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Hi:

Because there are so many different tunnel technologies and so many
different ways in which these can be used, clarity would be extremely
useful. So, I'd highly recommend adding diagrams and descriptions of the
likely uses unless there are good IETF documents elsewhere that can be
referenced (and referenced explicitly, with figure and section numbers).

I don't understand the diagram you included Daniel. Modifying Ralph's,
perhaps it should look like:

          IPv6|<-------------IPv4 only----------->|<--IPv6--...

          +-------+            IPv4          +--------+
          | Dual  |          network         | Tunnel |
          | Host  +------------core----------+endpoint|
          +-------+              |           +--------+
                             +---+--+
                             | DHCP |
                             |server|
                             +------+

The Dual [Stack] host tunnels traffic over IPv4 to get IPv6 =
connectivity.

I'm also wondering whether there would ever need to be any redundancy in =
the
tunnel end-points and whether returning a list of IPv4 addresses would =
be
appropriate. The node can try the first, if no response (not exactly =
sure
how it would tell - no RA?), it can try the others? But perhaps this is
unneeded complexity at this time as there may not be any easy way for a =
node
to tell if the end-point is up?

- Bernie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org]=20
> On Behalf Of Soohong Daniel Park
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 8:09 PM
> To: Ralph Droms; dhcwg@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [dhcwg] IPv6 tunnelling options for IPv4
>=20
>=20
> > I've been reviewing draft-daniel-dhc-ipv6in4-opt-04.txt - does=20
> > draft-daniel-dhc-ipv6in4-opt-04.txt specify "configured=20
> IPv6-over-IPv4=20
> > tunneling", as described in section 4 of RFC 2893?  If so,=20
> it would be=20
> > helpful to include a specific reference, as there are numerous=20
> > tunneling and "IPv6-xxx-IPv4" transition mechanisms...
>=20
> So, I've added this concern into the revised version.
>=20
> >=20
> > I can imagine the mechanism in
> > draft-daniel-dhc-ipv6in4-opt-04.txt as being
> > useful in the following scenario:
> >=20
> > <---IPv6---->|<-------------IPv4 only----------->|<--IPv6--...
> >=20
> >           +-------+     +------+              +--------+
> >           |  CPE  |     | Edge |      ISP     | Tunnel |
> >           |gateway+-----+Router+-----core-----+endpoint|
> >           +-------+     +------+       |      +--------+
> >                                    +---+--+
> >                                    | DHCP |
> >                                    |server|
> >                                    +------+
> >=20
> > In this scenario, the CPE gateway uses DHCPv4 to obtain its IPv4
> > address and
> > other configuration information.  The DHCPv4 configured=20
> tunnel endpoint
> > option would provide the IPv4 address of the ISP tunnel endpoint=20
> > as part of
> > the DHCPv4 configuration process to the CPE gateway, which=20
> would then use
> > that IPv4 address as the destination to tunnel IPv6 traffic from the
> > customer network through the IPv4-only portion of the ISP network.
> >=20
>=20
> Also, this option is useful for dual stack user to obtain its=20
> IPv6 connectivity
> via IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel within its IPv4 network.
>=20
>                          [DHCP server]
>                                   |
>                                   |
> <-----IPv4--------------------+------------------------>IPv6
> [IPv4/6 user]=3D=3DIPv6-over-IPv4 Tunnel=3D=3D=3D>
>=20
>=20
> > If I have this scenario right, it would help to include a=20
> > description of it
> > in draft-daniel-dhc-ipv6in4-opt-04.txt, both to clarify the=20
> use of the
> > option and motivate the requirements for its definition.
> =20
> Originally, I thought of this point as out of scope of the=20
> draft because
> several similar draft were proposed in this WG without specific=20
> description of use case like mine. If needed, it can be done simply.
>=20
> > Is the expectation in draft-daniel-dhc-ipv6in4-opt-04.txt=20
> that the tunnel,
> > once established, looks like a simple link to the IPv6 stack? =20
> > That is, will
> > RAs be exchanged and ND be run across the link?  Will the=20
> tunnel endpoints
> > use a routing protocol?
>=20
> It was also tested and added into the new version. RA runs well=20
> via this configured tunnel.
>=20
>=20
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>      Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park)
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Hi Bernie

> Because there are so many different tunnel technologies and so many
> different ways in which these can be used, clarity would be extremely
> useful. So, I'd highly recommend adding diagrams and descriptions of the
> likely uses unless there are good IETF documents elsewhere that can be
> referenced (and referenced explicitly, with figure and section numbers).

no problem here.

> I don't understand the diagram you included Daniel. Modifying Ralph's,
> perhaps it should look like:
> 
>           IPv6|<-------------IPv4 only----------->|<--IPv6--...
> 
>           +-------+            IPv4          +--------+
>           | Dual  |          network         | Tunnel |
>           | Host  +------------core----------+endpoint|
>           +-------+              |           +--------+
>                              +---+--+
>                              | DHCP |
>                              |server|
>                              +------+
> 
> The Dual [Stack] host tunnels traffic over IPv4 to get IPv6 connectivity.

It's why we need a IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel. There are several possible
use cases according to this tunnel and your depict is one of them.

> I'm also wondering whether there would ever need to be any 
> redundancy in the
> tunnel end-points and whether returning a list of IPv4 addresses would be
> appropriate. The node can try the first, if no response (not exactly sure
> how it would tell - no RA?), it can try the others? But perhaps this is
> unneeded complexity at this time as there may not be any easy way 
> for a node
> to tell if the end-point is up?

In my figure below, when a dual stack node attached to IPv4 only network
generates an IPv6 packet for IPv6 connectivity, it must use a tunnel
interface among its multiple internal interfaces. At that time, IPv6 packet is
encapsulated in IPv4 packet and forwarded it to the tunnel endpoint
via IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel which is already configured by this mechanism 
proposed in this draft automatically. Tunnel protocol must allow for means 
for one tunnel endpoint to verify the reachability of other tunnel endpoint 
towards which it intends to send packets.When I implemented this
mechanism with DHCP, I used TCP/UDP port assigned by admin in 
advance between dual stack node and tunnel endpoint and it works
well of course.

>                          [DHCP server]
>                                   |
>                                   |
> <-----IPv4--------------------+------------------------>IPv6
> [IPv4/6 user]==IPv6-over-IPv4 Tunnel===>



As I indicated earlier (many times), this task works in progress in v6ops
and here are several related document as below;

DHCP approach aims the same concern of below documents

http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-palet-v6ops-tun-auto-disc-01.txt
http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-nielsen-v6ops-zeroconf-goals-01.txt


     Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park)
     Mobile Platform Lab. Samsung Electronics.


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Hello,

Could you please answer my question about All_DHCP_SERVERS Multicast address?

Can I think that the All_DHCP_SERVERS multicast packet defined as Site
local Address exceeds router in the same site? 

On the other hand, it is a direction where the use of a site local
address with IPv6 is prohibited. How is the All_DHCP_SERVERS multicast
address used for the future? 

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On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 04:47:44PM +0900, OTA Masazumi wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Could you please answer my question about All_DHCP_SERVERS Multicast address?
> 
> Can I think that the All_DHCP_SERVERS multicast packet defined as Site
> local Address exceeds router in the same site? 

The site boundary should be defined on the border routers so that they
don't forward packets or send e.g. PIM messages for site-scoped groups
outside the site.

> On the other hand, it is a direction where the use of a site local
> address with IPv6 is prohibited. How is the All_DHCP_SERVERS multicast
> address used for the future? 

It's only the site local unicast addresses that are gone. Scoping for
IPv6 multicast has not changed in any way.

Stig

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Thank you for your reply.

I understood 
 Border router judge whether packets can pass or not.
 Site local multicast address is alive.

-Masazumi

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The latest version of draft-daniel-dhc-ipv6in4-opt appears in the
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Above all, this protocol works well in our enterprise networks.

Change log:

1. Added some text with use case and detailed flow of this protocol.
2. Text improvement around this draft.
3. Added Terminology section to clarify what tunnel is used in this draft.
4. Added Implementation Experience section for useful information.


Now, I'd ask the dhc folks whether it is ready to be accepted 
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Vijay and I have updated draft-vijay-dhc-dhcpv6-mcast-reconf draft
reflecting valuable comments from several guys as below:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-vijay-dhc-dhcpv6-mcast-reconf-01.txt

Especially, O-Policy is newly applied for this protocol in conjunction
with M/O document to reconfigure the stateless DHCPv6 domain without 
other protocol extension (Refresh Other Configuration Option of IPv6 RA).
It would be useful to adopt this protocol to reconfigure the stateless
DHCPv6 domain in a instant manner.


All comments are highly welcome.


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Based on the documents you refer to, it seems that Ralph's diagram, 
which includes an IPv6 router/gateway in the home, is not specifically a 
target of this option, or of the zeroconf tunnel architecture.  The 
zeroconf-goals document describes the need to assign a single /128 
address to the host (sec. 3.1).  While it's possible to support a v6 
gateway on the DHCPv4 client end of the link (through manual 
configuration of IPv6 networks, and RIP, or through DHCPv6 prefix 
delegation), it seems out of scope for this particular document.

In relation to RFC 2983, I think it would be useful to indicate that 
this is in support of automatically configuring a host to router 
configured tunnel (not "automatic tunneling").  By definition, this is 
unidirectional.  Then, if the intent is to support an automated 
establishment of a reverse configured tunnel, that is up to the TEP and 
the host, and to a large extent is beyond the scope of this document.  I 
would think a different document, most likely within v6ops, would define 
things such as how the TEP decides to accept the tunnel, how it decides 
to assist the host in global address assignment, how it the two maintain 
reachability, etc.  In other words, I would thing the details of reverse 
tunnel establishment and maintenance, addressing, etc., would be part of 
a tunnel protocol document that cites this one as the way to kick things 
off.

  -josh

Soohong Daniel Park wrote:
> Hi Bernie
> 
> 
>>Because there are so many different tunnel technologies and so many
>>different ways in which these can be used, clarity would be extremely
>>useful. So, I'd highly recommend adding diagrams and descriptions of the
>>likely uses unless there are good IETF documents elsewhere that can be
>>referenced (and referenced explicitly, with figure and section numbers).
> 
> 
> no problem here.
> 
> 
>>I don't understand the diagram you included Daniel. Modifying Ralph's,
>>perhaps it should look like:
>>
>>          IPv6|<-------------IPv4 only----------->|<--IPv6--...
>>
>>          +-------+            IPv4          +--------+
>>          | Dual  |          network         | Tunnel |
>>          | Host  +------------core----------+endpoint|
>>          +-------+              |           +--------+
>>                             +---+--+
>>                             | DHCP |
>>                             |server|
>>                             +------+
>>
>>The Dual [Stack] host tunnels traffic over IPv4 to get IPv6 connectivity.
> 
> 
> It's why we need a IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel. There are several possible
> use cases according to this tunnel and your depict is one of them.
> 
> 
>>I'm also wondering whether there would ever need to be any 
>>redundancy in the
>>tunnel end-points and whether returning a list of IPv4 addresses would be
>>appropriate. The node can try the first, if no response (not exactly sure
>>how it would tell - no RA?), it can try the others? But perhaps this is
>>unneeded complexity at this time as there may not be any easy way 
>>for a node
>>to tell if the end-point is up?
> 
> 
> In my figure below, when a dual stack node attached to IPv4 only network
> generates an IPv6 packet for IPv6 connectivity, it must use a tunnel
> interface among its multiple internal interfaces. At that time, IPv6 packet is
> encapsulated in IPv4 packet and forwarded it to the tunnel endpoint
> via IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel which is already configured by this mechanism 
> proposed in this draft automatically. Tunnel protocol must allow for means 
> for one tunnel endpoint to verify the reachability of other tunnel endpoint 
> towards which it intends to send packets.When I implemented this
> mechanism with DHCP, I used TCP/UDP port assigned by admin in 
> advance between dual stack node and tunnel endpoint and it works
> well of course.
> 
> 
>>                         [DHCP server]
>>                                  |
>>                                  |
>><-----IPv4--------------------+------------------------>IPv6
>>[IPv4/6 user]==IPv6-over-IPv4 Tunnel===>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As I indicated earlier (many times), this task works in progress in v6ops
> and here are several related document as below;
> 
> DHCP approach aims the same concern of below documents
> 
> http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-palet-v6ops-tun-auto-disc-01.txt
> http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-nielsen-v6ops-zeroconf-goals-01.txt
> 
> 
>      Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park)
>      Mobile Platform Lab. Samsung Electronics.
> 
> 
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        RFC 3898

        Title:      Network Information Service (NIS)
                    Configuration Options for Dynamic
                    Host Configuration Protocol for IPv6 (DHCPv6)
        Author(s):  V. Kalusivalingam
        Status:     Standards Track
        Date:       October 2004
        Mailbox:    vibhaska@cisco.com
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        Characters: 13955
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:    None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-05.txt

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Hello,

Perhaps you've already forgotten the context, but I'm now revising the
dhcpv6-clarify-auth draft, and would like to address your concern in
the next version.

>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:10:35 +0900, 
>>>>> JINMEI Tatuya <jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp> said:

>> For stateless I think it's generally enough to authenticate the DHCP
>> server. In most cases I don't think it's important to guard against
>> replay, or to authenticate the client. That could perhaps simplify
>> the security mechanism. It's relatively easy to guard against replay
>> anyway though.

> On the one hand, I see and tend to agree that it's nice to prevent
> per-client state for "stateless" DHCP.

> On the other hand, we should be very careful when we are going to
> justify something that could introduce weaker security.  While the
> current main usage for stateless DHCP is client independent, the
> specification leaves the possibility for per-client configuration
> (otherwise, we could have prohibited including the client identifier
> option in Information-request in the first place).  Regarding replay
> attacks, the client might want to minimize the possibility of
> receiving a replayed reply to Information-request that contains a very
> small lifetime in the lifetime option.

> Perhaps a possible compromise would be something like this:

> - loosen the "MUST record the per-client state" to SHOULD
> - allow (using MAY) the server to not record the state when replay
>   attacks can be ignored and it is acceptable that Information-request
>   is always non-authenticated

> What do you think?

I've not seen any responses to this rough proposal, so I'm currently
going to implement the idea in the next draft.  I've attached the
current cut of the new text below (sorry, it's quite long), so it
would be nice if you could review and make comment on it (whether it's
acceptable or not, etc).

Thanks,

					JINMEI, Tatuya
					Communication Platform Lab.
					Corporate R&D Center, Toshiba Corp.
					jinmei@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp

2.  Usage with Information-Request

   According to [RFC3315], it seems possible to use the authentication
   mechanism for Information-request and Reply exchanges.  The RFC says
   in Section 21.4.4.4 as follows:

      If the server has selected a key for the client in a previous
      message exchange (see section 21.4.5.1), the client MUST use the
      same key to generate the authentication information throughout the
      session.

   However, this description is not really clear.  Section 21.4.5.1,
   which is referred from the above part, actually describes the case of
   Solicit and Advertise exchange:

      21.4.5.1.  Receiving Solicit Messages and Sending Advertise
      Messages

      The server selects a key for the client and includes
      authentication information in the Advertise message returned to
      the client as specified in section 21.4.  [...]

   It does not necessarily mean contradiction because the client and the
   server may have exchanged Solicit and Advertise with authentication
   before starting the Information-request and Reply exchange.  However,
   it then restricts the usage scenario of the authentication mechanism
   for Information-request and Reply exchanges.  In particular, this
   assumption prohibits the use of the mechanism with the "stateless"
   service using DHCPv6 [RFC3736].  Whereas the specification allows an
   implementation that only supports the stateless service and does not
   support Solicit and Advertise messages, the authentication mechanism
   depends on Solicit and Advertise exchanges.

   This fact can (partly) invalidate a security consideration in
   [RFC3736]:

      Authenticated DHCP, as described in sections 21 and 22.11 of the
      DHCP specification [1], can be used to avoid attacks mounted
      through the stateless DHCP service.

   (where [1] refers to [RFC3315].) In fact, as was just shown above,
   authenticated DHCP cannot be used unless the implementations also
   support Solicit and Advertise messages (or the entire [RFC3315] in
   general).

   It should also be noted that [RFC3315] does not define what the
   server should do when it receives an Information-request message
   containing an authentication option; Section 21.4.5.2 excludes the
   Information-request message.

2.1  Suggested Resolution

   Considering the fact that [RFC3736] allows implementations that only
   support the subset of the full specification [RFC3315], it should
   make sense to define the authentication usage for Information-request
   and Reply exchanges separately.

   One significant difference between Information-request and other
   "stateful" cases is that there is no explicit notion of "session" in
   the former.  In some cases, however, the same client and server may
   exchange Information-request and Reply multiple times, where the
   entire exchanges can be regarded as a "session".  For example, the
   client may want to get different configuration information in
   multiple exchanges.  Also, if the client and the server use the
   Information Refresh Time Option [I-D.ietf-dhc-lifetime], they will
   restart exchanges when the refresh time expires.

   On the other hand, keeping a "session" in the server decreases an
   advantage of the [RFC3736] usage that the server can run in a
   stateless fashion without any client-specific state.  Thus, it is
   worth considering a trade off between securing multiple exchanges as
   a single session and keeping the server stateless.

   Securing multiple exchanges has two beneficial points:

   o  the server can authenticate Information-request messages from the
      client.

   o  the client and the server can perform replay protection.

   In other words, it would make sense to separate each exchange and to
   keep the server stateless in the case where neither of them is
   desired.  And, in fact, it is not so important to authenticate
   client's messages in the current usage of [RFC3736] for providing
   client-independent information.  Additionally, replay attacks in such
   a typical usage might not be a big threat, since any Reply messages
   from the server will simply be the same.

   Still, there will be other cases where (one of) the above two points
   are important.  For example, if the address of a DNS recursive name
   resolver [RFC3646] is provided in reply to an Information-request
   message and the address is renumbered, the client will not want to be
   confused with the previous address containing the previous valid
   authentication information.  In this case, the client wants to reject
   such an invalid or stale Reply by the reply protection mechanism.
   Also, the current design of the Information-request message still
   allows including the Client DUID option in order for per-client
   configuration, while it is not common today.  In this type of
   configuration, the server will want to authenticate the client's
   request.

   The proposed revision of Section 21.4.4.4 is therefore as follows:

      21.4.4.4.  Sending Information-request Messages

      When the client sends an Information-request message and wishes to
      use authentication, it includes an Authentication option with the
      desired protocol, algorithm and RDM as described in section 21.4.
      The client does not include any replay detection or authentication
      information in the Authentication option.

      If the client authenticated past exchanges of Information-request
      and Reply, the client MAY reuse the same key used in the previous
      exchanges to generate the authentication information.  In this
      case, the client generates authentication information for the
      Information-request message as described in section 21.4.

      Normally, the client performs replay detection when it reuses the
      same key.  However, to be able to interoperate with "stateless"
      servers that do not maintain per-client state, the client MUST be
      configurable to turn off replay detection for a Reply message to
      Information-request.  Since disabling replay detection can cause a
      security threat, the client SHOULD be configured by default to
      enable it.

      Note that the keys used for these exchanges are separately managed
      from the keys used for the other exchanges beginning with the
      Solicit message when the two types of exchanges run concurrently,
      while the two keys may happen to be the same.  For example, replay
      detection should be performed separately, and validation failure
      for one type of exchanges does not affect the other.

   Section 21.4.4.5 will also need to be revised.  However, since this
   section has a separate issue per se as will be discussed in Section
   6, we do not discuss further details on this here.

   The server side behavior needs to be described, too.  Along with the
   above change to Section 21.4.4.4, we propose to add a new subsection
   of Section 21.4.5:

      21.4.5.x.  Receiving Information-request Messages and Sending
      Reply Messages

      If the Information-request message includes an authentication
      option without authentication information, the server selects a
      key for the client and includes authentication information in the
      Reply message returned to the client as specified in section 21.4.
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      future exchanges.

      In some cases, however, the server would rather be just stateless,
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      If the Information-request message includes an authentication
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      If the message passes the validation test, the server responds to
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      section 21.4.

      Note that the keys used for these exchanges are separately managed
      from the keys used for the other exchanges beginning with the
      Solicit message when the two types of exchanges run concurrently
      (See Section 21.4.4.4).

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Here's a first draft agenda for the dhc WG meeting at IETF 61.

- Ralph

                           DHC WG agenda - IETF 61
                       0900 Mon 2004-11-08 (tentative)
                      (Last revised 10/10/2004 08:05 AM)
                      ----------------------------------

Administrivia                                      Ralph Droms      10 minutes
   Agenda bashing; blue sheets; scribe; Jabber scribe
   Request for milestones for dhc WG drafts

DNS zone suffix option for DHCPv6                  Renxiang Yan     10 minutes
   <draft-yan-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-dnszone>
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

Reclassifying DHCPv4 Options                       TBD              10 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-reclassify-options>
   How to implement the process after RFC is published?

DHCP Authentication via EAP                        Mark Stapp       10 minutes
   Technical discussion

Lifetime Option for DHCPv6                         Stig Venaas      10 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime>
   Ready for WG last call?

DHCP-DNS interaction                               Bernie Volz      30 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-fqdn>
   <draft-ietf-dhc-fqdn-option>
   <draft-ietf-dhc-ddns-resolution>
   Technical discussion
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Hi Ralph and the DHCP WG,

Is the WG still interested in seeing the DHCPv6 SNTP option published 
as a Proposed Standard RFC?

The IESG reviewed draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-sntp-00.txt in February 
2004 and there were three discusses from Thomas Narten, Alex Zinin 
and Harald Alvestrand (see below).  I believe that there is a good 
understanding of how to address all three of these discusses.  We 
even had a conference call with Harald to determine how to address 
his discuss, and we agreed to specific wording.

Although I have sent several reminders to the author, the document 
has not been updated since November 2003.  I also haven't received 
any response to at least my last two queries.  So, I don't even know 
that the author is still reachable.

I'm not sure what to do in this situation.  I don't see any sign that 
there is significant WG interest in this document (at least no one 
has asked me about it), and I don't feel comfortable with having a 
document sit in this partially IESG-approved state indefinitely, 
especially through an AD transition (such as the Security AD 
transition we expect at IETF 61).

So, unless this document is updated to address (or at least attempt 
to address) the three IESG discuss comments below by the 
Internet-Draft cut-off for IETF 61 (October 25th @ 9:00am EST), I 
will return this draft to the DHC WG (by moving it to the "AD is 
Watching" state), which will cause it to expire.  Then, if the WG 
chooses to do further work in this area, it will need to be 
re-submitted to the IESG.

Please speak up if you consider this work important and want to see 
it move forward!

Margaret

IESG Discusses and Comments

Harald Alvestrand:
Discuss:
[2004-02-05] This document should specify whether or not SNTPv4 
servers can be listed in the options list.
If they can, it should specify how they are listed.
If they cannot, it should say so; it would be beneficial to have it 
explain how a client with both IPv4 and IPv6 stacks decides which 
SNTP servers to use.

Thomas Narten:
Discuss:
[2004-01-22] >    The Simple Network Time Protocol Servers option 
provides a list of
>     one or more IPv6 addresses of SNTP [3] servers available to the
>     client for synchronization. The SNTP servers SHOULD be listed in
>     the order of preference.

For interoperability, it would be better to say that clients MUST
processes the servers as if they were in priority order. Whether the
server takes advantage of that or not is an operational issue. But if
the clients aren't guaranteed to process them in order, there is
little point in the server putting them in order.

Jon Peterson:
Comment:
[2004-01-22] The end of the sentence in Section 3 might want to 
include a direct reference to the DHCPv6 spec (presumably, [1]).

Bert Wijnen:
Comment:
[2004-01-20] From OPS DIrectorate (Pekka):

nits:
  - spell out SNTP in the Abstract
  - acknowledgement section should be split to a real acknowledgement
   section, and the regular ISOC funding acknowledgement.
  - IPR statement could be added.
  - add a dot at the end of the paragraph in section 2.

Alex Zinin:
Discuss:
[2004-01-22] Section 5 should say what the receiver should do if the 
option [number] appears in a message it is not supposed to.




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Hi,

I have a question on "DHCPv4 Threat Analysis".

In section 4.2, capability of client is described as follows.
  $B!H(BClients MUST be able to authenticate servers (to prevent
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I understood this sentence didn't mean that client MUST authenticate
server whenever client uses DHCP.  Is my understanding right?


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We may want to lowercase the MUSTs in this section.

It is "MUST be able". This does not mean that they MUST do this.

We were listing the capabilities that we believe are required for any new
work in DHCPv4 security to support. If new work in this area can't provide
this capability, we likely should not consider that work until it does
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- Bernie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] 
> On Behalf Of Mayumi Yanagiya
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> 
> Hi,
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> I have a question on "DHCPv4 Threat Analysis".
> 
> In section 4.2, capability of client is described as follows.
>   "Clients MUST be able to authenticate servers (to prevent
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>     being contacted)."
> 
> I understood this sentence didn't mean that client MUST 
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> understanding right?
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Hi:

Here's some quick review comments (these are mostly nits):

- Clean up figure in 3.2?

- Is there a minimum option length? Wouldn't it be at least 3 bytes (to
specify the country code and what)? Or, is at least one "civic address
element" also needed in which case the minimum length would be 6?

- Is an IANA registry of the "what" values required? Or, do we believe =
that
the 3 values are all that will ever be needed (which is likely the =
case)?

- For clarity, section 2's text:

   As discussed in Security Considerations (Section 5), the GeoConf_Civi
   option SHOULD be returned by DHCP servers only when the DHCP client
   has included this option in its 'parameter request list' (Section 3.5
   [2]).

   The DHCP long-options mechanism described in RFC 3396 [8] MUST be
   used if the civic address option exceeds the maximum DHCP option size
   of 255 octets.

Should likely be reworked to:

   As discussed in Security Considerations (Section 5), the =
GEOCONFIG_CIVIC
   option SHOULD be returned by DHCPv4 servers only when the DHCPv4 =
client
   has included this option in its 'parameter request list' (Section 3.5
   [2]). Similarily, the OPTION_CIVIC_ADDRESS option SHOULD be returned =
by
   DHCPv6 servers only when the DHCPv6 client has included this option =
in
   its OPTION_ORO.

   The DHCPv4 long-options mechanism described in RFC 3396 [8] MUST be
   used if the civic address option exceeds the maximum DHCPv4 option =
size
   of 255 octets.

And, similar adjustments should be made to section 5.

- Also, in section 2, shouldn't the text:

   To provide multiple renderings, the client
   repeats sequences of address elements, prefixing each with 'language'
   and/or 'script' element (see Section 3.3).  The language and script

Be:

   To provide multiple renderings, the server
                                       ^^^^^^
   repeats sequences of address elements, prefixing each with 'language'
   and/or 'script' element (see Section 3.3).  The language and script

- In section 3.1, it isn't immediately clear what the countrycode is =
used
for. I presume this is used to specify the mapping for the Catype to a
textual representation?

   Countrycode: The two-letter ISO 3166 country code in capital ASCII
      letters, e.g., DE or US.

- In section 6, specify that the initial allocations are provided in =
Section
3.4 (I've found that IANA doesn't read the entire document, just the =
IANA
Considerations section so they'd need to be told about the initial =
registry
list or where to find it in the IANA Considerations section.)

- Bernie

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Breaking News At The Close Tuesday October 12th, 2004

Perfisans Networks Corporation OTCBB: PFNH

Revenues Three Months Ended June 30,2004: 696,504 USD
Revenues Six Months Ended June 30,2004: 1,032,322 USD
Source: 10-Q August 16, 2004


How will the Stock React  Tomorrow  to  Today's  News?  A  Large  PR
Campaign  Apprising  Potential  Investors  of  This  Development  is
Underway  Starting Tuesday Evening. This announcement Will Hopefully
be Seen By Thousands  and  Thousands  of Potential Investors Tuesday
Evening and Into Wednesday. If you think PFNH is a mover   and  goes
higher, you may not want to wait until it's too late as Timing is So
Important.


Press Release Source: Perfisans Networks Corporation

1,000,000 USD Deal Validates  Marketplace  Viability  of  Perfisans'
Revolutionary Network Speed-Boosting Chip Technology

LOS  ANGELES BUSINESS WIRE Oct.  12, 2004. Perfisans Networks Corp.,
OTCBB:PFNH, a next-generation semiconductor  designer focused on the
burgeoning Gigabit Ethernet market, has announced the first  booking
for  its proprietary network accelerator chips, marking the patented
technology's  successful  progress  from  the  design-table  to  the
real-world marketplace.

Under  the  agreement,  Perfisans  will  supply  its ENA1001 gigabit
network acceleration chip to  DBL  Technology Co. Ltd. The agreement
calls for more than  1.1 million  in  sales  over  a  period  of  12
months.  DBL  is  a  maker  of  Voice-Over-Internet  Protocol (VoIP)
communications  equipment,  based  in  Shenzhen,  China,  and  is  a
significant original equipment  manufacturer  (OEM) for the enormous
Taiwan and China communication markets.

DBL will integrate the ENA1001 gigabit network chip into several  of
its   product   designs.   With  Perfisans'  TOE  technology,  solid
performance and  favorable  pricing  and technical-support policies,
DBL   officials   believe  they   can  significantly   raise   their
product's price/performance ratio and allow them to outperform their
competitors.

"Our  relationship  with  DBL  is  a major milestone in entering the
Chinese networking equipment market, and  a major endorsement of the
technology we developed," said To Hon  Lam,  President  and  CEO  of
Perfisans. "As one of the major suppliers of VoIP equipment, DBL has
substantial expertise and business relationships in place with major
OEMs  and  telecommunication operators. By integrating the Perfisans
network-acceleration  chipsets  into   their  communication  network
products,  DBL  can  provide a cost-effective  yet  high-performance
solution to their customers."

DBL, a provider of VoIP products to system integrators in Taiwan and
China, also required the Perfisans products to adhere to the highest
levels of standards and protocols, to retain its select approval  by
the exacting Chinese Ministry of Information Industry.

Voice  over  IP,  which  enables  telephone  communication  via  the
Internet,   is   one   of   the   fastest-growing   areas   of   the
telecommunications market, and is expected to eventually replace the
traditional  telephone  system, as major telecommunication companies
continue to move to VoIP systems. Perfisans' chips can significantly
improve and simplify the design of VOIP products, in addition to its
role  in  boosting  the  performance  of  Ethernet  data-networks in
business and home computer systems.


About DBL Technology Co. Ltd.

DBL Technology Co. is a major  communication  equipment  company  of
Voice  over  Internet  Protocol (VoIP) for the worldwide market. DBL
designs VoIP Gateways, IP Phone, Gatekeeper, Relay Servers, and high
performance AAA Billing  servers.  The  company  is based in Shenzen
Province, China.


About Perfisans Holdings, Inc.

Founded in 2001, Perfisans Holdings, Inc. is an emerging ASIC design
house  focused   on   developing   leading   edge,   cost-effective,
system-on-chip   (SOC)   integrated  circuits  (IC)  and  delivering
innovative solutions  that  address  the  performance  needs of next
generation network systems. Rapidly  being  recognized  by  industry
leaders for its innovative network interface products, the Company's
technologies    have   applications   in   telecommunication,   data
communication,   storage   networks,   content   delivery  networks,
broadband networks, and rich streaming media.

Perfisans'  chip  technology  is  fully   standards-compliant,   and
provides  high-efficiency, high-quality network connections for both
business  and  home   applications.   The   Perfisans'  ENA1001  can
efficiently process protocols such as IP and TCP, and its high-speed
protocol-processing capabilities -- 10  times  faster  than  typical
100M-bit  networks  --  can  vastly  improve  the  efficiency of the
network.  The  ENA1001  network  interface  chip  employs Perfisans'
proprietary TCP offload engine  (TOE),  providing  highly  efficient
network  throughput,  to enable high-performance networks for a wide
range of applications.  Cautionary Statement

This press release  contains  statements  relating to future results
of Perfisans, including certain  projections  and  business  trends,
that  are  future  looking  statements  as  defined  in  the Private
Securities Litigation Reform Act of  1995. Actual results may differ
materially from those projected as a result  of  certain  risks  and
uncertainties.   These  risks and uncertainties include, but are not
limited to: the cyclical  nature  of  the semiconductor industry and
the markets addressed by the company's and its  customers  products;
demand  for  and  market  acceptance  of  new and existing products;
successful development of new  products;  the  timing of new product
introductions; changes in product  mix;  product  obsolescence;  the
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uncertainties of  litigation;  our  ability  to  attract  and retain
qualified personnel; as  well  as  other  risks  and  uncertainties,
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Hi Berinie,

Thank you for your reply.
I understood the meaning.

The reason why I asked such question is=85
I think that broadcast messages are isolated per subscriber in many=20
public access services. Thus, it is difficult for another subscriber to=20
impersonate DHCP server, and it is easy to impersonate DHCP client.
So, I personally think that client authentication by server is more=20
important.

Best Regards,
--Mayumi

 > We may want to lowercase the MUSTs in this section.
 >
 > It is "MUST be able". This does not mean that they MUST do this.
 >
 > We were listing the capabilities that we believe are required for any =
new
 > work in DHCPv4 security to support. If new work in this area can't=20
provide
 > this capability, we likely should not consider that work until it does
 > provide this support.
 >
 > - Bernie
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 >
 >>-----Original Message-----
 >>From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org]
 >>On Behalf Of Mayumi Yanagiya
 >>Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 5:14 AM
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 >>Subject: [dhcwg] [Q] Threat analysis
 >>
 >>
 >>Hi,
 >>
 >>I have a question on "DHCPv4 Threat Analysis".
 >>
 >>In section 4.2, capability of client is described as follows.
 >>  "Clients MUST be able to authenticate servers (to prevent
 >>    misconfigured clients and assure that the correct servers are
 >>    being contacted)."
 >>
 >>I understood this sentence didn't mean that client MUST
 >>authenticate server whenever client uses DHCP.  Is my
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    0                   1                   2                   3
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |      OPTION_CIVIC_ADDRESS     |         option-len            |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |         Countrycode           |   what        |  elements    ...
   |                     civic address elements                    |
   |                              ...                              |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

Would usually be shown as:

    0                   1                   2                   3
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |      OPTION_CIVIC_ADDRESS     |         option-len            |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |         Countrycode           |   what        |               .
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+               .
   .                     civic address elements                    .
   .                              ...                              .
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

(At least if we use RFC 3315 and 3633 as a guide.)

But, it's no big deal.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henning Schulzrinne [mailto:hgs@cs.columbia.edu] 
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:01 PM
> To: Bernie Volz
> Cc: hgs+simple@cs.columbia.edu; dhcwg@ietf.org; geopriv@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [dhcwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-civil-04.txt
> 
> 
> Bernie Volz wrote:
> > Hi:
> > 
> > Here's some quick review comments (these are mostly nits):
> > 
> > - Clean up figure in 3.2?
> 
> Can you clarify? I must be missing something obvious as to 
> the defects 
> of the figure...
> 
> > 
> > - Is there a minimum option length? Wouldn't it be at least 3 bytes 
> > (to specify the country code and what)? Or, is at least one "civic 
> > address element" also needed in which case the minimum 
> length would be 
> > 6?
> 
> All elements are optional, so min. length would be 3 (just 
> country code 
> + what).
> 
> > 
> > - Is an IANA registry of the "what" values required? Or, do 
> we believe 
> > that the 3 values are all that will ever be needed (which is likely 
> > the case)?
> 
> I suspect that additional values are sufficiently unlikely 
> that we can 
> rely on a revised version of the document for extending the 
> registry. I 
> don't feel strongly about this; there used to be a time, 
> maybe now past, 
> where adding IANA registries was considered ill-advised.
> 
> > 
> > - For clarity, section 2's text:
> 
> ...
> 
> Fixed.
> 
> > 
> > And, similar adjustments should be made to section 5.
> 
> Fixed.
> 
> > 
> > - Also, in section 2, shouldn't the text:
> 
> >    To provide multiple renderings, the server
> >                                        ^^^^^^
> >    repeats sequences of address elements, prefixing each 
> with 'language'
> >    and/or 'script' element (see Section 3.3).  The language 
> and script
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> 
> > 
> > - In section 3.1, it isn't immediately clear what the 
> countrycode is 
> > used for. I presume this is used to specify the mapping for 
> the Catype 
> > to a textual representation?
> > 
> >    Countrycode: The two-letter ISO 3166 country code in 
> capital ASCII
> >       letters, e.g., DE or US.
> 
> 
> Not really. This is just for space efficiency, since every 
> civic address 
> must contain a country code and since its length is fixed. 
> There is no 
> assumed mapping from country to language or script. I added a 
> parenthesized explanation.
> 
> > 
> > - In section 6, specify that the initial allocations are 
> provided in 
> > Section 3.4 (I've found that IANA doesn't read the entire document, 
> > just the IANA Considerations section so they'd need to be 
> told about 
> > the initial registry list or where to find it in the IANA 
> > Considerations section.)
> >
> 
> Reference added.
> 
> Thanks for your comments!
> 
> Henning
> 


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Bernie Volz wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> Here's some quick review comments (these are mostly nits):
> 
> - Clean up figure in 3.2?

Can you clarify? I must be missing something obvious as to the defects 
of the figure...

> 
> - Is there a minimum option length? Wouldn't it be at least 3 bytes (to
> specify the country code and what)? Or, is at least one "civic address
> element" also needed in which case the minimum length would be 6?

All elements are optional, so min. length would be 3 (just country code 
+ what).

> 
> - Is an IANA registry of the "what" values required? Or, do we believe that
> the 3 values are all that will ever be needed (which is likely the case)?

I suspect that additional values are sufficiently unlikely that we can 
rely on a revised version of the document for extending the registry. I 
don't feel strongly about this; there used to be a time, maybe now past, 
where adding IANA registries was considered ill-advised.

> 
> - For clarity, section 2's text:

...

Fixed.

> 
> And, similar adjustments should be made to section 5.

Fixed.

> 
> - Also, in section 2, shouldn't the text:

>    To provide multiple renderings, the server
>                                        ^^^^^^
>    repeats sequences of address elements, prefixing each with 'language'
>    and/or 'script' element (see Section 3.3).  The language and script

Indeed.


> 
> - In section 3.1, it isn't immediately clear what the countrycode is used
> for. I presume this is used to specify the mapping for the Catype to a
> textual representation?
> 
>    Countrycode: The two-letter ISO 3166 country code in capital ASCII
>       letters, e.g., DE or US.


Not really. This is just for space efficiency, since every civic address 
must contain a country code and since its length is fixed. There is no 
assumed mapping from country to language or script. I added a 
parenthesized explanation.

> 
> - In section 6, specify that the initial allocations are provided in Section
> 3.4 (I've found that IANA doesn't read the entire document, just the IANA
> Considerations section so they'd need to be told about the initial registry
> list or where to find it in the IANA Considerations section.)
>

Reference added.

Thanks for your comments!

Henning

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To raise the awareness of this work, I am posting it using below
link and submitted draft will appear soon.

http://daniel.vsix.net/daniel/draft-madanapalli-dhcpv6-anycast-00.txt

This protocol is useful to let client you service unique
identifiers with anycast address, so that client will use
a stable and reliable service. If one of the servers fails, 
other servers can still provide service because packets
with the anycast address are routed to another nearest
server.


Comments are highly welcome


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Hello all,

I've submitted a new Internet-Draft to distribute source address
selection policies via DHCPv6.

     draft-hirotaka-dhc-source-address-selection-opt-00.txt

There are two other related I-Ds, one is a brief overview of our
proposed model.

http://www.nttv6.net/~arifumi/draft-arifumi-multi6-sas-policy-dist 
-00.txt

And the other is a new option proposal for Neighbor Discovery Router
Advertisement Message.

http://www.nttv6.net/~arifumi/draft-arifumi-ipv6-nd-source-address-
selection-opt-00.txt

# Later two drafts will be on IETF server soon, I hope..

Please give me questions and comments.

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Here is the latest draft agenda for the dhc WG meeting at IETF 61.

- Ralph

                           DHC WG agenda - IETF 61
                       0900 Mon 2004-11-08 (tentative)
                      (Last revised 10/19/2004 06:56 AM)
                      ----------------------------------

Administrivia                                      Ralph Droms      10 minutes
   Agenda bashing; blue sheets; scribe; Jabber scribe
   Request for milestones for dhc WG drafts

DNS zone suffix option for DHCPv6                  Renxiang Yan     10 minutes
   <draft-yan-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-dnszone>
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

Reclassifying DHCPv4 Options                       TBD              10 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-reclassify-options>
   How to implement the process after RFC is published?

Vendor-Specific Information Suboption              Mark Stapp       10 minutes
   <draft-stapp-dhc-vendor-suboption>
   Ready for WG last call?

DHCP Authentication via EAP                        Mark Stapp       10 minutes
   Technical discussion

Lifetime Option for DHCPv6                         Stig Venaas      10 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime>
   Ready for WG last call?

Anycast Address Assignment using DHCPv6            Syam Madanapalli 10 minutes
   <draft-syam-dhc-ia-aa-opt>
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

Source Address Selection Policy option for DHCPv6  Arifumi Matsumoto 10 minutes
   <draft-hirotaka-dhc-source-address-selection-opt>
   (available as 
http://www.nttv6.net/~arifumi/draft-hirotaka-dhc-source-address-selection-opt-00.txt)
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

DHCP-DNS interaction                               Bernie Volz      30 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-fqdn>
   <draft-ietf-dhc-fqdn-option>
   <draft-ietf-dhc-ddns-resolution>
   Technical discussion
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We need to have a short WG conversation about two options that were
discussed at the WG meeting in San Diego.  The outcome of the
conversation will be to determine consensus about taking on these two
drafts:

draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv4-option-01.txt
draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt

as dhc WG work items or recommending that 3GPP2 define
vendor-identifying vendor-specific option (VIVSO; option code 125)
sub-options to carry the information described in the drafts.

If the WG consensus is to take on the drafts as WG work items drafts,
are they acceptable as currently published?

Because of the time constraints imposed by the 3GPP2 schedule, I'm
going to cut off discussion on this topic next Thursday, 10/28, and
determine WG consensus at that time.

Here are some considerations for discussion:

3GPP2 has defined some vendor-specific sub-options, for example, to
identify a MIP home agent for the DHCP client.

A 3GPP2 client needs to specify to the DHCP server which parameters it
needs - specifically, whether it needs to receive the BCMCS servers.
If the current drafts are adopted, the client can simply use the
parameter request list option (option code 55) for the request.  If a
VIVSO sub-option is used, 3GPP2 would also define a parameter request
list sub-option.

There is a deployment issue, as some service providers already have
DHCP servers in place that must be updated for any new options.  Is it
the case that the options defined in the current drafts can be
supported without code changes to existing servers?  Use of a VIVSO
sub-option would require code changes to existing servers.  How long
would it take to deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO.

BCMCS may be adopted across multiple technologies, so the options in
the current drafts would not be specific to 3GPP2.  However, the BCMCS
specification has not adopted by other standards, yet, so we may need
to define additional options for related services in the future if
those services are not interoperable with the 3GPP2 BCMCS service.

CableLabs has one option with sub-options (RFC 3495) rather than
multiple options because:
* wanted to avoid exhaustion of DHCP option code space; perhaps less
   of an issue with option code reclassification
* would have used VIVSO if available
* use of VIVSO with sub-options would give 3GPP2 freedom to define new
   sub-options on demand
Do these considerations have an impact on our decision about how to
proceed with the 3GPP2 options?

- Ralph


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Personally, I'd like to see the DHCPv4 VIVSO get deployed and pushing =
these
options to using it would be a step at making this happen (as one would
expect 3GPP2 vendors to have some significant input to the decisions of =
DHCP
server vendors).

It also means that 3GPP2 is free to define other VIVSO options in the =
future
within their own forum and need not go to the IETF (and DHC WG). I =
suspect
that this would provide much faster deployment for them in the future.

Also, the DHCPv6 OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS are already
there for DHCPv6.

BTW, 3GPP2 already has an enterprise-id number:

5535
  3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 (3GPP2)
    Allen Long
      along@cisco.com

So, they'd be good to go!

- Bernie

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> Subject: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>=20
>=20
> We need to have a short WG conversation about two options=20
> that were discussed at the WG meeting in San Diego.  The=20
> outcome of the conversation will be to determine consensus=20
> about taking on these two
> drafts:
>=20
> draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv4-option-01.txt
> draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt
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> as dhc WG work items or recommending that 3GPP2 define=20
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>=20
> If the WG consensus is to take on the drafts as WG work items=20
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> Because of the time constraints imposed by the 3GPP2=20
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> Here are some considerations for discussion:
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> 3GPP2 has defined some vendor-specific sub-options, for=20
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> A 3GPP2 client needs to specify to the DHCP server which=20
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> There is a deployment issue, as some service providers=20
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> BCMCS may be adopted across multiple technologies, so the=20
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Dear all,

We have submitted a new draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and RADIUS 
Attributes sub-option last week. It's already available from the ietf site

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt

but I have not seen the official announcement so far.

The draft basically carries over similar capabilities, namely,
RFC 3046 and draft-ietf-dhc-agentopt-radius-08.txt
from DHCPv4 to DHCPv6,  with initial use cases targetting for
the 3GPP2 environment.

Comments are welcome.

Regards,

Wing

Abstract

    This document introduces the capabilities of the DHCPv4 Relay Agent
    Information Option in RFC 3046 and the corresponding RADIUS-
    Attributes Sub-option to DHCPv6. In particular, the document
    describes a new DHCPv6 option called the Relay Agent Information
    option which extends the set of DHCPv6 options as defined in RFC 3315
    and 3376. Following its DHCPv4 counterpart as defined in RFC 3046,
    the new option is inserted by the DHCPv6 relay agent when forwarding
    client-originated DHCPv6 packets to a DHCPv6 server. Servers
    recognizing the Relay Agent Information option may use the
    information to implement IP address or other parameter assignment
    policies.  The DHCP Server echoes the option back verbatim to the
    relay agent in server-to-client replies, and the relay agent strips
    the option before forwarding the reply to the client. The Relay Agent
    Information option is organized as a single DHCPv6 option that
    contains one or more "sub-options" that convey information known by
    the relay agent.  A RADIUS Attributes Sub-option, following its
    DHCPv4 counterpart, is also defined.   
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Dear all,<br><br>
We have submitted a new draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and
RADIUS Attributes sub-option last week. It's already available from the
ietf site <br><br>
<a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt" eudora="autourl">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt</a><br><br>
but I have not seen the official announcement so far.<br><br>
The draft basically carries over similar capabilities, namely, <br>
RFC 3046 and
<font face="Courier New, Courier">draft-ietf-dhc-agentopt-radius-08.txt<br>
</font>from DHCPv4 to DHCPv6, <font face="Courier New, Courier">
</font>with initial use cases targetting for <br>
the 3GPP2 environment.<br><br>
Comments are welcome.<br><br>
Regards,<br><br>
Wing<br><br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier">Abstract <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; This document introduces the capabilities of the DHCPv4
Relay Agent <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Information Option in RFC 3046 and the corresponding
RADIUS-<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Attributes Sub-option to DHCPv6. In particular, the document
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; describes a new DHCPv6 option called the Relay Agent
Information <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; option which extends the set of DHCPv6 options as defined in
RFC 3315 <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; and 3376. Following its DHCPv4 counterpart as defined in RFC
3046, <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; the new option is inserted by the DHCPv6 relay agent when
forwarding <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; client-originated DHCPv6 packets to a DHCPv6 server. Servers
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; recognizing the Relay Agent Information option may use the
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; information to implement IP address or other parameter
assignment <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; policies.&nbsp; The DHCP Server echoes the option back
verbatim to the <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; relay agent in server-to-client replies, and the relay agent
strips <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; the option before forwarding the reply to the client. The
Relay Agent <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Information option is organized as a single DHCPv6 option
that <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; contains one or more &quot;sub-options&quot; that convey
information known by <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; the relay agent.&nbsp; A RADIUS Attributes Sub-option,
following its <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; DHCPv4 counterpart, is also defined.&nbsp; </font></body>
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        RFC 3925

        Title:      Vendor-Identifying Vendor Options for
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                    (DHCPv4)
        Author(s):  J. Littlefield
        Status:     Standards Track
        Date:       October 2004
        Mailbox:    joshl@cisco.com
        Pages:      9
        Characters: 17999
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        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.txt

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The Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) options for Vendor
Class and Vendor-Specific Information can be limiting or ambiguous
when a DHCP client represents multiple vendors.  This document defines
two new options, modeled on the IPv6 options for vendor class and
vendor-specific information, that contain Enterprise Numbers to
remove ambiguity.

This document is a product of the Dynamic Host Configuration Working
Group of the IETF.

This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol.

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A very basic question ... why have a Relay Agent Information option and =
have
sub-options inside this? And, especially 8-bit suboptions.
=20
It seems to me that with the larger 16-bit DHCPv6 option space, we'd =
just
define an option to carry the "Radius Attributes" instead of placing =
this
under a general "Relay Agent" option. The context of the message is =
pretty
clear -- if it is from the relay, it can only be in a Relay-Forw (and
Relay-Reply) message option area.
=20
There's also another advantage to this. Take the DHCPv4 subnet-selection
option - there are two forms of this, one in for the relay agent and =
another
for the client. This won't be necessary in DHCPv6 as the LOCATION of the
message (either in the Client's Solicit, Request, ... or in a
Relay-Forw/Relay-Reply) tells us who added it and which we'd prefer to =
use.
This means only ONE option number is needed.
=20
So, I'd much rather see this specify a base option,
OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES, and have this contain the Radius attributes in =
the
standard Radius encoding. So, it is just 16-bit option code, 16-bit =
length,
followed by the radius encoding (as 8-bit suboptions).
=20
You can then specify that OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES can only appear in =
the
Relay-Forw (and Relay-Reply) message and MUST NOT appear in client =
messages
themselves.
=20
- Bernie

-----Original Message-----
From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf =
Of
Wing Cheong Lau
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:45 PM
To: dhcwg@ietf.org
Subject: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and RADIUS
Attributes sub-option


Dear all,

We have submitted a new draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and =
RADIUS
Attributes sub-option last week. It's already available from the ietf =
site=20

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt

but I have not seen the official announcement so far.

The draft basically carries over similar capabilities, namely,=20
RFC 3046 and draft-ietf-dhc-agentopt-radius-08.txt
from DHCPv4 to DHCPv6, with initial use cases targetting for=20
the 3GPP2 environment.

Comments are welcome.

Regards,

Wing

Abstract=20
   =20
   This document introduces the capabilities of the DHCPv4 Relay Agent=20
   Information Option in RFC 3046 and the corresponding RADIUS-
   Attributes Sub-option to DHCPv6. In particular, the document=20
   describes a new DHCPv6 option called the Relay Agent Information=20
   option which extends the set of DHCPv6 options as defined in RFC 3315 =

   and 3376. Following its DHCPv4 counterpart as defined in RFC 3046,=20
   the new option is inserted by the DHCPv6 relay agent when forwarding=20
   client-originated DHCPv6 packets to a DHCPv6 server. Servers=20
   recognizing the Relay Agent Information option may use the=20
   information to implement IP address or other parameter assignment=20
   policies.  The DHCP Server echoes the option back verbatim to the=20
   relay agent in server-to-client replies, and the relay agent strips=20
   the option before forwarding the reply to the client. The Relay Agent =

   Information option is organized as a single DHCPv6 option that=20
   contains one or more "sub-options" that convey information known by=20
   the relay agent.  A RADIUS Attributes Sub-option, following its=20
   DHCPv4 counterpart, is also defined. =20


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class=3D194173221-22102004>A very=20
basic question ... why have a Relay Agent Information option=20
and&nbsp;have&nbsp;sub-options inside this? And, especially 8-bit=20
suboptions.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D194173221-22102004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D194173221-22102004>It=20
seems to me that with the larger 16-bit&nbsp;DHCPv6 option space, we'd =
just=20
define an option to carry the "Radius Attributes" instead of placing =
this under=20
a general "Relay Agent" option. The context of the message is pretty =
clear -- if=20
it is from the relay, it can only be in a Relay-Forw (and Relay-Reply) =
message=20
option area.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D194173221-22102004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D194173221-22102004>There's also another advantage to this. Take =
the DHCPv4=20
subnet-selection option - there are two forms of this, one in for the =
relay=20
agent and another for the client. This won't be necessary in DHCPv6 as =
the=20
LOCATION of the message (either in the Client's Solicit, Request, ... or =
in a=20
Relay-Forw/Relay-Reply) tells us who added it and which we'd prefer to =
use. This=20
means only ONE option number is needed.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D194173221-22102004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D194173221-22102004>So,=20
I'd much rather see this specify a base option, =
OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES, and=20
have this contain the Radius attributes in the standard Radius encoding. =
So, it=20
is just 16-bit option code, 16-bit length, followed by the radius =
encoding (as=20
8-bit suboptions).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D194173221-22102004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D194173221-22102004>You=20
can then specify that OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES can only appear in the =
Relay-Forw=20
(and Relay-Reply) message and MUST NOT appear in client messages=20
themselves.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D194173221-22102004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D194173221-22102004>-=20
Bernie</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] <B>On Behalf Of =

  </B>Wing Cheong Lau<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 22, 2004 12:45=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> dhcwg@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [dhcwg] New draft =
on DHCPv6=20
  Relay Information Option and RADIUS Attributes=20
  sub-option<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Dear all,<BR><BR>We have submitted a =
new draft=20
  on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and RADIUS Attributes sub-option =
last week.=20
  It's already available from the ietf site <BR><BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-0=
0.txt"=20
  =
eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6=
-relayopt-00.txt</A><BR><BR>but=20
  I have not seen the official announcement so far.<BR><BR>The draft =
basically=20
  carries over similar capabilities, namely, <BR>RFC 3046 and <FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New, =
Courier">draft-ietf-dhc-agentopt-radius-08.txt<BR></FONT>from=20
  DHCPv4 to DHCPv6, <FONT face=3D"Courier New, Courier"></FONT>with =
initial use=20
  cases targetting for <BR>the 3GPP2 environment.<BR><BR>Comments are=20
  welcome.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Wing<BR><BR><FONT=20
  face=3D"Courier New, Courier">Abstract <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  This document introduces the capabilities of the DHCPv4 Relay Agent=20
  <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Information Option in RFC 3046 and the corresponding=20
  RADIUS-<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Attributes Sub-option to DHCPv6. In =
particular, the=20
  document <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; describes a new DHCPv6 option called the =
Relay Agent=20
  Information <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; option which extends the set of DHCPv6 =
options as=20
  defined in RFC 3315 <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; and 3376. Following its DHCPv4=20
  counterpart as defined in RFC 3046, <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; the new option is =

  inserted by the DHCPv6 relay agent when forwarding <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  client-originated DHCPv6 packets to a DHCPv6 server. Servers =
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  recognizing the Relay Agent Information option may use the =
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  information to implement IP address or other parameter assignment=20
  <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; policies.&nbsp; The DHCP Server echoes the option =
back=20
  verbatim to the <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; relay agent in server-to-client =
replies, and=20
  the relay agent strips <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; the option before forwarding =
the reply=20
  to the client. The Relay Agent <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Information option is=20
  organized as a single DHCPv6 option that <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; contains one =
or more=20
  "sub-options" that convey information known by <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; the =
relay=20
  agent.&nbsp; A RADIUS Attributes Sub-option, following its =
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  DHCPv4 counterpart, is also defined.&nbsp; =
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Er, furthermore there's already a relay encapsulation method defined in 
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Ted:

Not sure what you're referring to.

A relay would normally take a client message and place it into a =
Relay-Forw
with a Relay Message option containing the client's message. It can also =
add
any other options that it wants (and are allowed). In the base spec, =
this
might include an Interface-ID option, for example. And, why I suggested =
was
that this new I-D just define a "Radius Attribute" option which the =
Relay
Agent would add into the Relay-Forw message.

- Bernie

> -----Original Message-----
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On Oct 22, 2004, at 8:05 PM, Bernie Volz wrote:
> A relay would normally take a client message and place it into a 
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> 	Title		: Anycast Address Assignment using DHCPv6
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Dear Bernie and Ted,

Thanks for your suggestion. My response is interlaced below.

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>Subject: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and 
>RADIUS Attributes sub-option
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>A very basic question ... why have a Relay Agent Information option and 
>have sub-options inside this? And, especially 8-bit suboptions.
>
>It seems to me that with the larger 16-bit DHCPv6 option space, we'd just 
>define an option to carry the "Radius Attributes" instead of placing this 
>under a general "Relay Agent" option. The context of the message is pretty 
>clear -- if it is from the relay, it can only be in a Relay-Forw (and 
>Relay-Reply) message option area.
>
>There's also another advantage to this. Take the DHCPv4 subnet-selection 
>option - there are two forms of this, one in for the relay agent and 
>another for the client. This won't be necessary in DHCPv6 as the LOCATION 
>of the message (either in the Client's Solicit, Request, ... or in a 
>Relay-Forw/Relay-Reply) tells us who added it and which we'd prefer to 
>use. This means only ONE option number is needed.
>
>So, I'd much rather see this specify a base option, 
>OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES, and have this contain the Radius attributes in 
>the standard Radius encoding. So, it is just 16-bit option code, 16-bit 
>length, followed by the radius encoding (as 8-bit suboptions).
>
>
>You can then specify that OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES can only appear in the 
>Relay-Forw (and Relay-Reply) message and MUST NOT appear in client 
>messages themselves.
>
>- Bernie

The original intent of specifying the sub-option was to try to simplify the 
definition of other sub-options in the future,
e.g. the DHCPv6 version of draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt and to
save a byte of so if the relay needs to include multiple sub-options at the 
same time.
On 2nd thought, this "uncommon case"  may not worth the complexity.

Your suggestion looks cleaner.
Also, the use of 16-bit instead of 8-bit length field can  eliminate the
255-byte length limit of RADIUS attributes to be included.
I will make it a single-level option according your suggestion in the next 
revision.


About the naming of the option, how about  "OPTION-RELAYED-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES"
instead of "OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES" ? This  is to highlight the nature of 
this option,
i.e.  being inserted by the Relay Agent.


Thanks again.

Regards,

Wing



>-----Original Message-----
>From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of 
>Wing Cheong Lau
>Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:45 PM
>To: dhcwg@ietf.org
>Subject: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and RADIUS 
>Attributes sub-option
>
>Dear all,
>
>We have submitted a new draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and 
>RADIUS Attributes sub-option last week. It's already available from the 
>ietf site
>
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt
>
>but I have not seen the official announcement so far.
>
>The draft basically carries over similar capabilities, namely,
>RFC 3046 and draft-ietf-dhc-agentopt-radius-08.txt
>from DHCPv4 to DHCPv6, with initial use cases targetting for
>the 3GPP2 environment.
>
>Comments are welcome.
>
>Regards,
>
>Wing
>
>Abstract
>
>    This document introduces the capabilities of the DHCPv4 Relay Agent
>    Information Option in RFC 3046 and the corresponding RADIUS-
>    Attributes Sub-option to DHCPv6. In particular, the document
>    describes a new DHCPv6 option called the Relay Agent Information
>    option which extends the set of DHCPv6 options as defined in RFC 3315
>    and 3376. Following its DHCPv4 counterpart as defined in RFC 3046,
>    the new option is inserted by the DHCPv6 relay agent when forwarding
>    client-originated DHCPv6 packets to a DHCPv6 server. Servers
>    recognizing the Relay Agent Information option may use the
>    information to implement IP address or other parameter assignment
>    policies.  The DHCP Server echoes the option back verbatim to the
>    relay agent in server-to-client replies, and the relay agent strips
>    the option before forwarding the reply to the client. The Relay Agent
>    Information option is organized as a single DHCPv6 option that
>    contains one or more "sub-options" that convey information known by
>    the relay agent.  A RADIUS Attributes Sub-option, following its
>    DHCPv4 counterpart, is also defined.

 >Ted:
 >
 >Not sure what you're referring to.
 >
 >A relay would normally take a client message and place it into a Relay-Forw
 >with a Relay Message option containing the client's message. It can also add
 >any other options that it wants (and are allowed). In the base spec, this
 >might include an Interface-ID option, for example. And, why I suggested was
 >that this new I-D just define a "Radius Attribute" option which the Relay
 >Agent would add into the Relay-Forw message.

 >- Bernie

 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Ted Lemon [mailto:mellon@nominum.com]
 > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:18 PM
 > To: Bernie Volz
 > Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org; 'Ralph Droms'; 'Wing Cheong Lau'
 > Subject: Re: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information
 > Option and RADIUS Attributes sub-option
 >
 >
 > Er, furthermore there's already a relay encapsulation method
 > defined in
 > the base DHCPv6 specification.
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Dear Bernie and Ted,<br><br>
Thanks for your suggestion. My response is interlaced below.<br><br>
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Cc: &quot;'Ralph Droms'&quot; &lt;rdroms@cisco.com&gt;<br>
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and
RADIUS Attributes sub-option<br>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:41:17 -0400<br>
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<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">A very basic question ... why
have a Relay Agent Information option and have sub-options inside this?
And, especially 8-bit suboptions.<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">It seems to me that with the
larger 16-bit DHCPv6 option space, we'd just define an option to carry
the &quot;Radius Attributes&quot; instead of placing this under a general
&quot;Relay Agent&quot; option. The context of the message is pretty
clear -- if it is from the relay, it can only be in a Relay-Forw (and
Relay-Reply) message option area.<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">There's also another advantage
to this. Take the DHCPv4 subnet-selection option - there are two forms of
this, one in for the relay agent and another for the client. This won't
be necessary in DHCPv6 as the LOCATION of the message (either in the
Client's Solicit, Request, ... or in a Relay-Forw/Relay-Reply) tells us
who added it and which we'd prefer to use. This means only ONE option
number is needed.<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">So, I'd much rather see this
specify a base option, OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES, and have this contain
the Radius attributes in the standard Radius encoding. So, it is just
16-bit option code, 16-bit length, followed by the radius encoding (as
8-bit suboptions).<br>
</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">You can then specify that
OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES can only appear in the Relay-Forw (and
Relay-Reply) message and MUST NOT appear in client messages
themselves.<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">- Bernie<br>
</font>
<dl><font face="tahoma" size=2></font></blockquote>
</dl><br>
The original intent of specifying the sub-option was to try to simplify
the definition of other sub-options in the future, <br>
e.g. the DHCPv6 version of draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt and
to<br>
save a byte of so if the relay needs to include multiple sub-options at
the same time.&nbsp; <br>
On 2nd thought, this &quot;uncommon case&quot;&nbsp; may not worth the
complexity. <br><br>
Your suggestion looks cleaner. <br>
Also, the use of 16-bit instead of 8-bit length field can&nbsp; eliminate
the<br>
255-byte length limit of RADIUS attributes to be included.<br>
I will make it a single-level option according your suggestion in the
next revision.<br><br>
<br>
About the naming of the option, how about&nbsp;
&quot;OPTION-RELAYED-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES&quot;<br>
instead of &quot;OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES&quot; ? This&nbsp; is to
highlight the nature of this option,<br>
i.e.&nbsp; being inserted by the Relay Agent.<br><br>
<br>
Thanks again.<br><br>
Regards,<br><br>
Wing<br><br>
<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>
<dl>
<dd><font face="tahoma" size=2>-----Original Message-----<br>

<dd>From:</b> dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org
[<a href="mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org" eudora="autourl">mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
On Behalf Of </b>Wing Cheong Lau<br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Friday, October 22, 2004 12:45 PM<br>

<dd>To:</b> dhcwg@ietf.org<br>

<dd>Subject:</b> [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and
RADIUS Attributes sub-option<br><br>
</font>
<dd>Dear all,<br><br>

<dd>We have submitted a new draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and
RADIUS Attributes sub-option last week. It's already available from the
ietf site <br><br>

<dd><a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt" eudora="autourl">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt</a><br><br>

<dd>but I have not seen the official announcement so far.<br><br>

<dd>The draft basically carries over similar capabilities, namely, <br>

<dd>RFC 3046 and
<font face="Courier New, Courier">draft-ietf-dhc-agentopt-radius-08.txt<br>
</font>
<dd>from DHCPv4 to DHCPv6, with initial use cases targetting for <br>

<dd>the 3GPP2 environment.<br><br>

<dd>Comments are welcome.<br><br>

<dd>Regards,<br><br>

<dd>Wing<br><br>

<dd><font face="Courier New, Courier">Abstract <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; This document introduces the capabilities of the DHCPv4
Relay Agent <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; Information Option in RFC 3046 and the corresponding
RADIUS-<br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; Attributes Sub-option to DHCPv6. In particular, the
document <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; describes a new DHCPv6 option called the Relay Agent
Information <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; option which extends the set of DHCPv6 options as
defined in RFC 3315 <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; and 3376. Following its DHCPv4 counterpart as defined in
RFC 3046, <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; the new option is inserted by the DHCPv6 relay agent
when forwarding <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; client-originated DHCPv6 packets to a DHCPv6 server.
Servers <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; recognizing the Relay Agent Information option may use
the <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; information to implement IP address or other parameter
assignment <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; policies.&nbsp; The DHCP Server echoes the option back
verbatim to the <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; relay agent in server-to-client replies, and the relay
agent strips <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; the option before forwarding the reply to the client.
The Relay Agent <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; Information option is organized as a single DHCPv6
option that <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; contains one or more &quot;sub-options&quot; that convey
information known by <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; the relay agent.&nbsp; A RADIUS Attributes Sub-option,
following its <br>

<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; DHCPv4 counterpart, is also defined.&nbsp; </font><br>
</blockquote>
</dl><br>
&gt;Ted:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Not sure what you're referring to.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;A relay would normally take a client message and place it into a
Relay-Forw<br>
&gt;with a Relay Message option containing the client's message. It can
also add<br>
&gt;any other options that it wants (and are allowed). In the base spec,
this<br>
&gt;might include an Interface-ID option, for example. And, why I
suggested was<br>
&gt;that this new I-D just define a &quot;Radius Attribute&quot; option
which the Relay<br>
&gt;Agent would add into the Relay-Forw message.<br><br>
&gt;- Bernie<br><br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Ted Lemon
[<a href="mailto:mellon@nominum.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:mellon@nominum.com</a>]
<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:18 PM<br>
&gt; To: Bernie Volz<br>
&gt; Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org; 'Ralph Droms'; 'Wing Cheong Lau'<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information <br>
&gt; Option and RADIUS Attributes sub-option<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Er, furthermore there's already a relay encapsulation method <br>
&gt; defined in <br>
&gt; the base DHCPv6 specification.<br>
&gt; <br>
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Great, I have no objection to your suggested name other than it is =
rather
long - perhaps it will become known as OPTION_RRA.
=20
Are you or Ralph going to discuss this at the upcoming DHC WG session =
and
request it become a WG work item?
=20
=20
BTW, we don't need a DHCPv6 version of
draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt because the existing DHCPv6 =
Vendor
options can be used by the Relay Agent just fine. Again, it is WHERE =
these
options appear that indicates whether they are for the client (in the =
client
part of the message) or the relay, in the Relay-Forw or Relay-Reply part =
of
the message. That work is already done and is not needed!!
=20
- Bernie
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Wing Cheong Lau [mailto:lau@qualcomm.com]=20
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:50 PM
To: dhcwg@ietf.org
Cc: Ted.Lemon@nominum.com; rdroms@cisco.com; volz@cisco.com
Subject: Fwd: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option =
and
RADIUS Attributes sub-option


Dear Bernie and Ted,

Thanks for your suggestion. My response is interlaced below.



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A very basic question ... why have a Relay Agent Information option and =
have
sub-options inside this? And, especially 8-bit suboptions.
=20
It seems to me that with the larger 16-bit DHCPv6 option space, we'd =
just
define an option to carry the "Radius Attributes" instead of placing =
this
under a general "Relay Agent" option. The context of the message is =
pretty
clear -- if it is from the relay, it can only be in a Relay-Forw (and
Relay-Reply) message option area.
=20
There's also another advantage to this. Take the DHCPv4 subnet-selection
option - there are two forms of this, one in for the relay agent and =
another
for the client. This won't be necessary in DHCPv6 as the LOCATION of the
message (either in the Client's Solicit, Request, ... or in a
Relay-Forw/Relay-Reply) tells us who added it and which we'd prefer to =
use.
This means only ONE option number is needed.
=20
So, I'd much rather see this specify a base option,
OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES, and have this contain the Radius attributes in =
the
standard Radius encoding. So, it is just 16-bit option code, 16-bit =
length,
followed by the radius encoding (as 8-bit suboptions).

=20
You can then specify that OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES can only appear in =
the
Relay-Forw (and Relay-Reply) message and MUST NOT appear in client =
messages
themselves.
=20
- Bernie





The original intent of specifying the sub-option was to try to simplify =
the
definition of other sub-options in the future,=20
e.g. the DHCPv6 version of draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt and to
save a byte of so if the relay needs to include multiple sub-options at =
the
same time. =20
On 2nd thought, this "uncommon case"  may not worth the complexity.=20

Your suggestion looks cleaner.=20
Also, the use of 16-bit instead of 8-bit length field can  eliminate the
255-byte length limit of RADIUS attributes to be included.
I will make it a single-level option according your suggestion in the =
next
revision.


About the naming of the option, how about
"OPTION-RELAYED-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES"
instead of "OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES" ? This  is to highlight the nature =
of
this option,
i.e.  being inserted by the Relay Agent.


Thanks again.

Regards,

Wing





-----Original Message-----


From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf =
Of
Wing Cheong Lau


Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:45 PM


To: dhcwg@ietf.org


Subject: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and RADIUS
Attributes sub-option



Dear all,



We have submitted a new draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and =
RADIUS
Attributes sub-option last week. It's already available from the ietf =
site=20



http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt



but I have not seen the official announcement so far.



The draft basically carries over similar capabilities, namely,=20


RFC 3046 and draft-ietf-dhc-agentopt-radius-08.txt


from DHCPv4 to DHCPv6, with initial use cases targetting for=20


the 3GPP2 environment.



Comments are welcome.



Regards,



Wing



Abstract=20


   =20


   This document introduces the capabilities of the DHCPv4 Relay Agent=20


   Information Option in RFC 3046 and the corresponding RADIUS-


   Attributes Sub-option to DHCPv6. In particular, the document=20


   describes a new DHCPv6 option called the Relay Agent Information=20


   option which extends the set of DHCPv6 options as defined in RFC 3315 =



   and 3376. Following its DHCPv4 counterpart as defined in RFC 3046,=20


   the new option is inserted by the DHCPv6 relay agent when forwarding=20


   client-originated DHCPv6 packets to a DHCPv6 server. Servers=20


   recognizing the Relay Agent Information option may use the=20


   information to implement IP address or other parameter assignment=20


   policies.  The DHCP Server echoes the option back verbatim to the=20


   relay agent in server-to-client replies, and the relay agent strips=20


   the option before forwarding the reply to the client. The Relay Agent =



   Information option is organized as a single DHCPv6 option that=20


   contains one or more "sub-options" that convey information known by=20


   the relay agent.  A RADIUS Attributes Sub-option, following its=20


   DHCPv4 counterpart, is also defined. =20



>Ted:
>
>Not sure what you're referring to.
>
>A relay would normally take a client message and place it into a =
Relay-Forw
>with a Relay Message option containing the client's message. It can =
also
add
>any other options that it wants (and are allowed). In the base spec, =
this
>might include an Interface-ID option, for example. And, why I suggested =
was
>that this new I-D just define a "Radius Attribute" option which the =
Relay
>Agent would add into the Relay-Forw message.

>- Bernie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Lemon [mailto:mellon@nominum.com]=20
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:18 PM
> To: Bernie Volz
> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org; 'Ralph Droms'; 'Wing Cheong Lau'
> Subject: Re: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information=20
> Option and RADIUS Attributes sub-option
>=20
>=20
> Er, furthermore there's already a relay encapsulation method=20
> defined in=20
> the base DHCPv6 specification.
>=20



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<DIV><SPAN class=3D993110417-25102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Great,=20
I have no objection to your suggested name other than&nbsp;it is rather =
long -=20
perhaps it will become known as OPTION_RRA.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D993110417-25102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D993110417-25102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Are=20
you or Ralph going to discuss this at the upcoming DHC WG session and =
request it=20
become a WG work item?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D993110417-25102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D993110417-25102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D993110417-25102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>BTW,=20
we don't need a <FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3>DHCPv6 version=20
of draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt <FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>because the existing DHCPv6 Vendor options can be used by the =
Relay Agent=20
just fine. Again, it is WHERE these options appear that indicates =
whether they=20
are for the client (in the client part of the message) or the relay, in =
the=20
Relay-Forw or Relay-Reply part of the message. That work is already done =
and is=20
not needed!!</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D993110417-25102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D993110417-25102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>-=20
Bernie</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D993110417-25102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Wing =
Cheong Lau=20
  [mailto:lau@qualcomm.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 25, 2004 =
12:50=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> dhcwg@ietf.org<BR><B>Cc:</B> Ted.Lemon@nominum.com;=20
  rdroms@cisco.com; volz@cisco.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Fwd: RE: [dhcwg] =
New draft=20
  on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and RADIUS Attributes=20
  sub-option<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Dear Bernie and Ted,<BR><BR>Thanks for =
your=20
  suggestion. My response is interlaced below.<BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">X-BrightmailFiltered: =

    true<BR>From: "Bernie Volz" &lt;volz@cisco.com&gt;<BR>To: "'Wing =
Cheong=20
    Lau'" &lt;lau@qualcomm.com&gt;, &lt;dhcwg@ietf.org&gt;<BR>Cc: =
"'Ralph=20
    Droms'" &lt;rdroms@cisco.com&gt;<BR>Subject: RE: [dhcwg] New draft =
on DHCPv6=20
    Relay Information Option and RADIUS Attributes sub-option<BR>Date: =
Fri, 22=20
    Oct 2004 17:41:17 -0400<BR>Organization: Cisco<BR>X-Mailer: =
Microsoft=20
    Outlook, Build 10.0.6626<BR>Importance: Normal<BR>X-PMX-Version:=20
    4.6.0.99824, Antispam-Core: 4.6.0.97340, Antispam-Data:=20
    2004.10.22.1<BR>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2004 21:42:20.0795 =
(UTC)=20
    FILETIME=3D[025954B0:01C4B880]<BR><BR><FONT face=3Darial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>A=20
    very basic question ... why have a Relay Agent Information option =
and have=20
    sub-options inside this? And, especially 8-bit=20
    suboptions.<BR></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FONT face=3Darial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>It=20
    seems to me that with the larger 16-bit DHCPv6 option space, we'd =
just=20
    define an option to carry the "Radius Attributes" instead of placing =
this=20
    under a general "Relay Agent" option. The context of the message is =
pretty=20
    clear -- if it is from the relay, it can only be in a Relay-Forw =
(and=20
    Relay-Reply) message option area.<BR></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
    color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>There's also another advantage to this. =
Take the DHCPv4=20
    subnet-selection option - there are two forms of this, one in for =
the relay=20
    agent and another for the client. This won't be necessary in DHCPv6 =
as the=20
    LOCATION of the message (either in the Client's Solicit, Request, =
... or in=20
    a Relay-Forw/Relay-Reply) tells us who added it and which we'd =
prefer to=20
    use. This means only ONE option number is =
needed.<BR></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FONT=20
    face=3Darial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>So, I'd much rather see this =
specify a base=20
    option, OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES, and have this contain the Radius=20
    attributes in the standard Radius encoding. So, it is just 16-bit =
option=20
    code, 16-bit length, followed by the radius encoding (as 8-bit=20
    suboptions).<BR></FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT face=3Darial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>You can then specify that OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES can only =
appear in=20
    the Relay-Forw (and Relay-Reply) message and MUST NOT appear in =
client=20
    messages themselves.<BR></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FONT face=3Darial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>- Bernie<BR></FONT>
    <DL><FONT face=3Dtahoma size=3D2></FONT></DL></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DL></DL><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT><BR>The original intent of specifying the sub-option =
was to try=20
  to simplify the definition of other sub-options in the future, =
<BR>e.g. the=20
  DHCPv6 version of draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt and =
to<BR>save a byte=20
  of so if the relay needs to include multiple sub-options at the same=20
  time.&nbsp; <BR>On 2nd thought, this "uncommon case"&nbsp; may not =
worth the=20
  complexity. <BR><BR>Your suggestion looks cleaner. <BR>Also, the use =
of 16-bit=20
  instead of 8-bit length field can&nbsp; eliminate the<BR>255-byte =
length limit=20
  of RADIUS attributes to be included.<BR>I will make it a single-level =
option=20
  according your suggestion in the next revision.<BR><BR><BR>About the =
naming of=20
  the option, how about&nbsp; =
"OPTION-RELAYED-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES"<BR>instead of=20
  "OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES" ? This&nbsp; is to highlight the nature of =
this=20
  option,<BR>i.e.&nbsp; being inserted by the Relay =
Agent.<BR><BR><BR>Thanks=20
  again.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Wing<BR><BR><BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">
    <DL>
      <DD><FONT face=3Dtahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR>
      <DD>From:</B> dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org"=20
      eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org</A>] On Behalf Of =
</B>Wing=20
      Cheong Lau<BR>
      <DD>Sent:</B> Friday, October 22, 2004 12:45 PM<BR>
      <DD>To:</B> dhcwg@ietf.org<BR>
      <DD>Subject:</B> [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information =
Option and=20
      RADIUS Attributes sub-option<BR><BR></FONT>
      <DD>Dear all,<BR><BR>
      <DD>We have submitted a new draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information =
Option and=20
      RADIUS Attributes sub-option last week. It's already available =
from the=20
      ietf site <BR><BR>
      <DD><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-0=
0.txt"=20
      =
eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6=
-relayopt-00.txt</A><BR><BR>
      <DD>but I have not seen the official announcement so far.<BR><BR>
      <DD>The draft basically carries over similar capabilities, namely, =
<BR>
      <DD>RFC 3046 and <FONT=20
      face=3D"Courier New, =
Courier">draft-ietf-dhc-agentopt-radius-08.txt<BR></FONT>
      <DD>from DHCPv4 to DHCPv6, with initial use cases targetting for =
<BR>
      <DD>the 3GPP2 environment.<BR><BR>
      <DD>Comments are welcome.<BR><BR>
      <DD>Regards,<BR><BR>
      <DD>Wing<BR><BR>
      <DD><FONT face=3D"Courier New, Courier">Abstract <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; This document introduces the capabilities of the =
DHCPv4=20
      Relay Agent <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; Information Option in RFC 3046 and the =
corresponding=20
      RADIUS-<BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; Attributes Sub-option to DHCPv6. In particular, =
the=20
      document <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; describes a new DHCPv6 option called the Relay =
Agent=20
      Information <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; option which extends the set of DHCPv6 options as =
defined=20
      in RFC 3315 <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; and 3376. Following its DHCPv4 counterpart as =
defined in=20
      RFC 3046, <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; the new option is inserted by the DHCPv6 relay =
agent when=20
      forwarding <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; client-originated DHCPv6 packets to a DHCPv6 =
server.=20
      Servers <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; recognizing the Relay Agent Information option =
may use=20
      the <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; information to implement IP address or other =
parameter=20
      assignment <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; policies.&nbsp; The DHCP Server echoes the option =
back=20
      verbatim to the <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; relay agent in server-to-client replies, and the =
relay=20
      agent strips <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; the option before forwarding the reply to the =
client. The=20
      Relay Agent <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; Information option is organized as a single =
DHCPv6 option=20
      that <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; contains one or more "sub-options" that convey=20
      information known by <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; the relay agent.&nbsp; A RADIUS Attributes =
Sub-option,=20
      following its <BR>
      <DD>&nbsp;&nbsp; DHCPv4 counterpart, is also defined.&nbsp;=20
      </FONT><BR></DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DL></DL><BR>&gt;Ted:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Not sure what you're referring=20
  to.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;A relay would normally take a client message and =
place it=20
  into a Relay-Forw<BR>&gt;with a Relay Message option containing the =
client's=20
  message. It can also add<BR>&gt;any other options that it wants (and =
are=20
  allowed). In the base spec, this<BR>&gt;might include an Interface-ID =
option,=20
  for example. And, why I suggested was<BR>&gt;that this new I-D just =
define a=20
  "Radius Attribute" option which the Relay<BR>&gt;Agent would add into =
the=20
  Relay-Forw message.<BR><BR>&gt;- Bernie<BR><BR>&gt; -----Original=20
  Message-----<BR>&gt; From: Ted Lemon [<A =
href=3D"mailto:mellon@nominum.com"=20
  eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:mellon@nominum.com</A>] <BR>&gt; Sent: =
Friday, October=20
  22, 2004 8:18 PM<BR>&gt; To: Bernie Volz<BR>&gt; Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org; =
'Ralph=20
  Droms'; 'Wing Cheong Lau'<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [dhcwg] New draft on =
DHCPv6=20
  Relay Information <BR>&gt; Option and RADIUS Attributes =
sub-option<BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Er, furthermore there's already a relay =
encapsulation method=20
  <BR>&gt; defined in <BR>&gt; the base DHCPv6 specification.<BR>&gt;=20
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At 10:11 AM 10/25/2004, Bernie Volz wrote:
>Great, I have no objection to your suggested name other than it is rather 
>long - perhaps it will become known as OPTION_RRA.
>
>Are you or Ralph going to discuss this at the upcoming DHC WG session and 
>request it become a WG work item?

Yes, I have just requested for a 10-min slot and the objective is to 
request it to become a WG work-item.

Regards,

Wing


>
>
>BTW, we don't need a DHCPv6 version of 
>draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt because the existing DHCPv6 Vendor 
>options can be used by the Relay Agent just fine. Again, it is WHERE these 
>options appear that indicates whether they are for the client (in the 
>client part of the message) or the relay, in the Relay-Forw or Relay-Reply 
>part of the message. That work is already done and is not needed!!
>
>- Bernie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Wing Cheong Lau [mailto:lau@qualcomm.com]
>Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:50 PM
>To: dhcwg@ietf.org
>Cc: Ted.Lemon@nominum.com; rdroms@cisco.com; volz@cisco.com
>Subject: Fwd: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and 
>RADIUS Attributes sub-option
>
>Dear Bernie and Ted,
>
>Thanks for your suggestion. My response is interlaced below.
>
>>X-BrightmailFiltered: true
>>From: "Bernie Volz" <volz@cisco.com>
>>To: "'Wing Cheong Lau'" <lau@qualcomm.com>, <dhcwg@ietf.org>
>>Cc: "'Ralph Droms'" <rdroms@cisco.com>
>>Subject: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and 
>>RADIUS Attributes sub-option
>>Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:41:17 -0400
>>Organization: Cisco
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>>
>>A very basic question ... why have a Relay Agent Information option and 
>>have sub-options inside this? And, especially 8-bit suboptions.
>>
>>It seems to me that with the larger 16-bit DHCPv6 option space, we'd just 
>>define an option to carry the "Radius Attributes" instead of placing this 
>>under a general "Relay Agent" option. The context of the message is 
>>pretty clear -- if it is from the relay, it can only be in a Relay-Forw 
>>(and Relay-Reply) message option area.
>>
>>There's also another advantage to this. Take the DHCPv4 subnet-selection 
>>option - there are two forms of this, one in for the relay agent and 
>>another for the client. This won't be necessary in DHCPv6 as the LOCATION 
>>of the message (either in the Client's Solicit, Request, ... or in a 
>>Relay-Forw/Relay-Reply) tells us who added it and which we'd prefer to 
>>use. This means only ONE option number is needed.
>>
>>So, I'd much rather see this specify a base option, 
>>OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES, and have this contain the Radius attributes in 
>>the standard Radius encoding. So, it is just 16-bit option code, 16-bit 
>>length, followed by the radius encoding (as 8-bit suboptions).
>>
>>
>>You can then specify that OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES can only appear in the 
>>Relay-Forw (and Relay-Reply) message and MUST NOT appear in client 
>>messages themselves.
>>
>>- Bernie
>
>The original intent of specifying the sub-option was to try to simplify 
>the definition of other sub-options in the future,
>e.g. the DHCPv6 version of draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt and to
>save a byte of so if the relay needs to include multiple sub-options at 
>the same time.
>On 2nd thought, this "uncommon case"  may not worth the complexity.
>
>Your suggestion looks cleaner.
>Also, the use of 16-bit instead of 8-bit length field can  eliminate the
>255-byte length limit of RADIUS attributes to be included.
>I will make it a single-level option according your suggestion in the next 
>revision.
>
>
>About the naming of the option, how about  "OPTION-RELAYED-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES"
>instead of "OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES" ? This  is to highlight the nature 
>of this option,
>i.e.  being inserted by the Relay Agent.
>
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Regards,
>
>Wing
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of 
>>Wing Cheong Lau
>>Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:45 PM
>>To: dhcwg@ietf.org
>>Subject: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and RADIUS 
>>Attributes sub-option
>>
>>Dear all,
>>We have submitted a new draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and 
>>RADIUS Attributes sub-option last week. It's already available from the 
>>ietf site
>>
>>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt
>>but I have not seen the official announcement so far.
>>The draft basically carries over similar capabilities, namely,
>>RFC 3046 and draft-ietf-dhc-agentopt-radius-08.txt
>>from DHCPv4 to DHCPv6, with initial use cases targetting for
>>the 3GPP2 environment.
>>Comments are welcome.
>>Regards,
>>Wing
>>
>>Abstract
>>
>>    This document introduces the capabilities of the DHCPv4 Relay Agent
>>    Information Option in RFC 3046 and the corresponding RADIUS-
>>    Attributes Sub-option to DHCPv6. In particular, the document
>>    describes a new DHCPv6 option called the Relay Agent Information
>>    option which extends the set of DHCPv6 options as defined in RFC 3315
>>    and 3376. Following its DHCPv4 counterpart as defined in RFC 3046,
>>    the new option is inserted by the DHCPv6 relay agent when forwarding
>>    client-originated DHCPv6 packets to a DHCPv6 server. Servers
>>    recognizing the Relay Agent Information option may use the
>>    information to implement IP address or other parameter assignment
>>    policies.  The DHCP Server echoes the option back verbatim to the
>>    relay agent in server-to-client replies, and the relay agent strips
>>    the option before forwarding the reply to the client. The Relay Agent
>>    Information option is organized as a single DHCPv6 option that
>>    contains one or more "sub-options" that convey information known by
>>    the relay agent.  A RADIUS Attributes Sub-option, following its
>>    DHCPv4 counterpart, is also defined.
>
> >Ted:
> >
> >Not sure what you're referring to.
> >
> >A relay would normally take a client message and place it into a Relay-Forw
> >with a Relay Message option containing the client's message. It can also add
> >any other options that it wants (and are allowed). In the base spec, this
> >might include an Interface-ID option, for example. And, why I suggested was
> >that this new I-D just define a "Radius Attribute" option which the Relay
> >Agent would add into the Relay-Forw message.
>
> >- Bernie
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ted Lemon [mailto:mellon@nominum.com]
> > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:18 PM
> > To: Bernie Volz
> > Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org; 'Ralph Droms'; 'Wing Cheong Lau'
> > Subject: Re: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information
> > Option and RADIUS Attributes sub-option
> >
> >
> > Er, furthermore there's already a relay encapsulation method
> > defined in
> > the base DHCPv6 specification.
> >

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At 10:11 AM 10/25/2004, Bernie Volz wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">Great,
I have no objection to your suggested name other than it is rather long -
perhaps it will become known as OPTION_RRA.<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">Are you or Ralph going to
discuss this at the upcoming DHC WG session and request it become a WG
work item?<br>
</font></blockquote><br>
Yes, I have just requested for a 10-min slot and the objective is to
request it to become a WG work-item.<br><br>
Regards,<br><br>
Wing<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">BTW, we don't need a
</font><font face="Times New Roman, Times">DHCPv6 version of
draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt
</font><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">because the existing
DHCPv6 Vendor options can be used by the Relay Agent just fine. Again, it
is WHERE these options appear that indicates whether they are for the
client (in the client part of the message) or the relay, in the
Relay-Forw or Relay-Reply part of the message. That work is already done
and is not needed!!<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">- Bernie<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>

<dl>
<dd><font face="tahoma" size=2>-----Original Message-----<br>

<dd>From:</b> Wing Cheong Lau
[<a href="mailto:lau@qualcomm.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:lau@qualcomm.com</a>]
<br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Monday, October 25, 2004 12:50 PM<br>

<dd>To:</b> dhcwg@ietf.org<br>

<dd>Cc:</b> Ted.Lemon@nominum.com; rdroms@cisco.com; volz@cisco.com<br>

<dd>Subject:</b> Fwd: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information
Option and RADIUS Attributes sub-option<br><br>
</font>
<dd>Dear Bernie and Ted,<br><br>

<dd>Thanks for your suggestion. My response is interlaced 
below.<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>
<dd>X-BrightmailFiltered: true<br>

<dd>From: &quot;Bernie Volz&quot; &lt;volz@cisco.com&gt;<br>

<dd>To: &quot;'Wing Cheong Lau'&quot; &lt;lau@qualcomm.com&gt;,
&lt;dhcwg@ietf.org&gt;<br>

<dd>Cc: &quot;'Ralph Droms'&quot; &lt;rdroms@cisco.com&gt;<br>

<dd>Subject: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and
RADIUS Attributes sub-option<br>

<dd>Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:41:17 -0400<br>

<dd>Organization: Cisco<br>

<dd>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626<br>

<dd>Importance: Normal<br>

<dd>X-PMX-Version: 4.6.0.99824, Antispam-Core: 4.6.0.97340,
Antispam-Data: 2004.10.22.1<br>

<dd>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2004 21:42:20.0795 (UTC)
FILETIME=[025954B0:01C4B880]<br><br>

<dd><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">A very basic question ...
why have a Relay Agent Information option and have sub-options inside
this? And, especially 8-bit suboptions.<br>
</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">It seems to me that with
the larger 16-bit DHCPv6 option space, we'd just define an option to
carry the &quot;Radius Attributes&quot; instead of placing this under a
general &quot;Relay Agent&quot; option. The context of the message is
pretty clear -- if it is from the relay, it can only be in a Relay-Forw
(and Relay-Reply) message option area.<br>
</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">There's also another
advantage to this. Take the DHCPv4 subnet-selection option - there are
two forms of this, one in for the relay agent and another for the client.
This won't be necessary in DHCPv6 as the LOCATION of the message (either
in the Client's Solicit, Request, ... or in a Relay-Forw/Relay-Reply)
tells us who added it and which we'd prefer to use. This means only ONE
option number is needed.<br>
</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">So, I'd much rather see
this specify a base option, OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES, and have this
contain the Radius attributes in the standard Radius encoding. So, it is
just 16-bit option code, 16-bit length, followed by the radius encoding
(as 8-bit suboptions).<br>
</font><br>

<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">You can then specify that
OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES can only appear in the Relay-Forw (and
Relay-Reply) message and MUST NOT appear in client messages
themselves.<br>
</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">-
Bernie</font></blockquote>
</dl><br>
The original intent of specifying the sub-option was to try to simplify
the definition of other sub-options in the future, <br>
e.g. the DHCPv6 version of draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt and
to<br>
save a byte of so if the relay needs to include multiple sub-options at
the same time.&nbsp; <br>
On 2nd thought, this &quot;uncommon case&quot;&nbsp; may not worth the
complexity. <br><br>
Your suggestion looks cleaner. <br>
Also, the use of 16-bit instead of 8-bit length field can&nbsp; eliminate
the<br>
255-byte length limit of RADIUS attributes to be included.<br>
I will make it a single-level option according your suggestion in the
next revision.<br><br>
<br>
About the naming of the option, how about&nbsp;
&quot;OPTION-RELAYED-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES&quot;<br>
instead of &quot;OPTION-RADIUS-ATTRIBUTES&quot; ? This&nbsp; is to
highlight the nature of this option,<br>
i.e.&nbsp; being inserted by the Relay Agent.<br><br>
<br>
Thanks again.<br><br>
Regards,<br><br>
Wing<br><br>
<br><br><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>
<dl>
<dd><font face="tahoma" size=2>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org
[<a href="mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org" eudora="autourl">mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Wing Cheong Lau
<dd>Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:45 PM
<dd>To: dhcwg@ietf.org
<dd>Subject: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and
RADIUS Attributes sub-option<br><br>
</font>
<dd>Dear all,<br>

<dd>We have submitted a new draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and
RADIUS Attributes sub-option last week. It's already available from the
ietf site <br><br>

<dd><a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt" eudora="autourl">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt</a><br>

<dd>but I have not seen the official announcement so far.<br>

<dd>The draft basically carries over similar capabilities, namely, 
<dd>RFC 3046 and
<font face="Courier New, Courier">draft-ietf-dhc-agentopt-radius-08.txt</font>
<dd>from DHCPv4 to DHCPv6, with initial use cases targetting for 
<dd>the 3GPP2 environment.<br>

<dd>Comments are welcome.<br>

<dd>Regards,<br>

<dd>Wing<br><br>

<dd><font face="Courier New, Courier">Abstract 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; This document introduces the capabilities of the DHCPv4
Relay Agent 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; Information Option in RFC 3046 and the corresponding
RADIUS-
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; Attributes Sub-option to DHCPv6. In particular, the
document 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; describes a new DHCPv6 option called the Relay Agent
Information 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; option which extends the set of DHCPv6 options as
defined in RFC 3315 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; and 3376. Following its DHCPv4 counterpart as defined in
RFC 3046, 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; the new option is inserted by the DHCPv6 relay agent
when forwarding 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; client-originated DHCPv6 packets to a DHCPv6 server.
Servers 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; recognizing the Relay Agent Information option may use
the 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; information to implement IP address or other parameter
assignment 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; policies.&nbsp; The DHCP Server echoes the option back
verbatim to the 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; relay agent in server-to-client replies, and the relay
agent strips 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; the option before forwarding the reply to the client.
The Relay Agent 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; Information option is organized as a single DHCPv6
option that 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; contains one or more &quot;sub-options&quot; that convey
information known by 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; the relay agent.&nbsp; A RADIUS Attributes Sub-option,
following its 
<dd>&nbsp;&nbsp; DHCPv4 counterpart, is also defined.&nbsp;
</font></blockquote>
</dl><br>
&gt;Ted:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Not sure what you're referring to.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;A relay would normally take a client message and place it into a
Relay-Forw<br>
&gt;with a Relay Message option containing the client's message. It can
also add<br>
&gt;any other options that it wants (and are allowed). In the base spec,
this<br>
&gt;might include an Interface-ID option, for example. And, why I
suggested was<br>
&gt;that this new I-D just define a &quot;Radius Attribute&quot; option
which the Relay<br>
&gt;Agent would add into the Relay-Forw message.<br><br>
&gt;- Bernie<br><br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Ted Lemon
[<a href="mailto:mellon@nominum.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:mellon@nominum.com</a>]
<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:18 PM<br>
&gt; To: Bernie Volz<br>
&gt; Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org; 'Ralph Droms'; 'Wing Cheong Lau'<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information <br>
&gt; Option and RADIUS Attributes sub-option<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Er, furthermore there's already a relay encapsulation method <br>
&gt; defined in <br>
&gt; the base DHCPv6 specification.<br>
&gt; <br>
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At 10:11 AM 10/25/2004, Bernie Volz wrote:

>
>BTW, we don't need a DHCPv6 version of 
>draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt because the existing DHCPv6 Vendor 
>options can be used by the Relay Agent just fine. Again, it is WHERE these 
>options appear that indicates whether they are for the client (in the 
>client part of the message) or the relay, in the Relay-Forw or Relay-Reply 
>part of the message. That work is already done and is not needed!!
>
>- Bernie


I see. However,  the use of such vendor-options by the Relay Agent is kind 
of hidden/missing from the current text of RFC 3315.
For example, Sections  22.16 and 22.17 of RFC 3315 only describe the use of 
such vendor options by the client and the server. The use of these options 
by the relay agent are not mentioned at all.

While it is true that the table in Appendix A of RFC3315
does say the possible inclusion of the vendor options in the 
Relay-Forward/Relay-Reply message,
the table in Appendix B seems to imply otherwise:

In the table in Appendix B,  while there are  "*"'s  for the  Relay-Message 
and Interface ID rows under
the Relay Forw./Relay Replay columns,  no "*"'s are found  for the Vendor 
Class/Vendor Info rows for
the Relay Forw./Relay Replay columns. I think if Relay agent is allowed to 
include those vendor options in the
Relay Forw/Replay messages, just like it includes the Interface option,
the rows for the  Vendor options should look like the row of  the Interface 
option.

Am I missing something ? or did I misunderstand the entire meaning of the 
table in Appendix B ?
Actually, what does the "Option Field" column in the table mean ?

Also what's the "Note" below the table refers to ?

Would you share more clarification/ insights on this ?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Regards,

Wing


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At 10:11 AM 10/25/2004, Bernie Volz wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">BTW, we don't need a
</font><font face="Times New Roman, Times">DHCPv6 version of
draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt
</font><font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">because the existing
DHCPv6 Vendor options can be used by the Relay Agent just fine. Again, it
is WHERE these options appear that indicates whether they are for the
client (in the client part of the message) or the relay, in the
Relay-Forw or Relay-Reply part of the message. That work is already done
and is not needed!!<br>
</font>&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2 color="#0000FF">- Bernie<br>
</font></blockquote><br><br>
I see. However,&nbsp; the use of such vendor-options by the Relay Agent
is kind of hidden/missing from the current text of RFC 3315.<br>
For example, Sections&nbsp; 22.16 and 22.17 of RFC 3315 only describe the
use of such vendor options by the client and the server. The use of these
options by the relay agent are not mentioned at all. <br><br>
While it is true that the table in Appendix A of RFC3315<br>
does say the possible inclusion of the vendor options in the
Relay-Forward/Relay-Reply message,&nbsp; <br>
the table in Appendix B seems to imply otherwise: <br><br>
In the table in Appendix B,&nbsp; while there are&nbsp;
&quot;*&quot;'s&nbsp; for the&nbsp; Relay-Message and Interface ID rows
under<br>
the Relay Forw./Relay Replay columns,&nbsp; no &quot;*&quot;'s are
found&nbsp; for the Vendor Class/Vendor Info rows for<br>
the Relay Forw./Relay Replay columns. I think if Relay agent is allowed
to include those vendor options in the<br>
Relay Forw/Replay messages, just like it includes the Interface
option,&nbsp; <br>
the rows for the&nbsp; Vendor options should look like the row of&nbsp;
the Interface option.<br><br>
Am I missing something ? or did I misunderstand the entire meaning of the
table in Appendix B ?<br>
Actually, what does the &quot;Option Field&quot; column in the table mean
?<br><br>
Also what's the &quot;Note&quot; below the table refers to ?<br><br>
Would you share more clarification/ insights on this ?<br><br>
Thanks a lot in advance.<br><br>
Regards,<br><br>
Wing <br><br>
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In a RFC 3315-bis, we'll need to correct this. Appendix B is in error =
and
should allow these options in the Relay-Forw/Relay-Reply. And, the
description of the options should mention that these can also be used by =
the
relay agent <-> server communication.
=20
But the intent was always there, as shown in Appendix A, to use these
options for the relay agent as well. I think Appendix A is correct and
complete (in terms of the options in the base specification.)
=20
- Bernie
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf =
Of
Wing Cheong Lau
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 2:59 PM
To: Bernie Volz; 'Wing Cheong Lau'; dhcwg@ietf.org
Cc: Ted.Lemon@nominum.com; rdroms@cisco.com
Subject: RE: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option =
and
RADIUS Attributes sub-option


At 10:11 AM 10/25/2004, Bernie Volz wrote:




BTW, we don't need a DHCPv6 version of
draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt because the existing DHCPv6 =
Vendor
options can be used by the Relay Agent just fine. Again, it is WHERE =
these
options appear that indicates whether they are for the client (in the =
client
part of the message) or the relay, in the Relay-Forw or Relay-Reply part =
of
the message. That work is already done and is not needed!!
=20
- Bernie




I see. However,  the use of such vendor-options by the Relay Agent is =
kind
of hidden/missing from the current text of RFC 3315.
For example, Sections  22.16 and 22.17 of RFC 3315 only describe the use =
of
such vendor options by the client and the server. The use of these =
options
by the relay agent are not mentioned at all.=20

While it is true that the table in Appendix A of RFC3315
does say the possible inclusion of the vendor options in the
Relay-Forward/Relay-Reply message, =20
the table in Appendix B seems to imply otherwise:=20

In the table in Appendix B,  while there are  "*"'s  for the  =
Relay-Message
and Interface ID rows under
the Relay Forw./Relay Replay columns,  no "*"'s are found  for the =
Vendor
Class/Vendor Info rows for
the Relay Forw./Relay Replay columns. I think if Relay agent is allowed =
to
include those vendor options in the
Relay Forw/Replay messages, just like it includes the Interface option,  =

the rows for the  Vendor options should look like the row of  the =
Interface
option.

Am I missing something ? or did I misunderstand the entire meaning of =
the
table in Appendix B ?
Actually, what does the "Option Field" column in the table mean ?

Also what's the "Note" below the table refers to ?

Would you share more clarification/ insights on this ?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Regards,

Wing=20




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size=3D2>In a=20
RFC 3315-bis, we'll need to correct this. Appendix B is in error and =
should=20
allow these options in the Relay-Forw/Relay-Reply. And, the description =
of the=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D363100120-25102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>But=20
the intent was always there, as shown in Appendix A, to use these =
options for=20
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terms of=20
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size=3D2>-=20
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  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
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  </B>Wing Cheong Lau<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 25, 2004 2:59=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Bernie Volz; 'Wing Cheong Lau'; =
dhcwg@ietf.org<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
  Ted.Lemon@nominum.com; rdroms@cisco.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: RE: =
[dhcwg] New=20
  draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and RADIUS Attributes=20
  sub-option<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>At 10:11 AM 10/25/2004, Bernie Volz=20
  wrote:<BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><BR><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
    color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>BTW, we don't need a </FONT><FONT=20
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color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>because the existing DHCPv6 Vendor options can be used by =
the Relay=20
    Agent just fine. Again, it is WHERE these options appear that =
indicates=20
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or the=20
    relay, in the Relay-Forw or Relay-Reply part of the message. That =
work is=20
    already done and is not needed!!<BR></FONT>&nbsp;<BR><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
    color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>- Bernie<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I =
see.=20
  However,&nbsp; the use of such vendor-options by the Relay Agent is =
kind of=20
  hidden/missing from the current text of RFC 3315.<BR>For example,=20
  Sections&nbsp; 22.16 and 22.17 of RFC 3315 only describe the use of =
such=20
  vendor options by the client and the server. The use of these options =
by the=20
  relay agent are not mentioned at all. <BR><BR>While it is true that =
the table=20
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vendor=20
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in=20
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Forw./Relay=20
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vendor=20
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the=20
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should look=20
  like the row of&nbsp; the Interface option.<BR><BR>Am I missing =
something ? or=20
  did I misunderstand the entire meaning of the table in Appendix B=20
  ?<BR>Actually, what does the "Option Field" column in the table mean=20
  ?<BR><BR>Also what's the "Note" below the table refers to =
?<BR><BR>Would you=20
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I have not followed this discussion yet, but I would like to notify the WG
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http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt

The idea is to allow the relay agent to convey some received information
from RADIUS or DIAMETER server to the MN for MIP6 bootstrapping when the
relay agent is also a NAS.

"
Abstract


   This document defines a new DHCPv6 option and number of sub-options
   for DHCP Relay Agent to facilitate Mobile IPv6 bootstrapping along
   with a AAA infrastructure.
"

Comments are welcome.

Regards,
Kuntal

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:14 PM
To: 'Wing Cheong Lau'; dhcwg@ietf.org
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Subject: RE: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option
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In a RFC 3315-bis, we'll need to correct this. Appendix B is in error and
should allow these options in the Relay-Forw/Relay-Reply. And, the
description of the options should mention that these can also be used by the
relay agent <-> server communication.

But the intent was always there, as shown in Appendix A, to use these
options for the relay agent as well. I think Appendix A is correct and
complete (in terms of the options in the base specification.)

- Bernie

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At 10:11 AM 10/25/2004, Bernie Volz wrote:



BTW, we don't need a DHCPv6 version of
draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt because the existing DHCPv6 Vendor
options can be used by the Relay Agent just fine. Again, it is WHERE these
options appear that indicates whether they are for the client (in the client
part of the message) or the relay, in the Relay-Forw or Relay-Reply part of
the message. That work is already done and is not needed!!
 
- Bernie



I see. However,  the use of such vendor-options by the Relay Agent is kind
of hidden/missing from the current text of RFC 3315.
For example, Sections  22.16 and 22.17 of RFC 3315 only describe the use of
such vendor options by the client and the server. The use of these options
by the relay agent are not mentioned at all. 

While it is true that the table in Appendix A of RFC3315
does say the possible inclusion of the vendor options in the
Relay-Forward/Relay-Reply message,  
the table in Appendix B seems to imply otherwise: 

In the table in Appendix B,  while there are  "*"'s  for the  Relay-Message
and Interface ID rows under
the Relay Forw./Relay Replay columns,  no "*"'s are found  for the Vendor
Class/Vendor Info rows for
the Relay Forw./Relay Replay columns. I think if Relay agent is allowed to
include those vendor options in the
Relay Forw/Replay messages, just like it includes the Interface option,  
the rows for the  Vendor options should look like the row of  the Interface
option.

Am I missing something ? or did I misunderstand the entire meaning of the
table in Appendix B ?
Actually, what does the "Option Field" column in the table mean ?

Also what's the "Note" below the table refers to ?

Would you share more clarification/ insights on this ?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Regards,

Wing 

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If a statelesss dhcpv6 client receives a reply with
preference option, it has to wait until retransmission
timer expires to select reply highest preference.
I wonder if client has to wait for timeout of retransmission
timer if the first reply does not contain a preference option ?
Or is the client allowed to use the info from the reply imediately ?

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What about the deployment issue? The 3GGP2 specification will be
ratified in November, with deployment following soon.  Some service
providers already have DHCP servers in place that must be updated for
any new options.  The options defined in the current drafts can likely
be supported without code changes to existing servers, allowing for
faster deployment.  Use of a VIVSO sub-option would require code
changes to existing servers.  How long would it take to deploy DHCP
server that can support VIVSO?

BTW, we need more discussion of this issue *soon* due to the time
constraints of the upcoming 3GPP2 standards process and deployment.

- Ralph

At 04:12 PM 10/21/2004 -0400, Bernie Volz wrote:
>Personally, I'd like to see the DHCPv4 VIVSO get deployed and pushing these
>options to using it would be a step at making this happen (as one would
>expect 3GPP2 vendors to have some significant input to the decisions of DHCP
>server vendors).
>
>It also means that 3GPP2 is free to define other VIVSO options in the future
>within their own forum and need not go to the IETF (and DHC WG). I suspect
>that this would provide much faster deployment for them in the future.
>
>Also, the DHCPv6 OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS are already
>there for DHCPv6.
>
>BTW, 3GPP2 already has an enterprise-id number:
>
>5535
>   3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 (3GPP2)
>     Allen Long
>       along@cisco.com
>
>So, they'd be good to go!
>
>- Bernie
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org]
> > On Behalf Of Ralph Droms
> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:35 PM
> > To: dhcwg@ietf.org
> > Subject: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >
> >
> > We need to have a short WG conversation about two options
> > that were discussed at the WG meeting in San Diego.  The
> > outcome of the conversation will be to determine consensus
> > about taking on these two
> > drafts:
> >
> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv4-option-01.txt
> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt
> >
> > as dhc WG work items or recommending that 3GPP2 define
> > vendor-identifying vendor-specific option (VIVSO; option code
> > 125) sub-options to carry the information described in the drafts.
> >
> > If the WG consensus is to take on the drafts as WG work items
> > drafts, are they acceptable as currently published?
> >
> > Because of the time constraints imposed by the 3GPP2
> > schedule, I'm going to cut off discussion on this topic next
> > Thursday, 10/28, and determine WG consensus at that time.
> >
> > Here are some considerations for discussion:
> >
> > 3GPP2 has defined some vendor-specific sub-options, for
> > example, to identify a MIP home agent for the DHCP client.
> >
> > A 3GPP2 client needs to specify to the DHCP server which
> > parameters it needs - specifically, whether it needs to
> > receive the BCMCS servers. If the current drafts are adopted,
> > the client can simply use the parameter request list option
> > (option code 55) for the request.  If a VIVSO sub-option is
> > used, 3GPP2 would also define a parameter request list sub-option.
> >
> > There is a deployment issue, as some service providers
> > already have DHCP servers in place that must be updated for
> > any new options.  Is it the case that the options defined in
> > the current drafts can be supported without code changes to
> > existing servers?  Use of a VIVSO sub-option would require
> > code changes to existing servers.  How long would it take to
> > deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO.
> >
> > BCMCS may be adopted across multiple technologies, so the
> > options in the current drafts would not be specific to 3GPP2.
> >  However, the BCMCS specification has not adopted by other
> > standards, yet, so we may need to define additional options
> > for related services in the future if those services are not
> > interoperable with the 3GPP2 BCMCS service.
> >
> > CableLabs has one option with sub-options (RFC 3495) rather
> > than multiple options because:
> > * wanted to avoid exhaustion of DHCP option code space; perhaps less
> >    of an issue with option code reclassification
> > * would have used VIVSO if available
> > * use of VIVSO with sub-options would give 3GPP2 freedom to define new
> >    sub-options on demand
> > Do these considerations have an impact on our decision about
> > how to proceed with the 3GPP2 options?
> >
> > - Ralph
> >
> >
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From: "Kuntal Chowdhury" <chowdury@nortelnetworks.com>
To: Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com>, volz@cisco.com
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
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I have a few questions on the possible use of DHCPv6 OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and
OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to request vendor specific info:

1. Since the enterprise number is included in OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS, will it
suffice to use only this option in the information request message from the
DHCP client? Is the use of OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS mandatory while vendor
specific options are requested?

2. Does the mere inclusion of OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS in the information request
message indicate to the DHCP server that the DHCP client is requesting for
some specific vendor specific options?

3. O-R-O has the format where each of requested option codes are listed in
it. However, in OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS the encapsulated vendor-specific options
field MUST be encoded as a sequence of code/length/value fields. What value
does the DHCP client use while requesting for a vendor specific option? 

These things are not clearly defined in RFC3315.

Regards,
Kuntal

>-----Original Message-----
>From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] 
>On Behalf Of Ralph Droms
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:29 PM
>To: dhcwg@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>
>
>
>What about the deployment issue? The 3GGP2 specification will 
>be ratified in November, with deployment following soon.  Some 
>service providers already have DHCP servers in place that must 
>be updated for any new options.  The options defined in the 
>current drafts can likely be supported without code changes to 
>existing servers, allowing for faster deployment.  Use of a 
>VIVSO sub-option would require code changes to existing 
>servers.  How long would it take to deploy DHCP server that 
>can support VIVSO?
>
>BTW, we need more discussion of this issue *soon* due to the 
>time constraints of the upcoming 3GPP2 standards process and 
>deployment.
>
>- Ralph
>
>At 04:12 PM 10/21/2004 -0400, Bernie Volz wrote:
>>Personally, I'd like to see the DHCPv4 VIVSO get deployed and pushing 
>>these options to using it would be a step at making this 
>happen (as one 
>>would expect 3GPP2 vendors to have some significant input to the 
>>decisions of DHCP server vendors).
>>
>>It also means that 3GPP2 is free to define other VIVSO options in the 
>>future within their own forum and need not go to the IETF 
>(and DHC WG). 
>>I suspect that this would provide much faster deployment for them in 
>>the future.
>>
>>Also, the DHCPv6 OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS 
>are already 
>>there for DHCPv6.
>>
>>BTW, 3GPP2 already has an enterprise-id number:
>>
>>5535
>>   3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 (3GPP2)
>>     Allen Long
>>       along@cisco.com
>>
>>So, they'd be good to go!
>>
>>- Bernie
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On 
>> > Behalf Of Ralph Droms
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:35 PM
>> > To: dhcwg@ietf.org
>> > Subject: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>> >
>> >
>> > We need to have a short WG conversation about two options 
>that were 
>> > discussed at the WG meeting in San Diego.  The outcome of the 
>> > conversation will be to determine consensus about taking on these 
>> > two
>> > drafts:
>> >
>> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv4-option-01.txt
>> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt
>> >
>> > as dhc WG work items or recommending that 3GPP2 define 
>> > vendor-identifying vendor-specific option (VIVSO; option code
>> > 125) sub-options to carry the information described in the drafts.
>> >
>> > If the WG consensus is to take on the drafts as WG work items 
>> > drafts, are they acceptable as currently published?
>> >
>> > Because of the time constraints imposed by the 3GPP2 schedule, I'm 
>> > going to cut off discussion on this topic next Thursday, 
>10/28, and 
>> > determine WG consensus at that time.
>> >
>> > Here are some considerations for discussion:
>> >
>> > 3GPP2 has defined some vendor-specific sub-options, for 
>example, to 
>> > identify a MIP home agent for the DHCP client.
>> >
>> > A 3GPP2 client needs to specify to the DHCP server which 
>parameters 
>> > it needs - specifically, whether it needs to receive the BCMCS 
>> > servers. If the current drafts are adopted, the client can simply 
>> > use the parameter request list option (option code 55) for the 
>> > request.  If a VIVSO sub-option is used, 3GPP2 would also define a 
>> > parameter request list sub-option.
>> >
>> > There is a deployment issue, as some service providers 
>already have 
>> > DHCP servers in place that must be updated for any new 
>options.  Is 
>> > it the case that the options defined in the current drafts can be 
>> > supported without code changes to existing servers?  Use 
>of a VIVSO 
>> > sub-option would require code changes to existing servers. 
> How long 
>> > would it take to deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO.
>> >
>> > BCMCS may be adopted across multiple technologies, so the 
>options in 
>> > the current drafts would not be specific to 3GPP2.  However, the 
>> > BCMCS specification has not adopted by other standards, yet, so we 
>> > may need to define additional options for related services in the 
>> > future if those services are not interoperable with the 
>3GPP2 BCMCS 
>> > service.
>> >
>> > CableLabs has one option with sub-options (RFC 3495) rather than 
>> > multiple options because:
>> > * wanted to avoid exhaustion of DHCP option code space; 
>perhaps less
>> >    of an issue with option code reclassification
>> > * would have used VIVSO if available
>> > * use of VIVSO with sub-options would give 3GPP2 freedom 
>to define new
>> >    sub-options on demand
>> > Do these considerations have an impact on our decision 
>about how to 
>> > proceed with the 3GPP2 options?
>> >
>> > - Ralph
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > dhcwg@ietf.org
>> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
>> >
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Hi:

I believe the original model was for OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to be similar =
to
DHCPv4 Vendor class identifier option (option 60) and for =
OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS
to be similar to DHCPv4 Vendor Specific Information (option 43).

You might refer to draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.txt, while for DHCPv4, it =
does
have some additional information about how the options might be used. =
That
work is modeled on the DHCPv6 options. In particular, see section 4:

4.  Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option

   DHCP clients and servers may use this option to exchange vendor-
   specific information.  Either party may send this option, as needed.
   While a typical case might be for a client to send the
   Vendor-Identifying Vendor Class option, to elicit a useful
   Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option, there is no
   requirement for such a flow.

It would be good to get general agreement on this as you're perhaps the
first user. And, it would be best to set a "standard" for others to =
follow.

I kind of liked the DHCPv4 model, as it is much easier and clearly to
understand (and implement for clients and servers):
- A Client includes OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to identify itself.
- A Client MAY include OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS if it has vendor specific data
(other than classing information) to communicate.
- A Server includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS for matching enterprise IDs (and
class data, if appropriate). This is only REQUIRED if the ORO includes =
the
OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS code (the ORO doesn't say which vendors; that is =
handled
by OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS).
- I'm not sure why a server would ever need to include =
OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS,
though perhaps it could tell the client what implementation the server =
is so
that perhaps the client knows it could use some extended capabilities? =
Or,
the server could send back whatever the client sent to it?

But, as draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.tx states, this is not the only =
possible
model.

Note that in your case, I would assume that the OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS =
would
have your enterprise ID and some class information to indicate what
capabilities the client supports (and therefore the server should =
provide
configuration for in the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS).

So, this is a good issue for the DHC WG to resolve and clarify for a =
future
RFC 3315bis.

- Bernie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org]=20
> On Behalf Of Kuntal Chowdhury
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:33 PM
> To: Ralph Droms; volz@cisco.com
> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>=20
>=20
> I have a few questions on the possible use of DHCPv6=20
> OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to request vendor=20
> specific info:
>=20
> 1. Since the enterprise number is included in=20
> OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS, will it suffice to use only this option=20
> in the information request message from the DHCP client? Is=20
> the use of OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS mandatory while vendor=20
> specific options are requested?
>=20
> 2. Does the mere inclusion of OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS in the=20
> information request message indicate to the DHCP server that=20
> the DHCP client is requesting for some specific vendor=20
> specific options?
>
> 3. O-R-O has the format where each of requested option codes=20
> are listed in it. However, in OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS the=20
> encapsulated vendor-specific options field MUST be encoded as=20
> a sequence of code/length/value fields. What value does the=20
> DHCP client use while requesting for a vendor specific option?=20
>=20
> These things are not clearly defined in RFC3315.
>=20
> Regards,
> Kuntal
>=20
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org]
> >On Behalf Of Ralph Droms
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:29 PM
> >To: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >
> >
> >
> >What about the deployment issue? The 3GGP2 specification will
> >be ratified in November, with deployment following soon.  Some=20
> >service providers already have DHCP servers in place that must=20
> >be updated for any new options.  The options defined in the=20
> >current drafts can likely be supported without code changes to=20
> >existing servers, allowing for faster deployment.  Use of a=20
> >VIVSO sub-option would require code changes to existing=20
> >servers.  How long would it take to deploy DHCP server that=20
> >can support VIVSO?
> >
> >BTW, we need more discussion of this issue *soon* due to the
> >time constraints of the upcoming 3GPP2 standards process and=20
> >deployment.
> >
> >- Ralph
> >
> >At 04:12 PM 10/21/2004 -0400, Bernie Volz wrote:
> >>Personally, I'd like to see the DHCPv4 VIVSO get deployed=20
> and pushing
> >>these options to using it would be a step at making this=20
> >happen (as one
> >>would expect 3GPP2 vendors to have some significant input to the
> >>decisions of DHCP server vendors).
> >>
> >>It also means that 3GPP2 is free to define other VIVSO=20
> options in the
> >>future within their own forum and need not go to the IETF=20
> >(and DHC WG).
> >>I suspect that this would provide much faster deployment for them in
> >>the future.
> >>
> >>Also, the DHCPv6 OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS
> >are already
> >>there for DHCPv6.
> >>
> >>BTW, 3GPP2 already has an enterprise-id number:
> >>
> >>5535
> >>   3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 (3GPP2)
> >>     Allen Long
> >>       along@cisco.com
> >>
> >>So, they'd be good to go!
> >>
> >>- Bernie
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >> > Behalf Of Ralph Droms
> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:35 PM
> >> > To: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >> > Subject: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > We need to have a short WG conversation about two options
> >that were
> >> > discussed at the WG meeting in San Diego.  The outcome of the
> >> > conversation will be to determine consensus about taking=20
> on these=20
> >> > two
> >> > drafts:
> >> >
> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv4-option-01.txt
> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt
> >> >
> >> > as dhc WG work items or recommending that 3GPP2 define
> >> > vendor-identifying vendor-specific option (VIVSO; option code
> >> > 125) sub-options to carry the information described in=20
> the drafts.
> >> >
> >> > If the WG consensus is to take on the drafts as WG work items
> >> > drafts, are they acceptable as currently published?
> >> >
> >> > Because of the time constraints imposed by the 3GPP2=20
> schedule, I'm
> >> > going to cut off discussion on this topic next Thursday,=20
> >10/28, and
> >> > determine WG consensus at that time.
> >> >
> >> > Here are some considerations for discussion:
> >> >
> >> > 3GPP2 has defined some vendor-specific sub-options, for
> >example, to
> >> > identify a MIP home agent for the DHCP client.
> >> >
> >> > A 3GPP2 client needs to specify to the DHCP server which
> >parameters
> >> > it needs - specifically, whether it needs to receive the BCMCS
> >> > servers. If the current drafts are adopted, the client=20
> can simply=20
> >> > use the parameter request list option (option code 55) for the=20
> >> > request.  If a VIVSO sub-option is used, 3GPP2 would=20
> also define a=20
> >> > parameter request list sub-option.
> >> >
> >> > There is a deployment issue, as some service providers
> >already have
> >> > DHCP servers in place that must be updated for any new
> >options.  Is
> >> > it the case that the options defined in the current drafts can be
> >> > supported without code changes to existing servers?  Use=20
> >of a VIVSO
> >> > sub-option would require code changes to existing servers.
> > How long
> >> > would it take to deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO.
> >> >
> >> > BCMCS may be adopted across multiple technologies, so the
> >options in
> >> > the current drafts would not be specific to 3GPP2.  However, the
> >> > BCMCS specification has not adopted by other standards,=20
> yet, so we=20
> >> > may need to define additional options for related=20
> services in the=20
> >> > future if those services are not interoperable with the=20
> >3GPP2 BCMCS
> >> > service.
> >> >
> >> > CableLabs has one option with sub-options (RFC 3495) rather than
> >> > multiple options because:
> >> > * wanted to avoid exhaustion of DHCP option code space;=20
> >perhaps less
> >> >    of an issue with option code reclassification
> >> > * would have used VIVSO if available
> >> > * use of VIVSO with sub-options would give 3GPP2 freedom
> >to define new
> >> >    sub-options on demand
> >> > Do these considerations have an impact on our decision
> >about how to
> >> > proceed with the 3GPP2 options?
> >> >
> >> > - Ralph
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > dhcwg mailing list
> >> > dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
> >> >
> >
> >
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>>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:03:31 +0200, 
>>>>> Grubmair Peter <peter.grubmair@siemens.com> said:

> If a statelesss dhcpv6 client receives a reply with
> preference option, it has to wait until retransmission
> timer expires to select reply highest preference.

Please let me check, which part of which RFC does specify this
behavior?

Thanks,

					JINMEI, Tatuya
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There's nothing I found in RFC 3315 that requires this. We were pretty =
clear
on what the SOLICIT behavior was, but weren't as clear in the
INFORMATION-REQUEST case.

I think you could go either way ... Follow the SOLICIT behavior and wait =
the
"first RT seconds" or take the first response. In the case where there =
is a
preference option and it specifies the highest preference (or where =
there is
no preference option), there would be no need to wait. If you wait, it =
is
only for 1 second based on the RFC specified values. I'd probably =
recommend
following the SOLICIT behavior.

- Bernie

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> >>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:03:31 +0200,
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> Please let me check, which part of which RFC does specify=20
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Hi bernie,
thank you for your reply,
I will use your proposal and
implement according 17.1.2 from RFC 3315.
best regards
  Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: Bernie Volz [mailto:volz@cisco.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2004 15:57
To: 'JINMEI Tatuya / =90_-=BE'B=8D=C6'; 'Grubmair Peter'
Cc: 'Dhcwg (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] retransmission timeout in stateless DHCPv6
andpreference option ?


There's nothing I found in RFC 3315 that requires this. We were pretty =
clear
on what the SOLICIT behavior was, but weren't as clear in the
INFORMATION-REQUEST case.

I think you could go either way ... Follow the SOLICIT behavior and =
wait the
"first RT seconds" or take the first response. In the case where there =
is a
preference option and it specifies the highest preference (or where =
there is
no preference option), there would be no need to wait. If you wait, it =
is
only for 1 second based on the RFC specified values. I'd probably =
recommend
following the SOLICIT behavior.

- Bernie

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> DHCPv6 andpreference option ?
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> >>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:03:31 +0200,
> >>>>> Grubmair Peter <peter.grubmair@siemens.com> said:
>=20
> > If a statelesss dhcpv6 client receives a reply with=20
> preference option,=20
> > it has to wait until retransmission timer expires to select reply=20
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Please be aware that, as of the most recent IETF 61 agenda
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scheduled to meet:

TUESDAY, November 9, 2004
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Hello Bernie,

Thanks for the response. I guess what is not clear to me is how a DHCP
client requests vendor specific information from the DHCP server:

"
- A Client includes OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to identify itself.
- A Client MAY include OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS if it has vendor specific data
(other than classing information) to communicate.
- A Server includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS for matching enterprise IDs (and
class data, if appropriate). This is only REQUIRED if the ORO includes the
OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS code (the ORO doesn't say which vendors; that is handled
by OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS).
"

Second bullet seems to say that the DHCP client includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS
to convey some vendor specific information to the DHCP server beside the
vendor class info (which is in OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS). It does not state that
OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS is included in a DHCP message (such as information
request) to REQUEST for vendor specific info from the server. It is true
that opcode for OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS can be included in ORO, but that won't
necessarily indicate to the server which vendor specific codes it needs to
return to the client. Also, the format of the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS when it
appears in the REQUEST message is unclear.

A clear description of how to use OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to request vendor
specific information (such as broadcast server address) will be required by
SDOs such as 3GPP2.

Regards,
Kuntal


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bernie Volz [mailto:volz@cisco.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:34 PM
>To: Chowdhury, Kuntal [RICH1:2H18:EXCH]; 'Ralph Droms'
>Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>
>
>Hi:
>
>I believe the original model was for OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to be 
>similar to DHCPv4 Vendor class identifier option (option 60) 
>and for OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to be similar to DHCPv4 Vendor 
>Specific Information (option 43).
>
>You might refer to draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.txt, while for 
>DHCPv4, it does have some additional information about how the 
>options might be used. That work is modeled on the DHCPv6 
>options. In particular, see section 4:
>
>4.  Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option
>
>   DHCP clients and servers may use this option to exchange vendor-
>   specific information.  Either party may send this option, as needed.
>   While a typical case might be for a client to send the
>   Vendor-Identifying Vendor Class option, to elicit a useful
>   Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option, there is no
>   requirement for such a flow.
>
>It would be good to get general agreement on this as you're 
>perhaps the first user. And, it would be best to set a 
>"standard" for others to follow.
>
>I kind of liked the DHCPv4 model, as it is much easier and 
>clearly to understand (and implement for clients and servers):
>- A Client includes OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to identify itself.
>- A Client MAY include OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS if it has vendor 
>specific data (other than classing information) to communicate.
>- A Server includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS for matching enterprise 
>IDs (and class data, if appropriate). This is only REQUIRED if 
>the ORO includes the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS code (the ORO doesn't 
>say which vendors; that is handled by OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS).
>- I'm not sure why a server would ever need to include 
>OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS, though perhaps it could tell the client 
>what implementation the server is so that perhaps the client 
>knows it could use some extended capabilities? Or, the server 
>could send back whatever the client sent to it?
>
>But, as draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.tx states, this is not the 
>only possible model.
>
>Note that in your case, I would assume that the 
>OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS would have your enterprise ID and some 
>class information to indicate what capabilities the client 
>supports (and therefore the server should provide 
>configuration for in the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS).
>
>So, this is a good issue for the DHC WG to resolve and clarify 
>for a future RFC 3315bis.
>
>- Bernie
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org]
>> On Behalf Of Kuntal Chowdhury
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:33 PM
>> To: Ralph Droms; volz@cisco.com
>> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
>> Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>> 
>> 
>> I have a few questions on the possible use of DHCPv6
>> OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to request vendor 
>> specific info:
>> 
>> 1. Since the enterprise number is included in
>> OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS, will it suffice to use only this option 
>> in the information request message from the DHCP client? Is 
>> the use of OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS mandatory while vendor 
>> specific options are requested?
>> 
>> 2. Does the mere inclusion of OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS in the
>> information request message indicate to the DHCP server that 
>> the DHCP client is requesting for some specific vendor 
>> specific options?
>>
>> 3. O-R-O has the format where each of requested option codes
>> are listed in it. However, in OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS the 
>> encapsulated vendor-specific options field MUST be encoded as 
>> a sequence of code/length/value fields. What value does the 
>> DHCP client use while requesting for a vendor specific option? 
>> 
>> These things are not clearly defined in RFC3315.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Kuntal
>> 
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On 
>> >Behalf Of Ralph Droms
>> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:29 PM
>> >To: dhcwg@ietf.org
>> >Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >What about the deployment issue? The 3GGP2 specification will be 
>> >ratified in November, with deployment following soon.  Some service 
>> >providers already have DHCP servers in place that must be 
>updated for 
>> >any new options.  The options defined in the current drafts can 
>> >likely be supported without code changes to existing servers, 
>> >allowing for faster deployment.  Use of a VIVSO sub-option would 
>> >require code changes to existing servers.  How long would 
>it take to 
>> >deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO?
>> >
>> >BTW, we need more discussion of this issue *soon* due to the time 
>> >constraints of the upcoming 3GPP2 standards process and deployment.
>> >
>> >- Ralph
>> >
>> >At 04:12 PM 10/21/2004 -0400, Bernie Volz wrote:
>> >>Personally, I'd like to see the DHCPv4 VIVSO get deployed
>> and pushing
>> >>these options to using it would be a step at making this
>> >happen (as one
>> >>would expect 3GPP2 vendors to have some significant input to the 
>> >>decisions of DHCP server vendors).
>> >>
>> >>It also means that 3GPP2 is free to define other VIVSO
>> options in the
>> >>future within their own forum and need not go to the IETF
>> >(and DHC WG).
>> >>I suspect that this would provide much faster deployment 
>for them in 
>> >>the future.
>> >>
>> >>Also, the DHCPv6 OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS
>> >are already
>> >>there for DHCPv6.
>> >>
>> >>BTW, 3GPP2 already has an enterprise-id number:
>> >>
>> >>5535
>> >>   3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 (3GPP2)
>> >>     Allen Long
>> >>       along@cisco.com
>> >>
>> >>So, they'd be good to go!
>> >>
>> >>- Bernie
>> >>
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On 
>> >> > Behalf Of Ralph Droms
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:35 PM
>> >> > To: dhcwg@ietf.org
>> >> > Subject: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > We need to have a short WG conversation about two options
>> >that were
>> >> > discussed at the WG meeting in San Diego.  The outcome of the 
>> >> > conversation will be to determine consensus about taking
>> on these
>> >> > two
>> >> > drafts:
>> >> >
>> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv4-option-01.txt
>> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt
>> >> >
>> >> > as dhc WG work items or recommending that 3GPP2 define 
>> >> > vendor-identifying vendor-specific option (VIVSO; option code
>> >> > 125) sub-options to carry the information described in
>> the drafts.
>> >> >
>> >> > If the WG consensus is to take on the drafts as WG work items 
>> >> > drafts, are they acceptable as currently published?
>> >> >
>> >> > Because of the time constraints imposed by the 3GPP2
>> schedule, I'm
>> >> > going to cut off discussion on this topic next Thursday,
>> >10/28, and
>> >> > determine WG consensus at that time.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here are some considerations for discussion:
>> >> >
>> >> > 3GPP2 has defined some vendor-specific sub-options, for
>> >example, to
>> >> > identify a MIP home agent for the DHCP client.
>> >> >
>> >> > A 3GPP2 client needs to specify to the DHCP server which
>> >parameters
>> >> > it needs - specifically, whether it needs to receive the BCMCS 
>> >> > servers. If the current drafts are adopted, the client
>> can simply
>> >> > use the parameter request list option (option code 55) for the
>> >> > request.  If a VIVSO sub-option is used, 3GPP2 would 
>> also define a
>> >> > parameter request list sub-option.
>> >> >
>> >> > There is a deployment issue, as some service providers
>> >already have
>> >> > DHCP servers in place that must be updated for any new
>> >options.  Is
>> >> > it the case that the options defined in the current 
>drafts can be 
>> >> > supported without code changes to existing servers?  Use
>> >of a VIVSO
>> >> > sub-option would require code changes to existing servers.
>> > How long
>> >> > would it take to deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO.
>> >> >
>> >> > BCMCS may be adopted across multiple technologies, so the
>> >options in
>> >> > the current drafts would not be specific to 3GPP2.  
>However, the 
>> >> > BCMCS specification has not adopted by other standards,
>> yet, so we
>> >> > may need to define additional options for related
>> services in the
>> >> > future if those services are not interoperable with the
>> >3GPP2 BCMCS
>> >> > service.
>> >> >
>> >> > CableLabs has one option with sub-options (RFC 3495) 
>rather than 
>> >> > multiple options because:
>> >> > * wanted to avoid exhaustion of DHCP option code space;
>> >perhaps less
>> >> >    of an issue with option code reclassification
>> >> > * would have used VIVSO if available
>> >> > * use of VIVSO with sub-options would give 3GPP2 freedom
>> >to define new
>> >> >    sub-options on demand
>> >> > Do these considerations have an impact on our decision
>> >about how to
>> >> > proceed with the 3GPP2 options?
>> >> >
>> >> > - Ralph
>> >> >
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>From posted agenda:

	DHCP Authentication via EAP Mark Stapp 10 minutes
	Technical discussion

It's been a while since we discussed this issue. Here is a relevant (now
expired) I-D, FYI:

http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-yegin-eap-boot-rfc3118-00.txt


Meanwhile, I'm wondering the status of
draft-ietf-dhc-v4-threat-analysis-02.

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Hi:

Good timing ... I just finished a conversation with Ralph on this issue.

Basically, Ralph feels that what comes in from the client *COULD* =
trigger
what goes back, but there's no requirement for this. And if there is a
trigger, it could be anything - it could be from OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS or
OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS or some other data (such as USER_CLASS, the link the
client is on, etc).

For example, in the 3GPP2 environment, it may well be that the DHCP(v6)
server is ONLY servicing 3GPP2 clients so it could be configured to =
*ALWAYS*
send back the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS regardless of what the client sends in.

Note that if the server sends back a OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS (or
OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS) with information that the client doesn't know about
(ie, enterprise ID isn't a known value), the client MUST ignore that =
data
(just like if it received an unknown option).

If this will be used in environments where it is known that all clients =
will
need this information, simply require the servers to be configured to =
send
it. A particular client that doesn't support the functionality will just
ignore the information.

If this will be used in mixed environments where many different client =
types
will exist, some which will never want this information (and there are =
good
reasons not to send it to them), you could define a mechanism to trigger =
a
server to send it. You might do this using a OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to, for
example, communicate that this is a 3GPP2 device interested in BCMCS
service. Or simply that is is a 3GPP2 device. You could also use the
OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to do this (client->server). But, even if you did =
this, a
server may still be configured to send it unconditionally.

- Bernie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kuntal Chowdhury [mailto:chowdury@nortelnetworks.com]=20
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 3:09 PM
> To: Bernie Volz; 'Ralph Droms'
> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>=20
>=20
> Hello Bernie,
>=20
> Thanks for the response. I guess what is not clear to me is=20
> how a DHCP client requests vendor specific information from=20
> the DHCP server:
>=20
> "
> - A Client includes OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to identify itself.
> - A Client MAY include OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS if it has vendor=20
> specific data (other than classing information) to communicate.
> - A Server includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS for matching=20
> enterprise IDs (and class data, if appropriate). This is only=20
> REQUIRED if the ORO includes the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS code (the=20
> ORO doesn't say which vendors; that is handled by=20
> OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS). "
>=20
> Second bullet seems to say that the DHCP client includes=20
> OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to convey some vendor specific information=20
> to the DHCP server beside the vendor class info (which is in=20
> OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS). It does not state that=20
> OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS is included in a DHCP message (such as information
> request) to REQUEST for vendor specific info from the server.=20
> It is true that opcode for OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS can be included=20
> in ORO, but that won't necessarily indicate to the server=20
> which vendor specific codes it needs to return to the client.=20
> Also, the format of the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS when it appears in=20
> the REQUEST message is unclear.
>=20
> A clear description of how to use OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to=20
> request vendor specific information (such as broadcast server=20
> address) will be required by SDOs such as 3GPP2.
>=20
> Regards,
> Kuntal
>=20
>=20
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Bernie Volz [mailto:volz@cisco.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:34 PM
> >To: Chowdhury, Kuntal [RICH1:2H18:EXCH]; 'Ralph Droms'
> >Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >
> >
> >Hi:
> >
> >I believe the original model was for OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to be
> >similar to DHCPv4 Vendor class identifier option (option 60)=20
> >and for OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to be similar to DHCPv4 Vendor=20
> >Specific Information (option 43).
> >
> >You might refer to draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.txt, while for
> >DHCPv4, it does have some additional information about how the=20
> >options might be used. That work is modeled on the DHCPv6=20
> >options. In particular, see section 4:
> >
> >4.  Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option
> >
> >   DHCP clients and servers may use this option to exchange vendor-
> >   specific information.  Either party may send this option,=20
> as needed.
> >   While a typical case might be for a client to send the
> >   Vendor-Identifying Vendor Class option, to elicit a useful
> >   Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option, there is no
> >   requirement for such a flow.
> >
> >It would be good to get general agreement on this as you're
> >perhaps the first user. And, it would be best to set a=20
> >"standard" for others to follow.
> >
> >I kind of liked the DHCPv4 model, as it is much easier and
> >clearly to understand (and implement for clients and servers):
> >- A Client includes OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to identify itself.
> >- A Client MAY include OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS if it has vendor=20
> >specific data (other than classing information) to communicate.
> >- A Server includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS for matching enterprise=20
> >IDs (and class data, if appropriate). This is only REQUIRED if=20
> >the ORO includes the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS code (the ORO doesn't=20
> >say which vendors; that is handled by OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS).
> >- I'm not sure why a server would ever need to include=20
> >OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS, though perhaps it could tell the client=20
> >what implementation the server is so that perhaps the client=20
> >knows it could use some extended capabilities? Or, the server=20
> >could send back whatever the client sent to it?
> >
> >But, as draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.tx states, this is not the
> >only possible model.
> >
> >Note that in your case, I would assume that the
> >OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS would have your enterprise ID and some=20
> >class information to indicate what capabilities the client=20
> >supports (and therefore the server should provide=20
> >configuration for in the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS).
> >
> >So, this is a good issue for the DHC WG to resolve and clarify
> >for a future RFC 3315bis.
> >
> >- Bernie
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On=20
> >> Behalf Of Kuntal Chowdhury
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:33 PM
> >> To: Ralph Droms; volz@cisco.com
> >> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >> Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> I have a few questions on the possible use of DHCPv6=20
> >> OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to request=20
> vendor specific=20
> >> info:
> >>=20
> >> 1. Since the enterprise number is included in OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS,=20
> >> will it suffice to use only this option in the information request=20
> >> message from the DHCP client? Is the use of OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS=20
> >> mandatory while vendor specific options are requested?
> >>=20
> >> 2. Does the mere inclusion of OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS in the=20
> information=20
> >> request message indicate to the DHCP server that the DHCP=20
> client is=20
> >> requesting for some specific vendor specific options?
> >>
> >> 3. O-R-O has the format where each of requested option codes are=20
> >> listed in it. However, in OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS the encapsulated=20
> >> vendor-specific options field MUST be encoded as a sequence of=20
> >> code/length/value fields. What value does the DHCP client=20
> use while=20
> >> requesting for a vendor specific option?
> >>=20
> >> These things are not clearly defined in RFC3315.
> >>=20
> >> Regards,
> >> Kuntal
> >>=20
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >> >Behalf Of Ralph Droms
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:29 PM
> >> >To: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >> >Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >What about the deployment issue? The 3GGP2 specification will be
> >> >ratified in November, with deployment following soon. =20
> Some service=20
> >> >providers already have DHCP servers in place that must be=20
> >updated for
> >> >any new options.  The options defined in the current drafts can
> >> >likely be supported without code changes to existing servers,=20
> >> >allowing for faster deployment.  Use of a VIVSO sub-option would=20
> >> >require code changes to existing servers.  How long would=20
> >it take to
> >> >deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO?
> >> >
> >> >BTW, we need more discussion of this issue *soon* due to the time
> >> >constraints of the upcoming 3GPP2 standards process and=20
> deployment.
> >> >
> >> >- Ralph
> >> >
> >> >At 04:12 PM 10/21/2004 -0400, Bernie Volz wrote:
> >> >>Personally, I'd like to see the DHCPv4 VIVSO get deployed
> >> and pushing
> >> >>these options to using it would be a step at making this
> >> >happen (as one
> >> >>would expect 3GPP2 vendors to have some significant input to the
> >> >>decisions of DHCP server vendors).
> >> >>
> >> >>It also means that 3GPP2 is free to define other VIVSO
> >> options in the
> >> >>future within their own forum and need not go to the IETF
> >> >(and DHC WG).
> >> >>I suspect that this would provide much faster deployment
> >for them in
> >> >>the future.
> >> >>
> >> >>Also, the DHCPv6 OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS
> >> >are already
> >> >>there for DHCPv6.
> >> >>
> >> >>BTW, 3GPP2 already has an enterprise-id number:
> >> >>
> >> >>5535
> >> >>   3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 (3GPP2)
> >> >>     Allen Long
> >> >>       along@cisco.com
> >> >>
> >> >>So, they'd be good to go!
> >> >>
> >> >>- Bernie
> >> >>
> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org=20
> [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >> >> > Behalf Of Ralph Droms
> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:35 PM
> >> >> > To: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >> >> > Subject: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We need to have a short WG conversation about two options
> >> >that were
> >> >> > discussed at the WG meeting in San Diego.  The outcome of the
> >> >> > conversation will be to determine consensus about taking
> >> on these
> >> >> > two
> >> >> > drafts:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv4-option-01.txt
> >> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt
> >> >> >
> >> >> > as dhc WG work items or recommending that 3GPP2 define
> >> >> > vendor-identifying vendor-specific option (VIVSO; option code
> >> >> > 125) sub-options to carry the information described in
> >> the drafts.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If the WG consensus is to take on the drafts as WG work items
> >> >> > drafts, are they acceptable as currently published?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Because of the time constraints imposed by the 3GPP2
> >> schedule, I'm
> >> >> > going to cut off discussion on this topic next Thursday,
> >> >10/28, and
> >> >> > determine WG consensus at that time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Here are some considerations for discussion:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 3GPP2 has defined some vendor-specific sub-options, for
> >> >example, to
> >> >> > identify a MIP home agent for the DHCP client.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > A 3GPP2 client needs to specify to the DHCP server which
> >> >parameters
> >> >> > it needs - specifically, whether it needs to receive the BCMCS
> >> >> > servers. If the current drafts are adopted, the client
> >> can simply
> >> >> > use the parameter request list option (option code=20
> 55) for the=20
> >> >> > request.  If a VIVSO sub-option is used, 3GPP2 would
> >> also define a
> >> >> > parameter request list sub-option.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is a deployment issue, as some service providers
> >> >already have
> >> >> > DHCP servers in place that must be updated for any new
> >> >options.  Is
> >> >> > it the case that the options defined in the current
> >drafts can be
> >> >> > supported without code changes to existing servers?  Use
> >> >of a VIVSO
> >> >> > sub-option would require code changes to existing servers.
> >> > How long
> >> >> > would it take to deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BCMCS may be adopted across multiple technologies, so the
> >> >options in
> >> >> > the current drafts would not be specific to 3GPP2.
> >However, the
> >> >> > BCMCS specification has not adopted by other standards,
> >> yet, so we
> >> >> > may need to define additional options for related
> >> services in the
> >> >> > future if those services are not interoperable with the
> >> >3GPP2 BCMCS
> >> >> > service.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > CableLabs has one option with sub-options (RFC 3495)
> >rather than
> >> >> > multiple options because:
> >> >> > * wanted to avoid exhaustion of DHCP option code space;
> >> >perhaps less
> >> >> >    of an issue with option code reclassification
> >> >> > * would have used VIVSO if available
> >> >> > * use of VIVSO with sub-options would give 3GPP2 freedom
> >> >to define new
> >> >> >    sub-options on demand
> >> >> > Do these considerations have an impact on our decision
> >> >about how to
> >> >> > proceed with the 3GPP2 options?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > - Ralph
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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Here is the latest draft agenda for the dhc WG meeting at IETF 61.

NOTE CHANGE OF DATE TO TUE, 2004-11-09!!!

- Ralph
                           DHC WG agenda - IETF 61
                       0900 Tue 2004-11-09 (tentative)
                      (Last revised 2004-10-28 05:25 PM)
                      ----------------------------------

Administrivia                                      Ralph Droms      10 minutes
   Agenda bashing; blue sheets; scribe; Jabber scribe
   Request for milestones for dhc WG drafts

DNS zone suffix option for DHCPv6                  Renxiang Yan     10 minutes
   <draft-yan-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-dnszone>
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

Reclassifying DHCPv4 Options                       TBD              10 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-reclassify-options>
   How to implement the process after RFC is published?

Vendor-Specific Information Suboption              Mark Stapp       10 minutes
   <draft-stapp-dhc-vendor-suboption>
   Ready for WG last call?

DHCP Authentication via EAP                        Mark Stapp       10 minutes
   Technical discussion

Lifetime Option for DHCPv6                         Stig Venaas      10 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime>
   Ready for WG last call?

Anycast Address Assignment using DHCPv6            Syam Madanapalli 10 minutes
   <draft-syam-dhc-ia-aa-opt>
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

Source Address Selection Policy option for DHCPv6  A. Matsumoto     10 minutes
   <draft-hirotaka-dhc-source-address-selection-opt>
   (available as 
http://www.nttv6.net/~arifumi/draft-hirotaka-dhc-source-address-selection-opt-00.txt)
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

DHCPv6 Relay Agent Information Option              Wing Cheong Lau  10 minutes
   <draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt>
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

DHCP-DNS interaction                               Bernie Volz      30 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-fqdn>
   <draft-ietf-dhc-fqdn-option>
   <draft-ietf-dhc-ddns-resolution>
   Technical discussion
                                                                    -----------
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Here is the latest draft agenda for the dhc WG meeting at IETF 61.

- Ralph

                           DHC WG agenda - IETF 61
                       0900 Tue 2004-11-09 (tentative)
                      (Last revised 2004-10-28 11:29 PM)
                      ----------------------------------

Administrivia                                      Ralph Droms      10 minutes
   Agenda bashing; blue sheets; scribe; Jabber scribe
   Request for milestones for dhc WG drafts

DNS zone suffix option for DHCPv6                  Renxiang Yan     10 minutes
   <draft-yan-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-dnszone>
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

Reclassifying DHCPv4 Options                       TBD              10 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-reclassify-options>
   How to implement the process after RFC is published?

Vendor-Specific Information Suboption              Mark Stapp       10 minutes
   <draft-stapp-dhc-vendor-suboption>
   Ready for WG last call?

DHCP Authentication via EAP                        Mark Stapp       10 minutes
   Technical discussion

Lifetime Option for DHCPv6                         Stig Venaas      10 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-lifetime>
   Ready for WG last call?

Anycast Address Assignment using DHCPv6            Syam Madanapalli 10 minutes
   <draft-syam-dhc-ia-aa-opt>
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

Source Address Selection Policy option for DHCPv6  T. Fujisaki      10 minutes
   <draft-hirotaka-dhc-source-address-selection-opt>
   (available as 
http://www.nttv6.net/~arifumi/draft-hirotaka-dhc-source-address-selection-opt-00.txt)
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

DHCPv6 Relay Agent Information Option              Wing Cheong Lau  10 minutes
   <draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt>
   Accept as dhc WG work item?

DHCP-DNS interaction                               Bernie Volz      30 minutes
   <draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-fqdn>
   <draft-ietf-dhc-fqdn-option>
   <draft-ietf-dhc-ddns-resolution>
   Technical discussion
                                                                    -----------
                                                                    120 minutes


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hi ralph, 
hi all,

the dhc agenda raised my interest. i would like to know more about

"
DHCP Authentication via EAP                        Mark Stapp       10
minutes
  Technical discussion
" 


ciao
hannes
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Droms [mailto:rdroms@cisco.com] 
> Sent: Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2004 17:33
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> Subject: [dhcwg] IMPORTANT!!! dhc WG meeting now Tue AM
> 
> Please be aware that, as of the most recent IETF 61 agenda 
> http://ietf.org/meetings/agenda_61.html (updated 10/27), the 
> dhc WG is now scheduled to meet:
> 
> TUESDAY, November 9, 2004
> 0900-1130 Morning Sessions
> 	INT 	dhc 	Dynamic Host Configuration WG *
> 	RTG 	mpls 	Multiprotocol LabelSwitching WG
> 	SEC 	btns 	Better-Than-Nothing Security BOF
> 	SEC 	ltans 	Long-Term Archive and Notary Services WG
> 	TSV 	ippm 	IP Performance Metrics WG
> 	TSV 	sipping Session Initiation Protocol WG
> 
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From: Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
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Kuntal - in both DHCPv4 and DHCPv6, there are no required semantic ties
between the message from the client to the server and the response from the
server.  That is, the client is not required to include any option request
information or vendor identification (I'm using general terms rather than
specific options because of the differences between DHCPv4 and DHCPv6) to
cause the server to send certain options or vendor-specific information back
to the client.  The server uses any option request information or vendor
identification or vendor-specific information as input ("hints") to the
rules the server uses to send a response to the client.  The server is free
to send information that has not been specifically requested by the client,
based on other information the server gleans from the message it receives
from the client.

So, in the DHCPv6 case, the client is not required to send an OPTION_ORO
requesting OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS (although it may do so) and the server, based
on other information, is free to send OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS.  In a 3GPP2
deployment, if the DHCPv6 server sees a request from a part of the network
topology known to be using 3GPP2, the server may assume that the device
sending the request is a 3GPP2 device and send 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to
that client.  And, if, for some reason, the client is not a 3GPP2 device,
the client can simply ignore the 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS.

The 3GPP2 standards bodies are free to define any syntax or semantics for
the 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS.  So, if 3GPP2 coule require that a client
sends a 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS request, which the server parses and
responds with 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS containing information for the client.


- Ralph


At 03:08 PM 10/28/2004 -0400, Kuntal Chowdhury wrote:
>Hello Bernie,
>
>Thanks for the response. I guess what is not clear to me is how a DHCP
>client requests vendor specific information from the DHCP server:
>
>"
>- A Client includes OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to identify itself.
>- A Client MAY include OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS if it has vendor specific data
>(other than classing information) to communicate.
>- A Server includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS for matching enterprise IDs (and
>class data, if appropriate). This is only REQUIRED if the ORO includes the
>OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS code (the ORO doesn't say which vendors; that is handled
>by OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS).
>"
>
>Second bullet seems to say that the DHCP client includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS
>to convey some vendor specific information to the DHCP server beside the
>vendor class info (which is in OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS). It does not state that
>OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS is included in a DHCP message (such as information
>request) to REQUEST for vendor specific info from the server. It is true
>that opcode for OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS can be included in ORO, but that won't
>necessarily indicate to the server which vendor specific codes it needs to
>return to the client. Also, the format of the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS when it
>appears in the REQUEST message is unclear.
>
>A clear description of how to use OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to request vendor
>specific information (such as broadcast server address) will be required by
>SDOs such as 3GPP2.
>
>Regards,
>Kuntal
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Bernie Volz [mailto:volz@cisco.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:34 PM
> >To: Chowdhury, Kuntal [RICH1:2H18:EXCH]; 'Ralph Droms'
> >Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >
> >
> >Hi:
> >
> >I believe the original model was for OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to be
> >similar to DHCPv4 Vendor class identifier option (option 60)
> >and for OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to be similar to DHCPv4 Vendor
> >Specific Information (option 43).
> >
> >You might refer to draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.txt, while for
> >DHCPv4, it does have some additional information about how the
> >options might be used. That work is modeled on the DHCPv6
> >options. In particular, see section 4:
> >
> >4.  Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option
> >
> >   DHCP clients and servers may use this option to exchange vendor-
> >   specific information.  Either party may send this option, as needed.
> >   While a typical case might be for a client to send the
> >   Vendor-Identifying Vendor Class option, to elicit a useful
> >   Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option, there is no
> >   requirement for such a flow.
> >
> >It would be good to get general agreement on this as you're
> >perhaps the first user. And, it would be best to set a
> >"standard" for others to follow.
> >
> >I kind of liked the DHCPv4 model, as it is much easier and
> >clearly to understand (and implement for clients and servers):
> >- A Client includes OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to identify itself.
> >- A Client MAY include OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS if it has vendor
> >specific data (other than classing information) to communicate.
> >- A Server includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS for matching enterprise
> >IDs (and class data, if appropriate). This is only REQUIRED if
> >the ORO includes the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS code (the ORO doesn't
> >say which vendors; that is handled by OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS).
> >- I'm not sure why a server would ever need to include
> >OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS, though perhaps it could tell the client
> >what implementation the server is so that perhaps the client
> >knows it could use some extended capabilities? Or, the server
> >could send back whatever the client sent to it?
> >
> >But, as draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.tx states, this is not the
> >only possible model.
> >
> >Note that in your case, I would assume that the
> >OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS would have your enterprise ID and some
> >class information to indicate what capabilities the client
> >supports (and therefore the server should provide
> >configuration for in the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS).
> >
> >So, this is a good issue for the DHC WG to resolve and clarify
> >for a future RFC 3315bis.
> >
> >- Bernie
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Kuntal Chowdhury
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:33 PM
> >> To: Ralph Droms; volz@cisco.com
> >> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >> Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >>
> >>
> >> I have a few questions on the possible use of DHCPv6
> >> OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to request vendor
> >> specific info:
> >>
> >> 1. Since the enterprise number is included in
> >> OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS, will it suffice to use only this option
> >> in the information request message from the DHCP client? Is
> >> the use of OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS mandatory while vendor
> >> specific options are requested?
> >>
> >> 2. Does the mere inclusion of OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS in the
> >> information request message indicate to the DHCP server that
> >> the DHCP client is requesting for some specific vendor
> >> specific options?
> >>
> >> 3. O-R-O has the format where each of requested option codes
> >> are listed in it. However, in OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS the
> >> encapsulated vendor-specific options field MUST be encoded as
> >> a sequence of code/length/value fields. What value does the
> >> DHCP client use while requesting for a vendor specific option?
> >>
> >> These things are not clearly defined in RFC3315.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Kuntal
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >> >Behalf Of Ralph Droms
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:29 PM
> >> >To: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >> >Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >What about the deployment issue? The 3GGP2 specification will be
> >> >ratified in November, with deployment following soon.  Some service
> >> >providers already have DHCP servers in place that must be
> >updated for
> >> >any new options.  The options defined in the current drafts can
> >> >likely be supported without code changes to existing servers,
> >> >allowing for faster deployment.  Use of a VIVSO sub-option would
> >> >require code changes to existing servers.  How long would
> >it take to
> >> >deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO?
> >> >
> >> >BTW, we need more discussion of this issue *soon* due to the time
> >> >constraints of the upcoming 3GPP2 standards process and deployment.
> >> >
> >> >- Ralph
> >> >
> >> >At 04:12 PM 10/21/2004 -0400, Bernie Volz wrote:
> >> >>Personally, I'd like to see the DHCPv4 VIVSO get deployed
> >> and pushing
> >> >>these options to using it would be a step at making this
> >> >happen (as one
> >> >>would expect 3GPP2 vendors to have some significant input to the
> >> >>decisions of DHCP server vendors).
> >> >>
> >> >>It also means that 3GPP2 is free to define other VIVSO
> >> options in the
> >> >>future within their own forum and need not go to the IETF
> >> >(and DHC WG).
> >> >>I suspect that this would provide much faster deployment
> >for them in
> >> >>the future.
> >> >>
> >> >>Also, the DHCPv6 OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS
> >> >are already
> >> >>there for DHCPv6.
> >> >>
> >> >>BTW, 3GPP2 already has an enterprise-id number:
> >> >>
> >> >>5535
> >> >>   3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 (3GPP2)
> >> >>     Allen Long
> >> >>       along@cisco.com
> >> >>
> >> >>So, they'd be good to go!
> >> >>
> >> >>- Bernie
> >> >>
> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >> >> > Behalf Of Ralph Droms
> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:35 PM
> >> >> > To: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >> >> > Subject: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We need to have a short WG conversation about two options
> >> >that were
> >> >> > discussed at the WG meeting in San Diego.  The outcome of the
> >> >> > conversation will be to determine consensus about taking
> >> on these
> >> >> > two
> >> >> > drafts:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv4-option-01.txt
> >> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt
> >> >> >
> >> >> > as dhc WG work items or recommending that 3GPP2 define
> >> >> > vendor-identifying vendor-specific option (VIVSO; option code
> >> >> > 125) sub-options to carry the information described in
> >> the drafts.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If the WG consensus is to take on the drafts as WG work items
> >> >> > drafts, are they acceptable as currently published?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Because of the time constraints imposed by the 3GPP2
> >> schedule, I'm
> >> >> > going to cut off discussion on this topic next Thursday,
> >> >10/28, and
> >> >> > determine WG consensus at that time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Here are some considerations for discussion:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 3GPP2 has defined some vendor-specific sub-options, for
> >> >example, to
> >> >> > identify a MIP home agent for the DHCP client.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > A 3GPP2 client needs to specify to the DHCP server which
> >> >parameters
> >> >> > it needs - specifically, whether it needs to receive the BCMCS
> >> >> > servers. If the current drafts are adopted, the client
> >> can simply
> >> >> > use the parameter request list option (option code 55) for the
> >> >> > request.  If a VIVSO sub-option is used, 3GPP2 would
> >> also define a
> >> >> > parameter request list sub-option.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is a deployment issue, as some service providers
> >> >already have
> >> >> > DHCP servers in place that must be updated for any new
> >> >options.  Is
> >> >> > it the case that the options defined in the current
> >drafts can be
> >> >> > supported without code changes to existing servers?  Use
> >> >of a VIVSO
> >> >> > sub-option would require code changes to existing servers.
> >> > How long
> >> >> > would it take to deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BCMCS may be adopted across multiple technologies, so the
> >> >options in
> >> >> > the current drafts would not be specific to 3GPP2.
> >However, the
> >> >> > BCMCS specification has not adopted by other standards,
> >> yet, so we
> >> >> > may need to define additional options for related
> >> services in the
> >> >> > future if those services are not interoperable with the
> >> >3GPP2 BCMCS
> >> >> > service.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > CableLabs has one option with sub-options (RFC 3495)
> >rather than
> >> >> > multiple options because:
> >> >> > * wanted to avoid exhaustion of DHCP option code space;
> >> >perhaps less
> >> >> >    of an issue with option code reclassification
> >> >> > * would have used VIVSO if available
> >> >> > * use of VIVSO with sub-options would give 3GPP2 freedom
> >> >to define new
> >> >> >    sub-options on demand
> >> >> > Do these considerations have an impact on our decision
> >> >about how to
> >> >> > proceed with the 3GPP2 options?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > - Ralph
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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A few questions on this draft:

1. The primary motivation seems to be 3GPP2's network, but fact of the
matter is, 3GPP2 NAS (PDSN) does not push information received from a
different domain into the DHCP server in the local domain.

2. The draft allows vendor specific RADIUS attributes to be pushed to the
DHCP server potentially from different domains. How does the DHCP sever
parse these vendor specific RADIUS attributes? Is it the assumption that the
DHCP server needs to know possibly all vendor specific RADIUS attributes?
This does not scale.

3. It says that the DHCP server uses this RADIUS info to do IP address
allocation and other parameter allocation. It would be nice to know what
other parameters the authors have in mind.

Regards,
Kuntal


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Subject: RE: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and
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At 10:11 AM 10/25/2004, Bernie Volz wrote:



BTW, we don't need a DHCPv6 version of
draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-suboption-00.txt because the existing DHCPv6 Vendor
options can be used by the Relay Agent just fine. Again, it is WHERE these
options appear that indicates whether they are for the client (in the client
part of the message) or the relay, in the Relay-Forw or Relay-Reply part of
the message. That work is already done and is not needed!!
 
- Bernie



I see. However,  the use of such vendor-options by the Relay Agent is kind
of hidden/missing from the current text of RFC 3315.
For example, Sections  22.16 and 22.17 of RFC 3315 only describe the use of
such vendor options by the client and the server. The use of these options
by the relay agent are not mentioned at all. 

While it is true that the table in Appendix A of RFC3315
does say the possible inclusion of the vendor options in the
Relay-Forward/Relay-Reply message,  
the table in Appendix B seems to imply otherwise: 

In the table in Appendix B,  while there are  "*"'s  for the  Relay-Message
and Interface ID rows under
the Relay Forw./Relay Replay columns,  no "*"'s are found  for the Vendor
Class/Vendor Info rows for
the Relay Forw./Relay Replay columns. I think if Relay agent is allowed to
include those vendor options in the
Relay Forw/Replay messages, just like it includes the Interface option,  
the rows for the  Vendor options should look like the row of  the Interface
option.

Am I missing something ? or did I misunderstand the entire meaning of the
table in Appendix B ?
Actually, what does the "Option Field" column in the table mean ?

Also what's the "Note" below the table refers to ?

Would you share more clarification/ insights on this ?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Regards,

Wing 

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At 09:43 AM 10/29/2004, you wrote:
>A few questions on this draft:
>
>1. The primary motivation seems to be 3GPP2's network, but fact of the
>matter is, 3GPP2 NAS (PDSN) does not push information received from a
>different domain into the DHCP server in the local domain.

Yes. That is the status quo. But the intent of the internet draft is to keep
the possibility of such protocol support for roaming mobile scenario in the 
future.
Of course, as clearly stated in the current draft regarding it's 
applicability and
security implication need to be considered. In particular:

"The scope of applicability of this specification is such that the NAS
    (which acts as a DHCP relay agent), any other participating DHCP
    relay agent, the DHCP server and DHCP client should be within the
    same administrative domain while the RADIUS service involved may span
    multiple administrative domains. See the Section 5 for details of
    security considerations when this specification is deployed with
    RADIUS service operating across multiple administrative domains.
    Global interoperability of this specification, across arbitrary
    administrative domains, is not supported. "

and

"The RADIUS protocol [6] was designed for intra-domain use, where the
    NAS, proxy, and home server exist within a single administrative
    domain, and proxies may be considered a trusted component. However,
    under roaming situation, the NAS, proxies, and home server will
    typically be managed by different administrative entities. As a
    result, inter-domain RADIUS operations are inherently required for
    roaming applications, and proxies cannot necessarily be trusted.
    Refer to Section 7 of RFC 2609 for a detailed security threat
    analysis, limitations and precautions of operating RADIUS in a inter-
    domain environment. In general, robust and secure operations of
    RADIUS across multiple administrative domains require pre-established
    agreement, mutual trust, and secure communications channel amongst
    all the participating domains."

Inter-domain RADIUS operations have its well-known
set of risks and limitations and any future applications of the proposed 
options
in an cross-domain environment would be subjected to such considerations.



>2. The draft allows vendor specific RADIUS attributes to be pushed to the
>DHCP server potentially from different domains. How does the DHCP sever
>parse these vendor specific RADIUS attributes? Is it the assumption that the
>DHCP server needs to know possibly all vendor specific RADIUS attributes?
>This does not scale.
In general, as specified in the draft, the DHCP server "MAY" use the 
information carried in the proposed option as a HINT to make the subsequent 
assignment. If  the DHCP server does not
understand a particular vendor-specific option/VSA, it is free to ignore it 
when making its
assignment. On the other hand, given a specific deployment environment, it 
is not unreasonable to
assume the DHCP server would understand a particular set of 
vendor-specific, e.g. 3GPP2, RADIUS VSA's. After all, as stated in the 
applicability statement above, we are not talking about cross-domain RADIUS 
services over any arbitrary domain, but only over those which have some 
sort of pre-established roaming agreements.


>3. It says that the DHCP server uses this RADIUS info to do IP address
>allocation and other parameter allocation. It would be nice to know what
>other parameters the authors have in mind.
>
>Regards,
>Kuntal
Parameters under considerations included Home Agent address, (for dynamic 
HA assignment),
Home Address (HoA) and/or Home-link prefix, etc.

In fact, my understanding is that, for a single
domain environment, RADIUS 3GPP2 VSA's have already been defined for these 
set of
parameters to enable MIP6 bootstrapping  via RADIUS/DHCPv6 within a single 
domain.

If the risks/limitations of cross-domain RADIUS service stated above  are 
deemed to be acceptable,
there is a possibility that such bootstrapping scheme can be extended 
across providers with
pre-established roaming agreements.

Regards,

Wing 
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At 09:43 AM 10/29/2004, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>A few questions on this
draft:<br><br>
1. The primary motivation seems to be 3GPP2's network, but fact of
the<br>
matter is, 3GPP2 NAS (PDSN) does not push information received from
a<br>
different domain into the DHCP server in the local
domain.</blockquote><br>
Yes. That is the status quo. But the intent of the internet draft is to
keep <br>
the possibility of such protocol support for roaming mobile scenario in
the future.&nbsp; <br>
Of course, as clearly stated in the current draft regarding it's
applicability and <br>
security implication need to be considered. In particular:<br><br>
&quot;<font face="Courier New, Courier">The scope of applicability of
this specification is such that the NAS <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; (which acts as a DHCP relay agent), any other participating
DHCP <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; relay agent, the DHCP server and DHCP client should be
within the <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; same administrative domain while the RADIUS service involved
may span <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; multiple administrative domains. See the Section 5 for
details of <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; security considerations when this specification is deployed
with <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; RADIUS service operating across multiple administrative
domains. <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Global interoperability of this specification, across
arbitrary <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; administrative domains, is not supported. &quot;<br><br>
</font>and<br><br>
&quot;<font face="Courier New, Courier">The RADIUS protocol [6] was
designed for intra-domain use, where the <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; NAS, proxy, and home server exist within a single
administrative <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; domain, and proxies may be considered a trusted component.
However, <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; under roaming situation, the NAS, proxies, and home server
will <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; typically be managed by different administrative entities.
As a <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; result, inter-domain RADIUS operations are inherently
required for <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; roaming applications, and proxies cannot necessarily be
trusted.&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Refer to Section 7 of RFC 2609 for a detailed security
threat <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; analysis, limitations and precautions of operating RADIUS in
a inter-<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; domain environment. In general, robust and secure operations
of <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; RADIUS across multiple administrative domains require
pre-established <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; agreement, mutual trust, and secure communications channel
amongst <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; all the participating domains.&quot;<br><br>
</font>Inter-domain RADIUS operations have its well-known<br>
set of risks and limitations and any future applications of the proposed
options<br>
in an cross-domain environment would be subjected to such
considerations.&nbsp; <br><br>
<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>2. The draft allows vendor specific
RADIUS attributes to be pushed to the<br>
DHCP server potentially from different domains. How does the DHCP
sever<br>
parse these vendor specific RADIUS attributes? Is it the assumption that
the<br>
DHCP server needs to know possibly all vendor specific RADIUS
attributes?<br>
This does not scale.<br>
</blockquote>In general, as specified in the draft, the DHCP server
&quot;MAY&quot; use the information carried in the proposed option as a
HINT to make the subsequent assignment. If&nbsp; the DHCP server does
not<br>
understand a particular vendor-specific option/VSA, it is free to ignore
it when making its<br>
assignment. On the other hand, given a specific deployment environment,
it is not unreasonable to<br>
assume the DHCP server would understand a particular set of
vendor-specific, e.g. 3GPP2, RADIUS VSA's. After all, as stated in the
applicability statement above, we are not talking about cross-domain
RADIUS services over any arbitrary domain, but only over those which have
some sort of pre-established roaming agreements.<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>3. It says that the DHCP server
uses this RADIUS info to do IP address<br>
allocation and other parameter allocation. It would be nice to know
what<br>
other parameters the authors have in mind.<br><br>
Regards,<br>
Kuntal<br>
</blockquote>Parameters under considerations included Home Agent address,
(for dynamic HA assignment),<br>
Home Address (HoA) and/or Home-link prefix, etc. <br><br>
In fact, my understanding is that, for a single<br>
domain environment, RADIUS 3GPP2 VSA's have already been defined for
these set of <br>
parameters to enable MIP6 bootstrapping&nbsp; via RADIUS/DHCPv6 within a
single domain.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
If the risks/limitations of cross-domain RADIUS service stated
above&nbsp; are deemed to be acceptable,<br>
there is a possibility that such bootstrapping scheme can be extended
across providers with<br>
pre-established roaming agreements. <br><br>
Regards,<br><br>
Wing</body>
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From: "Kuntal Chowdhury" <chowdury@nortelnetworks.com>
To: Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com>
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Hello Ralph,

>The 3GPP2 standards bodies are free to define any syntax or 
>semantics for the 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS.  So, if 3GPP2 
>coule require that a client sends a 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS 
>request, which the server parses and responds with 3GPP2 
>OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS containing information for the client.

If I understand what your are saying, the semantics to request/respond
vendor specific information should also be vendor specific. I guess this is
well understood to the DHCP implementers. It was not clear to me when I read
RFC 3115.

The syntax of OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS is defined in 3315:

"
   The encapsulated vendor-specific options field MUST be encoded as a
   sequence of code/length/value fields of identical format to the DHCP
   options field.  The option codes are defined by the vendor identified
   in the enterprise-number field and are not managed by IANA.  Each of
   the encapsulated options is formatted as follows:

       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |          opt-code             |             option-len        |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      .                                                               .
      .                          option-data                          .
      .                                                               .
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
"

So, I don't understand your statement "3GPP2 is free to define the syntax of
OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS".  The syntax of OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS when it appears in a
request message from the client is not clear. 

The suggested behavior of a 3GPP2 DHCP server sending all 3GPP2 specific
information to the client (blindly) is not an ideal one. The approach where
the client sends specific information request and the server returns the
requested information only is a better one, IMHO.

-Kuntal

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ralph Droms [mailto:rdroms@cisco.com] 
>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:49 AM
>To: Chowdhury, Kuntal [RICH1:2H18:EXCH]
>Cc: Bernie Volz; dhcwg@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>
>
>Kuntal - in both DHCPv4 and DHCPv6, there are no required 
>semantic ties between the message from the client to the 
>server and the response from the server.  That is, the client 
>is not required to include any option request information or 
>vendor identification (I'm using general terms rather than 
>specific options because of the differences between DHCPv4 and 
>DHCPv6) to cause the server to send certain options or 
>vendor-specific information back to the client.  The server 
>uses any option request information or vendor identification 
>or vendor-specific information as input ("hints") to the rules 
>the server uses to send a response to the client.  The server 
>is free to send information that has not been specifically 
>requested by the client, based on other information the server 
>gleans from the message it receives from the client.
>
>So, in the DHCPv6 case, the client is not required to send an 
>OPTION_ORO requesting OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS (although it may do 
>so) and the server, based on other information, is free to 
>send OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS.  In a 3GPP2 deployment, if the DHCPv6 
>server sees a request from a part of the network topology 
>known to be using 3GPP2, the server may assume that the device 
>sending the request is a 3GPP2 device and send 3GPP2 
>OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to that client.  And, if, for some reason, 
>the client is not a 3GPP2 device, the client can simply ignore 
>the 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS.
>
>The 3GPP2 standards bodies are free to define any syntax or 
>semantics for the 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS.  So, if 3GPP2 
>coule require that a client sends a 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS 
>request, which the server parses and responds with 3GPP2 
>OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS containing information for the client.
>
>
>- Ralph
>
>
>At 03:08 PM 10/28/2004 -0400, Kuntal Chowdhury wrote:
>>Hello Bernie,
>>
>>Thanks for the response. I guess what is not clear to me is 
>how a DHCP 
>>client requests vendor specific information from the DHCP server:
>>
>>"
>>- A Client includes OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to identify itself.
>>- A Client MAY include OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS if it has vendor specific 
>>data (other than classing information) to communicate.
>>- A Server includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS for matching 
>enterprise IDs (and 
>>class data, if appropriate). This is only REQUIRED if the ORO 
>includes 
>>the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS code (the ORO doesn't say which 
>vendors; that is 
>>handled by OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS). "
>>
>>Second bullet seems to say that the DHCP client includes 
>>OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to convey some vendor specific information to the 
>>DHCP server beside the vendor class info (which is in 
>>OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS). It does not state that OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS is 
>>included in a DHCP message (such as information
>>request) to REQUEST for vendor specific info from the server. 
>It is true
>>that opcode for OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS can be included in ORO, 
>but that won't
>>necessarily indicate to the server which vendor specific 
>codes it needs to
>>return to the client. Also, the format of the 
>OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS when it
>>appears in the REQUEST message is unclear.
>>
>>A clear description of how to use OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to 
>request vendor 
>>specific information (such as broadcast server address) will be 
>>required by SDOs such as 3GPP2.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Kuntal
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Bernie Volz [mailto:volz@cisco.com]
>> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:34 PM
>> >To: Chowdhury, Kuntal [RICH1:2H18:EXCH]; 'Ralph Droms'
>> >Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
>> >Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>> >
>> >
>> >Hi:
>> >
>> >I believe the original model was for OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to be 
>> >similar to DHCPv4 Vendor class identifier option (option 
>60) and for 
>> >OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to be similar to DHCPv4 Vendor Specific 
>> >Information (option 43).
>> >
>> >You might refer to draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.txt, while for 
>DHCPv4, it 
>> >does have some additional information about how the options 
>might be 
>> >used. That work is modeled on the DHCPv6 options. In 
>particular, see 
>> >section 4:
>> >
>> >4.  Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option
>> >
>> >   DHCP clients and servers may use this option to exchange vendor-
>> >   specific information.  Either party may send this 
>option, as needed.
>> >   While a typical case might be for a client to send the
>> >   Vendor-Identifying Vendor Class option, to elicit a useful
>> >   Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option, 
>there is no
>> >   requirement for such a flow.
>> >
>> >It would be good to get general agreement on this as you're perhaps 
>> >the first user. And, it would be best to set a "standard" 
>for others 
>> >to follow.
>> >
>> >I kind of liked the DHCPv4 model, as it is much easier and 
>clearly to 
>> >understand (and implement for clients and servers):
>> >- A Client includes OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to identify itself.
>> >- A Client MAY include OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS if it has vendor specific 
>> >data (other than classing information) to communicate.
>> >- A Server includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS for matching enterprise IDs 
>> >(and class data, if appropriate). This is only REQUIRED if the ORO 
>> >includes the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS code (the ORO doesn't say which 
>> >vendors; that is handled by OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS).
>> >- I'm not sure why a server would ever need to include 
>> >OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS, though perhaps it could tell the client what 
>> >implementation the server is so that perhaps the client knows it 
>> >could use some extended capabilities? Or, the server could 
>send back 
>> >whatever the client sent to it?
>> >
>> >But, as draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.tx states, this is not the only 
>> >possible model.
>> >
>> >Note that in your case, I would assume that the OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS 
>> >would have your enterprise ID and some class information to 
>indicate 
>> >what capabilities the client supports (and therefore the server 
>> >should provide configuration for in the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS).
>> >
>> >So, this is a good issue for the DHC WG to resolve and 
>clarify for a 
>> >future RFC 3315bis.
>> >
>> >- Bernie
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On 
>> >> Behalf Of Kuntal Chowdhury
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:33 PM
>> >> To: Ralph Droms; volz@cisco.com
>> >> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
>> >> Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have a few questions on the possible use of DHCPv6 
>> >> OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to request vendor 
>> >> specific info:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Since the enterprise number is included in OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS, 
>> >> will it suffice to use only this option in the 
>information request 
>> >> message from the DHCP client? Is the use of OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS 
>> >> mandatory while vendor specific options are requested?
>> >>
>> >> 2. Does the mere inclusion of OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS in the 
>information 
>> >> request message indicate to the DHCP server that the DHCP 
>client is 
>> >> requesting for some specific vendor specific options?
>> >>
>> >> 3. O-R-O has the format where each of requested option codes are 
>> >> listed in it. However, in OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS the encapsulated 
>> >> vendor-specific options field MUST be encoded as a sequence of 
>> >> code/length/value fields. What value does the DHCP client 
>use while 
>> >> requesting for a vendor specific option?
>> >>
>> >> These things are not clearly defined in RFC3315.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Kuntal
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On 
>> >> >Behalf Of Ralph Droms
>> >> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:29 PM
>> >> >To: dhcwg@ietf.org
>> >> >Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >What about the deployment issue? The 3GGP2 specification will be 
>> >> >ratified in November, with deployment following soon.  Some 
>> >> >service providers already have DHCP servers in place that must be
>> >updated for
>> >> >any new options.  The options defined in the current drafts can 
>> >> >likely be supported without code changes to existing servers, 
>> >> >allowing for faster deployment.  Use of a VIVSO sub-option would 
>> >> >require code changes to existing servers.  How long would
>> >it take to
>> >> >deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO?
>> >> >
>> >> >BTW, we need more discussion of this issue *soon* due to 
>the time 
>> >> >constraints of the upcoming 3GPP2 standards process and 
>> >> >deployment.
>> >> >
>> >> >- Ralph
>> >> >
>> >> >At 04:12 PM 10/21/2004 -0400, Bernie Volz wrote:
>> >> >>Personally, I'd like to see the DHCPv4 VIVSO get deployed
>> >> and pushing
>> >> >>these options to using it would be a step at making this
>> >> >happen (as one
>> >> >>would expect 3GPP2 vendors to have some significant 
>input to the 
>> >> >>decisions of DHCP server vendors).
>> >> >>
>> >> >>It also means that 3GPP2 is free to define other VIVSO
>> >> options in the
>> >> >>future within their own forum and need not go to the IETF
>> >> >(and DHC WG).
>> >> >>I suspect that this would provide much faster deployment
>> >for them in
>> >> >>the future.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Also, the DHCPv6 OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS
>> >> >are already
>> >> >>there for DHCPv6.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>BTW, 3GPP2 already has an enterprise-id number:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>5535
>> >> >>   3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 (3GPP2)
>> >> >>     Allen Long
>> >> >>       along@cisco.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >>So, they'd be good to go!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>- Bernie
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> > From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] 
>> >> >> > On Behalf Of Ralph Droms
>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:35 PM
>> >> >> > To: dhcwg@ietf.org
>> >> >> > Subject: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We need to have a short WG conversation about two options
>> >> >that were
>> >> >> > discussed at the WG meeting in San Diego.  The 
>outcome of the 
>> >> >> > conversation will be to determine consensus about taking
>> >> on these
>> >> >> > two
>> >> >> > drafts:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv4-option-01.txt
>> >> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > as dhc WG work items or recommending that 3GPP2 define 
>> >> >> > vendor-identifying vendor-specific option (VIVSO; option code
>> >> >> > 125) sub-options to carry the information described in
>> >> the drafts.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If the WG consensus is to take on the drafts as WG 
>work items 
>> >> >> > drafts, are they acceptable as currently published?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Because of the time constraints imposed by the 3GPP2
>> >> schedule, I'm
>> >> >> > going to cut off discussion on this topic next Thursday,
>> >> >10/28, and
>> >> >> > determine WG consensus at that time.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Here are some considerations for discussion:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 3GPP2 has defined some vendor-specific sub-options, for
>> >> >example, to
>> >> >> > identify a MIP home agent for the DHCP client.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > A 3GPP2 client needs to specify to the DHCP server which
>> >> >parameters
>> >> >> > it needs - specifically, whether it needs to receive 
>the BCMCS 
>> >> >> > servers. If the current drafts are adopted, the client
>> >> can simply
>> >> >> > use the parameter request list option (option code 
>55) for the 
>> >> >> > request.  If a VIVSO sub-option is used, 3GPP2 would
>> >> also define a
>> >> >> > parameter request list sub-option.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > There is a deployment issue, as some service providers
>> >> >already have
>> >> >> > DHCP servers in place that must be updated for any new
>> >> >options.  Is
>> >> >> > it the case that the options defined in the current
>> >drafts can be
>> >> >> > supported without code changes to existing servers?  Use
>> >> >of a VIVSO
>> >> >> > sub-option would require code changes to existing servers.
>> >> > How long
>> >> >> > would it take to deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > BCMCS may be adopted across multiple technologies, so the
>> >> >options in
>> >> >> > the current drafts would not be specific to 3GPP2.
>> >However, the
>> >> >> > BCMCS specification has not adopted by other standards,
>> >> yet, so we
>> >> >> > may need to define additional options for related
>> >> services in the
>> >> >> > future if those services are not interoperable with the
>> >> >3GPP2 BCMCS
>> >> >> > service.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > CableLabs has one option with sub-options (RFC 3495)
>> >rather than
>> >> >> > multiple options because:
>> >> >> > * wanted to avoid exhaustion of DHCP option code space;
>> >> >perhaps less
>> >> >> >    of an issue with option code reclassification
>> >> >> > * would have used VIVSO if available
>> >> >> > * use of VIVSO with sub-options would give 3GPP2 freedom
>> >> >to define new
>> >> >> >    sub-options on demand
>> >> >> > Do these considerations have an impact on our decision
>> >> >about how to
>> >> >> > proceed with the 3GPP2 options?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > - Ralph
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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To: Wing Cheong Lau <lau@qualcomm.com>
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I don't see the need for the following in the draft:

1. Reference to 3GPP2: because 3GPP2 does not use the scheme that you are
proposing here.

2. Vendor specific attribute parsing requirement on the DHCP server: It does
not scale.

3. The requirement of other parameter (non IP address) assignment by the
DHCP server: because the examples you give viz. HA, HoA, Home Link prefix
etc. are not something that the local domain (ASP) control as per MIP6.
These are controlled by the Home/Serving MSP.

-Kuntal


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Subject: RE: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and
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At 09:43 AM 10/29/2004, you wrote:

A few questions on this draft:

1. The primary motivation seems to be 3GPP2's network, but fact of the
matter is, 3GPP2 NAS (PDSN) does not push information received from a
different domain into the DHCP server in the local domain.

Yes. That is the status quo. But the intent of the internet draft is to keep

the possibility of such protocol support for roaming mobile scenario in the
future.  
Of course, as clearly stated in the current draft regarding it's
applicability and 
security implication need to be considered. In particular:

"The scope of applicability of this specification is such that the NAS 
   (which acts as a DHCP relay agent), any other participating DHCP 
   relay agent, the DHCP server and DHCP client should be within the 
   same administrative domain while the RADIUS service involved may span 
   multiple administrative domains. See the Section 5 for details of 
   security considerations when this specification is deployed with 
   RADIUS service operating across multiple administrative domains. 
   Global interoperability of this specification, across arbitrary 
   administrative domains, is not supported. "

and

"The RADIUS protocol [6] was designed for intra-domain use, where the 
   NAS, proxy, and home server exist within a single administrative 
   domain, and proxies may be considered a trusted component. However, 
   under roaming situation, the NAS, proxies, and home server will 
   typically be managed by different administrative entities. As a 
   result, inter-domain RADIUS operations are inherently required for 
   roaming applications, and proxies cannot necessarily be trusted.  
   Refer to Section 7 of RFC 2609 for a detailed security threat 
   analysis, limitations and precautions of operating RADIUS in a inter-
   domain environment. In general, robust and secure operations of 
   RADIUS across multiple administrative domains require pre-established 
   agreement, mutual trust, and secure communications channel amongst 
   all the participating domains."

Inter-domain RADIUS operations have its well-known
set of risks and limitations and any future applications of the proposed
options
in an cross-domain environment would be subjected to such considerations.  




2. The draft allows vendor specific RADIUS attributes to be pushed to the
DHCP server potentially from different domains. How does the DHCP sever
parse these vendor specific RADIUS attributes? Is it the assumption that the
DHCP server needs to know possibly all vendor specific RADIUS attributes?
This does not scale.

In general, as specified in the draft, the DHCP server "MAY" use the
information carried in the proposed option as a HINT to make the subsequent
assignment. If  the DHCP server does not
understand a particular vendor-specific option/VSA, it is free to ignore it
when making its
assignment. On the other hand, given a specific deployment environment, it
is not unreasonable to
assume the DHCP server would understand a particular set of vendor-specific,
e.g. 3GPP2, RADIUS VSA's. After all, as stated in the applicability
statement above, we are not talking about cross-domain RADIUS services over
any arbitrary domain, but only over those which have some sort of
pre-established roaming agreements.



3. It says that the DHCP server uses this RADIUS info to do IP address
allocation and other parameter allocation. It would be nice to know what
other parameters the authors have in mind.

Regards,
Kuntal

Parameters under considerations included Home Agent address, (for dynamic HA
assignment),
Home Address (HoA) and/or Home-link prefix, etc. 

In fact, my understanding is that, for a single
domain environment, RADIUS 3GPP2 VSA's have already been defined for these
set of 
parameters to enable MIP6 bootstrapping  via RADIUS/DHCPv6 within a single
domain.
 
If the risks/limitations of cross-domain RADIUS service stated above  are
deemed to be acceptable,
there is a possibility that such bootstrapping scheme can be extended across
providers with
pre-established roaming agreements. 

Regards,

Wing 

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To: "'Kuntal Chowdhury'" <chowdury@nortelnetworks.com>,
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Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
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I suspect Ralph meant that you're free to do whatever you want within =
the
bounds of the standard. This means you need to define 3GPP2 vendor =
specific
option codes, lengths, and contents.

So, you might define the following 3GPP2 vendor-specific information =
options
that would be carried in the DHCPv6 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS when the =
enterprise
ID is the 3GPP2 one:

1. 3GPP2_OPTION_ORO (=3D1). Same format as the ORO option, but carries =
the
3GPP2 option numbers, not DHCPv6 ones.

2. 3GPP2_OPTION_BCMCS_SERVER_D (=3D2) (same format as in
draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt)

3. 3GPP2_OPTION_BCMCS_SERVER_A (=3D3) (same format as in
draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt)

You can then have text that says "A server SHOULD return the 3GPP2
Vendor-Specific Options requested in the 3GPP2_OPTION_ORO option in a
OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS with the 3GPP2 enterprise ID."

A client would then send:
	OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS, length=3Dxx, data=3D<3ggp2 enterprise ID>,
<3GPP2_OPTION_ORO>, <length=3D4>,
                <3GPP2_OPTION_BCMCS_SERVER_D
code>,<3GPP2_OPTION_BCMCS_SERVER_A code>

The server would then respond with:
	OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS, length=3Dxx, data<3gpp2 enterprise ID>,=20
		<3GPP2_OPTION_BCMCS_SERVER_D>, <length=3Dxx>, <data>
		<3GPP2_OPTION_BCMCS_SERVER_A>, <length=3Dxx>, <data>

- Bernie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org]=20
> On Behalf Of Kuntal Chowdhury
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:44 PM
> To: Ralph Droms
> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org; Bernie Volz
> Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
>=20
>=20
> Hello Ralph,
>=20
> >The 3GPP2 standards bodies are free to define any syntax or
> >semantics for the 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS.  So, if 3GPP2=20
> >coule require that a client sends a 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS=20
> >request, which the server parses and responds with 3GPP2=20
> >OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS containing information for the client.
>=20
> If I understand what your are saying, the semantics to=20
> request/respond vendor specific information should also be=20
> vendor specific. I guess this is well understood to the DHCP=20
> implementers. It was not clear to me when I read RFC 3115.
>=20
> The syntax of OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS is defined in 3315:
>=20
> "
>    The encapsulated vendor-specific options field MUST be encoded as a
>    sequence of code/length/value fields of identical format=20
> to the DHCP
>    options field.  The option codes are defined by the vendor=20
> identified
>    in the enterprise-number field and are not managed by=20
> IANA.  Each of
>    the encapsulated options is formatted as follows:
>=20
>        0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>      =20
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>       |          opt-code             |            =20
> option-len        |
>      =20
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>       .                                                      =20
>         .
>       .                          option-data                 =20
>         .
>       .                                                      =20
>         .
>      =20
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> "
>=20
> So, I don't understand your statement "3GPP2 is free to=20
> define the syntax of OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS".  The syntax of=20
> OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS when it appears in a request message from=20
> the client is not clear.=20
>=20
> The suggested behavior of a 3GPP2 DHCP server sending all=20
> 3GPP2 specific information to the client (blindly) is not an=20
> ideal one. The approach where the client sends specific=20
> information request and the server returns the requested=20
> information only is a better one, IMHO.
>=20
> -Kuntal
>=20
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ralph Droms [mailto:rdroms@cisco.com]
> >Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:49 AM
> >To: Chowdhury, Kuntal [RICH1:2H18:EXCH]
> >Cc: Bernie Volz; dhcwg@ietf.org
> >Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >
> >
> >Kuntal - in both DHCPv4 and DHCPv6, there are no required
> >semantic ties between the message from the client to the=20
> >server and the response from the server.  That is, the client=20
> >is not required to include any option request information or=20
> >vendor identification (I'm using general terms rather than=20
> >specific options because of the differences between DHCPv4 and=20
> >DHCPv6) to cause the server to send certain options or=20
> >vendor-specific information back to the client.  The server=20
> >uses any option request information or vendor identification=20
> >or vendor-specific information as input ("hints") to the rules=20
> >the server uses to send a response to the client.  The server=20
> >is free to send information that has not been specifically=20
> >requested by the client, based on other information the server=20
> >gleans from the message it receives from the client.
> >
> >So, in the DHCPv6 case, the client is not required to send an
> >OPTION_ORO requesting OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS (although it may do=20
> >so) and the server, based on other information, is free to=20
> >send OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS.  In a 3GPP2 deployment, if the DHCPv6=20
> >server sees a request from a part of the network topology=20
> >known to be using 3GPP2, the server may assume that the device=20
> >sending the request is a 3GPP2 device and send 3GPP2=20
> >OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to that client.  And, if, for some reason,=20
> >the client is not a 3GPP2 device, the client can simply ignore=20
> >the 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS.
> >
> >The 3GPP2 standards bodies are free to define any syntax or
> >semantics for the 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS.  So, if 3GPP2=20
> >coule require that a client sends a 3GPP2 OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS=20
> >request, which the server parses and responds with 3GPP2=20
> >OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS containing information for the client.
> >
> >
> >- Ralph
> >
> >
> >At 03:08 PM 10/28/2004 -0400, Kuntal Chowdhury wrote:
> >>Hello Bernie,
> >>
> >>Thanks for the response. I guess what is not clear to me is
> >how a DHCP
> >>client requests vendor specific information from the DHCP server:
> >>
> >>"
> >>- A Client includes OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to identify itself.
> >>- A Client MAY include OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS if it has vendor specific
> >>data (other than classing information) to communicate.
> >>- A Server includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS for matching=20
> >enterprise IDs (and
> >>class data, if appropriate). This is only REQUIRED if the ORO
> >includes
> >>the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS code (the ORO doesn't say which
> >vendors; that is
> >>handled by OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS). "
> >>
> >>Second bullet seems to say that the DHCP client includes
> >>OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to convey some vendor specific=20
> information to the=20
> >>DHCP server beside the vendor class info (which is in=20
> >>OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS). It does not state that OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS is=20
> >>included in a DHCP message (such as information
> >>request) to REQUEST for vendor specific info from the server.=20
> >It is true
> >>that opcode for OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS can be included in ORO,
> >but that won't
> >>necessarily indicate to the server which vendor specific
> >codes it needs to
> >>return to the client. Also, the format of the
> >OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS when it
> >>appears in the REQUEST message is unclear.
> >>
> >>A clear description of how to use OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to
> >request vendor
> >>specific information (such as broadcast server address) will be
> >>required by SDOs such as 3GPP2.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Kuntal
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Bernie Volz [mailto:volz@cisco.com]
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:34 PM
> >> >To: Chowdhury, Kuntal [RICH1:2H18:EXCH]; 'Ralph Droms'
> >> >Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >> >Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hi:
> >> >
> >> >I believe the original model was for OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to be
> >> >similar to DHCPv4 Vendor class identifier option (option=20
> >60) and for
> >> >OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to be similar to DHCPv4 Vendor Specific
> >> >Information (option 43).
> >> >
> >> >You might refer to draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.txt, while for
> >DHCPv4, it
> >> >does have some additional information about how the options
> >might be
> >> >used. That work is modeled on the DHCPv6 options. In
> >particular, see
> >> >section 4:
> >> >
> >> >4.  Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option
> >> >
> >> >   DHCP clients and servers may use this option to=20
> exchange vendor-
> >> >   specific information.  Either party may send this
> >option, as needed.
> >> >   While a typical case might be for a client to send the
> >> >   Vendor-Identifying Vendor Class option, to elicit a useful
> >> >   Vendor-Identifying Vendor-Specific Information Option,
> >there is no
> >> >   requirement for such a flow.
> >> >
> >> >It would be good to get general agreement on this as=20
> you're perhaps
> >> >the first user. And, it would be best to set a "standard"=20
> >for others
> >> >to follow.
> >> >
> >> >I kind of liked the DHCPv4 model, as it is much easier and
> >clearly to
> >> >understand (and implement for clients and servers):
> >> >- A Client includes OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS to identify itself.
> >> >- A Client MAY include OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS if it has=20
> vendor specific
> >> >data (other than classing information) to communicate.
> >> >- A Server includes OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS for matching=20
> enterprise IDs=20
> >> >(and class data, if appropriate). This is only REQUIRED=20
> if the ORO=20
> >> >includes the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS code (the ORO doesn't say which=20
> >> >vendors; that is handled by OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS).
> >> >- I'm not sure why a server would ever need to include=20
> >> >OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS, though perhaps it could tell the client what=20
> >> >implementation the server is so that perhaps the client knows it=20
> >> >could use some extended capabilities? Or, the server could=20
> >send back
> >> >whatever the client sent to it?
> >> >
> >> >But, as draft-ietf-dhc-vendor-03.tx states, this is not the only
> >> >possible model.
> >> >
> >> >Note that in your case, I would assume that the=20
> OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS
> >> >would have your enterprise ID and some class information to=20
> >indicate
> >> >what capabilities the client supports (and therefore the server
> >> >should provide configuration for in the OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS).
> >> >
> >> >So, this is a good issue for the DHC WG to resolve and
> >clarify for a
> >> >future RFC 3315bis.
> >> >
> >> >- Bernie
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >> >> Behalf Of Kuntal Chowdhury
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:33 PM
> >> >> To: Ralph Droms; volz@cisco.com
> >> >> Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >> >> Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a few questions on the possible use of DHCPv6
> >> >> OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS to request vendor=20
> >> >> specific info:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Since the enterprise number is included in=20
> OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS,
> >> >> will it suffice to use only this option in the=20
> >information request
> >> >> message from the DHCP client? Is the use of OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS
> >> >> mandatory while vendor specific options are requested?
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. Does the mere inclusion of OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS in the
> >information
> >> >> request message indicate to the DHCP server that the DHCP
> >client is
> >> >> requesting for some specific vendor specific options?
> >> >>
> >> >> 3. O-R-O has the format where each of requested option codes are
> >> >> listed in it. However, in OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS the encapsulated=20
> >> >> vendor-specific options field MUST be encoded as a sequence of=20
> >> >> code/length/value fields. What value does the DHCP client=20
> >use while
> >> >> requesting for a vendor specific option?
> >> >>
> >> >> These things are not clearly defined in RFC3315.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Kuntal
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >> >> >Behalf Of Ralph Droms
> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:29 PM
> >> >> >To: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >> >> >Subject: RE: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >What about the deployment issue? The 3GGP2=20
> specification will be
> >> >> >ratified in November, with deployment following soon.  Some=20
> >> >> >service providers already have DHCP servers in place=20
> that must be
> >> >updated for
> >> >> >any new options.  The options defined in the current drafts can
> >> >> >likely be supported without code changes to existing servers,=20
> >> >> >allowing for faster deployment.  Use of a VIVSO=20
> sub-option would=20
> >> >> >require code changes to existing servers.  How long would
> >> >it take to
> >> >> >deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >BTW, we need more discussion of this issue *soon* due to
> >the time
> >> >> >constraints of the upcoming 3GPP2 standards process and
> >> >> >deployment.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >- Ralph
> >> >> >
> >> >> >At 04:12 PM 10/21/2004 -0400, Bernie Volz wrote:
> >> >> >>Personally, I'd like to see the DHCPv4 VIVSO get deployed
> >> >> and pushing
> >> >> >>these options to using it would be a step at making this
> >> >> >happen (as one
> >> >> >>would expect 3GPP2 vendors to have some significant
> >input to the
> >> >> >>decisions of DHCP server vendors).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>It also means that 3GPP2 is free to define other VIVSO
> >> >> options in the
> >> >> >>future within their own forum and need not go to the IETF
> >> >> >(and DHC WG).
> >> >> >>I suspect that this would provide much faster deployment
> >> >for them in
> >> >> >>the future.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Also, the DHCPv6 OPTION_VENDOR_CLASS and OPTION_VENDOR_OPTS
> >> >> >are already
> >> >> >>there for DHCPv6.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>BTW, 3GPP2 already has an enterprise-id number:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>5535
> >> >> >>   3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 (3GPP2)
> >> >> >>     Allen Long
> >> >> >>       along@cisco.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>So, they'd be good to go!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>- Bernie
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> > From: dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org=20
> [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org]
> >> >> >> > On Behalf Of Ralph Droms
> >> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:35 PM
> >> >> >> > To: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >> >> >> > Subject: [dhcwg] BCMCS server option drafts
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > We need to have a short WG conversation about two options
> >> >> >that were
> >> >> >> > discussed at the WG meeting in San Diego.  The
> >outcome of the
> >> >> >> > conversation will be to determine consensus about taking
> >> >> on these
> >> >> >> > two
> >> >> >> > drafts:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv4-option-01.txt
> >> >> >> > draft-chowdhury-dhc-bcmcv6-option-01.txt
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > as dhc WG work items or recommending that 3GPP2 define
> >> >> >> > vendor-identifying vendor-specific option (VIVSO;=20
> option code
> >> >> >> > 125) sub-options to carry the information described in
> >> >> the drafts.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If the WG consensus is to take on the drafts as WG
> >work items
> >> >> >> > drafts, are they acceptable as currently published?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Because of the time constraints imposed by the 3GPP2
> >> >> schedule, I'm
> >> >> >> > going to cut off discussion on this topic next Thursday,
> >> >> >10/28, and
> >> >> >> > determine WG consensus at that time.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Here are some considerations for discussion:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 3GPP2 has defined some vendor-specific sub-options, for
> >> >> >example, to
> >> >> >> > identify a MIP home agent for the DHCP client.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > A 3GPP2 client needs to specify to the DHCP server which
> >> >> >parameters
> >> >> >> > it needs - specifically, whether it needs to receive
> >the BCMCS
> >> >> >> > servers. If the current drafts are adopted, the client
> >> >> can simply
> >> >> >> > use the parameter request list option (option code
> >55) for the
> >> >> >> > request.  If a VIVSO sub-option is used, 3GPP2 would
> >> >> also define a
> >> >> >> > parameter request list sub-option.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > There is a deployment issue, as some service providers
> >> >> >already have
> >> >> >> > DHCP servers in place that must be updated for any new
> >> >> >options.  Is
> >> >> >> > it the case that the options defined in the current
> >> >drafts can be
> >> >> >> > supported without code changes to existing servers?  Use
> >> >> >of a VIVSO
> >> >> >> > sub-option would require code changes to existing servers.
> >> >> > How long
> >> >> >> > would it take to deploy DHCP server that can support VIVSO.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > BCMCS may be adopted across multiple technologies, so the
> >> >> >options in
> >> >> >> > the current drafts would not be specific to 3GPP2.
> >> >However, the
> >> >> >> > BCMCS specification has not adopted by other standards,
> >> >> yet, so we
> >> >> >> > may need to define additional options for related
> >> >> services in the
> >> >> >> > future if those services are not interoperable with the
> >> >> >3GPP2 BCMCS
> >> >> >> > service.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > CableLabs has one option with sub-options (RFC 3495)
> >> >rather than
> >> >> >> > multiple options because:
> >> >> >> > * wanted to avoid exhaustion of DHCP option code space;
> >> >> >perhaps less
> >> >> >> >    of an issue with option code reclassification
> >> >> >> > * would have used VIVSO if available
> >> >> >> > * use of VIVSO with sub-options would give 3GPP2 freedom
> >> >> >to define new
> >> >> >> >    sub-options on demand
> >> >> >> > Do these considerations have an impact on our decision
> >> >> >about how to
> >> >> >> > proceed with the 3GPP2 options?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > - Ralph
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Dear Kuntal,

Thank you for your comments. My response is interlaced below:

At 12:04 PM 10/29/2004, Kuntal Chowdhury wrote:
>I don't see the need for the following in the draft:
>
>1. Reference to 3GPP2: because 3GPP2 does not use the scheme that you are
>proposing here.

I disagree. At a minimum, the proposed option will benefit  3GPP2  in the 
case where the RADIUS and DHCP service are all under the same domain.
In particular, the current way (835D) 3GPP2 uses RADIUS/DHCPv6.
for doing MIP6 bootstrapping requires the PDSN to act as a DHCPv6 server 
(to answer stateless
request for HA/HoA/HL info). On the other hand, there are also additional 
needs in 3GPP2 where the PDSN has to act as a relay-agent instead. Such 
dual role of PDSN is unnecessary and not desirable
because it forces the Mobile to issue multiple separate requests for 
different set of parameters, to be answered by different DHCP servers.

With the proposed option, the PDSN only needs to be serve as a relay-agent, 
and the mobile do not
need to issue separate requests the different parameters it requests.

>2. Vendor specific attribute parsing requirement on the DHCP server: It does
>not scale.
I do not see your point. It option is used as a "hint", if the DHCP server 
does not understand a specific
vendor attribute, it can just ignore it while making it's assignment. 
What's the scalability issue here ?

>3. The requirement of other parameter (non IP address) assignment by the
>DHCP server: because the examples you give viz. HA, HoA, Home Link prefix
>etc. are not something that the local domain (ASP) control as per MIP6.
>These are controlled by the Home/Serving MSP.

Sorry, I do not get your point. If the proposed option is deemed to be 
useful for a cross-domain
RADIUS envirnoment, then, the HA/HoA/Home-link prefix, will be coming from 
the Home MSP,
via  RADIUS 3GPP VSA's, while the DHCPv6 relay-agent (PDSN) and the 
corresponding DHCPv6 server is under the control of the local domain ASP. 
This does not contradict your statement above.

I do agree that it is valid to debate whether one should allow the Home MSP 
to push HA/HoA/HL info to its own DHCPv6 server. But regardless of the 
answer to this question, as I explain above, the proposed option do have 
value for the single-domain case where the RADIUS service and the DHCP
servers/relay-agents are belonging to the same domain.

Regards,

Wing







>-Kuntal
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Wing Cheong Lau [mailto:lau@qualcomm.com]
>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:38 PM
>To: Chowdhury, Kuntal [RICH1:2H18:EXCH]
>Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option and
>RADIUS Attributes sub-option
>
>
>At 09:43 AM 10/29/2004, you wrote:
>
>A few questions on this draft:
>
>1. The primary motivation seems to be 3GPP2's network, but fact of the
>matter is, 3GPP2 NAS (PDSN) does not push information received from a
>different domain into the DHCP server in the local domain.
>
>Yes. That is the status quo. But the intent of the internet draft is to keep
>
>the possibility of such protocol support for roaming mobile scenario in the
>future.
>Of course, as clearly stated in the current draft regarding it's
>applicability and
>security implication need to be considered. In particular:
>
>"The scope of applicability of this specification is such that the NAS
>    (which acts as a DHCP relay agent), any other participating DHCP
>    relay agent, the DHCP server and DHCP client should be within the
>    same administrative domain while the RADIUS service involved may span
>    multiple administrative domains. See the Section 5 for details of
>    security considerations when this specification is deployed with
>    RADIUS service operating across multiple administrative domains.
>    Global interoperability of this specification, across arbitrary
>    administrative domains, is not supported. "
>
>and
>
>"The RADIUS protocol [6] was designed for intra-domain use, where the
>    NAS, proxy, and home server exist within a single administrative
>    domain, and proxies may be considered a trusted component. However,
>    under roaming situation, the NAS, proxies, and home server will
>    typically be managed by different administrative entities. As a
>    result, inter-domain RADIUS operations are inherently required for
>    roaming applications, and proxies cannot necessarily be trusted.
>    Refer to Section 7 of RFC 2609 for a detailed security threat
>    analysis, limitations and precautions of operating RADIUS in a inter-
>    domain environment. In general, robust and secure operations of
>    RADIUS across multiple administrative domains require pre-established
>    agreement, mutual trust, and secure communications channel amongst
>    all the participating domains."
>
>Inter-domain RADIUS operations have its well-known
>set of risks and limitations and any future applications of the proposed
>options
>in an cross-domain environment would be subjected to such considerations.
>
>
>
>
>2. The draft allows vendor specific RADIUS attributes to be pushed to the
>DHCP server potentially from different domains. How does the DHCP sever
>parse these vendor specific RADIUS attributes? Is it the assumption that the
>DHCP server needs to know possibly all vendor specific RADIUS attributes?
>This does not scale.
>
>In general, as specified in the draft, the DHCP server "MAY" use the
>information carried in the proposed option as a HINT to make the subsequent
>assignment. If  the DHCP server does not
>understand a particular vendor-specific option/VSA, it is free to ignore it
>when making its
>assignment. On the other hand, given a specific deployment environment, it
>is not unreasonable to
>assume the DHCP server would understand a particular set of vendor-specific,
>e.g. 3GPP2, RADIUS VSA's. After all, as stated in the applicability
>statement above, we are not talking about cross-domain RADIUS services over
>any arbitrary domain, but only over those which have some sort of
>pre-established roaming agreements.
>
>
>
>3. It says that the DHCP server uses this RADIUS info to do IP address
>allocation and other parameter allocation. It would be nice to know what
>other parameters the authors have in mind.
>
>Regards,
>Kuntal
>
>Parameters under considerations included Home Agent address, (for dynamic HA
>assignment),
>Home Address (HoA) and/or Home-link prefix, etc.
>
>In fact, my understanding is that, for a single
>domain environment, RADIUS 3GPP2 VSA's have already been defined for these
>set of
>parameters to enable MIP6 bootstrapping  via RADIUS/DHCPv6 within a single
>domain.
>
>If the risks/limitations of cross-domain RADIUS service stated above  are
>deemed to be acceptable,
>there is a possibility that such bootstrapping scheme can be extended across
>providers with
>pre-established roaming agreements.
>
>Regards,
>
>Wing


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From: "Kuntal Chowdhury" <chowdury@nortelnetworks.com>
To: Wing Cheong Lau <lau@qualcomm.com>
Subject: RE: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option   an
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The intent in your draft i.e. configure MN with HA/HoA/HL information can be
achieved with:

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt

Unlike your draft this draft:

1. Does not require the DHCP server to parse vendor-specific RADIUS
attributes.
2. Has no interdomain (ASP-MSP) tight coupling assumption.
3. Provides integrity and authenticity of the information that is exchanged.
4. It is AAA protocol agnostic, i.e. works for both RADIUS and DIAMETER.
5. Does not assume a 3GPP2 centric architecture. It is generic.

Regards,
Kuntal


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Wing Cheong Lau [mailto:lau@qualcomm.com] 
>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:44 PM
>To: Chowdhury, Kuntal [RICH1:2H18:EXCH]; Wing Cheong Lau
>Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information 
>Option and RADIUS Attributes sub-option
>
>
>Dear Kuntal,
>
>Thank you for your comments. My response is interlaced below:
>
>At 12:04 PM 10/29/2004, Kuntal Chowdhury wrote:
>>I don't see the need for the following in the draft:
>>
>>1. Reference to 3GPP2: because 3GPP2 does not use the scheme that you 
>>are proposing here.
>
>I disagree. At a minimum, the proposed option will benefit  
>3GPP2  in the 
>case where the RADIUS and DHCP service are all under the same 
>domain. In particular, the current way (835D) 3GPP2 uses 
>RADIUS/DHCPv6. for doing MIP6 bootstrapping requires the PDSN 
>to act as a DHCPv6 server 
>(to answer stateless
>request for HA/HoA/HL info). On the other hand, there are also 
>additional 
>needs in 3GPP2 where the PDSN has to act as a relay-agent 
>instead. Such 
>dual role of PDSN is unnecessary and not desirable
>because it forces the Mobile to issue multiple separate requests for 
>different set of parameters, to be answered by different DHCP servers.
>
>With the proposed option, the PDSN only needs to be serve as a 
>relay-agent, 
>and the mobile do not
>need to issue separate requests the different parameters it requests.
>
>>2. Vendor specific attribute parsing requirement on the DHCP 
>server: It 
>>does not scale.
>I do not see your point. It option is used as a "hint", if the 
>DHCP server 
>does not understand a specific
>vendor attribute, it can just ignore it while making it's assignment. 
>What's the scalability issue here ?
>
>>3. The requirement of other parameter (non IP address) assignment by 
>>the DHCP server: because the examples you give viz. HA, HoA, 
>Home Link 
>>prefix etc. are not something that the local domain (ASP) control as 
>>per MIP6. These are controlled by the Home/Serving MSP.
>
>Sorry, I do not get your point. If the proposed option is deemed to be 
>useful for a cross-domain
>RADIUS envirnoment, then, the HA/HoA/Home-link prefix, will be 
>coming from 
>the Home MSP,
>via  RADIUS 3GPP VSA's, while the DHCPv6 relay-agent (PDSN) and the 
>corresponding DHCPv6 server is under the control of the local 
>domain ASP. 
>This does not contradict your statement above.
>
>I do agree that it is valid to debate whether one should allow 
>the Home MSP 
>to push HA/HoA/HL info to its own DHCPv6 server. But regardless of the 
>answer to this question, as I explain above, the proposed 
>option do have 
>value for the single-domain case where the RADIUS service and 
>the DHCP servers/relay-agents are belonging to the same domain.
>
>Regards,
>
>Wing
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>-Kuntal
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Wing Cheong Lau [mailto:lau@qualcomm.com]
>>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:38 PM
>>To: Chowdhury, Kuntal [RICH1:2H18:EXCH]
>>Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
>>Subject: RE: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option 
>>and RADIUS Attributes sub-option
>>
>>
>>At 09:43 AM 10/29/2004, you wrote:
>>
>>A few questions on this draft:
>>
>>1. The primary motivation seems to be 3GPP2's network, but 
>fact of the 
>>matter is, 3GPP2 NAS (PDSN) does not push information received from a 
>>different domain into the DHCP server in the local domain.
>>
>>Yes. That is the status quo. But the intent of the internet 
>draft is to 
>>keep
>>
>>the possibility of such protocol support for roaming mobile 
>scenario in 
>>the future. Of course, as clearly stated in the current draft 
>regarding 
>>it's applicability and
>>security implication need to be considered. In particular:
>>
>>"The scope of applicability of this specification is such that the NAS
>>    (which acts as a DHCP relay agent), any other participating DHCP
>>    relay agent, the DHCP server and DHCP client should be within the
>>    same administrative domain while the RADIUS service 
>involved may span
>>    multiple administrative domains. See the Section 5 for details of
>>    security considerations when this specification is deployed with
>>    RADIUS service operating across multiple administrative domains.
>>    Global interoperability of this specification, across arbitrary
>>    administrative domains, is not supported. "
>>
>>and
>>
>>"The RADIUS protocol [6] was designed for intra-domain use, where the
>>    NAS, proxy, and home server exist within a single administrative
>>    domain, and proxies may be considered a trusted 
>component. However,
>>    under roaming situation, the NAS, proxies, and home server will
>>    typically be managed by different administrative entities. As a
>>    result, inter-domain RADIUS operations are inherently required for
>>    roaming applications, and proxies cannot necessarily be trusted.
>>    Refer to Section 7 of RFC 2609 for a detailed security threat
>>    analysis, limitations and precautions of operating RADIUS 
>in a inter-
>>    domain environment. In general, robust and secure operations of
>>    RADIUS across multiple administrative domains require 
>pre-established
>>    agreement, mutual trust, and secure communications channel amongst
>>    all the participating domains."
>>
>>Inter-domain RADIUS operations have its well-known
>>set of risks and limitations and any future applications of the 
>>proposed options in an cross-domain environment would be subjected to 
>>such considerations.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>2. The draft allows vendor specific RADIUS attributes to be pushed to 
>>the DHCP server potentially from different domains. How does the DHCP 
>>sever parse these vendor specific RADIUS attributes? Is it the 
>>assumption that the DHCP server needs to know possibly all vendor 
>>specific RADIUS attributes? This does not scale.
>>
>>In general, as specified in the draft, the DHCP server "MAY" use the 
>>information carried in the proposed option as a HINT to make the 
>>subsequent assignment. If  the DHCP server does not understand a 
>>particular vendor-specific option/VSA, it is free to ignore it when 
>>making its assignment. On the other hand, given a specific deployment 
>>environment, it is not unreasonable to
>>assume the DHCP server would understand a particular set of 
>vendor-specific,
>>e.g. 3GPP2, RADIUS VSA's. After all, as stated in the applicability
>>statement above, we are not talking about cross-domain RADIUS 
>services over
>>any arbitrary domain, but only over those which have some sort of
>>pre-established roaming agreements.
>>
>>
>>
>>3. It says that the DHCP server uses this RADIUS info to do 
>IP address 
>>allocation and other parameter allocation. It would be nice to know 
>>what other parameters the authors have in mind.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Kuntal
>>
>>Parameters under considerations included Home Agent address, (for 
>>dynamic HA assignment), Home Address (HoA) and/or Home-link prefix, 
>>etc.
>>
>>In fact, my understanding is that, for a single
>>domain environment, RADIUS 3GPP2 VSA's have already been defined for 
>>these set of parameters to enable MIP6 bootstrapping  via 
>RADIUS/DHCPv6 
>>within a single domain.
>>
>>If the risks/limitations of cross-domain RADIUS service stated above  
>>are deemed to be acceptable, there is a possibility that such 
>>bootstrapping scheme can be extended across providers with
>>pre-established roaming agreements.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Wing
>
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Kuntal,

At 01:54 PM 10/29/2004, Kuntal Chowdhury wrote:
>The intent in your draft i.e. configure MN with HA/HoA/HL information can be
>achieved with:
>
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt

Thanks for bringing to our attention the existence of this new draft. 
Somehow, I have not seen
its announcement before, at least not in the dhc or mip6 mailing list.

>Unlike your draft this draft:
>
>1. Does not require the DHCP server to parse vendor-specific RADIUS
>attributes.

But it requires the DHCP relay-agent to parse and understand the newly 
defined, yet-to-be standardized RADIUS Attributes carrying 
HA/HoA/Home-link-prefix as described in
draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-00.txt and similar yet-to-be
defined attributes if DIAMETER is used.

>2. Has no interdomain (ASP-MSP) tight coupling assumption.
>3. Provides integrity and authenticity of the information that is exchanged.
>4. It is AAA protocol agnostic, i.e. works for both RADIUS and DIAMETER.
>5. Does not assume a 3GPP2 centric architecture. It is generic.


>Regards,
>Kuntal


I just did a quick pass thru it but did not find any description addressing 
the issue where
the NAS/DHCP relay-agent and the AAA belongs to a different domain and 
RADIUS is used as
the AAA protocol. (This is precisely the same issue you raised for the 
DHCPv6 Relay Information Option/RADIUS Attributes sub-option draft.). So, 
would you point to the specific text in the draft which substantiates your 
claims 2) and 4) simultaneously ?

Currently, the draft just conveniently states:
"The AAA procedures using RADIUS is defined in [MIP6-RADIUS]", but

    [MIP6-RADIUS]
               Chowdhury et. al., K., "RADIUS Attributes for Mobile IPv6
               bootstrapping", draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-01
               (work in progress), July 2004.

cannot be found in public (I meant -01 version cannot be found, only -00 is 
available).
On the other hand, I cannot see how the cross-domain scenario described 
in  -00 version of  draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius the draftis 
different than the one in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt.

Am I missing something here ?


I would also like to point out that the DHCPv6 Relay Info Option/ RADIUS 
Attribute sub-option actually addresses 2 level of  needs:

1. The ability of DHCPv6 Relay agent to tag along additional "info" as it 
forwards requests from the DHCP client to the DHCP server, regardless of 
the specific nature of the "info". This is a "general"
capability for the DHCPv6 Relay agent which is absent from the RFC 3315. It 
seems like both your
and our draft needs such capability. The main difference is that, in 
draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt, newly defined MIP6-bootstrapping 
options are relayed while in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt, the info 
got relayed are RADIUS attributes.


2. As for the relay-agent RADIUS option, it is a feature of its own right, 
the example given in our draft is just one of its use which can help 
address an immediate issue in 3GPP2 835D.


3. As stated in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt,
" This document uses 3GPP2 access authentication as an example to
    motivate the use of the Relay Agent Information option and the RADIUS
    Attributes sub-option by a NAS. The Relay Agent Information option is
    not limited to use in conjunction with RADIUS sub-option when other
    sub-options are defined in the future. The RADIUS Attributes sub-
    option for the Relay Agent Information option described in this
    document is not limited to use in conjunction with 3GPP2 and can be
    used to carry RADIUS attributes obtained by the relay agent for any
    reason.  That is, the sub-option is not limited to use with 3GPP2,
    but is constrained by RADIUS semantics."


Regards,

Wing 
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Kuntal,<br><br>
At 01:54 PM 10/29/2004, Kuntal Chowdhury wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>The intent in your draft i.e.
configure MN with HA/HoA/HL information can be<br>
achieved with:<br><br>
<a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt" eudora="autourl">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt</a><br>
</blockquote><br>
Thanks for bringing to our attention the existence of this new draft.
Somehow, I have not seen<br>
its announcement before, at least not in the dhc or mip6 mailing
list.<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Unlike your draft this
draft:<br><br>
1. Does not require the DHCP server to parse vendor-specific RADIUS<br>
attributes.</blockquote><br>
But it requires the DHCP relay-agent to parse and understand the newly
defined, yet-to-be standardized RADIUS Attributes carrying
HA/HoA/Home-link-prefix as described in <br>
<pre>draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-00.txt and similar yet-to-be
defined attributes if DIAMETER is used.

</pre><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>2. Has no interdomain
(ASP-MSP) tight coupling assumption.<br>
3. Provides integrity and authenticity of the information that is
exchanged.<br>
4. It is AAA protocol agnostic, i.e. works for both RADIUS and
DIAMETER.<br>
5. Does not assume a 3GPP2 centric architecture. It is generic.<br>
</blockquote><br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Regards,<br>
Kuntal<br>
</blockquote><br><br>
I just did a quick pass thru it but did not find any description
addressing the issue where<br>
the NAS/DHCP relay-agent and the AAA belongs to a different domain and
RADIUS is used as<br>
the AAA protocol. (This is precisely the same issue you raised for the
DHCPv6 Relay Information Option/RADIUS Attributes sub-option draft.). So,
would you point to the specific text in the draft which substantiates
your claims 2) and 4) simultaneously ? <br><br>
<pre>Currently, the draft just conveniently states:
&quot;The AAA procedures using RADIUS is defined in [MIP6-RADIUS]&quot;,
but

&nbsp;&nbsp; [MIP6-RADIUS]
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Chowdhury et. al., K., &quot;RADIUS Attributes for Mobile IPv6
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
bootstrapping&quot;, draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-01
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
(work in progress), July 2004.

</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier">cannot be found in public (I
meant -01 version cannot be found, only -00 is available). <br>
On the other hand, I cannot see how the cross-domain scenario described
in&nbsp; -00 version of&nbsp;
</font><pre>draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius
</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier">the draft</font>is different than
the one in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt.<br><br>
Am I missing something here ?<br><br>
<br>
I would also like to point out that the DHCPv6 Relay Info Option/ RADIUS
Attribute sub-option actually addresses 2 level of&nbsp; needs:<br><br>
1. The ability of DHCPv6 Relay agent to tag along additional
&quot;info&quot; as it forwards requests from the DHCP client to the DHCP
server, regardless of the specific nature of the &quot;info&quot;. This
is a &quot;general&quot;<br>
capability for the DHCPv6 Relay agent which is absent from the RFC 3315.
It seems like both your<br>
and our draft needs such capability. The main difference is that, in
draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt, newly defined MIP6-bootstrapping
options are relayed while in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt, the info
got relayed are RADIUS attributes.<br><br>
<br>
2. As for the relay-agent RADIUS option, it is a feature of its own
right, the example given in our draft is just one of its use which can
help address an immediate issue in 3GPP2 835D. <br><br>
<br>
3. As stated in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt, <br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier">&quot; This document uses 3GPP2 access
authentication as an example to <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; motivate the use of the Relay Agent Information option and
the RADIUS <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Attributes sub-option by a NAS. The Relay Agent Information
option is <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; not limited to use in conjunction with RADIUS sub-option
when other <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; sub-options are defined in the future. The RADIUS Attributes
sub-<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; option for the Relay Agent Information option described in
this <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; document is not limited to use in conjunction with 3GPP2 and
can be <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; used to carry RADIUS attributes obtained by the relay agent
for any <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; reason.&nbsp; That is, the sub-option is not limited to use
with 3GPP2, <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; but is constrained by RADIUS semantics.&quot; <br><br>
<br>
</font>Regards,<br><br>
Wing</body>
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draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-01.txt is not publicly available yet
because I submitted -01 version after the 25th Nov cutoff date. It will be
available after Nov 7th when the new submission gate opens. If you need, I
can send you a copy. 

BTW, the DHCP relay does not do AAA AVP parsing. The NAS which is collocated
with the DHCP relay does the parsing. Don't you think AAA AVP parsing is in
the job description of a NAS?

-Kuntal


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Kuntal,

At 01:54 PM 10/29/2004, Kuntal Chowdhury wrote:

The intent in your draft i.e. configure MN with HA/HoA/HL information can be
achieved with:

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt


Thanks for bringing to our attention the existence of this new draft.
Somehow, I have not seen
its announcement before, at least not in the dhc or mip6 mailing list.


Unlike your draft this draft:

1. Does not require the DHCP server to parse vendor-specific RADIUS
attributes.

But it requires the DHCP relay-agent to parse and understand the newly
defined, yet-to-be standardized RADIUS Attributes carrying
HA/HoA/Home-link-prefix as described in 

draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-00.txt and similar yet-to-be
defined attributes if DIAMETER is used.


2. Has no interdomain (ASP-MSP) tight coupling assumption.
3. Provides integrity and authenticity of the information that is exchanged.
4. It is AAA protocol agnostic, i.e. works for both RADIUS and DIAMETER.
5. Does not assume a 3GPP2 centric architecture. It is generic.




Regards,
Kuntal



I just did a quick pass thru it but did not find any description addressing
the issue where
the NAS/DHCP relay-agent and the AAA belongs to a different domain and
RADIUS is used as
the AAA protocol. (This is precisely the same issue you raised for the
DHCPv6 Relay Information Option/RADIUS Attributes sub-option draft.). So,
would you point to the specific text in the draft which substantiates your
claims 2) and 4) simultaneously ? 


Currently, the draft just conveniently states:
"The AAA procedures using RADIUS is defined in [MIP6-RADIUS]",
but

   [MIP6-RADIUS]
             
Chowdhury et. al., K., "RADIUS Attributes for Mobile IPv6
             
bootstrapping", draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-01
             
(work in progress), July 2004.


cannot be found in public (I meant -01 version cannot be found, only -00 is
available). 
On the other hand, I cannot see how the cross-domain scenario described in
-00 version of  
draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius

the draftis different than the one in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt.

Am I missing something here ?


I would also like to point out that the DHCPv6 Relay Info Option/ RADIUS
Attribute sub-option actually addresses 2 level of  needs:

1. The ability of DHCPv6 Relay agent to tag along additional "info" as it
forwards requests from the DHCP client to the DHCP server, regardless of the
specific nature of the "info". This is a "general"
capability for the DHCPv6 Relay agent which is absent from the RFC 3315. It
seems like both your
and our draft needs such capability. The main difference is that, in
draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt, newly defined MIP6-bootstrapping
options are relayed while in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt, the info
got relayed are RADIUS attributes.


2. As for the relay-agent RADIUS option, it is a feature of its own right,
the example given in our draft is just one of its use which can help address
an immediate issue in 3GPP2 835D. 


3. As stated in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt, 
" This document uses 3GPP2 access authentication as an example to 
   motivate the use of the Relay Agent Information option and the RADIUS 
   Attributes sub-option by a NAS. The Relay Agent Information option is 
   not limited to use in conjunction with RADIUS sub-option when other 
   sub-options are defined in the future. The RADIUS Attributes sub-
   option for the Relay Agent Information option described in this 
   document is not limited to use in conjunction with 3GPP2 and can be 
   used to carry RADIUS attributes obtained by the relay agent for any 
   reason.  That is, the sub-option is not limited to use with 3GPP2, 
   but is constrained by RADIUS semantics." 


Regards,

Wing 

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>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:23:40 -0700
>To: "Kuntal Chowdhury" <chowdury@nortelnetworks.com>
>From: Wing Cheong Lau <lau@qualcomm.com>
>Subject: RE: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option    a 
>n d RADIUS Attributes sub-option
>
>At 03:38 PM 10/29/2004, you wrote:
>>draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-01.txt is not publicly available yet
>>because I submitted -01 version after the 25th Nov cutoff date. It will be
>>available after Nov 7th when the new submission gate opens. If you need, I
>>can send you a copy.
>
>>-Kuntal
>
>Sure, a URL for that draft will be welcome. Thanks in advance.
>(BTW, the reference date for -01 should be
>Oct 04, rather than July 04, as currently shown in 
>draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt then).
>
>In any case,  would you share with us  in advance how the proposed scheme 
>addresses the trust/security
>issue for the case where the NAS/DHCP relay-agent and the AAA belong to 
>different domains
>and RADIUS is used as the AAA protocol ?
>This is  to substantiate the support of claims 2) and 4) simultaneously ?
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Wing
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Wing Cheong Lau [mailto:lau@qualcomm.com]
>>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 5:06 PM
>>To: Chowdhury, Kuntal [RICH1:2H18:EXCH]; Wing Cheong Lau
>>Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
>>Subject: RE: RE: [dhcwg] New draft on DHCPv6 Relay Information Option an d
>>RADIUS Attributes sub-option
>>
>>
>>Kuntal,
>>
>>At 01:54 PM 10/29/2004, Kuntal Chowdhury wrote:
>>
>>The intent in your draft i.e. configure MN with HA/HoA/HL information can be
>>achieved with:
>>
>>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt
>>
>>
>>Thanks for bringing to our attention the existence of this new draft.
>>Somehow, I have not seen
>>its announcement before, at least not in the dhc or mip6 mailing list.
>>
>>
>>Unlike your draft this draft:
>>
>>1. Does not require the DHCP server to parse vendor-specific RADIUS
>>attributes.
>>
>>But it requires the DHCP relay-agent to parse and understand the newly
>>defined, yet-to-be standardized RADIUS Attributes carrying
>>HA/HoA/Home-link-prefix as described in
>>
>>draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-00.txt and similar yet-to-be
>>defined attributes if DIAMETER is used.
>>
>>
>>2. Has no interdomain (ASP-MSP) tight coupling assumption.
>>3. Provides integrity and authenticity of the information that is exchanged.
>>4. It is AAA protocol agnostic, i.e. works for both RADIUS and DIAMETER.
>>5. Does not assume a 3GPP2 centric architecture. It is generic.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Kuntal
>>
>>
>>
>>I just did a quick pass thru it but did not find any description addressing
>>the issue where
>>the NAS/DHCP relay-agent and the AAA belongs to a different domain and
>>RADIUS is used as
>>the AAA protocol. (This is precisely the same issue you raised for the
>>DHCPv6 Relay Information Option/RADIUS Attributes sub-option draft.). So,
>>would you point to the specific text in the draft which substantiates your
>>claims 2) and 4) simultaneously ?
>>
>>
>>Currently, the draft just conveniently states:
>>"The AAA procedures using RADIUS is defined in [MIP6-RADIUS]",
>>but
>>
>>    [MIP6-RADIUS]
>>
>>Chowdhury et. al., K., "RADIUS Attributes for Mobile IPv6
>>
>>bootstrapping", draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius-01
>>
>>(work in progress), July 2004.
>>
>>
>>cannot be found in public (I meant -01 version cannot be found, only -00 is
>>available).
>>On the other hand, I cannot see how the cross-domain scenario described in
>>-00 version of
>>draft-chowdhury-mip6-bootstrap-radius
>>
>>the draftis different than the one in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt.
>>
>>Am I missing something here ?
>>
>>
>>I would also like to point out that the DHCPv6 Relay Info Option/ RADIUS
>>Attribute sub-option actually addresses 2 level of  needs:
>>
>>1. The ability of DHCPv6 Relay agent to tag along additional "info" as it
>>forwards requests from the DHCP client to the DHCP server, regardless of the
>>specific nature of the "info". This is a "general"
>>capability for the DHCPv6 Relay agent which is absent from the RFC 3315. It
>>seems like both your
>>and our draft needs such capability. The main difference is that, in
>>draft-chowdhury-dhc-mip6-agentop-00.txt, newly defined MIP6-bootstrapping
>>options are relayed while in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt, the info
>>got relayed are RADIUS attributes.
>>
>>
>>2. As for the relay-agent RADIUS option, it is a feature of its own right,
>>the example given in our draft is just one of its use which can help address
>>an immediate issue in 3GPP2 835D.
>>
>>
>>3. As stated in draft-droms-dhc-v6-relayopt-00.txt,
>>" This document uses 3GPP2 access authentication as an example to
>>    motivate the use of the Relay Agent Information option and the RADIUS
>>    Attributes sub-option by a NAS. The Relay Agent Information option is
>>    not limited to use in conjunction with RADIUS sub-option when other
>>    sub-options are defined in the future. The RADIUS Attributes sub-
>>    option for the Relay Agent Information option described in this
>>    document is not limited to use in conjunction with 3GPP2 and can be
>>    used to carry RADIUS attributes obtained by the relay agent for any
>>    reason.  That is, the sub-option is not limited to use with 3GPP2,
>>    but is constrained by RADIUS semantics."
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Wing


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