate exchange are specified in this document. In the long term, additional Internet-EDI standards may be developed to simplify the process of establishing a trading partnership, including the third party authentication of trading partners, as well as attributes of the trading relationship. ***************************************************** Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 14:27:59 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET1cV-00058h-L5 for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:27:59 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA24004 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIMP9u054189; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LIMPDS054188; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:22:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LIMOBf054169 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: AS3 Discusion - Appendices Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:22:18 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Appendices Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAAZURAAAB4E1AAANnHYAABMavAAAByXeAAAR6eIA== From: "Terry Harding" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LIMOBf054182 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Open for discussion Appendices A. Message Examples NOTE: All examples are provided as an illustration only, and are not considered part of the protocol specification. If an example conflicts with the protocol definitions specified above or with that of a referenced RFC, the example is wrong. A.1 Signed message requesting a signed receipt Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:34:50 GMT AS3-Version: 1.0 AS3-From: cyclone AS3-To: "trading partner" Harding, Scott [Page 27] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 Message-Id: <200207310834482A70BF63@host.com> Disposition-Notification-To: ftp://host:port/mdnbox Disposition-Notification-Options: signed-receipt- protocol=optional,pkcs7-signature; signed-receipt-micalg=optional,sha1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="as3BouNdary1as3"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Content-Length: 3075 --as3BouNdary1as3 Content-Type: application/edi-x12 Content-Disposition: Attachment; filename=rfc1767.dat [ISA ...EDI transaction data...IEA...] --as3BouNdary1as3 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature [omitted binary pkcs7 signature data] --as3BouNdary1as3-- A.2 MDN for Message A.1 Above Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:34:50 GMT From: "trading partner" AS3-To: cyclone AS3-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <709700825.1028122454671.JavaMail@ediXchange> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="----=_Part_57_648441049.1028122454671" Content-Length: 1024 ------=_Part_57_648441049.1028122454671 & Content-Type: multipart/report; & Report-Type=disposition-notification; & boundary="----=_Part_56_1672293592.1028122454656" & &------=_Part_56_1672293592.1028122454656 &Content-Type: text/plain &Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit & &MDN for - & Message ID: <200207310834482A70BF63@host.com> & From: cyclone & To: "trading partner" & Received on: 2002-07-31 at 09:34:14 (EDT) & Status: processed & Comment: This is not a guarantee that the message has been & completely processed or understood by the receiving translator & &------=_Part_56_1672293592.1028122454656 & Content-Type: message/disposition-notification & Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit & Harding, Scott [Page 28] INTERNET DRAFT FTP Transport Data for EDIINT April 2005 & Reporting-UA: AS3 Server & Original-Recipient: rfc822; "trading partner" & Final-Recipient: rfc822; "trading partner" & Original-Message-ID: <200207310834482A70BF63@host.com> & Received-content-MIC: 7v7F++fQaNB1sVLFtMRp+dF+eG4=, sha1 & Disposition: automatic-action/MDN-sent-automatically; processed & &------=_Part_56_1672293592.1028122454656-- ------=_Part_57_648441049.1028122454671 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQ cp24hMJNbxDKHnlB9jTiQzLwSwo+/90Pc87x+Sc6EpFSUYWGAAAAAAAA ------=_Part_57_648441049.1028122454671-- Notes: 1. The lines proceeded with "&" is what the signature is calculated over. 2. For details on how to prepare the multipart/signed with protocol = "application/pkcs7-signature" see the "S/MIME Message Specification, PKCS Security Services for MIME".) 3. Note that the textual first body part of the multipart/report can be used to include a more detailed explanation of the error conditions reported by the disposition headers. The first body part of the multipart/report when used in this way, allows a person to better diagnose a problem in detail. 4. As specified by RFC 1892 [10], returning the original or portions of the original message in the third body part of the multipart/report is not required. This is an optional body part. However, it is RECOMMENDED that this body part be omitted or left blank. ***************************************************** Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 15:42:20 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET2mQ-0008SQ-LD for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:42:20 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA29004 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LJW6th068160; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LJW6lR068159; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:32:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from ironport.qrs.com (rca-relay.inovisinc.net [204.146.209.3]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LJW3cx068143 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard.bigelow@inovis.com) Received: from rca-exchange.itlogon.com (10.17.2.17) by ironport.qrs.com with ESMTP; 21 Oct 2005 12:32:02 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,240,1125903600"; d="scan'208,217"; a="47542854:sNHT32965584" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5D676.1C80B6E9" Subject: RE: Moving AS3 forward. Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:32:02 -0700 Message-ID: <8ADCBDDE6FDA8A4DB5CF82A96C628BA8DC58F0@rca-exchange.itlogon.com> Thread-Topic: Moving AS3 forward. Thread-Index: AcXWWljuL7M/gH8GQBqMu7uZBXgN+QAG5iRg From: "Richard Bigelow" To: "Dale Moberg" , Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D676.1C80B6E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Inovis would like to see it move forward. =20 Richard Bigelow ________________________________ From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Dale Moberg Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:13 AM To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: Moving AS3 forward. =20 Hi =20 It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is there anyone on the list that either=20 =20 1. has concerns about it moving forward=20 =20 or=20 =20 2. would like to see it be moved forward in the standards process? =20 If you are an implementer or just an interested party, please post a message to the list concerning your position on this. We need to get some indication of the groups's consensus on this in the record. =20 We can then lobby Rik D. =20 Thanks ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D676.1C80B6E9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Inovis would like to see it move = forward.

     

    Richard = Bigelow

    From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org] = On Behalf Of Dale Moberg
    Sent: Friday, October 21, = 2005 9:13 AM
    To: = ietf-ediint@imc.org
    Subject: Moving AS3 = forward.

     

    Hi

     

    It seems to me that AS3 draft is pretty stable. Is = there anyone on the list that either

     

    1. has concerns about it moving forward =

     

    or

     

    2. would like to see it be moved forward in the = standards process?

     

    If you are an implementer or just an interested = party, please post a message to the list concerning your position on this. We = need to get some indication of the groups’s consensus on this in the = record.

     

    We can then lobby Rik D.

     

    Thanks

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D676.1C80B6E9-- From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Fri Oct 21 16:50:30 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ET3qQ-0005hm-LY for ediint-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:50:30 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA00017 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LKXPix081655; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:33:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9LKXPtt081654; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:33:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail1.cyclonecommerce.com (mail1.cyclonecommerce.com [216.138.89.185]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9LKXOx6081632 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:33:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tharding@cyclonecommerce.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: AS3 Discusion - Introduction Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:33:19 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: AS3 Discusion - Introduction Thread-Index: AcXWbABZ63OTY4kbQu+HnSUR77IvBQAEpWXg From: "Terry Harding" To: "Paul V Ford-Hutchinson" , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9LKXPx6081648 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Paul, You are correct, sorry for the oversight. Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Paul V Ford-Hutchinson Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 11:17 AM To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: AS3 Discusion - Introduction Hi there, Isn't draft-murray-auth-ftp-ssl-16.txt missing from this list? It appears to be mandated in section 6.1 (I'm assuming that the reference to [MURRAY] is just this). Paul. -- Paul Ford-Hutchinson, CISSP : eCommerce application security e: paulfordh@uk.ibm.com e: paul.ford-hutchinson@g-international.com p: MPT-6, IBM , PO Box 31, Birmingham Rd, Warwick, CV34 5JL t: +44 (0)1926 462005 w: http://www.ford-hutchinson.com/~fh-1-pfh/ftps-ext.html __________________ Open for discussion 1. Introduction Previous work on Internet EDI focused on specifying MIME content types for EDI data [2] and extending this work to support secure EC/EDI transport over SMTP [5]. This document expands on RFC 1767 to specify a comprehensive set of data security features, specifically data privacy, data integrity, authenticity, non-repudiation of origin and non-repudiation of receipt over FTP. This document also recognizes contemporary RFCs and is attempting to "re-invent" as little as possible. While this document focuses on EDI data, any other data type describable in a MIME format are also supported. Internet MIME based EDI can be accomplished by using and complying with the following RFC's and Internet drafts: -RFC 959 File Transfer Protocol -RFC 2228 FTP Security Extensions -RFC 1767 EDI Content Type -RFC 3023 XML Media Types -RFC 1847 Security Multiparts for MIME -RFC 1892 Multipart/Report -RFC 2045 to 2049 MIME RFC's -RFC 2298 Message Disposition Notification -RFC 2630, 2632, 2633: S/MIME v3 Specifications -RFC 3274 Compressed Data Content for Cryptographic Message Syntax -draft-ietf-ediint-compression-02.txt Our intent here is to define clearly and precisely how these are used together, and what is required by user agents to be compliant with this document. The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119. ***************************************************** Terry Harding Cyclone Commerce Inc. 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