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    From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Sat May 5 00:24:56 2001 Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id AAA26963 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 00:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23324 for ietf-ediint-bks; Fri, 4 May 2001 20:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.imc.org ([64.5.243.230]) by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA23229 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 20:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105050352.UAA23229@above.proper.com> From: Paul.Risman@above.proper.com Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 23:51:34 To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: Please read the following it could change your life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ONE TIME MAILING, NO NEED TO REMOVE //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// This message is sent in compliance of the proposed bill SECTION 301. per Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618. This message is not intended for residents in the State of Washington, screening of addresses has been done to the best of our technical ability. Subject: Five Is The Key To My Freedom, It Could Be Yours Too. AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars expense one time THANK'S TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET ! ================================================== BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you say ''Bull'', please read the following. This is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. Their findings proved once and for all that there are ''absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the program and if people can -follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with only $25 out of pocket cost''. DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. This is what one had to say: ''Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I passed on it. I am so gladI finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received total $ 610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in." Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. =================================================== Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and walaa ..... 3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT change anything.'' More testimonials later but first, ===== PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTUREREFERENCE ====== $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following...THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED! INSTRUCTIONS: =====Order all 5 reports shown on the list below ===== For each report, send $5 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. Preferably use a word processor to type legibly these details and print on your printer. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems. === When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in step '' 1 through 6 '' or you will loose out on majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work !!! People have tried to put their friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!! 1.... After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune. 2.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5. 3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4. 4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3. 5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2 6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY! ========================================================== **** Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data. To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY ========================================================== Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's=100 people responded and ordered Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report # 3. Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million). Your total income in this example is: 1..... $50 + 2..... $500 + 3..... $5,000 + 4 .. $50,000 + 5..... $500,000 ........ Grand Total=$555,550.00 NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGUREOUT THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ! ========================================================= REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone or half or even one 4th of those people mailed 100,000e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET ======================================================= Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and dd METHOD # 2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receivethe report. =========== AVAILABLE REPORTS ==================== ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. Preferably use a word processor and your printer to do this. ================================================= PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW : ============================================================ REPORT # 1: 'The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net Order Report #1 from: Paul J. Risman P.O. Box 368 Tweed Ontario K0K 3J0 Canada _____________________________________________________________ REPORT # 2: The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk e-mail on the Net Order Report # 2 from: PDP P.O. BOX 80572 185 10 PIRAEUS GREECE ____________________________________________________ REPORT # 3: Secret to Multilevel marketing on the net Order Report # 3 from: S.S. 32 Cross Street San Francisco, CA 94112 USA ________________________________________________________________ REPORT # 4: How to become a millionaire utilizing MLM& the Net Order Report # 4 from: Ada Ario 50 First Street, Suite I San Francisco, CA 94105 USA ________________________________________________________________ REPORT #5: How to send out 0ne Million emails for free Order Report # 5 From: Art Ano 146 McAllister Street,#103 San Francisco, CA 94102 USA ========================================================== ____________________________________________________________ $$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$ Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: === If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. === After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. === Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a Different report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business !!! ====================================================== FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and address in Report #1 and moved others to #2 ...........# 5 as instructed above. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW ! ============ MORE TESTIMONIALS ================ "My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jodyaboutreceiving ''junk mail''. I made fun of the whole thing,spoutingmy knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I ''knew'' it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I told you so'' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received total $ 147,200.00 ........... all cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her ''hobby''. Mitchell Wolf M.D., Chicago, Illinois ====================================================== ''Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back''. '' I was surprised when I found my medium size post office box crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does not matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so big." Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada ======================================================= ''I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone else.........11 months passed then it luckily came again...... I did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my first try and all the money came within 22 weeks." Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y. ======================================================= ''It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions carefully and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first month I made $20,560.00 and by the end of third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to internet.". Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand ======================================================= ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON 'YOUR' ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM ! ======================================================= If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C. From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Wed May 9 02:06:55 2001 Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id CAA00638 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 02:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA18097 for ietf-ediint-bks; Tue, 8 May 2001 22:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pavilion (a24b31n80client230.hawaii.rr.com [24.31.80.230]) by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18087 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 22:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2693320015395322370@pavilion> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 19 X-EM-Registration: #01B0530810E603002D00 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal From: "Mitchell" To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Subject: Business/Employment Opportunity Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:32:23 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id WAA18093 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Friend: "Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars expense one time" THANKS TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET! =============================================== BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR !! Before you say "Bull" , please read the following. This is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the internet, a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described below , to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. Their findings proved once and for all that there are "absolutely no laws prohibiting the participation in the program and if people can follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with only $25 out of pocket cost". DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. This is what one had to say: "Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received total $ 610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in". Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed thesimple instructions and walaa ..... 3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program,I have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT change anything ." More testimonials later but first, ****** PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE ******* $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following...THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN !!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED! INSTRUCTIONS: **** Order all 5 reports shown on the list below. **** For each report, send $5 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems. **** When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5 = $25.00. **** Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, each of the 5 reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. ****.IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in steps 1 through6 or you will loose out on majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work!!! People have tried to put their friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!! 1.. After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune. 2.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5. 3.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4. 4.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3. 5.... Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2 6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY ! ========================================================= Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data. To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 1 : BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY ============================================ let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a0.2% response (the response could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2% . Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's = 100 people responded and ordered Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report # 3. Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5. THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH = $500,000.00 (half million). Your total income in this example is: 1..... $50 + 2..... $500 + 3..... $5,000 + 4..... $50,000 + 5..... $500,000 ......... Grand Total = $555,550.00 NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone, or half or even one 4th of those people mailed 100,000 e-mails each or more? There are over 250 million people on the internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET =================================================== Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free adson the internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add METHOD # 2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's it . Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report. _____________________ AVAILABLE REPORTS_____________________ ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW : ============================================== REPORT #1, "The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk E-mail on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: G. Donaldson P.O. Box 25884 Honolulu, Hawaii 96825-0884 don't forget to provide a permanent e-mail address in clear writing (better typed) to receive the reports. We had problems in delivery e-mails before!!! ============================================== REPORT #2 "The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: Vijay Paul C-291, Second Floor Defence Colony New Delhi - 110024 INDIA ============================================== REPORT #3 "The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: JD P.O.Box 1114 Des Plaines, IL 60017 USA ============================================== REPORT #4 "How to become a Millionaire utilizing the Power of Multilevel Marketing and the Internet" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: J Santi 833 Walter Ave Des Plaines, IL 60016 USA ============================================== REPORT #5 "How to SEND 1,000,000 e-mails for FREE" ORDER REPORT #5 FROM: Elaine Rix 138 Dundas Street, West, #243 Toronto, Ontario Canada M5G 1C3 ============================================== There are currently more than 250,000,000 people online worldwide! $$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$ Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you , and the cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER : Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a different report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business !!! ____________________________________________________ FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. 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Since routing of EDI interchanges are stil very common and interoperability between users using the Internet and users using VANS are needed, problems concerning this issue is on our table. As mentioned in section 2.4 of the referenced document we are looking for a practical solution whereby information in the UNB segment, such as sender's and recierver's logical addresses and EDI message type from the UNH segment, are pullled out and made "visible" for the VANS. Have this problem been addressed before and do you know of companies that have found a solution ? If yes, how have they done it ? Is this issue a working point in the EDIINT Working group ? I would be grateful of any answer or hints of people to contact. Richard Redlund Elektronisk handel PEBS AB ( jointly owned by Sweden Post and TietoEnator ) phone +46 709 801099 fax +46 8 402 3866 From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Wed May 30 13:11:10 2001 Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA18325 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20854 for ietf-ediint-bks; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20844 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 879179129worldnet ([12.72.24.82]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010530163616.QGNT2291.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@879179129worldnet> for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:36:16 +0000 Message-ID: <002301c0e90c$5014e580$5218480c@att.net> From: "Ricardo Johnson" To: Subject: RV: EDIINT-VAN Interconnectivity problems Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 05:43:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0E8CB.79815CA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0E8CB.79815CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ricardo Johnson=20 To: ietf-ediint@imc.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: EDIINT-VAN Interconnectivity (message routing) problems Mr. Redlund, I have read your e-mail regarding your intent to secure EDI messages = using EDI-INT=B4s recommended S/MIME. I agree with you that = interoperability (routing of messages) to and from traditional EDI VANs = is a mayor problem that has not been addressed by the EDI-INT working = group. In fact traditionnal VANS (i.e. Harbinger, ATT, STerling, etc) = are having to act "gateways" between EDI-INT users and VAN users. They = decrypt, unsign, and retransmit plain EDI (unsecured) messages. =20 Furthermore, the lack of interconnectivity that you are referring to may = represent only one of many other serious limitations caused by the = adoption of S/MIME as a means to secure EDI messages. This limitations = are so severe that they should be addressed by the EDI-INT working group = ASAP. =20 As for your project, I would like to discourage you from implementing = S/MIME and any resulting temporary, unilateral solution, such as the one = you propose: pulling out the sender and receiver addresses from the UNH = segment. These "patches" may solve the immediate problem, but they = violate the standards and will surely create bigger problems in the long = term. The choice of a security standard for EDI messages should be one = and one only regardless of the transmission media, the messaging = protocol, the communications layer, etc. This is clearly not the case = with S/MIME. I strongly believe that the EDI-INT selection and recommendation of = S/MIME as "the security standard to transmit EDI messages over the = internet" is incorrect. While the use of S/MIME to secure e-mail = messages may be rapidly becoming more and more popular, S/MIME has not = yet been approved as an industry wide standard, live alone an EDI = security standard !. =20 S/MIME was conceived, and is well suited to protect enveloped e-mail = messages (i.e. UNHs), but is poorly equipped to address the needs of the = more sophisticated EDI transactions (i.e. UNBs), and to manage the more = complex EDI interchange rules including: syntax, non-repudiation of = origin/receipt, acknowledments, key management, etc. I have come across the very same problem you are facing today while = implementing an Inter-Bank payment system between the Central Bank of = Mexico and its 46 affiliated banks. Fortunately, before we were = confronted with the issue of transmitting the EDI messages over the = Internet, we had already decided to adopt the UN/EDIFACT security rules = instead of S/MIME. This decision allowed us to better understand and to = anticipate the interoperability, and the many other limitations = involving S/MIME and EDI messages.=20 So far that crucial decision has paid off. The Mexican Central Bank is = currently capable of exchanging any secured EDIFACT message with any = trading partner in the world. Interoperability between VANs, e-mail, and = any other messaging protocol (i.e. X.400) is assured because encryption, = digital signatures, acknowledgements, and key management are all = performed at the transaction level, not just on the envelopes. With some = added benefits like: consistent use of only one standard (EDIFACT) for = both message structure, and security; non-repudiation of origin and/or = receipt of transactions (not just envelopes), transaction = confidentiality, message routing, etc. Messages are encrypted all the = way from sender to receiver without any "gateway" intermediaries. Finally, I would like to invite you to address this issue with the = EDI-INT working group as I have done in the past. Hopefully, as more = projects involving Web-VAN interoperability emerge, the EDI-INT working = group will better understand the operational problems and will act = accordingly to correct them. In the mean time, I would be glad to offer my practical experience in = the matter and to discuss the benefits of our proposed solution in = detail. If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to = contact me at: ricardo.johnson @att.net. =20 Regards, Dr. Ricardo S. Johnson ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0E8CB.79815CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
     
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Ricardo Johnson
    Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 5:06 PM
    Subject: EDIINT-VAN Interconnectivity (message routing)=20 problems

    Mr. Redlund,
    I=20 have read your e-mail regarding your intent to secure=20 EDI messages using EDI-INT=B4s recommended S/MIME. I agree = with you that=20 interoperability (routing of messages) to and from traditional EDI VANs = is a=20 mayor problem that has not been addressed by the EDI-INT working group. = In fact=20 traditionnal VANS (i.e. Harbinger, ATT, STerling, etc) are having to act = "gateways" between EDI-INT users and VAN users. They decrypt, unsign, = and=20 retransmit plain EDI (unsecured) messages.
     
    Furthermore, the = lack of=20 interconnectivity that you are referring to may represent only one = of many=20 other serious limitations caused by the adoption of S/MIME as a means to = secure=20 EDI messages. This limitations are so severe that they should be = addressed by=20 the EDI-INT working group ASAP.
     
    As for your project, = I would like=20 to discourage you from implementing S/MIME and any resulting temporary,=20 unilateral solution, such as the one you propose: pulling out the sender = and=20 receiver addresses from the UNH segment. These “patches” may = solve the immediate=20 problem, but they violate the standards and will surely create bigger = problems=20 in the long term. The choice of a security standard for EDI messages = should be=20 one and one only regardless of the transmission media, the messaging = protocol,=20 the communications layer, etc. This is clearly not the case with=20 S/MIME.
    I=20 strongly believe that the EDI-INT selection and recommendation of S/MIME = as “the=20 security standard to transmit EDI messages over the internet” is=20 incorrect. While the use of S/MIME to secure e-mail = messages may=20 be rapidly becoming more and more popular, S/MIME has not yet been = approved as=20 an industry wide standard, live alone an EDI security standard = !.
     
    S/MIME was conceived, and is well = suited to=20 protect enveloped e-mail messages (i.e. UNHs), but is poorly equipped to = address=20 the needs of the more sophisticated EDI transactions (i.e. UNBs), and to = manage=20 the more complex EDI interchange rules including: syntax, = non-repudiation of=20 origin/receipt, acknowledments, key management, etc.
    I have come across the = very same=20 problem you are facing today while implementing an Inter-Bank payment = system=20 between the Central Bank of Mexico and its 46 affiliated banks. = Fortunately,=20 before we were confronted with the issue of transmitting the EDI = messages over=20 the Internet, we had already decided to adopt the UN/EDIFACT security = rules=20 instead of S/MIME. This decision allowed us to better understand and to=20 anticipate the interoperability, and the many other limitations = involving S/MIME=20 and EDI messages.
    So far that = crucial=20 decision has paid off. The Mexican Central Bank is currently capable of=20 exchanging any secured EDIFACT message with any trading partner in the = world.=20 Interoperability between VANs, e-mail, and any other messaging protocol = (i.e.=20 X.400) is assured because encryption, digital signatures, = acknowledgements, and=20 key management are all performed at the transaction level, not just on = the=20 envelopes. With some added benefits like: consistent use of only one = standard=20 (EDIFACT) for both message structure, and security; non-repudiation of = origin=20 and/or receipt of transactions (not just envelopes), transaction=20 confidentiality, message routing, etc. Messages are encrypted all the = way from=20 sender to receiver without any "gateway" intermediaries.
    Finally, I = would like to=20 invite you to address this issue with the EDI-INT working group as I = have done=20 in the past. Hopefully, as more projects involving Web-VAN = interoperability=20 emerge, the EDI-INT working group will better understand the operational = problems and will act accordingly to correct them.
    In the mean = time, I would=20 be glad to offer my practical experience in the matter and to discuss = the=20 benefits of our proposed solution in detail. If I can be of any further=20 assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me at: ricardo.johnson=20 @att.net.
     
    Regards,
    Dr. Ricardo = S.=20 Johnson
    ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0E8CB.79815CA0-- From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Wed May 30 14:00:45 2001 Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA19943 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25276 for ietf-ediint-bks; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25271 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sv.chage.com ([24.20.168.137]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010530174028.QOKU19583.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@sv.chage.com> for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:40:28 -0700 From: "Carl Hage" To: ietf-ediint@imc.org Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:39:43 -0700 Subject: (Fwd) Mail Delivery Failure. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <20010530174028.QOKU19583.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@sv.chage.com> Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: From: Richard Redlund Date sent: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:13:13 +0200 > Since routing of EDI interchanges are stil very common and > interoperability between users using the Internet and users using VANS > are needed, problems concerning this issue is on our table. > > As mentioned in section 2.4 of the referenced document we are looking > for a practical solution whereby information in the UNB segment, such as > sender's and recierver's logical addresses and EDI message type from the > UNH segment, are pullled out and made "visible" for the VANS. You need to distinguish between the encrypted and signed S/MIME data transmitted over the internet with the VAN users transmitting unencrypted/unsigned data. To implement an EDIINT to VAN gateway, the VAN must decrypt the S/MIME data as a proxy for thier client. The decryption key would be held by the VAN. Likewise, the VAN would need to sign the data as proxy for a client's message when forwarding replies. The VAN gateway would generate the MDNs as a proxy as well. If the trading partner supported S/MIME encryption/decryption, then the VAN gateway isn't needed, except perhaps as an internet provider. If the VAN performed value-added services (data translation, etc), then the VAN would hold the encryption keys and perform services on behalf of thier customers. You could concieve of a VAN acting as a middleman receiving S/MIME messages, performing data services, then forwarding processed messages to a client using S/MIME. The communications between an external trading parter and the VAN would use a different encryption key, than the VAN to client communications. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Hage C. Hage Associates Voice/Fax: 1-408-244-8410 1180 Reed Ave #51 Sunnyvale, CA 94086 From owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Thu May 31 00:59:54 2001 Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id AAA02954 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 00:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01781 for ietf-ediint-bks; Wed, 30 May 2001 21:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.52]) by above.proper.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01777 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 21:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 879179129worldnet ([12.72.29.120]) by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010531042350.TTAB8055.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@879179129worldnet>; Thu, 31 May 2001 04:23:50 +0000 Message-ID: <003a01c0e96f$2893f240$781d480c@att.net> From: "Ricardo Johnson" To: "Carl Hage" , References: <20010530174028.QOKU19583.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@sv.chage.com> Subject: RE: (Fwd) Mail Delivery Failure. Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:05:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-ietf-ediint@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by above.proper.com id VAA01781 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id AAA02954 From Mr. Hageīs description it is obvious that there is a major error in unsing S/MIME as secutity to transmit EDI messages. The idea to use a VAN as a gateway to decrypt and retransmit unencryted EDI messages is wrong ! This can not, and should never be done particurarky with financial EDI messages such as PAYMULs or 820s. I can understand why the VANs like the idea of S/MIME so much, it makes their clients still dependant on their services. I believe the use of EDIFACT security rules and ANSINīs X 12.58 and X 9.9 should be used to secure EDI messages regdardless of weather you are using VANs, e-mail, or any other messaging mechanism. SImple, one standard, one security rap ! Wahy has this not been proposed before, it would solve a lot of problems ! Ricardo Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Hage To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: (Fwd) Mail Delivery Failure. > From: Richard Redlund > Date sent: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:13:13 +0200 > > > Since routing of EDI interchanges are stil very common and > > interoperability between users using the Internet and users using VANS > > are needed, problems concerning this issue is on our table. > > > > As mentioned in section 2.4 of the referenced document we are looking > > for a practical solution whereby information in the UNB segment, such as > > sender's and recierver's logical addresses and EDI message type from the > > UNH segment, are pullled out and made "visible" for the VANS. > > You need to distinguish between the encrypted and signed S/MIME > data transmitted over the internet with the VAN users transmitting > unencrypted/unsigned data. > > To implement an EDIINT to VAN gateway, the VAN must decrypt the > S/MIME data as a proxy for thier client. The decryption key would be > held by the VAN. Likewise, the VAN would need to sign the data as > proxy for a client's message when forwarding replies. The VAN > gateway would generate the MDNs as a proxy as well. > > If the trading partner supported S/MIME encryption/decryption, then the > VAN gateway isn't needed, except perhaps as an internet provider. If > the VAN performed value-added services (data translation, etc), then > the VAN would hold the encryption keys and perform services on > behalf of thier customers. > > You could concieve of a VAN acting as a middleman receiving S/MIME > messages, performing data services, then forwarding processed > messages to a client using S/MIME. The communications between > an external trading parter and the VAN would use a different encryption > key, than the VAN to client communications. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Carl Hage C. Hage Associates > Voice/Fax: 1-408-244-8410 1180 Reed Ave #51 > Sunnyvale, CA 94086 >