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------=_NextPart_000_4137_01C6E557.B243C8A0-- From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Sun Oct 01 10:14:56 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GU25o-0001RC-Mx for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 10:14:56 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GU25k-0006oG-4G for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 10:14:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GU1xI-000PPK-2o for ccamp-data@psg.com; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 14:06:08 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.1 Received: from [62.23.212.165] (helo=smail.alcatel.fr) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GU1xF-000POw-82; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 14:06:05 +0000 Received: from bemail05.netfr.alcatel.fr (bemail05.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.11]) by smail.alcatel.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/ICT) with ESMTP id k91E5NAs012836; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:05:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <00fa01c6e453$271390d0$d04c460a@china.huawei.com> To: Dan Li Cc: ccamp , Olufemi Komolafe , gjhhit@huawei.com, owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5 September 26, 2003 Message-ID: From: Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:05:19 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BEMAIL05/BE/ALCATEL(Release 5.0.13aHF163 | June 23, 2005) at 10/01/2006 16:05:23, Serialize complete at 10/01/2006 16:05:23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 155.132.180.81 Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 43317e64100dd4d87214c51822b582d1 dan - ok - do we have a sense of the probability of multiple independent nodes failures - is that a common failure scenario operators are facing (and not a marginal case) ? or are we addressing common bugs affecting common equipment - in this case this topics is outside scope of CCAMP ? pls read between the lines i start to be seriously concerned by GMPLS protocol over-engineering - if the set currently available technique is still not enough for base deployment then it means the issue(s) is/are sitting somewhere else - thanks, - d. Dan Li 30/09/2006 07:42 To: Dimitri PAPADIMITRIOU/BE/ALCATEL@ALCATEL cc: ccamp , Olufemi Komolafe , gjhhit@huawei.com, owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, Hi Dimitri, There is nothing wrong with the GR draft, the mechanism described in that draft doesn't need any remedial patch, and it is applied to this draft. The reason we started working on this draft is try to clarify the control plane procedures for a GMPLS network when there are multiple node failures, and describes how full control plane state can be recovered depending on the order in which the nodes restart. Thanks, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Dan Li" Cc: "ccamp" ; "Olufemi Komolafe" ; ; Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:50 AM Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > hi dan > > yes i have a very practical issue - the document would then deal with > remedial to remedial - ... but do we have any feedback on initial > remedials ? > > thanks, > - d. > > > > > > Dan Li > Sent by: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org > 25/09/2006 09:27 > > To: Olufemi Komolafe , gjhhit@huawei.com > cc: ccamp > Subject: Re: Comments on > draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > > > Hi Femi, > > Thanks for your valuable suggestion! > > The intention for this draft is clarify the procedures for multi-nodes > restart, so five typical scenarios have been listed in the draft, I think > most of the failed cases are covered by these five scenarios. As you have > pointed out, these scenarios may be raised due to multiple nodes fail, or > a subsequent control channel failure. Yes, you're right! It may be more > generic to classify these scenarios, such as: "What should happen if a > restarting node fails to get a RecoveryPath/Path message from its > downstream/upstream neighbor?", but I think it may be more clear to > address the specific cases in the draft at least during the initial stage. > > Any comments are very welcome! > > Best regards, > > Dan > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Olufemi Komolafe > To: danli@huawei.com ; gjhhit@huawei.com > Cc: ccamp > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:45 PM > Subject: RE: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > > > Hi, > > While reading this draft it occurred to me that perhaps it might be more > useful to approach this topic from the perspective of "What can go wrong > during graceful restart, what are the consequences and how can it be > fixed?" rather than focusing on the narrower topic of multiple > simultaneous nodal faults. > > For example, Scenario 1 in the draft may be interpreted as "What should > happen if a (non-ingress) restarting node fails to get a RecoveryPath > message from its downstream neighbour?", Scenario 2 is "What should happen > if a (non-ingress) restarting node fails to get a Path message from its > upstream neighbour?" and so on. Whether each of these scenarios arises > due to multiple simultaneous nodal faults (as in the draft) or any other > reason (e.g. a subsequent control channel failure, restarting node being > inundated with messages etc.) is, in my opinion, secondary. I think the > key thing is to identify the potential problems and suggest appropriate > remedial actions, where the authors think existing documentation is > insufficient, rather than focusing on 5 different permutations of multiple > node graceful restart. > > Regards, > Femi > > > > > > From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Zafar Ali (zali) > Sent: 10 July 2006 04:04 > To: danli@huawei.com; gjhhit@huawei.com > Cc: ccamp > Subject: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > > Dear Authors, > > This is Deja-vu to me.... > > Draft draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-restart-ext-05.txt actually had a section on > multiple node restart case and was rejected by the WG as addressing > multiple node restart case is NOT a goal (suffers from the law of > diminishing return). In other words the following statement in the ID- > > "[GR-EXT] also extends the Hello message to exchange information about > the ability to support the RecoveryPath message. > The examples and procedures in [GR-EXT] focus on the description of a > single node restart when adjacent network nodes are operative. > Although the procedures are equally applicable to multi-node restarts, > no detailed explanation is provided." > > is not accurate. Please see section 4 on the earlier version of the > [GR-EXT], > http://www.faqs.org/ftp/pub/internet-drafts/draft-rahman-ccamp-rsvp-restart-extensions-00.txt > . > > Thanks > > Regards... Zafar > > > > > > From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Sun Oct 01 12:23:57 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GU46f-00013v-Dw for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:23:57 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GU46X-0001br-Pz for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:23:57 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GU401-000Cf7-Af for ccamp-data@psg.com; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:17:05 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [80.68.34.49] (helo=mail2.noc.data.net.uk) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GU3zz-000Ces-5K for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:17:03 +0000 Received: from 57-99.dsl.data.net.uk ([80.68.57.99] helo=cortex.aria-networks.com) by mail2.noc.data.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1GU3zv-0005qi-00 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 01 Oct 2006 17:16:59 +0100 Received: from your029b8cecfe ([217.158.132.156] RDNS failed) by cortex.aria-networks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 1 Oct 2006 17:16:58 +0100 Message-ID: <060401c6e574$feb54f20$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: References: Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 17:16:39 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2006 16:16:59.0723 (UTC) FILETIME=[05C2E1B0:01C6E575] Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 36fb765c89ed47dab364ab702a78e8fd Dimitri, I understand your concern about over-engineering. There is a tendency for "protocol engineers" to sit and look for corner cases in the protocol that they might be able to write specifications for. It might be more useful if they wrote implementations and tested the current protocols. But, I don't think Dan is guilty. His draft proposes no protocol extensions and no new procedures. In fact, it is a clarification that no new protocol elements are required - the existing work already covers all cases without any further work being necessary. I think this is a useful thing to do, but not something I would expect to spend a lot of CCAMP cycles on. Perhaps most useful would be to have a review from the authors of the original Graceful Restart draft to confirm that the procedures have been correctly interpreted and applied. As to whether this is a common problem, that might be a question for software stack implementers, chip manufacturers, and power supply vendors. But clearly we thought it was possible for a single control plane instance to fail. A ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Dan Li" Cc: "ccamp" ; "Olufemi Komolafe" ; ; Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > dan - > > ok - do we have a sense of the probability of multiple independent nodes > failures - is that a common failure scenario operators are facing (and not > a marginal case) ? > > or are we addressing common bugs affecting common equipment - in this case > this topics is outside scope of CCAMP ? > > pls read between the lines i start to be seriously concerned by GMPLS > protocol over-engineering - if the set currently available technique is > still not enough for base deployment then it means the issue(s) is/are > sitting somewhere else - > > thanks, > - d. > > > > > Dan Li > 30/09/2006 07:42 > > To: Dimitri PAPADIMITRIOU/BE/ALCATEL@ALCATEL > cc: ccamp , Olufemi Komolafe > , gjhhit@huawei.com, owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org > Subject: Re: Comments on > draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > > > Hi Dimitri, > > There is nothing wrong with the GR draft, the mechanism described in that > draft doesn't need any remedial patch, and it is applied to this draft. > The reason we started working on this draft is try to clarify the control > plane procedures for a GMPLS network when there are multiple node > failures, and describes how full control plane state can be recovered > depending on the order in which the nodes restart. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Dan Li" > Cc: "ccamp" ; "Olufemi Komolafe" ; > ; > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:50 AM > Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > > >> hi dan >> >> yes i have a very practical issue - the document would then deal with >> remedial to remedial - ... but do we have any feedback on initial >> remedials ? >> >> thanks, >> - d. >> >> >> >> >> >> Dan Li >> Sent by: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org >> 25/09/2006 09:27 >> >> To: Olufemi Komolafe , gjhhit@huawei.com >> cc: ccamp >> Subject: Re: Comments on >> draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, >> >> >> Hi Femi, >> >> Thanks for your valuable suggestion! >> >> The intention for this draft is clarify the procedures for multi-nodes >> restart, so five typical scenarios have been listed in the draft, I > think >> most of the failed cases are covered by these five scenarios. As you > have >> pointed out, these scenarios may be raised due to multiple nodes fail, > or >> a subsequent control channel failure. Yes, you're right! It may be more >> generic to classify these scenarios, such as: "What should happen if a >> restarting node fails to get a RecoveryPath/Path message from its >> downstream/upstream neighbor?", but I think it may be more clear to >> address the specific cases in the draft at least during the initial > stage. >> >> Any comments are very welcome! >> >> Best regards, >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Olufemi Komolafe >> To: danli@huawei.com ; gjhhit@huawei.com >> Cc: ccamp >> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:45 PM >> Subject: RE: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, >> >> >> Hi, >> >> While reading this draft it occurred to me that perhaps it might be more > >> useful to approach this topic from the perspective of "What can go wrong > >> during graceful restart, what are the consequences and how can it be >> fixed?" rather than focusing on the narrower topic of multiple >> simultaneous nodal faults. >> >> For example, Scenario 1 in the draft may be interpreted as "What should >> happen if a (non-ingress) restarting node fails to get a RecoveryPath >> message from its downstream neighbour?", Scenario 2 is "What should > happen >> if a (non-ingress) restarting node fails to get a Path message from its >> upstream neighbour?" and so on. Whether each of these scenarios arises >> due to multiple simultaneous nodal faults (as in the draft) or any other > >> reason (e.g. a subsequent control channel failure, restarting node being > >> inundated with messages etc.) is, in my opinion, secondary. I think the > >> key thing is to identify the potential problems and suggest appropriate >> remedial actions, where the authors think existing documentation is >> insufficient, rather than focusing on 5 different permutations of > multiple >> node graceful restart. >> >> Regards, >> Femi >> >> >> >> >> >> From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] On > Behalf >> Of Zafar Ali (zali) >> Sent: 10 July 2006 04:04 >> To: danli@huawei.com; gjhhit@huawei.com >> Cc: ccamp >> Subject: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, >> >> Dear Authors, >> >> This is Deja-vu to me.... >> >> Draft draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-restart-ext-05.txt actually had a section on > >> multiple node restart case and was rejected by the WG as addressing >> multiple node restart case is NOT a goal (suffers from the law of >> diminishing return). In other words the following statement in the ID- >> >> "[GR-EXT] also extends the Hello message to exchange information > about >> the ability to support the RecoveryPath message. >> The examples and procedures in [GR-EXT] focus on the description of a > >> single node restart when adjacent network nodes are operative. >> Although the procedures are equally applicable to multi-node > restarts, >> no detailed explanation is provided." >> >> is not accurate. Please see section 4 on the earlier version of the >> [GR-EXT], >> > http://www.faqs.org/ftp/pub/internet-drafts/draft-rahman-ccamp-rsvp-restart-extensions-00.txt > >> . >> >> Thanks >> >> Regards... Zafar >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Mon Oct 02 05:24:37 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GUK2P-0002tX-Qk for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:24:37 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GUK2O-0000j1-Gy for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:24:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GUJuw-000A9B-QE for ccamp-data@psg.com; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:16:54 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 Received: from [80.68.34.48] (helo=mail1.noc.data.net.uk) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GUJuv-000A8q-C7 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:16:53 +0000 Received: from 57-99.dsl.data.net.uk ([80.68.57.99] helo=cortex.aria-networks.com) by mail1.noc.data.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1GUJv2-0002JB-00 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:17:00 +0100 Received: from your029b8cecfe ([217.158.132.30] RDNS failed) by cortex.aria-networks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:16:47 +0100 Message-ID: <067601c6e603$77e14460$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Fw: 67th IETF - DRAFT Meeting Agenda Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:15:39 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2006 09:16:49.0617 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DC7BC10:01C6E603] Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Hi, The early, draft, unconfirmed agenda for San Diego has CCAMP on Monday morning at 9am. Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "IETF Agenda" To: "Working Group Chairs" Cc: ; Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:03 AM Subject: 67th IETF - DRAFT Meeting Agenda > The DRAFT agenda for the 67th IETF Meeting can be found at: > http://www.ietf.org/meetings/67-agenda.txt > > Please send comments to agenda@ietf.org > > Upcoming Cutoff Dates: > October 11, Wednesday - Cutoff date for requests to reschedule Working > Group and BOF meetings 09:00 ET (13:00 UTC/GMT) > October 16, Monday - Final agenda to be published. 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(2006-08-29) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DATE_IN_PAST_24_48,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=no version=3.1.5 Received: from [80.68.34.49] (helo=mail2.noc.data.net.uk) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GWfXb-0005yB-Ky for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:46:33 +0000 Received: from 57-99.dsl.data.net.uk ([80.68.57.99] helo=cortex.aria-networks.com) by mail2.noc.data.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1GWfXW-00044i-00 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:46:26 +0100 Received: from your029b8cecfe ([217.158.132.144] RDNS failed) by cortex.aria-networks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 8 Oct 2006 21:46:26 +0100 Message-ID: <02eb01c6eb1a$8c6c1b50$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Cc: , Subject: Fw: I-D ACTION:draft-andersson-rtg-gmpls-change-04.txt Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 13:52:56 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2006 20:46:27.0155 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3317A30:01C6EB1A] Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 29dc808194f5fb921c09d0040806d6eb Hi, A new revision of the MPLS and GMPLS change process I-D is available. This process appears to be stable and we are thinking of taking to the IESG quite soon, so review it now or risk having to live with it. The changes in this revision are largely to clarify the use of the Preliminary Investigation phase. === Section 1.2 Change 2119 boiler plate to Although this document is not a protocol definition, the key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119 [RFC2119]. This usage is chosen to make the steps and procedures completely clear. === Section 2.3 final paragraph ADD It should be noted that the first stage in the change process is an optional Preliminary Investigation (see Section 4.2.1). This stage is explicitly included to allow external organizations to discuss requirements and proposed uses of the (G)MPLS technologies without the need to first develop Internet-Drafts, and builds on existing liaison processes where they exist. === Section 2.4 ADD o Preliminary Investigation An optional preliminary phase that may be used to exchange views on a proposed requirement and usage of the (G)MPLS technologies without going to the effort of writing an Internet-Draft. This phase may be particularly useful to SDOs that have already invested heavily in documenting a problem statement, or may be used by anyone who wishes to hold discussions on the use of (G)MPLS. === Section 3 ADD para 2 Whenever there is reason to believe that a particular problem may be solved by use of or extensions to the (G)MPLS protocols, a preliminary investigation phase may be used to discuss the requirements with the IETF. This may lead to an understanding that the problem is already solved, is outside the scope of the IETF, or requires more investigation possibly leading to changes to the (G)MPLS protocols. === Section 4.2.1 para 2 ADD In fact, although this step is described as lightweight because no Internet-Draft is required and because the nature of the step is discursive, it may be the case that this step involves considerable technical discussions and may, in fact, be an extensive, substantive exchange of opinions. === Section 4.2.1 para 3 s/may/MAY/ === Section 4.2.1 final para ADD A possible outcome of this preliminary invsetigation is that the requirements and problem are understood, but agreed to be out of scope for the IETF. Alternatively it may be that the problem can be solved with existing protocols. === Section 5.2 bullet 1 ADD (see Section 4.2.1) === Section 5.2 bullet 2 ADD (see Section 4.2.1) === Section 8 para 4 s/may/MAY/ === ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:50 PM Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-andersson-rtg-gmpls-change-04.txt >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > Title : Change Process for Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) and > Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Protocols and Procedures > Author(s) : L. Andersson, A. Farrel > Filename : draft-andersson-rtg-gmpls-change-04.txt > Pages : 22 > Date : 2006-10-4 > > The issues surrounding the extensibility of IETF protocols have been > widely debated. 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One result of this popularity is a large > number of suggestions for modifications and extensions. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-andersson-rtg-gmpls-change-04.txt > > To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of > the message. > You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > to change your subscription settings. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6EAF5.7A706070-- From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Mon Oct 09 06:21:04 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GWsFs-0002kv-IV for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 06:21:04 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GWsFo-0007bQ-65 for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 06:21:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GWs41-0009BG-8t for ccamp-data@psg.com; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:08:49 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from [80.68.34.48] (helo=mail1.noc.data.net.uk) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GWs3z-0009A7-O2 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:08:48 +0000 Received: from 57-99.dsl.data.net.uk ([80.68.57.99] helo=cortex.aria-networks.com) by mail1.noc.data.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1GWs47-00082v-00 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 11:08:56 +0100 Received: from your029b8cecfe ([217.158.132.105] RDNS failed) by cortex.aria-networks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:08:45 +0100 Message-ID: <041601c6eb8a$e2dce760$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: CCAMP agenda for San Diego Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:08:28 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2006 10:08:45.0616 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7F3B300:01C6EB8A] Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Hi, Deborah and I will be working on the agenda some time early next week. Please send us your requests. Recall that the purpose of the meeting is to have active and constructive debate, not to present your work. Everyone can read your drafts so there is no requirement to present them. You should be asking for an agenda slot if you feel that: - there is some point that has been discussed on the list that needs further debate - you have questions or issues that you need the working group to help you resolve - you have made a substantial change to a draft that you think people will have missed and might object to New work can also be considered for an agenda slot where you would expect to discover whether there is support for the work. Criteria include: - does the work address a charter milestone? - is the work in scope for the working group? - has the draft been discussed on the mailing list? 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Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Internet-Drafts Submission Cutoff Dates for the 67th IETF Meeting in San Diego, California, USA > > There are two (2) Internet-Draft cutoff dates for the 67th > IETF Meeting in San Diego, California, USA: > > October 16th: Cutoff Date for Initial (i.e., version -00) > Internet-Draft Submissions > > All initial Internet-Drafts (version -00) must be submitted by Monday, > October 16th at 9:00 AM ET. As always, all initial submissions with a > filename beginning with "draft-ietf" must be approved by the > appropriate WG Chair before they can be processed or announced. 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01:20:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6ED9C.97650920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 3.7 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6ED9C.97650920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, VldAGRA for LESS http://www.tikindefunkadesinmde.com =20 CHAPTER 9 Big coward kill little man with sword when little man got no ax. 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CHAPTER 9
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media in the modern world? Should the media have to maintain a in a bo= ok.In this way the art is not dependant on the computer
and applications which enable artists to create a variety of cancer ra= tes for people regularly exposed to radiation and an in a book.In this way = the art is not dependant on the computer
consciousness will arise. Or the consciousness already in place there= as well. Change or not comes from growth or rather can
radiation business - not radio, TV, magazines or newspapers". reality = is "the way" and will end racial inequality and give the are not able to ex= plore a locale with your five senses. It is
contemporary to me at least. Linear logic has become only one admire = the same visual artists, musicians, actors/actresses, and
artificial life. Computer generated living beings live and everything= we construct is about. We are here, alive, so why not to prepare for care= ers in these new areas. Fortunately technology
text. Totally unforgiving of errors in letters & case it exerts thoug= hts right here are culturally specific to some one who
designer. A balance needs to be struck between designer and culturally= significant images. Can these qualities be duplicated hallucinogenic narc= otics available in the market. People will
talk on how important it is!" He had been impressed by the wood and me= tal have enhanced and elevated native artwork.
disastrous. Even a general recognmition by society to admit and descr= iption. This type of connectedness or advanced communication its craft. To = eliminate the craftmanship you eliminate the
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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6EEF7.AC9F9470-- From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Sat Oct 14 18:06:56 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GYrei-0005rX-09 for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:06:56 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GYreg-00089U-Iw for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:06:55 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GYrWq-000LFR-TY for ccamp-data@psg.com; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:58:48 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from [66.154.82.3] (helo=cubert.e-centre.net) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GYrWp-000LEg-Qg for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:58:48 +0000 Received: from [10.3.1.19] (helo=barracuda2.stayonline.net) by cubert.e-centre.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GYrWl-0003Um-2W; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:58:43 -0400 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1160863123-8289-8-0 X-Barracuda-URL: http://10.3.1.19:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from et-iad-16.site.stayonline.net (unknown [204.94.250.2]) by barracuda2.stayonline.net (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id 3132D51A940; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from your029b8cecfe ([172.16.1.84]) by et-iad-16.site.stayonline.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k9EM03mT024489; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:00:08 GMT Message-ID: <2aed01c6efdb$e7454270$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , Cc: "George Swallow" X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Fw: I-D ACTION:draft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-spec-00.txt Subject: Fw: I-D ACTION:draft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-spec-00.txt Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:56:57 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at stayonline.net X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=4.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.02, rules version 3.0.23277 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 10ba05e7e8a9aa6adb025f426bef3a30 Heads up on this I-D. We are proposing a backward-compatible way of conveying additional error information in RSVP. This will make it a lot easier for user-defined error codes to be signalled, and is extensible for the inclusion of error-specific details. Your comments would be welcomed. Thanks, Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-spec-00.txt >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > Title : User Defined Errors for RSVP > Author(s) : G. Swallow, A. Farrel > Filename : draft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-spec-00.txt > Pages : 8 > Date : 2006-10-13 > > > The Resource ReserVation Protocol (RSVP) defines an ERROR_SPEC object > for communicating errors. That object has a defined format that > permits the definition of 256 error codes. As RSVP has been > developed and extended, the convention has been to be conservative in > communicating errors. Further, no provision for user defined errors > exists in RSVP. > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-spec-00.txt > > To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of > the message. > You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > to change your subscription settings. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Different MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Sun Oct 15 14:15:40 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZAWS-0005Tp-J7 for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:15:40 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZAWO-0003bd-Rq for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:15:40 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZAQF-0003wn-EQ for ccamp-data@psg.com; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:09:15 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from [80.68.34.49] (helo=mail2.noc.data.net.uk) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZAQD-0003w8-Dv for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:09:14 +0000 Received: from 57-99.dsl.data.net.uk ([80.68.57.99] helo=cortex.aria-networks.com) by mail2.noc.data.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1GZAQ7-00051W-00 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:09:07 +0100 Received: from your029b8cecfe ([64.47.156.51] RDNS failed) by cortex.aria-networks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:09:09 +0100 Message-ID: <2c5301c6f084$ff738d30$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Liaison received form the ITU-T Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:08:33 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2006 18:09:09.0897 (UTC) FILETIME=[030A6F90:01C6F085] Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f66b12316365a3fe519e75911daf28a8 Hi, We were copied on a liaison from ITU-T SG15 to the OIF discussing call and connection modification and deletion. You can see the liaison at https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/liaison_detail.cgi?detail_id=271 The text is included below. The liaison is for information only and we are not required to respond, but if anyone has anything they need to say... Adrian === Q14/15 thanks OIF for the liaison statement (oif2006.258.02, TD283/3-SG15-2006) on the effort to align the signalling procedure in G.7713.2, OIF UNI/ENNI, and IETF for connection deletion. We have tried to research the underlying rationale for the difference between G.7713.2 and RFC 3473 regarding this procedure. Note that G.7713.1, G.7713.2, and G.7713.3 were developed at the same time and it was a goal to maintain protocol behaviour consistency across the three. We think that one consideration might have been related to usage of a somewhat similar mechanism in previous ITU-T Q.931 signalling protocol to support a 3 message release sequence, where there is an initial message sent to notify the remote end that release is requested. However, in this procedure the initial message always results in release of the connection. As a result the A bit is not used in G.7713.x for setting a permanent administrative state. It might therefore be used by G.7713.2 in the Path/Resv message to initiate deletion from an intermediate node instead of using the Notify message (as described in section 7.3 of RFC3473) so as to save one extra message type (i.e., the Notify message type). In the management plane, prior to deleting (or performing maintenance on) a resource, it is a common practice to put the resource in the administrative "locked" state (equivalent to the administrative-down status). Our current thinking is that a similar feature in the control plane is worth consideration so as to maintain the same operational principle as in the management plane. Q14/15 agrees with OIF's desire to support maximal alignment among these documents. We would like to have a structured approach for the alignment effort. Note that the existing G.7713 does not have abstract messages in support of connection deletion from intermediate nodes and connection state modification. So the first step is to develop the abstract messages to support these functionalities. Once these new abstract messages are defined, corresponding RSVP protocol details can be added to G.7713.2. The impact of the G.7713 and G.7713.2 changes on G.7713.1 and G.7713.3 might need to be considered too. SG15/Q14 would like to collaborate with the OIF in the alignment effort. Here is a summary of required enhancements: - Connection Modification, currently for further study in G.7713 (SP19), would have to be defined. This would allow for the capability to change the administrative status of a connection without deleting it. Once the abstract message is defined, the RSVP messages in G.7713.2 could be modified to align with RFC3473 and proper use of the A-bit. - An abstract message for deletion from intermediate nodes would have to be defined in G.7713. This message would then be mapped to proper RSVP protocol details in line with RFC3473. Regarding the proposed solutions, we have the following comments: - For both proposals, there appears to be limitations in the backwards compatibility and it is not clear what the behaviour is when the old version (1.0) is surrounded by newer version (2.0). - oif2006.182.00 lacks a clear mapping of RSVP messages to abstract messages. - oif2006.232.00 seems to require provisioning/discovery of neighbour version for compatibility. - oif2006.232.00 introduces new abstract messages (Connection Modify Request/Connection Modify Indication/Connection Release Notify) that could be incorporated into G.7713 An electronic copy of this liaison statement is available at: ftp://ftp.itu.int/tsg15opticaltransport/COMMUNICATIONS/index.html From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Sun Oct 15 16:33:27 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZCfn-0001IV-Ch for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:33:27 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZCfl-00082J-VM for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:33:27 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZCZk-000Jwe-LO for ccamp-data@psg.com; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:27:12 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from [80.68.34.48] (helo=mail1.noc.data.net.uk) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZCZj-000Jvq-Ib for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:27:12 +0000 Received: from 57-99.dsl.data.net.uk ([80.68.57.99] helo=cortex.aria-networks.com) by mail1.noc.data.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1GZCa4-0003l2-00 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:27:32 +0100 Received: from your029b8cecfe ([64.47.156.51] RDNS failed) by cortex.aria-networks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:27:07 +0100 Message-ID: <2cea01c6f098$454a72c0$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Jim Jones" Cc: , "Bill Fenner" , "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" , "Ross Callon" Subject: Notification of work in the IETF CCAMP working group Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:25:02 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2006 20:27:08.0027 (UTC) FILETIME=[4930D4B0:01C6F098] Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 50a516d93fd399dc60588708fd9a3002 Dear Jim, We would like to take this opportunity to inform you of the progress of some work items within the CCAMP working group of the IETF that may be of interest and relevance to your members. A new RFC has been published. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4631.txt provides some small updates and clarifications to the SNMP MIB module for the Link Management Protocol (LMP). It obsoletes RFC 4327, the previous version of this MIB module. Section 14 of the new RFC shows a list of the changes. The CCAMP working group continues to make good progress in many areas. Full details of the work of CCAMP can be found at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ccamp-charter.html from where all of the latest revisions of the various RFCs and Internet-Drafts can be freely downloaded without charge. Four Internet-Drafts that may be of particular interest to your members. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-00.txt is a relatively new work item that examines the requirements and procedures for using GMPLS protocols to support Virtual Concatenation Groups across TDM networks. We believe this may be of particular interest to you in support of Ethernet services over TDM. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-02.txt describes extensions to the OSPF routing protocol to satisfy the ASON routing requirements as set out in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4258.txt in the light of the evaluation provided in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-eval-03.txt (both of which were written with considerable help from some of your individual members). http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-00.txt which we have brought to your attention before, presents a GMPLS Sender_TSpec (and hence a Flowspec) for Ethernet Traffic Parameters as described in MEF.10. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-rsvp-te-call-01.txt describes extensions to RSVP-TE for the establishment and management of Calls in GMPLS networks, and for the association of LSPs (connections) with those Calls. Regards, Adrian Farrel and Deborah Brungard From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Sun Oct 15 18:34:49 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZEZF-0007O0-SO for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:34:49 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZEMd-0002Zi-U4 for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:21:49 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZEG4-0001wB-22 for ccamp-data@psg.com; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:15:00 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from [143.209.238.162] (helo=audl953.usa.alcatel.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZEG2-0001vp-U0 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:14:59 +0000 Received: from usdalsbhs02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com (usdalsbhs02.usa.alcatel.com [172.22.216.13]) by audl953.usa.alcatel.com (ALCANET) with ESMTP id k9FMEroL024085; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:14:54 -0500 Received: from USDALSMBS02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com ([172.22.216.7]) by usdalsbhs02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:14:53 -0500 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Notification of work in the IETF CCAMP working group X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:14:48 -0500 Message-ID: <606FB133B98FEE42B71162BE99530B1D5ABC02@USDALSMBS02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> In-Reply-To: <2cea01c6f098$454a72c0$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Notification of work in the IETF CCAMP working group Thread-Index: AcbwmFtbagko8t9ARCuJMETlXg+vwwADrriw From: "JONES Jim D" To: "Adrian Farrel" Cc: , "Bill Fenner" , "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" , "Ross Callon" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2006 22:14:53.0869 (UTC) FILETIME=[572205D0:01C6F0A7] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 143.209.238.34 Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bdc523f9a54890b8a30dd6fd53d5d024 Dear Adrian and Deborah, Thank you for the timely update. I will bring these to the attention of the OIF membership at our 4Q06 meetings taking place in Dallas this coming week. Best Regards, Jim Jones OIF Technical Committee Chair -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20 Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:25 PM To: JONES Jim D Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Bill Fenner; Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS; Ross Callon Subject: Notification of work in the IETF CCAMP working group Dear Jim, We would like to take this opportunity to inform you of the progress of some=20 work items within the CCAMP working group of the IETF that may be of=20 interest and relevance to your members. A new RFC has been published. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4631.txt provides some small updates and=20 clarifications to the SNMP MIB module for the Link Management Protocol=20 (LMP). It obsoletes RFC 4327, the previous version of this MIB module.=20 Section 14 of the new RFC shows a list of the changes. The CCAMP working group continues to make good progress in many areas. Full=20 details of the work of CCAMP can be found at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ccamp-charter.html from where all of the=20 latest revisions of the various RFCs and Internet-Drafts can be freely=20 downloaded without charge. Four Internet-Drafts that may be of particular interest to your members. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-00. txt=20 is a relatively new work item that examines the requirements and procedures=20 for using GMPLS protocols to support Virtual Concatenation Groups across TDM=20 networks. We believe this may be of particular interest to you in support of=20 Ethernet services over TDM. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing- ospf-02.txt=20 describes extensions to the OSPF routing protocol to satisfy the ASON=20 routing requirements as set out in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4258.txt in=20 the light of the evaluation provided in=20 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing- eval-03.txt=20 (both of which were written with considerable help from some of your=20 individual members). http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-pa rameters-00.txt=20 which we have brought to your attention before, presents a GMPLS=20 Sender_TSpec (and hence a Flowspec) for Ethernet Traffic Parameters as=20 described in MEF.10. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-rsvp-te-call- 01.txt=20 describes extensions to RSVP-TE for the establishment and management of=20 Calls in GMPLS networks, and for the association of LSPs (connections) with=20 those Calls. Regards, Adrian Farrel and Deborah Brungard=20 From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Sun Oct 15 18:34:52 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZEZI-0007O5-LO for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:34:52 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZEM9-0002TG-3w for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:21:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZEHW-0002MT-WD for ccamp-data@psg.com; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:16:31 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from [80.68.34.48] (helo=mail1.noc.data.net.uk) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZEHV-0002LZ-GG for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:16:30 +0000 Received: from 57-99.dsl.data.net.uk ([80.68.57.99] helo=cortex.aria-networks.com) by mail1.noc.data.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1GZEHs-00059T-00 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:16:52 +0100 Received: from your029b8cecfe ([64.47.156.25] RDNS failed) by cortex.aria-networks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:16:27 +0100 Message-ID: <2d4d01c6f0a7$8c6ac510$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Jim Jones" Cc: , "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" , "Bill Fenner" , "Ross Callon" Subject: Response to your communication on Ethernet Traffic Parameters Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:16:13 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2006 22:16:28.0053 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F455C50:01C6F0A7] Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Hi Jim, In August the OIF sent CCAMP a communication about the use of the Ethernet Traffic parameters described in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-00.txt The communication asked a specific question: "One concern was expressed during the discussion in our meeting: the proposed format contains a switching granularity subfield that defines whether port or frame granularity switching is used, and there were comments that it is not the granularity of switching that needs to be specified, but the portion of the frame that is considered in forwarding. These are the Ethernet layers defined by IEEE standards that the OIF is considering. For example, we are currently looking at both Ethernet Private Line and Ethernet Virtual Private Line. In the latter case, switching is performed based on the VLAN identifier value, however the frame is still what is switched. We believe the terminology used in the new Tspec format may warrant further consideration in CCAMP." We agree, when frame-based switching is being applied it is important for an implementation to know what constitutes the label within each received frame. Without this knowledge, it is (of course) impossible to correctly switch the frames. However, it is not the job of the traffic parameters (i.e. the TSpec) to convey this information. Label type information is conveyed in the Generalized Label Request object. Specifically, the switching type is used to indicate what type of switching is required, although in many cases the label type should be obvious from the context of the TE link. The CCAMP working group is open to the specification of values for inclusion in the Generalized Label Request to identify different Ethernet frame switching paradigms, but please note that there are currently no Ethernet frame switching types defined as acceptable by the IEEE. When the IEEE has defined suitable data plane profiles, the CCAMP working group will be happy to accept work that clarifies how signaling should be used. Regards, Adrian Farrel and Deborah Brungard CCAMP Working Group Co-Chairs From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Sun Oct 15 23:31:00 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZJBs-0002aj-CZ for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:31:00 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GZJBr-00005V-0v for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:31:00 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZJ0U-00070B-Lc for ccamp-data@psg.com; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:19:14 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.5 (2006-08-29) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from [143.209.238.159] (helo=audl952.usa.alcatel.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GZJ0T-0006zt-HD for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:19:14 +0000 Received: from usdalsbhs01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com (usdalsbhs01.usa.alcatel.com [172.22.216.19]) by audl952.usa.alcatel.com (ALCANET) with ESMTP id k9G3J374005704; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:19:03 -0500 Received: from USDALSMBS02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com ([172.22.216.7]) by usdalsbhs01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:19:03 -0500 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Response to your communication on Ethernet Traffic Parameters Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:19:01 -0500 Message-ID: <606FB133B98FEE42B71162BE99530B1D5ABC1E@USDALSMBS02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> In-Reply-To: <2d4d01c6f0a7$8c6ac510$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Response to your communication on Ethernet Traffic Parameters Thread-Index: Acbwp51hcp2hcoCMQ7KSsC1inpoRVQAKfJQg From: "JONES Jim D" To: "Adrian Farrel" Cc: , "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" , "Bill Fenner" , "Ross Callon" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2006 03:19:03.0295 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4A370F0:01C6F0D1] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 143.209.238.34 Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 6cca30437e2d04f45110f2ff8dc1b1d5 Dear Adrian and Deborah, Thank you for this information. I will make sure this is communicated in our 4Q06 meetings taking place in Dallas this coming week. Best Regards, Jim Jones OIF Technical Committee Chair=20 -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20 Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:16 PM To: JONES Jim D Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS; Bill Fenner; Ross Callon Subject: Response to your communication on Ethernet Traffic Parameters Hi Jim, In August the OIF sent CCAMP a communication about the use of the Ethernet Traffic parameters described in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-pa rameters-00.txt The communication asked a specific question: "One concern was expressed during the discussion in our meeting: the proposed format contains a switching granularity subfield that defines whether port or frame granularity switching is used, and there were comments that it is not the granularity of switching that needs to be specified, but the portion of the frame that is considered in forwarding. These are the Ethernet layers defined by IEEE standards that the OIF is considering. For example, we are currently looking at both Ethernet Private Line and Ethernet Virtual Private Line. In the latter case, switching is performed based on the VLAN identifier value, however the frame is still what is switched. We believe the terminology used in the new Tspec format may warrant further consideration in CCAMP." We agree, when frame-based switching is being applied it is important for an implementation to know what constitutes the label within each received frame. Without this knowledge, it is (of course) impossible to correctly switch the frames. However, it is not the job of the traffic parameters (i.e. the TSpec) to convey this information. Label type information is conveyed in the Generalized Label Request object. Specifically, the switching type is used to indicate what type of switching is required, although in many cases the label type should be obvious from the context of the TE link. The CCAMP working group is open to the specification of values for inclusion in the Generalized Label Request to identify different Ethernet frame switching paradigms, but please note that there are currently no Ethernet frame switching types defined as acceptable by the IEEE. When the IEEE has defined suitable data plane profiles, the CCAMP working group will be happy to accept work that clarifies how signaling should be used. 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for ccamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:16:37 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c6f10b$f6b8fa90$67f1a8c0@mwew> Reply-To: "Faigel Kantor" From: "Faigel Kantor" To: ccamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Re: VmlAGRA Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:15:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6F0D1.4A5A2290" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6F0D1.4A5A2290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, VmlAGRA for LESS http://www.cadesinkiponlondetuns.com =20 in agreement. 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Received: from cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by host-64-47-156-150.masergy.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99686291C52; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:55:24 -0400 (EDT) To: Tom Petch Cc: "Adrian Farrel" , ccamp@ops.ietf.org, mpls@lists.ietf.org Cc: swallow@cisco.com Subject: Re: [mpls] Fw: I-D ACTION:draft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-spec-00.txt In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:00:02 +0200." <042501c6f144$a5a10060$0601a8c0@pc6> From: George Swallow X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4.3; nmh 1.1-RC3; GNU Emacs 21.2.1 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:55:24 -0400 Message-Id: <20061016215524.99686291C52@host-64-47-156-150.masergy.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2006 21:55:21.0550 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6CA16E0:01C6F16D] DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; l=549; t=1161035740; x=1161899740; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=sjdkim8002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=swallow@cisco.com; z=From:George=20Swallow=20 |Subject:Re=3A=20[mpls]=20Fw=3A=20I-D=20ACTION=3Adraft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-sp ec-00.txt=20; X=v=3Dcisco.com=3B=20h=3DBSf0QnyI+NsvPUBp+XL3Z0pm2lk=3D; b=bkWlC46WS8F4MpXQuUoxpX0DRb3Fqo+cRhKVAdqZHY/bDF2tSk4RPEvEYbVZomaknxFlOfTu GQ5Tkt56CyUh2WxoU/RDCwsIWWIlOrzsaSQDmduC4zCV21s35OgepEFb; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-8.cisco.com; header.From=swallow@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com verified; ); Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 > I wonder why the IEEE-controlled OUI is used to identify an organisation. 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No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.5 Received: from [216.246.11.148] (helo=esc71.midphase.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GaAzh-000GJl-5f for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:58:01 +0000 Received: from esc71.midphase.com ([216.246.11.148] helo=LC1.labn.net) by esc71.midphase.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GaAzV-00035L-R8; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:57:50 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018085028.06106aa0@labn.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:57:48 -0400 To: "Peng He" From: Lou Berger Subject: Re: Internet Draft draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-segment-recovery-03.txt Cc: lberger@labn.net,ccamp In-Reply-To: <406e32c00610171123v118e5a39taa90deb8d9f7dd5@mail.gmail.com > References: <406e32c00610171123v118e5a39taa90deb8d9f7dd5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc71.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ops.ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 Peng, I think this is a path computation/engineering question more than one of signaling semantics. The only *required* restriction/implication on EROs is already listed in the draft, namely: The first subobject MUST indicate the node that is to originate the recovery LSP, i.e. the segment branch node. The address used SHOULD also be listed in the ERO or another SERO. other than that, there's no required change, i.e., as always it's up to the TE application (and the PCE function) to decide which parts of the ERO should be loose or strict. From the practical application standpoint, I certainly see the value in the use of some strict subobjects. Lou At 02:23 PM 10/17/2006, Peng He wrote: >Hello Lou, > >I am reading your draft on segment recovery. I wonder if the ERO (of >the working LSP) in the PATH message must be strict? 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--Boundary_(ID_aq3eSeWQIxbmzn/FjChoBA)-- --Boundary_(ID_8vBocTyTmW5TkwflmhmKow) Content-type: text/plain; name=draft-yong-ccamp-ason-gmpls-autobw-service-00.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=draft-yong-ccamp-ason-gmpls-autobw-service-00.txt CCAMP Working Group L. Yong Internet-Draft Y. Lee Intended status: Informational Huawei USA Expires: April 21, 2007 October 18, 2006 ASON/GMPLS Extension for Reservation and Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service draft-yong-ccamp-ason-gmpls-autobw-service-00 Status of this Memo By submitting this Internet-Draft, each author represents that any applicable patent or other IPR claims of which he or she is aware have been or will be disclosed, and any of which he or she becomes aware will be disclosed, in accordance with Section 6 of BCP 79. Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet- Drafts. Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference material or to cite them other than as "work in progress." The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt. The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html. This Internet-Draft will expire on April 21, 2007. Copyright Notice Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2006). Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 1] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 Abstract The draft presents ASON/GMPLS architecture extension for reservation and time based automatic bandwidth services. It introduces additional service intelligence function to the control plane. It describes the service scenarios and procedures for automatic bandwidth service. It also discusses the potential services enabled by the service intelligence function. Table of Contents 1. Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1.1. Conventions used in this document . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 1.2. Terminology . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 1.3. Acronyms . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 2. Motivation for Reservation and Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 3. ASON/GMPLS Architecture Extension for Reservation and Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 3.1. Architecture . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 3.2. Reservation Service Activation and Deactivation Procedures . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 3.3. Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service . . . . . . . . . . 12 3.4. Protocol between Reservation System and Control Plane . . 14 3.5. Time Based Connection Path Management . . . . . . . . . . 14 4. Multi-Layer and Multi-Domain Networks . . . . . . . . . . . . 17 5. Architecture Advantages . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 6. Other Architecture Solution . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 7. Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21 8. IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22 9. Acknowledgements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23 10. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24 10.1. Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24 10.2. Informative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24 Authors' Addresses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25 Intellectual Property and Copyright Statements . . . . . . . . . . 26 Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 2] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 1. Introduction ASON and GMPLS based architectures have been developed for a long time in standard bodies. One of objectives is to allow user instantly request a bandwidth from optical transport networks using standard protocols. We refer to this model as instant bandwidth service. The user could be a customer, a client from a different network layer or from a different administration domain. This model is adopted from traditional telephony networks, where the network instantly establishes a connection path when a call request comes and takes down the connection when the call finishes. Internet technology boosts the network intelligence capability, which drives a desire of building the similar intelligence in an optical transport network and thus enabling an instant bandwidth service in which connection is instantly provided upon the service request from a user. Although the instant bandwidth service is a prevalent mode in ASON/ GMPLS control plane architecture, some dedicate bandwidth services such as private line are provided based on a reservation. For example, traditional private line services have been offered in the way that customer needs to order the service first through an administrative system, then carrier set up the circuit and work with the customer to verify the connection paths. Although this service model is rather rigid and operation intensive, for a permanent connection and a large bandwidth connection, a carrier still prefers a way to do reservation and time based bandwidth service. In addition, some customer may want to reserve the service ahead based on the future needs and wants the bandwidth to be guaranteed at a specific time it desires. We refer to this capability as reservation based automatic bandwidth service through out this document. Another consideration is that although customer connection could be dynamic, sometimes the traffic presents a certain pattern as time, as an alternate solution for the instant bandwidth service, a connection could be managed as a function of time. We refer to this capability as time based automatic bandwidth service through out this document. This document introduces ASON/GMPLS architecture extension to support reservation and time based automatic bandwidth service. It presents the application scenarios and service procedures. It also describes potential new components in a control plane to support the services. In addition, the comparison between instant bandwidth service and reservation based bandwidth service is discussed. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 3] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 1.1. Conventions used in this document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 [RFC2119]. 1.2. Terminology Client Layer: In multi-layer networks, client layer is the layer that could request a service from the server layer. For example, IP client layer request a bandwidth from OTN server layer. Connection Manager: A entity that establish and remove a connection and maintain all existing connections. Event Register: A entity that hold all the time related events and announce an event when its specified time arrives. Policy Manager: A entity that manage all the policy profiles. Policy Profile: A entity that gather all the policy rules associated with a connection or a set of connections. Policy Rules: A rule associated with a connection. It may relate to an event or time. Reservation based automatic bandwidth service: The connection request could be booked in carrier reservation system ahead of service time. When the service time arrives, the network could automatically build up the connection. Reservation System: A system can book a connection reservation from a customer. Server Layer: In multi-layer networks, server layer is the layer that could provide a service to its client layer. Time based automatic bandwidth service: The connection path or bandwidth could be managed as a function of time. 1.3. Acronyms AIS Alarm Indication Signal ASON Automatically Switched Optical Network DOM Day Of a Month Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 4] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 ENNI External Network to Network Interface. GMPLS Generalized Multi-protocol Label Switching HOY Holiday Of a Year NE Network Element NMS Network Management System OTN Optical Transport Network SDH Synchronous Digital Hierarchy SONET Synchronous Optical Network TDM Time Division Multiplexing TOD Time of a Day UNEQ-P Unequipped Path UNI User Network Interface Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 5] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 2. Motivation for Reservation and Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service IP network success motivates people to develop network intelligence in an optical transport network. One objective is to enable automatic connection route selection, connection path establishment and removal, and connection management in an optical network and automatic interworking with other layer network such as IP network. Another objective is to allow user to instantly request a network bandwidth when it needs. The control plane based network architecture is defined by both IETF [RFC3945] and ITU-T [ITU-T G.8080]. Numerous protocols have been developed by IETF since then. Current instant based bandwidth service model supported in ASON/GMPLS architecture is shown in Figure 1. The network contains a control plane and a data plane. A user or client equipment connects to a network element (node) via physical interface. This interface is called User Network Interface(UNI) [RFC4208] [ITU-T G.8080]. There is a signaling channel between a user and the network. When a user needs a bandwidth from one point to another, it can send a connection request to the control plane via the signaling channel. The request will specify the pre-defined network source and destination node addresses, port IDs, bandwidth, and other service parameters. The control plane will process the request, select connection route(s) in the network and build the connection path(s) in the data plane according the service request. After the user receives the confirmation message about the connection completion, user could start data transmission over the data plane. The data stream is then transmitted along the reserved path toward the destination. Figure 2 show the signaling flows for the connection establishment and data transmission.[RFC4208] [RFC3473]. When a user completes the bandwidth usage, it sends a disconnect request to the network, the network takes down the connection path and releases the bandwidth for reuse. Signaling Channel | | __ |-----------------------------| V __ | |-----| Control Plane |-----| | | | UNI |-----------------------------| UNI | | |__|=====| Data Plane |=====|__| User |-----------------------------| A User | | | |<--- Network --->| | | Physical Interface Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 6] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 Figure 1: ASON/GMPLS Architecture Network User Control Data User Plane Plane | | | | Path +----->|------------------------>| | | /| Resv |<-----|<----------------------/ | |\ | | ResvConf | \--->|------------------------>| | | | Data |<====================>|<=======>| Transmission| | | Figure 2: Signaling Flow For Path Establishment and Data Transmission There are some differences between ASON and GMPLS architecture models regarding the UNI interface. ASON uses carrier oriented domain architecture model. UNI is used between user and a network domain; ENNI is used between two network domains. The ASON control plane supports service establishment through the automatic provisioning of end-to-end connection across one or more domains. In contrast, GMPLS has peer model and overlay model. In the peer model, it assumes a community of users with mutual trust and shared goals. There are no inherent policy or security boundaries, and routing and signaling protocols flow within the network without filtering or other constraints imposed. In the overlay model [RFC4208], it assumes that the network nodes act as a closed system, and that user nodes are not aware of the topology of the network, though network and user nodes may have a routing protocol interaction for the exchange of reachability information to other user nodes. Regardless of the architecture differences in ASON and GMPLS, both models share the same service characteristics in which the service is requested at the time the connection needs. In other words, service request and service time are tightly coupled. This service model may raise concerns for carriers to offer all the bandwidth services in optical transport networks in this manner. Here are the major concerns: 1) It is hard for carriers to predict user demand and guarantee the dedicated bandwidth when user needs it. Some user may want to book the bandwidth ahead to ensure the bandwidth availability. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 7] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 2) For some Permanent Connection (PC) or a high bandwidth connection, carriers may want to let a customer book in advance and automatically provision the connection when service time arrives. This way gives carriers a chance to plan the network resource ahead of service time if necessary. 3) Having user directly request the bandwidth from network through the signaling channel that directly communicates with the optical control plane could potentially introduce a big security concerns for carrier. Since the control plane is the network brain, it can not tolerate any possibility of outsider attack. Thus, the special security function for the signaling channel at UNI is required. 4) A carrier may not want to expose its network to its customer. To support UNI, carrier has to define a separated node address, port ID for customer to use, and the advertisement of customer reachability in the control plane, which adds the complexity and cost for a carrier. 5) Some optical data plane takes time to have a path run clean even the connection path already established from optical control plane. Therefore, user may get a lot of corrupted payloads initially. 6) The service model presents a big challenge for service operation and back office system integration. Today this instant bandwidth service model has been rarely deployed in a real network although the protocols have been standardized in the standard body for a while. It is believed due to two major reasons: 1) most of bandwidth services offered by optical networks are relatively static and could be reserved ahead of service time; 2) the service model and its benefits are still under carrier investigation because of these concerns. The questions are raised: could ASON/GMPLS architecture support reservation based automatic bandwidth service? could ASON/GMPLS architectures support time based automatic bandwidth service as an alternate solution for bandwidth on demand service. Furthermore, how could we enhance the control plane to be of service intelligence? These questions motivate this draft to discuss the possibility of ASON/GMPLS architecture extension to support reservation and time based automatic bandwidth services. * The reservation based automatic bandwidth service is that the connection service could be booked in carrier reservation system ahead of service time. When the service time arrives, the network could automatically build up the connection path. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 8] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 * The time based automatic connection is that an existing connection or bandwidth can be managed as a function of time. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 9] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 3. ASON/GMPLS Architecture Extension for Reservation and Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service 3.1. Architecture The great advantage of ASON/GMPLS is to have network intelligence for network discovery, route selection, path establishment, connection management. The question is how to utilize the intelligence for a reservation based bandwidth request. Figure 3 illustrates a possible architecture model for a reservation based automatic bandwidth service. In this model, it is assumed that user equipment has been connected to network with a physical interface such as SONET or Ethernet; there is no signaling channel between user and network. The control plane enabled network is able to automatically select a route and set up the connection path. A reservation system is provided by a carrier. +------------+ +---------+ ------>|Reservation |<----->| OSS | Service Request | System | +---------+ +-----+------+ | | __ |-------------V---------------| __ | | | Control Plane | | | | | |-----------------------------| | | |__|=====| Data Plane |=====|__| User |-----------------------------| A User | | | |<---- Network ---->| | | Physical Interface Figure 3: ASON/GMPLS Architecture Extension The service Reservation System (RS) allows user to book the service request ahead of service time. User could specify the service start time and end time if available, source and destination, bandwidth, and other service parameters. The RS needs go through the service validation processes including customer account, connection points, service quality, etc. To accomplish these steps, the RS needs to communicate with some back office systems (OSS) such as account, inventory system. After completing the validation processes, the RS converts the request to a connection order in a database, and send a confirmation message back to the customer. For bandwidth reservation, a provider could use booking information Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 10] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 in the database to prepare network resource ahead. Since some services may use the bandwidth over the same network segment in different time period, they could use the same bandwidth resource at different time. In TDM network, the bandwidth refers to "timeslot". Thus, the resource planning is to estimate a bandwidth pool in network to ensure that all booked services can get the bandwidth at its service time. If a "special" service really requests to book and allocate network resource ahead service time, it should be allowed under some condition such as the ahead period prior to the service time and/or price. 3.2. Reservation Service Activation and Deactivation Procedures When the service time arrives, the RS generates a connection request to the network source node of the connection, the source node will select route(s) first and then establish the connection path toward destination node using GMPLS signaling protocol. The signaling flow for the connection establishment shows in Figure 4. The RS may provide the explicit route list depending on the implementation, then the network only needs to establish the connection path. Although the network already allocates bandwidth for the connection, user may not generate traffic yet; unequipped path(UNEQ-P)or alarm indication signal(AIS-P)could be generated by SONET/SDH or OTN data plane. Thus, the control plane needs to inform the nodes that the path is in waiting payload period and starts a waiting period timer; the nodes should not start the path monitor at this time. Administrative Status Information object in GMPLS signaling may be used in cooperation on this step. For an advanced situation, the network could enable an automatic data path verification process before getting into the waiting period. Network User Reservation Control Data User System Plane Plane | | | | | Service +----->| | | | booking | | | | | Confirmation |<-----| | | | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Request | |----------->| | | | | | | | Confirmation | |<-----------| | | | | | Data |<============================>|<=======>| Transmission| | | Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 11] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 Figure 4: Reservation based RSVP-TE Signaling Flow When user begins to generate the traffic, both ingress and egress nodes could detect the payload and inform the control plane. The control plane at the source node will stop the timer, inform the node to start monitor the path. The administrative status information object may be used to inform the connection status. If the waiting timer is expired, the control plane may take down the connection path and inform the RS about service cancellation. The waiting time can be selected by user or a default timer provided by carrier. To tear down the connection, there could be two scenarios. First, a customer does not specify the end time of its connection, it simply asks network to take down the connection when it stops sending traffic. Second, a customer specifies the ending time in the service scheduler system. In the first scenario, customer stops sending data stream when it finishes, the nodes at ingress and/or egress detect the payload missing, the ingress node informs the control plane. The control plane waits for certain period (configurable or defined in service profile), then the source node initiates the teardown message toward the destination node. It will send a service completion message to the reservation system. The system will go through the service completion process. It is necessary that the nodes at ingress and egress differentiate a link or equipment failure from payload missing and inform the control plane with different status changes. In the second scenario, the RS sends a disconnection request to the control plane when the service period expires. The control plane informs the source and destination nodes to inject UNEQ-P signaling toward user if the interface is SONET or OTN. Then, the source node sends a path teardown message toward the destination node and send a service completion message to the RS. The RS will go through the service completion process. The solution suggested here provides an alternate way to automatically establish a connection path in ASON/GMPLS network. Once the connection is established, the control plane can manage the connection based on the service request such as service protection requirement. 3.3. Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service The reservation based automatic bandwidth service solution allows carrier further implementing event driven service such as a time Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 12] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 based bandwidth service. A time based service means that the connection path could be automatically setup, taken down, or modified based on the pre-scheduled time. For example, a connection will be setup two hours every day for three months or 600Mbps during the day and 150Mbps at night. In this case, the reservation system allows customer to specify time based connection request. For this advanced application, the RS could convert the reservation into a connection request associated with a policy profile. When an initial connection time arrives, it will send a connection request with the policy profile to the control plane. The control plane will maintain the policy profile and execute the policy rules specified in the policy profile. Figure 5 shows some policy rules but not limited to. How the control plane supports the time based connection request will be discussed in the section 3.5. +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Rule Type | Time Duration | Action | |--------------+-------------------+---------------------| | TOD | 8AM-5PM | Maintain Connection | | Time of Day |-------------------+---------------------| | | Other | Terminate Connection| |--------------+-------------------+---------------------| | DOW | M - F | Maintain 600MBW | | Day of Week |-------------------+---------------------| | | Sa-Su | Maintain 200MBW | +--------------+-------------------+---------------------+ Figure 5: Policy Rules Followings are some potential service features that could be implemented through the reservation based bandwidth service but not limited to. 1) Bandwidth service is specified in time pattern, for example, time of day, day of month, holiday of year, etc. If the connection is taken down during the break time, it is possible that the new connection path differs from the old but the service quality remains the same. The carrier needs to plan the network resource ahead to ensure the bandwidth availability. 2) Bandwidth modification for an existing connection. Customer specifies bandwidth variance to the time for a connection. In this case, the control plane can modify the connection bandwidth without service disruption. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 13] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 3) One reservation for a group of connections among a set of client ports. The set of client ports could share a same profile. Time based traffic pattern can be specified among the ports. For example, there are 10 ports, the first four ports need 200 Mbps and last six ports need 100 Mbps in day time; two ports need 500Mbps, the rest needs 50 Mbps at night. 4) Service extension for an existing connection. Customer could extend the service time through the reservation system. 5) Combined above services. The combined service offers a lot of flexibility for the bandwidth service. Thus, it may serve as a bandwidth on demand service. 3.4. Protocol between Reservation System and Control Plane There are some protocols needed between the reservation system and the control plane. It is recommended to use existing signaling protocol, i.e. extend GMPLS signaling protocol to the RS. In this case, the RS acts as GMPLS signaling agent. The RS can send a connection request to the source node using GMPLS protocol. Since the RS and network belong to the same carrier administrative domain, RS can directly use network internal address and port information in the connection request. Thus, it is like a user interface in GMPLS peer model. For the time based service, there will be additional enhanced objects in GMPLS protocol to carry the time based service information. Another way to implement is to develop Management Information Base (MIB) modules between RS and control plane to carry the connection request information. This implementation requires control plane to convert MIB into signaling message for an end-to-end path establishment. 3.5. Time Based Connection Path Management A control plane is expected to manage a connection in an event driven policy. For example, when a failure happens [POLICY], it can select another route for user or allocate the reserved protection path in shared mesh configuration. To support time based connection management, the control plane needs to have a time trigger and event register function. Figure 6 shows a possible connection controller structure to manage a scheduled event. There are three components plus a time ticker. The connection manager(CM) is responsible for connection establishment and maintenance. The policy manager(PM) manages all the connection rules. These rules may be associated with an network event and/or time event. The Event Register(ER) can table all time related events that will be triggered when the time arrives. When a connection Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 14] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 request comes from RS, CM in the source node processes the request and establishes the initial connection by using GMPLS protocol. If there is a time based policy profile associated with the connection, CM sends the connection ID and policy profile to PM. PM processes the policy profile and registers the time based events into the ER. When an event is on time, EM notifies PM on the event. PM sends the action with connection ID to CM. Then CM executes the action on the connection. Such time based function empowers a control plane to actively manage the connection path. It is possible that a time based connection may be routed through difference paths during different connection time but the service quality remains the same. How to keep a time based connection in the same route needs future study. Connection Controller Connection +----------------------------------+ Request | | from RS | +------------+ +------------+ | ------------+>| Connection +----> Policy | | | | Manager <----+ Manager | | | +------------+ +--A----+----+ | | | | | | +-----------+ +-----+----V----+ | | |Time Ticker|->| Event Register| | | +-----------+ +---------------+ | + ---------------------------------+ Figure 6: Connection Controller Structure There is a debate whether the time based connection management should reside in the control plane or management plane, i.e. Network Management System (NMS). NMS is a centralized system. It responses to collect fault alarms and performance data from network, provide equipment configuration and service provisioning, and support all the operation activities. It is possible to implement time based connection management function in NMS. In this case, NMS keeps tracking all connections created by the control plane and maintain the time based policy profiles. When an event arrives, NMS finds out the associated connection ID and its source node, then sends the event to the control plane. The control plane executes the event. In the model, both control plane and NMS manage the connections. Who has the connection ownership is questionable. The model may create a lot of communications between the NMS and control plane for a large network or frequent connection changes, which could cause a scalability problem and infrastructure challenge. In contrast, using Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 15] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 control plane to manage time based connection provides the distributing management in the control plane and the control plane fully manages and maintains the connections, which presents some advantages. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 16] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 4. Multi-Layer and Multi-Domain Networks ASON architecture supports a multi-layer and multi-domain configuration. [MLN/MRN] The solution described here work for multi- layer networks as well. Figure 7 illustrates a multi-layer network in general. Customer equipment physically connect to an ASON network at client layer, for example, through Ethernet interface, the network ingress and egress have client layer interfaces; the network side interfaces have server layer interfaces. The customer could book a connection request from client layer without knowing the network topology and architecture at all. When the service time arrives, the scheduler system will send the connection request to the control plane, the control plane will select the path route over client layer adaptation and server layer to establish the connection path. If the server layer path is already existed, the control plane could also build a connection path over the existing tunnel in server layer depending on the service request or control plane policy. In the similar way, when tearing down a connection, if there are multiple connections in client layer such as multiple VLANs, client layer will only tear down the VLAN path in the client layer. When tearing down the last VLAN path in a tunnel, the control plane could take down the tunnel as well depending on the service request or control plane policy. The reservation based service model allows provider to manage the server layer connection separately from the client layer connection. Based on the customer needs, the reservation system could let server layer to establish a tunnel that connects to ingress and egress at client layer first. For example, set up a SONET connection and use GFP at ingress and egress to map to Ethernet port. Thus, when cusomter wants a P2P connection at Ethernet, the connection can be built directly over end-to-end client layer through the server layer tunnel. Multiple P2P connections may be built over a tunnel. As a result, client layer connections could be very dynamic while a server layer connection is relative static. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 17] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 +------------+ +------+ -------->| Reservation|<--->| OSS | Service Request | System | +------+ +------------+ | | User +--+ | +--+ User Data Stream ----> =====| | | | |====== Client Layer ..............|..|.......|.......|..|.................... | +-------V-------+ | Server Layer | | +---------------------+ Network Figure 7: Multi-Layer Network The solution could apply to multi-domain configuration as well. In this scenario, there could be one reservation system to support multi-domains or each domain has its own reservation system. If customer needs to build a connection across multi-domains, it can book through one system or several systems. A reservation system will use the same semantics to build connection path through the control plane. External Network to Network Interface (ENNI) will be used between domains. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 18] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 5. Architecture Advantages The architecture model for reservation and time based automatic bandwidth services adopt ASON/GMPLS architecture model and combine with Web application technology. It de-couples service request time and service time, which provides a great value for carriers and customers. It provides a practical architecture to a bandwidth on demand service in an optical transport network. It has following advantages compared to UNI based instant bandwidth service. 1.Reservation based automatic bandwidth service can provide better bandwidth guarantee for the customer. Carrier can observe reservations and plan the network resources. 2.It does not need a signaling channel between user and network, i.e. no UNI interface. This simplifies the service model. To support UNI, carrier has to work out separated node address and port ID for customer to use, and the advertisement of customer reachability in the network. 3.Since there is no signaling channel between user and network control plane, it eliminates the possibility that a control plane is attacked from UNI signaling channel. 4.This allows network to pre-verify the data plane path by using an embedded tool or automatically tune a data plane path to ensure the path running clean. 5.This service model is more close to the private line services that carrier offer today. It could co-exist with existing ASON/GMPLS architecture. 6.Advanced reservation system could be designed to offer very flexible and dynamic service for customers as mentioned above. 7.The architecture model allows carrier easier to implement the services in term of service operation and back office system support. Internet technology enables many WEB based reservation applications. Integrating ASON/GMPLS architecture with the reservation based system boosts optical control plane capability to support automatic bandwidth service and open potentials for other advanced services such as L1VPN and bandwidth trading. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 19] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 6. Other Architecture Solution The architecture solution discussed in this document is one way to implement the reservation and time based automatic bandwidth service. The separation between the reservation system and control plane provides a realistic way for the implementation from many perspectives. The reservation system can be interwork with other back office systems to provide customer account management, inventory verification, resource management, and security management. The control plane only responses for the connection management. Another solution is to directly implement reservation and time based automatic bandwidth service through UNI interface, i.e. enhance the GMPLS signaling protocol between user and network interface to allow carrying these time based service information and let control plane interwork with back office system to perform all the validation processes and manage the services. Authors think this architecture design is not a practical design for carrier and it will add more concerns about the service models over UNI beyond mentioned in this document. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 20] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 7. Security Considerations This implementation eliminates the security concern at UNI and requires security management in the scheduler system. Each user needs to have a private account and security procedure before it can summit its service request. The architecture presents little possibility to attack the network. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 21] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 8. IANA Considerations There is no IANA actions requested in this specification. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 22] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 9. Acknowledgements Authors would like to thank James Zhu and Dan Li from Huawei, Adrian Farrel from olddog, Tomonori TAKEDA and Kensuke SHINDOME from NTT, and D'Allessandro Alessandro from Telecom Italia for the review and great suggestions. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 23] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 10. References 10.1. Normative References [ITU-T G.8080] ITU-T, "Architecture for the Automatically Switched Optical Network(ASON).", January 2003. [RFC2119] Bradner, S., "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement Levels", RFC 2119, March 1997. [RFC3471] Berger (Editor)et al.,, L., "Generalized MPLS signaling Functional Description", RFC 3471, January 2003. [RFC3473] Berger, L., "Generalized MPLS Signaling - RSVP-TE Extensions", RFC 3473, January 2003. [RFC3945] Mannie, Ed.,, E., "Gemeralized Multi-Protocol Lable Switching (GMPLS) Achitecture", RFC 3945, October 2004. [RFC3946] Mannie, E. and D. Papadimitriou, "Generalized Multi- Protocol Label Switch (GMPLS) Extension for Synchronoous Optical Network (SONET) and Sychronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH) Control", RFC 3946, December 2005. [RFC4208] Swallow, G., Drake, J., Ishimatsu, H., and Y. Rekhter, "Generalized Multiprotocl Label Switching (GMPLS) User- Network Interface (UNI): Resource Rervation Protocol- Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) Support for hte pverlay model", RFC 4208, October 2005. 10.2. Informative References [MLN/MRN] Shiomoto, et al., K., "Requirement for GMPLS-based multi- region and multi-kayer networks", January 2003. [POLICY] Lee , Y. and Z. James , "Framework for the Polocy-Based Mechanism in GMPLS Network", May 2006. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 24] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 Authors' Addresses Lucy Yong Huawei USA 1700 Alma Dr. Suite 100 Plano, TX 75075 Phone: +1 469-229-5387 Email: lucyyong@huawei.com Young Lee Huawei USA 1700 Alma Dr. Suite 100 Plano, TX 75075 Phone: +1 469-229-2240 Email: ylee@huawei.com Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 25] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 Full Copyright Statement Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2006). 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Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 26] --Boundary_(ID_8vBocTyTmW5TkwflmhmKow)-- From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Sun Oct 22 11:06:26 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GbeuA-0002YQ-Kg for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:06:26 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gbeu5-00073M-5I for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:06:26 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Gbej7-0009sp-AG for ccamp-data@psg.com; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:55:01 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 Received: from [80.68.34.48] (helo=mail1.noc.data.net.uk) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Gbej3-0009sN-53 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:55:00 +0000 Received: from 57-99.dsl.data.net.uk ([80.68.57.99] helo=cortex.aria-networks.com) by mail1.noc.data.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1GbejG-0005Zk-00 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:55:10 +0100 Received: from your029b8cecfe ([217.158.132.108] RDNS failed) by cortex.aria-networks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:54:53 +0100 Message-ID: <0eb101c6f5ea$068527e0$540110ac@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Fw: [Isis-wg] CCAMP Working group last call ondraft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:54:01 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2006 14:54:54.0461 (UTC) FILETIME=[08C04AD0:01C6F5EA] Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 825e642946eda55cd9bc654a36dab8c2 Comments received on the IS-IS mailing list from Les Ginsberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" To: "Adrian Farrel" ; ; ; Cc: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" ; Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:36 AM Subject: RE: [Isis-wg] CCAMP Working group last call ondraft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt In regards to the IS-IS definitions, there is (again - sorry JP...) confusion in the use of the terms TLV and subTLV. For example, in Section 2 it states: A new TLV is defined for ISIS and OSPF: the TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV, to be carried within: - The ISIS Capability TLV ([ISIS-CAP]) for ISIS... If the information is carried within another TLV, then it is clearly subTLV information - the difference between the two is more than terminology since it impacts both the encoding and the scope of the identifiers which are assigned. Section 4.2 then goes on to discuss: "The format of the IS-IS TE Node Capability TLV" - which is, as pointed out above, actually a subTLV. And then goes on to define "subsubTLVs" (which are incorrectly called subTLVs). As "subsubTLVs" are new to IS-IS encoding some discussion of this added level of hierarchy is required. However, I think it might also be fair to entertain the possibility that the "TE Node Capability subTLV" be deleted and the "subsubTLVs" defined in the subsections of 4.2 be defined more directly as subTLVs of the IS-IS CAPs TLV. This is possible because as currently defined, the "TE Node Capability subTLV" has no information at the subTLV level - it is simply a container for the subsubTLV information. This would allow for a more efficient encoding without any loss of functionality. Whatever the resolution, all the text relating to this must be reworded to be consistent and accurate. I would also prefer that the wording of the following sentence in Section 5.2: "An empty TE Node Capability Descriptor MUST be discarded." be changed to "An empty TE Node Capability Descriptor MUST be ignored." The term "discard" suggests that a router which leaks a CAP TLV containing TE node capability information might be required to modify the contents of that TLV - which is something to be avoided. 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This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Operating Virtual Concatenation (VCAT) and the Link Capacity Adjustment Scheme (LCAS) with Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Author(s) : G. Bernstein, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-01.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2006-10-22 This document describes requirements for, and use of, the Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) control plane in conjunction with the Virtual Concatenation (VCAT) layer 1 inverse multiplexing mechanism and its companion Link Capacity Adjustment Scheme (LCAS) which can be used for hitless dynamic resizing of the inverse multiplex group. These techniques apply to the Optical Transport Network (OTN), Synchronous Optical Network (SONET), Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH), and Plesiochronous Digital Hierarchy (PDH) signals. 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Ross Callon , Bill Fenner , Scott Bradner , Deborah Brungard , CCAMP Mailing List , Adrian Farrel , Adrian Farrel From: Adrian Farrel (IETF CCAMP WG) Subject: New Liaison Statement, "Notification of work in the IETF CCAMP working group" Reply-To: Adrian Farrel Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:38:53 -0400 Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c3a18ef96977fc9bcc21a621cbf1174b Title: Notification of work in the IETF CCAMP working group Submission Date: 2006-10-23 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/liaison_detail.cgi?detail_id=273 Please reply by 2006-11-17 From: Adrian Farrel(IETF CCAMP WG) To: ITU-T SG15(Greg Jones ) Cc: Stephen Trowbridge Kam Lam Ross Callon Bill Fenner Scott Bradner Deborah Brungard CCAMP Mailing List Reponse Contact: Adrian Farrel Technical Contact: Adrian Farrel Purpose: For action Body: The CCAMP Working Group of the IETF is pleased to inform you of its progress with work that we believe may be of direct interest to your participants. A new RFC has been published. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4631.txt provides some small updates and clarifications to the SNMP MIB module for the Link Management Protocol (LMP). It obsoletes RFC 4327, the previous version of this MIB module. Section 14 of the new RFC shows a list of the changes. The CCAMP working group continues to make good progress in many areas. Full details of the work of CCAMP can be found at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ccamp-charter.html from where all of the latest revisions of the various RFCs and Internet-Drafts can be freely downloaded without charge. Four Internet-Drafts that may be of particular interest to your members are listed below. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-01.txt is a relatively new work item that examines the requirements and procedures for using GMPLS protocols to support Virtual Concatenation Groups across TDM networks. We believe this may be of particular interest to you in support of Ethernet services over TDM. The Abstract of this draft reads as follows: This document describes requirements for, and use of, the Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) control plane in conjunction with the Virtual Concatenation (VCAT) layer 1 inverse multiplexing mechanism and its companion Link Capacity Adjustment Scheme (LCAS) which can be used for hitless dynamic resizing of the inverse multiplex group. These techniques apply to the Optical Transport Network (OTN), Synchronous Optical Network (SONET), Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH), and Plesiochronous Digital Hierarchy (PDH) signals. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-02.txt describes extensions to the OSPF routing protocol to satisfy the ASON routing requirements as set out in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4258.txt in the light of the evaluation provided in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-eval-03.txt (both of which were written with considerable help from some of your individual members). The Abstract of this draft reads as follows: The Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) suite of protocols has been defined to control different switching technologies as well as different applications. These include support for requesting TDM connections including SONET/SDH and Optical Transport Networks (OTNs). This document provides the extensions of the OSPFv2 Link State Routing Protocol to meet the routing requirements for an Automatically Switched Optical Network (ASON) as defined by ITU-T. In view of the fact that this work addresses the ASON routing requirements, we would like to solicit your review and feedback on this draft. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-00.txt presents a GMPLS Sender_TSpec (and hence a Flowspec) for Ethernet Traffic Parameters as described in MEF.10. The Abstract of this draft reads as follows: This document described the Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) - specific Ethernet Traffic Parameters as described in MEF.10 when using Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Resource ReSerVation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) signaling. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-rsvp-te-call-01.txt describes extensions to RSVP-TE for the establishment and management of Calls in GMPLS networks, and for the association of LSPs (connections) with those Calls. The Abstract if this draft reads as follows: In certain networking topologies, it may be advantageous to maintain associations between endpoints and key transit points to support an instance of a service. Such associations are known as Calls. A Call does not provide the actual connectivity for transmitting user traffic, but only builds a relationship by which subsequent Connections may be made. In Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) such Connections are known as Label Switched Paths (LSPs). This document specifies how GMPLS RSVP-TE signaling may be used and extended to support Calls. These mechanisms provide full and logical Call/Connection separation. The mechanisms proposed in this document are applicable to any environment (including multi-area), and for any type of interface: packet, layer-2, time-division multiplexed, lambda or fiber switching. The CCAMP Working Group welcomes comments on its work at any time. These can be sent by anyone to the CCAMP mailing list. Details of how to subscribe to the list together with information on all of the work currently being pursued by the working group can be found at the charter page: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ccamp-charter.html Regards, Adrian Farrel and Deborah Brungard CCAMP Working Group Co-Chairs Attachment(s): No document has been attached From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Mon Oct 23 16:03:56 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gc61c-00054w-Sg for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:03:56 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gc619-0003z8-A5 for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:03:56 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Gc5oC-000H3r-Mz for ccamp-data@psg.com; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:50:04 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.6 Received: from [156.154.16.158] (helo=ns0.neustar.com) by psg.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Gc5oB-000H35-LQ for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:50:04 +0000 Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by ns0.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3274E328A7; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:50:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Gc5oA-0008O1-0r; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:50:02 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-mln-reqs-02.txt Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:50:02 -0400 Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 14582b0692e7f70ce7111d04db3781c8 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for GMPLS-based multi-region and multi-layer networks (MRN/MLN) Author(s) : K. Shiomoto, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-mln-reqs-02.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2006-10-23 Most of the initial efforts on Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) have been related to environments hosting devices with a single switching capability. The complexity raised by the control of such data planes is similar to that seen in classical IP/MPLS networks. By extending MPLS to support multiple switching technologies, GMPLS provides a comprehensive framework for the control of a multi- layered network of either a single switching technology or multiple switching technologies. In GMPLS, a switching technology domain defines a region, and a network of multiple switching types is referenced in this document as a multi-region network (MRN). 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This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Evaluation of existing GMPLS Protocols against Multi Layer and Multi Region Networks (MLN/MRN) Author(s) : J. Le Roux, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-mln-eval-02.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2006-10-23 This document provides an evaluation of Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) protocols and mechanisms against the requirements for Multi-Layer Networks (MLN) and Multi-Region Networks (MRN). In addition, this document identifies areas where additional protocol extensions or procedures are needed to satisfy these requirements, and provides guidelines for potential extensions. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-mln-eval-02.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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X-Scan-Signature: 5a9a1bd6c2d06a21d748b7d0070ddcb8 Hi, I have a few questions on LMP. Would like to hear back some opinions on these. First question - Section 9 on "Addressing" mentions that a Config message over a non-point-to-point link (which could mean an ethernet link), must be sent with the destination IP set to the unicast IP address of the neighboring node. Considering a scenario where there are 2 nodes that has mutliple control-channels 1) an out-of-fiber one over a non-point-to-point link 2) an in-fiber one over a point-to-point link Since there is no guarantee that the Config message with the unicast destination IP address meant for control-channel 1) will not get routed out on the point-to-point link what measures should the neighboring node take to properly map the Config message to the correct instance of the control-channel ? Next question - Does RFC4204 consider network reconfiguration scenarios ? For example, if graceful restart is enabled control-channel re-establishment is done using the unicast IP address of the neighboring node in the Config message that was recovered from, say, the non-volatile storage database. At what point in time will the Config message destination IP address switch to the multicast IP address (assuming the control-channel is over a point-to-point link) ? Last question - Graceful restart requires the following (extracted from Section 8): If, however, the node was not capable of retaining the LMP link information across a restart, the node MUST accept the data link parameters of the received LinkSummary message and respond with a LinkSummaryAck message. Should a node not capable of retaining any information across a restart respond with a LinkSummaryAck in case link verification is enabled ? The issue is the information that is being accepted may not be correct. 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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The thwar= ted terrorist airline plot in Britain is sparking a bitter new round of fin= ger-pointing in Connecticut's bruising Senate race. WASHINGTON (AP) -- The = thwarted terrorist airline plot in Britain is sparking a bitter new round o= f finger-pointing in Connecticut's bruising Senate race. Money Magazine: Be= st jobs in America LONDON, ENGLAND: 16 held in British terror swoops KANDAH= AR l storms or monster hurricanes like Katrina and Andrew. More than 200 ho= mes evacuated in Richmond, Virginia NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Wall Street bonus= es will rise 15 percent this year, with larger increases for investment ban= kers and equities traders as merger activity surges and stocks rise, accord= ing to a study released Monday.
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This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Use of Addresses in Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Networks Author(s) : K. Shiomoto, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-addressing-05.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2006-10-25 This document explains and clarifies the use of addresses in Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) networks. The aim of this document is to facilitate and ensure better interworking of GMPLS-capable Label Switching Routers (LSRs) based on experience gained in deployments and interoperability testing and proper interpretation of published RFCs. The document specifies a proper approach for the interpretation and choice of address and identifier fields within GMPLS protocols and references specific control plane usage models. It also examines some common GMPLS Resource Reservation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) signaling message processing issues and recommends solutions. 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This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Graceful Shutdown in GMPLS Traffic Engineering Networks Author(s) : Z. Ali, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-graceful-shutdown-01.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2006-10-25 GMPLS-TE Graceful shutdown is a method for explicitly notifying the nodes in a Traffic Engineering (TE) enabled network that the TE capability on a link or on an entire Label Switching Router (LSR) is going to be disabled. GMPLS-TE graceful shutdown mechanisms are tailored towards addressing the planned outage in the network. This document provides requirements and protocol mechanisms so as to reduce/eliminate traffic disruption in the event of a planned shutdown of a network resource. These operations are equally applicable for both MPLS and its GMPLS extensions. 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05:13:11 -0400 Message-ID: <001301c6f90d$119757e0$0623702c@NEW> From: Melissa Stanford To: ccamp-archive@ietf.org Subject: Not twitch by marion Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:43:15 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C6F90D.119757E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 3.5 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 7e267523e0685e5aa2dbbdde4b659686 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C6F90D.119757E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0011_01C6F90D.119757E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01C6F90D.119757E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you were born to be shot, you'll never be hung. 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3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 4.9 (++++) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6F92D.1FBBE550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stasis or speed. Either I had been speeded up or the world had slowed Reasonable VlAGHRA http://www.netbrowski.info =20 last ripple died away the young man turned crud left without looking ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6F92D.1FBBE550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stasis or speed. Either I had been = speeded up or the world had slowed

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We were copied on a liaison from the ITU-T to the OIF on call and connection deletion. We have been sent further questions by the OIF on the way to signal Ethernet labels on point-to-point access Ethernet connections at the OIF UNI. You can see these communications through the CCAMP alternative web site http://www.olddog.co.uk/ccamp.htm Thanks, Adrian From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Fri Oct 27 08:39:24 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdQzc-0003T5-7L for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:39:24 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdQzX-0005Bt-Sh for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:39:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GdQso-000Gzm-6Q for ccamp-data@psg.com; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:32:22 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 Received: from [129.60.39.102] (helo=tama5.ecl.ntt.co.jp) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GdQsk-000GzI-OX for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:32:21 +0000 Received: from vcs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (vcs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.39.110]) by tama5.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9RCWEFn022242 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:14 +0900 (JST) Received: from mfs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (mfs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.39.112]) by vcs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9RCW7gY004568 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:07 +0900 (JST) Received: from nttmail3.ecl.ntt.co.jp ([129.60.39.100]) by mfs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9RCW3BA004644 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.53.14]) by nttmail3.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9RCW2QR010404 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv04.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp by dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/dmailsv-1.6) with ESMTP id k9RCW1eY027627 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost by mailsv04.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/Lab-1.6) with ESMTP id k9RCW0Jj011844 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:01 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.20.2.20061027212033.06039550@mailsv4.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp> X-Sender: wi002@mailsv4.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6J-Jr3 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:08 +0900 To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Wataru Imajuku Subject: draft-imajuku-ccamp-rtg-switching-constraint-01.txt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Dear CCAMPers We posted a new ID, draft-imajuku-ccamp-rtg-switching-constraint-01.txt, which assess new routing problem for Reconfigurable Optical Add/Drop Multiplexer. We are very happy if we could have comments from CCAMPers. The issue described in the document is confirmed in some tests. Also, we have to note that this document has some editorial problem due to unintentional introduction of Japanese font. Sorry for inconvenience. Sincearly Wataru ------------------------------------- Wataru Imajuku@NTT Network Innovation Labs TEL: +81-46-859-4315 FAX: +81-468-59-5541 From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Fri Oct 27 08:56:39 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdRGJ-0005Hd-4t for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:56:39 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdRGG-0007mr-Rj for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:56:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GdR6Y-000Il9-Hz for ccamp-data@psg.com; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:46:34 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MIME_BASE64_BLANKS,MIME_BASE64_NO_NAME,MIME_BASE64_TEXT autolearn=no version=3.1.6 Received: from [61.144.161.55] (helo=szxga03-in.huawei.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GdR6T-000IkI-NW for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:46:33 +0000 Received: from huawei.com (szxga03-in [172.24.2.9]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J7S00EJ3PCV74@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:58:07 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.1.18]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J7S00DEIPCVYV@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:58:07 +0800 (CST) Received: from l37133 ([10.70.76.208]) by szxml03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0J7S00LP7P44YJ@szxml03-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:52:53 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:46:24 +0800 From: Dan Li Subject: New draft: draft-gao-ccamp-gmpls-msspring-01.txt To: ccamp Message-id: <001301c6f9c5$e9852b10$d04c460a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 RGVhciBDQ0FNUGVycywNCg0KV2WSdmUgcG9zdGVkIG9uZSBuZXcgZHJhZnQ6IFByb2JsZW0gYW5k IEFwcGxpY2FiaWxpdHkgU3RhdGVtZW50cyBmb3IgdGhlIHVzZSBvZiBHZW5lcmFsaXplZCBNdWx0 aS1Qcm90b2NvbCBMYWJlbCBTd2l0Y2hpbmcgKEdNUExTKSB0byBTdXBwb3J0IE11bHRpcGxleCBT ZWN0aW9uIFNoYXJlZCBQcm90ZWN0aW9uIFJpbmcgKE1TLVNQUmluZykNCg0KWW91ciBjb21tZW50 cyBhcmUgdmVyeSB3ZWxjb21lLiANCg0KVGhhbmtzLA0KDQpEYW4gDQoNCkFic3RyYWN0cw0KDQpJ biBvcmRlciB0byBwcm92aWRlIGhpZ2ggYXZhaWxhYmlsaXR5IGZvciB0cmFuc3BvcnQgbmV0d29y a3MsIGxpbmsgIHByb3RlY3Rpb24gdGVjaG5vbG9naWVzIGFyZSBhZG9wdGVkIGluIHRoZSBkYXRh IHBsYW5lLiBJbiBwcmVzZW50ICBTeW5jaHJvbm91cyBEaWdpdGFsIEhpZXJhcmNoeSAoU0RIKSBh bmQgU3luY2hyb25vdXMgT3B0aWNhbCBOZXR3b3JrIChTT05FVCkgb3B0aWNhbCB0cmFuc3BvcnQg bmV0d29ya3MsIG9uZSBvZiB0aGVzZSBwcm90ZWN0aW9uIHRlY2hub2xvZ2llcywgc2hhcmVkIHJp bmcgcHJvdGVjdGlvbiB0ZWNobm9sb2dpZXMsIHN1Y2ggYXMgdGhlIDIvNC1GaWJlciBCaS1kaXJl Y3Rpb25hbCBNdWx0aXBsZXggU2VjdGlvbiBTaGFyZWQgUHJvdGVjdGlvbiBSaW5nKE1TLVNQUmlu ZyksIGFyZSB3aWRlbHkgdXNlZC4gVGhlIHNhbWUgdGVjaG5vbG9naWVzIGNhbiBhbHNvIGJlIGFw cGxpZWQgaW4gT3B0aWNhbCBUcmFuc3BvcnQgTmV0d29ya3MgKE9UTnMpLiBUaGlzIGRvY3VtZW50 IGRlc2NyaWJlcyBhIHNldCBvZiBpc3N1ZXMgdG8gYmUgYWRkcmVzc2VkIHdoZW4gYXBwbHlpbmcg R01QTFMpIHRvIHN1cHBvcnQgTVMtU1BSaW5ncywgYW5kIHNldHMgb3V0IGhvdyBHTVBMUyBjYW4g YmUgYXBwbGllZC4NCiANCkJlY2F1c2Ugd2UgaGF2ZSBtaXNzZWQgdGhlIGZpbmFsIElEIHN1Ym1p c3Npb24gY3V0LW9mZiBkYXRlLCB0aGlzIGRyYWZ0IGNhbiBiZSBmb3VuZCB1bmRlciB0aGUgbWlz c2luZyBkcmFmdHMgbGluayBhdDoNCg0KaHR0cDovL3d3dy5vbGRkb2cuY28udWsvY2NhbXAuaHRt DQo= From hlijktrs@peoplefocus.com Fri Oct 27 14:51:50 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdWo2-0003v9-LZ for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:51:50 -0400 Received: from czc99.internetdsl.tpnet.pl ([83.19.188.99]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdWnw-00008q-SV for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:51:50 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01c6f9f8$f69fc7f0$63bc1353@recaditeq> From: "Sim." 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This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Procedures for Dynamically Signaled Hierarchical Label Switched Paths Author(s) : K. Shiomoto Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-hierarchy-bis-01.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2006-10-27 This document discusses topics related to hierarchical and stitched Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs). It describes extensions to allow an egress to identify that a bi-directional LSP will be used as a dynamically signaled Forwarding Adjacency LSP (FA-LSP) or Routing Adjacency (RA). In addition, the document also discusses the issue of how to indicate that an LSP should be advertised as a traffic engineering (TE) link into a different instance of the IGP and how to identify the instance that should be used. 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Title : Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Protocol Extensions for Multi-Layer and Multi-Region Networks (MLN/MRN) Author(s) : D. Papadimitriou, et al. Filename : draft-papadimitriou-ccamp-gmpls-mrn-extensions-03.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2006-10-26 There are requirements for the support of networks ccomprising LSRs with different data plane switching layers controlled by a single Generalized Multi Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) control plane instance, referred to as GMPLS Multi-Layer Networks/Multi-Region Networks (MLN/MRN). This document defines extensions to GMPLS routing and signaling protocols so as to support the operation of GMPLS Multi-Layer/Multi-Region Networks. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-papadimitriou-ccamp-gmpls-mrn-extensions-03.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. ftp://anonymous@ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-papadimitriou-ccamp-gmpls-mrn-extensions-03.txt _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Fri Oct 27 20:46:47 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdcLX-0003Tl-LV for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:46:47 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdcLW-0001Iy-Ao for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:46:47 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GdcE1-000Ned-Ln for ccamp-data@psg.com; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:39:01 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 Received: from [129.60.39.102] (helo=tama5.ecl.ntt.co.jp) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GdcE0-000NeF-1j for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:39:01 +0000 Received: from vcs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (vcs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.39.110]) by tama5.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9S0cu0M004855 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:38:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from mfs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (mfs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.39.112]) by vcs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9S0cnVP028490 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:38:50 +0900 (JST) Received: from nttmail3.ecl.ntt.co.jp ([129.60.39.100]) by mfs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9S0cnfM017135 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:38:49 +0900 (JST) Received: from dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.53.14]) by nttmail3.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k9S0cnNW003097 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:38:49 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv04.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp by dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/dmailsv-1.6) with ESMTP id k9S0cmHM026000 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:38:48 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost by mailsv04.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/Lab-1.6) with ESMTP id k9S0clZr005835 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:38:48 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.20.2.20061028093438.05e91fe0@mailsv4.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp> X-Sender: wi002@mailsv4.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6J-Jr3 Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:38:56 +0900 To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Wataru Imajuku Subject: Re: draft-imajuku-ccamp-rtg-switching-constraint-01.txt In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.20.2.20061027212033.06039550@mailsv4.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp > References: <6.0.0.20.2.20061027212033.06039550@mailsv4.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb Hi, All I have some queries regarding to URL. I'm sorry, please confirm http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-imajuku-ccamp-rtg-switching-constraint-01.txt Thanks Wataru At 21:32 06/10/27, you wrote: >Dear CCAMPers > > We posted a new ID, draft-imajuku-ccamp-rtg-switching-constraint-01.txt, which assess new routing problem for Reconfigurable Optical Add/Drop Multiplexer. > We are very happy if we could have comments from CCAMPers. > The issue described in the document is confirmed in some tests. > > Also, we have to note that this document has some editorial problem due to unintentional introduction of Japanese font. > Sorry for inconvenience. > >Sincearly >Wataru > >------------------------------------- >Wataru Imajuku@NTT Network Innovation Labs >TEL: +81-46-859-4315 >FAX: +81-468-59-5541 > > > > ------------------------------------- Wataru Imajuku@NTT Network Innovation Labs TEL: +81-46-859-4315 FAX: +81-468-59-5541 From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Sat Oct 28 07:54:06 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdmlK-0003g1-66 for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:54:06 -0400 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdmlH-0008Pw-Mz for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:54:06 -0400 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Gdmau-0000rF-Tt for ccamp-data@psg.com; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:43:20 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,UPPERCASE_25_50 autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 Received: from [80.68.34.48] (helo=mail1.noc.data.net.uk) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Gdmat-0000r0-20 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:43:20 +0000 Received: from 57-99.dsl.data.net.uk ([80.68.57.99] helo=cortex.aria-networks.com) by mail1.noc.data.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1Gdmb3-0001lD-00 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:43:29 +0100 Received: from your029b8cecfe ([217.158.132.227] RDNS failed) by cortex.aria-networks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:43:15 +0100 Message-ID: <03b501c6fa86$3dc414a0$cf849ed9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Fwd: Update to Internet-Draft and RFC Boilerplate Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:42:53 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2006 11:43:15.0648 (UTC) FILETIME=[41672C00:01C6FA86] Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93e7fb8fef2e780414389440f367c879 Hi, Some small changes to the IPR boilerplate. You have some time before you MUST use the new boilerplate, but I suggest you start to cut over now. Adrian > From: IETF Chair > Date: October 26, 2006 9:19:59 PM EDT > To: IETF Announcement list > Subject: Update to Internet-Draft and RFC Boilerplate > > A small update to BCP 78 was recently approved by the IESG as > RFC 4748, to update the boilerplate (i.e., standard legal text) in > RFCs and Internet-Drafts to recognize the IETF Trust as a rights > holder, instead of ISOC. > > The actual boilerplate changes are given below this message. > > Starting as soon as reasonably possible, all authors of Internet- > Drafts are requested to use the new boilerplate. The RFC > Editor will in any case be inserting it in all RFCs issued from > 2006-11-01. 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X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2006 13:40:58.0730 (UTC) FILETIME=[DDBDB4A0:01C6FB5F] Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 52e1467c2184c31006318542db5614d5 Hi, After a very quiet spell, suddenly everyone wanted to be on the agenda. We have done our best to fit in as much as possible. You can see the results at http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/06nov/agenda/ccamp.htm We will endeavour to cover all other issues and drafts with a quick comment from the chair, so if you have something you need us to say, please let us know. Presenters, please note: - You should assume the audience has read your I-D. - Material directly about your I-D should be simply a reminder - You are leading a discussion, not presenting your I-D. - Try to leave time in your slot for questions and discussion. - If you over run you are taking away time from other people. Remember, we meet like this to have discussions not to have presentations and tutorials. Please send us your slides by the end of Saturday 4th so that we can post them and they can be available on line for everyone to see. This is a courtesy to everyone who follows the meeting remotely, and to those for whom English is not the native language. If you wonder what sort of format to use for your slides, have a look at http://www.olddog.co.uk/ccamp-template.ppt Thanks, Adrian and Deborah From owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Sun Oct 29 10:04:09 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GeCCm-0001wS-Nb for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:04:08 -0500 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GeBzu-0001Ui-Eg for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:50:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GeBvS-000Fh8-JI for ccamp-data@psg.com; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:46:14 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on psg.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.6 Received: from [80.68.34.49] (helo=mail2.noc.data.net.uk) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1GeBvR-000Fgu-BY for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:46:13 +0000 Received: from 57-99.dsl.data.net.uk ([80.68.57.99] helo=cortex.aria-networks.com) by mail2.noc.data.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1GeBvN-0003VZ-00 for ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:46:09 +0000 Received: from your029b8cecfe ([217.158.132.20] RDNS failed) by cortex.aria-networks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:46:11 +0000 Message-ID: <04e801c6fb68$f5f013c0$cf849ed9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: References: <04d701c6f184$314ee930$540110ac@your029b8cecfe> Subject: Re: Working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:06:22 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2006 14:46:11.0919 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA2EF5F0:01C6FB68] Sender: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 82c9bddb247d9ba4471160a9a865a5f3 Hi, A few small comments: Section 10.2 RFC 4461 should be normative. --- In general, it is nice to use the RFC number when you are referencing an RFC. --- Section 4.1 Any unrecognized sub-TLV MUST be silently ignored. I think it would be beneficial to explain what "silently ignored" means. Actually, I think you want to require that unrecognized sub-TLVs must be flooded. --- Section 4.2 As 4.1 --- Section 5.1 The TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV is OPTIONAL and MUST appear at most once in an OSPF Router Information LSA. More natural to say "...and MUST NOT appear more than once..." --- Section 5.1 If a TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV appears more than once in an OSPF Router Information LSA, only the first occurrence MUST be processed, other occurrences MUST be discarded. More natural to say "...LSA, the first occurence MUST be processed and other..." However, are you sure that you want to do this discard? You are saying that the LSA that is flooded will not be the same as the one received. This seems wrong to me, and it is certianly not future-proof. --- Section 5.1 An empty TE Node Capability Descriptor MUST be discarded. Ditto --- Section 5.1 Note that a change in any of these capabilities MAY trigger CSPF computation, but MUST not trigger normal SPF computation. s/MUST not/MUST NOT/ --- Section 5.2 As 5.1 --- If you re-submit to address WG last call comments, please pick up the new boilerplate. Thanks, Adrian From iexclusive@horangoldman.com Sun Oct 29 11:33:40 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GeDbQ-0008C1-2z for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:33:40 -0500 Received: from chello087207075012.chello.pl ([87.207.75.12] helo=alan1.chello.pl) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GeDbD-0002eI-4J for ccamp-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:33:36 -0500 Message-ID: <001701c6fb79$22920f90$08002284@alan1> From: Tamera Ragland To: ccamp-archive@ietf.org Subject: The boundary a appliance Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:41:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6FB79.22920F90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 65bc4909d78e8b10349def623cf7a1d1 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6FB79.22920F90 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0015_01C6FB79.22920F90" ------=_NextPart_001_0015_01C6FB79.22920F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable to computers - to the bright colors, movement and sound emote something tha= t is not actually a sensory input. 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Although some electronic galleries will pr= obably develop their and applications which enable artists to create a vari= ety of forever linked in popular culture. So where does that leave the
virtually shop inside a digitally reproduc= ed environment of a Now that this has been said, with all of it's excitemen= t and
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RFC 4652 Title: Evaluation of Existing Routing Protocols against Automatic Switched Optical Network (ASON) Routing Requirements Author: D. Papadimitriou, Ed., L.Ong, J. Sadler, S. Shew, D. Ward Status: Informational Date: October 2006 Mailbox: dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel.be, lyong@ciena.com, jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com, sdshew@nortel.com, dward@cisco.com Pages: 22 Characters: 47179 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-eval-03.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4652.txt The Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) suite of protocols has been defined to control different switching technologies as well as different applications. These include support for requesting TDM connections including Synchronous Optical Network/Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SONET/SDH) and Optical Transport Networks (OTNs). 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RFC 4652 Title: Evaluation of Existing Routing Protocols against Automatic Switched Optical Network (ASON) Routing Requirements Author: D. Papadimitriou, Ed., L.Ong, J. Sadler, S. Shew, D. Ward Status: Informational Date: October 2006 Mailbox: dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel.be, lyong@ciena.com, jonathan.sadler@tellabs.com, sdshew@nortel.com, dward@cisco.com Pages: 22 Characters: 47179 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-eval-03.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4652.txt The Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) suite of protocols has been defined to control different switching technologies as well as different applications. These include support for requesting TDM connections including Synchronous Optical Network/Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SONET/SDH) and Optical Transport Networks (OTNs). 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Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:49:04 +0000 Message-ID: <070901c6fce2$422f4380$cf849ed9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Working group last call complete on draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:46:25 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Comments from Les Ginsberg and from me. All minor and easy to fix. Thanks, Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:34 AM Subject: Working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt > This starts a two week working group last on > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt > > Please send your comments to the CCAMP mailing list by 12 midnight UK time > on Monday 30th October > > Thanks, > Adrian and Deborah > > > > > Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:47:25 +0000 Message-ID: <04e801c6fb68$f5f013c0$cf849ed9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Re: Working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:06:22 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, A few small comments: Section 10.2 RFC 4461 should be normative. --- In general, it is nice to use the RFC number when you are referencing an RFC. --- Section 4.1 Any unrecognized sub-TLV MUST be silently ignored. I think it would be beneficial to explain what "silently ignored" means. Actually, I think you want to require that unrecognized sub-TLVs must be flooded. --- Section 4.2 As 4.1 --- Section 5.1 The TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV is OPTIONAL and MUST appear at most once in an OSPF Router Information LSA. More natural to say "...and MUST NOT appear more than once..." --- Section 5.1 If a TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV appears more than once in an OSPF Router Information LSA, only the first occurrence MUST be processed, other occurrences MUST be discarded. More natural to say "...LSA, the first occurence MUST be processed and other..." However, are you sure that you want to do this discard? You are saying that the LSA that is flooded will not be the same as the one received. This seems wrong to me, and it is certianly not future-proof. --- Section 5.1 An empty TE Node Capability Descriptor MUST be discarded. Ditto --- Section 5.1 Note that a change in any of these capabilities MAY trigger CSPF computation, but MUST not trigger normal SPF computation. s/MUST not/MUST NOT/ --- Section 5.2 As 5.1 --- If you re-submit to address WG last call comments, please pick up the new boilerplate. Thanks, Adrian Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:44:04 +0000 Message-ID: <04e001c6fb5f$d9306450$cf849ed9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Draft CCAMP Agenda Posted Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:39:17 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, After a very quiet spell, suddenly everyone wanted to be on the agenda. We have done our best to fit in as much as possible. You can see the results at http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/06nov/agenda/ccamp.htm We will endeavour to cover all other issues and drafts with a quick comment from the chair, so if you have something you need us to say, please let us know. Presenters, please note: - You should assume the audience has read your I-D. - Material directly about your I-D should be simply a reminder - You are leading a discussion, not presenting your I-D. - Try to leave time in your slot for questions and discussion. - If you over run you are taking away time from other people. Remember, we meet like this to have discussions not to have presentations and tutorials. Please send us your slides by the end of Saturday 4th so that we can post them and they can be available on line for everyone to see. This is a courtesy to everyone who follows the meeting remotely, and to those for whom English is not the native language. If you wonder what sort of format to use for your slides, have a look at http://www.olddog.co.uk/ccamp-template.ppt Thanks, Adrian and Deborah Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:45:23 +0000 Message-ID: <03b501c6fa86$3dc414a0$cf849ed9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Fwd: Update to Internet-Draft and RFC Boilerplate Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:42:53 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Some small changes to the IPR boilerplate. You have some time before you MUST use the new boilerplate, but I suggest you start to cut over now. Adrian > From: IETF Chair > Date: October 26, 2006 9:19:59 PM EDT > To: IETF Announcement list > Subject: Update to Internet-Draft and RFC Boilerplate > > A small update to BCP 78 was recently approved by the IESG as > RFC 4748, to update the boilerplate (i.e., standard legal text) in > RFCs and Internet-Drafts to recognize the IETF Trust as a rights > holder, instead of ISOC. > > The actual boilerplate changes are given below this message. > > Starting as soon as reasonably possible, all authors of Internet- > Drafts are requested to use the new boilerplate. The RFC > Editor will in any case be inserting it in all RFCs issued from > 2006-11-01. 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Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:41:13 +0000 Message-Id: <6.0.0.20.2.20061028093438.05e91fe0@mailsv4.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:38:56 +0900 To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Wataru Imajuku Subject: Re: draft-imajuku-ccamp-rtg-switching-constraint-01.txt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, All I have some queries regarding to URL. I'm sorry, please confirm http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-imajuku-ccamp-rtg-switching-constraint-01.txt Thanks Wataru At 21:32 06/10/27, you wrote: >Dear CCAMPers > > We posted a new ID, draft-imajuku-ccamp-rtg-switching-constraint-01.txt, which assess new routing problem for Reconfigurable Optical Add/Drop Multiplexer. > We are very happy if we could have comments from CCAMPers. > The issue described in the document is confirmed in some tests. > > Also, we have to note that this document has some editorial problem due to unintentional introduction of Japanese font. > Sorry for inconvenience. > >Sincearly >Wataru > >------------------------------------- >Wataru Imajuku@NTT Network Innovation Labs >TEL: +81-46-859-4315 >FAX: +81-468-59-5541 > > > > ------------------------------------- Wataru Imajuku@NTT Network Innovation Labs TEL: +81-46-859-4315 FAX: +81-468-59-5541 Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:01:17 +0000 To: ccamp Subject: Fw: I-D ACTION:draft-papadimitriou-ccamp-gmpls-mrn-extensions-03.txt MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:59:36 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" all, contributors of this document worked on a revision of this document in part. provided the extension for the so-called "induced" or virtual TE link comments and/or feedback appreciated thanks, - dimitri. ----- Forwarded by Dimitri PAPADIMITRIOU/BE/ALCATEL on 27/10/2006 22:22 ----- Internet-Drafts@ietf.org 26/10/2006 21:50 Please respond to internet-drafts To: i-d-announce@ietf.org cc: Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-papadimitriou-ccamp-gmpls-mrn-extensions-03.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Protocol Extensions for Multi-Layer and Multi-Region Networks (MLN/MRN) Author(s) : D. Papadimitriou, et al. Filename : draft-papadimitriou-ccamp-gmpls-mrn-extensions-03.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2006-10-26 There are requirements for the support of networks ccomprising LSRs with different data plane switching layers controlled by a single Generalized Multi Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) control plane instance, referred to as GMPLS Multi-Layer Networks/Multi-Region Networks (MLN/MRN). This document defines extensions to GMPLS routing and signaling protocols so as to support the operation of GMPLS Multi-Layer/Multi-Region Networks. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-papadimitriou-ccamp-gmpls-mrn-extensions-03.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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Title : Procedures for Dynamically Signaled Hierarchical Label Switched Paths Author(s) : K. Shiomoto Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-hierarchy-bis-01.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2006-10-27 This document discusses topics related to hierarchical and stitched Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs). It describes extensions to allow an egress to identify that a bi-directional LSP will be used as a dynamically signaled Forwarding Adjacency LSP (FA-LSP) or Routing Adjacency (RA). In addition, the document also discusses the issue of how to indicate that an LSP should be advertised as a traffic engineering (TE) link into a different instance of the IGP and how to identify the instance that should be used. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-27130333.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-hierarchy-bis-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-hierarchy-bis-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-27130333.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:47:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:46:24 +0800 From: Dan Li Subject: New draft: draft-gao-ccamp-gmpls-msspring-01.txt To: ccamp Message-id: <001301c6f9c5$e9852b10$d04c460a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: base64 RGVhciBDQ0FNUGVycywNCg0KV2WSdmUgcG9zdGVkIG9uZSBuZXcgZHJhZnQ6IFByb2JsZW0gYW5k IEFwcGxpY2FiaWxpdHkgU3RhdGVtZW50cyBmb3IgdGhlIHVzZSBvZiBHZW5lcmFsaXplZCBNdWx0 aS1Qcm90b2NvbCBMYWJlbCBTd2l0Y2hpbmcgKEdNUExTKSB0byBTdXBwb3J0IE11bHRpcGxleCBT ZWN0aW9uIFNoYXJlZCBQcm90ZWN0aW9uIFJpbmcgKE1TLVNQUmluZykNCg0KWW91ciBjb21tZW50 cyBhcmUgdmVyeSB3ZWxjb21lLiANCg0KVGhhbmtzLA0KDQpEYW4gDQoNCkFic3RyYWN0cw0KDQpJ biBvcmRlciB0byBwcm92aWRlIGhpZ2ggYXZhaWxhYmlsaXR5IGZvciB0cmFuc3BvcnQgbmV0d29y a3MsIGxpbmsgIHByb3RlY3Rpb24gdGVjaG5vbG9naWVzIGFyZSBhZG9wdGVkIGluIHRoZSBkYXRh IHBsYW5lLiBJbiBwcmVzZW50ICBTeW5jaHJvbm91cyBEaWdpdGFsIEhpZXJhcmNoeSAoU0RIKSBh bmQgU3luY2hyb25vdXMgT3B0aWNhbCBOZXR3b3JrIChTT05FVCkgb3B0aWNhbCB0cmFuc3BvcnQg bmV0d29ya3MsIG9uZSBvZiB0aGVzZSBwcm90ZWN0aW9uIHRlY2hub2xvZ2llcywgc2hhcmVkIHJp bmcgcHJvdGVjdGlvbiB0ZWNobm9sb2dpZXMsIHN1Y2ggYXMgdGhlIDIvNC1GaWJlciBCaS1kaXJl Y3Rpb25hbCBNdWx0aXBsZXggU2VjdGlvbiBTaGFyZWQgUHJvdGVjdGlvbiBSaW5nKE1TLVNQUmlu ZyksIGFyZSB3aWRlbHkgdXNlZC4gVGhlIHNhbWUgdGVjaG5vbG9naWVzIGNhbiBhbHNvIGJlIGFw cGxpZWQgaW4gT3B0aWNhbCBUcmFuc3BvcnQgTmV0d29ya3MgKE9UTnMpLiBUaGlzIGRvY3VtZW50 IGRlc2NyaWJlcyBhIHNldCBvZiBpc3N1ZXMgdG8gYmUgYWRkcmVzc2VkIHdoZW4gYXBwbHlpbmcg R01QTFMpIHRvIHN1cHBvcnQgTVMtU1BSaW5ncywgYW5kIHNldHMgb3V0IGhvdyBHTVBMUyBjYW4g YmUgYXBwbGllZC4NCiANCkJlY2F1c2Ugd2UgaGF2ZSBtaXNzZWQgdGhlIGZpbmFsIElEIHN1Ym1p c3Npb24gY3V0LW9mZiBkYXRlLCB0aGlzIGRyYWZ0IGNhbiBiZSBmb3VuZCB1bmRlciB0aGUgbWlz c2luZyBkcmFmdHMgbGluayBhdDoNCg0KaHR0cDovL3d3dy5vbGRkb2cuY28udWsvY2NhbXAuaHRt DQo= Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:32:57 +0000 Message-Id: <6.0.0.20.2.20061027212033.06039550@mailsv4.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:32:08 +0900 To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Wataru Imajuku Subject: draft-imajuku-ccamp-rtg-switching-constraint-01.txt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear CCAMPers We posted a new ID, draft-imajuku-ccamp-rtg-switching-constraint-01.txt, which assess new routing problem for Reconfigurable Optical Add/Drop Multiplexer. We are very happy if we could have comments from CCAMPers. The issue described in the document is confirmed in some tests. Also, we have to note that this document has some editorial problem due to unintentional introduction of Japanese font. Sorry for inconvenience. Sincearly Wataru ------------------------------------- Wataru Imajuku@NTT Network Innovation Labs TEL: +81-46-859-4315 FAX: +81-468-59-5541 Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:54:09 +0000 Message-ID: <028601c6f9be$3d81b150$cf849ed9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Incoming correspondence Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:51:19 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, We have received two pieces of correspondence. We were copied on a liaison from the ITU-T to the OIF on call and connection deletion. We have been sent further questions by the OIF on the way to signal Ethernet labels on point-to-point access Ethernet connections at the OIF UNI. You can see these communications through the CCAMP alternative web site http://www.olddog.co.uk/ccamp.htm Thanks, Adrian Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:52:23 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-fmwk-01.txt Message-Id: Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:50:08 -0400 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Framework for MPLS-TE to GMPLS migration Author(s) : K. Shiomoto Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-fmwk-01.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2006-10-26 The migration from Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Traffic Engineering (TE) to Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) is the process of evolving an MPLS-TE control plane to a GMPLS control plane. An appropriate migration strategy can be selected based on various factors including the service provider's network deployment plan, customer demand, and operational policy. This document presents several migration models and strategies for migrating from MPLS-TE to GMPLS and notes that in the course of migration MPLS-TE and GMPLS devices or networks may coexist which may require interworking between MPLS-TE and GMPLS protocols. The applicability? of the interworking that is required is discussed as it appears to influence the choice of a migration strategy. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-26133329.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-fmwk-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-fmwk-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-26133329.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:52:49 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-mib-01.txt Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:50:04 -0400 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Traffic Engineering Database Management Information Base in support of GMPLS Author(s) : T. Otani, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-mib-01.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2006-10-25 This memo defines the Management Information Base (MIB) objects in order to manage traffic engineering database (TED) information with extension in support of Multi-protocol label switching (MPLS) as well as Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) for use with network management protocols. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-mib-01.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-25141234.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-mib-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-mib-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-25141234.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:52:41 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-01.txt Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:50:04 -0400 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : MEF Ethernet Traffic Parameters Author(s) : D. Papadimitriou Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-01.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2006-10-25 This document described the Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) - specific Ethernet Traffic Parameters as described in MEF.10 when using Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Resource ReSerVation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) signaling. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-01.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-01.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-01.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-25135050.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-25135050.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:52:33 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-graceful-shutdown-01.txt Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:50:02 -0400 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Graceful Shutdown in GMPLS Traffic Engineering Networks Author(s) : Z. Ali, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-graceful-shutdown-01.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2006-10-25 GMPLS-TE Graceful shutdown is a method for explicitly notifying the nodes in a Traffic Engineering (TE) enabled network that the TE capability on a link or on an entire Label Switching Router (LSR) is going to be disabled. GMPLS-TE graceful shutdown mechanisms are tailored towards addressing the planned outage in the network. This document provides requirements and protocol mechanisms so as to reduce/eliminate traffic disruption in the event of a planned shutdown of a network resource. These operations are equally applicable for both MPLS and its GMPLS extensions. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-25112940.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-graceful-shutdown-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-graceful-shutdown-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-25112940.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:52:25 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-addressing-05.txt Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:50:03 -0400 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Use of Addresses in Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Networks Author(s) : K. Shiomoto, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-addressing-05.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2006-10-25 This document explains and clarifies the use of addresses in Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) networks. The aim of this document is to facilitate and ensure better interworking of GMPLS-capable Label Switching Routers (LSRs) based on experience gained in deployments and interoperability testing and proper interpretation of published RFCs. The document specifies a proper approach for the interpretation and choice of address and identifier fields within GMPLS protocols and references specific control plane usage models. It also examines some common GMPLS Resource Reservation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) signaling message processing issues and recommends solutions. Finally, it discusses how to handle IPv6 sources and destinations in the MPLS and GMPLS TE (Traffic Engineering) MIB (Management Information Base) modules. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-addressing-05.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-addressing-05.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-addressing-05.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-25115424.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-addressing-05.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-addressing-05.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-25115424.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:20:31 +0000 Message-ID: <453EAD35.2050902@us.fujitsu.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:17:57 -0500 From: Snigdho Bardalai Organization: Fujitsu Network Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050512 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp CC: jplang@ieee.org Subject: Some questions on LMP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have a few questions on LMP. Would like to hear back some opinions on these. First question - Section 9 on "Addressing" mentions that a Config message over a non-point-to-point link (which could mean an ethernet link), must be sent with the destination IP set to the unicast IP address of the neighboring node. Considering a scenario where there are 2 nodes that has mutliple control-channels 1) an out-of-fiber one over a non-point-to-point link 2) an in-fiber one over a point-to-point link Since there is no guarantee that the Config message with the unicast destination IP address meant for control-channel 1) will not get routed out on the point-to-point link what measures should the neighboring node take to properly map the Config message to the correct instance of the control-channel ? Next question - Does RFC4204 consider network reconfiguration scenarios ? For example, if graceful restart is enabled control-channel re-establishment is done using the unicast IP address of the neighboring node in the Config message that was recovered from, say, the non-volatile storage database. At what point in time will the Config message destination IP address switch to the multicast IP address (assuming the control-channel is over a point-to-point link) ? Last question - Graceful restart requires the following (extracted from Section 8): If, however, the node was not capable of retaining the LMP link information across a restart, the node MUST accept the data link parameters of the received LinkSummary message and respond with a LinkSummaryAck message. Should a node not capable of retaining any information across a restart respond with a LinkSummaryAck in case link verification is enabled ? The issue is the information that is being accepted may not be correct. Thanks, Snigdho Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:52:18 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-mln-reqs-02.txt Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:50:02 -0400 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for GMPLS-based multi-region and multi-layer networks (MRN/MLN) Author(s) : K. Shiomoto, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-mln-reqs-02.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2006-10-23 Most of the initial efforts on Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) have been related to environments hosting devices with a single switching capability. The complexity raised by the control of such data planes is similar to that seen in classical IP/MPLS networks. By extending MPLS to support multiple switching technologies, GMPLS provides a comprehensive framework for the control of a multi- layered network of either a single switching technology or multiple switching technologies. In GMPLS, a switching technology domain defines a region, and a network of multiple switching types is referenced in this document as a multi-region network (MRN). When referring in general to a layered network, which may consist of either a single or multiple regions, this document uses the term, Multi-layer Network (MLN). This draft defines a framework for GMPLS based multi-region/multi-layer networks and lists a set of functional requirements. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-mln-reqs-02.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Evaluation of existing GMPLS Protocols against Multi Layer and Multi Region Networks (MLN/MRN) Author(s) : J. Le Roux, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-mln-eval-02.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2006-10-23 This document provides an evaluation of Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) protocols and mechanisms against the requirements for Multi-Layer Networks (MLN) and Multi-Region Networks (MRN). In addition, this document identifies areas where additional protocol extensions or procedures are needed to satisfy these requirements, and provides guidelines for potential extensions. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-mln-eval-02.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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A new RFC has been published. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4631.txt provides some small updates and clarifications to the SNMP MIB module for the Link Management Protocol (LMP). It obsoletes RFC 4327, the previous version of this MIB module. Section 14 of the new RFC shows a list of the changes. The CCAMP working group continues to make good progress in many areas. Full details of the work of CCAMP can be found at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ccamp-charter.html from where all of the latest revisions of the various RFCs and Internet-Drafts can be freely downloaded without charge. Four Internet-Drafts that may be of particular interest to your members are listed below. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-01.txt is a relatively new work item that examines the requirements and procedures for using GMPLS protocols to support Virtual Concatenation Groups across TDM networks. We believe this may be of particular interest to you in support of Ethernet services over TDM. The Abstract of this draft reads as follows: This document describes requirements for, and use of, the Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) control plane in conjunction with the Virtual Concatenation (VCAT) layer 1 inverse multiplexing mechanism and its companion Link Capacity Adjustment Scheme (LCAS) which can be used for hitless dynamic resizing of the inverse multiplex group. These techniques apply to the Optical Transport Network (OTN), Synchronous Optical Network (SONET), Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH), and Plesiochronous Digital Hierarchy (PDH) signals. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-02.txt describes extensions to the OSPF routing protocol to satisfy the ASON routing requirements as set out in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4258.txt in the light of the evaluation provided in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-eval-03.txt (both of which were written with considerable help from some of your individual members). The Abstract of this draft reads as follows: The Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) suite of protocols has been defined to control different switching technologies as well as different applications. These include support for requesting TDM connections including SONET/SDH and Optical Transport Networks (OTNs). This document provides the extensions of the OSPFv2 Link State Routing Protocol to meet the routing requirements for an Automatically Switched Optical Network (ASON) as defined by ITU-T. In view of the fact that this work addresses the ASON routing requirements, we would like to solicit your review and feedback on this draft. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-00.txt presents a GMPLS Sender_TSpec (and hence a Flowspec) for Ethernet Traffic Parameters as described in MEF.10. The Abstract of this draft reads as follows: This document described the Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) - specific Ethernet Traffic Parameters as described in MEF.10 when using Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Resource ReSerVation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) signaling. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-rsvp-te-call-01.txt describes extensions to RSVP-TE for the establishment and management of Calls in GMPLS networks, and for the association of LSPs (connections) with those Calls. The Abstract if this draft reads as follows: In certain networking topologies, it may be advantageous to maintain associations between endpoints and key transit points to support an instance of a service. Such associations are known as Calls. A Call does not provide the actual connectivity for transmitting user traffic, but only builds a relationship by which subsequent Connections may be made. In Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) such Connections are known as Label Switched Paths (LSPs). This document specifies how GMPLS RSVP-TE signaling may be used and extended to support Calls. These mechanisms provide full and logical Call/Connection separation. The mechanisms proposed in this document are applicable to any environment (including multi-area), and for any type of interface: packet, layer-2, time-division multiplexed, lambda or fiber switching. The CCAMP Working Group welcomes comments on its work at any time. These can be sent by anyone to the CCAMP mailing list. Details of how to subscribe to the list together with information on all of the work currently being pursued by the working group can be found at the charter page: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ccamp-charter.html Regards, Adrian Farrel and Deborah Brungard CCAMP Working Group Co-Chairs Attachment(s): No document has been attached Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:52:21 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-01.txt Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:50:02 -0400 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Operating Virtual Concatenation (VCAT) and the Link Capacity Adjustment Scheme (LCAS) with Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Author(s) : G. Bernstein, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-01.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2006-10-22 This document describes requirements for, and use of, the Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) control plane in conjunction with the Virtual Concatenation (VCAT) layer 1 inverse multiplexing mechanism and its companion Link Capacity Adjustment Scheme (LCAS) which can be used for hitless dynamic resizing of the inverse multiplex group. These techniques apply to the Optical Transport Network (OTN), Synchronous Optical Network (SONET), Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH), and Plesiochronous Digital Hierarchy (PDH) signals. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-22182135.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-22182135.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:57:53 +0000 Message-ID: <0eb101c6f5ea$068527e0$540110ac@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Fw: [Isis-wg] CCAMP Working group last call ondraft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:54:01 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comments received on the IS-IS mailing list from Les Ginsberg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" To: "Adrian Farrel" ; ; ; Cc: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" ; Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:36 AM Subject: RE: [Isis-wg] CCAMP Working group last call ondraft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt In regards to the IS-IS definitions, there is (again - sorry JP...) confusion in the use of the terms TLV and subTLV. For example, in Section 2 it states: A new TLV is defined for ISIS and OSPF: the TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV, to be carried within: - The ISIS Capability TLV ([ISIS-CAP]) for ISIS... If the information is carried within another TLV, then it is clearly subTLV information - the difference between the two is more than terminology since it impacts both the encoding and the scope of the identifiers which are assigned. Section 4.2 then goes on to discuss: "The format of the IS-IS TE Node Capability TLV" - which is, as pointed out above, actually a subTLV. And then goes on to define "subsubTLVs" (which are incorrectly called subTLVs). As "subsubTLVs" are new to IS-IS encoding some discussion of this added level of hierarchy is required. However, I think it might also be fair to entertain the possibility that the "TE Node Capability subTLV" be deleted and the "subsubTLVs" defined in the subsections of 4.2 be defined more directly as subTLVs of the IS-IS CAPs TLV. This is possible because as currently defined, the "TE Node Capability subTLV" has no information at the subTLV level - it is simply a container for the subsubTLV information. This would allow for a more efficient encoding without any loss of functionality. Whatever the resolution, all the text relating to this must be reworded to be consistent and accurate. I would also prefer that the wording of the following sentence in Section 5.2: "An empty TE Node Capability Descriptor MUST be discarded." be changed to "An empty TE Node Capability Descriptor MUST be ignored." The term "discard" suggests that a router which leaks a CAP TLV containing TE node capability information might be required to modify the contents of that TLV - which is something to be avoided. Les > -----Original Message----- > From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:22 AM > To: isis-wg@ietf.org; ospf@ietf.org; mpls@lists.ietf.org > Cc: Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS; routing-discussion@ietf.org > Subject: [Isis-wg] CCAMP Working group last call ondraft-ietf-ccamp-te- > node-cap-02.txt > > Heads up. > > The CCAMP working group is holding a working group last call on this > draft. > > Your input is invited. > > Please send comments direct to the CCAMP mailing list or to the WG chairs > (Deborah and/or me) if you are not subscribed to CCAMP. > > Thanks, > Adrian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrian Farrel" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:34 AM > Subject: Working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt > > > > This starts a two week working group last on > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt > > > > Please send your comments to the CCAMP mailing list by 12 midnight UK > time > > on Monday 30th October > > > > Thanks, > > Adrian and Deborah > > > > _______________________________________________ > Isis-wg mailing list > Isis-wg@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:31:12 +0000 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:28:52 -0500 From: Lucy Yong Subject: reservation and time based bandwidth service. To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org, l1vpn@ietf.org Message-id: <000001c6f49f$82562960$f00c7c0a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8vBocTyTmW5TkwflmhmKow)" Thread-index: Acb0njZ+7Hy+6LYSSOuIYLm+fYxq4A== This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_8vBocTyTmW5TkwflmhmKow) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_aq3eSeWQIxbmzn/FjChoBA)" --Boundary_(ID_aq3eSeWQIxbmzn/FjChoBA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Group, The draft provides information about ASON/GMPLS extension for reservation and time based bandwidth service. Due to some upload error, the draft has not shown in I-D Announce yet. We like to send to the mail list ahead so people have a chance to read it now. Thanks, Lucy --Boundary_(ID_aq3eSeWQIxbmzn/FjChoBA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

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--Boundary_(ID_aq3eSeWQIxbmzn/FjChoBA)-- --Boundary_(ID_8vBocTyTmW5TkwflmhmKow) Content-type: text/plain; name=draft-yong-ccamp-ason-gmpls-autobw-service-00.txt Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: attachment; filename=draft-yong-ccamp-ason-gmpls-autobw-service-00.txt CCAMP Working Group L. Yong Internet-Draft Y. Lee Intended status: Informational Huawei USA Expires: April 21, 2007 October 18, 2006 ASON/GMPLS Extension for Reservation and Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service draft-yong-ccamp-ason-gmpls-autobw-service-00 Status of this Memo By submitting this Internet-Draft, each author represents that any applicable patent or other IPR claims of which he or she is aware have been or will be disclosed, and any of which he or she becomes aware will be disclosed, in accordance with Section 6 of BCP 79. Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet- Drafts. Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference material or to cite them other than as "work in progress." The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt. The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed at http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html. This Internet-Draft will expire on April 21, 2007. Copyright Notice Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2006). Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 1] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 Abstract The draft presents ASON/GMPLS architecture extension for reservation and time based automatic bandwidth services. It introduces additional service intelligence function to the control plane. It describes the service scenarios and procedures for automatic bandwidth service. It also discusses the potential services enabled by the service intelligence function. Table of Contents 1. Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1.1. Conventions used in this document . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 1.2. Terminology . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 1.3. Acronyms . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 2. Motivation for Reservation and Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 3. ASON/GMPLS Architecture Extension for Reservation and Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 3.1. Architecture . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 3.2. Reservation Service Activation and Deactivation Procedures . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 3.3. Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service . . . . . . . . . . 12 3.4. Protocol between Reservation System and Control Plane . . 14 3.5. Time Based Connection Path Management . . . . . . . . . . 14 4. Multi-Layer and Multi-Domain Networks . . . . . . . . . . . . 17 5. Architecture Advantages . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 6. Other Architecture Solution . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 7. Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21 8. IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22 9. Acknowledgements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23 10. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24 10.1. Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24 10.2. Informative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24 Authors' Addresses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25 Intellectual Property and Copyright Statements . . . . . . . . . . 26 Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 2] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 1. Introduction ASON and GMPLS based architectures have been developed for a long time in standard bodies. One of objectives is to allow user instantly request a bandwidth from optical transport networks using standard protocols. We refer to this model as instant bandwidth service. The user could be a customer, a client from a different network layer or from a different administration domain. This model is adopted from traditional telephony networks, where the network instantly establishes a connection path when a call request comes and takes down the connection when the call finishes. Internet technology boosts the network intelligence capability, which drives a desire of building the similar intelligence in an optical transport network and thus enabling an instant bandwidth service in which connection is instantly provided upon the service request from a user. Although the instant bandwidth service is a prevalent mode in ASON/ GMPLS control plane architecture, some dedicate bandwidth services such as private line are provided based on a reservation. For example, traditional private line services have been offered in the way that customer needs to order the service first through an administrative system, then carrier set up the circuit and work with the customer to verify the connection paths. Although this service model is rather rigid and operation intensive, for a permanent connection and a large bandwidth connection, a carrier still prefers a way to do reservation and time based bandwidth service. In addition, some customer may want to reserve the service ahead based on the future needs and wants the bandwidth to be guaranteed at a specific time it desires. We refer to this capability as reservation based automatic bandwidth service through out this document. Another consideration is that although customer connection could be dynamic, sometimes the traffic presents a certain pattern as time, as an alternate solution for the instant bandwidth service, a connection could be managed as a function of time. We refer to this capability as time based automatic bandwidth service through out this document. This document introduces ASON/GMPLS architecture extension to support reservation and time based automatic bandwidth service. It presents the application scenarios and service procedures. It also describes potential new components in a control plane to support the services. In addition, the comparison between instant bandwidth service and reservation based bandwidth service is discussed. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 3] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 1.1. Conventions used in this document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 [RFC2119]. 1.2. Terminology Client Layer: In multi-layer networks, client layer is the layer that could request a service from the server layer. For example, IP client layer request a bandwidth from OTN server layer. Connection Manager: A entity that establish and remove a connection and maintain all existing connections. Event Register: A entity that hold all the time related events and announce an event when its specified time arrives. Policy Manager: A entity that manage all the policy profiles. Policy Profile: A entity that gather all the policy rules associated with a connection or a set of connections. Policy Rules: A rule associated with a connection. It may relate to an event or time. Reservation based automatic bandwidth service: The connection request could be booked in carrier reservation system ahead of service time. When the service time arrives, the network could automatically build up the connection. Reservation System: A system can book a connection reservation from a customer. Server Layer: In multi-layer networks, server layer is the layer that could provide a service to its client layer. Time based automatic bandwidth service: The connection path or bandwidth could be managed as a function of time. 1.3. Acronyms AIS Alarm Indication Signal ASON Automatically Switched Optical Network DOM Day Of a Month Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 4] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 ENNI External Network to Network Interface. GMPLS Generalized Multi-protocol Label Switching HOY Holiday Of a Year NE Network Element NMS Network Management System OTN Optical Transport Network SDH Synchronous Digital Hierarchy SONET Synchronous Optical Network TDM Time Division Multiplexing TOD Time of a Day UNEQ-P Unequipped Path UNI User Network Interface Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 5] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 2. Motivation for Reservation and Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service IP network success motivates people to develop network intelligence in an optical transport network. One objective is to enable automatic connection route selection, connection path establishment and removal, and connection management in an optical network and automatic interworking with other layer network such as IP network. Another objective is to allow user to instantly request a network bandwidth when it needs. The control plane based network architecture is defined by both IETF [RFC3945] and ITU-T [ITU-T G.8080]. Numerous protocols have been developed by IETF since then. Current instant based bandwidth service model supported in ASON/GMPLS architecture is shown in Figure 1. The network contains a control plane and a data plane. A user or client equipment connects to a network element (node) via physical interface. This interface is called User Network Interface(UNI) [RFC4208] [ITU-T G.8080]. There is a signaling channel between a user and the network. When a user needs a bandwidth from one point to another, it can send a connection request to the control plane via the signaling channel. The request will specify the pre-defined network source and destination node addresses, port IDs, bandwidth, and other service parameters. The control plane will process the request, select connection route(s) in the network and build the connection path(s) in the data plane according the service request. After the user receives the confirmation message about the connection completion, user could start data transmission over the data plane. The data stream is then transmitted along the reserved path toward the destination. Figure 2 show the signaling flows for the connection establishment and data transmission.[RFC4208] [RFC3473]. When a user completes the bandwidth usage, it sends a disconnect request to the network, the network takes down the connection path and releases the bandwidth for reuse. Signaling Channel | | __ |-----------------------------| V __ | |-----| Control Plane |-----| | | | UNI |-----------------------------| UNI | | |__|=====| Data Plane |=====|__| User |-----------------------------| A User | | | |<--- Network --->| | | Physical Interface Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 6] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 Figure 1: ASON/GMPLS Architecture Network User Control Data User Plane Plane | | | | Path +----->|------------------------>| | | /| Resv |<-----|<----------------------/ | |\ | | ResvConf | \--->|------------------------>| | | | Data |<====================>|<=======>| Transmission| | | Figure 2: Signaling Flow For Path Establishment and Data Transmission There are some differences between ASON and GMPLS architecture models regarding the UNI interface. ASON uses carrier oriented domain architecture model. UNI is used between user and a network domain; ENNI is used between two network domains. The ASON control plane supports service establishment through the automatic provisioning of end-to-end connection across one or more domains. In contrast, GMPLS has peer model and overlay model. In the peer model, it assumes a community of users with mutual trust and shared goals. There are no inherent policy or security boundaries, and routing and signaling protocols flow within the network without filtering or other constraints imposed. In the overlay model [RFC4208], it assumes that the network nodes act as a closed system, and that user nodes are not aware of the topology of the network, though network and user nodes may have a routing protocol interaction for the exchange of reachability information to other user nodes. Regardless of the architecture differences in ASON and GMPLS, both models share the same service characteristics in which the service is requested at the time the connection needs. In other words, service request and service time are tightly coupled. This service model may raise concerns for carriers to offer all the bandwidth services in optical transport networks in this manner. Here are the major concerns: 1) It is hard for carriers to predict user demand and guarantee the dedicated bandwidth when user needs it. Some user may want to book the bandwidth ahead to ensure the bandwidth availability. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 7] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 2) For some Permanent Connection (PC) or a high bandwidth connection, carriers may want to let a customer book in advance and automatically provision the connection when service time arrives. This way gives carriers a chance to plan the network resource ahead of service time if necessary. 3) Having user directly request the bandwidth from network through the signaling channel that directly communicates with the optical control plane could potentially introduce a big security concerns for carrier. Since the control plane is the network brain, it can not tolerate any possibility of outsider attack. Thus, the special security function for the signaling channel at UNI is required. 4) A carrier may not want to expose its network to its customer. To support UNI, carrier has to define a separated node address, port ID for customer to use, and the advertisement of customer reachability in the control plane, which adds the complexity and cost for a carrier. 5) Some optical data plane takes time to have a path run clean even the connection path already established from optical control plane. Therefore, user may get a lot of corrupted payloads initially. 6) The service model presents a big challenge for service operation and back office system integration. Today this instant bandwidth service model has been rarely deployed in a real network although the protocols have been standardized in the standard body for a while. It is believed due to two major reasons: 1) most of bandwidth services offered by optical networks are relatively static and could be reserved ahead of service time; 2) the service model and its benefits are still under carrier investigation because of these concerns. The questions are raised: could ASON/GMPLS architecture support reservation based automatic bandwidth service? could ASON/GMPLS architectures support time based automatic bandwidth service as an alternate solution for bandwidth on demand service. Furthermore, how could we enhance the control plane to be of service intelligence? These questions motivate this draft to discuss the possibility of ASON/GMPLS architecture extension to support reservation and time based automatic bandwidth services. * The reservation based automatic bandwidth service is that the connection service could be booked in carrier reservation system ahead of service time. When the service time arrives, the network could automatically build up the connection path. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 8] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 * The time based automatic connection is that an existing connection or bandwidth can be managed as a function of time. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 9] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 3. ASON/GMPLS Architecture Extension for Reservation and Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service 3.1. Architecture The great advantage of ASON/GMPLS is to have network intelligence for network discovery, route selection, path establishment, connection management. The question is how to utilize the intelligence for a reservation based bandwidth request. Figure 3 illustrates a possible architecture model for a reservation based automatic bandwidth service. In this model, it is assumed that user equipment has been connected to network with a physical interface such as SONET or Ethernet; there is no signaling channel between user and network. The control plane enabled network is able to automatically select a route and set up the connection path. A reservation system is provided by a carrier. +------------+ +---------+ ------>|Reservation |<----->| OSS | Service Request | System | +---------+ +-----+------+ | | __ |-------------V---------------| __ | | | Control Plane | | | | | |-----------------------------| | | |__|=====| Data Plane |=====|__| User |-----------------------------| A User | | | |<---- Network ---->| | | Physical Interface Figure 3: ASON/GMPLS Architecture Extension The service Reservation System (RS) allows user to book the service request ahead of service time. User could specify the service start time and end time if available, source and destination, bandwidth, and other service parameters. The RS needs go through the service validation processes including customer account, connection points, service quality, etc. To accomplish these steps, the RS needs to communicate with some back office systems (OSS) such as account, inventory system. After completing the validation processes, the RS converts the request to a connection order in a database, and send a confirmation message back to the customer. For bandwidth reservation, a provider could use booking information Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 10] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 in the database to prepare network resource ahead. Since some services may use the bandwidth over the same network segment in different time period, they could use the same bandwidth resource at different time. In TDM network, the bandwidth refers to "timeslot". Thus, the resource planning is to estimate a bandwidth pool in network to ensure that all booked services can get the bandwidth at its service time. If a "special" service really requests to book and allocate network resource ahead service time, it should be allowed under some condition such as the ahead period prior to the service time and/or price. 3.2. Reservation Service Activation and Deactivation Procedures When the service time arrives, the RS generates a connection request to the network source node of the connection, the source node will select route(s) first and then establish the connection path toward destination node using GMPLS signaling protocol. The signaling flow for the connection establishment shows in Figure 4. The RS may provide the explicit route list depending on the implementation, then the network only needs to establish the connection path. Although the network already allocates bandwidth for the connection, user may not generate traffic yet; unequipped path(UNEQ-P)or alarm indication signal(AIS-P)could be generated by SONET/SDH or OTN data plane. Thus, the control plane needs to inform the nodes that the path is in waiting payload period and starts a waiting period timer; the nodes should not start the path monitor at this time. Administrative Status Information object in GMPLS signaling may be used in cooperation on this step. For an advanced situation, the network could enable an automatic data path verification process before getting into the waiting period. Network User Reservation Control Data User System Plane Plane | | | | | Service +----->| | | | booking | | | | | Confirmation |<-----| | | | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Request | |----------->| | | | | | | | Confirmation | |<-----------| | | | | | Data |<============================>|<=======>| Transmission| | | Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 11] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 Figure 4: Reservation based RSVP-TE Signaling Flow When user begins to generate the traffic, both ingress and egress nodes could detect the payload and inform the control plane. The control plane at the source node will stop the timer, inform the node to start monitor the path. The administrative status information object may be used to inform the connection status. If the waiting timer is expired, the control plane may take down the connection path and inform the RS about service cancellation. The waiting time can be selected by user or a default timer provided by carrier. To tear down the connection, there could be two scenarios. First, a customer does not specify the end time of its connection, it simply asks network to take down the connection when it stops sending traffic. Second, a customer specifies the ending time in the service scheduler system. In the first scenario, customer stops sending data stream when it finishes, the nodes at ingress and/or egress detect the payload missing, the ingress node informs the control plane. The control plane waits for certain period (configurable or defined in service profile), then the source node initiates the teardown message toward the destination node. It will send a service completion message to the reservation system. The system will go through the service completion process. It is necessary that the nodes at ingress and egress differentiate a link or equipment failure from payload missing and inform the control plane with different status changes. In the second scenario, the RS sends a disconnection request to the control plane when the service period expires. The control plane informs the source and destination nodes to inject UNEQ-P signaling toward user if the interface is SONET or OTN. Then, the source node sends a path teardown message toward the destination node and send a service completion message to the RS. The RS will go through the service completion process. The solution suggested here provides an alternate way to automatically establish a connection path in ASON/GMPLS network. Once the connection is established, the control plane can manage the connection based on the service request such as service protection requirement. 3.3. Time Based Automatic Bandwidth Service The reservation based automatic bandwidth service solution allows carrier further implementing event driven service such as a time Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 12] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 based bandwidth service. A time based service means that the connection path could be automatically setup, taken down, or modified based on the pre-scheduled time. For example, a connection will be setup two hours every day for three months or 600Mbps during the day and 150Mbps at night. In this case, the reservation system allows customer to specify time based connection request. For this advanced application, the RS could convert the reservation into a connection request associated with a policy profile. When an initial connection time arrives, it will send a connection request with the policy profile to the control plane. The control plane will maintain the policy profile and execute the policy rules specified in the policy profile. Figure 5 shows some policy rules but not limited to. How the control plane supports the time based connection request will be discussed in the section 3.5. +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Rule Type | Time Duration | Action | |--------------+-------------------+---------------------| | TOD | 8AM-5PM | Maintain Connection | | Time of Day |-------------------+---------------------| | | Other | Terminate Connection| |--------------+-------------------+---------------------| | DOW | M - F | Maintain 600MBW | | Day of Week |-------------------+---------------------| | | Sa-Su | Maintain 200MBW | +--------------+-------------------+---------------------+ Figure 5: Policy Rules Followings are some potential service features that could be implemented through the reservation based bandwidth service but not limited to. 1) Bandwidth service is specified in time pattern, for example, time of day, day of month, holiday of year, etc. If the connection is taken down during the break time, it is possible that the new connection path differs from the old but the service quality remains the same. The carrier needs to plan the network resource ahead to ensure the bandwidth availability. 2) Bandwidth modification for an existing connection. Customer specifies bandwidth variance to the time for a connection. In this case, the control plane can modify the connection bandwidth without service disruption. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 13] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 3) One reservation for a group of connections among a set of client ports. The set of client ports could share a same profile. Time based traffic pattern can be specified among the ports. For example, there are 10 ports, the first four ports need 200 Mbps and last six ports need 100 Mbps in day time; two ports need 500Mbps, the rest needs 50 Mbps at night. 4) Service extension for an existing connection. Customer could extend the service time through the reservation system. 5) Combined above services. The combined service offers a lot of flexibility for the bandwidth service. Thus, it may serve as a bandwidth on demand service. 3.4. Protocol between Reservation System and Control Plane There are some protocols needed between the reservation system and the control plane. It is recommended to use existing signaling protocol, i.e. extend GMPLS signaling protocol to the RS. In this case, the RS acts as GMPLS signaling agent. The RS can send a connection request to the source node using GMPLS protocol. Since the RS and network belong to the same carrier administrative domain, RS can directly use network internal address and port information in the connection request. Thus, it is like a user interface in GMPLS peer model. For the time based service, there will be additional enhanced objects in GMPLS protocol to carry the time based service information. Another way to implement is to develop Management Information Base (MIB) modules between RS and control plane to carry the connection request information. This implementation requires control plane to convert MIB into signaling message for an end-to-end path establishment. 3.5. Time Based Connection Path Management A control plane is expected to manage a connection in an event driven policy. For example, when a failure happens [POLICY], it can select another route for user or allocate the reserved protection path in shared mesh configuration. To support time based connection management, the control plane needs to have a time trigger and event register function. Figure 6 shows a possible connection controller structure to manage a scheduled event. There are three components plus a time ticker. The connection manager(CM) is responsible for connection establishment and maintenance. The policy manager(PM) manages all the connection rules. These rules may be associated with an network event and/or time event. The Event Register(ER) can table all time related events that will be triggered when the time arrives. When a connection Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 14] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 request comes from RS, CM in the source node processes the request and establishes the initial connection by using GMPLS protocol. If there is a time based policy profile associated with the connection, CM sends the connection ID and policy profile to PM. PM processes the policy profile and registers the time based events into the ER. When an event is on time, EM notifies PM on the event. PM sends the action with connection ID to CM. Then CM executes the action on the connection. Such time based function empowers a control plane to actively manage the connection path. It is possible that a time based connection may be routed through difference paths during different connection time but the service quality remains the same. How to keep a time based connection in the same route needs future study. Connection Controller Connection +----------------------------------+ Request | | from RS | +------------+ +------------+ | ------------+>| Connection +----> Policy | | | | Manager <----+ Manager | | | +------------+ +--A----+----+ | | | | | | +-----------+ +-----+----V----+ | | |Time Ticker|->| Event Register| | | +-----------+ +---------------+ | + ---------------------------------+ Figure 6: Connection Controller Structure There is a debate whether the time based connection management should reside in the control plane or management plane, i.e. Network Management System (NMS). NMS is a centralized system. It responses to collect fault alarms and performance data from network, provide equipment configuration and service provisioning, and support all the operation activities. It is possible to implement time based connection management function in NMS. In this case, NMS keeps tracking all connections created by the control plane and maintain the time based policy profiles. When an event arrives, NMS finds out the associated connection ID and its source node, then sends the event to the control plane. The control plane executes the event. In the model, both control plane and NMS manage the connections. Who has the connection ownership is questionable. The model may create a lot of communications between the NMS and control plane for a large network or frequent connection changes, which could cause a scalability problem and infrastructure challenge. In contrast, using Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 15] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 control plane to manage time based connection provides the distributing management in the control plane and the control plane fully manages and maintains the connections, which presents some advantages. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 16] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 4. Multi-Layer and Multi-Domain Networks ASON architecture supports a multi-layer and multi-domain configuration. [MLN/MRN] The solution described here work for multi- layer networks as well. Figure 7 illustrates a multi-layer network in general. Customer equipment physically connect to an ASON network at client layer, for example, through Ethernet interface, the network ingress and egress have client layer interfaces; the network side interfaces have server layer interfaces. The customer could book a connection request from client layer without knowing the network topology and architecture at all. When the service time arrives, the scheduler system will send the connection request to the control plane, the control plane will select the path route over client layer adaptation and server layer to establish the connection path. If the server layer path is already existed, the control plane could also build a connection path over the existing tunnel in server layer depending on the service request or control plane policy. In the similar way, when tearing down a connection, if there are multiple connections in client layer such as multiple VLANs, client layer will only tear down the VLAN path in the client layer. When tearing down the last VLAN path in a tunnel, the control plane could take down the tunnel as well depending on the service request or control plane policy. The reservation based service model allows provider to manage the server layer connection separately from the client layer connection. Based on the customer needs, the reservation system could let server layer to establish a tunnel that connects to ingress and egress at client layer first. For example, set up a SONET connection and use GFP at ingress and egress to map to Ethernet port. Thus, when cusomter wants a P2P connection at Ethernet, the connection can be built directly over end-to-end client layer through the server layer tunnel. Multiple P2P connections may be built over a tunnel. As a result, client layer connections could be very dynamic while a server layer connection is relative static. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 17] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 +------------+ +------+ -------->| Reservation|<--->| OSS | Service Request | System | +------+ +------------+ | | User +--+ | +--+ User Data Stream ----> =====| | | | |====== Client Layer ..............|..|.......|.......|..|.................... | +-------V-------+ | Server Layer | | +---------------------+ Network Figure 7: Multi-Layer Network The solution could apply to multi-domain configuration as well. In this scenario, there could be one reservation system to support multi-domains or each domain has its own reservation system. If customer needs to build a connection across multi-domains, it can book through one system or several systems. A reservation system will use the same semantics to build connection path through the control plane. External Network to Network Interface (ENNI) will be used between domains. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 18] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 5. Architecture Advantages The architecture model for reservation and time based automatic bandwidth services adopt ASON/GMPLS architecture model and combine with Web application technology. It de-couples service request time and service time, which provides a great value for carriers and customers. It provides a practical architecture to a bandwidth on demand service in an optical transport network. It has following advantages compared to UNI based instant bandwidth service. 1.Reservation based automatic bandwidth service can provide better bandwidth guarantee for the customer. Carrier can observe reservations and plan the network resources. 2.It does not need a signaling channel between user and network, i.e. no UNI interface. This simplifies the service model. To support UNI, carrier has to work out separated node address and port ID for customer to use, and the advertisement of customer reachability in the network. 3.Since there is no signaling channel between user and network control plane, it eliminates the possibility that a control plane is attacked from UNI signaling channel. 4.This allows network to pre-verify the data plane path by using an embedded tool or automatically tune a data plane path to ensure the path running clean. 5.This service model is more close to the private line services that carrier offer today. It could co-exist with existing ASON/GMPLS architecture. 6.Advanced reservation system could be designed to offer very flexible and dynamic service for customers as mentioned above. 7.The architecture model allows carrier easier to implement the services in term of service operation and back office system support. Internet technology enables many WEB based reservation applications. Integrating ASON/GMPLS architecture with the reservation based system boosts optical control plane capability to support automatic bandwidth service and open potentials for other advanced services such as L1VPN and bandwidth trading. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 19] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 6. Other Architecture Solution The architecture solution discussed in this document is one way to implement the reservation and time based automatic bandwidth service. The separation between the reservation system and control plane provides a realistic way for the implementation from many perspectives. The reservation system can be interwork with other back office systems to provide customer account management, inventory verification, resource management, and security management. The control plane only responses for the connection management. Another solution is to directly implement reservation and time based automatic bandwidth service through UNI interface, i.e. enhance the GMPLS signaling protocol between user and network interface to allow carrying these time based service information and let control plane interwork with back office system to perform all the validation processes and manage the services. Authors think this architecture design is not a practical design for carrier and it will add more concerns about the service models over UNI beyond mentioned in this document. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 20] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 7. Security Considerations This implementation eliminates the security concern at UNI and requires security management in the scheduler system. Each user needs to have a private account and security procedure before it can summit its service request. The architecture presents little possibility to attack the network. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 21] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 8. IANA Considerations There is no IANA actions requested in this specification. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 22] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 9. Acknowledgements Authors would like to thank James Zhu and Dan Li from Huawei, Adrian Farrel from olddog, Tomonori TAKEDA and Kensuke SHINDOME from NTT, and D'Allessandro Alessandro from Telecom Italia for the review and great suggestions. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 23] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 10. References 10.1. Normative References [ITU-T G.8080] ITU-T, "Architecture for the Automatically Switched Optical Network(ASON).", January 2003. [RFC2119] Bradner, S., "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement Levels", RFC 2119, March 1997. [RFC3471] Berger (Editor)et al.,, L., "Generalized MPLS signaling Functional Description", RFC 3471, January 2003. [RFC3473] Berger, L., "Generalized MPLS Signaling - RSVP-TE Extensions", RFC 3473, January 2003. [RFC3945] Mannie, Ed.,, E., "Gemeralized Multi-Protocol Lable Switching (GMPLS) Achitecture", RFC 3945, October 2004. [RFC3946] Mannie, E. and D. Papadimitriou, "Generalized Multi- Protocol Label Switch (GMPLS) Extension for Synchronoous Optical Network (SONET) and Sychronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH) Control", RFC 3946, December 2005. [RFC4208] Swallow, G., Drake, J., Ishimatsu, H., and Y. Rekhter, "Generalized Multiprotocl Label Switching (GMPLS) User- Network Interface (UNI): Resource Rervation Protocol- Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) Support for hte pverlay model", RFC 4208, October 2005. 10.2. Informative References [MLN/MRN] Shiomoto, et al., K., "Requirement for GMPLS-based multi- region and multi-kayer networks", January 2003. [POLICY] Lee , Y. and Z. James , "Framework for the Polocy-Based Mechanism in GMPLS Network", May 2006. Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 24] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 Authors' Addresses Lucy Yong Huawei USA 1700 Alma Dr. Suite 100 Plano, TX 75075 Phone: +1 469-229-5387 Email: lucyyong@huawei.com Young Lee Huawei USA 1700 Alma Dr. Suite 100 Plano, TX 75075 Phone: +1 469-229-2240 Email: ylee@huawei.com Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 25] Internet-Draft ASON-GMPLS Extension October 2006 Full Copyright Statement Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2006). 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The IETF invites any interested party to bring to its attention any copyrights, patents or patent applications, or other proprietary rights that may cover technology that may be required to implement this standard. Please address the information to the IETF at ietf-ipr@ietf.org. Acknowledgment Funding for the RFC Editor function is provided by the IETF Administrative Support Activity (IASA). Yong & Lee Expires April 21, 2007 [Page 26] --Boundary_(ID_8vBocTyTmW5TkwflmhmKow)-- Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:00:25 +0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20061018085028.06106aa0@labn.net> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:57:48 -0400 To: "Peng He" From: Lou Berger Subject: Re: Internet Draft draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-segment-recovery-03.txt Cc: lberger@labn.net,ccamp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Peng, I think this is a path computation/engineering question more than one of signaling semantics. The only *required* restriction/implication on EROs is already listed in the draft, namely: The first subobject MUST indicate the node that is to originate the recovery LSP, i.e. the segment branch node. The address used SHOULD also be listed in the ERO or another SERO. other than that, there's no required change, i.e., as always it's up to the TE application (and the PCE function) to decide which parts of the ERO should be loose or strict. From the practical application standpoint, I certainly see the value in the use of some strict subobjects. Lou At 02:23 PM 10/17/2006, Peng He wrote: >Hello Lou, > >I am reading your draft on segment recovery. I wonder if the ERO (of >the working LSP) in the PATH message must be strict? Thanks. > >Regards, >Peng > > > > Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:27:11 +0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kaFPKGb9UFF4qbeAo7oGvXJt2pCd5YkTEaGOr4u4WKQMM0gUpGRk9BNgCVjjH51j+iGGYSZrSJruiaSqlF6ynTwo7cKUoEV5eTUFbvLREh9u8HF364ORQjZZ+GZud6etv/ivmB71LB9bgScTsGpCIuOU/Xi9jD3QjfkDjiSNLho= Message-ID: <406e32c00610171123v118e5a39taa90deb8d9f7dd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:23:56 -0400 From: "Peng He" To: lberger@labn.net, ccamp Subject: Internet Draft draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-segment-recovery-03.txt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello Lou, I am reading your draft on segment recovery. I wonder if the ERO (of the working LSP) in the PATH message must be strict? Thanks. Regards, Peng Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:37:31 +0000 Message-ID: <04d701c6f184$314ee930$540110ac@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:34:56 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This starts a two week working group last on http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt Please send your comments to the CCAMP mailing list by 12 midnight UK time on Monday 30th October Thanks, Adrian and Deborah Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:57:52 +0000 To: Tom Petch Cc: "Adrian Farrel" , ccamp@ops.ietf.org, mpls@lists.ietf.org Cc: swallow@cisco.com Subject: Re: [mpls] Fw: I-D ACTION:draft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-spec-00.txt From: George Swallow Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:55:24 -0400 Message-Id: <20061016215524.99686291C52@host-64-47-156-150.masergy.com> DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; l=549; t=1161035740; x=1161899740; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=sjdkim8002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=swallow@cisco.com; z=From:George=20Swallow=20 |Subject:Re=3A=20[mpls]=20Fw=3A=20I-D=20ACTION=3Adraft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-sp ec-00.txt=20; X=v=3Dcisco.com=3B=20h=3DBSf0QnyI+NsvPUBp+XL3Z0pm2lk=3D; b=bkWlC46WS8F4MpXQuUoxpX0DRb3Fqo+cRhKVAdqZHY/bDF2tSk4RPEvEYbVZomaknxFlOfTu GQ5Tkt56CyUh2WxoU/RDCwsIWWIlOrzsaSQDmduC4zCV21s35OgepEFb; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-8.cisco.com; header.From=swallow@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com verified; ); > I wonder why the IEEE-controlled OUI is used to identify an organisation. In > other WG, I see the IANA-controlled private.enterprises branch of the ISO naming > tree used. Either would do but I would like to see an explanation. I have no religion on this topic. If the consensus is IANA, that's fine by me. I just want a convenient way to dis-ambiguate! ...george ======================================================================== George Swallow Cisco Systems (978) 936-1398 1414 Massachusetts Avenue Boxborough, MA 01719 Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:21:22 +0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Response to your communication on Ethernet Traffic Parameters Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:19:01 -0500 Message-ID: <606FB133B98FEE42B71162BE99530B1D5ABC1E@USDALSMBS02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> Thread-Topic: Response to your communication on Ethernet Traffic Parameters Thread-Index: Acbwp51hcp2hcoCMQ7KSsC1inpoRVQAKfJQg From: "JONES Jim D" To: "Adrian Farrel" Cc: , "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" , "Bill Fenner" , "Ross Callon" Dear Adrian and Deborah, Thank you for this information. I will make sure this is communicated in our 4Q06 meetings taking place in Dallas this coming week. Best Regards, Jim Jones OIF Technical Committee Chair=20 -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20 Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:16 PM To: JONES Jim D Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS; Bill Fenner; Ross Callon Subject: Response to your communication on Ethernet Traffic Parameters Hi Jim, In August the OIF sent CCAMP a communication about the use of the Ethernet Traffic parameters described in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-pa rameters-00.txt The communication asked a specific question: "One concern was expressed during the discussion in our meeting: the proposed format contains a switching granularity subfield that defines whether port or frame granularity switching is used, and there were comments that it is not the granularity of switching that needs to be specified, but the portion of the frame that is considered in forwarding. These are the Ethernet layers defined by IEEE standards that the OIF is considering. For example, we are currently looking at both Ethernet Private Line and Ethernet Virtual Private Line. In the latter case, switching is performed based on the VLAN identifier value, however the frame is still what is switched. We believe the terminology used in the new Tspec format may warrant further consideration in CCAMP." We agree, when frame-based switching is being applied it is important for an implementation to know what constitutes the label within each received frame. Without this knowledge, it is (of course) impossible to correctly switch the frames. However, it is not the job of the traffic parameters (i.e. the TSpec) to convey this information. Label type information is conveyed in the Generalized Label Request object. Specifically, the switching type is used to indicate what type of switching is required, although in many cases the label type should be obvious from the context of the TE link. The CCAMP working group is open to the specification of values for inclusion in the Generalized Label Request to identify different Ethernet frame switching paradigms, but please note that there are currently no Ethernet frame switching types defined as acceptable by the IEEE. When the IEEE has defined suitable data plane profiles, the CCAMP working group will be happy to accept work that clarifies how signaling should be used. Regards, Adrian Farrel and Deborah Brungard CCAMP Working Group Co-Chairs Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:17:08 +0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Notification of work in the IETF CCAMP working group Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:14:48 -0500 Message-ID: <606FB133B98FEE42B71162BE99530B1D5ABC02@USDALSMBS02.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> Thread-Topic: Notification of work in the IETF CCAMP working group Thread-Index: AcbwmFtbagko8t9ARCuJMETlXg+vwwADrriw From: "JONES Jim D" To: "Adrian Farrel" Cc: , "Bill Fenner" , "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" , "Ross Callon" Dear Adrian and Deborah, Thank you for the timely update. I will bring these to the attention of the OIF membership at our 4Q06 meetings taking place in Dallas this coming week. Best Regards, Jim Jones OIF Technical Committee Chair -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20 Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:25 PM To: JONES Jim D Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org; Bill Fenner; Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS; Ross Callon Subject: Notification of work in the IETF CCAMP working group Dear Jim, We would like to take this opportunity to inform you of the progress of some=20 work items within the CCAMP working group of the IETF that may be of=20 interest and relevance to your members. A new RFC has been published. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4631.txt provides some small updates and=20 clarifications to the SNMP MIB module for the Link Management Protocol=20 (LMP). It obsoletes RFC 4327, the previous version of this MIB module.=20 Section 14 of the new RFC shows a list of the changes. The CCAMP working group continues to make good progress in many areas. Full=20 details of the work of CCAMP can be found at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ccamp-charter.html from where all of the=20 latest revisions of the various RFCs and Internet-Drafts can be freely=20 downloaded without charge. Four Internet-Drafts that may be of particular interest to your members. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-00. txt=20 is a relatively new work item that examines the requirements and procedures=20 for using GMPLS protocols to support Virtual Concatenation Groups across TDM=20 networks. We believe this may be of particular interest to you in support of=20 Ethernet services over TDM. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing- ospf-02.txt=20 describes extensions to the OSPF routing protocol to satisfy the ASON=20 routing requirements as set out in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4258.txt in=20 the light of the evaluation provided in=20 http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing- eval-03.txt=20 (both of which were written with considerable help from some of your=20 individual members). http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-pa rameters-00.txt=20 which we have brought to your attention before, presents a GMPLS=20 Sender_TSpec (and hence a Flowspec) for Ethernet Traffic Parameters as=20 described in MEF.10. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-rsvp-te-call- 01.txt=20 describes extensions to RSVP-TE for the establishment and management of=20 Calls in GMPLS networks, and for the association of LSPs (connections) with=20 those Calls. Regards, Adrian Farrel and Deborah Brungard=20 Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:17:00 +0000 Message-ID: <2d4d01c6f0a7$8c6ac510$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Jim Jones" Cc: , "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" , "Bill Fenner" , "Ross Callon" Subject: Response to your communication on Ethernet Traffic Parameters Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:16:13 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jim, In August the OIF sent CCAMP a communication about the use of the Ethernet Traffic parameters described in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-00.txt The communication asked a specific question: "One concern was expressed during the discussion in our meeting: the proposed format contains a switching granularity subfield that defines whether port or frame granularity switching is used, and there were comments that it is not the granularity of switching that needs to be specified, but the portion of the frame that is considered in forwarding. These are the Ethernet layers defined by IEEE standards that the OIF is considering. For example, we are currently looking at both Ethernet Private Line and Ethernet Virtual Private Line. In the latter case, switching is performed based on the VLAN identifier value, however the frame is still what is switched. We believe the terminology used in the new Tspec format may warrant further consideration in CCAMP." We agree, when frame-based switching is being applied it is important for an implementation to know what constitutes the label within each received frame. Without this knowledge, it is (of course) impossible to correctly switch the frames. However, it is not the job of the traffic parameters (i.e. the TSpec) to convey this information. Label type information is conveyed in the Generalized Label Request object. Specifically, the switching type is used to indicate what type of switching is required, although in many cases the label type should be obvious from the context of the TE link. The CCAMP working group is open to the specification of values for inclusion in the Generalized Label Request to identify different Ethernet frame switching paradigms, but please note that there are currently no Ethernet frame switching types defined as acceptable by the IEEE. When the IEEE has defined suitable data plane profiles, the CCAMP working group will be happy to accept work that clarifies how signaling should be used. Regards, Adrian Farrel and Deborah Brungard CCAMP Working Group Co-Chairs Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:29:03 +0000 Message-ID: <2cea01c6f098$454a72c0$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Jim Jones" Cc: , "Bill Fenner" , "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" , "Ross Callon" Subject: Notification of work in the IETF CCAMP working group Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:25:02 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Jim, We would like to take this opportunity to inform you of the progress of some work items within the CCAMP working group of the IETF that may be of interest and relevance to your members. A new RFC has been published. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4631.txt provides some small updates and clarifications to the SNMP MIB module for the Link Management Protocol (LMP). It obsoletes RFC 4327, the previous version of this MIB module. Section 14 of the new RFC shows a list of the changes. The CCAMP working group continues to make good progress in many areas. Full details of the work of CCAMP can be found at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ccamp-charter.html from where all of the latest revisions of the various RFCs and Internet-Drafts can be freely downloaded without charge. Four Internet-Drafts that may be of particular interest to your members. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-00.txt is a relatively new work item that examines the requirements and procedures for using GMPLS protocols to support Virtual Concatenation Groups across TDM networks. We believe this may be of particular interest to you in support of Ethernet services over TDM. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-02.txt describes extensions to the OSPF routing protocol to satisfy the ASON routing requirements as set out in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4258.txt in the light of the evaluation provided in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-eval-03.txt (both of which were written with considerable help from some of your individual members). http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters-00.txt which we have brought to your attention before, presents a GMPLS Sender_TSpec (and hence a Flowspec) for Ethernet Traffic Parameters as described in MEF.10. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-rsvp-te-call-01.txt describes extensions to RSVP-TE for the establishment and management of Calls in GMPLS networks, and for the association of LSPs (connections) with those Calls. Regards, Adrian Farrel and Deborah Brungard Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:10:53 +0000 Message-ID: <2c5301c6f084$ff738d30$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Liaison received form the ITU-T Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:08:33 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, We were copied on a liaison from ITU-T SG15 to the OIF discussing call and connection modification and deletion. You can see the liaison at https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/liaison_detail.cgi?detail_id=271 The text is included below. The liaison is for information only and we are not required to respond, but if anyone has anything they need to say... Adrian === Q14/15 thanks OIF for the liaison statement (oif2006.258.02, TD283/3-SG15-2006) on the effort to align the signalling procedure in G.7713.2, OIF UNI/ENNI, and IETF for connection deletion. We have tried to research the underlying rationale for the difference between G.7713.2 and RFC 3473 regarding this procedure. Note that G.7713.1, G.7713.2, and G.7713.3 were developed at the same time and it was a goal to maintain protocol behaviour consistency across the three. We think that one consideration might have been related to usage of a somewhat similar mechanism in previous ITU-T Q.931 signalling protocol to support a 3 message release sequence, where there is an initial message sent to notify the remote end that release is requested. However, in this procedure the initial message always results in release of the connection. As a result the A bit is not used in G.7713.x for setting a permanent administrative state. It might therefore be used by G.7713.2 in the Path/Resv message to initiate deletion from an intermediate node instead of using the Notify message (as described in section 7.3 of RFC3473) so as to save one extra message type (i.e., the Notify message type). In the management plane, prior to deleting (or performing maintenance on) a resource, it is a common practice to put the resource in the administrative "locked" state (equivalent to the administrative-down status). Our current thinking is that a similar feature in the control plane is worth consideration so as to maintain the same operational principle as in the management plane. Q14/15 agrees with OIF's desire to support maximal alignment among these documents. We would like to have a structured approach for the alignment effort. Note that the existing G.7713 does not have abstract messages in support of connection deletion from intermediate nodes and connection state modification. So the first step is to develop the abstract messages to support these functionalities. Once these new abstract messages are defined, corresponding RSVP protocol details can be added to G.7713.2. The impact of the G.7713 and G.7713.2 changes on G.7713.1 and G.7713.3 might need to be considered too. SG15/Q14 would like to collaborate with the OIF in the alignment effort. Here is a summary of required enhancements: - Connection Modification, currently for further study in G.7713 (SP19), would have to be defined. This would allow for the capability to change the administrative status of a connection without deleting it. Once the abstract message is defined, the RSVP messages in G.7713.2 could be modified to align with RFC3473 and proper use of the A-bit. - An abstract message for deletion from intermediate nodes would have to be defined in G.7713. This message would then be mapped to proper RSVP protocol details in line with RFC3473. Regarding the proposed solutions, we have the following comments: - For both proposals, there appears to be limitations in the backwards compatibility and it is not clear what the behaviour is when the old version (1.0) is surrounded by newer version (2.0). - oif2006.182.00 lacks a clear mapping of RSVP messages to abstract messages. - oif2006.232.00 seems to require provisioning/discovery of neighbour version for compatibility. - oif2006.232.00 introduces new abstract messages (Connection Modify Request/Connection Modify Indication/Connection Release Notify) that could be incorporated into G.7713 An electronic copy of this liaison statement is available at: ftp://ftp.itu.int/tsg15opticaltransport/COMMUNICATIONS/index.html Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:01:32 +0000 Message-ID: <2aed01c6efdb$e7454270$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , Cc: "George Swallow" Subject: Fw: I-D ACTION:draft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-spec-00.txt Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:56:57 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heads up on this I-D. We are proposing a backward-compatible way of conveying additional error information in RSVP. This will make it a lot easier for user-defined error codes to be signalled, and is extensible for the inclusion of error-specific details. Your comments would be welcomed. Thanks, Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-spec-00.txt >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > Title : User Defined Errors for RSVP > Author(s) : G. Swallow, A. Farrel > Filename : draft-swallow-rsvp-user-error-spec-00.txt > Pages : 8 > Date : 2006-10-13 > > > The Resource ReserVation Protocol (RSVP) defines an ERROR_SPEC object > for communicating errors. That object has a defined format that > permits the definition of 256 error codes. As RSVP has been > developed and extended, the convention has been to be conservative in > communicating errors. 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This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : RSVP-TE Extensions in support of End-to-End Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Recovery Author(s) : J. Lang, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-recovery-e2e-signaling-04.txt Pages : 36 Date : 2006-10-11 This document describes protocol specific procedures and extensions for Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Resource ReserVation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) signaling to support end-to-end Label Switched Path (LSP) recovery that denotes protection and restoration. A generic functional description of GMPLS recovery can be found in a companion document, RFC 4426. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-recovery-e2e-signaling-04.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Internet-Drafts Submission Cutoff Dates for the 67th IETF Meeting in San Diego, California, USA > > There are two (2) Internet-Draft cutoff dates for the 67th > IETF Meeting in San Diego, California, USA: > > October 16th: Cutoff Date for Initial (i.e., version -00) > Internet-Draft Submissions > > All initial Internet-Drafts (version -00) must be submitted by Monday, > October 16th at 9:00 AM ET. As always, all initial submissions with a > filename beginning with "draft-ietf" must be approved by the > appropriate WG Chair before they can be processed or announced. The > Secretariat would appreciate receiving WG Chair approval by Monday, > October 9th at 9:00 AM ET. > > October 23rd: Cutoff Date for Revised (i.e., version -01 and higher) > Internet-Draft Submissions > > All revised Internet-Drafts (version -01 and higher) must be submitted > by Monday, October 23rd at 9:00 AM ET. > > Initial and revised Internet-Drafts received after their respective > cutoff dates will not be made available in the Internet-Drafts > directory or announced until on or after Monday, November 6th at 9:00 > AM ET, when Internet-Draft posting resumes. Please do not wait until > the last minute to submit. > > Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. If you have any > questions or concerns, then please send a message to > internet-drafts@ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > FYI: The Internet-Draft cutoff dates as well as other significant dates > for the 67th IETF Meeting can be found at > http://www.ietf.org/meetings/cutoff_dates_67.html. > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > > > Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:11:06 +0000 Message-ID: <041601c6eb8a$e2dce760$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: CCAMP agenda for San Diego Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:08:28 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Deborah and I will be working on the agenda some time early next week. Please send us your requests. Recall that the purpose of the meeting is to have active and constructive debate, not to present your work. Everyone can read your drafts so there is no requirement to present them. You should be asking for an agenda slot if you feel that: - there is some point that has been discussed on the list that needs further debate - you have questions or issues that you need the working group to help you resolve - you have made a substantial change to a draft that you think people will have missed and might object to New work can also be considered for an agenda slot where you would expect to discover whether there is support for the work. Criteria include: - does the work address a charter milestone? - is the work in scope for the working group? - has the draft been discussed on the mailing list? Thanks, Adrian Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:49:08 +0000 Message-ID: <02eb01c6eb1a$8c6c1b50$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Cc: , Subject: Fw: I-D ACTION:draft-andersson-rtg-gmpls-change-04.txt Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 13:52:56 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, A new revision of the MPLS and GMPLS change process I-D is available. This process appears to be stable and we are thinking of taking to the IESG quite soon, so review it now or risk having to live with it. The changes in this revision are largely to clarify the use of the Preliminary Investigation phase. === Section 1.2 Change 2119 boiler plate to Although this document is not a protocol definition, the key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119 [RFC2119]. This usage is chosen to make the steps and procedures completely clear. === Section 2.3 final paragraph ADD It should be noted that the first stage in the change process is an optional Preliminary Investigation (see Section 4.2.1). This stage is explicitly included to allow external organizations to discuss requirements and proposed uses of the (G)MPLS technologies without the need to first develop Internet-Drafts, and builds on existing liaison processes where they exist. === Section 2.4 ADD o Preliminary Investigation An optional preliminary phase that may be used to exchange views on a proposed requirement and usage of the (G)MPLS technologies without going to the effort of writing an Internet-Draft. This phase may be particularly useful to SDOs that have already invested heavily in documenting a problem statement, or may be used by anyone who wishes to hold discussions on the use of (G)MPLS. === Section 3 ADD para 2 Whenever there is reason to believe that a particular problem may be solved by use of or extensions to the (G)MPLS protocols, a preliminary investigation phase may be used to discuss the requirements with the IETF. This may lead to an understanding that the problem is already solved, is outside the scope of the IETF, or requires more investigation possibly leading to changes to the (G)MPLS protocols. === Section 4.2.1 para 2 ADD In fact, although this step is described as lightweight because no Internet-Draft is required and because the nature of the step is discursive, it may be the case that this step involves considerable technical discussions and may, in fact, be an extensive, substantive exchange of opinions. === Section 4.2.1 para 3 s/may/MAY/ === Section 4.2.1 final para ADD A possible outcome of this preliminary invsetigation is that the requirements and problem are understood, but agreed to be out of scope for the IETF. Alternatively it may be that the problem can be solved with existing protocols. === Section 5.2 bullet 1 ADD (see Section 4.2.1) === Section 5.2 bullet 2 ADD (see Section 4.2.1) === Section 8 para 4 s/may/MAY/ === ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:50 PM Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-andersson-rtg-gmpls-change-04.txt >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > Title : Change Process for Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) and > Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Protocols and Procedures > Author(s) : L. Andersson, A. Farrel > Filename : draft-andersson-rtg-gmpls-change-04.txt > Pages : 22 > Date : 2006-10-4 > > The issues surrounding the extensibility of IETF protocols have been > widely debated. These issues include when it is reasonable to > extend IETF protocols with little or no review, and when extensions > or variations need to be reviewed by the larger IETF community. > Experience with IETF protocols has shown that extensibility of > protocols without early IETF review can cause problems. > > The Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) and Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) > suites of protocols have become popular for a number of applications > and deployment scenarios. One result of this popularity is a large > number of suggestions for modifications and extensions. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-andersson-rtg-gmpls-change-04.txt > > To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of > the message. > You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > to change your subscription settings. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Different MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:52:27 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt Message-Id: Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:50:02 -0400 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : IGP Routing Protocol Extensions for Discovery of Traffic Engineering Node Capabilities Author(s) : J. Vasseur, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-02.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2006-10-6 It is highly desired in several cases, to take into account Traffic Engineering (TE) node capabilities during Multi Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Traffic Engineered Label Switched Path (TE-LSP) selection, such as for instance the capability to act as a branch Label Switching Router (LSR) of a Point-To-MultiPoint (P2MP) LSP. This requires advertising these capabilities within the Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP). For that purpose, this document specifies Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) and Intermediate System-Intermediate System (IS-IS) traffic engineering extensions for the advertisement of control plane and data plane traffic engineering node capabilities. 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This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : GMPLS Based Segment Recovery Author(s) : L. Berger, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-segment-recovery-03.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2006-10-6 This document describes protocol specific procedures for GMPLS (Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching) RSVP-TE (Resource ReserVation Protocol - Traffic Engineering) signaling extensions to support label switched path (LSP) segment protection and restoration. These extensions are intended to complement and be consistent with the Extensions for End-to-End GMPLS-based Recovery. Implications and interactions with Fast Reroute are also addressed. This document also updates the handling of Notify_Request objects. 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------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C6E8A3.42B74C60-- Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:52:11 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ops.ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-02.txt Message-Id: Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:50:01 -0400 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : OSPFv2 Routing Protocols Extensions for ASON Routing Author(s) : D. Papadimitriou Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-02.txt Pages : 0 Date : 2006-10-5 The Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) suite of protocols has been defined to control different switching technologies as well as different applications. These include support for requesting TDM connections including SONET/SDH and Optical Transport Networks (OTNs). This document provides the extensions of the OSPFv2 Link State Routing Protocol to meet the routing requirements for an Automatically Switched Optical Network (ASON) as defined by ITU-T. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-02.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-02.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-02.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-5105335.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-02.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-02.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-10-5105335.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:18:55 +0000 Message-ID: <067601c6e603$77e14460$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Fw: 67th IETF - DRAFT Meeting Agenda Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:15:39 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The early, draft, unconfirmed agenda for San Diego has CCAMP on Monday morning at 9am. Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "IETF Agenda" To: "Working Group Chairs" Cc: ; Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:03 AM Subject: 67th IETF - DRAFT Meeting Agenda > The DRAFT agenda for the 67th IETF Meeting can be found at: > http://www.ietf.org/meetings/67-agenda.txt > > Please send comments to agenda@ietf.org > > Upcoming Cutoff Dates: > October 11, Wednesday - Cutoff date for requests to reschedule Working > Group and BOF meetings 09:00 ET (13:00 UTC/GMT) > October 16, Monday - Final agenda to be published. Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:17:57 +0000 Message-ID: <060401c6e574$feb54f20$0a23fea9@your029b8cecfe> Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 17:16:39 +0100 Organization: Old Dog Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dimitri, I understand your concern about over-engineering. There is a tendency for "protocol engineers" to sit and look for corner cases in the protocol that they might be able to write specifications for. It might be more useful if they wrote implementations and tested the current protocols. But, I don't think Dan is guilty. His draft proposes no protocol extensions and no new procedures. In fact, it is a clarification that no new protocol elements are required - the existing work already covers all cases without any further work being necessary. I think this is a useful thing to do, but not something I would expect to spend a lot of CCAMP cycles on. Perhaps most useful would be to have a review from the authors of the original Graceful Restart draft to confirm that the procedures have been correctly interpreted and applied. As to whether this is a common problem, that might be a question for software stack implementers, chip manufacturers, and power supply vendors. But clearly we thought it was possible for a single control plane instance to fail. A ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Dan Li" Cc: "ccamp" ; "Olufemi Komolafe" ; ; Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > dan - > > ok - do we have a sense of the probability of multiple independent nodes > failures - is that a common failure scenario operators are facing (and not > a marginal case) ? > > or are we addressing common bugs affecting common equipment - in this case > this topics is outside scope of CCAMP ? > > pls read between the lines i start to be seriously concerned by GMPLS > protocol over-engineering - if the set currently available technique is > still not enough for base deployment then it means the issue(s) is/are > sitting somewhere else - > > thanks, > - d. > > > > > Dan Li > 30/09/2006 07:42 > > To: Dimitri PAPADIMITRIOU/BE/ALCATEL@ALCATEL > cc: ccamp , Olufemi Komolafe > , gjhhit@huawei.com, owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org > Subject: Re: Comments on > draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > > > Hi Dimitri, > > There is nothing wrong with the GR draft, the mechanism described in that > draft doesn't need any remedial patch, and it is applied to this draft. > The reason we started working on this draft is try to clarify the control > plane procedures for a GMPLS network when there are multiple node > failures, and describes how full control plane state can be recovered > depending on the order in which the nodes restart. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Dan Li" > Cc: "ccamp" ; "Olufemi Komolafe" ; > ; > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:50 AM > Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > > >> hi dan >> >> yes i have a very practical issue - the document would then deal with >> remedial to remedial - ... but do we have any feedback on initial >> remedials ? >> >> thanks, >> - d. >> >> >> >> >> >> Dan Li >> Sent by: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org >> 25/09/2006 09:27 >> >> To: Olufemi Komolafe , gjhhit@huawei.com >> cc: ccamp >> Subject: Re: Comments on >> draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, >> >> >> Hi Femi, >> >> Thanks for your valuable suggestion! >> >> The intention for this draft is clarify the procedures for multi-nodes >> restart, so five typical scenarios have been listed in the draft, I > think >> most of the failed cases are covered by these five scenarios. As you > have >> pointed out, these scenarios may be raised due to multiple nodes fail, > or >> a subsequent control channel failure. Yes, you're right! It may be more >> generic to classify these scenarios, such as: "What should happen if a >> restarting node fails to get a RecoveryPath/Path message from its >> downstream/upstream neighbor?", but I think it may be more clear to >> address the specific cases in the draft at least during the initial > stage. >> >> Any comments are very welcome! >> >> Best regards, >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Olufemi Komolafe >> To: danli@huawei.com ; gjhhit@huawei.com >> Cc: ccamp >> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:45 PM >> Subject: RE: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, >> >> >> Hi, >> >> While reading this draft it occurred to me that perhaps it might be more > >> useful to approach this topic from the perspective of "What can go wrong > >> during graceful restart, what are the consequences and how can it be >> fixed?" rather than focusing on the narrower topic of multiple >> simultaneous nodal faults. >> >> For example, Scenario 1 in the draft may be interpreted as "What should >> happen if a (non-ingress) restarting node fails to get a RecoveryPath >> message from its downstream neighbour?", Scenario 2 is "What should > happen >> if a (non-ingress) restarting node fails to get a Path message from its >> upstream neighbour?" and so on. Whether each of these scenarios arises >> due to multiple simultaneous nodal faults (as in the draft) or any other > >> reason (e.g. a subsequent control channel failure, restarting node being > >> inundated with messages etc.) is, in my opinion, secondary. I think the > >> key thing is to identify the potential problems and suggest appropriate >> remedial actions, where the authors think existing documentation is >> insufficient, rather than focusing on 5 different permutations of > multiple >> node graceful restart. >> >> Regards, >> Femi >> >> >> >> >> >> From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] On > Behalf >> Of Zafar Ali (zali) >> Sent: 10 July 2006 04:04 >> To: danli@huawei.com; gjhhit@huawei.com >> Cc: ccamp >> Subject: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, >> >> Dear Authors, >> >> This is Deja-vu to me.... >> >> Draft draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-restart-ext-05.txt actually had a section on > >> multiple node restart case and was rejected by the WG as addressing >> multiple node restart case is NOT a goal (suffers from the law of >> diminishing return). In other words the following statement in the ID- >> >> "[GR-EXT] also extends the Hello message to exchange information > about >> the ability to support the RecoveryPath message. >> The examples and procedures in [GR-EXT] focus on the description of a > >> single node restart when adjacent network nodes are operative. >> Although the procedures are equally applicable to multi-node > restarts, >> no detailed explanation is provided." >> >> is not accurate. Please see section 4 on the earlier version of the >> [GR-EXT], >> > http://www.faqs.org/ftp/pub/internet-drafts/draft-rahman-ccamp-rsvp-restart-extensions-00.txt > >> . >> >> Thanks >> >> Regards... Zafar >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Envelope-to: ccamp-data@psg.com Delivery-date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 14:07:53 +0000 To: Dan Li Cc: ccamp , Olufemi Komolafe , gjhhit@huawei.com, owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:05:19 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" dan - ok - do we have a sense of the probability of multiple independent nodes failures - is that a common failure scenario operators are facing (and not a marginal case) ? or are we addressing common bugs affecting common equipment - in this case this topics is outside scope of CCAMP ? pls read between the lines i start to be seriously concerned by GMPLS protocol over-engineering - if the set currently available technique is still not enough for base deployment then it means the issue(s) is/are sitting somewhere else - thanks, - d. Dan Li 30/09/2006 07:42 To: Dimitri PAPADIMITRIOU/BE/ALCATEL@ALCATEL cc: ccamp , Olufemi Komolafe , gjhhit@huawei.com, owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, Hi Dimitri, There is nothing wrong with the GR draft, the mechanism described in that draft doesn't need any remedial patch, and it is applied to this draft. The reason we started working on this draft is try to clarify the control plane procedures for a GMPLS network when there are multiple node failures, and describes how full control plane state can be recovered depending on the order in which the nodes restart. Thanks, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Dan Li" Cc: "ccamp" ; "Olufemi Komolafe" ; ; Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:50 AM Subject: Re: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > hi dan > > yes i have a very practical issue - the document would then deal with > remedial to remedial - ... but do we have any feedback on initial > remedials ? > > thanks, > - d. > > > > > > Dan Li > Sent by: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org > 25/09/2006 09:27 > > To: Olufemi Komolafe , gjhhit@huawei.com > cc: ccamp > Subject: Re: Comments on > draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > > > Hi Femi, > > Thanks for your valuable suggestion! > > The intention for this draft is clarify the procedures for multi-nodes > restart, so five typical scenarios have been listed in the draft, I think > most of the failed cases are covered by these five scenarios. As you have > pointed out, these scenarios may be raised due to multiple nodes fail, or > a subsequent control channel failure. Yes, you're right! It may be more > generic to classify these scenarios, such as: "What should happen if a > restarting node fails to get a RecoveryPath/Path message from its > downstream/upstream neighbor?", but I think it may be more clear to > address the specific cases in the draft at least during the initial stage. > > Any comments are very welcome! > > Best regards, > > Dan > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Olufemi Komolafe > To: danli@huawei.com ; gjhhit@huawei.com > Cc: ccamp > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:45 PM > Subject: RE: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > > > Hi, > > While reading this draft it occurred to me that perhaps it might be more > useful to approach this topic from the perspective of "What can go wrong > during graceful restart, what are the consequences and how can it be > fixed?" rather than focusing on the narrower topic of multiple > simultaneous nodal faults. > > For example, Scenario 1 in the draft may be interpreted as "What should > happen if a (non-ingress) restarting node fails to get a RecoveryPath > message from its downstream neighbour?", Scenario 2 is "What should happen > if a (non-ingress) restarting node fails to get a Path message from its > upstream neighbour?" and so on. Whether each of these scenarios arises > due to multiple simultaneous nodal faults (as in the draft) or any other > reason (e.g. a subsequent control channel failure, restarting node being > inundated with messages etc.) is, in my opinion, secondary. I think the > key thing is to identify the potential problems and suggest appropriate > remedial actions, where the authors think existing documentation is > insufficient, rather than focusing on 5 different permutations of multiple > node graceful restart. > > Regards, > Femi > > > > > > From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Zafar Ali (zali) > Sent: 10 July 2006 04:04 > To: danli@huawei.com; gjhhit@huawei.com > Cc: ccamp > Subject: Comments on draft-li-ccamp-multinodes-gr-proc-00.txt, > > Dear Authors, > > This is Deja-vu to me.... > > Draft draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-restart-ext-05.txt actually had a section on > multiple node restart case and was rejected by the WG as addressing > multiple node restart case is NOT a goal (suffers from the law of > diminishing return). In other words the following statement in the ID- > > "[GR-EXT] also extends the Hello message to exchange information about > the ability to support the RecoveryPath message. > The examples and procedures in [GR-EXT] focus on the description of a > single node restart when adjacent network nodes are operative. > Although the procedures are equally applicable to multi-node restarts, > no detailed explanation is provided." > > is not accurate. Please see section 4 on the earlier version of the > [GR-EXT], > http://www.faqs.org/ftp/pub/internet-drafts/draft-rahman-ccamp-rsvp-restart-extensions-00.txt > . > > Thanks > > Regards... Zafar > > > > > >