From vumip1@gmail.com Tue Apr 3 19:38:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEADC21F856C; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:38:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.825 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.825 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.773, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dBQWpDA-oaDb; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C8F21F8568; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbtb4 with SMTP id tb4so587840obb.31 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:38:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6uEBZ9heJkgKZQdg8XGDIyAo9fY484LtFO+LXwB22SQ=; b=Cu4yBE1GGi/5dcs1VLoLR22aNE1Qv2js3jXoSf9I07NQruwi+Z5VDOnV7xMNmtzIRj p3aSWAOnoCMGNcxLsfUiAZKLNvXuxhUPsnfD+IXO8LumZTY0Y1e5OXVSKvH5ENEWMWo8 fJt7R9LWMqjON1LB7iiqM3amHfO7ATkUH/pMXd4kFPlS/sqi5Wh+G8OSgyJVvFYtaMGf INnv4b+RNORrsXVPdXXnlMskUpl+uAxnynFbC/dRLiQj9N5+zpx+6wHtEdp1eOrccVtJ 87z4OAskACWmZXcjQ1XwzQKtnTrdfhJVPVlBuFjUT6KR5LX9UUE8xz1OW3m5lWlTWnM4 3WpA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.188.38 with SMTP id fx6mr22118610obc.77.1333507090880; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.171.104 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:38:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: Bhumip Khasnabish To: opsawg@ietf.org, apps-discuss@ietf.org, dc@ietf.org, cdni@ietf.org, scim@ietf.org, dcrg-interest@irtf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04478bdd7518e904bcd150de Subject: [dc] Fwd: slides from IETF83 Cloud Storage Talk by Giorgio X-BeenThere: dc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Data Center Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 02:38:12 -0000 --f46d04478bdd7518e904bcd150de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The slides from IETF83 Cloud Storage Talk by Giorgio are now available at the following Website: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/Clouds File names are as follows: IETF83-Cloud-Storage-Talk-Giorgio-29Mar2012-part1.pdf and IETF83-Cloud-Storage-Talk-Giorgio-29Mar2012-part2.pdf --f46d04478bdd7518e904bcd150de Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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--f46d04478bdd7518e904bcd150de-- From rbonica@juniper.net Tue Apr 17 10:58:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E3111E80A1 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:58:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.515 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.515 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.084, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TA1Tll7nMrt9 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og127.obsmtp.com (exprod7og127.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.210]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AF011E80A0 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob127.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT42vNS2M3eRcovhd6sJhxdwHcLl562nI@postini.com; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:58:14 PDT Received: from P-CLDFE01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.59) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:57:58 -0700 Received: from p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.24) by p-cldfe01-hq.jnpr.net (172.24.192.59) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:57:58 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::d0d1:653d:5b91:a123%11]) with mapi; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:57:57 -0400 From: Ronald Bonica To: "dc@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:57:56 -0400 Thread-Topic: Shutting Down Thread-Index: Ac0cw55+YUbVXI8HRnymqbybCWQ18g== Message-ID: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D76A5C7E0D@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [dc] Shutting Down X-BeenThere: dc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Data Center Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:58:18 -0000 Folks, This mailing list has been relatively silent for the last month. Also, data= center work has migrate to NVO3. So, unless I hear some very strong object= ion, this list will shut down in Friday, April 20. -------------------------- Ron Bonica vcard: www.bonica.org/ron/ronbonica.vcf From lars@netapp.com Wed Apr 18 01:03:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B6321F864D for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:03:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.778 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.778 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.179, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bHzjLmebkfRs for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netapp.com (mx2.netapp.com [216.240.18.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF1621F8694 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:03:04 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,439,1330934400"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="641711831" Received: from smtp1.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.156.124]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 18 Apr 2012 01:03:04 -0700 Received: from vmwexceht03-prd.hq.netapp.com (vmwexceht03-prd.hq.netapp.com [10.106.76.241]) by smtp1.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id q3I833G6010728; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.117]) by vmwexceht03-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.76.241]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:03:03 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: Ronald Bonica Thread-Topic: "datacenter networking" research group proposal (was: Re: [dc] Shutting Down) Thread-Index: AQHNHTmt1trS+NDJykuMKzOzd1Tgsg== Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:03:02 +0000 Message-ID: <747E9D26-E569-433C-8BB4-7C4DEA4477EA@netapp.com> References: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D76A5C7E0D@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> In-Reply-To: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D76A5C7E0D@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.106.53.51] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B4D04141-AF4F-441F-919B-F85AB72A9D43"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "irtf-discuss@irtf.org" , "dcrg-interest@irtf.org" , "dc@ietf.org" Subject: [dc] "datacenter networking" research group proposal (was: Re: Shutting Down) X-BeenThere: dc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: "dcrg-interest@irtf.org" List-Id: IETF Data Center Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:03:21 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B4D04141-AF4F-441F-919B-F85AB72A9D43 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, On Apr 17, 2012, at 19:57, Ronald Bonica wrote: > This mailing list has been relatively silent for the last month. Also, = data center work has migrate to NVO3. So, unless I hear some very strong = objection, this list will shut down in Friday, April 20. let me take this opportunity to say that I'd remain supportive of an = effort to start an IRTF research group on datacenter networking topics = (in the broader sense). There is a discussion list here: = http://www.irtf.org/mailman/options/dcrg-interest. It has not seen much = traffic. While I keep hearing that people would find such a research = group interesting (as would I), there is currently nobody that I know of = that is working on crafting a coherent RG proposal. Some small group of = people need to feel interested enough to create a community here and = push the topic forward. I will leave the dcrg-interest IRTF mailing list up for a few more = months in the hope that such a group of people materializes. There were = certainly enough topics proposed in the IETF discussion on datacenters, = SDN and (dare I say) clouds that are not ready for IETF work but IMO do = deserve a home to be further developed. 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id AD51321F8618 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 03:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by MailRelay01 (envelope-from yaakov?s@rad.com) with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 18 Apr 2012 13:08:21 +0300 Received: from EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il ([192.114.24.28]) by EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il ([192.114.24.28]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:23:39 +0300 From: Yaakov Stein To: Stephen Farrell , "dcrg-interest@irtf.org" Thread-Topic: [irtf-discuss] "datacenter networking" research group proposal Thread-Index: AQHNHTymLrrTqeFcYUqMwJPk+PeEXZagXxdA Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:23:38 +0000 Message-ID: <07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC9043735EE@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> References: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D76A5C7E0D@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> <747E9D26-E569-433C-8BB4-7C4DEA4477EA@netapp.com> <4F8E7A11.7020408@cs.tcd.ie> In-Reply-To: <4F8E7A11.7020408@cs.tcd.ie> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.17.140.53] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Commtouch-Refid: str=0001.0A090209.4F8E962B.0127,ss=1,fgs=0 Cc: "irtf-discuss@irtf.org" , Ronald Bonica , "dc@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [dc] [irtf-discuss] "datacenter networking" research group proposal X-BeenThere: dc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Data Center Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:23:51 -0000 > There is a discussion list here: http://www.irtf.org/mailman/options/dcrg= -interest. It has not seen much traffic.=20 > While I keep hearing that people would find such a research group interes= ting (as would I),=20 > there is currently nobody that I know of that is working on crafting a co= herent RG proposal.=20 > Some small group of people need to feel interested enough to create a com= munity here and push the topic forward. Actually, there is a recent draft (draft-stein-cloud-access-00 http://tools= .ietf.org/html/draft-stein-cloud-access-00) which needs an appropriate sanctuary. It is certainly not a proposal for a RG, but could reside in a WG or RG foc= using on clouds, but not limited to intra- and inter- DC connectivity. Y(J)S From stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie Wed Apr 18 01:24:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D2721F867C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:24:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.862 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.862 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q7O+--ALLDUj for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scss.tcd.ie (hermes.scss.tcd.ie [IPv6:2001:770:10:200:889f:cdff:fe8d:ccd2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1509521F8649 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD98171471; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:24:03 +0100 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:user-agent:from:date:message-id:received :received:x-virus-scanned; s=cs; t=1334737439; bh=xEg5tBymRVWXLl b85e5531noCf6CPMP3yK2xe9YKpx0=; b=RU541orLMuEkTfbgSxOQ9734NtL+F5 UduoCKUGBgsI4nbeEyJqlYYU4knUR2bKwJNXXbFutB+g4tIC0Uw0H0VucW9j6Lee rKrwq7jJ8mlMeHgih8QAXqdXiXBLwY5Yj7BYQSbcrwDllWVDeNSA9NyfcrWSyzGY AWyIy2SAJJ2rb6TQKpzAbKrKXygwB9UVVu+BJQdOzBpSrx4Zljl2ArDlVvE5dYbW 1pv/wXPvwi/QtE1nBKKC2HoCdVkfDop9pwKbk+4EZICMfUC2BakMyqcrjZZY+2W9 Bc2aEkHuwjJYyqak1kCYe7Nim1SX1q8EjMf7Lh5Z0UlctpPluYKQAegA== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 016KANa1SrAi; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:23:59 +0100 (IST) Received: from [10.87.48.7] (unknown [86.42.27.239]) by smtp.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 19387171473; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:23:56 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4F8E7A11.7020408@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 09:23:45 +0100 From: Stephen Farrell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dcrg-interest@irtf.org" References: <13205C286662DE4387D9AF3AC30EF456D76A5C7E0D@EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net> <747E9D26-E569-433C-8BB4-7C4DEA4477EA@netapp.com> In-Reply-To: <747E9D26-E569-433C-8BB4-7C4DEA4477EA@netapp.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:15:55 -0700 Cc: "irtf-discuss@irtf.org" , Ronald Bonica , "Eggert, Lars" , "dc@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [dc] [irtf-discuss] "datacenter networking" research group proposal X-BeenThere: dc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Data Center Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:24:08 -0000 Hi Lars, Just in terms of timing, you might want to leave any decisions on this until after the nvo3 chartering discussion in the IETF has resolved itself. Might be that some of those who'd be interested in an RG are focused on the IETF now, and equally, it might be that if a WG is chartered, bits of work that don't fall under the IETF WG charter might be suitable for an RG. I've no idea if that's likely or not, so my note is only about timing, not content. S. On 04/18/2012 09:03 AM, Eggert, Lars wrote: > Hi, > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 19:57, Ronald Bonica wrote: >> This mailing list has been relatively silent for the last month. Also, data center work has migrate to NVO3. So, unless I hear some very strong objection, this list will shut down in Friday, April 20. > > let me take this opportunity to say that I'd remain supportive of an effort to start an IRTF research group on datacenter networking topics (in the broader sense). > > There is a discussion list here: http://www.irtf.org/mailman/options/dcrg-interest. It has not seen much traffic. While I keep hearing that people would find such a research group interesting (as would I), there is currently nobody that I know of that is working on crafting a coherent RG proposal. Some small group of people need to feel interested enough to create a community here and push the topic forward. > > I will leave the dcrg-interest IRTF mailing list up for a few more months in the hope that such a group of people materializes. There were certainly enough topics proposed in the IETF discussion on datacenters, SDN and (dare I say) clouds that are not ready for IETF work but IMO do deserve a home to be further developed. > > Lars Eggert > (IRTF Chair) >