Received: from gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.60.93]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l6UNESC01451 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:14:28 -0700 Received: from [10.212.2.72] (bldmz-nat-161-182.berkeley.intel-research.net [12.155.161.182]) (authenticated bits=0) by gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.14.1/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l6V0ERCS008217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:14:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52950c3f0707301157h430d89f5h83500a122cb30cf5@mail.gmail.com> References: <52950c3f0707301019i2800b93ft2af045e9c2c56a94@mail.gmail.com> <4BBA0AB4-8EC5-4255-B420-7352E4700C6D@cs.berkeley.edu> <52950c3f0707301157h430d89f5h83500a122cb30cf5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--772250098 Message-Id: <1D085F75-B987-4E5F-AF9B-ECD35D957B38@cs.berkeley.edu> From: Michael Demmer Subject: Re: [dtn-users] tcp neighbor discovery X-Applemailsentby: demmer Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:14:23 -0700 To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: --Apple-Mail-5--772250098 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Oh... you want the "dtlsr" router, not the "linkstate" router. That latter one is very old (and should probably just be dropped from the repository). -mike On Jul 30, 2007, at 11:57 AM, Timur Alperovich wrote: > I thought you might want to know about this error I got when trying > to use linkstate routing: > [1185821661.164393 /dtn/bundle/daemon notice] loading bundles from > data store > PANIC at bundling/BundleActions.cc:233: XXX/demmer fix this > STACK TRACE: 0x816c097 0x81104ba 0x80ef575 0x80ef687 0x80f0346 > 0x808dc15 0x80f1226 0x8079efb 0x80798a2 0x8195c1a 0x8195db1 0xb7d9e183 > > I suppose it is indeed rough :) > > Timur > > On 7/30/07, Michael Demmer wrote: > > Yes, DTLSR will detect the topology of the whole network and can > take into account the fact that intermediate nodes may be down. You > can read more about that implementation in a research paper here: > http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~demmer/papers/dtlsr-nsdr.pdf > > Unfortunately there isn't any documentation at present about using > the DTLSR (link state) routing within the DTN implementation and > the code is a little rough still. I'm planning on using it more > operationally in the weeks/months to come and will try to write up > some documentation on how to use it then. > > -m > --Apple-Mail-5--772250098 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Oh... you want the "dtlsr" = router, not the "linkstate" router. That latter one is very old (and = should probably just be dropped from the repository).

-mike

On Jul 30, 2007, at = 11:57 AM, Timur Alperovich wrote:

I thought = you might want to know about this error I got when trying to use = linkstate routing:
[1185821661.164393 /dtn/bundle/daemon notice] = loading bundles from data store
PANIC at = bundling/BundleActions.cc:233: XXX/demmer fix this
STACK TRACE: = 0x816c097 0x81104ba 0x80ef575 0x80ef687 0x80f0346 0x808dc15 0x80f1226 = 0x8079efb 0x80798a2 0x8195c1a 0x8195db1 0xb7d9e183

I suppose it = is indeed rough :)

Timur

= On 7/30/07, Michael Demmer <demmer@cs.berkeley.edu> = wrote:

Yes, DTLSR will detect the = topology of the whole network and can take into account the fact that = intermediate nodes may be down. You can read more about that = implementation in a research paper here: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~demmer/= papers/dtlsr-nsdr.pdf

Unfortunately there isn't = any documentation at present about using the DTLSR (link state) routing = within the DTN implementation and the code is a little rough still. I'm = planning on using it more operationally in the weeks/months to come and = will try to write up some documentation on how to use it then. =

-m


= --Apple-Mail-5--772250098-- Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l6UIv6J23396 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:57:06 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f1so384159rvb for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=o6SIRff924z3gcH8q9bTW1YIYZnZRhimLuOScG/BtmkEtrRTh0R8vjtWn8ByHILUWR5tem3WrLgc4/xgvMYjIIbVn4ZdKXrr4uAu1aDU8ycDqY5o/zMFi/lSEUOw/aA27saEl0K347kum02g0X7lZ9ANpj1ofDNS1ksO1b6BRM4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rYSboa36Tbdjt6AzY5euGlS1ZbBzf/Hivorfk045tsa1yzjc7azPX3MIlZGbZmqoWtBzAtvDILEJjkv2HN6vF86v+N5VWhUJzJ7VaSfPXM61V151p9Cr9QIjyrow/NJi1/rytlbjuPDq/JJbkS5HtPFUOQK1JEvQigPoJOrz1CU= Received: by 10.141.53.15 with SMTP id f15mr1923965rvk.1185821822537; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.51.12 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52950c3f0707301157h430d89f5h83500a122cb30cf5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:57:02 -0400 From: "Timur Alperovich" To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org Subject: Re: [dtn-users] tcp neighbor discovery In-Reply-To: <4BBA0AB4-8EC5-4255-B420-7352E4700C6D@cs.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10122_33441316.1185821822511" References: <52950c3f0707301019i2800b93ft2af045e9c2c56a94@mail.gmail.com> <4BBA0AB4-8EC5-4255-B420-7352E4700C6D@cs.berkeley.edu> Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: ------=_Part_10122_33441316.1185821822511 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I thought you might want to know about this error I got when trying to use linkstate routing: [1185821661.164393 /dtn/bundle/daemon notice] loading bundles from data store PANIC at bundling/BundleActions.cc:233: XXX/demmer fix this STACK TRACE: 0x816c097 0x81104ba 0x80ef575 0x80ef687 0x80f0346 0x808dc15 0x80f1226 0x8079efb 0x80798a2 0x8195c1a 0x8195db1 0xb7d9e183 I suppose it is indeed rough :) Timur On 7/30/07, Michael Demmer wrote: > > > Yes, DTLSR will detect the topology of the whole network and can take into > account the fact that intermediate nodes may be down. You can read more > about that implementation in a research paper here: > http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~demmer/papers/dtlsr-nsdr.pdf > > Unfortunately there isn't any documentation at present about using the > DTLSR (link state) routing within the DTN implementation and the code is a > little rough still. I'm planning on using it more operationally in the > weeks/months to come and will try to write up some documentation on how to > use it then. > -m > ------=_Part_10122_33441316.1185821822511 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I thought you might want to know about this error I got when trying to use linkstate routing:
[1185821661.164393 /dtn/bundle/daemon notice] loading bundles from data store
PANIC at bundling/BundleActions.cc:233: XXX/demmer fix this
STACK TRACE: 0x816c097 0x81104ba 0x80ef575 0x80ef687 0x80f0346 0x808dc15 0x80f1226 0x8079efb 0x80798a2 0x8195c1a 0x8195db1 0xb7d9e183

I suppose it is indeed rough :)

Timur

On 7/30/07, Michael Demmer <demmer@cs.berkeley.edu> wrote:

Yes, DTLSR will detect the topology of the whole network and can take into account the fact that intermediate nodes may be down. You can read more about that implementation in a research paper here: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~demmer/papers/dtlsr-nsdr.pdf

Unfortunately there isn't any documentation at present about using the DTLSR (link state) routing within the DTN implementation and the code is a little rough still. I'm planning on using it more operationally in the weeks/months to come and will try to write up some documentation on how to use it then.

-m

------=_Part_10122_33441316.1185821822511-- Received: from gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.60.93]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l6UHWMJ22817 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:32:22 -0700 Received: from [10.212.2.72] (bldmz-nat-161-182.berkeley.intel-research.net [12.155.161.182]) (authenticated bits=0) by gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.14.1/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l6UHWLXt025426 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:32:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52950c3f0707301019i2800b93ft2af045e9c2c56a94@mail.gmail.com> References: <52950c3f0707301019i2800b93ft2af045e9c2c56a94@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--796375459 Message-Id: <4BBA0AB4-8EC5-4255-B420-7352E4700C6D@cs.berkeley.edu> From: Michael Demmer Subject: Re: [dtn-users] tcp neighbor discovery X-Applemailsentby: demmer Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:32:18 -0700 To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: --Apple-Mail-1--796375459 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Yes, DTLSR will detect the topology of the whole network and can take into account the fact that intermediate nodes may be down. You can read more about that implementation in a research paper here: http:// www.cs.berkeley.edu/~demmer/papers/dtlsr-nsdr.pdf Unfortunately there isn't any documentation at present about using the DTLSR (link state) routing within the DTN implementation and the code is a little rough still. I'm planning on using it more operationally in the weeks/months to come and will try to write up some documentation on how to use it then. -m On Jul 30, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Timur Alperovich wrote: > Hi, > > Thank you for the prompt response! That was exactly what I needed > to do. I have one more question, though. I've been trying to > understand the various routing types and what they would provide. > In the network I'd like to setup there will be a number of nodes, > that are 2-3 or more hops away from the recipient node. Thus they > will have to use other nodes to route the packets. The intermediate > nodes may go down at any point. Would the linkstate route type > detect this and route through other neighbors? Also, is there > anything I have to setup to have the nodes aware of their multihop > neighbors and maintain the paths? It seems that linkstate type is > what I'm looking for, but I could not find anything describing what > it does or how it works. Is there a manual better than the manual > on the dtnrg site ( http://www.dtnrg.org/docs/code/DTN2/doc/ > manual/) I could look at? > > Thank you, > Timur > > Yes -- you can use the console to add links just like in the static > config. > > If you add to the daemon configuration: > > console set addr 127.0.0.1 > console set port 5050 > > Then when the daemon is running, you can telnet to localhost port > 5050 and run the "link add" command. > > Obviously you can pick any port you want. > > -mike > > On Jul 27, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Timur Alperovich wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm new to DTN and was hoping to use it on a network we're setting > > up. I wanted to have the nodes added/disconnected at random, and > > thus would not know their addresses. Is there a way to add links > > after the daemon started? I've searched the documentation online > > but as far as I could see the links are configured in the config > > script. > > > > Thank you, > > Timur > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > dtn-users mailing list > dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org > http://mailman.dtnrg.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn-users > > > End of dtn-users Digest > --Apple-Mail-1--796375459 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII

Yes, DTLSR will detect the = topology of the whole network and can take into account the fact that = intermediate nodes may be down. You can read more about that = implementation in a research paper here: http://w= ww.cs.berkeley.edu/~demmer/papers/dtlsr-nsdr.pdf

Unfortunately there isn't any = documentation at present about using the DTLSR (link state) routing = within the DTN implementation and the code is a little rough still. I'm = planning on using it more operationally in the weeks/months to come and = will try to write up some documentation on how to use it then.

-m

On Jul = 30, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Timur Alperovich wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for the prompt response! That was = exactly what I needed to do. I have one more question, though. I've been = trying to understand the various routing types and what they would = provide. In the network I'd like to setup there will be a number of = nodes, that are 2-3 or more hops away from the recipient node. Thus they = will have to use other nodes to route the packets. The intermediate = nodes may go down at any point. Would the linkstate route type detect = this and route through other neighbors? Also, is there anything I have = to setup to have the nodes aware of their multihop neighbors and = maintain the paths? It seems that linkstate type is what I'm looking = for, but I could not find anything describing what it does or how it = works. Is there a manual better than the manual on the dtnrg site ( http://www.dtnrg.= org/docs/code/DTN2/doc/manual/) I could look at?

Thank = you,
Timur

Yes -- you can use the console to add links = just like in the static
config.

If you add to the daemon = configuration:

console set addr 127.0.0.1
console set port 5050

= Then when the daemon is running, you can telnet to localhost = port
5050 and run the "link add" command.

Obviously you can = pick any port you want.

-mike

On Jul 27, 2007, at 1:42 PM, = Timur Alperovich wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm new to DTN = and was hoping to use it on a network we're setting
> up. I wanted = to have the nodes added/disconnected at random, and
> thus would = not know their addresses. Is there a way to add links
> after the = daemon started? I've searched the documentation online
> but as = far as I could see the links are configured in the config
> = script.
>
> Thank you,
> Timur



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Thank you for the prompt response! That was exactly what I needed to do. I have one more question, though. I've been trying to understand the various routing types and what they would provide. In the network I'd like to setup there will be a number of nodes, that are 2-3 or more hops away from the recipient node. Thus they will have to use other nodes to route the packets. The intermediate nodes may go down at any point. Would the linkstate route type detect this and route through other neighbors? Also, is there anything I have to setup to have the nodes aware of their multihop neighbors and maintain the paths? It seems that linkstate type is what I'm looking for, but I could not find anything describing what it does or how it works. Is there a manual better than the manual on the dtnrg site ( http://www.dtnrg.org/docs/code/DTN2/doc/manual/) I could look at?

Thank you,
Timur

Yes -- you can use the console to add links just like in the static
config.

If you add to the daemon configuration:

console set addr 127.0.0.1
console set port 5050

Then when the daemon is running, you can telnet to localhost port
5050 and run the "link add" command.

Obviously you can pick any port you want.

-mike

On Jul 27, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Timur Alperovich wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm new to DTN and was hoping to use it on a network we're setting
> up. I wanted to have the nodes added/disconnected at random, and
> thus would not know their addresses. Is there a way to add links
> after the daemon started? I've searched the documentation online
> but as far as I could see the links are configured in the config
> script.
>
> Thank you,
> Timur



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------=_Part_9502_8643176.1185815958366-- Received: from gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.60.93]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l6RKk9J15165 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:46:09 -0700 Received: from [10.212.2.192] (bldmz-nat-161-182.berkeley.intel-research.net [12.155.161.182]) (authenticated bits=0) by gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.14.1/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l6RKk79w029592 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:46:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52950c3f0707271342g3a3b5f27t486eac2266755662@mail.gmail.com> References: <52950c3f0707271342g3a3b5f27t486eac2266755662@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Demmer Subject: Re: [dtn-users] tcp neighbor discovery X-Applemailsentby: demmer Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:46:03 -0700 To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Yes -- you can use the console to add links just like in the static config. If you add to the daemon configuration: console set addr 127.0.0.1 console set port 5050 Then when the daemon is running, you can telnet to localhost port 5050 and run the "link add" command. Obviously you can pick any port you want. -mike On Jul 27, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Timur Alperovich wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to DTN and was hoping to use it on a network we're setting > up. I wanted to have the nodes added/disconnected at random, and > thus would not know their addresses. Is there a way to add links > after the daemon started? I've searched the documentation online > but as far as I could see the links are configured in the config > script. > > Thank you, > Timur Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l6RKgFJ15128 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:42:15 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f1so114455rvb for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:42:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=jkBzLg6ffchUBrZBxAUD3VRqbr8jf56nxw47pRf/F8TbDNi8gosFCrQrZNs0+1ZHkMJqlte9tluINhrQkPH6+O4OoCdrE9i5+6grfK9JNK3l8wOCWES0DuwHoKheYKR7caMY5peI9n6jW3t/6YldjVR0eZ6VbLGEZCjLH8+8SL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=S63/nvU0zRH3+UJFWiA4yDmwTRJ/PsDAXR5KS+ju+XklRNKc+akuOvDFZw9cwyFgIDf+lR1CvLacE9mXSkb6ToeltXmEKDDdKbUWjTnZo7Vrm63f80sAve+9RK5TsPweV5sEKEzK/Ps8gY32JbjEdoiTdztvHq4dDfb4qecmgKw= Received: by 10.141.32.8 with SMTP id k8mr1057275rvj.1185568929884; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.164.16 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52950c3f0707271342g3a3b5f27t486eac2266755662@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:42:09 -0400 From: "Timur Alperovich" To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3678_7337160.1185568929872" Subject: [dtn-users] tcp neighbor discovery Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: ------=_Part_3678_7337160.1185568929872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I'm new to DTN and was hoping to use it on a network we're setting up. I wanted to have the nodes added/disconnected at random, and thus would not know their addresses. Is there a way to add links after the daemon started? I've searched the documentation online but as far as I could see the links are configured in the config script. Thank you, Timur ------=_Part_3678_7337160.1185568929872 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi,

I'm new to DTN and was hoping to use it on a network we're setting up. I wanted to have the nodes added/disconnected at random, and thus would not know their addresses. Is there a way to add links after the daemon started? I've searched the documentation online but as far as I could see the links are configured in the config script.

Thank you,
Timur
------=_Part_3678_7337160.1185568929872-- Received: from gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.60.93]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l6HHlJY32633; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:47:19 -0700 Received: from [10.212.2.196] (bldmz-nat-161-182.berkeley.intel-research.net [12.155.161.182]) (authenticated bits=0) by gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.14.1/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l6HHlGUL008285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:47:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <469CF367.5050702@ieee.org> References: <469CF367.5050702@ieee.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <77EF67D7-9641-4A9D-B8EA-7FCA6F1D7B69@cs.berkeley.edu> Cc: dtn-interest , dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Demmer X-Applemailsentby: demmer Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:47:17 -0700 To: Eric Coe X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: [dtn-users] Re: [dtn-interest] DTN2 reference implementation release 2.4.0 Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Strange -- I had written the updates and thought I committed them to the wiki, however apparently I didn't. In any event, I've now updated the wiki so the links are correct. -mike On Jul 17, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Eric Coe wrote: > Until the wiki is updated here is a direct link to the 2.4.0 code: > > http://www.dtnrg.org/docs/code/dtn_2.4.0.tgz > > > -eric > > > Michael Demmer wrote: >> Hi all, >> I'm pleased to announce the 2.4.0 release of the DTN2 reference >> implementation. The most recent excerpt from the RELEASE-NOTES is >> included below. >> As always, this release is available at http://www.dtnrg.org/wiki/ >> Code. >> Happy bundling! >> -mike >> --- >> 2.4.0 (July 2007) >> ----------------- >> - BBN updated the protocol implementation to conform to BP spec >> version 10, implementing bundle protocol version 5, converting most >> fixed-length fields to SDNVs and several other changes. >> - BBN added support for external convergence layers and data stores, >> matching the DTN reference architecture specification, as well as >> support for deleting links. >> - BBN added support for the metadata extension block and improved >> fragmentation handling. >> - Added a new router implementation called DTLSR (Delay Tolerant Link >> State Routing) intended for environments where the inter-node >> relationships are fairly stable, but links may go up and down. >> - Added support for forwarding a bundle with a wildcard >> destination to >> multiple next-hops, which can be used to implement simple or >> constrained flooding even with the static router. >> - Significantly improved the DTN simulator environment including >> adding support for bandwidth and storage limits on nodes, a >> structured output format for better post-processing of simulation >> results, and an internal restructuring making the simulation >> environment match the real-world environment much more closely. >> - Reworked the internal class used to represent bundle payloads so >> that the router can now support fully in-memory bundles which can >> safely contain binary data in all cases. >> - Jeff Wilson did a complete rewrite of the Prophet router >> implementation. >> - Changed the API to include bundle creation timestamp when receiving >> a bundle so that it's available to applications that may need it. >> - Added support for neighbor discovery that uses multicast dns (aka >> Apple's Bonjour protocol). Reworked the internal structure of the >> neighbor discovery subsystem. >> - Made optimizations to the table based routers (including the >> default >> static router) to be more efficient when links are coming up and >> down. >> - Updated the dtntunnel application to support tunnelling protocols >> where the server side is the first to send data. Reworked command >> line arguments to be more intuitive (and similar to ssh tunnels). >> - Added a dtntraceroute application that sends a single bundle, >> with a >> bunch of status report flags turned on and prints out the times >> embedded in the status reports that come back. >> - Modified the build environment to enable liboasys and libdtnapi to >> be built as shared libraries, and thereby used via SWIG export to >> other programming languages. >> - Resurrected the Cygwin build though it's not yet back to full >> functionality. >> _______________________________________________ >> dtn-interest mailing list >> dtn-interest@mailman.dtnrg.org >> http://mailman.dtnrg.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn-interest > Received: from web8902.mail.in.yahoo.com (web8902.mail.in.yahoo.com [203.84.221.30]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id l6F7NTY25455 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 00:23:29 -0700 Received: (qmail 14786 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jul 2007 07:23:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.in; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=dlIVratLMd8OhVtn3vQB1BGmsAxxuMRJp0R0/BKB9ufo7DEV/hmYaAiltVnlbBsLTuBCJvL5f4AwBdxwqTKuJDjR8UVBWInV1gHvuuWeksBQzVCnn0gnxexRWnM1eb8kz7Oh8e34T9j+gsF9l6jtHpGRLGjtK8zbpuTV2YJQRDs=; X-YMail-OSG: lSY2idgVM1mLJo2ryOvhJWD4eXoTdTTu8ZSXIsLRFGsgjGv1.o6zka6Go9uvP68ISXx4FKHooKNmAc2e4PmsrMNvugfrr9VhbYj2cbrl1CDxtNous_1daKqWEDODhg-- Received: from [129.110.93.44] by web8902.mail.in.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:23:17 BST Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:23:17 +0100 (BST) From: patel ankit To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1423868828-1184484197=:14362" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <256988.14362.qm@web8902.mail.in.yahoo.com> Subject: [dtn-users] DTNsim2-documentation Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: --0-1423868828-1184484197=:14362 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello everyone, I am new to dtnsim2. I am able to compile and run DTNsim2, but after running it, program doesn't ask for any input not only that it is not giving any output. It just terminate quietly. I have no idea what should i input and what i will get as an output. Did anybody has anykind of documentation which describes DTNsim2. Documentation can be reference mannual, user mannual,... anything. Waiting for reply Thanking you Ankit Patel --------------------------------- 5, 50, 500, 5000. Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click here. --0-1423868828-1184484197=:14362 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello everyone,
I am new to dtnsim2. I am able to compile and run DTNsim2, but after running it, program doesn't ask for any input not only that it is not giving any output. It just terminate quietly. I have no idea what should i input and what i will get as an output.
Did anybody has anykind of documentation which describes DTNsim2. Documentation can be reference mannual, user mannual,... anything.
Waiting for reply
Thanking you


Ankit Patel


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Click here. --0-1423868828-1184484197=:14362-- Received: from gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.60.93]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l6DMUWY12205; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:30:32 -0700 Received: from [10.212.2.177] (bldmz-nat-161-182.berkeley.intel-research.net [12.155.161.182]) (authenticated bits=0) by gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.14.1/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l6DMUUa5007615 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Demmer X-Applemailsentby: demmer Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:30:27 -0700 To: dtn-interest , dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: [dtn-users] DTN2 reference implementation release 2.4.0 Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, I'm pleased to announce the 2.4.0 release of the DTN2 reference implementation. The most recent excerpt from the RELEASE-NOTES is included below. As always, this release is available at http://www.dtnrg.org/wiki/Code. Happy bundling! -mike --- 2.4.0 (July 2007) ----------------- - BBN updated the protocol implementation to conform to BP spec version 10, implementing bundle protocol version 5, converting most fixed-length fields to SDNVs and several other changes. - BBN added support for external convergence layers and data stores, matching the DTN reference architecture specification, as well as support for deleting links. - BBN added support for the metadata extension block and improved fragmentation handling. - Added a new router implementation called DTLSR (Delay Tolerant Link State Routing) intended for environments where the inter-node relationships are fairly stable, but links may go up and down. - Added support for forwarding a bundle with a wildcard destination to multiple next-hops, which can be used to implement simple or constrained flooding even with the static router. - Significantly improved the DTN simulator environment including adding support for bandwidth and storage limits on nodes, a structured output format for better post-processing of simulation results, and an internal restructuring making the simulation environment match the real-world environment much more closely. - Reworked the internal class used to represent bundle payloads so that the router can now support fully in-memory bundles which can safely contain binary data in all cases. - Jeff Wilson did a complete rewrite of the Prophet router implementation. - Changed the API to include bundle creation timestamp when receiving a bundle so that it's available to applications that may need it. - Added support for neighbor discovery that uses multicast dns (aka Apple's Bonjour protocol). Reworked the internal structure of the neighbor discovery subsystem. - Made optimizations to the table based routers (including the default static router) to be more efficient when links are coming up and down. - Updated the dtntunnel application to support tunnelling protocols where the server side is the first to send data. Reworked command line arguments to be more intuitive (and similar to ssh tunnels). - Added a dtntraceroute application that sends a single bundle, with a bunch of status report flags turned on and prints out the times embedded in the status reports that come back. - Modified the build environment to enable liboasys and libdtnapi to be built as shared libraries, and thereby used via SWIG export to other programming languages. - Resurrected the Cygwin build though it's not yet back to full functionality. Received: from lea.cs.unibo.it (lea.cs.unibo.it [130.136.1.101]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l6BFNKY18785 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:23:20 -0700 Received: from dotto.cs.unibo.it (dotto.cs.unibo.it [130.136.4.180]) by lea.cs.unibo.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB5AA4060; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:23:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (gsollazz@localhost) by dotto.cs.unibo.it (8.9.3p2/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA07096; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:23:18 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: dotto.cs.unibo.it: gsollazz owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:23:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Giuseppe Sollazzo To: Maicke Cabral cc: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org Subject: Re: [dtn-users] DTN Simulator In-Reply-To: <816744.93561.qm@web33713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net id l6BFNKY18785 Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Maicke, I think you should try to clarify what kind of DTN you want to simulate. As you can, see, the difference between a Manet and a DTN is that the latter is much more generic and includes very different kind of challenges (the classical example: you usually do not include Space communications when researching Manets, while this is quite a common environment for those interested in DTN). Manets are a sub-category of DTNs, as Vanets are. Being a DTN many different things, if you want to simulate a DTN maybe you should try to understand to what level of generality you want your simulator to work and on which environment, for example starting for the area (a bluetooth Dtn could run in a km^2 area if tens of nodes are available, but different protocols can exhibit different abilities). Many of the works you mantion work at the link-up/link-down level since this is the most general to work with, and it caters for many different situations. If you want to model different adverse situation, you may be interested in simulating underwater communications or transmissions during electronic storms, say, by considering in the pattern of traffic also the noise, which is of course a more intense simulation than only considering disconnections and reconnections. Good luck! Giuseppe On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Maicke Cabral wrote: > Hello !!! I have a big doubt! How can I implement a DTN network in a simulator? We know that DTN networks work in adverse situations. How can I implement this situations? We know the TCP do not work in extreme situations. How can I implement a extreme situation in a mobile ad hoc network? How can I see, for example, in NS-2, Omnet++, etc, this situations? I have this doubts, because I have seem some works, that the authors only put intermittent conections (ex: with the command link-down, link-up in NS-2), but do not present an adverse situation. and finally, other doubt: What the diferrence betwwen Manets and DTN? How could a ad hoc network lost a logic connection end-to-end? Thank you I will wait the answers In this moment I am implementing a simple simulator bye Maicke ____________________________________________________________________________________ Novo Yahoo! 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=0A=0A=0A = Flickr agora em portugu=EAs. Voc=EA cria, todo mundo v=EA. Saiba mais.=0A --0-1098949183-1184165893=:93561-- Received: from relay.imagine.ie (dns1.dns.imagine.ie [87.232.1.40]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l65GHoY31108 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:17:50 -0700 Received: from mail1.int.imagine.ie (mail1 [87.232.1.152]) by relay.imagine.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE80E325DF for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:17:48 +0100 (IST) Received: from [10.87.48.2] (dsl-102-234.cust.imagine.ie [87.232.102.234]) by mail1.int.imagine.ie (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l65GHlPc023581 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:17:48 +0100 Message-ID: <468D1A1A.5000209@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:19:38 +0100 From: Stephen Farrell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org Subject: Re: [dtn-users] EID ssp case sensitivity... References: <468BB67F.3000108@cs.tcd.ie> <3C9594CD-F2F4-47DC-914E-468B363322D4@cs.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <3C9594CD-F2F4-47DC-914E-468B363322D4@cs.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0) X-Spam-Score: 0.00 () [Hold at 8.00] X-Canit-Stats-ID: 11225033 - a0a88385aba9 (trained as not-spam) X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 87.232.1.52 Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Michael Demmer wrote: > > Are you using the tip of the CVS tree or the 2.3.0 release? 2.3.0 > In the current tip of the tree which will be the 2.4.0 release shortly, > all URIs used in EndpointIDs are normalized which, among other things, > converts them to entirely lowercase. Good plan for DNS names, could be problematic for path names, but we can decide now that dtn: ssp's are to be case insenstive whenever they are ascii characters (might be difficult to state that precisely). > Adding the .dtn extension is just a convention that I've adopted in my > examples so that people don't think that they are DNS names by looking > at them (since they're not). Maybe that causes more confusion than it avoids though? Certainly threw me a bit. "_dtn.foo.example.com" would have been less confusing for me anyway (compared to "foo.example.com.dtn"). S. Received: from smtp-mclean.mitre.org (smtpproxy2.mitre.org [192.80.55.71]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l65GH3Y31104 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:17:03 -0700 Received: from smtp-mclean.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-mclean.mitre.org (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id l65GH2p2027578 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:17:02 -0400 Received: from smtp-mclean.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-mclean.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99CD4F8D7 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imcfe2.MITRE.ORG (imcfe2.mitre.org [129.83.29.4]) by smtp-mclean.mitre.org (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l65GH2Zx027537 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:17:02 -0400 Received: from IMCSRV4.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.20.161]) by imcfe2.MITRE.ORG with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:17:01 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [dtn-users] EID ssp case sensitivity... Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:17:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3B660B4ACB06BE488E3938F95115E4DE01C70E70@IMCSRV4.MITRE.ORG> In-Reply-To: <3C9594CD-F2F4-47DC-914E-468B363322D4@cs.berkeley.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [dtn-users] EID ssp case sensitivity... Thread-Index: Ace/HqsFWUc+GqmrRoiQ3RpZ9nsq8QAAP/Nw References: <468BB67F.3000108@cs.tcd.ie> <3C9594CD-F2F4-47DC-914E-468B363322D4@cs.berkeley.edu> From: "Durst, Robert C." To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jul 2007 16:17:01.0900 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB7BD0C0:01C7BF1F] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net id l65GH3Y31104 Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Mike, Just a quick question on this: does the conversion to lowercase have a (negative) effect on a user if they were to present an ascii-fied UTF-8 string as an eid? (I don't recall whether the representation methods use uppercase ascii as part of the encoding.) Thanks, Bob |-----Original Message----- |From: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org |[mailto:dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Demmer |Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:05 PM |To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org |Subject: Re: [dtn-users] EID ssp case sensitivity... | | |Are you using the tip of the CVS tree or the 2.3.0 release? | |In the current tip of the tree which will be the 2.4.0 release |shortly, all URIs used in EndpointIDs are normalized which, among |other things, converts them to entirely lowercase. | |Adding the .dtn extension is just a convention that I've adopted in |my examples so that people don't think that they are DNS names by |looking at them (since they're not). | |-mike | |On Jul 4, 2007, at 8:02 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: | |> |> When dtnd is matching EIDs to figure whether or not it |> has a route, it appears to be doing a case sensitive |> match on the SSP, in particular the "host-like" part. |> |> In my config I get "dtn://Hostname.tcd.ie.dtn/*" |> because the of the "[info hosthame]" in the dtn.conf. |> |> But, the route in my case is set for "dtn://hostname.tcd.ie.dtn/*" |> which doesn't match (the bundle in this case is a custody |> ack). |> |> So, questions: |> |> 1) If I want to make that a case-insensitive SSP match, how'd |> I do that? |> |> 2) Should it be case insensitive or not? DNS names are, but the |> addition of the ".dtn" means these aren't DNS names really. |> (Why do we add ".dtn" anyway? Can't see a benefit.) |> |> 3) If case sensitive is right, any ideas on how better to setup |> dtn.conf so that only lc (or UC) DNS names are used? |> |> Ta, |> S. |> |> PS: Not a major deal, I have a workaround for what I'm doing, but |> I guess something to work on as we delve more into what "dtn://" |> means. |> |> _______________________________________________ |> dtn-users mailing list |> dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org |> http://mailman.dtnrg.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn-users | |_______________________________________________ |dtn-users mailing list |dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org |http://mailman.dtnrg.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn-users | Received: from gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.60.93]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l65G5AY31013 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:05:10 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (dsl081-061-178.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.61.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by gateway0.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.14.1/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l65G53Pj006174 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:05:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <468BB67F.3000108@cs.tcd.ie> References: <468BB67F.3000108@cs.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3C9594CD-F2F4-47DC-914E-468B363322D4@cs.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Demmer Subject: Re: [dtn-users] EID ssp case sensitivity... X-Applemailsentby: demmer Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:04:59 -0700 To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Are you using the tip of the CVS tree or the 2.3.0 release? In the current tip of the tree which will be the 2.4.0 release shortly, all URIs used in EndpointIDs are normalized which, among other things, converts them to entirely lowercase. Adding the .dtn extension is just a convention that I've adopted in my examples so that people don't think that they are DNS names by looking at them (since they're not). -mike On Jul 4, 2007, at 8:02 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > When dtnd is matching EIDs to figure whether or not it > has a route, it appears to be doing a case sensitive > match on the SSP, in particular the "host-like" part. > > In my config I get "dtn://Hostname.tcd.ie.dtn/*" > because the of the "[info hosthame]" in the dtn.conf. > > But, the route in my case is set for "dtn://hostname.tcd.ie.dtn/*" > which doesn't match (the bundle in this case is a custody > ack). > > So, questions: > > 1) If I want to make that a case-insensitive SSP match, how'd > I do that? > > 2) Should it be case insensitive or not? DNS names are, but the > addition of the ".dtn" means these aren't DNS names really. > (Why do we add ".dtn" anyway? Can't see a benefit.) > > 3) If case sensitive is right, any ideas on how better to setup > dtn.conf so that only lc (or UC) DNS names are used? > > Ta, > S. > > PS: Not a major deal, I have a workaround for what I'm doing, but > I guess something to work on as we delve more into what "dtn://" > means. > > _______________________________________________ > dtn-users mailing list > dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org > http://mailman.dtnrg.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn-users Received: from masaka.cs.ohiou.edu (masaka.cs.ohiou.edu [132.235.3.154]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l64NdRY24291; Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:39:27 -0700 Received: from masaka.cs.ohiou.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by masaka.cs.ohiou.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l64NdMBL024869; Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jdeshpan@localhost) by masaka.cs.ohiou.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id l64NdLWc024868; Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:39:21 -0400 From: Jayram Deshpande To: DTN interest Group , DTN users Group Cc: CETS List Message-ID: <20070704233921.GA24691@irg.cs.ohiou.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.ent.ohiou.edu/~jayram/pubkey.asc Subject: [dtn-users] Finite state machine for Bundling and LTP Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Reply-To: jdeshpan@masaka.cs.ohiou.edu List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, The Bundling draft [1] explains all the different control=20 messages that need to be exchanged and the conditions under=20 which they are generated. I would like to suggest adding a=20 formal state machine (more like a FSM diagram) to the bundling=20 draft that would make things easier for those of us who may not=20 be in touch with latest updates/changes. On the coding side, last time I dipped myself through the code=20 (almost an year ago when I was working on a Java Implementation=20 of the Bundling Protocol), the state transitions and different=20 events handling was done with a 'switch- case' based model, we may=20 want to use a two dimensional array of function pointers (states=20 and events being the two dimensions) that would make code a little 'better looking' (may be). =20 -Jay. =20 P.S. The state machine suggestion also applies to the LTP.=20 =20 --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (SunOS) iD8DBQFGjC+oXDbUDHekbqQRAiJdAKCxmQI5kUvoCZOKgmNg5CC6BBe8tgCgs4QJ 5tf7bTd4wJ8uSJMxsI+URPg= =xhId -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- Received: from imx2.tcd.ie (wpad.iss.tcd.ie [134.226.1.156]) by webbie.berkeley.intel-research.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l64F0XY20879 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:00:33 -0700 Received: from Vams.imx2 (imx2.tcd.ie [134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with SMTP id 34A8668039 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:00:27 +0100 (IST) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) with SMTP (gateway) id A00F19312D5; Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:00:27 +0100 Received: from [134.226.62.126] (cswireless62-126.cs.tcd.ie [134.226.62.126]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2FE68043 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:00:27 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <468BB67F.3000108@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:02:23 +0100 From: Stephen Farrell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiVirus-Status: MessageID = A10F19312D5 X-AntiVirus-Status: Host: imx2.tcd.ie X-AntiVirus-Status: Action Taken: X-AntiVirus-Status: NONE X-AntiVirus-Status: Checked by TCD Vexira. (version=1.57.6 VDF=9.87.2) Subject: [dtn-users] EID ssp case sensitivity... Sender: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org Errors-To: dtn-users-admin@mailman.dtnrg.org X-BeenThere: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dtn-users@mailman.dtnrg.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: discussion/answers list for users of the dtn reference implementation List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: When dtnd is matching EIDs to figure whether or not it has a route, it appears to be doing a case sensitive match on the SSP, in particular the "host-like" part. In my config I get "dtn://Hostname.tcd.ie.dtn/*" because the of the "[info hosthame]" in the dtn.conf. But, the route in my case is set for "dtn://hostname.tcd.ie.dtn/*" which doesn't match (the bundle in this case is a custody ack). So, questions: 1) If I want to make that a case-insensitive SSP match, how'd I do that? 2) Should it be case insensitive or not? DNS names are, but the addition of the ".dtn" means these aren't DNS names really. (Why do we add ".dtn" anyway? Can't see a benefit.) 3) If case sensitive is right, any ideas on how better to setup dtn.conf so that only lc (or UC) DNS names are used? Ta, S. PS: Not a major deal, I have a workaround for what I'm doing, but I guess something to work on as we delve more into what "dtn://" means.