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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Sun Dec 6 05:19:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006D33A67E3 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gjEfst5wLHgc for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94A03A6897 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B62E18214 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2CBE240D3 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627DC19DF3B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E856A19DF24 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rishyang@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-pz0-f179.google.com (mail-pz0-f179.google.com [209.85.222.179]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9so3351754pzk.16 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:19:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.237.30 with SMTP id k30mr8878077wah.102.1260105545552; Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:19:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:19:05 +0800 Message-ID: <8556013e0912060519h345209d0r8790188d1c33a40a@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard To: bertietf@bwijnen.net Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1665666264==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com --===============1665666264== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64b95e06c123d047a0f2fef --0016e64b95e06c123d047a0f2fef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Bert: Thanks for your comments. Most comments are clear to me, while some of them need your guidance. Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in details. Please check my comments identified by [Richard]. > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" > does not have a > consistent indexing sche > me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only > one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry [Richard] I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and let me know how to fix it (if possiable). > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row > "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does > not have a consistent ind > exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can > have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry [Richard] Same as the above one. > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX INTEGER { > limited(0), > fullAndLimited(1) > } > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > > Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, unless > there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the DESCRIPTION > clause). > So... what is the reason? > > Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType > And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType > And possibly others!! pls check. [Richard] The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. So how about the description updated in the following way? capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX INTEGER { limited(0), fullAndLimited(1) } MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) bits, as defined in [RFC3168]. The following enumerated values are supported: limited(0) - Limited ECN support fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB object follow the same rule." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX Counter32 > MAX-ACCESS read-only > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at the > request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change in > configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit CAPWAP > protocol reset request. A value of 65535 implies that this > information is not available on the WTP." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415. " > ::= { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 } > > I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like the > 65535) > to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the > semantics for > the > Counter32 SYNTAX. > > Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount > and possibly others, pls check and make sure. [Richard] It follows the RFC5415. How about update the text with: According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this information is not available on the WTP. > In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that > some (or all) > of > the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! [Richard] In fact, I don't understand why it is required? The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no special requirement to the IF-MIB. Please let me know what should be done here? Regards Richard --0016e64b95e06c123d047a0f2fef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Bert:
=A0
Thanks for your comments.=A0 Most comments are clear to me,
while some of them need your guidance.
Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in details.
Please check my comments identified by [Richard].

> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry&qu= ot;
> does not have a
> consistent indexing sche
> me - c= annot specify an index item from additional "base row"
> ca= pwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only
> one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry

[Richard]
I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and= let me know
how to fix it (if possiable).

> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row
> "capwapBaseRadioE= ventsStatsEntry" does
> not have a consistent ind
> exing = scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base
row&quo= t;
> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
> have only one "base row&quo= t; which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry

[Richard]
=A0Same as the above one.


> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE
>=A0= =A0=A0=A0 SYNTAX=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 INTEGER {
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 limited(0),
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 fullAndLimited(1)
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 }
>=A0=A0=A0=A0 MAX-ACCESS=A0 read-cre= ate
>=A0=A0=A0=A0 STATUS=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 current
>
> Normally we = recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero,
unless
> there= is a good reason (which we then like to see in the DESCRIPTION
> cla= use).
> So... what is the reason?
>
> Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
> And for:= capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
> And possibly others!! pls = check.
[Richard]
The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero.
So how ab= out the description updated in the following way?
capwapBaseWtpProfileWt= pEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE
=A0=A0=A0 SYNTAX=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 INTEGER {=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 limited(0),=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 fullAndLimited(1)=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 }=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0 MAX-ACCESS=A0 read-create=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0 STATUS=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 current=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0 DESCRIPTION=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Represents the support for the Ex= plicit Congestion Notification=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 (ECN) bits, as defined in [RFC3168].=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 The following enum= erated values are supported:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = limited(0)=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 - Limited ECN support=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN sup= port
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts wi= th zero, the MIB
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 object follow the same rule.&= quot;=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
=A0=A0=A0 REFERENCE=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specificatio= n, RFC 5415."=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0

> capwapBaseWt= pEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE
>=A0=A0=A0=A0 SYNTAX=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= Counter32
>=A0=A0=A0=A0 MAX-ACCESS=A0 read-only
>=A0=A0=A0=A0 STATUS=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 current
>=A0=A0=A0=A0 DESCRIPT= ION
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 "Represents the number of reboots = that have occurred at the
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 request of a C= APWAP protocol message, such as a change in
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0 configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit CAPWAP
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 protocol reset request.=A0 A value of 65535= implies that this
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 information is not av= ailable on the WTP."
>=A0=A0=A0=A0 REFERENCE
>=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 54= 15.
"
>=A0=A0=A0=A0 ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 }
>= ;
> I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (lik= e
the
> 65535)
> to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is im= possible given the
> semantics for
> the
> Counter32 SYNTAX.
>
> Sa= me for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount
> and possibly others, pl= s check and make sure.

[Richard]
It follows the RFC5415.
How about update the text = with:
According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this
i= nformation is not available on the WTP.

> In the MODULE-COMPLIANC= E, I would have expected at least that
> some (or all)
> of
> the IF-MIB module would also be manda= tory???!!!

[Richard]
In fact, I don't understand why it is required?
The ifGeneralIn= formationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and
The CAPWAP-BASE-MI= B relies on the IF-MIB. There are no
special requirement to the IF-MIB.<= br> Please let me know what should be done here?
=A0
Regards
Richard
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Most comments are clear to me, while some of them need your guidance. Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in details. Please check my comments identified by [Richard]. > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" > does not have a > consistent indexing sche > me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only > one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry [Richard] I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and let me know=20 how to fix it (if possiable).=20 The SMICng syntax checker is VERY strict on these things. If you are 100% sure you want to index as you do, then it may be OK. I advise to check with your co-editor/author David Perkins, who is also the author of SMICng!!!!! > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row > "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does > not have a consistent ind > exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can > have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry [Richard] Same as the above one. same as above > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX INTEGER { > limited(0), > fullAndLimited(1) > } > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > > Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, unless > there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the DESCRIPTION > clause). > So... what is the reason? > > Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType > And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType > And possibly others!! pls check. I do no tfind the arguments strong, but I can live with it [Richard] The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. So how about the description updated in the following way? capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX INTEGER { =20 limited(0), =20 fullAndLimited(1) = =20 } =20 MAX-ACCESS read-create =20 STATUS current =20 DESCRIPTION =20 "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion = Notification =20 (ECN) bits, as defined in [RFC3168]. = =20 The following enumerated values are supported: = =20 limited(0) - Limited ECN support = =20 fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB=20 object follow the same rule." =20 REFERENCE =20 "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." = =20 > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX Counter32 > MAX-ACCESS read-only > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at the > request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change in > configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit CAPWAP > protocol reset request. A value of 65535 implies that this > information is not available on the WTP." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415. " > ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 } > > I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like the > 65535) > to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the > semantics for > the > Counter32 SYNTAX. > NOPE, not acceptable. A Counter cannot have special values!!!! See the descritpion of Counter32 in RFC2578! > Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount > and possibly others, pls check and make sure. [Richard] It follows the RFC5415. How about update the text with: According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this information is not available on the WTP. Nope, you CANNOT use a Counter32 for that, see RFC2578 > In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that > some (or all) > of > the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! [Richard] In fact, I don't understand why it is required? The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no special requirement to the IF-MIB. Please let me know what should be done here? I could try to work it out for you...=20 However, I am sure that you co-author, co-editor David Perkins knows = what needs to be done! Bert Regards Richard ------=_NextPart_000_23BC_01CA76CC.59661A30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Richard=20
Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org ; capwap@frascone.com
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 = 2:19=20 PM
Subject: Please check my = (Richard)=20 comments, thanks

Hi, Bert:
 
Thanks for your comments.  Most comments are clear to = me,
while some of them need your guidance.
Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in = details.
Please check my comments identified by [Richard].

> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row = "capwapBaseStationEntry"
>=20 does not have a
> consistent indexing sche
> me - cannot = specify=20 an index item from additional "base row"
> capwapBaseWtpEntry, = since can=20 have only
> one "base row" which is = capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry

[Richard]
I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more = and let me=20 know
how to fix it (if possiable).

 

The SMICng syntax checker is VERY = strict on=20 these things.
If you are 100% sure you want to = index as you=20 do, then it may be OK.
I advise to check with your = co-editor/author=20 David Perkins, who is
also the author of = SMICng!!!!!
 

> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row
>=20 "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does
> not have a consistent=20 ind
> exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from = additional=20 "base
row"
> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
> have only = one=20 "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry

[Richard]
 Same as the above one.

 
same as above

> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport=20 OBJECT-TYPE
>    =20 SYNTAX      INTEGER=20 = {
>          &nbs= p;       =20 = limited(0),
>         =          =20 = fullAndLimited(1)
>        =         =20 }
>     MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
>    =20 STATUS      current
>
> Normally = we=20 recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero,
unless
> = there is=20 a good reason (which we then like to see in the DESCRIPTION
>=20 clause).
> So... what is the reason?
>
> Same = question for:=20 capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
> And for:=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
> And possibly others!! = pls=20 check.
I do no tfind the arguments strong, = but I can=20 live with it
 
 
[Richard]
The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero.
So = how about=20 the description updated in the following=20 way?
capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport = OBJECT-TYPE
   =20 SYNTAX      INTEGER=20 = {            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;   =20 =
           &nb= sp;     =20 = limited(0),          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;     =20 =
           &nb= sp;     =20 = fullAndLimited(1)         &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;      =20 =
           &nb= sp;   =20 = }            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;   =20
    MAX-ACCESS =20 = read-create          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;     =20
    STATUS     =20 = current           =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;    =20
   =20 = DESCRIPTION          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;      =20
        "Represents the support = for the=20 Explicit Congestion=20 = Notification          &= nbsp;=20
         (ECN) bits, as = defined in=20 = [RFC3168].          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;   =20
         The following = enumerated=20 values are=20 = supported:          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;     =20
          =20 limited(0)        - Limited ECN=20 = support           =             &= nbsp;         =20
          =20 fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN=20 support
         Since the=20 enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB=20
         object follow the = same=20 = rule."           &= nbsp;           =20
   =20 = REFERENCE          &nbs= p;            = ;            =      =20
        "Section 4.6.25. of = CAPWAP=20 Protocol Specification, RFC=20 5415."  
        =

>=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount = OBJECT-TYPE
>    =20 SYNTAX      = Counter32
>    =20 MAX-ACCESS  read-only
>    =20 STATUS      = current
>    =20 DESCRIPTION
>        =20 "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at=20 the
>          = request of a=20 CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change=20 in
>          = configuration=20 that requires a reboot or an explicit=20 CAPWAP
>          = protocol=20 reset request.  A value of 65535 implies that=20 this
>          = information=20 is not available on the WTP."
>    =20 REFERENCE
>         = "Section=20 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC=20 5415.
"
>     ::=3D { = capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry=20 2 }
>
> I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows = any=20 value (like
the
> 65535)
> to have a specific meaning = !!!!!=20 This is impossible given the
> semantics for
> the
> = Counter32 SYNTAX.
>
 
NOPE, not acceptable. A Counter = cannot have=20 special values!!!!
See the descritpion of Counter32 in=20 RFC2578!

> Same for:=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount
> and possibly others, pls = check and=20 make sure.

[Richard]
It follows the RFC5415.
How about update the = text=20 with:
According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that=20 this
information is not available on the = WTP.
Nope, you CANNOT use a Counter32 for = that, see=20 RFC2578

> In the=20 MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that
> some = (or=20 all)
> of
> the IF-MIB module would also be = mandatory???!!!

[Richard]
In fact, I don't understand why it is required?
The=20 ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, = and
The=20 CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no
special = requirement to=20 the IF-MIB.
Please let me know what should be done here?
 
 
I could try to work it out for = you...=20
However, I am sure that you = co-author, co-editor=20 David Perkins knows what needs
to be done!
 
Bert
 
Regards
Richard

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A value of 65535 implies that this > information is not available on the WTP." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415. " > ::= { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 } > > I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like the > 65535) > to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the > semantics for > the > Counter32 SYNTAX. > NOPE, not acceptable. A Counter cannot have special values!!!! See the descritpion of Counter32 in RFC2578! dbh: a MIB Counter32 cannot have special values like this. if the WTP doesn't have the information, then the implementation should simply not support the MIB object. (and I suppose, not be compliant to the MIB) The SNMP application can convert the SNMP error code that the object is not supported into the 65535 value for the protocol counter. > In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that > some (or all) > of > the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! [Richard] In fact, I don't understand why it is required? The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no special requirement to the IF-MIB. Please let me know what should be done here? I could try to work it out for you... However, I am sure that you co-author, co-editor David Perkins knows what needs to be done! dbh: I recommend you move Dave Perkins' name to the acknowledgement section since you have totally rewritten this MIB since David worked on it. dbh: I recommend you ask Dan Romascanu for a MIB Technical Advisor Bert Regards Richard ------=_NextPart_000_13F5_01CA76A6.D6A53380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Richard,
 
> capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount=20 OBJECT-TYPE
>    =20 SYNTAX      = Counter32
>    =20 MAX-ACCESS  read-only
>    =20 STATUS      = current
>    =20 DESCRIPTION
>        =20 "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at=20 the
>          = request of a=20 CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change=20 in
>          = configuration=20 that requires a reboot or an explicit=20 CAPWAP
>          = protocol=20 reset request.  A value of 65535 implies that=20 this
>          = information=20 is not available on the WTP."
>    =20 REFERENCE
>         = "Section=20 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC=20 5415.
"
>     ::=3D { = capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry=20 2 }
>
> I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows = any=20 value (like
the
> 65535)
> to have a specific meaning = !!!!!=20 This is impossible given the
> semantics for
> the
> = Counter32 SYNTAX.
>
 
NOPE, not acceptable. A Counter = cannot have=20 special values!!!!
See the descritpion of = Counter32 in=20 RFC2578! 
 
dbh: a MIB Counter32 cannot have special values like=20 this.
if the WTP doesn't have the information, = then the=20 implementation should simply not support the MIB=20 object.
(and I suppose, not be compliant to the=20 MIB)
The SNMP application can convert the SNMP = error code=20 that the object is not supported into the 65535 value for the protocol = counter.
 
> In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least=20 that
> some (or all)
> of
> the IF-MIB module would = also be=20 mandatory???!!!

[Richard]
In fact, I don't understand why it is required?
The=20 ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, = and
The=20 CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no
special = requirement to=20 the IF-MIB.
Please let me know what should be done = here?
 
 
I could try to work it out for = you...=20
However, I am sure that you = co-author,=20 co-editor David Perkins knows what needs
to be done! 
 
dbh: I recommend you move Dave Perkins' name to the = acknowledgement=20 section since you have totally rewritten this MIB since David worked = on=20 it.
dbh: I recommend you ask Dan Romascanu for a MIB = Technical=20 Advisor 
 
Bert
 
Regards
Richard

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To: "'Bert (IETF) Wijnen'" Message-id: <004301ca771f$60c95820$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on h3cmta02-ds/h3c(Release 8.5FP1|June 15, 2009) at 2009-12-07 17:28:22, Serialize by Router on h3cmta02-ds/h3c(Release 8.5FP1|June 15, 2009) at 2009-12-07 17:28:22, Serialize complete at 2009-12-07 17:28:22 Thread-index: Acp3GpvJH/gSqUWCR06LnGw+k6XjFAAA/Nkw Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] Could we close the counter32 issue by this way? 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Thread-Index: Acp3OS3g0qcFV95MQp6n7AECki0m1wAAOihQAAHahkA= References: <004301ca771f$60c95820$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com><4B1CF57C.3050102@bwijnen.net> <144801ca773b$b7738ee0$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "David Harrington" , "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" , "young" Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] [MIB-DOCTORS] Could we close the counter32 issue bythis way? 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Thread-Index: Acp3OS3g0qcFV95MQp6n7AECki0m1wAAOihQAAHahkAAAFHRwAAAhymw References: <004301ca771f$60c95820$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com><4B1CF57C.3050102@bwijnen.net> <144801ca773b$b7738ee0$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> <145501ca7744$2f53e830$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "David Harrington" , "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" , "young" Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] [MIB-DOCTORS] Could we close the counter32 issue bythis way? 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Thread-Index: Acp3OS3g0qcFV95MQp6n7AECki0m1wAAOihQAAHahkAAAFHRwAAAhymwAACNJ7AAABXRcA== References: <004301ca771f$60c95820$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com><4B1CF57C.3050102@bwijnen.net> <144801ca773b$b7738ee0$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> <145501ca7744$2f53e830$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> <145601ca7747$5ba12030$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "David Harrington" , "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" , "young" Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] [MIB-DOCTORS] Could we close the counter32 issue bythis way? X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Of course > -----Original Message----- > From: David Harrington [mailto:ietfdbh@comcast.net] > > I assume the following was a typo: > s/the agent will instantiate the object/the agent will not > instantiate the object/ _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 7 06:17:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F603A6A46 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:17:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.703, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Thow6HEixsj0 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C643A3A6A44 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20826E182A1 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE270E240D3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:16:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE6A19E929 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:16:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B0C19E8F7 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:16:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dromasca@avaya.com whitelisted) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 06:16:46 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,355,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="193000072" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erhlab.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.35]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 09:16:45 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.15]) by p-us1-erhlab-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2009 09:16:04 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:15:43 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [MIB-DOCTORS] [Capwap] Could we close the counter32 issue bythis way? Thread-Index: Acp3OS3g0qcFV95MQp6n7AECki0m1wAAOihQAAHahkAAAFHRwAAAhymwAACNJ7AAABXRcAAAC8nQ References: <004301ca771f$60c95820$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com><4B1CF57C.3050102@bwijnen.net> <144801ca773b$b7738ee0$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> <145501ca7744$2f53e830$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> <145601ca7747$5ba12030$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , "David Harrington" , "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" , "young" Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] [MIB-DOCTORS] Could we close the counter32 issue bythis way? 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------_=_NextPart_001_01CA7774.298A0B34-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 7 11:34:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E1E3A6817 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:34:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.809, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lbo8ZVoA3Whb for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:34:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC633A67F6 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:34:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E763E18146 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101ECE240D3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83071CD490 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:16:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0ECB1CD481 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:16:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:16:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (demetrius2.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.47]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1CEC006D; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:16:21 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius2.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0XCKSHFAwDEL; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:16:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7661FC006C; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:16:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1BCE6EE5FD9; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:16:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:16:16 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: young Message-ID: <20091207181616.GA3248@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: young , "bertietf@bwijnen.net" , "mib-doctors@ietf.org" , "capwap@frascone.com" References: <003001ca7712$12022e90$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003001ca7712$12022e90$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:34:07 -0800 Cc: "mib-doctors@ietf.org" , "capwap@frascone.com" , "bertietf@bwijnen.net" Subject: Re: [Capwap] [MIB-DOCTORS] Discuss the counter32 issue in the MIBs X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 08:51:22AM +0100, young wrote: > I checked the RFC2578, it says "Counters have no defined "initial" value, > and thus, a single value of a Counter has (in general) no information > content. " > RFC4181 talks about NOT OK with "reset to zero or to any other specific > value". > Since, it is " in general " with RFC2578, could > We say " According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this > information is not available on the WTP "? > If it is not ok, > Maybe the optional method is to: > Add another two flag objects in the CapwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry to > indicate > whether the information for capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount or > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount is available or not on the WTP. > The description of capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount and > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount would not talk about " a value of 65535 > implies that this information is not available on the WTP " any more. > Kindly let me know your opionion. > > Regards > Richard > > -----????????----- > ??????: capwap-request@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com] > ????????: 2009??12??7?? 6:33 > ??????: capwap@frascone.com > ????: Capwap Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3 > > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > capwap@frascone.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > capwap-request@frascone.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > capwap-owner@frascone.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks (Richard) > 2. Re: Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > (Bert Wijnen (IETF)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:19:05 +0800 > From: Richard > Subject: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > To: bertietf@bwijnen.net > Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com > Message-ID: > <8556013e0912060519h345209d0r8790188d1c33a40a@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, Bert: > > Thanks for your comments. Most comments are clear to me, > while some of them need your guidance. > Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in details. > Please check my comments identified by [Richard]. > > > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" > > does not have a > > consistent indexing sche > > me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" > > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only > > one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry > > [Richard] > I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and let me know > how to fix it (if possiable). If a Counter has the special value then it is ambiguous whether the number is a special value or a normal counter value. Generic SNMP tools will treat a Counter32 as a Counter32 and not pay any attention to special values. If the Counter32 does not exist, then the best thing is to nor report that objects - every decent SNMP tool should be able to deal with this nicely. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From wim-biemans@kpnplanet.nl Mon Dec 7 11:35:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9A53A68CB for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:35:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.607 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.607 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, DEAR_SOMETHING=1.605, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oDHVHCU8xYJQ for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:35:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpsmtpb-ews03.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews03.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.6]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3028C3A6817 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:35:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpbrm-ews13.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.144]) by cpsmtpb-ews03.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:35:21 +0100 Received: from CPSMTPM-EML04.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.39.74]) by cpbrm-ews13.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:35:21 +0100 Received: from localhost ([10.94.77.200]) by CPSMTPM-EML04.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6001.18000); Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:35:13 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA7774.64ABA07A" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: Collection Agent Wanted Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:35:12 +0100 Message-ID: <5EA7EDAC20C5F24787413C90667334EA03C4EC82@CPEXBE-EML35.kpnsp.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Collection Agent Wanted Thread-Index: Acp3dGRv8MvDdBuvTViDb0I87Nx4Cg== From: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2009 19:35:13.0993 (UTC) FILETIME=[65B7B390:01CA7774] X-RecipientDomain: core3.amsl.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA7774.64ABA07A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable REF: HKC/82. =20 Dear Sir/Madam, =20 We avail ourselves of this opportunity to approach you for the = establishment of business relations with you. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01CA7774.64ABA07A-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 7 11:52:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3C328C1DA for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:52:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.542 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.542 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6jsk1NjY2qZV for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3976628C1A7 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C395E18200 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB45E240D3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D401CD489 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:51:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587C51CD486 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:51:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [99.23.160.78] (helo=oemcomputer) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NHjcE-00061l-UM; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:51:27 -0500 Message-ID: <004801ca7776$e340c700$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> From: "Randy Presuhn" To: "young" References: <003001ca7712$12022e90$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> <20091207181616.GA3248@elstar.local> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:53:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-ELNK-Trace: 4488c18417c9426da92b9037bc8bcf44d4c20f6b8d69d888494b88d665f13b401b24d1a47a697d46d466249b0cd69f3b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.23.160.78 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:52:34 -0800 Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] [MIB-DOCTORS] Discuss the counter32 issue in the MIBs X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi - > From: "Juergen Schoenwaelder" > To: "young" > Cc: ; > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:16 AM > Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Discuss the counter32 issue in the MIBs ... > If a Counter has the special value then it is ambiguous whether the > number is a special value or a normal counter value. Generic SNMP > tools will treat a Counter32 as a Counter32 and not pay any attention > to special values. If the Counter32 does not exist, then the best > thing is to nor report that objects - every decent SNMP tool should be > able to deal with this nicely. ... Agreed, but... For the manager, this situation is indistinguishable from that Counter having been made inaccessible due to access control. If they really really really need to unambiguously represent this special case, I'd suggest adding an object with a syntax of TruthValue to explicitly represent the condition. If there are a whole bunch of them, one might use a single BITS object, with one bit for each piece of data for which the condition can occur. Randy _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 7 13:26:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3613128C203 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:26:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.844 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.844 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.754, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zFwkaJne84uR for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCE228C0E3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8B3E18247 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:26:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A929E240D3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892BF1CD49A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:26:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462641CD481 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:26:13 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from relay.versatel.net (relay56.tele2.vuurwerk.nl [62.250.3.56]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.215.199.34] (helo=BertLaptop) by relay.versatel.net with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHl5r-0007R6-9k; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:26:07 +0100 Message-ID: <3F83A553E9704D22AA2BDB0B400102E2@BertLaptop> From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" To: "Randy Presuhn" , "young" References: <003001ca7712$12022e90$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com><20091207181616.GA3248@elstar.local> <004801ca7776$e340c700$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> In-Reply-To: <004801ca7776$e340c700$6801a8c0@oemcomputer> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:18:34 +0100 Organization: Consultant MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] [MIB-DOCTORS] Discuss the counter32 issue in the MIBs X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1422555900==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1422555900== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_252F_01CA778B.3745C800" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_252F_01CA778B.3745C800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Inline ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Randy Presuhn=20 To: young=20 Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org ; capwap@frascone.com=20 Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Discuss the counter32 issue in the MIBs Hi - > From: "Juergen Schoenwaelder" > To: "young" > Cc: ; > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:16 AM > Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] Discuss the counter32 issue in the MIBs ... > If a Counter has the special value then it is ambiguous whether the > number is a special value or a normal counter value. Generic SNMP > tools will treat a Counter32 as a Counter32 and not pay any = attention > to special values. If the Counter32 does not exist, then the best > thing is to nor report that objects - every decent SNMP tool should = be > able to deal with this nicely. ... Agreed, but... For the manager, this situation is indistinguishable from that Counter having been made inaccessible due to access control. If they really really really need to unambiguously represent this special case, I'd suggest adding an object with a syntax of TruthValue to explicitly represent the condition. And of that truthValue object were also inaccessible? Can't win on that one I think. Bert If there are a whole bunch of them, one might use a single BITS = object, with one bit for each piece of data for which the condition can occur. Randy _______________________________________________ MIB-DOCTORS mailing list MIB-DOCTORS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mib-doctors -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com=20 Versie: 9.0.709 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.97/2550 - datum van uitgifte: = 12/07/09 08:33:00 ------=_NextPart_000_252F_01CA778B.3745C800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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From:=20 Randy Presuhn
To: young
Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org ; capwap@frascone.com
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 = 8:53=20 PM
Subject: Re: [MIB-DOCTORS] = Discuss the=20 counter32 issue in the MIBs

Hi -

> From: "Juergen Schoenwaelder" <j.schoenwaelder@jaco= bs-university.de>
>=20 To: "young" <young@h3c.com>
>=20 Cc: <mib-doctors@ietf.org>;=20 <capwap@frascone.com>
>=20 Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: = [MIB-DOCTORS]=20 Discuss the counter32 issue in the MIBs
...
> If a Counter = has the=20 special value then it is ambiguous whether the
> number is a = special=20 value or a normal counter value. Generic SNMP
> tools will treat = a=20 Counter32 as a Counter32 and not pay any attention
> to special = values.=20 If the Counter32 does not exist, then the best
> thing is to nor = report=20 that objects - every decent SNMP tool should be
> able to deal = with this=20 nicely.
...

Agreed, but...

For the manager, this = situation is=20 indistinguishable from that Counter
having been made inaccessible = due to=20 access control.  If they really
really really need to = unambiguously=20 represent this special case, I'd
suggest adding an object with a = syntax of=20 TruthValue to explicitly
represent the = condition.
And of that truthValue object were also=20 inaccessible?
 
Can't win on that one I think.
 
Bert

If there are a whole bunch of them, one might use a single = BITS=20 object,
with one bit for each piece of data for which the condition = can=20 = occur.

Randy

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X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0797682547==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0797682547== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_24D5_01CA778A.CEB71E60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_24D5_01CA778A.CEB71E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adding that extra explanation wuill be good indeed. Bert ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Harrington=20 To: 'Bert (IETF) Wijnen' ; 'young'=20 Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org ; capwap@frascone.com=20 Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:49 PM Subject: RE: [Capwap] Could we close the counter32 issue by this way? Hi, Since Richard decided that the approrpriate way to handle this 65535 value called for by RFC5415 was to put it into the MIB counter, I suspect other implementers could reach a similar conclusion and implement it with the special value. I recommend removing the text from the objectthat says to use 65535 as a special value, but to add text that says it is inappropriate to implement this special value semantics, and if the WTP does not have this information, it should not instantiate the object. Since MIB modules are frequently distributed without the surrounding RFC text, I think this advisory should be in the MIB module itself, not in a separate implementer guidelines section. As an alternative, a new datatype could be defined (in a TC) that supported counter behavior, but also allowed for special value semantics like this. If the WG chooses this approach, they should definitely have a MIB Doctor involved to design this. I don't really recommend this approach because existing SNMP tools will not know how to work with this new datatype, and the goal of the SMI, SNMP, and standard MIB modules is to standardize the handling of monitoring data. dbh > -----Original Message----- > From: Bert (IETF) Wijnen [mailto:bertietf@bwijnen.net]=20 > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:31 AM > To: young > Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org; capwap@frascone.com > Subject: Re: [Capwap] Could we close the counter32 issue by this way? >=20 > Yep, if you remove that text, then I am happy with it in this case. >=20 > Bert >=20 > young wrote: > > Hi, Bert: > > > > Thanks.=20 > > Since the capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount and=20 > > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount already in a optional group > > (capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsGroup), what changes should be=20 > done is just to > > remove the text " A value of 65535 implies that this=20 > information is not > > available on the WTP" in the either object's description.=20 > > > > I think no other changes are required. > > Wish this way is correct. > > > > Regards > > Richard > > > > -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- > > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Bert (IETF) Wijnen = [mailto:bertietf@bwijnen.net]=20 > > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA12=D4=C27=C8=D5 16:52 > > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: young > > =B3=AD=CB=CD: mib-doctors@ietf.org; dromasca@avaya.com; capwap@frascone.com > > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: Discuss the counter32 issue in the MIBs > > > > inline > > > > > > young wrote: > > =20 > >> Hi, Bert: > >> > >> Thanks for you comments. > >> I still have doubts with the counter32 issue.=20 > >> My latest comment is under "-------- [Richard]". > >> Thanks for your comments. > >> > >> > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE > >> > SYNTAX Counter32 > >> > MAX-ACCESS read-only > >> > STATUS current > >> > DESCRIPTION > >> > "Represents the number of reboots that have=20 > occurred at the > >> > request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as=20 > a change in > >> > configuration that requires a reboot or an=20 > explicit CAPWAP > >> > protocol reset request. A value of 65535=20 > implies that this > >> > information is not available on the WTP." > >> > REFERENCE > >> > "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol=20 > Specification, RFC 5415. > >> " > >> > ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 } > >> > > >> > I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any=20 > value (like > >> the > >> > 65535) > >> > to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the > >> > semantics for > >> > the > >> > Counter32 SYNTAX. > >> > > >> [Richard] > >> It follows the RFC5415. > >> How about update the text with: > >> According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this > >> information is not available on the WTP. > >> > >> [Bert] > >> NOPE, not acceptable. A Counter cannot have special values!!!! > >> See the descripion of Counter32 in RFC2578! > >> --------------------------- > >> [Richard] > >> I checked the RFC2578, it says "Counters have no defined=20 > "initial" value, > >> and thus, a single value of a Counter has (in general) no=20 > information > >> content. " > >> RFC4181 talks about NOT OK with "reset to zero or to any=20 > other specific > >> value". > >> Since, it is " in general " with RFC2578, could=20 > >> We say " According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535=20 > implies that this > >> information is not available on the WTP "? > >> If it is not ok, > >> Maybe the optional method is to: > >> Add another two flag objects in the=20 > CapwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry to > >> indicate > >> whether the information for capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount or=20 > >> capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount is available or not on the WTP. > >> The description of capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount and > >> capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount would not talk about " a=20 > value of 65535 > >> implies that this information is not available on the WTP=20 > " any more. > >> Kindly let me know your opionion. > >> > >> =20 > >> =20 > > > > Richard, The semantics of a Counter32 do NOT allow what you=20 > want to do. > > I think if a WTP does not have the data, then it should just not > > instantiate the > > object. The problem then may be that the implementation cannot claim > > compliance. > > So be it. > > > > If it is common that a certain class of WTPs cannot support this > > counter, then > > you could make it an object of an optional group. That way=20 > an implementation > > can still claim compliance if it does not support this=20 > optional object > > (or set of > > optional objects). > > > > Does this help? > > > > Bert > > > > > > =20 > >> Regards > >> Richard > >> > >> -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- > >> =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap-request@frascone.com=20 > [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com]=20 > >> =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA12=D4=C27=C8=D5 6:33 > >> =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap@frascone.com > >> =D6=F7=CC=E2: Capwap Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3 > >> > >> Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > >> capwap@frascone.com > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> capwap-request@frascone.com > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> capwap-owner@frascone.com > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks (Richard) > >> 2. Re: Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > >> (Bert Wijnen (IETF)) > >> > >> > >>=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:19:05 +0800 > >> From: Richard > >> Subject: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > >> To: bertietf@bwijnen.net > >> Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com > >> Message-ID: > >> <8556013e0912060519h345209d0r8790188d1c33a40a@mail.gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > >> > >> Hi, Bert: > >> > >> Thanks for your comments. Most comments are clear to me, > >> while some of them need your guidance. > >> Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in details. > >> Please check my comments identified by [Richard]. > >> > >> =20 > >> =20 > >>> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" > >>> does not have a > >>> consistent indexing sche > >>> me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" > >>> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only > >>> one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> [Richard] > >> I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and let me know > >> how to fix it (if possiable). > >> > >> =20 > >> =20 > >>> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row > >>> "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does > >>> not have a consistent ind > >>> exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> row" > >> =20 > >> =20 > >>> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can > >>> have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> [Richard] > >> Same as the above one. > >> > >> > >> =20 > >> =20 > >>> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > >>> SYNTAX INTEGER { > >>> limited(0), > >>> fullAndLimited(1) > >>> } > >>> MAX-ACCESS read-create > >>> STATUS current > >>> > >>> Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> unless > >> =20 > >> =20 > >>> there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the=20 > DESCRIPTION > >>> clause). > >>> So... what is the reason? > >>> > >>> Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType > >>> And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType > >>> And possibly others!! pls check. > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> [Richard] > >> The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. > >> So how about the description updated in the following way? > >> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > >> SYNTAX INTEGER { > >> limited(0), > >> fullAndLimited(1) > >> } > >> MAX-ACCESS read-create > >> STATUS current > >> DESCRIPTION > >> "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion > >> Notification > >> (ECN) bits, as defined in > >> [RFC3168]. > >> The following enumerated values are > >> supported: > >> limited(0) - Limited ECN > >> support > >> fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support > >> Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB > >> object follow the same rule." > >> REFERENCE > >> "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification,=20 > RFC 5415." > >> > >> > >> =20 > >> =20 > >>> capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE > >>> SYNTAX Counter32 > >>> MAX-ACCESS read-only > >>> STATUS current > >>> DESCRIPTION > >>> "Represents the number of reboots that have=20 > occurred at the > >>> request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change in > >>> configuration that requires a reboot or an=20 > explicit CAPWAP > >>> protocol reset request. A value of 65535=20 > implies that this > >>> information is not available on the WTP." > >>> REFERENCE > >>> "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol=20 > Specification, RFC 5415. > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> " > >> =20 > >> =20 > >>> ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 } > >>> > >>> I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> the > >> =20 > >> =20 > >>> 65535) > >>> to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the > >>> semantics for > >>> the > >>> Counter32 SYNTAX. > >>> > >>> Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount > >>> and possibly others, pls check and make sure. > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> [Richard] > >> It follows the RFC5415. > >> How about update the text with: > >> According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this > >> information is not available on the WTP. > >> > >> =20 > >> =20 > >>> In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that > >>> some (or all) > >>> of > >>> the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> [Richard] > >> In fact, I don't understand why it is required? > >> The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is=20 > mandatory, and > >> The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no > >> special requirement to the IF-MIB. > >> Please let me know what should be done here? > >> > >> Regards > >> Richard > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: > >> > >> =20 > >=20 > http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/attachments/2009120 > 6/2d99dd44/att > > =20 > >> achment.htm=20 > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 23:32:17 +0100 > >> From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" > >> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > >> To: "Richard" > >> Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com > >> Message-ID: <3DDEC596F7704BD0A9F1E2EBB3F4CAC7@BertLaptop> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > >> > >> Inline > >> ----- Original Message -----=20 > >> From: Richard=20 > >> To: bertietf@bwijnen.net=20 > >> Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org ; capwap@frascone.com=20 > >> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 2:19 PM > >> Subject: Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > >> > >> > >> Hi, Bert: > >> > >> Thanks for your comments. Most comments are clear to me, > >> while some of them need your guidance. > >> Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification=20 > in details. > >> Please check my comments identified by [Richard]. > >> > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" > >> > does not have a > >> > consistent indexing sche > >> > me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" > >> > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only > >> > one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry > >> > >> [Richard] > >> I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and=20 > let me know=20 > >> how to fix it (if possiable).=20 > >> > >> > >> > >> The SMICng syntax checker is VERY strict on these things. > >> If you are 100% sure you want to index as you do, then it=20 > may be OK. > >> I advise to check with your co-editor/author David Perkins, who is > >> also the author of SMICng!!!!! > >> > >> > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row > >> > "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does > >> > not have a consistent ind > >> > exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from=20 > additional "base > >> row" > >> > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can > >> > have only one "base row" which is=20 > capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry > >> > >> [Richard] > >> Same as the above one. > >> > >> > >> same as above > >> > >> > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > >> > SYNTAX INTEGER { > >> > limited(0), > >> > fullAndLimited(1) > >> > } > >> > MAX-ACCESS read-create > >> > STATUS current > >> > > >> > Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, > >> unless > >> > there is a good reason (which we then like to see in=20 > the DESCRIPTION > >> > clause). > >> > So... what is the reason? > >> > > >> > Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType > >> > And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType > >> > And possibly others!! pls check. > >> > >> I do no tfind the arguments strong, but I can live with it > >> > >> > >> [Richard] > >> The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. > >> So how about the description updated in the following way? > >> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > >> SYNTAX INTEGER { =20 > =20 > >> limited(0), =20 > =20 > >> fullAndLimited(1) > >> > >> } =20 > >> MAX-ACCESS read-create =20 > =20 > >> STATUS current > >> DESCRIPTION =20 > >> "Represents the support for the Explicit=20 > Congestion Notification > >> > >> (ECN) bits, as defined in [RFC3168]. > >> > >> The following enumerated values are supported: > >> > >> limited(0) - Limited ECN support > >> > >> fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support > >> Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with=20 > zero, the MIB=20 > >> object follow the same rule." =20 > >> REFERENCE =20 > >> "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol=20 > Specification, RFC 5415." =20 > >> =20 > >> > >> > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE > >> > SYNTAX Counter32 > >> > MAX-ACCESS read-only > >> > STATUS current > >> > DESCRIPTION > >> > "Represents the number of reboots that have=20 > occurred at the > >> > request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as=20 > a change in > >> > configuration that requires a reboot or an=20 > explicit CAPWAP > >> > protocol reset request. A value of 65535=20 > implies that this > >> > information is not available on the WTP." > >> > REFERENCE > >> > "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol=20 > Specification, RFC 5415. > >> " > >> > ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 } > >> > > >> > I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any=20 > value (like > >> the > >> > 65535) > >> > to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the > >> > semantics for > >> > the > >> > Counter32 SYNTAX. > >> > > >> > >> NOPE, not acceptable. A Counter cannot have special values!!!! > >> See the descritpion of Counter32 in RFC2578! > >> > >> > Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount > >> > and possibly others, pls check and make sure. > >> > >> [Richard] > >> It follows the RFC5415. > >> How about update the text with: > >> According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this > >> information is not available on the WTP. > >> > >> Nope, you CANNOT use a Counter32 for that, see RFC2578 > >> > >> > In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that > >> > some (or all) > >> > of > >> > the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! > >> > >> [Richard] > >> In fact, I don't understand why it is required? > >> The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is=20 > mandatory, and > >> The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no > >> special requirement to the IF-MIB. > >> Please let me know what should be done here? > >> > >> > >> > >> I could try to work it out for you...=20 > >> However, I am sure that you co-author, co-editor David=20 > Perkins knows what > >> needs > >> to be done! > >> > >> Bert > >> > >> Regards > >> Richard > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: > >> > >> =20 > >=20 > http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/attachments/2009120 > 6/986444a9/att > > =20 > >> achment.htm=20 > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > >> http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > >> > >> End of Capwap Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3 > >> ************************************* > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> =20 > >> =20 > > > > > > > > > > > > =20 > Yep > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >=20 > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap >=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. 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Adding that extra explanation wuill be = good=20 indeed.
 
Bert
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David=20 Harrington
To: 'Bert (IETF) Wijnen' ; 'young'
Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org ; capwap@frascone.com
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 = 1:49=20 PM
Subject: RE: [Capwap] Could we = close the=20 counter32 issue by this way?

Hi,

Since Richard decided that the approrpriate = way to=20 handle this 65535
value called for by RFC5415 was to put it into = the MIB=20 counter, I
suspect other implementers could reach a similar = conclusion=20 and
implement it with the special value.

I recommend = removing the=20 text from the objectthat says to use 65535 as
a special value, but = to add=20 text that says it is inappropriate to
implement this special value=20 semantics, and if the WTP does not have
this information, it should = not=20 instantiate the object. Since MIB
modules are frequently = distributed=20 without the surrounding RFC text, I
think this advisory should be = in the=20 MIB module itself, not in a
separate implementer guidelines=20 section.

As an alternative, a new datatype could be defined (in = a TC)=20 that
supported counter behavior, but also allowed for special=20 value
semantics like this. If the WG chooses this approach, they=20 should
definitely have a MIB Doctor involved to design this. I = don't=20 really
recommend this approach because existing SNMP tools will not = know=20 how
to work with this new datatype, and the goal of the SMI, SNMP,=20 and
standard MIB modules is to standardize the handling of=20 monitoring
data.

dbh

> -----Original = Message-----
>=20 From: Bert (IETF) Wijnen [mailto:bertietf@bwijnen.net]
> Sent: = Monday,=20 December 07, 2009 7:31 AM
> To: young
> Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org; capwap@frascone.com
> = Subject: Re:=20 [Capwap] Could we close the counter32 issue by this
way?
> =
>=20 Yep, if you remove that text, then I am happy with it in this = case.
>=20
> Bert
>
> young wrote:
> > Hi, = Bert:
>=20 >
> > Thanks.
> > Since the=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount and
> >=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount already in a optional group
> = >=20 (capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsGroup), what changes should be
> done = is just=20 to
> > remove the text " A value of 65535 implies that this =
>=20 information is not
> > available on the WTP" in the either = object's=20 description.
> >
> > I think no other changes are=20 required.
> > Wish this way is correct.
> >
> = >=20 Regards
> > Richard
> >
> > = -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE-----
>=20 > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Bert (IETF) Wijnen = [mailto:bertietf@bwijnen.net]
> > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4:=20 2009=C4=EA12=D4=C27=C8=D5 16:52
> > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: = young
> > =B3=AD=CB=CD: mib-doctors@ietf.org; dromasca@avaya.com;
capwap@frascone.com
> = > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Re:=20 Discuss the counter32 issue in the MIBs
> >
> >=20 inline
> >
> >
> > young wrote:
>=20 >  
> >> Hi, Bert:
> >>
> = >>=20 Thanks for you comments.
> >> I still have doubts  = with the=20 counter32 issue.
> >> My latest comment is under = "--------=20 [Richard]".
> >> Thanks for your comments.
>=20 >>
> >>   > = capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount=20 OBJECT-TYPE
> >>   >    =20 SYNTAX      Counter32
> = >>  =20 >     MAX-ACCESS  read-only
>=20 >>   >    =20 STATUS      current
> = >>  =20 >     DESCRIPTION
> >>  =20 >         "Represents the = number of=20 reboots that have
> occurred at the
> = >>  =20 >          request of = a CAPWAP=20 protocol message, such as
> a change in
> = >>  =20 >          = configuration that=20 requires a reboot or an
> explicit CAPWAP
> = >>  =20 >          protocol = reset=20 request.  A value of 65535
> implies that this
>=20 >>  =20 >          information = is not=20 available on the WTP."
> >>  =20 >     REFERENCE
> >>  =20 >         "Section 4.6.47. = of=20 CAPWAP Protocol
> Specification, RFC 5415.
> = >>  =20 "
> >>   >     ::=3D {=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 }
> >>   = >
>=20 >>   > I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 = allows=20 any
> value (like
> >>   the
>=20 >>   > 65535)
> >>   > to = have a=20 specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the
>=20 >>   > semantics for
> >>   = >=20 the
> >>   > Counter32 SYNTAX.
>=20 >>   >
> >>   = [Richard]
>=20 >>   It follows the RFC5415.
> = >>   How=20 about update the text with:
> >>   According to = the RFC=20 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this
> >>  =20 information is not available on the WTP.
> >>
> = >>=20 [Bert]
> >> NOPE, not acceptable. A Counter cannot have = special=20 values!!!!
> >> See the descripion of Counter32 in=20 RFC2578!
> >> ---------------------------
> >> = [Richard]
> >> I checked the RFC2578, it says  = "Counters have=20 no defined
> "initial" value,
> >> and thus, a = single value=20 of a Counter has (in general) no
> information
> >> = content. "
> >> RFC4181 talks about NOT OK  with = "reset to=20 zero or to any
> other specific
> >> = value".
>=20 >> Since, it is " in general " with RFC2578, could
> = >> We=20 say " According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535
> implies = that=20 this
> >> information is not available on the WTP = "?
>=20 >> If it is not ok,
> >> Maybe the optional method = is=20 to:
> >> Add another two flag objects in the
>=20 CapwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry to
> >> indicate
> = >>=20 whether the information for capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount
or =
>=20 >> capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount is available or not on the=20 WTP.
> >> The description of = capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount=20 and
> >> capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount would not talk = about "=20 a
> value of 65535
> >> implies that this = information is=20 not available on the WTP
> " any more.
> >> Kindly = let me=20 know your opionion.
> >>
> >>   =
>=20 >>    
> >
> > Richard, = The=20 semantics of a Counter32 do NOT allow what you
> want to = do.
>=20 > I think if a WTP does not have the data, then it should just = not
>=20 > instantiate the
> > object. The problem then may be that = the=20 implementation cannot
claim
> > compliance.
> > = So be=20 it.
> >
> > If it is common that a certain class of = WTPs=20 cannot support this
> > counter, then
> > you could = make it=20 an object of an optional group. That way
> an = implementation
>=20 > can still claim compliance if it does not support this
> = optional=20 object
> > (or set of
> > optional objects).
> = >
> > Does this help?
> >
> > = Bert
>=20 >
> >
> >  
> >> = Regards
>=20 >> Richard
> >>
> >> = -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE-----
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> = >>    2. Re:=20 Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks
>=20 >>       (Bert Wijnen = (IETF))
>=20 >>
> >>
> >>=20 =
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>=20 >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sun, 6 Dec = 2009=20 21:19:05 +0800
> >> From: Richard <rishyang@gmail.com>
> = >>=20 Subject: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks
> = >>=20 To: bertietf@bwijnen.net
>=20 >> Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org,=20 capwap@frascone.com
> = >>=20 Message-ID:
> >> <8556013e0912060519h345209d0r8790188d1c33a40a@mail.gmail.com>>=20 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
>=20 >>
> >> Hi, Bert:
> >>
> >> = Thanks=20 for your comments.  Most comments are clear to me,
> = >> while=20 some of them need your guidance.
> >> Once I am clear, I = would=20 send out all the modification in
details.
> >> Please = check my=20 comments identified by [Richard].
> >>
>=20 >>  
> >>     =
>=20 >>> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row=20 "capwapBaseStationEntry"
> >>> does not have a
>=20 >>> consistent indexing sche
> >>> me - cannot = specify=20 an index item from additional "base row"
> >>>=20 capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only
> >>> one "base = row"=20 which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
>=20 >>>    
>=20 >>>      
> >>=20 [Richard]
> >> I don't understand the problem. Kindly = explain more=20 and let me
know
> >> how to fix it (if = possiable).
>=20 >>
> >>  
>=20 >>    
> >>> W: = f(capwap-base.mi2),=20 (1509,13) Row
> >>> "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry"=20 does
> >>> not have a consistent ind
> = >>> exing=20 scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional
"base
> = >>>    
>=20 >>>      
> >>=20 row"
> >>  
> = >>    =20
> >>> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
> = >>> have=20 only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
>=20 >>>    
>=20 >>>      
> >>=20 [Richard]
> >>  Same as the above one.
>=20 >>
> >>
> >>  
>=20 >>    
> >>>=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE
>=20 >>>     = SYNTAX     =20 INTEGER {
>=20 = >>>          &= nbsp;       =20 limited(0),
>=20 = >>>          &= nbsp;       =20 fullAndLimited(1)
>=20 = >>>          &= nbsp;     =20 }
> >>>     MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
> >>>    =20 STATUS      current
> = >>>
>=20 >>> Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with = zero,
> >>>    
>=20 >>>      
> >>=20 unless
> >>  
> = >>    =20
> >>> there is a good reason (which we then like to = see in the=20
> DESCRIPTION
> >>> clause).
> = >>> So...=20 what is the reason?
> >>>
> >>> Same = question=20 for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
> >>> And for:=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
> >>> And = possibly=20 others!! pls check.
> >>>     =
>=20 >>>      
> >>=20 [Richard]
> >> The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with=20 zero.
> >> So how about the description updated in the = following=20 way?
> >> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport = OBJECT-TYPE
>=20 >>     SYNTAX      = INTEGER=20 {
>=20 = >>           = ;       =20 limited(0),
>=20 = >>           = ;       =20 fullAndLimited(1)
>=20 = >>           = ;     =20 }
> >>     MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
> >>    =20 STATUS      current
>=20 >>     DESCRIPTION
>=20 >>         "Represents = the=20 support for the Explicit Congestion
> >> = Notification
>=20 >>          (ECN) = bits, as=20 defined in
> >> [RFC3168].
>=20 >>          The = following=20 enumerated values are
> >> supported:
>=20 = >>           = ;=20 limited(0)        - Limited = ECN
>=20 >> support
>=20 = >>           = ;=20 fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support
>=20 >>          Since = the=20 enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the
MIB
>=20 >>          object = follow=20 the same rule."
> >>     = REFERENCE
>=20 >>         "Section = 4.6.25. of=20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification,
> RFC 5415."
> = >>
>=20 >>
> >>  
>=20 >>    
> >>>=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE
>=20 >>>     = SYNTAX     =20 Counter32
> >>>     = MAX-ACCESS =20 read-only
> >>>    =20 STATUS      current
>=20 >>>     DESCRIPTION
>=20 >>>         = "Represents the=20 number of reboots that have
> occurred at the
>=20 >>>          = request of=20 a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change
in
>=20 >>>         =20 configuration that requires a reboot or an
> explicit = CAPWAP
>=20 >>>          = protocol=20 reset request.  A value of 65535
> implies that = this
>=20 >>>          = information=20 is not available on the WTP."
> = >>>    =20 REFERENCE
> = >>>        =20 "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol
> Specification, RFC = 5415.
>=20 >>>    
>=20 >>>      
> >> = "
>=20 >>  
> >>     =
>=20 >>>     ::=3D { = capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2=20 }
> >>>
> >>> I do not believe that a = SYNTAX of=20 Counter32 allows any value
(like
>=20 >>>    
>=20 >>>      
> >> = the
>=20 >>  
> >>     =
>=20 >>> 65535)
> >>> to have a specific meaning = !!!!! This=20 is impossible given the
> >>> semantics for
>=20 >>> the
> >>> Counter32 SYNTAX.
>=20 >>>
> >>> Same for:=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount
> >>> and possibly = others,=20 pls check and make sure.
> >>>     =
>=20 >>>      
> >>=20 [Richard]
> >> It follows the RFC5415.
> >> = How about=20 update the text with:
> >> According to the RFC 5415, a = value of=20 65535 implies that this
> >> information is not available = on the=20 WTP.
> >>
> >>  
>=20 >>    
> >>> In the=20 MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that
> = >>>=20 some (or all)
> >>> of
> >>> the IF-MIB = module=20 would also be mandatory???!!!
> = >>>    =20
> >>>      
> = >>=20 [Richard]
> >> In fact, I don't understand why it is=20 required?
> >> The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB = module=20 is
> mandatory, and
> >> The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies = on the=20 IF-MIB. There are no
> >> special requirement to the=20 IF-MIB.
> >> Please let me know what should be done = here?
>=20 >>
> >> Regards
> >> Richard
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> >> ------------------------------
>=20 >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Sun, 6 Dec = 2009=20 23:32:17 +0100
> >> From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" <bertietf@bwijnen.net>
>= =20 >> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments,=20 thanks
> >> To: "Richard" <rishyang@gmail.com>
> = >>=20 Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, = capwap@frascone.com
> = >>=20 Message-ID: <3DDEC596F7704= BD0A9F1E2EBB3F4CAC7@BertLaptop>
>=20 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
>=20 >>
> >> Inline
> >>   ----- = Original=20 Message -----
> >>   From: Richard
>=20 >>   To: bertietf@bwijnen.net
> = >>   Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org ; capwap@frascone.com
>=20 >>   Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 2:19 PM
>=20 >>   Subject: Please check my (Richard) comments,=20 thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>   = Hi,=20 Bert:
> >>
> >>   Thanks for your=20 comments.  Most comments are clear to me,
> = >>  =20 while some of them need your guidance.
> >>   = Once I am=20 clear, I would send out all the modification
> in = details.
>=20 >>   Please check my comments identified by = [Richard].
>=20 >>   > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row=20 "capwapBaseStationEntry"
> >>   > does not = have=20 a
> >>   > consistent indexing sche
>=20 >>   > me - cannot specify an index item from = additional=20 "base row"
> >>   > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since = can=20 have only
> >>   > one "base row" which is=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
> >>
> = >>  =20 [Richard]
> >>   I don't understand the problem. = Kindly=20 explain more and
> let me know
> >>   = how to fix=20 it (if possiable).
> >>
> >>
> = >>
>=20 >> The SMICng syntax checker is VERY strict on these = things.
>=20 >> If you are 100% sure you want to index as you do, then it =
>=20 may be OK.
> >> I advise to check with your = co-editor/author David=20 Perkins, who
is
> >> also the author of = SMICng!!!!!
>=20 >>
> >>   > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), = (1509,13)=20 Row
> >>   > = "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry"=20 does
> >>   > not have a consistent = ind
>=20 >>   > exing scheme - cannot specify an index item = from=20
> additional "base
> >>   row"
>=20 >>   > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
>=20 >>   > have only one "base row" which is
>=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
> >>
> = >>  =20 [Richard]
> >>    Same as the above = one.
>=20 >>
> >>
> >> same as above
>=20 >>
> >>   > = capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport=20 OBJECT-TYPE
> >>   >    =20 SYNTAX      INTEGER {
> = >>  =20 = >           &nb= sp;      =20 limited(0),
> >>  =20 = >           &nb= sp;      =20 fullAndLimited(1)
> >>  =20 = >           &nb= sp;    =20 }
> >>   >     = MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
> >>   >    =20 STATUS      current
> = >>  =20 >
> >>   > Normally we recommend that = ENUMERATIONS=20 do NOT start with
zero,
> >>   unless
> = >>   > there is a good reason (which we then like = to see in=20
> the DESCRIPTION
> >>   > = clause).
>=20 >>   > So... what is the reason?
>=20 >>   >
> >>   > Same = question for:=20 capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
> >>   > And for:=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
> >>   = > And=20 possibly others!! pls check.
> >>
> >> I do no = tfind=20 the arguments strong, but I can live with it
> >>
>=20 >>
> >>   [Richard]
> = >>  =20 The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero.
> = >>   So=20 how about the description updated in the following way?
>=20 >>   capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport = OBJECT-TYPE
>=20 >>      =20 SYNTAX      INTEGER=20 = {            =             &= nbsp;      =20
>          =
>=20 = >>           = ;         =20 = limited(0),          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;    =20 =
>           = ;  =20
>=20 = >>           = ;         =20 fullAndLimited(1)
> >>
>=20 = >>           = ;       =20 = }            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;   =20
> >>       MAX-ACCESS  = = read-create          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;      =20 =
>           = ;=20
> >>      =20 STATUS      current

>=20 >>      =20 = DESCRIPTION          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;      =20
> = >>          =20 "Represents the support for the Explicit
> Congestion=20 Notification
> >>
>=20 = >>           = ;=20 (ECN) bits, as defined in [RFC3168].
> >>
>=20 = >>           = ; The=20 following enumerated values are supported:
> >>
>=20 = >>           = ;  =20 limited(0)        - Limited ECN=20 support
> >>
>=20 = >>           = ;  =20 fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support
>=20 = >>           = ;=20 Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with
> zero, the MIB =
>=20 = >>           = ;=20 object follow the same=20 = rule."           &= nbsp;           =20
> >>      =20 = REFERENCE          &nbs= p;            = ;            =      =20
> = >>          =20 "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol
> Specification, RFC = 5415." =20
> = >>          =20
> >>
> >>   >=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE
> = >>  =20 >     SYNTAX     =20 Counter32
> >>   >    =20 MAX-ACCESS  read-only
> >>  =20 >     STATUS     =20 current
> >>   >    =20 DESCRIPTION
> >>  =20 >         "Represents the = number of=20 reboots that have
> occurred at the
> = >>  =20 >          request of = a CAPWAP=20 protocol message, such as
> a change in
> = >>  =20 >          = configuration that=20 requires a reboot or an
> explicit CAPWAP
> = >>  =20 >          protocol = reset=20 request.  A value of 65535
> implies that this
>=20 >>  =20 >          information = is not=20 available on the WTP."
> >>  =20 >     REFERENCE
> >>  =20 >         "Section 4.6.47. = of=20 CAPWAP Protocol
> Specification, RFC 5415.
> = >>  =20 "
> >>   >     ::=3D {=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 }
> >>   = >
>=20 >>   > I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 = allows=20 any
> value (like
> >>   the
>=20 >>   > 65535)
> >>   > to = have a=20 specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the
>=20 >>   > semantics for
> >>   = >=20 the
> >>   > Counter32 SYNTAX.
>=20 >>   >
> >>
> >> NOPE, not=20 acceptable. A Counter cannot have special values!!!!
> >> = See the=20 descritpion of Counter32 in RFC2578!
> >>
>=20 >>   > Same for:=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount
> >>   > = and=20 possibly others, pls check and make sure.
> >>
>=20 >>   [Richard]
> >>   It follows = the=20 RFC5415.
> >>   How about update the text = with:
>=20 >>   According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 = implies that=20 this
> >>   information is not available on the=20 WTP.
> >>
> >> Nope, you CANNOT use a = Counter32 for=20 that, see RFC2578
> >>
> >>   > = In the=20 MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that
>=20 >>   > some (or all)
> >>   = >=20 of
> >>   > the IF-MIB module would also be=20 mandatory???!!!
> >>
> >>  =20 [Richard]
> >>   In fact, I don't understand why = it is=20 required?
> >>   The ifGeneralInformationGroup = in the=20 IF-MIB module is
> mandatory, and
> >>   = The=20 CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no
>=20 >>   special requirement to the IF-MIB.
>=20 >>   Please let me know what should be done = here?
>=20 >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I could = try to=20 work it out for you...
> >> However, I am sure that you=20 co-author, co-editor David
> Perkins knows what
> = >>=20 needs
> >> to be done!
> >>
> >>=20 Bert
> >>
> >>   Regards
>=20 >>   Richard
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If they really > really really need to unambiguously represent this special case, I'd > suggest adding an object with a syntax of TruthValue to explicitly > represent the condition. > > And of that truthValue object were also inaccessible? > > Can't win on that one I think. ... It's a little better than a total loss. :-) If you retrieved the Counters, and the TruthValue wasn't there, you would *know* that you didn't know whether the Counter values are legitimate, and that the probable cause would almost certainly have been a quirky access control policy. With a "don't instantiate" policy, it's always ambiguous. Randy _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 7 14:12:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB9A3A6782 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:12:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.695 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.695 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.452, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, MIME_HTML_MOSTLY=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WB4BrdJxZ0QI for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850ED3A686C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD41E181B9 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5FFE240CA for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552921CD481 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:12:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494521CD488 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:12:28 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from relay.versatel.net (relay56.tele2.vuurwerk.nl [62.250.3.56]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.215.199.34] (helo=BertLaptop) by relay.versatel.net with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHlod-00053b-Lz; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:12:24 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" To: "young" References: <001901ca76da$11d2dba0$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> <4B1CC0F1.5070601@bwijnen.net> In-Reply-To: <4B1CC0F1.5070601@bwijnen.net> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:12:10 +0100 Organization: Consultant MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Cc: "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Thanks for your guidance and quick response X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0528661938==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0528661938== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_2797_01CA7792.B4214410" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_2797_01CA7792.B4214410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, some advuise: W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (851,17) Item = "capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress" should have SIZE specified I then look at: capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX PhysAddress MAX-ACCESS read-only=20 STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the WTP's Base MAC Address, which MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.40. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC = 5415." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 4 } Then I first get confused by the term "WtpBaseMacAddress, because I=20 think of a 48 byte Etehrnet Mac addres. If I then read rfc5415, sect = 4.6.30, I then read there is a VendorID of 32 bits, and then a Board Data = Subelement=20 (of size 32 plus max 1024), then the min size seems to be 64, buit = probably somewhat more. The max length seems to be 64+1024 is 1088. But there is also talk = about the fact that there can be multiple subelements. It does not say how = many. So I am left very confused as to what the SIZE of the MIB object can be. So.... I think it is very good that SMICng complained and warned that a = SIZE must be specified. It is up to the CAPWAP WG to define that SIZE, as I = cannot determin it from the cited paragraph in RFC5415. W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (974,17) Item "capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress" = should have SIZE specified Same story/comment/questions/confusion W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (2038,17) Item "capwapBaseNtfStationIdList" = should have SIZE specified Again, I cannot find what a reasonable SIZE would be. CAPWAP WG, pls = think about this and decide. The MAX length is 64K, but that will not be very sueful = with SNMP. You may want to make it (much) smaller. W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" does not = have a consistent indexing sche me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" = capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry The INDEX is as follows: INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId, capwapBaseStationId } The first one is the first index in another table The second one is the 2nd index in yet another table The 3rd one is an index (the 3rd one) in this table = capwapBaseStaionTable. That is indeed some sort of weird indexing. So that is why SMICng gives = a warning. It does not mean it is absolutely a fatal error. But it would be good = that the CAPWAP WG checks if this is indeed the indexing they intended and wanted.=20 W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" = does not have a consistent ind exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" = capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry Here the index objects are: INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId } That loks better, but again the the 2nd index is a 2nd index object in = another table that gets added as the 2nd index here. Pls make sure this is what = the WG intends and wants and that the indexing makes sense. For these "does not have a consistent indexing scheme" warnings, it = would be good to add some comment lines to the MIB module that explain why this indexing is = OK/INTENDED. Something like: -- The following indexing is intended because we want to show a = table that -- ... here you text ... INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId } That way, when the SYNTAX check is done, and the MIB doctor checks the = MIB module, then he can see the explanation and see that the indexing is indeed = intended and nit inconsistent by accident. More later Bert ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bert (IETF) Wijnen=20 To: young=20 Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Thanks for your guidance and quick response OK Richard, I will try to compose some advise tonight or Tuesday evening (European time). Bert young wrote: > Hi, Bert: > > Thanks for your guidance and quick response.=20 > David Perkins disappeared from the CAPWAP mailing list, and has not = put > effort in the MIB drafts for some time. I guessed he is very busy = with other > things. > I wonder when would he get back to IETF community?=20 > I have to ask your guidance and help. > > Regards > Richard > > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap-request@frascone.com = [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com]=20 > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA12=D4=C27=C8=D5 6:33 > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap@frascone.com > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Capwap Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3 > > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > capwap@frascone.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > capwap-request@frascone.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > capwap-owner@frascone.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks (Richard) > 2. Re: Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > (Bert Wijnen (IETF)) > > > = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:19:05 +0800 > From: Richard > Subject: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > To: bertietf@bwijnen.net > Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com > Message-ID: > <8556013e0912060519h345209d0r8790188d1c33a40a@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > > Hi, Bert: > > Thanks for your comments. Most comments are clear to me, > while some of them need your guidance. > Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in details. > Please check my comments identified by [Richard]. > > =20 >> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" >> does not have a >> consistent indexing sche >> me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" >> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only >> one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry >> =20 > > [Richard] > I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and let me know > how to fix it (if possiable). > > =20 >> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row >> "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does >> not have a consistent ind >> exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base >> =20 > row" > =20 >> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can >> have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry >> =20 > [Richard] > Same as the above one. > > > =20 >> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE >> SYNTAX INTEGER { >> limited(0), >> fullAndLimited(1) >> } >> MAX-ACCESS read-create >> STATUS current >> >> Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, >> =20 > unless > =20 >> there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the = DESCRIPTION >> clause). >> So... what is the reason? >> >> Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType >> And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType >> And possibly others!! pls check. >> =20 > [Richard] > The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. > So how about the description updated in the following way? > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX INTEGER { > limited(0), > fullAndLimited(1) > } > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion > Notification > (ECN) bits, as defined in > [RFC3168]. > The following enumerated values are > supported: > limited(0) - Limited ECN > support > fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support > Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB > object follow the same rule." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC = 5415." > > > =20 >> capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE >> SYNTAX Counter32 >> MAX-ACCESS read-only >> STATUS current >> DESCRIPTION >> "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at the >> request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change in >> configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit CAPWAP >> protocol reset request. A value of 65535 implies that = this >> information is not available on the WTP." >> REFERENCE >> "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC = 5415. >> =20 > " > =20 >> ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 } >> >> I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like >> =20 > the > =20 >> 65535) >> to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the >> semantics for >> the >> Counter32 SYNTAX. >> >> Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount >> and possibly others, pls check and make sure. >> =20 > > [Richard] > It follows the RFC5415. > How about update the text with: > According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this > information is not available on the WTP. > > =20 >> In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that >> some (or all) >> of >> the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! >> =20 > > [Richard] > In fact, I don't understand why it is required? > The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and > The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no > special requirement to the IF-MIB. > Please let me know what should be done here? > > Regards > Richard > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > = http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/attachments/20091206/2d99dd44/= att > achment.htm=20 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 23:32:17 +0100 > From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" > Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > To: "Richard" > Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com > Message-ID: <3DDEC596F7704BD0A9F1E2EBB3F4CAC7@BertLaptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > > Inline > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Richard=20 > To: bertietf@bwijnen.net=20 > Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org ; capwap@frascone.com=20 > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 2:19 PM > Subject: Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > > > Hi, Bert: > > Thanks for your comments. Most comments are clear to me, > while some of them need your guidance. > Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in details. > Please check my comments identified by [Richard]. > > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" > > does not have a > > consistent indexing sche > > me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" > > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only > > one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry > > [Richard] > I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and let me = know=20 > how to fix it (if possiable).=20 > > > > The SMICng syntax checker is VERY strict on these things. > If you are 100% sure you want to index as you do, then it may be OK. > I advise to check with your co-editor/author David Perkins, who is > also the author of SMICng!!!!! > > > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row > > "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does > > not have a consistent ind > > exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional = "base > row" > > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can > > have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry > > [Richard] > Same as the above one. > > > same as above > > > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > > SYNTAX INTEGER { > > limited(0), > > fullAndLimited(1) > > } > > MAX-ACCESS read-create > > STATUS current > > > > Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, > unless > > there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the = DESCRIPTION > > clause). > > So... what is the reason? > > > > Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType > > And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType > > And possibly others!! pls check. > > I do no tfind the arguments strong, but I can live with it > > > [Richard] > The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. > So how about the description updated in the following way? > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX INTEGER { =20 > limited(0), = =20 > fullAndLimited(1) > > } =20 > MAX-ACCESS read-create = =20 > STATUS current =20 > DESCRIPTION =20 > "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion = Notification > > (ECN) bits, as defined in [RFC3168]. > > The following enumerated values are supported: > > limited(0) - Limited ECN support > > fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support > Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the = MIB=20 > object follow the same rule." =20 > REFERENCE =20 > "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC = 5415." =20 > =20 > > > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE > > SYNTAX Counter32 > > MAX-ACCESS read-only > > STATUS current > > DESCRIPTION > > "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at = the > > request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change = in > > configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit = CAPWAP > > protocol reset request. A value of 65535 implies that = this > > information is not available on the WTP." > > REFERENCE > > "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC = 5415. > " > > ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 } > > > > I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value = (like > the > > 65535) > > to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the > > semantics for > > the > > Counter32 SYNTAX. > > > > NOPE, not acceptable. A Counter cannot have special values!!!! > See the descritpion of Counter32 in RFC2578! > > > Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount > > and possibly others, pls check and make sure. > > [Richard] > It follows the RFC5415. > How about update the text with: > According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this > information is not available on the WTP. > > Nope, you CANNOT use a Counter32 for that, see RFC2578 > > > In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that > > some (or all) > > of > > the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! > > [Richard] > In fact, I don't understand why it is required? > The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, = and > The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no > special requirement to the IF-MIB. > Please let me know what should be done here? > > > > I could try to work it out for you...=20 > However, I am sure that you co-author, co-editor David Perkins knows = what > needs > to be done! > > Bert > > Regards > Richard > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > = http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/attachments/20091206/986444a9/= att > achment.htm=20 > > ------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > End of Capwap Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3 > ************************************* > > > > > =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com=20 Versie: 9.0.709 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.97/2550 - datum van uitgifte: = 12/07/09 08:33:00 ------=_NextPart_000_2797_01CA7792.B4214410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK, some advuise:
 
W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (851,17) Item=20 "capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress" should have SIZE = specified
 
I then look at:
    =20 capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress =20 OBJECT-TYPE
       =20   SYNTAX      = PhysAddress
        =  =20 MAX-ACCESS  read-only
      =    =20 STATUS      current
     =      DESCRIPTION
        =     "Represents the WTP's Base MAC Address, which MAY=20 be
             = assigned to=20 the primary Ethernet = interface."
       =20   = REFERENCE
         =20   "Section 4.6.40. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC=20 5415."
          ::=3D { = capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 4 }
 
Then I first get confused by the term=20 "WtpBaseMacAddress, because I
think of a 48 byte Etehrnet Mac addres. = If I then=20 read rfc5415, sect 4.6.30,
I then read there is a VendorID of 32 = bits, and=20 then a Board Data Subelement
(of size 32 plus max 1024), then the = min size seems=20 to be 64, buit probably somewhat
more. The max length seems to be = 64+1024 is 1088.=20 But there is also talk about
the fact that there can be multiple = subelements. It=20 does not say how many.
So I am left very confused as to what = the SIZE of=20 the MIB object can be.
 
So.... I think it is very good that = SMICng=20 complained and warned that a SIZE
must be specified. It is up to the = CAPWAP WG to=20 define that SIZE, as I cannot
determin it from the cited paragraph in = RFC5415.
 
 
W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (974,17) Item=20 "capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress" should have SIZE specified
 
Same = story/comment/questions/confusion
 

W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (2038,17) Item = "capwapBaseNtfStationIdList"=20 should have SIZE specified
 
Again, I cannot find what a reasonable = SIZE would=20 be. CAPWAP WG, pls think about
this and decide. The MAX length is 64K, = but that=20 will not be very sueful with SNMP.
You may want to make it (much)=20 smaller.
 

W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" = does not=20 have a consistent indexing sche
me - cannot specify an index item = from=20 additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only
one = "base row"=20 which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
 
The INDEX is as follows:
 
    INDEX {
     =20 capwapBaseWtpCurrId,
     =20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId,
     =20 capwapBaseStationId
    }
 
The first one is the first index in another table
The second one is the 2nd index in yet another table
The 3rd one is an index (the 3rd one) in this table=20 capwapBaseStaionTable.
 
That is indeed some sort of weird indexing. So that is why SMICng = gives a=20 warning.
It does not mean it is absolutely a fatal error. But it would be = good that=20 the CAPWAP
WG checks if this is indeed the indexing they intended and wanted. =
 

W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row = "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry"=20 does not have a consistent ind
exing scheme - cannot specify an index = item=20 from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
have only = one "base=20 row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
 
Here the index objects are:
 
    INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId,=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId }
 
That loks better, but again the the 2nd index is a 2nd index object = in=20 another
table that gets added as the 2nd index here. Pls make sure this is = what=20 the
WG intends and wants and that the indexing makes sense.
 
 
For these "does not have a consistent indexing scheme" warnings, it = would=20 be good to add
some comment lines to the MIB module that explain why this indexing = is=20 OK/INTENDED.
Something like:
 
    -- The following indexing is intended because we = want to=20 show a table that
    -- ... here you text ...
    INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId,=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId }
 
That way, when the SYNTAX check is done, and the MIB doctor checks = the MIB=20 module,
then he can see the explanation and see that the indexing is indeed = intended and nit
inconsistent by accident.
 
 
More later
 
Bert
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bert (IETF)=20 Wijnen
To: young
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 = 9:46=20 AM
Subject: Re: Thanks for your = guidance and=20 quick response

OK Richard,

I will try to compose = some=20 advise tonight or Tuesday evening=20 (European
time).

Bert


young wrote:
> Hi,=20 Bert:
>
> Thanks for your guidance and quick response. =
>=20 David Perkins disappeared from the CAPWAP mailing list, and has not=20 put
> effort in the MIB drafts for some time. I guessed he is = very busy=20 with other
> things.
> I wonder when would he get back to = IETF=20 community?
> I have to ask your guidance and = help.
>
>=20 Regards
> Richard
>
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>=20 = ---------------------------------------------------------------------->
>=20 Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:19:05 +0800
> From: = Richard=20 <rishyang@gmail.com>
>=20 Subject: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks
> = To: bertietf@bwijnen.net
> = Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com
>=20 Message-ID:
> <8556013e0912060519h345209d0r8790188d1c33a40a@mail.gmail.com>>=20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi,=20 Bert:
>
> Thanks for your comments.  Most comments = are clear=20 to me,
> while some of them need your guidance.
> Once I = am clear,=20 I would send out all the modification in details.
> Please check = my=20 comments identified by [Richard].
>
>   =
>> W:=20 f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry"
>> = does not=20 have a
>> consistent indexing sche
>> me - cannot = specify an=20 index item from additional "base row"
>> capwapBaseWtpEntry, = since=20 can have only
>> one "base row" which is=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
>>    =20
>
> [Richard]
> I don't understand the problem. = Kindly=20 explain more and let me know
> how to fix it (if=20 possiable).
>
>  
>> W: = f(capwap-base.mi2),=20 (1509,13) Row
>> "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" = does
>>=20 not have a consistent ind
>> exing scheme - cannot specify an = index=20 item from additional "base
>>     =
>=20 row"
>  
>> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since=20 can
>> have only one "base row" which is=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
>>     =
>=20 [Richard]
>  Same as the above=20 one.
>
>
>  
>>=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport=20 OBJECT-TYPE
>>    =20 SYNTAX      INTEGER=20 = {
>>          =         =20 = limited(0),
>>        &n= bsp;         =20 = fullAndLimited(1)
>>       &n= bsp;        =20 }
>>     MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
>>    =20 STATUS      current
>>
>> = Normally=20 we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with=20 zero,
>>    
> = unless
>  =20
>> there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the=20 DESCRIPTION
>> clause).
>> So... what is the=20 reason?
>>
>> Same question for:=20 capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
>> And for:=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
>> And possibly = others!! pls=20 check.
>>    
> [Richard]
> = The=20 enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero.
> So how about the = description=20 updated in the following way?
> = capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport=20 OBJECT-TYPE
>    =20 SYNTAX      INTEGER=20 = {
>          &nbs= p;       =20 = limited(0),
>         =          =20 = fullAndLimited(1)
>        =         =20 }
>     MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
>    =20 STATUS      = current
>    =20 DESCRIPTION
>        =20 "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion
>=20 = Notification
>         = ;=20 (ECN) bits, as defined in
>=20 = [RFC3168].
>          = The=20 following enumerated values are
>=20 = supported:
>         &= nbsp; =20 limited(0)        - Limited = ECN
>=20 = support
>         &nbs= p; =20 fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN=20 support
>          = Since=20 the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the=20 MIB
>          = object=20 follow the same rule."
>    =20 REFERENCE
>         = "Section=20 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC=20 5415."
>
>
>  
>>=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount=20 OBJECT-TYPE
>>    =20 SYNTAX     =20 Counter32
>>     MAX-ACCESS =20 read-only
>>    =20 STATUS     =20 current
>>    =20 = DESCRIPTION
>>        =20 "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at=20 the
>>          = request=20 of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change=20 in
>>         =20 configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit=20 = CAPWAP
>>          = protocol reset request.  A value of 65535 implies that=20 this
>>          = information is not available on the = WTP."
>>    =20 REFERENCE
>>         = "Section=20 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC=20 5415.
>>    
> = "
>  =20
>>     ::=3D { = capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2=20 }
>>
>> I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 = allows=20 any value (like
>>    
>=20 the
>  
>> 65535)
>> to have a = specific=20 meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the
>> semantics=20 for
>> the
>> Counter32 = SYNTAX.
>>
>> Same=20 for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount
>> and possibly = others, pls=20 check and make sure.
>>     =
>
>=20 [Richard]
> It follows the RFC5415.
> How about update the = text=20 with:
> According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that = this
> information is not available on the=20 WTP.
>
>  
>> In the = MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I=20 would have expected at least that
>> some (or = all)
>>=20 of
>> the IF-MIB module would also be=20 mandatory???!!!
>>    
>
>=20 [Richard]
> In fact, I don't understand why it is = required?
> The=20 ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, = and
> The=20 CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no
> special = requirement=20 to the IF-MIB.
> Please let me know what should be done=20 here?
>
> Regards
> Richard
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>=20 Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 23:32:17 +0100
> From: = "Bert=20 Wijnen \(IETF\)" <bertietf@bwijnen.net>
>= =20 Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, = thanks
> To:=20 "Richard" <rishyang@gmail.com>
> = Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com
> = Message-ID:=20 <3DDEC596F7704= BD0A9F1E2EBB3F4CAC7@BertLaptop>
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>
>=20 Inline
>   ----- Original Message ----- =
>  =20 From: Richard
>   To: bertietf@bwijnen.net=20
>   Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org ; capwap@frascone.com =
>  =20 Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 2:19 PM
>   Subject: = Please=20 check my (Richard) comments, = thanks
>
>
>   Hi,=20 Bert:
>
>   Thanks for your comments.  Most = comments are clear to me,
>   while some of them need = your=20 guidance.
>   Once I am clear, I would send out all = the=20 modification in details.
>   Please check my comments=20 identified by [Richard].
>   > W: = f(capwap-base.mi2),=20 (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry"
>   > does = not have=20 a
>   > consistent indexing = sche
>   >=20 me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base=20 row"
>   > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have=20 only
>   > one "base row" which is=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
>
>  =20 [Richard]
>   I don't understand the problem. Kindly = explain=20 more and let me know
>   how to fix it (if = possiable).=20
>
>
>
> The SMICng syntax checker is VERY = strict on=20 these things.
> If you are 100% sure you want to index as you = do, then=20 it may be OK.
> I advise to check with your co-editor/author = David=20 Perkins, who is
> also the author of=20 SMICng!!!!!
>
>   > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), = (1509,13)=20 Row
>   > "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry"=20 does
>   > not have a consistent = ind
>  =20 > exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional=20 "base
>   row"
>   > = capwapBaseWtpEntry,=20 since can
>   > have only one "base row" which is=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
>
>  =20 [Richard]
>    Same as the above=20 one.
>
>
> same as above
>
>   = >=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE
>  =20 >     SYNTAX      = INTEGER=20 {
>  =20 = >           &nb= sp;      =20 limited(0),
>  =20 = >           &nb= sp;      =20 fullAndLimited(1)
>  =20 = >           &nb= sp;    =20 }
>   >     MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
>   >    =20 STATUS      current
>  =20 >
>   > Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS = do NOT=20 start with zero,
>   unless
>   > = there is=20 a good reason (which we then like to see in the=20 DESCRIPTION
>   > clause).
>   > = So...=20 what is the reason?
>   >
>   > = Same=20 question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
>   > And = for:=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
>   > And = possibly=20 others!! pls check.
>
> I do no tfind the arguments = strong, but I=20 can live with it
>
>
>  =20 [Richard]
>   The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with=20 zero.
>   So how about the description updated in the=20 following way?
>   capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport=20 OBJECT-TYPE
>      =20 SYNTAX      INTEGER=20 = {            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;   =20 =
>           = ;         =20 = limited(0),          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;     =20 =
>           = ;         =20 = fullAndLimited(1)
>
>      &nbs= p;           =20 = }            =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;   =20
>       MAX-ACCESS =20 = read-create          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;     =20
>      =20 STATUS     =20 = current           =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;    =20
>      =20 = DESCRIPTION          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;      =20
>          =20 "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion=20 = Notification
>
>       &nb= sp;   =20 (ECN) bits, as defined in=20 = [RFC3168].
>
>        = ;   =20 The following enumerated values are=20 = supported:
>
>        = ;     =20 limited(0)        - Limited ECN=20 = support
>
>        &n= bsp;    =20 fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN=20 = support
>         &nbs= p; =20 Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB=20 =
>           = ;=20 object follow the same=20 = rule."           &= nbsp;           =20
>      =20 = REFERENCE          &nbs= p;            = ;            =      =20
>           = "Section=20 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." =20
>          =20
>
>   > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount=20 OBJECT-TYPE
>   >    =20 SYNTAX      Counter32
>  =20 >     MAX-ACCESS  = read-only
>  =20 >     STATUS     =20 current
>   >    =20 DESCRIPTION
>  =20 >         "Represents the = number of=20 reboots that have occurred at the
>  =20 >          request of = a CAPWAP=20 protocol message, such as a change in
>  =20 >          = configuration that=20 requires a reboot or an explicit CAPWAP
>  =20 >          protocol = reset=20 request.  A value of 65535 implies that this
>  =20 >          information = is not=20 available on the WTP."
>   = >    =20 REFERENCE
>  =20 >         "Section 4.6.47. = of=20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415.
>  =20 "
>   >     ::=3D {=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 }
>   = >
>  =20 > I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value=20 (like
>   the
>   >=20 65535)
>   > to have a specific meaning !!!!! This = is=20 impossible given the
>   > semantics=20 for
>   > the
>   > Counter32=20 SYNTAX.
>   >
>
> NOPE, not acceptable. = A=20 Counter cannot have special values!!!!
> See the descritpion of=20 Counter32 in RFC2578!
>
>   > Same for:=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount
>   > and = possibly=20 others, pls check and make sure.
>
>  =20 [Richard]
>   It follows the = RFC5415.
>   How=20 about update the text with:
>   According to the RFC = 5415, a=20 value of 65535 implies that this
>   information is = not=20 available on the WTP.
>
> Nope, you CANNOT use a Counter32 = for=20 that, see RFC2578
>
>   > In the = MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I=20 would have expected at least that
>   > some (or=20 all)
>   > of
>   > the IF-MIB = module=20 would also be mandatory???!!!
>
>  =20 [Richard]
>   In fact, I don't understand why it is=20 required?
>   The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the = IF-MIB=20 module is mandatory, and
>   The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB = relies on the=20 IF-MIB. There are no
>   special requirement to the=20 IF-MIB.
>   Please let me know what should be done=20 here?
>
>
>
> I could try to work it out for = you...=20
> However, I am sure that you co-author, co-editor David = Perkins knows=20 what
> needs
> to be done!
>
>=20 Bert
>
>   Regards
>   = Richard
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All CAPWAP Implementations MUST support the Limited ECN Support mode. Full ECN Support is used if both the WTP and AC advertise the capability for "Full and Limited ECN" Support; otherwise, Limited ECN Support is used. 0 - Limited ECN Support 1 - Full and Limited ECN Support So from that, I do not see why you could not change your enumeration at = 1.=20 Bit zero is not a zero value, and bit 1 is not a 1 value. They represent = the values 8 and 4, and so you have to convert them anyways to go into the=20 MIB OBJECT. So I would RECOMMEND to do=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX INTEGER { limited(1), fullAndLimited(2) } MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current >> Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType >> And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType >> And possibly others!! pls check. >> =20 > [Richard] > The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. > So how about the description updated in the following way? > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX INTEGER { > limited(0), > fullAndLimited(1) > } > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion > Notification > (ECN) bits, as defined in > [RFC3168]. > The following enumerated values are > supported: > limited(0) - Limited ECN > support > fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support > Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB > object follow the same rule." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." > See above!!! Bert ------=_NextPart_000_27A3_01CA7793.8D1B60C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
More detail W.r.t. my comments on=20 this:
 
>> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport=20 OBJECT-TYPE
>>    =20 SYNTAX      INTEGER=20 {
>>          =         =20 limited(0),
>>        &n= bsp;         =20 fullAndLimited(1)
>>       &n= bsp;        =20 }
>>     MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
>>    =20 STATUS      current
>>
>> = Normally we=20 recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero,
>>=20 unless
>> there is a good reason (which we then like to see in = the=20 DESCRIPTION
>> clause).
>> So... what is the=20 reason?
>>
 
You point to RFC5415 sect 4..6.25, = where I=20 read:
 
   The ECN Support message = element is=20 sent by both the WTP and the AC to
   indicate their = support for=20 the Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN)
   bits, as = defined in=20 [RFC3168].
 
     =20 0
      0 1 2 3 4 5 6 = 7
    =20 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |  ECN Support =20 |
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 
   Type:   53 for = ECN=20 Support
 
   Length:   = 1
 
   ECN Support:   = An 8-bit=20 value representing the sender's support = for
     =20 ECN, as defined in [RFC3168].  All CAPWAP Implementations=20 MUST
      support the Limited ECN Support=20 mode.  Full ECN Support is used = if
      both=20 the WTP and AC advertise the capability for "Full and=20 Limited
      ECN" Support; otherwise, = Limited ECN=20 Support is used.
 
      0 = -  Limited=20 ECN Support
 
      1 = -  Full and=20 Limited ECN Support
 
 
So from that, I do not see why you = could not change=20 your enumeration at 1.
Bit zero is not a zero value, and bit 1 = is not a 1=20 value. They represent the
values 8 and 4, and so you have to = convert them=20 anyways to go into the
MIB OBJECT. So I would RECOMMEND to do=20
 
 
 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport=20 OBJECT-TYPE
     = SYNTAX     =20 INTEGER=20 {
           &n= bsp;      =20 limited(1),
         &nbs= p;        =20 fullAndLimited(2)
        &nbs= p;       =20 }
     MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
     = STATUS     =20 current

 

>> Same question for: = capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
>> And=20 for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
>> And possibly = others!!=20 pls check.
>>    
> = [Richard]
> The=20 enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero.
> So how about the = description=20 updated in the following way?
> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport=20 OBJECT-TYPE
>     = SYNTAX     =20 INTEGER=20 {
>          &nbs= p;       =20 limited(0),
>         =          =20 fullAndLimited(1)
>        =         =20 }
>     MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
>     = STATUS     =20 current
>    =20 DESCRIPTION
>         = "Represents=20 the support for the Explicit Congestion
>=20 Notification
>         = ; (ECN)=20 bits, as defined in
>=20 [RFC3168].
>          = The=20 following enumerated values are
>=20 supported:
>         &= nbsp; =20 limited(0)        - Limited = ECN
>=20 support
>         &nbs= p; =20 fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN=20 support
>          = Since the=20 enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the=20 MIB
>          object = follow=20 the same rule."
>    =20 REFERENCE
>         = "Section=20 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
>
 
See above!!!

Bert
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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 7 14:44:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601BA3A681C for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:44:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.05 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.05 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.548, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C6udZnYcfZFm for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFCE3A680D for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA71E1819A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD3CE240CA for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:43:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9151CD49A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:43:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650F11CD481 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:43:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from relay.versatel.net (relay56.tele2.vuurwerk.nl [62.250.3.56]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.215.199.34] (helo=BertLaptop) by relay.versatel.net with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NHmIz-0004qZ-KZ; Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:43:45 +0100 Message-ID: <2BA2820C22DB479C860FDFFE07933D5A@BertLaptop> From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" To: "young" References: <001901ca76da$11d2dba0$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> In-Reply-To: <001901ca76da$11d2dba0$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:38:13 +0100 Organization: Consultant MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Cc: "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Thanks for your guidance and quick response X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0141258527==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0141258527== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_27D0_01CA7796.57B77100" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_27D0_01CA7796.57B77100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable more details/advise about my commet: > In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that > some (or all) of the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! [Richard] In fact, I don't understand why it is required? The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no special requirement to the IF-MIB. Please let me know what should be done here? Section 7.2 of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06.txt states that=20 The IF-MIB module is required to be supported on the AC. So when I see a MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected something like: capwapBaseCompliance MODULE-COMPLIANCE STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Describes the requirements for conformance to the CAPWAP-BASE-MIB module." MODULE IF-MIB=20 MANDATORY-GROUPS { some mandatory groups from the IF-MIB, possibly all? } ... potentially some optional groups from IF-MIB as well? ... and then follow the MANDATORY GROUPS of THIS MODULE (the = CAPWAP-BASE-MIB module) =20 MODULE -- this module MANDATORY-GROUPS { capwapBaseAcNodeGroup, capwapBaseWtpProfileGroup, capwapBaseWtpStateGroup, capwapBaseWtpGroup, capwapBaseRadioGroup, capwapBaseStationGroup } For an example, see RFC3811, but also RFC3289 But then, maybe if indeed the WHOLE IF-MIB MUST be supported, then just = stating that may be OK. Bert ------=_NextPart_000_27D0_01CA7796.57B77100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
more details/advise about my = commet:

>=20 In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that
> = some (or=20 all) of the IF-MIB module would also be = mandatory???!!!

[Richard]
In=20 fact, I don't understand why it is required?
The = ifGeneralInformationGroup=20 in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and
The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies = on the=20 IF-MIB. There are no
special requirement to the IF-MIB.
Please = let me=20 know what should be done here?
Section 7.2 of = draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06.txt=20 states that
       The = IF-MIB module=20 is required to be supported on the AC.
 
So when I see a MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I = would have=20 expected something like:
 
capwapBaseCompliance=20 MODULE-COMPLIANCE
   STATUS current
  =20 DESCRIPTION
       "Describes the = requirements=20 for conformance to the
       =20 CAPWAP-BASE-MIB module."
 
   MODULE  IF-MIB =
      =20 MANDATORY-GROUPS {
          =  =20 some mandatory groups from the IF-MIB, possibly all?
       = }
   ... potentially some = optional=20 groups from IF-MIB as well?
 
   ... and then follow = the MANDATORY=20 GROUPS of THIS MODULE (the CAPWAP-BASE-MIB module)
 
   MODULE -- this=20 module
     MANDATORY-GROUPS=20 {
      =20 capwapBaseAcNodeGroup,
      =20 capwapBaseWtpProfileGroup,
      =20 capwapBaseWtpStateGroup,
      =20 capwapBaseWtpGroup,
      =20 capwapBaseRadioGroup,
      =20 capwapBaseStationGroup
     }
 
 
For an example, see RFC3811, but also=20 RFC3289
 
But then, maybe if indeed the WHOLE = IF-MIB MUST be=20 supported, then just stating that
may be OK.
 
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Subject: [Capwap] My(Richard) comments to the object size issues X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0994534652==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com --===============0994534652== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YDaa9nIL2P02onPx/HlPOQ)" --Boundary_(ID_YDaa9nIL2P02onPx/HlPOQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Bert: =20 Please check my comments in line (under //////). =20 Regards Richard =20 -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Bert Wijnen (IETF) [mailto:bertietf@bwijnen.net]=20 =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA12=D4=C28=C8=D5 6:12 =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: young =B3=AD=CB=CD: MIB Doctors (E-mail); capwap@frascone.com =D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: Thanks for your guidance and quick response =20 OK, some advuise: =20 [Bert] W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (851,17) Item = "capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress" should have SIZE specified =20 I then look at: capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX PhysAddress MAX-ACCESS read-only=20 STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the WTP's Base MAC Address, which MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.40. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC = 5415." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 4 } =20 Then I first get confused by the term "WtpBaseMacAddress, because I=20 think of a 48 byte Etehrnet Mac addres. If I then read rfc5415, sect = 4.6.30, I then read there is a VendorID of 32 bits, and then a Board Data = Subelement (of size 32 plus max 1024), then the min size seems to be 64, buit = probably somewhat more. The max length seems to be 64+1024 is 1088. But there is also talk about the fact that there can be multiple subelements. It does not say how = many. So I am left very confused as to what the SIZE of the MIB object can be. =20 So.... I think it is very good that SMICng complained and warned that a = SIZE must be specified. It is up to the CAPWAP WG to define that SIZE, as I cannot determin it from the cited paragraph in RFC5415. //////////// [Richard] Yes, the size could be specified. I guest you misunderstood it. In fact, the capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress=20 is only corresponding to the " 4 - Base MAC Address" in the Board = data =A3=A8RFC5415=A3=A9.=20 =20 According to the following text in the RFC5415=A3=ACThe MAC Address is = EUI-48 [EUI-48] or EUI-64. CAPWAP implementations MUST support certificates where the common name (CN) for both the WTP and AC is the MAC address of that device. The MAC address MUST be encoded in the PrintableString format, using the well-recognized MAC address format of 01:23:45:67:89:ab. The CN field MAY contain either of the EUI-48 [EUI-48] or EUI-64 [EUI-64] MAC Address formats. =20 W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (974,17) Item "capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress" = should have SIZE specified =20 Same story/comment/questions/confusion //////////// [Richard] same as above. =20 W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (2038,17) Item "capwapBaseNtfStationIdList" = should have SIZE specified =20 Again, I cannot find what a reasonable SIZE would be. CAPWAP WG, pls = think about this and decide. The MAX length is 64K, but that will not be very sueful with SNMP. You may want to make it (much) smaller. //////////// [Richard] I discussed it with Yong, and suggest SIZE is 1024. =20 =20 ////// I would check the following comments later. W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" does not = have a consistent indexing sche me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry =20 The INDEX is as follows: =20 INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId, capwapBaseStationId } =20 The first one is the first index in another table The second one is the 2nd index in yet another table The 3rd one is an index (the 3rd one) in this table = capwapBaseStaionTable. =20 That is indeed some sort of weird indexing. So that is why SMICng gives = a warning. It does not mean it is absolutely a fatal error. But it would be good = that the CAPWAP WG checks if this is indeed the indexing they intended and wanted.=20 =20 W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" = does not have a consistent ind exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry =20 Here the index objects are: =20 INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId } =20 That loks better, but again the the 2nd index is a 2nd index object in another table that gets added as the 2nd index here. Pls make sure this is what = the WG intends and wants and that the indexing makes sense. =20 =20 For these "does not have a consistent indexing scheme" warnings, it = would be good to add some comment lines to the MIB module that explain why this indexing is OK/INTENDED. Something like: =20 -- The following indexing is intended because we want to show a = table that -- ... here you text ... INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId } =20 That way, when the SYNTAX check is done, and the MIB doctor checks the = MIB module, then he can see the explanation and see that the indexing is indeed = intended and nit inconsistent by accident. =20 =20 More later =20 Bert =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bert (IETF) Wijnen=20 To: young =20 Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Thanks for your guidance and quick response =20 OK Richard, I will try to compose some advise tonight or Tuesday evening (European time). Bert young wrote: > Hi, Bert: > > Thanks for your guidance and quick response.=20 > David Perkins disappeared from the CAPWAP mailing list, and has not = put > effort in the MIB drafts for some time. I guessed he is very busy with other > things. > I wonder when would he get back to IETF community?=20 > I have to ask your guidance and help. > > Regards > Richard > > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap-request@frascone.com = [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com]=20 > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA12=D4=C27=C8=D5 6:33 > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap@frascone.com > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Capwap Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3 > > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > capwap@frascone.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > capwap-request@frascone.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > capwap-owner@frascone.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks (Richard) > 2. Re: Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > (Bert Wijnen (IETF)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:19:05 +0800 > From: Richard > Subject: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > To: bertietf@bwijnen.net > Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com > Message-ID: > <8556013e0912060519h345209d0r8790188d1c33a40a@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > > Hi, Bert: > > Thanks for your comments. Most comments are clear to me, > while some of them need your guidance. > Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in details. > Please check my comments identified by [Richard]. > > =20 >> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" >> does not have a >> consistent indexing sche >> me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" >> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only >> one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry >> =20 > > [Richard] > I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and let me know > how to fix it (if possiable). > > =20 >> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row >> "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does >> not have a consistent ind >> exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base >> =20 > row" > =20 >> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can >> have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry >> =20 > [Richard] > Same as the above one. > > > =20 >> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE >> SYNTAX INTEGER { >> limited(0), >> fullAndLimited(1) >> } >> MAX-ACCESS read-create >> STATUS current >> >> Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, >> =20 > unless > =20 >> there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the DESCRIPTION >> clause). >> So... what is the reason? >> >> Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType >> And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType >> And possibly others!! pls check. >> =20 > [Richard] > The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. > So how about the description updated in the following way? > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX INTEGER { > limited(0), > fullAndLimited(1) > } > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion > Notification > (ECN) bits, as defined in > [RFC3168]. > The following enumerated values are > supported: > limited(0) - Limited ECN > support > fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support > Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB > object follow the same rule." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." > > > =20 >> capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE >> SYNTAX Counter32 >> MAX-ACCESS read-only >> STATUS current >> DESCRIPTION >> "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at the >> request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change in >> configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit CAPWAP >> protocol reset request. A value of 65535 implies that this >> information is not available on the WTP." >> REFERENCE >> "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415. >> =20 > " > =20 >> ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 } >> >> I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like >> =20 > the > =20 >> 65535) >> to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the >> semantics for >> the >> Counter32 SYNTAX. >> >> Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount >> and possibly others, pls check and make sure. >> =20 > > [Richard] > It follows the RFC5415. > How about update the text with: > According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this > information is not available on the WTP. > > =20 >> In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that >> some (or all) >> of >> the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! >> =20 > > [Richard] > In fact, I don't understand why it is required? > The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and > The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no > special requirement to the IF-MIB. > Please let me know what should be done here? > > Regards > Richard > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/attachments/20091206/2d99dd44/= att > achment.htm=20 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 23:32:17 +0100 > From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" > Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > To: "Richard" > Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com > Message-ID: <3DDEC596F7704BD0A9F1E2EBB3F4CAC7@BertLaptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > > Inline > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Richard=20 > To: bertietf@bwijnen.net=20 > Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org ; capwap@frascone.com=20 > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 2:19 PM > Subject: Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks > > > Hi, Bert: > > Thanks for your comments. Most comments are clear to me, > while some of them need your guidance. > Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in details. > Please check my comments identified by [Richard]. > > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" > > does not have a > > consistent indexing sche > > me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" > > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only > > one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry > > [Richard] > I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and let me know=20 > how to fix it (if possiable).=20 > > > > The SMICng syntax checker is VERY strict on these things. > If you are 100% sure you want to index as you do, then it may be OK. > I advise to check with your co-editor/author David Perkins, who is > also the author of SMICng!!!!! > > > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row > > "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does > > not have a consistent ind > > exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base > row" > > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can > > have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry > > [Richard] > Same as the above one. > > > same as above > > > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > > SYNTAX INTEGER { > > limited(0), > > fullAndLimited(1) > > } > > MAX-ACCESS read-create > > STATUS current > > > > Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, > unless > > there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the = DESCRIPTION > > clause). > > So... what is the reason? > > > > Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType > > And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType > > And possibly others!! pls check. > > I do no tfind the arguments strong, but I can live with it > > > [Richard] > The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. > So how about the description updated in the following way? > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX INTEGER { =20 > limited(0), = =20 > fullAndLimited(1) > > } =20 > MAX-ACCESS read-create =20 > STATUS current =20 > DESCRIPTION =20 > "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion = Notification > > (ECN) bits, as defined in [RFC3168]. > > The following enumerated values are supported: > > limited(0) - Limited ECN support > > fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support > Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB=20 > object follow the same rule." =20 > REFERENCE =20 > "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC = 5415." =20 > =20 > > > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE > > SYNTAX Counter32 > > MAX-ACCESS read-only > > STATUS current > > DESCRIPTION > > "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at = the > > request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change in > > configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit = CAPWAP > > protocol reset request. A value of 65535 implies that = this > > information is not available on the WTP." > > REFERENCE > > "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC = 5415. > " > > ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 } > > > > I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like > the > > 65535) > > to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the > > semantics for > > the > > Counter32 SYNTAX. > > > > NOPE, not acceptable. A Counter cannot have special values!!!! > See the descritpion of Counter32 in RFC2578! > > > Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount > > and possibly others, pls check and make sure. > > [Richard] > It follows the RFC5415. > How about update the text with: > According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this > information is not available on the WTP. > > Nope, you CANNOT use a Counter32 for that, see RFC2578 > > > In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that > > some (or all) > > of > > the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! > > [Richard] > In fact, I don't understand why it is required? > The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and > The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. 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     Hi, Bert:<= /p>

 

        Please check my comments in line (under //////).

 

       Regards

       Richard

 

-----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE-----<= br> =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Bert Wij= nen (IETF) [mailto:bertietf@bwijnen.net]
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 20= 09=C4=EA12=D4=C28=C8=D5 6:12
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: young
=B3=AD=CB=CD: MIB Doctors (E= -mail); capwap@frascone.com
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: Thanks for= your guidance and quick response

 

OK, some advuise:=

 

[Bert]

W: f(capwap-base.= mi2), (851,17) Item "capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress" should have S= IZE specified

 

I then look at:

   = ;  capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress  OBJECT-TYPE
          SYNTAX      PhysAddress<= /p>

   = ;       MAX-ACCESS  read-only
          STATUS      current
          DESCRIPTION
            "Represents t= he WTP's Base MAC Address, which MAY be
             assigned to = the primary Ethernet interface."
          REFERENCE
            "Section 4.6.40. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
          ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 4 }

 

Then I first get = confused by the term "WtpBaseMacAddress, because I

think of a 48 byte Etehrnet Mac addres. If I then read rfc5415, sect 4.6.30,

I then read there= is a VendorID of 32 bits, and then a Board Data Subelement

(of size 32 plus = max 1024), then the min size seems to be 64, buit probably somewhat

more. The max len= gth seems to be 64+1024 is 1088. But there is also talk about

the fact that the= re can be multiple subelements. It does not say how many.

So I am left very confused as to what the SIZE of the MIB object can be.

 

So.... I think it= is very good that SMICng complained and warned that a SIZE

must be specified= . It is up to the CAPWAP WG to define that SIZE, as I cannot

determin it from = the cited paragraph in RFC5415.

 ////////////

[Richard]<= /p>

Yes, the size cou= ld be specified.

I guest you misun= derstood it. In fact, the capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress 

is only correspon= ding to the  " 4 -   Base MAC Address" in the Board data <= /span>=A3=A8RFC5415=A3=A9. <= /p>

 

According to the = following text in the RFC5415=A3=ACThe MAC Address is  EUI-48 [EUI-48] or EUI-64.

CAPWAP implementations MUST su=
pport certificates where the common
    name (CN) for both the WTP and AC is the MAC =
address of that device.
    The MAC address MUST be encoded in the Printa=
bleString format, using
    the well-recognized MAC address format of 01:=
23:45:67:89:ab.  The CN
    field MAY contain either of the EUI-48 [EUI-4=
8] or EUI-64 [EUI-64]

MAC Address forma= ts.

 

W: f(capwap-base.= mi2), (974,17) Item "capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress" should have SIZE specified

 

Same story/comment/questions/confusion

////////////

 [Richard] same as above.

 


W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (2038,17) Item "capwapBaseNtfStationIdList" should have SIZE specified

 

Again, I cannot f= ind what a reasonable SIZE would be. CAPWAP WG, pls think about

this and decide. = The MAX length is 64K, but that will not be very sueful with SNMP.

You may want to m= ake it (much) smaller.

////////////

 [Richard] I discussed it with Yong, and suggest SIZE is 1024.

 

 

//////

I would check the follow= ing comments later.


W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" does= not have a consistent indexing sche
me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only
one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry

 

The INDEX is as f= ollows:

 

   = ; INDEX {
      capwapBaseWtpCurrId,
      capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId,
      capwapBaseStationId
    }

 

The first one is = the first index in another table

The second one is= the 2nd index in yet another table

The 3rd one is an= index (the 3rd one) in this table capwapBaseStaionTable.

 

That is indeed so= me sort of weird indexing. So that is why SMICng gives a warning.

It does not mean = it is absolutely a fatal error. But it would be good that the CAPWAP

WG checks if this= is indeed the indexing they intended and wanted.

 


W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does not have a consistent ind
exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry<= /span>

 

Here the index ob= jects are:

 

   = ; INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId }

 

That loks better,= but again the the 2nd index is a 2nd index object in another

table that gets a= dded as the 2nd index here. Pls make sure this is what the

WG intends and wa= nts and that the indexing makes sense.

 

 

For these "d= oes not have a consistent indexing scheme" warnings, it would be good to add

some comment line= s to the MIB module that explain why this indexing is OK/INTENDED.

Something like:

 

   = ; -- The following indexing is intended because we want to show a table that<= /font>

   = ; -- ... here you text ...

   = ; INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId }

 

That way, when th= e SYNTAX check is done, and the MIB doctor checks the MIB module,

then he can see t= he explanation and see that the indexing is indeed intended and nit

inconsistent by a= ccident.

 

 

More later=

 

Bert

 

----- Original Me= ssage -----

= To: young

= Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:46 AM

= Subject: Re: Thanks for your guidance and quick response

 

OK Richard,

I will try to compose some advise tonight or Tuesday evening (European
time).

Bert


young wrote:
> Hi, Bert:
>
> Thanks for your guidance and quick response.
> David Perkins disappeared from the CAPWAP mailing list, and has not pu= t
> effort in the MIB drafts for some time. I guessed he is very busy with other
> things.
> I wonder when would he get back to IETF community?
> I have to ask your guidance and help.
>
> Regards
> Richard
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:19:05 = +0800
> From: Richard <rishyang@gmail= .com>
> Subject: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks
> To: bertietf@bwijnen.net > Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, = capwap@frascone.com
> Message-ID:
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> Hi, Bert:
>
> Thanks for your comments.  Most comments are clear to me,
> while some of them need your guidance.
> Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in details.
> Please check my comments identified by [Richard].
>
>  
>> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry&q= uot;
>> does not have a
>> consistent indexing sche
>> me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row&q= uot;
>> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only
>> one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry >>    
>
> [Richard]
> I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and let me know
> how to fix it (if possiable).
>
>  
>> W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row
>> "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does
>> not have a consistent ind
>> exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "= base
>>    
> row"
>  
>> capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
>> have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
>>    
> [Richard]
>  Same as the above one.
>
>
>  
>> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE
>>     SYNTAX      INTEG= ER {
>>           &= nbsp;       limited(0),
>>           &= nbsp;       fullAndLimited(1)
>>           &= nbsp;     }
>>     MAX-ACCESS  read-create
>>     STATUS      curre= nt
>>
>> Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero,
>>    
> unless
>  
>> there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the DESCRIPTI= ON
>> clause).
>> So... what is the reason?
>>
>> Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
>> And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
>> And possibly others!! pls check.
>>    
> [Richard]
> The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero.
> So how about the description updated in the following way?
> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE
>     SYNTAX      INTEGER {=
>            = ;       limited(0),
>            = ;       fullAndLimited(1)
>            = ;     }
>     MAX-ACCESS  read-create
>     STATUS      current >     DESCRIPTION
>         "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion
> Notification
>          (ECN) bits, as defined in
> [RFC3168].
>          The following enumerated values are
> supported:
>            limited(0)        - Limited ECN
> support
>            fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support
>          Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB
>          object follow the same rule."
>     REFERENCE
>         "Section 4.6.25. = of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
>
>
>  
>> capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE
>>     SYNTAX      Count= er32
>>     MAX-ACCESS  read-only
>>     STATUS      curre= nt
>>     DESCRIPTION
>>         "Represents t= he number of reboots that have occurred at the
>>          request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change in
>>          configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit CAPWAP
>>          protocol res= et request.  A value of 65535 implies that this
>>          information = is not available on the WTP."
>>     REFERENCE
>>         "Section 4.6.= 47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415.
>>    
> "
>  
>>     ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 }<= br> >>
>> I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like=
>>    
> the
>  
>> 65535)
>> to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the
>> semantics for
>> the
>> Counter32 SYNTAX.
>>
>> Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount
>> and possibly others, pls check and make sure.
>>    
>
> [Richard]
> It follows the RFC5415.
> How about update the text with:
> According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that this
> information is not available on the WTP.
>
>  
>> In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that
>> some (or all)
>> of
>> the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!!
>>    
>
> [Richard]
> In fact, I don't understand why it is required?
> The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and > The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no
> special requirement to the IF-MIB.
> Please let me know what should be done here?
>
> Regards
> Richard
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> From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" <bertietf@bwijnen.net>
> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks
> To: "Richard" <rish= yang@gmail.com>
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Richard
>   To: bertietf@bwijn= en.net
>   Cc: mib-doctors@ie= tf.org ; capwap@frascone.com
>   Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009<= /span> 2:19 PM >   Subject: Please check my (Richard) comments, thanks
>
>
>   Hi, Bert:
>
>   Thanks for your comments.  Most comments are clear to= me,
>   while some of them need your guidance.
>   Once I am clear, I would send out all the modification in details.
>   Please check my comments identified by [Richard].
>   > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry"
>   > does not have a
>   > consistent indexing sche
>   > me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row"
>   > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only
>   > one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
>
>   [Richard]
>   I don't understand the problem. Kindly explain more and le= t me know
>   how to fix it (if possiable).
>
>
>
> The SMICng syntax checker is VERY strict on these things.
> If you are 100% sure you want to index as you do, then it may be OK. > I advise to check with your co-editor/author David Perkins, who is
> also the author of SMICng!!!!!
>
>   > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row
>   > "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does
>   > not have a consistent ind
>   > exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base
>   row"
>   > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
>   > have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
>
>   [Richard]
>    Same as the above one.
>
>
> same as above
>
>   > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE
>   >     SYNTAX      INTEGER {
>   >            = ;       limited(0),
>   >            = ;       fullAndLimited(1)
>   >            = ;     }
>   >     MAX-ACCESS  read-create<= br> >   >     STATUS      current
>   >
>   > Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start = with zero,
>   unless
>   > there is a good reason (which we then like to see in = the DESCRIPTION
>   > clause).
>   > So... what is the reason?
>   >
>   > Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
>   > And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
>   > And possibly others!! pls check.
>
> I do no tfind the arguments strong, but I can live with it
>
>
>   [Richard]
>   The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero.
>   So how about the description updated in the following way?=
>   capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE
>       SYNTAX    &nbs= p; INTEGER {            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;  
>            = ;         limited(0),          &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;    
>            = ;         fullAndLimited(1)
>
>            = ;       }            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;  
>       MAX-ACCESS  read-create          &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;    
>       STATUS    &nbs= p; current           &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;   
>       DESCRIPTION          &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;     
>           "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion Notification
>
>            (ECN) bits, as defined in [RFC3168].
>
>            The following enumerated values are supported:
>
>            = ;  limited(0)        - Limited ECN support<= br> >
>            = ;  fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support
>            Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB
>            obje= ct follow the same rule."          &nbs= p;            
>       REFERENCE           =             &nb= sp;            =     
>           "Sect= ion 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." 
>          
>
>   > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE
>   >     SYNTAX      Counter32
>   >     MAX-ACCESS  read-only
>   >     STATUS      current
>   >     DESCRIPTION
>   >         "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at the
>   >          request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change in
>   >          configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit CAPWAP
>   >          protocol reset request.  A value of 65535 implies that this
>   >          information is not available on the WTP."
>   >     REFERENCE
>   >         "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415.
>   "
>   >     ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 }
>   >
>   > I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like
>   the
>   > 65535)
>   > to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible g= iven the
>   > semantics for
>   > the
>   > Counter32 SYNTAX.
>   >
>
> NOPE, not acceptable. A Counter cannot have special values!!!!
> See the descritpion of Counter32 in RFC2578!
>
>   > Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount
>   > and possibly others, pls check and make sure.
>
>   [Richard]
>   It follows the RFC5415.
>   How about update the text with:
>   According to the RFC 5415, a value of 65535 implies that t= his
>   information is not available on the WTP.
>
> Nope, you CANNOT use a Counter32 for that, see RFC2578
>
>   > In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at le= ast that
>   > some (or all)
>   > of
>   > the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!!
>
>   [Richard]
>   In fact, I don't understand why it is required?
>   The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and
>   The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no
>   special requirement to the IF-MIB.
>   Please let me know what should be done here?
>
>
>
> I could try to work it out for you...
> However, I am sure that you co-author, co-editor David Perkins knows w= hat
> needs
> to be done!
>
> Bert
>
>   Regards
>   Richard
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Bert young wrote: > Hi, All: > > If it is ok, I would follow the Dan's suggestion. > The new text would be: > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX Counter32 > MAX-ACCESS read-only > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred due to a > WTP crash. > Note that the CAPWAP field [RFC 5415] modelled by this counter > takes the value 65535 to indicate that the information is not > available > on the WTP. This MIB object does not follow this behaviour which > would not be standard in SMIv2. If the WTP does not have the > information, > the agent will not instantiate the object." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." > ::= { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 1 } > > Same change would be done to the capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount. > > Regards > Richard > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Dec 8 00:47:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A269E3A67AA for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 00:47:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: 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Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:47:12 +0100 Message-ID: <4B1E128F.1010007@bwijnen.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:47:11 +0100 From: "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: young References: <00ab01ca77dc$af685040$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> In-Reply-To: <00ab01ca77dc$af685040$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd4d5ee3f3de872664beb5bf786a91651a5 Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com, 'Yong Zhang' Subject: Re: [Capwap] My(Richard) comments to the object size issues X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com 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List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Bert draws me the attention on a few more issues related to the CAPWAP MIB that I believe deserve attention: 1. Unsigned32s is used in a number of place where possibly a Gauge is better (limited integer that can increase or decrease between a min and max limit) - capwapBaseWtpSessions, capwapBaseWtpSessionsLimit, capwapBaseStationSessions, capwapBaseStationSessionsLimit, capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpMaxDiscoveryInterval, capwapBaseWtpRadiosInUseNum, capwapBaseWtpRadioNumLimit, capwapBaseWtpDataChannelDeadInterval, capwapBaseAcWaitDTLSTimer, capwapBaseAcWaitJoinTimer, 2. In many TCs and objects the enumerations (INTEGER type) start from value zero. I think that this was discussed during the AD review, and the answer was that it is so on purpose to be consistent with the values carried in the CAPWAP protocol fields. I think that this needs to be explained in the DESCRIPTION clauses of the TCs and respective objects. 3.. There are proper details in the DESCRIPTION clauses of InetAddress objects as to which object defines the format... it is probably logical, but it ought to be documented 4. There is no description in RowStatus objects as to which writable objects can be changed when a row is active (if any). Also, please address the IANA question in the review of draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib QUESTION: What should we use in the "name" field for the two ifType assignments? 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Dec 8 11:58:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B6A3A690C for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:58:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_102=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id abyw5J6GsVxe for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD093A694A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C9DE1819F for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B96E240CA for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F32F3610006 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:57:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA2C3610002 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:57:47 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (yozhang@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-pz0-f179.google.com (mail-pz0-f179.google.com [209.85.222.179]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9so4870048pzk.16 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:57:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.163.16 with SMTP id l16mr221219wae.39.1260302267090; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:57:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:57:47 -0800 Message-ID: From: Yong Zhang To: "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" Cc: young , capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Capwap Digest, Vol 49, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Bert, The "8-bit" in RFC5415 4.6.25 ECN Support just means the size of "ECN Support", does not means it is BITS type. In the RFC5415/5416. when bits are used, there always a diagram which shows the bit position. 0 - Limited ECN Support 1 - Full and Limited ECN Support For ECN support, if it is defined as a bit, then 1 should be Full ECN Support only. There is a lot of capwap variables are defined using enumerated value start from 0, such as 4.6.21. Discovery Type, 4.6.34. Radio Operational State, 4.6.44. WTP MAC Type... Just think using the same values as what defined in the capwap protocol will make the MIB easier to use. Do you know any widely used protocol/mib that redefined the enumerated values in the MIB? If that is a convention way, we can change our MIB definition. Thanks! Yong On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:26 PM, wrote: > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0capwap@frascone.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0capwap-request@frascone.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0capwap-owner@frascone.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > =A0 1. Re: Thanks for your guidance and quick response > =A0 =A0 =A0(Bert Wijnen (IETF)) > =A0 2. Re: Thanks for your guidance and quick response > =A0 =A0 =A0(Bert Wijnen (IETF)) > =A0 3. Re: [Gen-art] Please check the comments to the issues of =A0the > =A0 =A0 =A0MIB drafts (Black_David@emc.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:18:14 +0100 > From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" > Subject: Re: [Capwap] Thanks for your guidance and quick response > To: "young" > Cc: "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0capwap@frascone.com > Message-ID: <9B311E4130314C6CB374C282316E5535@BertLaptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"gb2312" > > More detail W.r.t. my comments on this: > >>> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE >>> =A0 =A0 SYNTAX =A0 =A0 =A0INTEGER { >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 limited(0), >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 fullAndLimited(1) >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 } >>> =A0 =A0 MAX-ACCESS =A0read-create >>> =A0 =A0 STATUS =A0 =A0 =A0current >>> >>> Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, >>> unless >>> there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the DESCRIPTION >>> clause). >>> So... what is the reason? >>> > > You point to RFC5415 sect 4..6.25, where I read: > > =A0 The ECN Support message element is sent by both the WTP and the AC to > =A0 indicate their support for the Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) > =A0 bits, as defined in [RFC3168]. > > =A0 =A0 =A00 > =A0 =A0 =A00 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 > =A0 =A0 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > =A0 =A0 | =A0ECN Support =A0| > =A0 =A0 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > =A0 Type: =A0 53 for ECN Support > > =A0 Length: =A0 1 > > =A0 ECN Support: =A0 An 8-bit value representing the sender's support for > =A0 =A0 =A0ECN, as defined in [RFC3168]. =A0All CAPWAP Implementations MU= ST > =A0 =A0 =A0support the Limited ECN Support mode. =A0Full ECN Support is u= sed if > =A0 =A0 =A0both the WTP and AC advertise the capability for "Full and Lim= ited > =A0 =A0 =A0ECN" Support; otherwise, Limited ECN Support is used. > > =A0 =A0 =A00 - =A0Limited ECN Support > > =A0 =A0 =A01 - =A0Full and Limited ECN Support > > > So from that, I do not see why you could not change your enumeration at 1. > Bit zero is not a zero value, and bit 1 is not a 1 value. They represent = the > values 8 and 4, and so you have to convert them anyways to go into the > MIB OBJECT. So I would RECOMMEND to do > > > =A0capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE > =A0 =A0 SYNTAX =A0 =A0 =A0INTEGER { > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 limited(1), > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 fullAndLimited(2) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 } > =A0 =A0 MAX-ACCESS =A0read-create > =A0 =A0 STATUS =A0 =A0 =A0current > > > > >>> Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType >>> And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType >>> And possibly others!! pls check. >>> >> [Richard] >> The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. >> So how about the description updated in the following way? >> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE >> =A0 =A0 SYNTAX =A0 =A0 =A0INTEGER { >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 limited(0), >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 fullAndLimited(1) >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 } >> =A0 =A0 MAX-ACCESS =A0read-create >> =A0 =A0 STATUS =A0 =A0 =A0current >> =A0 =A0 DESCRIPTION >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion >> Notification >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(ECN) bits, as defined in >> [RFC3168]. >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0The following enumerated values are >> supported: >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0limited(0) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- Limited ECN >> support >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, th= e MIB >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0object follow the same rule." >> =A0 =A0 REFERENCE >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5= 415." >> > > See above!!! > > Bert > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/attachments/20091207/629e= e0c2/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:38:13 +0100 > From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" > Subject: Re: [Capwap] Thanks for your guidance and quick response > To: "young" > Cc: "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0capwap@frascone.com > Message-ID: <2BA2820C22DB479C860FDFFE07933D5A@BertLaptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"gb2312" > > more details/advise about my commet: > > =A0> In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that > =A0> some (or all) of the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! > > =A0[Richard] > =A0In fact, I don't understand why it is required? > =A0The ifGeneralInformationGroup in the IF-MIB module is mandatory, and > =A0The CAPWAP-BASE-MIB relies on the IF-MIB. There are no > =A0special requirement to the IF-MIB. > =A0Please let me know what should be done here? > Section 7.2 of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06.txt states that > =A0 =A0 =A0 The IF-MIB module is required to be supported on the AC. > > So when I see a MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected something like: > > capwapBaseCompliance MODULE-COMPLIANCE > =A0 STATUS current > =A0 DESCRIPTION > =A0 =A0 =A0 "Describes the requirements for conformance to the > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0CAPWAP-BASE-MIB module." > > =A0 MODULE =A0IF-MIB > =A0 =A0 =A0 MANDATORY-GROUPS { > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0some mandatory groups from the IF-MIB, possibly al= l? > =A0 =A0 =A0 } > =A0 ... potentially some optional groups from IF-MIB as well? > > =A0 ... and then follow the MANDATORY GROUPS of THIS MODULE (the CAPWAP-B= ASE-MIB module) > > =A0 MODULE -- this module > =A0 =A0 MANDATORY-GROUPS { > =A0 =A0 =A0 capwapBaseAcNodeGroup, > =A0 =A0 =A0 capwapBaseWtpProfileGroup, > =A0 =A0 =A0 capwapBaseWtpStateGroup, > =A0 =A0 =A0 capwapBaseWtpGroup, > =A0 =A0 =A0 capwapBaseRadioGroup, > =A0 =A0 =A0 capwapBaseStationGroup > =A0 =A0 } > > > For an example, see RFC3811, but also RFC3289 > > But then, maybe if indeed the WHOLE IF-MIB MUST be supported, then just s= tating that > may be OK. > > Bert > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/attachments/20091207/a81e= fa69/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:24:03 -0500 > From: > Subject: Re: [Capwap] [Gen-art] Please check the comments to the > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0issues of =A0 =A0 =A0 the MIB drafts > To: , , , > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0, , , > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > Cc: capwap@frascone.com, Black_David@emc.com > Message-ID: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > Content-Type: text/plain; =A0 =A0 =A0 charset=3D"gb2312" > > I see two items that I need to comment on: > > (1) > >> How about: physical layer (PHY) in the place where it first appears? > > Ok, that will suffice. > > (2) > >> [David] >> The first bullet in 5.1 implies that all management of a WTP is via this >> MIB. =A0OTOH, The first bullet in 5.4 says that the MIB is optional for a >> WTP. =A0The combination allows unmanaged WTPs - I don't think that was w= hat >> was intended, rather the basic level of WTP management is in the CAPWAP >> protocol itself, and the MIB adds additional management functionality. >> ------------------------- >> [Richard] 5.1 is to explain the function. 5.4 (the MIB is optional for a >> WTP) is to explain that SNMP agent is not REQUIRED on the WTP devices. >> If you feel is not clear, kindly suggest how to updates the text. > > I think one small change in Section 5.1 will suffice: > > OLD > =A0 - Support centralized management and monitoring of WTPs from the AC; > > NEW > =A0 - Support centralized management and monitoring of WTPs from the AC in > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0combination with the CAPWAP protocol; > > Thanks, > --David > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gen-art-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:gen-art-bounces@ietf.org] On Beha= lf Of young >> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:45 PM >> To: Black, David; yzhang@fortinet.com; gen-art@ietf.org; mrw@lilacglade.= org; dromasca@avaya.com; >> chelliot@gmail.com; dperkins3600@gmail.com >> Cc: dorothy.gellert@gmail.com; capwap@frascone.com; mmani@avaya.com >> Subject: [Gen-art] Please check the comments to the issues of the MIB dr= afts >> >> Hi, All: >> >> Please check the left issues. >> My new comments are under "---------" >> Some issues need the guidance from Dan or Margaret. >> BTW, the email address of David Perkins and Chris are updated in the >> reception address. >> >> > [Richard] It is a very general conception. >> > I checked the RFC5415, it does not give the definition of PHY. >> > How about: physical layer (PHY) in the place where it first appears? >> > I am ok with adding a definition of PHY if it is a better solution. >> [David] I think a definition is preferable. =A0For wired Ethernet, the P= HY is >> a >> specific piece of functionality (can be in a separate chip) that sits >> between the transceiver and the Ethernet controller. =A0The PHY definiti= on >> in this draft needs to indicate whether the term covers only this area >> of functionality vs. covers the entire physical layer including the >> transceivers and communication medium (e.g., radio transceivers, >> antennas and wireless signals in this case). >> ------------------------- >> [Richard] >> Frankly, it is difficult for me to give an accurate definition to the PH= Y. >> The better way is to get it from the existing standards. >> I checked the IEEE 802.11-2007. It does not give the definition there. >> See (copy from IEEE 802.11-2007): >> 1.1 Scope >> The scope of this standard is to define one medium access control (MAC) = and >> several physical layer (PHY) >> specifications for wireless connectivity for fixed, portable, and moving >> stations (STAs) within a local area. >> So I suggest: >> How about: physical layer (PHY) in the place where it first appears? >> >> > > Section 5.1 should explain the division of management of a WTP betwe= en >> > > the actual CAPWAP protocol and this MIB. =A0The first bullet creates >> > > this confusion, and that bullet is not consistent with the first >> > > bullet in 5.4. =A0That lack of consistency =A0should be corrected in >> > > addition to providing the explanation. >> > [Richard] I did not get the point. Kindly give more input >> [David] >> The first bullet in 5.1 implies that all management of a WTP is via this >> MIB. =A0OTOH, The first bullet in 5.4 says that the MIB is optional for a >> WTP. =A0The combination allows unmanaged WTPs - I don't think that was w= hat >> was intended, rather the basic level of WTP management is in the CAPWAP >> protocol itself, and the MIB adds additional management functionality. >> ------------------------- >> [Richard] 5.1 is to explain the function. 5.4 (the MIB is optional for a >> WTP) is to explain that SNMP agent is not REQUIRED on the WTP devices. >> If you feel is not clear, kindly suggest how to updates the text. >> Thanks. >> To Dan: Please give your option. >> >> > > [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415. =A0That's n= ot a >> > > good idea for an Informational document. =A0It is ok to say that if = the >> > > additional requirements are not followed, this MIB will not be useful >> > > or usable. >> > [Richard] >> > The WG already made the consensus on it after IETF 75th, >> > and the WG agree to use the following text. >> > The section 4.6.40 [RFC5415] does not clarify that the WTP's Base MAC >> > =A0address MUST be included in the WTP Board Data message element. =A0= This >> > =A0is a known errata item and assumed to be fixed in future by >> > the editors of >> > the RFC5415. >> [David] >> Make sure that this errata item is filed against RFC 5415 with the RFC >> Editor. >> ------------------------- >> [Richard] Dan or Margaret please confirm it. >> >> > > [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the MIB >> > > definitions, most of which are not called out in this review. I >> > > strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of English >> > > prior to IESG Review. =A0Here's an example from Section >> > >> > [Richard] Margaret or Dan, please consider how to handle it. >> > For the text, I can't do better job than a native speaker of English:( >> >> [David] Understood - I would hope that one of your co-authors would step= up >> to >> do this. >> ------------------------- >> [Richard] I am not sure that David Perkins or Chris could put effort on = it. >> So Dan or Margaret please consider how to handle it. >> >> > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a MIB >> > > draft? =A0MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the protocol t= hat >> > > they provide management for. =A0This section, and the changes in Sec= tion >> > > 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be standards track. >> > >> ---------------------------------- >> David, Dan or Margaret, Please check the following text. >> > [Richard] =A0Margaret or Dan, please confirm whether it is allowed to = have >> > the Message Element Extension in the MIB drafts. >> > The "manageable" in the current text "To enable CAPWAP protocol timers= and >> > variables [RFC5415] manageable =A0through CAPWAP protocol" is not very >> clear. >> > Maybe the word "viewable " is better. >> > How =A0about we use the text =A0"To enable CAPWAP protocol timers and >> variables >> > [RFC5415] viewable on the AC through CAPWAP protocol" ? >> > >> > Since the MIB objects (such as "capwapBaseAcMaxRetransmit" ) correspon= ding >> > to the CAPWAP protocol timers and variables are optional, whether it is >> > required to add some text >> > in the Section 9 to clarify that the CAPWAP Message Element >> > Extension is optional? >> >> Regards >> Richard >> -----????----- >> ???: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] >> ????: 2009?12?1? 10:53 >> ???: young@h3c.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; yzhang@fortinet.com; >> gen-art@ietf.org; mrw@lilacglade.org; dromasca@avaya.com >> ??: mmani@avaya.com; dorothy.gellert@gmail.com; capwap@frascone.com; >> Black_David@emc.com >> ??: RE: My (Richard) comments to the Gen-ART review of >> draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06 >> >> Richard, >> >> Comments embedded ... >> >> Thanks, >> --David >> >> > Hi, All : >> > >> > Please check my comments identified by the [Richard]. >> > To David: Thanks a lot. >> > >> > > The important open issues that need to be resolved are tagged with [= *]. >> > > >> > > [*] Intended document status is now Informational. =A0That needs to = be >> > > changed on the title page, but more importantly, someone (draft >> > > shepherd?) should double-check whether the requested IANA allocations >> > > are appropriate for an Informational document. If there's a problem >> > > here, the IESG should be warned that a process exception may be >> > > needed, as I think the allocations are necessary for this draft. >> > >> > [Richard] Margaret or Dan, please confirm it. >> >> Dan's working on it. >> >> > > [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the MIB >> > > definitions, most of which are not called out in this review. I >> > > strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of English >> > > prior to IESG Review. =A0Here's an example from Section >> > >> > [Richard] Margaret or Dan, please consider how to handle it. >> > For the text, I can't do better job than a native speaker of English:( >> >> Understood - I would hope that one of your co-authors would step up to >> do this. >> >> > > 5.6 - the use of the word "conception" is incorrect in this phrase: >> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0the protocol of [RFC5416] defines WLAN conception >> > > A better word would be "creation". >> > >> > [Richard] Hi, David. =A0Whether "management" instead of "creation" is >> > better? >> >> I think that's ok. >> >> > > Terminology section: >> > > - Add a definition of PHY, it's undefined in this document. >> > >> > [Richard] =A0It is a very general conception. >> > I checked the RFC5415, it does not give the definition of PHY. >> > How about: physical layer (PHY) in the place where it first appears? >> > I am ok with adding a definition of PHY if it is a better solution. >> >> I think a definition is preferable. =A0For wired Ethernet, the PHY is a >> specific piece of functionality (can be in a separate chip) that sits >> between the transceiver and the Ethernet controller. =A0The PHY definiti= on >> in this draft needs to indicate whether the term covers only this area >> of functionality vs. covers the entire physical layer including the >> transceivers and communication medium (e.g., radio transceivers, >> antennas and wireless signals in this case). >> >> > > - Add a definition of WLAN, while it's defined elsewhere, WLAN >> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0is a crucial concept for this draft and hence needs a >> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0definition here. >> > [Richard] I am ok. >> > >> > > - The definition of station (STA) is sufficiently general to >> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0include WTPs. =A0Was that intended? >> > >> > [Richard] I got the definition?of station (STA) and WTP from RFC5415. >> >> Then I presume this was intended. >> >> > > Section 5.1 should explain the division of management of a WTP betwe= en >> > > the actual CAPWAP protocol and this MIB. =A0The first bullet creates >> > > this confusion, and that bullet is not consistent with the first >> > > bullet in 5.4. =A0That lack of consistency =A0should be corrected in >> > > addition to providing the explanation. >> > [Richard] =A0I did not get the point. Kindly give more input >> >> The first bullet in 5.1 implies that all management of a WTP is via this >> MIB. =A0OTOH, The first bullet in 5.4 says that the MIB is optional for a >> WTP. =A0The combination allows unmanaged WTPs - I don't think that was w= hat >> was intended, rather the basic level of WTP management is in the CAPWAP >> protocol itself, and the MIB adds additional management functionality. >> >> > > Section 5.4: "The ifIndex [RFC2863] is used as a common handler" I >> > > don't think it's a "handler". =A0The ifIndex is actually an index. >> > [Richard] =A0How about use "index" instead of "handler". >> >> Ok. >> >> > > [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415. =A0That's n= ot a >> > > good idea for an Informational document. =A0It is ok to say that if = the >> > > additional requirements are not followed, this MIB will not be useful >> > > or usable. >> > [Richard] >> > The WG already made the consensus on it after IETF 75th, >> > and the WG agree to use the following text. >> > The section 4.6.40 [RFC5415] does not clarify that the WTP's Base MAC >> > =A0address MUST be included in the WTP Board Data message element. =A0= This >> > =A0is a known errata item and assumed to be fixed in future by >> > the editors of >> > the RFC5415. >> >> Make sure that this errata item is filed against RFC 5415 with the RFC >> Editor. >> >> > >> > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a MIB >> > > draft? =A0MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the protocol t= hat >> > > they provide management for. =A0This section, and the changes in Sec= tion >> > > 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be standards track. >> > >> > [Richard] =A0Margaret or Dan, please confirm whether it is allowed to = have >> > the Message Element Extension in the MIB drafts. >> > The "manageable" in the current text "To enable CAPWAP protocol timers= and >> > variables [RFC5415] manageable =A0through CAPWAP protocol" is not very >> clear. >> > Maybe the word "viewable " is better. >> > How =A0about we use the text =A0"To enable CAPWAP protocol timers and >> variables >> > [RFC5415] viewable on the AC through CAPWAP protocol" ? >> > >> > Since the MIB objects (such as "capwapBaseAcMaxRetransmit" ) correspon= ding >> > to the CAPWAP protocol timers and variables are optional, whether it is >> > required to add some text >> > in the Section 9 to clarify that the CAPWAP Message Element >> > Extension is optional? >> > >> > > Appendix A (change history) should include a request to the RFC Edit= or >> > > to remove it before publication of the RFC. >> > [Richard] It is ok. >> > >> > > idnits 2.11.15 found a couple of nits: >> > > >> > > =A0=3D=3D The document seems to lack a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378 wo= rk, but >> was >> > > =A0 =A0 first submitted before 10 November 2008. =A0Should you add t= he >> disclaimer? >> > > =A0 =A0 (See the Legal Provisions document at >> > > =A0 =A0 http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info for more information.). >> > >> > [Richard] It is ok. >> > >> > > =A0=3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-05) exists of >> > > =A0 =A0 draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04 >> > >> > [Richard] It is ok. >> > >> > The following recipient(s) could not be reached: >> > >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 chelliot@cisco.com on 11/25/2009 7:43 PM >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The e-mail system was unable to deliver the >> > message, but did not >> > report a specific reason. =A0Check the address and try again. >> > If it still >> > fails, contact your system administrator. >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 < sj-inbound-d.cisco.com #5.0.0 smtp; 5.1.0 - >> > Unknown address >> > error 550-'5.1.1 ... User unknown' (delivery >> > attempts: 0)> >> > >> > [Richard] I am not able get the Chris' other email address. >> > Do the chairs or the mailing list know his other email address except = the >> > chelliot@cisco.com? >> > >> > Regards >> > Richard >> > >> > -----????----- >> > ???: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] >> > ????: 2009?11?26? 8:48 >> > ???: young@h3c.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; yzhang@fortinet.com; >> > gen-art@ietf.org >> > ??: mmani@avaya.com; dorothy.gellert@gmail.com; mrw@lilacglade.org; >> > dromasca@avaya.com; capwap@frascone.com; Black_David@emc.com >> > ??: RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06 >> > >> > Another open issue is that the email address for Chris Elliott >> > in this draft is wrong and needs to be corrected ... >> > >> > The following recipient(s) could not be reached: >> > >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 chelliot@cisco.com on 11/25/2009 7:43 PM >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The e-mail system was unable to deliver the >> > message, but did >> > not report a specific reason. =A0Check the address and try again. =A0I= f it >> > still fails, contact your system administrator. >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 < sj-inbound-d.cisco.com #5.0.0 smtp; 5.1.0 - = Unknown >> > address error 550-'5.1.1 ... User >> > unknown' (delivery >> > attempts: 0)> >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > --David >> > >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Black, David >> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:43 PM >> > > To: young@h3c.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; chelliot@cisco.com; >> > > yzhang@fortinet.com; gen-art@ietf.org >> > > Cc: Black, David; mmani@avaya.com; dorothy.gellert@gmail.com; >> > > mrw@lilacglade.org; Dan (Dan) Romascanu; capwap@frascone.com >> > > Subject: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06 >> > > >> > > I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) >> > > reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see >> > > http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). >> > > >> > > Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call >> > > comments you may receive. >> > > >> > > Document: draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06 >> > > Reviewer: David L. Black >> > > Review Date: November 25, 2009 >> > > IETF LC End Date: December 7, 2009 >> > > >> > > Summary: >> > > This draft is on the right track, but has open issues, described >> > > in the review. >> > > >> > > Comments: >> > > This draft defines a MIB for the CAPWAP protocol. =A0It also extends >> > > that protocol, which is a peculiar thing to do in a MIB document. >> > > I've left review of the actual MIB definitions to the expertise >> > > of the MIB Doctors. >> > > >> > > The important open issues that need to be resolved are tagged >> > > with [*]. >> > > >> > > [*] Intended document status is now Informational. =A0That needs to >> > > be changed on the title page, but more importantly, someone >> > > (draft shepherd?) should double-check whether the requested >> > > IANA allocations are appropriate for an Informational document. >> > > If there's a problem here, the IESG should be warned that a >> > > process exception may be needed, as I think the allocations are >> > > necessary for this draft. >> > > >> > > [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the >> > > MIB definitions, most of which are not called out in this review. >> > > I strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of >> > > English prior to IESG Review. =A0Here's an example from Section >> > > 5.6 - the use of the word "conception" is incorrect in this phrase: >> > > =A0 the protocol of [RFC5416] defines WLAN conception >> > > A better word would be "creation". >> > > >> > > Terminology section: >> > > - Add a definition of PHY, it's undefined in this document. >> > > - Add a definition of WLAN, while it's defined elsewhere, WLAN >> > > =A0 is a crucial concept for this draft and hence needs a >> > > =A0 definition here. >> > > - The definition of station (STA) is sufficiently general to >> > > =A0 include WTPs. =A0Was that intended? >> > > >> > > Section 5.1 should explain the division of management of a >> > > WTP between the actual CAPWAP protocol and this MIB. =A0The >> > > first bullet creates this confusion, and that bullet is not >> > > consistent with the first bullet in 5.4. =A0That lack of >> > > consistency =A0should be corrected in addition to providing >> > > the explanation. >> > > >> > > Section 5.4: "The ifIndex [RFC2863] is used as a common handler" >> > > I don't think it's a "handler". =A0The ifIndex is actually an index. >> > > >> > > [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415. =A0That's >> > > not a good idea for an Informational document. =A0It is ok to >> > > say that if the additional requirements are not followed, this >> > > MIB will not be useful or usable. >> > > >> > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a >> > > MIB draft? =A0MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the >> > > protocol that they provide management for. =A0This section, and >> > > the changes in Section 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft >> > > that could be standards track. >> > > >> > > Appendix A (change history) should include a request to the >> > > RFC Editor to remove it before publication of the RFC. >> > > >> > > idnits 2.11.15 found a couple of nits: >> > > >> > > =A0 =3D=3D The document seems to lack a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378 >> > > work, but was >> > > =A0 =A0 =A0first submitted before 10 November 2008. =A0Should you add >> > > the disclaimer? >> > > =A0 =A0 =A0(See the Legal Provisions document at >> > > =A0 =A0 =A0http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info for more information= .). >> > > >> > > =A0 =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-05) exists of >> > > =A0 =A0 =A0draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04 >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > --David >> > > ---------------------------------------------------- >> > > David L. Black, Distinguished Engineer >> > > EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA =A001748 >> > > +1 (508) 293-7953 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 FAX: +1 (508) 293-7786 >> > > black_david@emc.com =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mobile: +1 (978) 394-7754 >> > > ---------------------------------------------------- >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gen-art mailing list >> Gen-art@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art > > > ------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > End of Capwap Digest, Vol 49, Issue 11 > ************************************** > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Dec 8 13:05:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A656F3A6A49 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:05:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.432 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.432 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.833, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eBWxB6pLyaGt for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2D23A6997 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48170E18200 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECC6E240CA for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3298F3610002 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:04:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751D73610001 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:04:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (193.0.19.66 whitelisted by list.dnswl.org 9.3) Received: from postgirl.ripe.net (postgirl.ripe.net [193.0.19.66]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from herring.ripe.net ([193.0.1.203]) by postgirl.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NI7EG-0007wj-Dc; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:04:16 +0100 Received: from ayeaye.ripe.net (ayeaye.ripe.net [193.0.1.103]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D55E2F592; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:04:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from dog.ripe.net ([193.0.1.217] helo=BWMACBOOK.local) by ayeaye.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NI7EC-00031j-57; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:04:12 +0100 Message-ID: <4B1EBF4B.1090009@bwijnen.net> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:04:11 +0100 From: "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yong Zhang References: In-Reply-To: X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd429b07f171d52d842ca30f3d180efeeb4 Cc: young , capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Capwap Digest, Vol 49, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Oops sorry. I now see in RFC5415 it is not bit positions but a byte value. So I could live with starting at zero. I would still think it be better to start at 1. But I leave it now up to Dan to decide. Is this sort of reasoning the same for all ENUMERATED INTEGERS that start at zero? I notioced that you have MANY of those. Bert Yong Zhang wrote: > Bert, > > The "8-bit" in RFC5415 4.6.25 ECN Support just means the size of "ECN > Support", does not means it is BITS type. > > In the RFC5415/5416. when bits are used, there always a diagram which > shows the bit position. > > 0 - Limited ECN Support > 1 - Full and Limited ECN Support > > For ECN support, if it is defined as a bit, then 1 should be Full ECN > Support only. > > There is a lot of capwap variables are defined using enumerated value > start from 0, such as 4.6.21. Discovery Type, 4.6.34. Radio > Operational State, 4.6.44. WTP MAC Type... > > Just think using the same values as what defined in the capwap > protocol will make the MIB easier to use. Do you know any widely used > protocol/mib that redefined the enumerated values in the MIB? If that > is a convention way, we can change our MIB definition. > > Thanks! > > Yong > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:26 PM, wrote: > >> Send Capwap mailing list submissions to >> capwap@frascone.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> capwap-request@frascone.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> capwap-owner@frascone.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Thanks for your guidance and quick response >> (Bert Wijnen (IETF)) >> 2. Re: Thanks for your guidance and quick response >> (Bert Wijnen (IETF)) >> 3. Re: [Gen-art] Please check the comments to the issues of the >> MIB drafts (Black_David@emc.com) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:18:14 +0100 >> From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" >> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Thanks for your guidance and quick response >> To: "young" >> Cc: "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , >> capwap@frascone.com >> Message-ID: <9B311E4130314C6CB374C282316E5535@BertLaptop> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" >> >> More detail W.r.t. my comments on this: >> >> >>>> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE >>>> SYNTAX INTEGER { >>>> limited(0), >>>> fullAndLimited(1) >>>> } >>>> MAX-ACCESS read-create >>>> STATUS current >>>> >>>> Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, >>>> unless >>>> there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the DESCRIPTION >>>> clause). >>>> So... what is the reason? >>>> >>>> >> You point to RFC5415 sect 4..6.25, where I read: >> >> The ECN Support message element is sent by both the WTP and the AC to >> indicate their support for the Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) >> bits, as defined in [RFC3168]. >> >> 0 >> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> | ECN Support | >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> Type: 53 for ECN Support >> >> Length: 1 >> >> ECN Support: An 8-bit value representing the sender's support for >> ECN, as defined in [RFC3168]. All CAPWAP Implementations MUST >> support the Limited ECN Support mode. Full ECN Support is used if >> both the WTP and AC advertise the capability for "Full and Limited >> ECN" Support; otherwise, Limited ECN Support is used. >> >> 0 - Limited ECN Support >> >> 1 - Full and Limited ECN Support >> >> >> So from that, I do not see why you could not change your enumeration at 1. >> Bit zero is not a zero value, and bit 1 is not a 1 value. They represent the >> values 8 and 4, and so you have to convert them anyways to go into the >> MIB OBJECT. So I would RECOMMEND to do >> >> >> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE >> SYNTAX INTEGER { >> limited(1), >> fullAndLimited(2) >> } >> MAX-ACCESS read-create >> STATUS current >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType >>>> And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType >>>> And possibly others!! pls check. >>>> >>>> >>> [Richard] >>> The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. >>> So how about the description updated in the following way? >>> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE >>> SYNTAX INTEGER { >>> limited(0), >>> fullAndLimited(1) >>> } >>> MAX-ACCESS read-create >>> STATUS current >>> DESCRIPTION >>> "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion >>> Notification >>> (ECN) bits, as defined in >>> [RFC3168]. >>> The following enumerated values are >>> supported: >>> limited(0) - Limited ECN >>> support >>> fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support >>> Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the MIB >>> object follow the same rule." >>> REFERENCE >>> "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." >>> >>> >> See above!!! >> >> Bert >> >> _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org Tue Dec 8 13:06:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC6A3A6A49 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:06:59 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, Non-encoded 8-bit data (char AE hex): From: VIAGRA \256 Reseller ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.saxtonferris.com (mail.saxtonferris.com [76.164.55.76]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1CD3A67A5 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:06:52 -0800 (PST) From: VIAGRA ® Reseller To: capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: Dear capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org receive 80% OFF on Pfizer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20091208210652.6C1CD3A67A5@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:06:52 -0800 (PST) Pfizer ® Newsletter
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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Dec 8 13:12:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9130A3A6A70 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:12:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xH+L7XP4vIbe for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CD93A6A51 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09A1E1805D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:12:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CB3E240CA for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD96F19F6C5 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:11:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEDF19F5E1 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:11:18 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (yozhang@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-px0-f172.google.com (mail-px0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by pxi2 with SMTP id 2so1674702pxi.11 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:11:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.189.37 with SMTP id m37mr16519383waf.67.1260306677824; Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:11:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B1EBF4B.1090009@bwijnen.net> References: <4B1EBF4B.1090009@bwijnen.net> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:11:17 -0800 Message-ID: From: Yong Zhang To: "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" Cc: young , capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Capwap Digest, Vol 49, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Yes. In our MIB drafts, if a MIB object has an ENUMERATED INTEGER 0, it is come from the RFC 5415 or 5416. Thanks! Yong On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Bert (IETF) Wijnen w= rote: > Oops sorry. I now see in RFC5415 it is not bit positions but a byte value. > > So I could live with starting at zero. > I would still think it be better to start at 1. > But I leave it now up to Dan to decide. > > Is this sort of reasoning the same for all ENUMERATED INTEGERS that start= at > zero? > I notioced that you have MANY of those. > > Bert > > Yong Zhang wrote: >> >> Bert, >> >> The "8-bit" in RFC5415 4.6.25 ECN Support just means the size of "ECN >> Support", does not means it is BITS type. >> >> In the RFC5415/5416. when bits are used, there always a diagram which >> shows the bit position. >> >> 0 - =A0Limited ECN Support >> 1 - =A0Full and Limited ECN Support >> >> For ECN support, if it is defined as a bit, then 1 should be Full ECN >> Support only. >> >> There is a lot of capwap variables are defined using enumerated value >> start from 0, such as 4.6.21. =A0Discovery Type, =A04.6.34. =A0Radio >> Operational State, 4.6.44. =A0WTP MAC Type... >> >> Just think using the same values as what defined in the capwap >> protocol will make the MIB easier to use. Do you know any widely used >> protocol/mib that redefined the enumerated values in the MIB? If that >> is a convention way, we can change our MIB definition. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Yong >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:26 PM, =A0 wrote: >> >>> >>> Send Capwap mailing list submissions to >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 capwap@frascone.com >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 capwap-request@frascone.com >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 capwap-owner@frascone.com >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> =A01. Re: Thanks for your guidance and quick response >>> =A0 =A0 (Bert Wijnen (IETF)) >>> =A02. Re: Thanks for your guidance and quick response >>> =A0 =A0 (Bert Wijnen (IETF)) >>> =A03. Re: [Gen-art] Please check the comments to the issues of =A0the >>> =A0 =A0 MIB drafts (Black_David@emc.com) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:18:14 +0100 >>> From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" >>> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Thanks for your guidance and quick response >>> To: "young" >>> Cc: "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 capwap@frascone.com >>> Message-ID: <9B311E4130314C6CB374C282316E5535@BertLaptop> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"gb2312" >>> >>> More detail W.r.t. my comments on this: >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE >>>>> =A0 =A0SYNTAX =A0 =A0 =A0INTEGER { >>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0limited(0), >>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0fullAndLimited(1) >>>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0} >>>>> =A0 =A0MAX-ACCESS =A0read-create >>>>> =A0 =A0STATUS =A0 =A0 =A0current >>>>> >>>>> Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, >>>>> unless >>>>> there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the DESCRIPTION >>>>> clause). >>>>> So... what is the reason? >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> You point to RFC5415 sect 4..6.25, where I read: >>> >>> =A0The ECN Support message element is sent by both the WTP and the AC to >>> =A0indicate their support for the Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) >>> =A0bits, as defined in [RFC3168]. >>> >>> =A0 =A0 0 >>> =A0 =A0 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 >>> =A0 =A0+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> =A0 =A0| =A0ECN Support =A0| >>> =A0 =A0+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> >>> =A0Type: =A0 53 for ECN Support >>> >>> =A0Length: =A0 1 >>> >>> =A0ECN Support: =A0 An 8-bit value representing the sender's support for >>> =A0 =A0 ECN, as defined in [RFC3168]. =A0All CAPWAP Implementations MUST >>> =A0 =A0 support the Limited ECN Support mode. =A0Full ECN Support is us= ed if >>> =A0 =A0 both the WTP and AC advertise the capability for "Full and Limi= ted >>> =A0 =A0 ECN" Support; otherwise, Limited ECN Support is used. >>> >>> =A0 =A0 0 - =A0Limited ECN Support >>> >>> =A0 =A0 1 - =A0Full and Limited ECN Support >>> >>> >>> So from that, I do not see why you could not change your enumeration at >>> 1. >>> Bit zero is not a zero value, and bit 1 is not a 1 value. They represent >>> the >>> values 8 and 4, and so you have to convert them anyways to go into the >>> MIB OBJECT. So I would RECOMMEND to do >>> >>> >>> =A0capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE >>> =A0 =A0SYNTAX =A0 =A0 =A0INTEGER { >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0limited(1), >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0fullAndLimited(2) >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0} >>> =A0 =A0MAX-ACCESS =A0read-create >>> =A0 =A0STATUS =A0 =A0 =A0current >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType >>>>> And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType >>>>> And possibly others!! pls check. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> [Richard] >>>> The enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero. >>>> So how about the description updated in the following way? >>>> capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE >>>> =A0 =A0SYNTAX =A0 =A0 =A0INTEGER { >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0limited(0), >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0fullAndLimited(1) >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0} >>>> =A0 =A0MAX-ACCESS =A0read-create >>>> =A0 =A0STATUS =A0 =A0 =A0current >>>> =A0 =A0DESCRIPTION >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion >>>> Notification >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 (ECN) bits, as defined in >>>> [RFC3168]. >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The following enumerated values are >>>> supported: >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 limited(0) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- Limited ECN >>>> support >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Since the enumeration in RFC5415 starts with zero, the= MIB >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 object follow the same rule." >>>> =A0 =A0REFERENCE >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC = 5415." >>>> >>>> >>> >>> See above!!! 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Dec 9 00:40:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04F43A688B for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:40:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.386 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.386 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.929, BAYES_00=-2.599, CN_BODY_35=0.339, J_CHICKENPOX_102=0.6, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iwJb8WBr76nF for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6693A6864 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2C9E18236 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7767DE240CA for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D48F19DCA1 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:39:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C7D19DD60 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:39:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dromasca@avaya.com whitelisted) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:39:38 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,367,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="193277625" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erhlab.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.35]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 09 Dec 2009 03:39:34 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.15]) by p-us1-erhlab-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 09 Dec 2009 03:38:59 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:38:54 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00e001ca7873$72fd3750$7c449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: How to track these issue? 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Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [IANA #281797] Last Call: draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib (CAPWAP ProtocolBase MIB) to Informational RFC Thread-Index: Acp4QgaKKyf2kvzJQDWihGrcR2madgAcRShQ From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "young" Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] FW: [IANA #281797] Last Call: draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib (CAPWAP ProtocolBase MIB) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Richard, Please make sure that you address this issue as well. It looks like IANA believe that the ifType required in Section 12.2 of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib for WTP Virtual Radio Interface is the same as one of the ifType required in draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib for WLAN Profile Interface and WLAN BSS Interface. They may be wrong, you need to answer and clarify this. Dan -----Original Message----- From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Baber via RT Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:06 PM Cc: capwap-chairs@tools.ietf.org; chelliot@cisco.com; yzhang@fortinet.com; young@h3c.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; iesg@ietf.org Subject: [IANA #281797] Last Call: draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib (CAPWAP ProtocolBase MIB) to Informational RFC IESG: IANA has the following comments on draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06.txt: QUESTION: the ifType requested in section 12.2 is also being requested by draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib. Should both documents be listed as references? Upon approval of this document, IANA will make the following assignment at http://www.iana.org/assignments/smi-numbers Prefix: iso.org.dod.internet.mgmt.mib-2 (1.3.6.1.2.1) Decimal Name Description Reference ------- | ------------ | ------------------------------- | --------- TBD | capwapBaseMIB | CAPWAP Protocol Base MIB | [RFC-capwap-base-mib-06] Thanks, Amanda Baber IANA On Mon Nov 23 15:46:06 2009, noreply@ietf.org wrote: > The IESG has received a request from the Control And Provisioning of > Wireless Access Points WG (capwap) to consider the following document: > > - 'CAPWAP Protocol Base MIB ' > as an Informational RFC > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits > final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to > the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2009-12-07. Exceptionally, comments > may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 14 02:11:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E73B3A69CE for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:11:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.933 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.933 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.666, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id njUEK-7XSGem for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82A23A69B8 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E710E18197 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:10:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18914E240CA for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3185F34AC007 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:10:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC1034AC005 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:10:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dromasca@avaya.com whitelisted) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (p-us1.iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:10:42 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,394,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="1019922" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2009 05:10:39 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.15]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2009 05:09:58 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:09:32 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001ca7c9f$c105af60$83449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments Thread-Index: Acp8n8CXDGYUU/+0RCOWfd8/5detoQAAnSgw References: <000001ca7c9f$c105af60$83449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "young" , , Subject: Re: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com See in-line. Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:28 AM > To: capwap@frascone.com; Black_David@emc.com > Subject: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > according to David'scomments > > Hi, David: > > According to the latest discussion in the mailing list, here > I gave a list of changes should be done according to your > review comments. > > [*] Intended document status is now Informational. That > needs to be changed on the title page, but more importantly, > someone (draft shepherd?) should double-check whether the > requested IANA allocations are appropriate for an > Informational document. If there's a problem here, the IESG > should be warned that a process exception may be needed, as I > think the allocations are necessary for this draft. > [Status] > Dan's working on it. The IANA allocations required by this document can be made in an Informational RFC. > ... > > [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415. > That's not a good idea for an Informational document. It is > ok to say that if the additional requirements are not > followed, this MIB will not be useful or usable. > [Editors] > The WG already made the consensus on it after IETF 75th, and > the WG agree to use the following text. The section 4.6.40 > [RFC5415] does not clarify that the WTP's Base MAC address > MUST be included in the WTP Board Data message element. This > is a known errata item and assumed to be fixed in future by > the editors of the RFC5415. > [Status] Dan or Margaret please confirm it. Confirmed. The WG agreed on this change and on the Errata as being a clarification to RFC 5415 which does not impact interoperability. ... > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a > MIB draft? MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the > protocol that they provide management for. This section, and > the changes in Section 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft > that could be standards track. > [Editors] > 1) Margaret or Dan, please confirm whether is it allowed to > have the Message Element Extension in the MIB drafts? Content of 5.7 was addressed above. Section 9 refers to a usage of Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement or not. It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not required. I do not see why it ought to be in a separate document and why this document should be standards track. 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 14 03:08:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A419728C11C for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:08:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.941 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.941 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.658, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DH7n1qPR+1CC for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5A73A65A5 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76BBE1824E for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157A116E0002 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:08:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81ED19E054 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:08:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6621119E047 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:08:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dromasca@avaya.com whitelisted) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:08:39 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,395,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="1025630" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2009 06:08:10 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.15]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2009 06:07:30 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:07:08 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Gen-art review of draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-05.txt Thread-Index: Acp7foe4WMc7aBn8SLCXosK3qJZ/OABLwllw From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [Capwap] FW: Gen-art review of draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-05.txt X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com -----Original Message----- From: Elwyn Davies [mailto:elwynd@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 12:57 AM To: General Area Reviwing Team Cc: Mary Barnes; capwap-ads@tools.ietf.org; capwap-chairs@tools.ietf.org; yzhang@fortinet.com; chelliot@cisco.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; young@h3c.com Subject: Gen-art review of draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-05.txt I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see _http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html_). Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Document: draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-05.txt Reviewer: Elwyn Davies Review Date: 12 December 2009 IETF LC End Date: 7 December 2009 IESG Telechat date: (if known)= Summary: Ready for the IESG. There are a few editorial nits noted below (the example IP addresses need to be fixed). Major issues: - Minor issues: - Nits/editorial comments: s3: WLAN is defined but no expansion of the acronym is given. s5.1: Possibly define/expand PHY. s5.2, next to last bullet: s/manage/management/ s5.3, last sentence; expand BSS acronym s7.2: The paragraph > Also, the AC MUST have a mechanism that preserves the value of the > WLAN Profile Interfaces' ifIndexes in the ifTable at AC reboot. > is duplicated (last and last but 2). s8: The IP addresses should be taken from the 'example' ranges (see http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iana-ipv4-examples-01). I don't know that there is an example MAC address - the RFC Editor should know. s9: Maybe WLAN and BSS should be expanded here in the descriptions as well. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 14 07:30:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E0D3A6956 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:30:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.075 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.075 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.476, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aAdXyc-V7+6W for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222843A68EA for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EEEE182A4 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6704E24A99 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9595619EB4C for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:30:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107F719EB2F for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:30:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (128.222.32.20 whitelisted by list.dnswl.org 9.2) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (mexforward.lss.emc.com [128.222.32.20]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si04.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI04.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.24]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.3.2/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id nBEFU0jq019782 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:30:00 -0500 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (numailhub.lss.emc.com [10.254.144.16]) by hop04-l1d11-si04.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:29:57 -0500 Received: from corpussmtp5.corp.emc.com (corpussmtp5.corp.emc.com [128.221.166.229]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.3.2mp) with ESMTP id nBEFTtHa010285; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:29:56 -0500 Received: from CORPUSMX80B.corp.emc.com ([10.254.89.203]) by corpussmtp5.corp.emc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:29:55 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:29:53 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments Thread-Index: Acp8n8CXDGYUU/+0RCOWfd8/5detoQAAnSgwAArmpOA= References: <000001ca7c9f$c105af60$83449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> From: To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2009 15:29:55.0394 (UTC) FILETIME=[49A3FA20:01CA7CD2] X-EMM-EM: Active Cc: Black_David@emc.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Dan, > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a > > MIB draft? MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the > > protocol that they provide management for. This section, and > > the changes in Section 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft > > that could be standards track. > > [Editors] > > 1) Margaret or Dan, please confirm whether is it allowed to > > have the Message Element Extension in the MIB drafts? > > Content of 5.7 was addressed above. I agree, this is resolved. > Section 9 refers to a usage of > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement or not. > It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not > required. Multi-vendor interoperability is not required?? This looks like an assertion that the CAPWAP WTP and AC are always from the same vendor when this MIB is implemented - that doesn't sound right. > I do not see why it ought to be in a separate document and why > this document should be standards track. Other opinions are welcome, > though. The rationale for a separate document is that this is changing (extending) the CAPWAP protocol, and I'm surprised to find protocol changes in a MIB draft. With the 5.7 concern resolved (that was a modification to a standards track RFC), a standards track draft is no longer needed, but I still think a separate document may be preferable. Thanks, --David > -----Original Message----- > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:10 AM > To: young; capwap@frascone.com; Black, David > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments > > See in-line. > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:28 AM > > To: capwap@frascone.com; Black_David@emc.com > > Subject: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > > according to David'scomments > > > > Hi, David: > > > > According to the latest discussion in the mailing list, here > > I gave a list of changes should be done according to your > > review comments. > > > > [*] Intended document status is now Informational. That > > needs to be changed on the title page, but more importantly, > > someone (draft shepherd?) should double-check whether the > > requested IANA allocations are appropriate for an > > Informational document. If there's a problem here, the IESG > > should be warned that a process exception may be needed, as I > > think the allocations are necessary for this draft. > > [Status] > > Dan's working on it. > > The IANA allocations required by this document can be made in an > Informational RFC. > > > > ... > > > > > [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415. > > That's not a good idea for an Informational document. It is > > ok to say that if the additional requirements are not > > followed, this MIB will not be useful or usable. > > [Editors] > > The WG already made the consensus on it after IETF 75th, and > > the WG agree to use the following text. The section 4.6.40 > > [RFC5415] does not clarify that the WTP's Base MAC address > > MUST be included in the WTP Board Data message element. This > > is a known errata item and assumed to be fixed in future by > > the editors of the RFC5415. > > [Status] Dan or Margaret please confirm it. > > Confirmed. The WG agreed on this change and on the Errata as being a > clarification to RFC 5415 which does not impact interoperability. > > ... > > > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a > > MIB draft? MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the > > protocol that they provide management for. This section, and > > the changes in Section 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft > > that could be standards track. > > [Editors] > > 1) Margaret or Dan, please confirm whether is it allowed to > > have the Message Element Extension in the MIB drafts? > > Content of 5.7 was addressed above. Section 9 refers to a usage of > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement or not. > It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not > required. I do not see why it ought to be in a separate document and why > this document should be standards track. 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 14 07:42:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC9F3A6A13 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:42:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.954 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.954 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.645, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A5vkhbzALEEo for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:42:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EC43A68EA for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:42:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB10E18246 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAF1E24A99 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:42:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A54619EBDE for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:42:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4F719EBCD for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:42:09 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dromasca@avaya.com whitelisted) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:42:09 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,395,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="166626298" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2009 10:42:06 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.15]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2009 10:42:05 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:41:38 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments Thread-Index: Acp8n8CXDGYUU/+0RCOWfd8/5detoQAAnSgwAArmpOAAATACMA== References: <000001ca7c9f$c105af60$83449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , , Subject: Re: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com In line, leaving the still open issue. Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] ... > > Section 9 refers to a usage of > > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement or > not. > > It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not > > required. > > Multi-vendor interoperability is not required?? This looks > like an assertion that the CAPWAP WTP and AC are always from > the same vendor when this MIB is implemented - that doesn't > sound right. Maybe I mis-understood. The second field in the extension is a vendor-ID. Why is this here? If the purpose is multivendor interoperability we may not need it. > > > I do not see why it ought to be in a separate document and why this > > document should be standards track. Other opinions are welcome, > > though. > > The rationale for a separate document is that this is changing > (extending) > the CAPWAP protocol, and I'm surprised to find protocol > changes in a MIB draft. With the 5.7 concern resolved (that > was a modification to a standards track RFC), a standards > track draft is no longer needed, but I still think a separate > document may be preferable. > Why? These extensions are specially designed so that a WTP gets from the ACs the information to instrument the MIB objects. > Thanks, > --David > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:10 AM > > To: young; capwap@frascone.com; Black, David > > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > according to > David'scomments > > > > See in-line. > > > > Regards, > > > > Dan > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:28 AM > > > To: capwap@frascone.com; Black_David@emc.com > > > Subject: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to > > > David'scomments > > > > > > Hi, David: > > > > > > According to the latest discussion in the mailing list, > here I gave > > > a list of changes should be done according to your review > comments. > > > > > > [*] Intended document status is now Informational. That > needs to be > > > changed on the title page, but more importantly, someone (draft > > > shepherd?) should double-check whether the requested IANA > > > allocations are appropriate for an Informational document. If > > > there's a problem here, the IESG should be warned that a process > > > exception may be needed, as I think the allocations are necessary > > > for this draft. > > > [Status] > > > Dan's working on it. > > > > The IANA allocations required by this document can be made in an > > Informational RFC. > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415. > > > That's not a good idea for an Informational document. It > is ok to > > > say that if the additional requirements are not followed, > this MIB > > > will not be useful or usable. > > > [Editors] > > > The WG already made the consensus on it after IETF 75th, > and the WG > > > agree to use the following text. The section 4.6.40 > [RFC5415] does > > > not clarify that the WTP's Base MAC address MUST be > included in the > > > WTP Board Data message element. This is a known errata item and > > > assumed to be fixed in future by the editors of the RFC5415. > > > [Status] Dan or Margaret please confirm it. > > > > Confirmed. The WG agreed on this change and on the Errata > as being a > > clarification to RFC 5415 which does not impact interoperability. > > > > ... > > > > > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a MIB > > > draft? MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the protocol > > > that they provide management for. This section, and the > changes in > > > Section 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be > standards > > > track. > > > [Editors] > > > 1) Margaret or Dan, please confirm whether is it allowed > to have the > > > Message Element Extension in the MIB drafts? > > > > Content of 5.7 was addressed above. Section 9 refers to a usage of > > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement or > not. > > It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not > > required. I do not see why it ought to be in a separate document and > why > > this document should be standards track. 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 14 08:01:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54AE3A67A6 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:01:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.145, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w-hpV-mE3H9t for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692ED3A686E for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2156E18279 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6915CE24A99 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DD334AC025 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:00:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD0D34AC005 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:00:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (128.222.32.20 whitelisted by list.dnswl.org 9.2) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (mexforward.lss.emc.com [128.222.32.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si02.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI02.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.55]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.3.2/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id nBEG0niR016154 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:00:49 -0500 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (numailhub.lss.emc.com [10.254.144.16]) by hop04-l1d11-si02.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:00:45 -0500 Received: from corpussmtp3.corp.emc.com (corpussmtp3.corp.emc.com [10.254.169.196]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.3.2mp) with ESMTP id nBEG0iJg003043; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:00:45 -0500 Received: from CORPUSMX80B.corp.emc.com ([10.254.89.203]) by corpussmtp3.corp.emc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:00:44 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:00:43 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments Thread-Index: Acp8n8CXDGYUU/+0RCOWfd8/5detoQAAnSgwAArmpOAAATACMAAAazFQ References: <000001ca7c9f$c105af60$83449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> From: To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2009 16:00:44.0258 (UTC) FILETIME=[97A63C20:01CA7CD6] X-EMM-EM: Active Cc: Black_David@emc.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com More inline - it looks like we have an IANA Considerations issue at a minimum, --David > -----Original Message----- > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:42 AM > To: Black, David; young@h3c.com; capwap@frascone.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments > > In line, leaving the still open issue. > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] > > ... > > > > Section 9 refers to a usage of > > > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement or > > not. > > > It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not > > > required. > > > > Multi-vendor interoperability is not required?? This looks > > like an assertion that the CAPWAP WTP and AC are always from > > the same vendor when this MIB is implemented - that doesn't > > sound right. > > Maybe I mis-understood. The second field in the extension is a > vendor-ID. Why is this here? If the purpose is multivendor > interoperability we may not need it. I suspect that you may have misunderstood, and the cause of the misunderstanding is a new open issue that requires attention: Section 9 says: CAPWAP Message Element Vendor Identifier Element ID CAPWAP Protocol Timers Id assigned by IANA 1 CAPWAP Protocol Variables Id assigned by IANA 2 That's badly specified. It looks like what's going on here is that this is a CAPWAP "Vendor Specific Payload" (37) for which IANA is being asked to allocate a Vendor Identifier (see RFC 5415, 4.6.39), but that request is not in the IANA Considerations section of the draft. At a minimum, this omission needs to be corrected. This sort of use of a vendor-id to signal a standardized extension has been done elsewhere - IPsec NAT traversal is a past example. If this extension really is intended to be vendor-specific, it belongs in a document entitled "Vendor-X's extensions to the CAPWAP protocol" or something like that, and should not be part of the standard MIB draft. > > > I do not see why it ought to be in a separate document and why this > > > document should be standards track. Other opinions are welcome, > > > though. > > > > The rationale for a separate document is that this is changing > > (extending) > > the CAPWAP protocol, and I'm surprised to find protocol > > changes in a MIB draft. With the 5.7 concern resolved (that > > was a modification to a standards track RFC), a standards > > track draft is no longer needed, but I still think a separate > > document may be preferable. > > > > Why? These extensions are specially designed so that a WTP gets from the > ACs the information to instrument the MIB objects. Is a protocol implementer going to expect to look at the MIB document to find additional pieces of the protocol that need to be implemented? Maybe ... as I noted earlier, I'm surprised to find a MIB document defining protocol extensions, and I suspect I won't be the only one who's surprised. Thanks, --David > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:10 AM > > > To: young; capwap@frascone.com; Black, David > > > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > > according to > > David'scomments > > > > > > See in-line. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:28 AM > > > > To: capwap@frascone.com; Black_David@emc.com > > > > Subject: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to > > > > David'scomments > > > > > > > > Hi, David: > > > > > > > > According to the latest discussion in the mailing list, > > here I gave > > > > a list of changes should be done according to your review > > comments. > > > > > > > > [*] Intended document status is now Informational. That > > needs to be > > > > changed on the title page, but more importantly, someone (draft > > > > shepherd?) should double-check whether the requested IANA > > > > allocations are appropriate for an Informational document. If > > > > there's a problem here, the IESG should be warned that a process > > > > exception may be needed, as I think the allocations are necessary > > > > for this draft. > > > > [Status] > > > > Dan's working on it. > > > > > > The IANA allocations required by this document can be made in an > > > Informational RFC. > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415. > > > > That's not a good idea for an Informational document. It > > is ok to > > > > say that if the additional requirements are not followed, > > this MIB > > > > will not be useful or usable. > > > > [Editors] > > > > The WG already made the consensus on it after IETF 75th, > > and the WG > > > > agree to use the following text. The section 4.6.40 > > [RFC5415] does > > > > not clarify that the WTP's Base MAC address MUST be > > included in the > > > > WTP Board Data message element. This is a known errata item and > > > > assumed to be fixed in future by the editors of the RFC5415. > > > > [Status] Dan or Margaret please confirm it. > > > > > > Confirmed. The WG agreed on this change and on the Errata > > as being a > > > clarification to RFC 5415 which does not impact interoperability. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a MIB > > > > draft? MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the protocol > > > > that they provide management for. This section, and the > > changes in > > > > Section 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be > > standards > > > > track. > > > > [Editors] > > > > 1) Margaret or Dan, please confirm whether is it allowed > > to have the > > > > Message Element Extension in the MIB drafts? > > > > > > Content of 5.7 was addressed above. Section 9 refers to a usage of > > > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement or > > not. > > > It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not > > > required. I do not see why it ought to be in a separate document and > > why > > > this document should be standards track. Other opinions are > > welcome, > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 14 08:14:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47003A6A19 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:14:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.962 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.962 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.637, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hhvSx+Iu9UOW for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:14:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9E83A6A15 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:14:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994C8E182A6 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCEDE24A99 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35CE19ED4A for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:14:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4905819ED42 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:14:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dromasca@avaya.com whitelisted) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com (p-us1.iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.16]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:14:10 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,395,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="1067737" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound-tmp.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2009 11:14:09 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.15]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2009 11:13:28 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:13:11 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments Thread-Index: Acp8n8CXDGYUU/+0RCOWfd8/5detoQAAnSgwAArmpOAAATACMAAAazFQAADuMsA= References: <000001ca7c9f$c105af60$83449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , , Subject: Re: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com In line. Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 6:01 PM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); young@h3c.com; capwap@frascone.com > Cc: Black_David@emc.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > according to David'scomments > > More inline - it looks like we have an IANA Considerations > issue at a minimum, --David > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:42 AM > > To: Black, David; young@h3c.com; capwap@frascone.com > > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > according to > David'scomments > > > > In line, leaving the still open issue. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] > > > > ... > > > > > > Section 9 refers to a usage of > > > > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement > or > > > not. > > > > It is not normative text and multi-vendor > interoperability is not > > > > required. > > > > > > Multi-vendor interoperability is not required?? This > looks like an > > > assertion that the CAPWAP WTP and AC are always from the > same vendor > > > when this MIB is implemented - that doesn't sound right. > > > > Maybe I mis-understood. The second field in the extension is a > > vendor-ID. Why is this here? If the purpose is multivendor > > interoperability we may not need it. > > I suspect that you may have misunderstood, and the cause of > the misunderstanding is a new open issue that requires attention: > > Section 9 says: > > CAPWAP Message Element Vendor Identifier > Element ID > > CAPWAP Protocol Timers Id assigned by IANA 1 > CAPWAP Protocol Variables Id assigned by IANA 2 > > That's badly specified. It looks like what's going on here > is that this is a CAPWAP "Vendor Specific Payload" (37) for > which IANA is being asked to allocate a Vendor Identifier > (see RFC 5415, 4.6.39), but that request is not in the IANA > Considerations section of the draft. At a minimum, this > omission needs to be corrected. Yes. > > This sort of use of a vendor-id to signal a standardized > extension has been done elsewhere - IPsec NAT traversal is a > past example. > > If this extension really is intended to be vendor-specific, > it belongs in a document entitled "Vendor-X's extensions to > the CAPWAP protocol" or something like that, and should not > be part of the standard MIB draft. > > > > > I do not see why it ought to be in a separate document and why > this > > > > document should be standards track. Other opinions are welcome, > > > > though. > > > > > > The rationale for a separate document is that this is changing > > > (extending) > > > the CAPWAP protocol, and I'm surprised to find protocol > changes in a > > > MIB draft. With the 5.7 concern resolved (that was a > modification > > > to a standards track RFC), a standards track draft is no longer > > > needed, but I still think a separate document may be preferable. > > > > > > > Why? These extensions are specially designed so that a WTP gets from > the > > ACs the information to instrument the MIB objects. > > Is a protocol implementer going to expect to look at the MIB > document to find additional pieces of the protocol that need > to be implemented? If he/she implements the MIB - otherwise they won't need it. And actually the same question can be asked if the MIB document is split in two. > > Maybe ... as I noted earlier, I'm surprised to find a MIB > document defining protocol extensions, and I suspect I won't > be the only one who's surprised. > > Thanks, > --David > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-archive@ietf.org Mon Dec 14 09:29:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B302A3A68E3 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:29:28 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, Non-encoded 8-bit data (char A9 hex): From: VIAGRA \251 Online Shop ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from 175-82-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net (175-82-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net [95.133.82.175]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FA23A6778 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:29:20 -0800 (PST) From: VIAGRA © Online Shop To: capwap-archive@ietf.org Subject: For capwap-archive special 80% OFF on Pfizer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20091214172920.88FA23A6778@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:29:20 -0800 (PST) Newsletter
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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 14 09:48:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E90328C12C for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:48:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.47 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.47 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.129, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U2+jVCJUvcuA for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:48:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8491128C120 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:48:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0FEE182A5 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57ADBE240CA for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B78B34AC007 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:48:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30EF3610001 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:48:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (128.222.32.20 whitelisted by list.dnswl.org 9.2) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (mexforward.lss.emc.com [128.222.32.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si04.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI04.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.24]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.3.2/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id nBEHmLXN007133 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:48:21 -0500 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (numailhub.lss.emc.com [10.254.144.16]) by hop04-l1d11-si04.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:48:14 -0500 Received: from corpussmtp3.corp.emc.com (corpussmtp3.corp.emc.com [10.254.169.196]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.3.2mp) with ESMTP id nBEHmCjL022817; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:48:13 -0500 Received: from CORPUSMX80B.corp.emc.com ([10.254.89.203]) by corpussmtp3.corp.emc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:48:12 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:48:11 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments Thread-Index: Acp8n8CXDGYUU/+0RCOWfd8/5detoQAAnSgwAArmpOAAATACMAAAazFQAADuMsAAAu9DIA== References: <000001ca7c9f$c105af60$83449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> From: To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2009 17:48:12.0334 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B008CE0:01CA7CE5] X-EMM-EM: Active Cc: Black_David@emc.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Dan, The draft authors clearly need to fix the IANA problem, including telling IANA exactly what needs to be allocated. As noted below, I'm reasonably confident that they're using a vendor-id for a standardized extension to the CAPWAP protocol. At this point, I suggest that you and I should "agree to disagree" about whether to split the protocol extensions out of this MIB draft. As things stand, I'd guess that this topic will wind up on the IESG's plate to sort out. Thanks, --David > -----Original Message----- > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:13 AM > To: Black, David; young@h3c.com; capwap@frascone.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments > > In line. > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 6:01 PM > > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); young@h3c.com; capwap@frascone.com > > Cc: Black_David@emc.com > > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > > according to David'scomments > > > > More inline - it looks like we have an IANA Considerations > > issue at a minimum, --David > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:42 AM > > > To: Black, David; young@h3c.com; capwap@frascone.com > > > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > > according to > > David'scomments > > > > > > In line, leaving the still open issue. > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > Section 9 refers to a usage of > > > > > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement > > or > > > > not. > > > > > It is not normative text and multi-vendor > > interoperability is not > > > > > required. > > > > > > > > Multi-vendor interoperability is not required?? This > > looks like an > > > > assertion that the CAPWAP WTP and AC are always from the > > same vendor > > > > when this MIB is implemented - that doesn't sound right. > > > > > > Maybe I mis-understood. The second field in the extension is a > > > vendor-ID. Why is this here? If the purpose is multivendor > > > interoperability we may not need it. > > > > I suspect that you may have misunderstood, and the cause of > > the misunderstanding is a new open issue that requires attention: > > > > Section 9 says: > > > > CAPWAP Message Element Vendor Identifier > > Element ID > > > > CAPWAP Protocol Timers Id assigned by IANA 1 > > CAPWAP Protocol Variables Id assigned by IANA 2 > > > > That's badly specified. It looks like what's going on here > > is that this is a CAPWAP "Vendor Specific Payload" (37) for > > which IANA is being asked to allocate a Vendor Identifier > > (see RFC 5415, 4.6.39), but that request is not in the IANA > > Considerations section of the draft. At a minimum, this > > omission needs to be corrected. > > Yes. > > > > > This sort of use of a vendor-id to signal a standardized > > extension has been done elsewhere - IPsec NAT traversal is a > > past example. > > > > If this extension really is intended to be vendor-specific, > > it belongs in a document entitled "Vendor-X's extensions to > > the CAPWAP protocol" or something like that, and should not > > be part of the standard MIB draft. > > > > > > > I do not see why it ought to be in a separate document and why > > this > > > > > document should be standards track. Other opinions are welcome, > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > The rationale for a separate document is that this is changing > > > > (extending) > > > > the CAPWAP protocol, and I'm surprised to find protocol > > changes in a > > > > MIB draft. With the 5.7 concern resolved (that was a > > modification > > > > to a standards track RFC), a standards track draft is no longer > > > > needed, but I still think a separate document may be preferable. > > > > > > > > > > Why? These extensions are specially designed so that a WTP gets from > > the > > > ACs the information to instrument the MIB objects. > > > > Is a protocol implementer going to expect to look at the MIB > > document to find additional pieces of the protocol that need > > to be implemented? > > If he/she implements the MIB - otherwise they won't need it. > > And actually the same question can be asked if the MIB document is split > in two. > > > > > Maybe ... as I noted earlier, I'm surprised to find a MIB > > document defining protocol extensions, and I suspect I won't > > be the only one who's surprised. > > > > Thanks, > > --David > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 14 09:53:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA1E28C120 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:53:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.969 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.969 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.630, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dwr8JcfLJMyM for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406A328C103 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57E6E18200 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE71E240CA for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:53:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A9619F1FE for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:53:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3B819F20B for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:52:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dromasca@avaya.com whitelisted) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:52:59 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,396,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="166647788" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2009 12:52:58 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.15]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2009 12:52:22 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:51:58 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments Thread-Index: Acp8n8CXDGYUU/+0RCOWfd8/5detoQAAnSgwAArmpOAAATACMAAAazFQAADuMsAAAu9DIAAAlSOQ References: <000001ca7c9f$c105af60$83449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , , Subject: Re: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done according to David'scomments X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fine with me. Thank you for the attentive review. Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:48 PM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); young@h3c.com; capwap@frascone.com > Cc: Black_David@emc.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > according to David'scomments > > Dan, > > The draft authors clearly need to fix the IANA problem, > including telling IANA exactly what needs to be allocated. > As noted below, I'm reasonably confident that they're using a > vendor-id for a standardized extension to the CAPWAP protocol. > > At this point, I suggest that you and I should "agree to disagree" > about whether to split the protocol extensions out of this > MIB draft. As things stand, I'd guess that this topic will > wind up on the IESG's plate to sort out. > > Thanks, > --David > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:13 AM > > To: Black, David; young@h3c.com; capwap@frascone.com > > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > according to > David'scomments > > > > In line. > > > > Regards, > > > > Dan > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] > > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 6:01 PM > > > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); young@h3c.com; capwap@frascone.com > > > Cc: Black_David@emc.com > > > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > according > > > to David'scomments > > > > > > More inline - it looks like we have an IANA > Considerations issue at > > > a minimum, --David > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:42 AM > > > > To: Black, David; young@h3c.com; capwap@frascone.com > > > > Subject: RE: [Capwap] The list of changes should be done > > > according to > > > David'scomments > > > > > > > > In line, leaving the still open issue. > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > Section 9 refers to a usage of Message Element Extensions > > > > > > which a vendor can chose to > implement > > > or > > > > > not. > > > > > > It is not normative text and multi-vendor > > > interoperability is not > > > > > > required. > > > > > > > > > > Multi-vendor interoperability is not required?? This > > > looks like an > > > > > assertion that the CAPWAP WTP and AC are always from the > > > same vendor > > > > > when this MIB is implemented - that doesn't sound right. > > > > > > > > Maybe I mis-understood. The second field in the extension is a > > > > vendor-ID. Why is this here? If the purpose is multivendor > > > > interoperability we may not need it. > > > > > > I suspect that you may have misunderstood, and the cause of the > > > misunderstanding is a new open issue that requires attention: > > > > > > Section 9 says: > > > > > > CAPWAP Message Element Vendor Identifier > > > Element ID > > > > > > CAPWAP Protocol Timers Id assigned by IANA > 1 > > > CAPWAP Protocol Variables Id assigned by IANA > 2 > > > > > > That's badly specified. It looks like what's going on > here is that > > > this is a CAPWAP "Vendor Specific Payload" (37) for which IANA is > > > being asked to allocate a Vendor Identifier (see RFC > 5415, 4.6.39), > > > but that request is not in the IANA Considerations section of the > > > draft. At a minimum, this omission needs to be corrected. > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > This sort of use of a vendor-id to signal a standardized > extension > > > has been done elsewhere - IPsec NAT traversal is a past example. > > > > > > If this extension really is intended to be vendor-specific, it > > > belongs in a document entitled "Vendor-X's extensions to > the CAPWAP > > > protocol" or something like that, and should not be part of the > > > standard MIB draft. > > > > > > > > > I do not see why it ought to be in a separate > document and why > > > this > > > > > > document should be standards track. Other opinions are > welcome, > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > The rationale for a separate document is that this is changing > > > > > (extending) > > > > > the CAPWAP protocol, and I'm surprised to find protocol > > > changes in a > > > > > MIB draft. With the 5.7 concern resolved (that was a > > > modification > > > > > to a standards track RFC), a standards track draft is > no longer > > > > > needed, but I still think a separate document may be > preferable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why? These extensions are specially designed so that a WTP gets > from > > > the > > > > ACs the information to instrument the MIB objects. > > > > > > Is a protocol implementer going to expect to look at the MIB > > > document to find additional pieces of the protocol that > need to be > > > implemented? > > > > If he/she implements the MIB - otherwise they won't need it. > > > > And actually the same question can be asked if the MIB document is > split > > in two. > > > > > > > > Maybe ... as I noted earlier, I'm surprised to find a MIB > document > > > defining protocol extensions, and I suspect I won't be > the only one > > > who's surprised. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > --David > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-archive@ietf.org Mon Dec 14 13:23:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FB03A6887 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:23:26 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, Non-encoded 8-bit data (char A9 hex): From: VIAGRA \251 Online Shop ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from 189-19-161-126.dsl.telesp.net.br (189-18-38-141.dsl.telesp.net.br [189.18.38.141]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDA13A6840 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:23:19 -0800 (PST) From: VIAGRA © Online Shop To: capwap-archive@ietf.org Subject: For capwap-archive special 80% OFF on Pfizer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20091214212319.7CDA13A6840@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:23:19 -0800 (PST) Newsletter
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(helo=BertLaptop) by relay.versatel.net with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMKRR-0006NY-Pa; Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:59:18 +0100 Message-ID: <423741D359784D6183A871D8408C624D@BertLaptop> From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" To: "shiyang 00338" , References: <29226f291035.29103529226f@huawei-3com.com> In-Reply-To: <29226f291035.29103529226f@huawei-3com.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:56:33 +0100 Organization: Consultant MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Cc: "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: [Capwap] The changes according to Bert's comments X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1328000577==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1328000577== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1A56_01CA8173.DB9A11D0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1A56_01CA8173.DB9A11D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="GB2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looks good. If you send me a (pre-release) c opy of the new MIB module, = I can run it through SMICng to check it beofre you commit it to a new rev of the draft. Bert ----- Original Message -----=20 From: shiyang 00338=20 To: bertietf@bwijnen.net ; capwap@frascone.com=20 Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: The changes according to Bert's comments Hi, Bert: The following are changes should be done according to your comments. Thanks for your guidance. W: SMICng (strict checking) tells me: f(capwap-base.mi2), (851,17) Item = "capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress" should have SIZE specified [Editors] According to the following text in the RFC5415=A3=ACThe MAC Address is = EUI-48 [EUI-48] or EUI-64. So the change would follow the Bert=A1=AFs guidance: capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress PhysAddress (SIZE (6|8)) Also, For the TC CapwapBaseStationIdTC and CapwapBaseWtpIdTC, the size = should be: OCTET STRING (SIZE (6|8)) [new issue] 1) Also Bert raised another issue: Although the Reference of the capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress tells the Section 4.6.40 in the = RFC5415, it does not clearly tell that the MIB object corresponding to the sub element Base MAC Address in the RFC5415. [Editors] The description would be updated according to the Bert=A1=AFs = suggestion. capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX PhysAddress (SIZE(6|8)) MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the WTP's Base MAC Address, which MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. The instance of the object corresponds to the Base MAC Address = sub-element in the CAPWAP protocol [RFC 5415]." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.40. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." The description of capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress would do a similar = change. W: SMICng (strict checking) tells me: f(capwap-base.mi2), (974,17) Item "capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress" should = have SIZE specified [Editors] According to the following text in the RFC5415=A3=ACThe MAC Address is = EUI-48 [EUI-48] or EUI-64. The change would follow the Bert=A1=AFs guidance: capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress PhysAddress (SIZE (6|8)) W: SMICng (strict checking) tells me: f(capwap-base.mi2), (2038,17) Item "capwapBaseNtfStationIdList" should = have SIZE specified [Editors] Suggest capwapBaseNtfStationIdList OCTET STRING (SIZE (6..1024)) Should the size give a minimal value 6? Thus, at least, it should = contain one item of Station Id (EUI-48). [Bert] If an empty list is not allowed/wanted, then yep, do use a min size = that can contain one element. But this is up to the WG to decide. [Status] Need WG confirm it. W: SMICng (strict checking) tells me: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" does not = have a consistent indexing sche me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry The INDEX is as follows: INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId, capwapBaseStationId } The first one is the first index in another table The second one is the 2nd index in yet another table The 3rd one is an index (the 3rd one) in this table = capwapBaseStaionTable. That is indeed some sort of weird indexing. So that is why SMICng = gives a warning. It does not mean it is absolutely a fatal error. But it would be good = that the CAPWAP WG checks if this is indeed the indexing they intended and wanted [Editors] To bert: I updated it here. I think the index is correct.=20 capwapBaseWtpCurrId is to indicate the Id of WTPs which are connecting = to the AC. Another index capwapBaseWtpProfileId is together with capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId. capwapBaseWtpProfileId is to identify a WTP profile which would be = used by a specific WTP (capwapBaseWtpCurrId). Since the relationship between capwapBaseWtpCurrId and capwapBaseWtpProfileId is 1:1, the index capwapBaseWtpProfileId + capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId = could work together. So the index in such way should be ok. Yes, It would be better if the description could give some explain to = the reason. Could you suggest the text for it? Thanks. W: SMICng (strict checking) tells me: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" = does not have a consistent ind exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry Here the index objects are: INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId } That looks better, but again the the 2nd index is a 2nd index object = in another table that gets added as the 2nd index here. Pls make sure this is = what the WG intends and wants and that the indexing makes sense. For these "does not have a consistent indexing scheme" warnings, it = would be good to add some comment lines to the MIB module that explain why this indexing is OK/INTENDED. Something like: -- The following indexing is intended because we want to show a = table that -- ... here you text ... INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId } That way, when the SYNTAX check is done, and the MIB doctor checks the = MIB module, then he can see the explanation and see that the indexing is indeed = intended and nit inconsistent by accident. [Editors] same as above one. W: capwapBaseAcNameListRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX RowStatus MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "This variable is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row in this table." ::=3D { capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 4 } I thought that a RowStatus object MUST describe if and under which conditions any writable (including read-create) objects can be modified if the = row is Active? The same holds true for some (all?) other RowStatus objects [Editors] Yes,the description of RowStatus objects should be updated. =20 =20 capwapBaseAcNameListRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX RowStatus MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "This object is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row=20 in this table. All the objects in a row can be modified only when the value of this object in the corresponding conceptual row is not ''active''. Thus to modify one or more of the objects in=20 this conceptual row, a. change the row status to ''notInService'', b. change the values of the row c. change the row status to ''active'' The capwapBaseAcNameListRowStatus may be changed to = ''active''=20 if all the managed objects in the conceptual row with=20 MAX-ACCESS read-create have been assigned valid values." = =20 ::=3D { capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 4 } =20 capwapBaseMacAclRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX RowStatus MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "This object is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row=20 in this table. All the objects in a row can be modified only when the value of this object in the corresponding conceptual row is not ''active''. Thus to modify one or more of the objects in=20 this conceptual row, a. change the row status to ''notInService'', b. change the values of the row c. change the row status to ''active'' The capwapBaseMacAclRowStatus may be changed to ''active''=20 if all the managed objects in the conceptual row with=20 MAX-ACCESS read-create have been assigned valid values." = =20 ::=3D { capwapBaseMacAclEntry 3 } =20 capwapBaseWtpProfileRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX RowStatus MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "This object is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row in this table. The value of capwapBaseWtpProfileName can be changed when = this=20 object is in state ''active'' or in ''notInService'' The other objects in a row can be modified only when the = value of this object in the corresponding conceptual row is not ''active''. Thus to modify one or more of the objects in=20 this conceptual row, a. change the row status to ''notInService'', b. change the values of the row c. change the row status to ''active'' The capwapBaseWtpProfileRowStatus may be changed to = ''active''=20 if the managed objects capwapBaseWtpProfileName,=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpMacAddr,=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpModelNumber, = capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName=20 and capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpLocation in the conceptual row=20 have been assigned valid values.=20 =20 Deleting a WTP profile in use will disconnect the WTP to=20 the AC. So the network management system SHOULD ask the operator to confirm such an operation. When a WTP profile entry is removed from the table,=20 the corresponding WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces are also=20 removed from the CapwapBaseWirelessBindingTable and=20 ifTable [RFC2863]. Also, the related object instances SHOULD be removed from the wireless binding MIB modules such as IEEE 802.11=20 MIB module [IEEE.802-11.2007]." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 21 } =20 =20 =20 Dot11 MIB: =20 capwapDot11WlanRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX RowStatus MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "This variable is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row in this table. All the objects in a row can be modified only when the value of this object in the corresponding conceptual row is not ''active''. Thus to modify one or more of the objects in=20 this conceptual row, a. change the row status to ''notInService'', b. change the values of the row c. change the row status to ''active'' The capwapDot11WlanRowStatus may be changed to ''active''=20 if all the managed objects in the conceptual row with=20 MAX-ACCESS read-create have been assigned valid values. = =20 =20 When the operator deletes a WLAN profile, the AC SHOULD=20 check whether the WLAN profile is bound with a radio.=20 If yes, the value of the Response-PDU's error-status field=20 is set to `inconsistentValue', and the value of its=20 error-index field is set to the index of the failed variable binding. If not, the row object could be deleted." ::=3D { capwapDot11WlanEntry 5 } =20 =20 capwapDot11WlanBindRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX RowStatus MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "This variable is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row in this table. All the objects in a row can be modified only when the value of this object in the corresponding conceptual row is not ''active''. Thus to modify one or more of the objects in=20 this conceptual row, a. change the row status to ''notInService'', b. change the values of the row c. change the row status to ''active''" =20 ::=3D { capwapDot11WlanBindEntry 3 } =20 =20 w: capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddress MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "When capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpEnable is true, it represents the static IP address to be assigned to the = WTP." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.48. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." I thought that nay object of SYNTAX InetAddress MUST state in its DESCRIPTION clause which object of SYNTAX InetAddressType specifies the format? Further, it seems that "dns" is a valid InetAddressType. So in that = case, the DESCRIPTION clauses MUST explain when the dns name is resolved. See RFC4001 for details. Same question for various other objects of SYNATX InetAddress. [Bert new comment] Also, Bert wonder why there are no IPv6 support on the capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType. I added a NOTEs in the description. [Editors] 1) For capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp The change would be: capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddressType MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the static IP address type used by the WTP. Only ipv4(1) and ipv4z(3) are supported by the object. Although the CAPWAP protocol (RFC5415) supports both IPv4 and IPv6, note that the CAPWAP field modelled by this=20 object does not support IPv6, so the object does not=20 support ipv6(2) and ipv6z(4)." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.48. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." = =20 ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 8 } =20 =20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddress MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "When capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpEnable is true,=20 it represents the static IP address to be assigned to the = WTP. The format of this IP address is determined by the=20 corresponding instance of object=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.48. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 9 } capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpNetmask OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddress MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "When capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpEnable is true,=20 it represents the netmask to be assigned to the WTP. The format of this netmask is determined by the=20 corresponding instance of object=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType." =20 REFERENCE "Section 4.6.48. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 10 } capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpGateway OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddress MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "When capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpEnable is true,=20 it represents the gateway to be assigned to the WTP. The format of this IP address is determined by the=20 corresponding instance of object=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType." =20 REFERENCE "Section 4.6.48. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 11 } 2) For capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddress The change would be: capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddressType MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the IP address type of a WTP. Only ipv4(1), ipv6(2), ipv4z(3), ipv6z(4) and dns(16) are supported by the object." =20 ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 2 } =20 capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddress OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddress MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the IP address of a WTP. The format of this IP address is determined by the corresponding instance of object=20 capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 3 } W: capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX INTEGER { limited(0), fullAndLimited(1) } MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, unless there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the DESCRIPTION clause). So... what is the reason? Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType And possibly others!! pls check. [Editors] There is a lot of capwap variables are defined using enumerated value start from 0, such as 4.6.21. Discovery Type, 4.6.34. Radio Operational State, 4.6.44. WTP MAC Type... Just think using the same values as what defined in the capwap protocol will make the MIB easier to use. Would add a note in the description of the=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport: capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX INTEGER { limited(0), fullAndLimited(1) } MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the support for the Explicit Congestion = Notification (ECN) bits, as defined in [RFC3168]. The following enumerated values are supported: limited(0) - Limited ECN support fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN support Note that the CAPWAP field [RFC 5415] modelled by this object takes zero as Starting value, this MIB object follows this rule." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.25. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 20 } A same chane change would be added to the following MIB objects: > CapwapBaseMacTypeTC > capwapBaseDataChannelDTLSPolicyConfig > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport > capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType > capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsLastFailType > capwapBaseNtfRadioOperStatusFlag > capwapBaseNtfRadioStatusCause [Bert new comments] Bert could live with starting at zero.I would still think it=20 be better to start at 1. But I leave it now up to Dan to decide. W: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX Counter32 MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at the request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change in configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit CAPWAP protocol reset request. A value of 65535 implies that this information is not available on the WTP." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 } I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like the 65535)to have a specific meaning !!!!!=20 This is impossible given the semantics for the Counter32 SYNTAX. Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount and possibly others, pls check and make sure. [Editors] According to the suggestion in the CAPWAP mailing list, the change = would be: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX Counter32 MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred due to a WTP crash. Note that the CAPWAP field [RFC 5415] modelled by this = counter takes the value 65535 to indicate that the information is not available on the WTP. This MIB object does not follow this behaviour = which would not be standard in SMIv2. If the WTP does not have the information, the agent will not instantiate the object." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 1 } A same change would be done to the capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount. W: I wonder if there is a risk of sending too many notifications in a = very short time? IS there a way to control the rate of notifications? If the risk does not exist, then maybe some words about that would be = good. [Editors] Yes, controls flags for the notification are necessary. Also, using "TruthValue" likes simple. The changes would be: -- Notification Control capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::=3D { capwapBaseObjects 6 } capwapBaseChannelUpDownNotifyEnable OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX TruthValue MAX-ACCESS read-write STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents whether the Channel Up/Channel Down notification should be generated. A value of true(1) means that the notification is enabled A value of false(2) means that the notification is disabled" DEFVAL { false } ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects 1 } capwapBaseDecryptErrorNotifyEnable OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX TruthValue MAX-ACCESS read-write STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents whether the decryption error notification should be generated. A value of true(1) means that the notification is enabled A value of false(2) means that the notification is disabled" DEFVAL { true } ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects 2 } capwapBaseJoinFailureNotifyEnable OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX TruthValue MAX-ACCESS read-write STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents whether the notification of WTP join failure = should be generated. A value of true(1) means that the notification is enabled A value of false(2) means that the notification is disabled" DEFVAL { true } ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects 3 } capwapBaseImageUpgradeFailureNotifyEnable OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX TruthValue MAX-ACCESS read-write STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents whether the notification of WTP image upgrade=20 failure should be generated. A value of true(1) means that the notification is enabled A value of false(2) means that the notification is disabled" DEFVAL { true } ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects 4 } capwapBaseConfigMsgErrorNotifyEnable OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX TruthValue MAX-ACCESS read-write STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents whether the notification of configuration message=20 error should be generated. A value of true(1) means that the notification is enabled A value of false(2) means that the notification is disabled" DEFVAL { false } ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects 5 } capwapBaseRadioOperableStatusNotifyEnable OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX TruthValue MAX-ACCESS read-write STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents whether the notification of a radio's operational state change should be generated. A value of true(1) means that the notification is enabled A value of false(2) means that the notification is disabled" DEFVAL { false } ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects 6 } capwapBaseAuthenticationFailureNotifyEnable OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX TruthValue MAX-ACCESS read-write STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents whether the notification of authentication failure should be generated. A value of true(1) means that the notification is enabled A value of false(2) means that the notification is disabled" DEFVAL { true } ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects 7 } =20 In the Module compliance, the following changes are required. GROUP capwapBaseNotifyControlGroup DESCRIPTION "The capwapBaseNotifyControlGroup group is optional. If capwapBaseNotificationsGroup is supported, this group must be implemented." capwapBaseNotifyControlGroup OBJECT-GROUP OBJECTS { capwapBaseChannelUpDownNotifyEnable, capwapBaseDecryptErrorNotifyEnable, capwapBaseJoinFailureNotifyEnable, capwapBaseImageUpgradeFailureNotifyEnable, capwapBaseConfigMsgErrorNotifyEnable, capwapBaseRadioOperableStatusNotifyEnable, capwapBaseAuthenticationFailureNotifyEnable } STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Objects used to enable or disable notifications." ::=3D { capwapBaseGroups 18 } W: In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that some (or = all) of the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!! Section 7.2 of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06.txt states that The IF-MIB module is required to be supported on the AC. So when I see a MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected something = like: capwapBaseCompliance MODULE-COMPLIANCE STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Describes the requirements for conformance to the CAPWAP-BASE-MIB module." MODULE IF-MIB MANDATORY-GROUPS { some mandatory groups from the IF-MIB, possibly all? } ... potentially some optional groups from IF-MIB as well? ... and then follow the MANDATORY GROUPS of THIS MODULE (the CAPWAP-BASE-MIB module) MODULE -- this module MANDATORY-GROUPS { capwapBaseAcNodeGroup, capwapBaseWtpProfileGroup, capwapBaseWtpStateGroup, capwapBaseWtpGroup, capwapBaseRadioGroup, capwapBaseStationGroup } For an example, see RFC3811, but also RFC3289 But then, maybe if indeed the WHOLE IF-MIB MUST be supported, then = just stating that may be OK. [Editors] The following change would be added: MODULE IF-MIB -- The interfaces MIB, RFC2863 MANDATORY-GROUPS { ifGeneralInformationGroup } Regards Richard -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com=20 Versie: 9.0.716 / Virusdatabase: 270.14.113/2573 - datum van uitgifte: = 12/18/09 08:35:00 ------=_NextPart_000_1A56_01CA8173.DB9A11D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="GB2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looks good. If you send me a = (pre-release) c opy of=20 the new MIB module, I can run it through
SMICng to check it beofre you commit it = to a new=20 rev of the draft.
 
Bert
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 shiyang = 00338
To: bertietf@bwijnen.net ; capwap@frascone.com
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 = 9:38=20 AM
Subject: The changes according = to Bert's=20 comments

Hi, Bert:

The following are changes should be = done=20 according to your comments.
Thanks for your = guidance.

W:
SMICng=20 (strict checking) tells me:
 f(capwap-base.mi2), (851,17) Item = "capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress"
should have SIZE=20 specified
[Editors]
According to the following text in the = RFC5415=A3=ACThe=20 MAC Address is EUI-48
[EUI-48] or EUI-64.
So the change would = follow the=20 Bert=A1=AFs guidance:
   =20 capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress  PhysAddress  (SIZE=20 (6|8))
Also,
For the TC CapwapBaseStationIdTC and = CapwapBaseWtpIdTC, the=20 size should be:
OCTET STRING (SIZE (6|8))

 [new = issue]
1)=20 Also Bert raised another issue: Although the Reference of=20 the
capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress tells the Section 4.6.40 in = the=20 RFC5415,
it does not clearly tell that the MIB object corresponding = to the=20 sub
element Base MAC Address in the RFC5415.
[Editors]
The=20 description would be updated according to the Bert=A1=AFs=20 suggestion.

capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress =20 OBJECT-TYPE
   SYNTAX      = PhysAddress=20 (SIZE(6|8))
   MAX-ACCESS  read-only
   = STATUS      current
  =20 DESCRIPTION
       "Represents the = WTP's Base=20 MAC Address, which MAY = be
       =20 assigned to the primary Ethernet=20 interface.
        The instance = of the=20 object corresponds to the Base MAC Address=20
        sub-element in the = CAPWAP=20 protocol [RFC 5415]."
  =20 REFERENCE
       "Section 4.6.40. of = CAPWAP=20 Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."

The description of=20 capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress would do a similar = change.

W:
SMICng=20 (strict checking) tells me:
f(capwap-base.mi2), (974,17) Item=20 "capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress" should have
SIZE=20 specified
[Editors]
According to the following text in the = RFC5415=A3=ACThe=20 MAC Address is EUI-48
[EUI-48] or EUI-64.
The change would = follow the=20 Bert=A1=AFs guidance:
    = capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress=20 PhysAddress  (SIZE (6|8))

W:
SMICng (strict checking) = tells=20 me:
f(capwap-base.mi2), (2038,17) Item "capwapBaseNtfStationIdList" = should=20 have
SIZE specified
[Editors]
Suggest=20 capwapBaseNtfStationIdList  OCTET STRING (SIZE = (6..1024))
Should the=20 size give a minimal value 6? Thus, at least, it should contain
one = item of=20 Station Id (EUI-48).
[Bert]
If an empty list is not = allowed/wanted, then=20 yep, do use a min size that can
contain one element. But this is up = to the=20 WG to decide.
[Status]
Need WG confirm it.

W:
SMICng = (strict=20 checking) tells me:
f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row=20 "capwapBaseStationEntry" does not have a
consistent indexing = sche
me -=20 cannot specify an index item from additional "base = row"
capwapBaseWtpEntry,=20 since can have only
one "base row" which is=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
The INDEX is as = follows:

  =20 INDEX {
    =20 capwapBaseWtpCurrId,
    =20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId,
    =20 capwapBaseStationId
   }

The first one is the = first index=20 in another table
The second one is the 2nd index in yet another=20 table
The 3rd one is an index (the 3rd one) in this table=20 capwapBaseStaionTable.

That is indeed some sort of weird = indexing. So=20 that is why SMICng gives a
warning.
It does not mean it is = absolutely a=20 fatal error. But it would be good that
the CAPWAP
WG checks if = this is=20 indeed the indexing they intended and wanted
[Editors]
To bert: = I=20 updated it here.
I think the index is correct. =
capwapBaseWtpCurrId is=20 to indicate the Id of WTPs which are connecting to
the = AC.
Another index=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileId is together=20 with
capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId.
capwapBaseWtpProfileId is = to=20 identify a WTP profile which would be used by a
specific WTP=20 (capwapBaseWtpCurrId). Since the relationship = between
capwapBaseWtpCurrId=20 and capwapBaseWtpProfileId is 1:1,
the index capwapBaseWtpProfileId = +=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId could work together.

So the = index in=20 such way should be ok.
Yes, It would be better if the description = could=20 give some explain to the
reason.
Could you suggest the text for = it?=20 Thanks.

W:
SMICng (strict checking) tells = me:
f(capwap-base.mi2),=20 (1509,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does not
have a = consistent=20 ind
exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional = "base=20 row"
capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
have only one "base row" = which is=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry

Here the index objects=20 are:

   INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId,=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId }

That looks better, but again = the the=20 2nd index is a 2nd index object in
another
table that gets added = as the=20 2nd index here. Pls make sure this is what the
WG intends and wants = and=20 that the indexing makes sense.


For these "does not have a=20 consistent indexing scheme" warnings, it would be
good to = add
some=20 comment lines to the MIB module that explain why this indexing=20 is
OK/INTENDED.
Something like:

   -- The = following=20 indexing is intended because we want to show a = table
that
  =20 -- ... here you text ...
   INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId,=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId }

That way, when the SYNTAX = check is=20 done, and the MIB doctor checks the MIB
module,
then he can see = the=20 explanation and see that the indexing is indeed intended
and=20 nit
inconsistent by accident.
 [Editors] same as above=20 one.


W:
capwapBaseAcNameListRowStatus=20 OBJECT-TYPE
   SYNTAX     =20 RowStatus
   MAX-ACCESS  read-create
   = STATUS      current
  =20 DESCRIPTION
       "This variable is = used to=20 create, modify, and/or delete a=20 row
        in this=20 table."
   ::=3D { capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 4 }

I = thought=20 that a RowStatus object MUST describe if and under = which
conditions
any=20 writable (including read-create) objects can be modified if the row=20 is
Active?

The same holds true for some (all?) other = RowStatus=20 objects
[Editors]
Yes,the description of RowStatus objects = should be=20 updated.      =20
       =
capwapBaseAcNameListRowStatus=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      = RowStatus
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
    STATUS      = current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "This object = is used=20 to create, modify, and/or delete a row=20
         in this=20 table.
         All the = objects in=20 a row can be modified only when the=20 value
         of this = object in=20 the corresponding conceptual row is=20 not
         ''active''. = Thus to=20 modify one or more of the objects in=20
         this conceptual=20 = row,
           = ;  =20 a. change the row status to=20 = ''notInService'',
        &nbs= p;    =20 b. change the values of the=20 = row
           =   =20 c. change the row status to=20 ''active''
         The=20 capwapBaseAcNameListRowStatus may be changed to ''active''=20
         if all the = managed=20 objects in the conceptual row with=20
         MAX-ACCESS = read-create=20 have been assigned valid=20 values."        =20
    ::=3D { capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 4=20 }
   
capwapBaseMacAclRowStatus=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      = RowStatus
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
    STATUS      = current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "This object = is used=20 to create, modify, and/or delete a row=20
         in this=20 table.
         All the = objects in=20 a row can be modified only when the=20 value
         of this = object in=20 the corresponding conceptual row is=20 not
         ''active''. = Thus to=20 modify one or more of the objects in=20
         this conceptual=20 = row,
           = ;  =20 a. change the row status to=20 = ''notInService'',
        &nbs= p;    =20 b. change the values of the=20 = row
           =   =20 c. change the row status to=20 ''active''
         The=20 capwapBaseMacAclRowStatus may be changed to ''active''=20
         if all the = managed=20 objects in the conceptual row with=20
         MAX-ACCESS = read-create=20 have been assigned valid=20 = values."           = ;   =20
    ::=3D { capwapBaseMacAclEntry 3 = }
   =20
capwapBaseWtpProfileRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE
   =20 SYNTAX      RowStatus
   =20 MAX-ACCESS  read-create
   =20 STATUS      current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "This object = is used=20 to create, modify, and/or delete a=20 row
         in this=20 table.
         The value = of=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileName can be changed when this=20
         object is in = state=20 ''active'' or in=20 ''notInService''
         = The other=20 objects in a row can be modified only when the=20 value
         of this = object in=20 the corresponding conceptual row is=20 not
         ''active''. = Thus to=20 modify one or more of the objects in=20
         this conceptual=20 = row,
           = ;  =20 a. change the row status to=20 = ''notInService'',
        &nbs= p;    =20 b. change the values of the=20 = row
           =   =20 c. change the row status to=20 ''active''
         The=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileRowStatus may be changed to ''active''=20
         if the managed = objects=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileName, =
        =20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpMacAddr,=20
        =20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpModelNumber, capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName=20
         and=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpLocation in the conceptual row=20
         have been = assigned valid=20 values.=20 =
           &nb= sp;    =20
         Deleting a WTP = profile in=20 use will disconnect the WTP to=20
         the AC. So the = network=20 management system = SHOULD
        =20 ask the operator to confirm such an=20 operation.
         When a = WTP=20 profile entry is removed from the table,=20
         the corresponding = WTP=20 Virtual Radio Interfaces are also=20
         removed from the=20 CapwapBaseWirelessBindingTable and=20
         ifTable=20 [RFC2863].
         Also, = the=20 related object instances SHOULD be removed=20 from
         the wireless = binding=20 MIB modules such as IEEE 802.11=20
         MIB module=20 [IEEE.802-11.2007]."
    ::=3D { = capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 21=20 }     
    =
   =20
    Dot11 MIB:
   =20
capwapDot11WlanRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE
   =20 SYNTAX      RowStatus
   =20 MAX-ACCESS  read-create
   =20 STATUS      current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "This = variable is=20 used to create, modify, and/or delete a=20 row
         in this=20 table.
         All the = objects in=20 a row can be modified only when the=20 value
         of this = object in=20 the corresponding conceptual row is=20 not
         ''active''. = Thus to=20 modify one or more of the objects in=20
         this conceptual=20 = row,
           = ;  =20 a. change the row status to=20 = ''notInService'',
        &nbs= p;    =20 b. change the values of the=20 = row
           =   =20 c. change the row status to=20 ''active''
         The=20 capwapDot11WlanRowStatus may be changed to ''active''=20
         if all the = managed=20 objects in the conceptual row with=20
         MAX-ACCESS = read-create=20 have been assigned valid=20 values.        =20
        =20
         When the operator = deletes=20 a WLAN profile, the AC SHOULD=20
         check whether the = WLAN=20 profile is bound with a radio.=20
         If yes, the value = of the=20 Response-PDU's error-status field=20
         is set to=20 `inconsistentValue', and the value of its=20
         error-index field = is set=20 to the index of the failed=20 variable
         binding. = If not,=20 the row object could be deleted."
    ::=3D {=20 capwapDot11WlanEntry 5 }  =20
       =20
capwapDot11WlanBindRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE
   =20 SYNTAX      RowStatus
   =20 MAX-ACCESS  read-create
   =20 STATUS      current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "This = variable is=20 used to create, modify, and/or delete a=20 row
         in this=20 table.
         All the = objects in=20 a row can be modified only when the=20 value
         of this = object in=20 the corresponding conceptual row is=20 not
         ''active''. = Thus to=20 modify one or more of the objects in=20
         this conceptual=20 = row,
           = ;  =20 a. change the row status to=20 = ''notInService'',
        &nbs= p;    =20 b. change the values of the=20 = row
           =   =20 c. change the row status to ''active''"     =20
    ::=3D { capwapDot11WlanBindEntry 3=20 }       
   =20
w:
capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE
  =20 SYNTAX      InetAddress
  =20 MAX-ACCESS  read-create
  =20 STATUS      current
  =20 DESCRIPTION
       "When=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpEnable is=20 true,
        it represents the = static=20 IP address to be assigned to the WTP."
  =20 REFERENCE
       "Section 4.6.48. of = CAPWAP=20 Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
I thought that nay object of = SYNTAX=20 InetAddress MUST state in its
DESCRIPTION
clause which object of = SYNTAX=20 InetAddressType specifies the format?
Further, it seems that "dns" = is a=20 valid InetAddressType. So in that case,
the
DESCRIPTION clauses = MUST=20 explain when the dns name is resolved.
See RFC4001 for = details.
Same=20 question for various other objects of SYNATX InetAddress.

[Bert = new=20 comment]
Also, Bert wonder why there are no IPv6 support on=20 the
capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType.
I added a NOTEs in the=20 description.

[Editors]

1) For=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp

The change would=20 be:

capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      = InetAddressType
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
    STATUS      = current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = the=20 static IP address type used by the=20 WTP.
         Only ipv4(1) = and=20 ipv4z(3) are supported by the=20 object.
         Although = the=20 CAPWAP protocol (RFC5415) supports both=20 IPv4
         and IPv6, = note that=20 the CAPWAP field modelled by this=20
         object does not = support=20 IPv6, so the object does not=20
         support ipv6(2) = and=20 ipv6z(4)."
   =20 REFERENCE
        "Section = 4.6.48. of=20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC=20 5415."        =
    ::=3D {=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 8 } 
   =20
capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE
   =20 SYNTAX      InetAddress
    = MAX-ACCESS  read-create
   =20 STATUS      current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "When=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpEnable is true,=20
         it represents the = static=20 IP address to be assigned to the=20 WTP.
         The format of = this IP=20 address is determined by the=20
         corresponding = instance of=20 object
        =20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType."
   =20 REFERENCE
        "Section = 4.6.48. of=20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
    ::=3D = {=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 9 }

capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpNetmask=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      = InetAddress
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
    STATUS      = current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "When=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpEnable is true,=20
         it represents the = netmask=20 to be assigned to the = WTP.
        =20 The format of this netmask is determined by the=20
         corresponding = instance of=20 object
        =20 = capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType."      =   =20
    = REFERENCE
       =20 "Section 4.6.48. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC=20 5415."
    ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 10=20 }

capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpGateway = OBJECT-TYPE
   =20 SYNTAX      InetAddress
    = MAX-ACCESS  read-create
   =20 STATUS      current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "When=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpEnable is true,=20
         it represents the = gateway=20 to be assigned to the = WTP.
        =20 The format of this IP address is determined by the=20
         corresponding = instance of=20 object
        =20 = capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType."      =  =20
    = REFERENCE
       =20 "Section 4.6.48. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC=20 5415."
    ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 11 = }

2)=20 For capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddress
The change would=20 be:

capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      = InetAddressType
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-only
    STATUS     =20 current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = the IP=20 address type of a = WTP.
        =20 Only ipv4(1), ipv6(2), ipv4z(3), ipv6z(4) and=20 dns(16)
         are = supported by=20 the object."        =
   =20 ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 2 }   =20

capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddress = OBJECT-TYPE
   =20 SYNTAX      InetAddress
    = MAX-ACCESS  read-only
   =20 STATUS      current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = the IP=20 address of a WTP.
         = The=20 format of this IP address is determined=20 by
         the = corresponding=20 instance of object =
        =20 capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType."
    ::=3D {=20 capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 3 = }

W:
capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport=20 OBJECT-TYPE
   SYNTAX      = INTEGER=20 = {
           &n= bsp;    =20 = limited(0),
         &nbs= p;      =20 = fullAndLimited(1)
        &nbs= p;     =20 }
   MAX-ACCESS  read-create
  =20 STATUS      current

Normally we = recommend that=20 ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, unless
there is a good reason = (which=20 we then like to see in the DESCRIPTION
clause).
So... what is = the=20 reason?
Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
And for:=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
And possibly others!! pls=20 check.
[Editors]
There is a lot of capwap variables are defined = using=20 enumerated value
start from 0, such as 4.6.21.  Discovery = Type, =20 4.6.34.  Radio
Operational State, 4.6.44.  WTP MAC=20 Type...
Just think using the same values as what defined in the=20 capwap
protocol will make the MIB easier to use.

Would add a = note in=20 the description of the=20 =
capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport:

capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnS= upport=20 OBJECT-TYPE
   SYNTAX      = INTEGER=20 = {
           &n= bsp;    =20 = limited(0),
         &nbs= p;      =20 = fullAndLimited(1)
        &nbs= p;     =20 }
   MAX-ACCESS  read-create
  =20 STATUS      current
  =20 DESCRIPTION
       "Represents the = support=20 for the Explicit Congestion=20 Notification
        (ECN) bits, = as=20 defined in [RFC3168].
        = The=20 following enumerated values are=20 supported:
         =20 limited(0)        - Limited ECN=20 support
         =20 fullAndLimited(1) - Full and limited ECN=20 support
        Note that the = CAPWAP=20 field [RFC 5415] modelled by this object
takes zero as Starting = value, this=20 MIB object follows this rule."
  =20 REFERENCE
       "Section 4.6.25. of = CAPWAP=20 Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
   ::=3D {=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 20 }


A same chane change would be = added=20 to the following MIB objects:
> CapwapBaseMacTypeTC
>=20 capwapBaseDataChannelDTLSPolicyConfig
>=20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport
> = capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
>=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
>=20 capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsLastFailType
>=20 capwapBaseNtfRadioOperStatusFlag
>=20 capwapBaseNtfRadioStatusCause

[Bert new comments]
Bert could = live=20 with starting at zero.I would still think it
be better to start at = 1.
But I leave it now up to Dan to=20 decide.

W:
capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount=20 OBJECT-TYPE
   SYNTAX     =20 Counter32
   MAX-ACCESS  read-only
  =20 STATUS      current
  =20 DESCRIPTION
       "Represents the = number of=20 reboots that have occurred at=20 the
        request of a CAPWAP = protocol=20 message, such as a change = in
       =20 configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit=20 CAPWAP
        protocol reset=20 request.  A value of 65535 implies that=20 this
        information is not=20 available on the WTP."
  =20 REFERENCE
       "Section 4.6.47. of = CAPWAP=20 Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
   ::=3D {=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 }

I do not believe that a = SYNTAX of=20 Counter32 allows any value (like the
65535)to have a specific = meaning !!!!!=20
This is impossible given the semantics for the Counter32=20 SYNTAX.

Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount
and = possibly=20 others, pls check and make sure.

[Editors]
According to the=20 suggestion in the CAPWAP mailing list, the change would=20 be:
capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount = OBJECT-TYPE
   =20 SYNTAX      Counter32
   =20 MAX-ACCESS  read-only
   =20 STATUS      current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = the=20 number of reboots that have occurred due to=20 a
         WTP=20 crash.
         Note that = the=20 CAPWAP field [RFC 5415] modelled by this=20 counter
         takes the = value=20 65535 to indicate that the information is=20 not
available
         = on the=20 WTP. This MIB object does not follow this behaviour=20 which
         would not be = standard in SMIv2. If the WTP does not have=20 = the
information,
         = the=20 agent will not instantiate the object."
   =20 REFERENCE
        "Section = 4.6.47. of=20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
    ::=3D = {=20 capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 1 }

 A same change would be = done to=20 the capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount.


W:
I wonder if = there is a=20 risk of sending too many notifications in a very
short time?
IS = there a=20 way to control the rate of notifications?
If the risk does not = exist, then=20 maybe some words about that would be good.
[Editors]
Yes, = controls flags=20 for the notification are necessary.
Also, using "TruthValue" likes=20 simple.

The changes would be:

-- Notification=20 Control
capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects OBJECT=20 IDENTIFIER
    ::=3D { capwapBaseObjects 6=20 }

capwapBaseChannelUpDownNotifyEnable =20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      = TruthValue
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-write
    STATUS     =20 current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = whether=20 the Channel Up/Channel Down=20 notification
         = should be=20 generated.
         A value = of=20 true(1) means that the notification is=20 enabled
         A value of = false(2) means that the notification is = disabled"
    DEFVAL=20 { false }
    ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects = 1=20 }

capwapBaseDecryptErrorNotifyEnable = OBJECT-TYPE
   =20 SYNTAX      TruthValue
   =20 MAX-ACCESS  read-write
   =20 STATUS      current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = whether=20 the decryption error notification=20 should
         be=20 generated.
         A value = of=20 true(1) means that the notification is=20 enabled
         A value of = false(2) means that the notification is = disabled"
    DEFVAL=20 { true }
    ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects = 2=20 }

capwapBaseJoinFailureNotifyEnable = OBJECT-TYPE
   =20 SYNTAX      TruthValue
   =20 MAX-ACCESS  read-write
   =20 STATUS      current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = whether=20 the notification of WTP join failure=20 should
         be=20 generated.
         A value = of=20 true(1) means that the notification is=20 enabled
         A value of = false(2) means that the notification is = disabled"
    DEFVAL=20 { true }
    ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects = 3=20 }

capwapBaseImageUpgradeFailureNotifyEnable=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      = TruthValue
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-write
    STATUS     =20 current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = whether=20 the notification of WTP image upgrade=20
         failure should be = generated.
         A value = of=20 true(1) means that the notification is=20 enabled
         A value of = false(2) means that the notification is = disabled"
    DEFVAL=20 { true }
    ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects = 4=20 }

capwapBaseConfigMsgErrorNotifyEnable=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      = TruthValue
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-write
    STATUS     =20 current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = whether=20 the notification of configuration message=20
         error should be=20 generated.
         A value = of=20 true(1) means that the notification is=20 enabled
         A value of = false(2) means that the notification is = disabled"
    DEFVAL=20 { false }
    ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects = 5=20 }

capwapBaseRadioOperableStatusNotifyEnable=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      = TruthValue
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-write
    STATUS     =20 current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = whether=20 the notification of a radio's=20 operational
         state = change=20 should be = generated.
         A=20 value of true(1) means that the notification is=20 enabled
         A value of = false(2) means that the notification is = disabled"
    DEFVAL=20 { false }
    ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects = 6=20 }

capwapBaseAuthenticationFailureNotifyEnable=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      = TruthValue
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-write
    STATUS     =20 current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
       "Represents = whether the=20 notification of authentication=20 failure
        should be=20 generated.
        A value of = true(1)=20 means that the notification is=20 enabled
        A value of = false(2)=20 means that the notification is disabled"
    DEFVAL = { true=20 }
    ::=3D { capwapBaseNotifyControlObjects 7=20 }
   
In the Module compliance, the following = changes=20 are required.

 GROUP=20 capwapBaseNotifyControlGroup
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "The=20 capwapBaseNotifyControlGroup group is=20 optional.
         If=20 capwapBaseNotificationsGroup is=20 supported,
         this = group must=20 be implemented."

capwapBaseNotifyControlGroup=20 OBJECT-GROUP
    OBJECTS = {
     =20 capwapBaseChannelUpDownNotifyEnable,
      = capwapBaseDecryptErrorNotifyEnable,
     =20 capwapBaseJoinFailureNotifyEnable,
     =20 = capwapBaseImageUpgradeFailureNotifyEnable,
    &nb= sp;=20 = capwapBaseConfigMsgErrorNotifyEnable,
     =20 = capwapBaseRadioOperableStatusNotifyEnable,
    &nb= sp;=20 capwapBaseAuthenticationFailureNotifyEnable
   = }
  =20 STATUS  current
  =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Objects = used to=20 enable or disable notifications."
   ::=3D { = capwapBaseGroups 18=20 }

W:
In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at = least that=20 some (or all)
of
the IF-MIB module would also be=20 mandatory???!!!

Section 7.2 of = draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06.txt states=20 that
      The IF-MIB module is required = to be=20 supported on the AC.

So when I see a MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would = have=20 expected something like:

capwapBaseCompliance=20 MODULE-COMPLIANCE
  STATUS current
 =20 DESCRIPTION
      "Describes the = requirements for=20 conformance to the
       = CAPWAP-BASE-MIB=20 module."

  MODULE  = IF-MIB
     =20 MANDATORY-GROUPS=20 {
           some = mandatory groups from the IF-MIB, possibly=20 all?
      }
  ... potentially = some=20 optional groups from IF-MIB as well?

  ... and then follow = the=20 MANDATORY GROUPS of THIS MODULE (the
CAPWAP-BASE-MIB = module)

 =20 MODULE -- this module
    MANDATORY-GROUPS=20 {
     =20 capwapBaseAcNodeGroup,
     =20 capwapBaseWtpProfileGroup,
     =20 capwapBaseWtpStateGroup,
     =20 capwapBaseWtpGroup,
     =20 capwapBaseRadioGroup,
     =20 capwapBaseStationGroup
    }

For an example, = see=20 RFC3811, but also RFC3289

But then, maybe if indeed the WHOLE = IF-MIB=20 MUST be supported, then just
stating that
may be=20 OK.

 [Editors]
The following change would be=20 added:

    MODULE IF-MIB -- The interfaces MIB,=20 RFC2863
    MANDATORY-GROUPS=20 {
      =20 ifGeneralInformationGroup
   =20 }

Regards
Richard


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The drafts text was updated according to the discussion in the mailing list. I already sent the updated drafts to the reviewer and ask them to confirm whether the changes are ok or not. There are few open issues left. Please remind me if I missed any one. 1) > Section 9 refers to a usage of > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement or not. > It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not > required. [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. [Status] open 2) > [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the MIB > definitions, most of which are not called out in this review. I > strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of English > prior to IESG Review. [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. [Status] open 3) > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a MIB > draft? MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the protocol that > they provide management for. This section, and the changes in Section > 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be standards track. [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. [Status] open 4) W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1343,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" does not have a consistent indexing sche me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1568,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does not have a consistent ind exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry [Reviewer] The issue was raised by Bert. [Editors] It needs more explain in the object's description [Status] Richard and Yong are preparing text I believe the new drafts could be post soon once we have conclusion for all the Open issues. Regards Richard _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 21 01:24:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E8628C0CF for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:24:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.122 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.122 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.476, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tGe8AqLunQ6h for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E46A3A6910 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACF7E182AA for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44BBE24A9E for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D1834AC026 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:23:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409E634AC007 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:23:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from relay.versatel.net (relay56.tele2.vuurwerk.nl [62.250.3.56]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.215.199.34] (helo=BertLaptop) by relay.versatel.net with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NMeUJ-0000Ri-6Z; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:23:35 +0100 Message-ID: <8BBF98F427274290AC718E0E75C70881@BertLaptop> From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" To: "young" , , , References: <001301ca8207$29570070$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> In-Reply-To: <001301ca8207$29570070$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:22:50 +0100 Organization: Consultant MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Cc: yzhang@fortinet.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] The Status of the CAPWAP WG MIB issues X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0895275963==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0895275963== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1C59_01CA8227.8CA4DAB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1C59_01CA8227.8CA4DAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SMICng Syntax check is clea now except for the 21 awarnings about index. AS we stated, that is OK... as long as explanation gets added. I noticed: capwapBaseAcNameListName OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX OCTET STRING(SIZE(512)) MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the name of an AC, and it is expected to be an UTF-8 encoded string." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.5. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::=3D { capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 2 } It seems weird to me (now taht I see this) that the size should be exact = 512 octets ???? Did you mean max size 512 octets? There is probably a minimum size too? And if it is UTF-8 , then it would be much better to use a proper UTF-8 = syntax. If you look here: http://ops.ietf.org/mib-common-tcs.html you can find pointers/suggestions. If the size needs to be 512, then LongUtf8String seems the one to choose = (with a SIZE of course). For this one capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddressType {ipv4(1), ipv4z(3)} MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current I recommended to subtype, because ith is ONLY IPv4, AND because it is a writable object. This one capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddress (SIZE(6|8)) Should be capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddress (SIZE(4|8)) And for this one: capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddressType { ipv4(1), ipv6(2), ipv4z(3), ipv6z(4), dns(16) } MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the IP address type of a WTP. Only ipv4(1), ipv6(2), ipv4z(3), ipv6z(4) and dns(16) are supported by the object." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 2 } I had not recommended to use the subtyping. There are 2 reasons: - it basically supports everything (OK, except the unknown). - it is read-only, so having all subtypes listed out is not needed as much as in a the case of a writable object. It is not incorrect = however. But this: capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddress OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddress (SIZE(4|8|16|20)) MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the IP address of a WTP. The format of this IP address is determined by the corresponding instance of object capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 3 } Seems wrong to me. a DNS name can be up to 255 characters I think. In any case, it is often much longer than 20. I would not specify a size = here. I can live with your approach that rows must be made notInService, then = changed, then set=20 back to active. But it is somewhat of a burdon to a Network Management = Station (application). So I would think hard if it is really needed. Would it be allowed to = just change some rows, or some objects in a row while it is active? If such changes on an = active row do not jeopardize the service, then you might want to consider allowing that. Bert ----- Original Message -----=20 From: young=20 To: capwap@frascone.com ; Black_David@emc.com ; 'Bert Wijnen (IETF)' ; = elwynd@dial.pipex.com=20 Cc: yzhang@fortinet.com=20 Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:30 AM Subject: The Status of the CAPWAP WG MIB issues Hi, All: Till now, I got the review comments from David, Bert and Elwyn. The drafts text was updated according to the discussion in the mailing = list. I already sent the updated drafts to the reviewer and ask them to = confirm whether the changes are ok or not. There are few open issues left. Please remind me if I missed any one. 1)=20 > Section 9 refers to a usage of > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement or not. > It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not=20 > required. [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. [Status] open 2) > [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the MIB=20 > definitions, most of which are not called out in this review. I=20 > strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of English=20 > prior to IESG Review. [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. [Status] open 3) > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a MIB=20 > draft? MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the protocol = that=20 > they provide management for. This section, and the changes in = Section=20 > 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be standards track.=20 [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. [Status] open 4)=20 W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1343,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" does not = have a consistent indexing sche me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1568,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" = does not have a consistent ind exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry [Reviewer] The issue was raised by Bert. [Editors] It needs more explain in the object's description=20 [Status] Richard and Yong are preparing text I believe the new drafts could be post soon once we have conclusion = for all the Open issues. Regards Richard -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. 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SMICng Syntax check is clea now except for the 21 = awarnings=20 about index.
AS we stated, that is OK... as long as explanation = gets=20 added.
 
I noticed:
capwapBaseAcNameListName = OBJECT-TYPE
   =20 SYNTAX      OCTET=20 STRING(SIZE(512))
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
    STATUS     =20 current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = the name=20 of an AC, and it is expected to=20 be
         an UTF-8 encoded=20 string."
   =20 REFERENCE
        "Section 4.6.5. = of=20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
    ::=3D {=20 capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 2 }
It seems weird to me (now taht I see this) that the = size=20 should be exact 512 octets ????
Did you mean max size 512 octets? There is probably a minimum size=20 too?
 
And if it is UTF-8 , then it would be much better to = use a=20 proper UTF-8 syntax.
If you look here: http://ops.ietf.org/mib-= common-tcs.html
you can find pointers/suggestions.
 
If the size needs to be 512, then LongUtf8String = seems the one=20 to choose (with a SIZE of course).
 
For this one
capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX     =20 InetAddressType {ipv4(1), ipv4z(3)}
    = MAX-ACCESS =20 read-create
    STATUS     =20 current
 
I recommended to subtype, because ith is ONLY IPv4, = AND=20 because it is a
writable object.
 
This one
capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX     =20 InetAddress (SIZE(6|8))
 
Should be
capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX     =20 InetAddress (SIZE(4|8))
 
 
And for this one:
capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX     =20 InetAddressType=20 {
           &n= bsp;     =20 ipv4(1),
          &= nbsp;      =20 ipv6(2),
          &= nbsp;      =20 ipv4z(3),
          =        =20 ipv6z(4),
          =        =20 dns(16)
          &n= bsp;    =20 }
    MAX-ACCESS  read-only
    = STATUS      current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = the IP=20 address type of a = WTP.
         Only=20 ipv4(1), ipv6(2), ipv4z(3), ipv6z(4) and=20 dns(16)
         are = supported by the=20 object."
    ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 2 = }
 
I had not recommended to use the subtyping. There = are 2=20 reasons:
- it basically supports everything (OK, except the=20 unknown).
- it is read-only, so having all subtypes = listed out is=20 not needed
  as much as in a the case of a writable = object. It is=20 not incorrect however.
 
But this:
capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddress=20 OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX     =20 InetAddress (SIZE(4|8|16|20))
    MAX-ACCESS =20 read-only
    STATUS     =20 current
   =20 DESCRIPTION
        "Represents = the IP=20 address of a WTP.
         = The format=20 of this IP address is determined=20 by
         the corresponding = instance of object
        =20 capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType."
    ::=3D {=20 capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 3 }
 
Seems wrong to me. a DNS name can be up to 255 = characters I=20 think.
In any case, it is often much longer than 20. I = would not=20 specify a size here.
 
I can live with your approach that rows must be made = notInService, then changed, then set
back to active. But it is somewhat of a burdon to a = Network=20 Management Station (application).
So I would think hard if it is really needed. Would = it be=20 allowed to just change some rows,
or some objects in a row while it is active? If such = changes=20 on an active row do not
jeopardize the service, then you might want to = consider=20 allowing that.
 
Bert
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 young =
To: capwap@frascone.com ; Black_David@emc.com ; 'Bert Wijnen=20 (IETF)' ; elwynd@dial.pipex.com
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 = 7:30=20 AM
Subject: The Status of the = CAPWAP WG MIB=20 issues

Hi, = All:

Till=20 now, I got the review comments from David, Bert and Elwyn.
The = drafts text=20 was updated according to the discussion in the mailing list.
I = already sent=20 the updated drafts to the reviewer and ask them to confirm
whether = the=20 changes are ok or not.

There are few open issues left. Please = remind me=20 if I missed any one.
1)
> Section 9 refers to a usage = of
>=20 Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement=20 or
not.
> It is not normative text and multi-vendor = interoperability=20 is not
> required.
[Reviewer] The issue was raised by=20 David.
[Status] open

2)
> [*] I see lots of editorial = problems=20 in the text prior to the MIB
> definitions, most of which are = not=20 called out in this review. I
> strongly suggest an editorial = pass by a=20 native speaker of English
> prior to IESG Review.
[Reviewer] = The=20 issue was raised by David.
[Status] open

3)
> [*] Why = is=20 Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a MIB
> = draft? =20 MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the protocol that
> = they=20 provide management for.  This section, and the changes in Section =
> 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be standards = track.=20
[Reviewer] The issue was raised by David.
[Status] = open

4)=20
W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1343,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" does = not have=20 a
consistent indexing sche
me - cannot specify an index item = from=20 additional "base row"
capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have = only
one "base=20 row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
W: f(capwap-base.mi2), = (1568,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does
not have a = consistent=20 ind
exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional = "base=20 row"
capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
have only one "base row" = which is=20 capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
[Reviewer] The issue was raised by=20 Bert.
[Editors] It needs more explain in the object's description=20
[Status] Richard and Yong are preparing text

I believe the = new=20 drafts could be post soon once we have conclusion for = all
the
Open=20 issues.

Regards
Richard




Geen virus gevonden in het = binnenkomende-bericht.
Gecontroleerd=20 door AVG - www.avg.com
Versie: = 9.0.717 /=20 Virusdatabase: 270.14.116/2578 - datum van uitgifte: 12/20/09=20 20:35:00
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boundary="===============1664012752==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1664012752== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_shIFKvHYcnslrvFQxb/XLg)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_shIFKvHYcnslrvFQxb/XLg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Bert: =20 Ok, there are two issues keep open=20 1) Index 2) RowStatus =20 Check my comments inline. =20 -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Bert Wijnen (IETF) [mailto:bertietf@bwijnen.net]=20 =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA12=D4=C221=C8=D5 17:23 =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: young; capwap@frascone.com; Black_David@emc.com; elwynd@dial.pipex.com =B3=AD=CB=CD: yzhang@fortinet.com =D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: The Status of the CAPWAP WG MIB issues =20 SMICng Syntax check is clea now except for the 21 awarnings about index. AS we stated, that is OK... as long as explanation gets added. =20 I noticed: capwapBaseAcNameListName OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX OCTET STRING(SIZE(512)) MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the name of an AC, and it is expected to be an UTF-8 encoded string." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.5. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::=3D { capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 2 } It seems weird to me (now taht I see this) that the size should be exact = 512 octets ???? Did you mean max size 512 octets? There is probably a minimum size too? =20 And if it is UTF-8 , then it would be much better to use a proper UTF-8 syntax. If you look here: http://ops.ietf.org/mib-common-tcs.html you can find pointers/suggestions. =20 If the size needs to be 512, then LongUtf8String seems the one to choose (with a SIZE of course). [Richard] Oh, a mistake. It should be OCTET STRING (SIZE(1..512)) for capwapBaseAcNameListName. The capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName and capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpLocation need changes. capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX OCTET STRING (SIZE(1..512)) =20 capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpLocation OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX OCTET STRING (SIZE(1..1024)) =20 For this one capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddressType {ipv4(1), ipv4z(3)} MAX-ACCESS read-create STATUS current =20 I recommended to subtype, because ith is ONLY IPv4, AND because it is a writable object. [Richard] Yes =20 This one capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddress (SIZE(6|8)) =20 Should be capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddress (SIZE(4|8)) [Richard] Yes =20 And for this one: capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddressType { ipv4(1), ipv6(2), ipv4z(3), ipv6z(4), dns(16) } MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the IP address type of a WTP. Only ipv4(1), ipv6(2), ipv4z(3), ipv6z(4) and dns(16) are supported by the object." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 2 } =20 I had not recommended to use the subtyping. There are 2 reasons: - it basically supports everything (OK, except the unknown). - it is read-only, so having all subtypes listed out is not needed as much as in a the case of a writable object. It is not incorrect however. [Richard] =20 Ok, no subtyping list required here. I am clear this time. =20 But this: capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddress OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX InetAddress (SIZE(4|8|16|20)) MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the IP address of a WTP. The format of this IP address is determined by the corresponding instance of object capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType." ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 3 } =20 Seems wrong to me. a DNS name can be up to 255 characters I think. In any case, it is often much longer than 20. I would not specify a size here. [Richard] =20 Ok, no subtyping list required here. =20 =20 I can live with your approach that rows must be made notInService, then changed, then set=20 back to active. But it is somewhat of a burdon to a Network Management Station (application). So I would think hard if it is really needed. Would it be allowed to = just change some rows, or some objects in a row while it is active? If such changes on an = active row do not jeopardize the service, then you might want to consider allowing that. [Richard] Yes, Before I sent out the new draft, I was hesitating here whether = should give more flexibility to NMS.. OK, I would give an answer tomorrow. =20 =20 Bert =20 =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: young =20 To: capwap@frascone.com ; Black_David@emc.com ; 'Bert Wijnen (IETF)' ; elwynd@dial.pipex.com=20 Cc: yzhang@fortinet.com=20 Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:30 AM Subject: The Status of the CAPWAP WG MIB issues =20 Hi, All: Till now, I got the review comments from David, Bert and Elwyn. The drafts text was updated according to the discussion in the mailing = list. I already sent the updated drafts to the reviewer and ask them to = confirm whether the changes are ok or not. There are few open issues left. Please remind me if I missed any one. 1)=20 > Section 9 refers to a usage of > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement or not. > It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not=20 > required. [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. [Status] open 2) > [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the MIB=20 > definitions, most of which are not called out in this review. I=20 > strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of English=20 > prior to IESG Review. [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. [Status] open 3) > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a MIB=20 > draft? MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the protocol that=20 > they provide management for. This section, and the changes in Section = > 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be standards track.=20 [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. [Status] open 4)=20 W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1343,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" does not = have a consistent indexing sche me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1568,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" = does not have a consistent ind exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry [Reviewer] The issue was raised by Bert. [Editors] It needs more explain in the object's description=20 [Status] Richard and Yong are preparing text I believe the new drafts could be post soon once we have conclusion for = all the Open issues. Regards Richard _____ =20 Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. 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   Hi, = Bert:

 

     Ok, there are two = issues keep open

1)      Index

2)      RowStatus

 

Check my = comments inline.

 

-----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD= =BC=FE-----
=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Bert = Wijnen (IETF) [mailto:bertietf@bwijnen.net]
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: = 2009=C4=EA12=D4=C221=C8=D5 17:23
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: = young; capwap@frascone.com; Black_David@emc.com; elwynd@dial.pipex.com
=B3=AD=CB=CD: = yzhang@fortinet.com
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: The = Status of the CAPWAP WG MIB issues

 

SMICng Syntax check is clea now except for the 21 awarnings about = index.

AS we stated, that is OK... as long as explanation gets added.

 

I = noticed:

capwapBaseAcNameListName OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      OCTET = STRING(SIZE(512))
    MAX-ACCESS  read-create
    STATUS      current
    DESCRIPTION
        "Represents the name of = an AC, and it is expected to be
         an UTF-8 encoded = string."
    REFERENCE
        "Section 4.6.5. of = CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
    ::=3D { capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 2 = }

It seems weird to me (now taht I see this) that the size should be exact 512 octets = ????

Did you mean max size 512 octets? There is probably a minimum size = too?

 

And if it is UTF-8 , then it would be much better to use a proper UTF-8 = syntax.

you can find pointers/suggestions.

 

If the size needs to be 512, then LongUtf8String seems the one to choose (with a = SIZE of course).

[Richard]

Oh, a mistake. It should be OCTET STRING (SIZE(1..512))  for = capwapBaseAcNameListName.

The = capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName and capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpLocation need changes.

    = capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName  OBJECT-TYPE

   =     SYNTAX      OCTET STRING (SIZE(1..512))

 

capwapBaseWtpProfileW= tpLocation  OBJECT-TYPE

    =    SYNTAX      OCTET STRING (SIZE(1..1024))

 

For this one

capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      InetAddressType {ipv4(1), ipv4z(3)}
    MAX-ACCESS  read-create
    STATUS      = current

 

I = recommended to subtype, because ith is ONLY IPv4, AND because it is = a

writable object.

 [Richard] Yes

 

This one

capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      InetAddress = (SIZE(6|8))

 

Should be

capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      InetAddress = (SIZE(4|8))

  [Richard]  Yes

 

And for this one:

capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      InetAddressType = {
            &= nbsp;     ipv4(1),
            &= nbsp;     ipv6(2),
            &= nbsp;     ipv4z(3),
            &= nbsp;     ipv6z(4),
            &= nbsp;     dns(16)
            &= nbsp;   }
    MAX-ACCESS  read-only
    STATUS      current
    DESCRIPTION
        "Represents the IP = address type of a WTP.
         Only ipv4(1), ipv6(2), ipv4z(3), ipv6z(4) and dns(16)
         are supported by the object."
    ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 2 }

 

I = had not recommended to use the subtyping. There are 2 reasons:

- = it basically supports everything (OK, except the unknown).

- it is read-only, so having all subtypes listed out is not = needed

  as much as in a the case of a writable object. It is not incorrect = however.

   [Richard] 

   Ok, no subtyping list required here. I am clear this time.

 

But this:

capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddress OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      InetAddress = (SIZE(4|8|16|20))
    MAX-ACCESS  read-only
    STATUS      current
    DESCRIPTION
        "Represents the IP = address of a WTP.
         The format of this IP = address is determined by
         the corresponding = instance of object
         = capwapBaseWtpStateWtpIpAddressType."
    ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpStateEntry 3 }

 

Seems wrong to me. a DNS name can be up to 255 characters I think.

In any case, it is often much longer than 20. I would not specify a size = here.

   [Richard] 

   Ok, no subtyping list required here.

 

 

I = can live with your approach that rows must be made notInService, then changed, = then set

back to active. But it is somewhat of a burdon to a Network Management Station (application).

So I would think hard if it is really needed. Would it be allowed to just change = some rows,

or some objects in a row while it is active? If such changes on an active row do = not

jeopardize the service, then you might want to consider allowing = that.

[Richard]

Yes, Before I sent out the new draft, I was hesitating here whether should give more = flexibility to NMS..

 OK, I would give an answer tomorrow.

 

 

Bert

 

 

 

----- Original = Message -----

From: young =

Cc:<= /font> yzhang@fortinet.com

Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 7:30 AM

Subject: The Status of the CAPWAP WG MIB issues

 

Hi, All:

Till now, I got the review comments from David, Bert and Elwyn.
The drafts text was updated according to the discussion in the mailing = list.
I already sent the updated drafts to the reviewer and ask them to = confirm
whether the changes are ok or not.

There are few open issues left. Please remind me if I missed any = one.
1)
> Section 9 refers to a usage of
> Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement = or
not.
> It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not =
> required.
[Reviewer] The issue was raised by David.
[Status] open

2)
> [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the MIB =
> definitions, most of which are not called out in this review. I =
> strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of English =
> prior to IESG Review.
[Reviewer] The issue was raised by David.
[Status] open

3)
> [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a MIB =
> draft?  MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the = protocol that
> they provide management for.  This section, and the changes in Section
> 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be standards track. =
[Reviewer] The issue was raised by David.
[Status] open

4)
W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1343,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" = does not have a
consistent indexing sche
me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base = row"
capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only
one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1568,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does
not have a consistent ind
exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row"
capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
have only one "base row" which is = capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
[Reviewer] The issue was raised by Bert.
[Editors] It needs more explain in the object's description
[Status] Richard and Yong are preparing text

I believe the new drafts could be post soon once we have conclusion for = all
the
Open issues.

Regards
Richard



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Still one comment: young wrote: > > Hi, Bert: > > > I noticed: > > capwapBaseAcNameListName OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX OCTET STRING(SIZE(512)) > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the name of an AC, and it is expected to be > an UTF-8 encoded string." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.5. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." > ::= { capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 2 } > > It seems weird to me (now taht I see this) that the size should be > exact 512 octets ???? > > Did you mean max size 512 octets? There is probably a minimum size too? > > And if it is UTF-8 , then it would be much better to use a proper > UTF-8 syntax. > > If you look here: http://ops.ietf.org/mib-common-tcs.html > > you can find pointers/suggestions. > > If the size needs to be 512, then LongUtf8String seems the one to > choose (with a SIZE of course). > > [Richard] > > Oh, a mistake. It should be OCTET STRING (SIZE(1..512)) for > capwapBaseAcNameListName. > > The capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName and capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpLocation > need changes. > > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName OBJECT-TYPE > > SYNTAX OCTET STRING (SIZE(1..512)) > OK, that is good for the SIZE (although 1 seems very short. But that is what the RFC5415 specifies, so fine). But RFC5415 slaso states that it is a UTF-8 string, ans so does your DESCRITPION clause. So I would STRONGLY recommend to use longUtf8String as the SYNTAX. You have to import it from the SYSAPPL-MIB [RFC2287]: Or, if you do not want to epend on that RFC, then define a UTF-8 based TC yourself. That is to say, I would prefer a UTF-8 based TC as SYNTAX over a OCTET-STRING. OCTET STRING is not strictly an error though, so if the WG really wants to keep that, then pls check with yoru AD if he is OK with that. Bert _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 21 05:10:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6CF28C117 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:10:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.559 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.559 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.805, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_SUB_ENC_GB2312=1.345] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OoQV079y4tFQ for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:10:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8266E28C128 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C60E182AB for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:09:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51AAE24A9E for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B9534AC026 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:09:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDB534AC007 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:09:47 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dromasca@avaya.com whitelisted) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:09:47 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,430,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="195219428" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 21 Dec 2009 08:09:46 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 21 Dec 2009 08:09:05 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:08:41 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4B2F6A91.9000305@bwijnen.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: =?gb2312?B?W0NhcHdhcF0gtPC4tDogVGhlIFN0YXR1cyBvZiB0aGUgQ0FQV0FQIA==?= =?gb2312?B?V0cgTUlCIGlzc3Vlcw==?= Thread-Index: AcqCOY7MlLvejVNWTyyXlrgGRonhOAABOv/A References: <001d01ca8233$637a68b0$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> <4B2F6A91.9000305@bwijnen.net> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" , "young" Cc: yzhang@fortinet.com, capwap@frascone.com, elwynd@dial.pipex.com, Black_David@emc.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] =?gb2312?b?tPC4tDogVGhlIFN0YXR1cyBvZiB0aGUgQ0FQV0FQIFdH?= =?gb2312?b?IE1JQiBpc3N1ZXM=?= X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bert (IETF) Wijnen [mailto:bertietf@bwijnen.net] > > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName OBJECT-TYPE > > > > SYNTAX OCTET STRING (SIZE(1..512)) > > > > OK, that is good for the SIZE (although 1 seems very short. > But that is what the RFC5415 specifies, so fine). But RFC5415 > slaso states that it is a UTF-8 string, ans so does your > DESCRITPION clause. So I would STRONGLY recommend to use > longUtf8String as the SYNTAX. You have to import it from the > SYSAPPL-MIB [RFC2287]: Or, if you do not want to epend on > that RFC, then define a UTF-8 based TC yourself. That is to > say, I would prefer a UTF-8 based TC as SYNTAX over a OCTET-STRING. > OCTET STRING is not strictly an error though, so if the WG > really wants to keep that, then pls check with yoru AD if he > is OK with that. > > Bert I actually favor the reuse of existing TC's - so better in my opinion IMPORT from RFC 2287 rather than define a new TC. Dan _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 21 10:22:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7D73A6892 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:22:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.752 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.752 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.153, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QPRBr+0IhWcl for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2038E3A6A87 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DCBE18277 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:21:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1902CE24A99 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB971CD481 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:21:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B481CD49D for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:21:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (128.222.32.20 whitelisted by list.dnswl.org 9.2) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (mexforward.lss.emc.com [128.222.32.20]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si03.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI03.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.23]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.3.2/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id nBLILDiJ001980 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:21:13 -0500 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (nagas.lss.emc.com [10.254.144.15]) by hop04-l1d11-si03.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:21:08 -0500 Received: from corpussmtp4.corp.emc.com (corpussmtp4.corp.emc.com [10.254.169.197]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.3.2mp) with ESMTP id nBLIL68G006323; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:21:07 -0500 Received: from CORPUSMX80B.corp.emc.com ([10.254.89.203]) by corpussmtp4.corp.emc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:21:06 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:21:05 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001301ca8207$29570070$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: The Status of the CAPWAP WG MIB issues Thread-Index: AcqCByjphjC3KHPvSpaFNzZLdgL6+QAYMVvg References: <001301ca8207$29570070$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> From: To: , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2009 18:21:06.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[5CB599F0:01CA826A] X-EMM-EM: Active Cc: yzhang@fortinet.com, Black_David@emc.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] The Status of the CAPWAP WG MIB issues X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Richard, Items 1) and 3) are the same issue, and cannot be resolved at this stage of the process - they will be handled by the IESG. The details are that my Gen-ART review is advisory; your responsible AD (Dan Romascanu) has expressed a view that the document should not be split, and he and I have "agreed to disagree" on this. The General AD (Russ Housley) will decide what, if anything, he wants to see done about this. The RFC Editor will deal with some of item 2), but I'm disappointed that your draft co-authors are not stepping up to do something about this. Thanks, --David > -----Original Message----- > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:31 AM > To: capwap@frascone.com; Black, David; 'Bert Wijnen (IETF)'; elwynd@dial.pipex.com > Cc: yzhang@fortinet.com > Subject: The Status of the CAPWAP WG MIB issues > > Hi, All: > > Till now, I got the review comments from David, Bert and Elwyn. > The drafts text was updated according to the discussion in the mailing list. > I already sent the updated drafts to the reviewer and ask them to confirm > whether the changes are ok or not. > > There are few open issues left. Please remind me if I missed any one. > 1) > > Section 9 refers to a usage of > > Message Element Extensions which a vendor can chose to implement or > not. > > It is not normative text and multi-vendor interoperability is not > > required. > [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. > [Status] open > > 2) > > [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the MIB > > definitions, most of which are not called out in this review. I > > strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of English > > prior to IESG Review. > [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. > [Status] open > > 3) > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a MIB > > draft? MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the protocol that > > they provide management for. This section, and the changes in Section > > 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be standards track. > [Reviewer] The issue was raised by David. > [Status] open > > 4) > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1343,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" does not have a > consistent indexing sche > me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only > one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry > W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1568,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does > not have a consistent ind > exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" > capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can > have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry > [Reviewer] The issue was raised by Bert. > [Editors] It needs more explain in the object's description > [Status] Richard and Yong are preparing text > > I believe the new drafts could be post soon once we have conclusion for all > the > Open issues. > > Regards > Richard > > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-archive@ietf.org Mon Dec 21 11:02:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4526D3A6A87 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:02:47 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, Non-encoded 8-bit data (char AE hex): From: VIAGRA \256 Online Shop ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipfm-B-164.orbisnet.cz (unknown [77.48.85.164]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC97D3A6881 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:02:37 -0800 (PST) From: VIAGRA ® Online Shop To: capwap-archive@ietf.org Subject: Valued customer capwap-archive@ietf.org 80% OFF on Pfizer. 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 21 22:12:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0DF3A69C5 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:12:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.301 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.298, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lH8Zwh20XWrY for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC953A696A for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FB2F5403B for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:12:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD219E24A99 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AC234AC028 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:11:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E6134AC025 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:11:54 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (young@h3c.com whitelisted) Received: from huawei-3com.com (unknown [221.12.31.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei-3com.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0KV100IJ2IULPJ@h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com> for capwap@frascone.com; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:18:21 +0800 (CST) Received: from h3cmta02-ds.h3c.com ([172.25.12.70]) by h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0KV100IO1IULII@h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com> for capwap@frascone.com; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:18:21 +0800 (CST) Received: from smtp2.h3c.com ([172.25.14.252]) by h3cmta02-ds.h3c.com (Lotus Domino Release 8.5FP1) with ESMTP id 2009122214072465-298963 ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:07:24 +0800 Received: from unknown (HELO s00338) ([10.154.68.129]) by smtp2.h3c.com with ESMTP; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:06:48 +0800 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:07:16 +0800 From: young To: "'Bert (IETF) Wijnen'" , capwap@frascone.com Message-id: <001e01ca82cd$0374c010$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on h3cmta02-ds/h3c(Release 8.5FP1|June 15, 2009) at 2009-12-22 14:07:24, Serialize by Router on h3cmta02-ds/h3c(Release 8.5FP1|June 15, 2009) at 2009-12-22 14:07:24, Serialize complete at 2009-12-22 14:07:24 Thread-index: AcqCzQMVLC8UahhQSQmfuJ6dNYxuHg== Cc: yzhang@fortinet.com Subject: [Capwap] Index issue of the station table X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi, Bert: I discuss with Yong today. Please check our opinion to the Index. The index design of apwapBaseStationEntry could be simplified. The capwapBaseStationEntry is to display station which is associated with the specific radio on the WTP. I used to concern the roaming case (A station association with Two AP at same time), so give a very complex design of the indexes. Since the roaming time is very short, it is valid to use capwapBaseStationId As one and only index. It is also good for the performance. Also, I suggest to add a note to explain the roaming case: Notes that in the some cases such as roaming that a station may associate with two WTPs at a certain time, the MIB implementation MUST ensure there is only one entry for a specific station. Base on it, the change would be: capwapBaseStationTable OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX SEQUENCE OF CapwapBaseStationEntry MAX-ACCESS not-accessible STATUS current DESCRIPTION "A table of objects that display stations which are accessing the wireless service provided by the AC." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.8. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::= { capwapBaseWtps 5 } capwapBaseStationEntry OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX CapwapBaseStationEntry MAX-ACCESS not-accessible STATUS current DESCRIPTION "A set of objects that display a station which is associated with the specific radio on the WTP. Notes that in the some cases such as roaming that a station may associate with two WTPs at a certain time, the MIB implementation MUST ensure there is only one entry for a specific station. " INDEX { capwapBaseStationId } ::= { capwapBaseStationTable 1 } CapwapBaseStationEntry ::= SEQUENCE { capwapBaseStationId CapwapBaseStationIdTC, capwapBaseStationWtpId CapwapBaseWtpIdTC, capwapBaseStationWtpRadioId CapwapBaseRadioIdTC, capwapBaseStationAddedTime DateAndTime, capwapBaseStationVlanName SnmpAdminString } capwapBaseStationId OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX CapwapBaseStationIdTC MAX-ACCESS not-accessible STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the unique identifier of the station." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.8. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 1 } capwapBaseStationWtpId OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX CapwapBaseWtpIdTC MAX-ACCESS not-accessible STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the unique identifier of a WTP in running state." ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 2 } capwapBaseStationWtpRadioId OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX CapwapBaseRadioIdTC MAX-ACCESS not-accessible STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the identifier of a PHY radio on a WTP, which is required to be unique on a WTP. For example, WTP A and WTP B use a same value of capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId for their first radio." REFERENCE "Section 4.3. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 3 } capwapBaseStationAddedTime OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX DateAndTime MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the time when the station is added." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.8. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 4 } capwapBaseStationVlanName OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX SnmpAdminString (SIZE(0..32)) MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents VLAN name to which the station is associated." REFERENCE "Section 4.6.8. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 5 } Regards Richard _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Dec 21 23:50:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2573A6853 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:50:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.985 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.985 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.386, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6+r2Hg7hzNMO for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071853A68A9 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5ECF5404E for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:49:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA9DE24A99 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD74F34AC007 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:49:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E5A34AC005 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:49:54 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from postlady.ripe.net (postlady.ripe.net [193.0.19.65]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from herring.ripe.net ([193.0.1.203]) by postlady.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NMzUq-0005nJ-OV; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:49:38 +0100 Received: from ayeaye.ripe.net (ayeaye.ripe.net [193.0.1.103]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BCD2F583; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:49:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from dog.ripe.net ([193.0.1.217] helo=BWMACBOOK.local) by ayeaye.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NMzUq-00086o-I8; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:49:32 +0100 Message-ID: <4B307A0D.4020908@bwijnen.net> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:49:33 +0100 From: "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: young References: <001701ca82c7$04b19490$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> In-Reply-To: <001701ca82c7$04b19490$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd4159cecf93fc5a374ba8299081a4900d9 X-RIPE-Spam-Level: ---- X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd4159cecf93fc5a374ba8299081a4900d9 Cc: yzhang@fortinet.com, mib-doctors@ietf.org, capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] The RowStatus issue X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Richard, I think this looks good. You really need the opinion of some CAPWAP experts. They can best determine what it means if you change an attribute of a row during operational time (so while the row is active). One extra remark inline young wrote: > Hi, Bert: > > Thanks. Frankly, for me, it is very difficult to decide the flexibility > Of the RowStatus object. > Hope you and mailing list would give more opinion. > Combing with your and Zhang Yong's opinion, my suggestion is: > > 1) Give more flexibility to the capwapBaseAcNameListRowStatus and > capwapBaseMacAclRowStatus. > > capwapBaseAcNameListRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX RowStatus > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This object is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row > in this table. > The value of capwapBaseAcNameListName and > capwapBaseAcNameListPriority can be changed when this > object is in state ''active'' or in ''notInService''. > the above is great. However, I think that a row can ALWAYS be changed when it is in "notInService" state, so it is not needed to mention that. At the other hand, it does not hurt to do so either. Bert > The capwapBaseAcNameListRowStatus may be changed to ''active'' > if all the managed objects in the conceptual row with > MAX-ACCESS read-create have been assigned valid values." > ::= { capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 4 } > > capwapBaseMacAclRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX RowStatus > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This object is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row > in this table. > The value of capwapBaseMacAclStationId can be changed when > this object is in state ''active'' or in ''notInService''. > The capwapBaseMacAclRowStatus may be changed to ''active'' > if all the managed objects in the conceptual row with > MAX-ACCESS read-create have been assigned valid values." > > ::= { capwapBaseMacAclEntry 3 } > > 2) Give some flexibility to the capwapBaseWtpProfileRowStatus > Yes, I think it should be ok to allow more freely changing the > value of capwapBaseWtpProfileName > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName and capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpLocation, > since these object are to give a description. > > It is not ok to freely change the capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpMacAddr, > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpModelNumber, > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpEnable, > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpType, > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp, > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpNetmask, > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpGateway > since they are very important properties (configuration) influencing the > behaviour. > Also, their value need not frequent change. > > It is acceptable to freely change the object left such as > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpIdleTimeout. But I choose a conservative way: No > free change on them. > > According to this logic, I give the description as followed. > capwapBaseWtpProfileRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX RowStatus > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This object is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row > in this table. > The value of capwapBaseWtpProfileName, > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName and capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpLocation > can be changed when this object is in state ''active'' or in > ''notInService''. > The other objects in a row can be modified only when the value > of this object in the corresponding conceptual row is not > ''active''. Thus to modify one or more of the objects in > this conceptual row, > a. change the row status to ''notInService'' > b. change the values of the row > c. change the row status to ''active'' > The capwapBaseWtpProfileRowStatus may be changed to ''active'' > if the managed objects capwapBaseWtpProfileName, > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpMacAddr, > capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpModelNumber, capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpName > and capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpLocation in the conceptual row > have been assigned valid values. > > Deleting a WTP profile in use will disconnect the WTP to > the AC. So the network management system SHOULD > ask the operator to confirm such an operation. > When a WTP profile entry is removed from the table, > the corresponding WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces are also > removed from the CapwapBaseWirelessBindingTable and > ifTable [RFC2863]. > Also, the related object instances SHOULD be removed from > the wireless binding MIB modules such as IEEE 802.11 > MIB module [IEEE.802-11.2007]." > ::= { capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 21 } > > 4) Since there are no frequent change required and service based. > I suggest to keep current text. > > capwapDot11WlanBindRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX RowStatus > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This variable is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row > in this table. > All the objects in a row can be modified only when the value > of this object in the corresponding conceptual row is not > ''active''. Thus to modify one or more of the objects in > this conceptual row, > a. change the row status to ''notInService'', > b. change the values of the row > c. change the row status to ''active''" > ::= { capwapDot11WlanBindEntry 3 } > > capwapDot11WlanRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX RowStatus > MAX-ACCESS read-create > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This variable is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row > in this table. > All the objects in a row can be modified only when the value > of this object in the corresponding conceptual row is not > ''active''. Thus to modify one or more of the objects in > this conceptual row, > a. change the row status to ''notInService'', > b. change the values of the row > c. change the row status to ''active'' > The capwapDot11WlanRowStatus may be changed to ''active'' > if all the managed objects in the conceptual row with > MAX-ACCESS read-create have been assigned valid values. > > When the operator deletes a WLAN profile, the AC SHOULD > check whether the WLAN profile is bound with a radio. > If yes, the value of the Response-PDU's error-status field > is set to `inconsistentValue', and the value of its > error-index field is set to the index of the failed variable > binding. If not, the row object could be deleted." > ::= { capwapDot11WlanEntry 5 } > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Dec 22 00:02:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FE83A6875 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:02:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.974 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.974 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.375, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rxO5P6AUc0cT for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC4A3A68A9 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EDEF5403A for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C054E24A99 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6FE34AC007 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:02:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6074934AC005 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:02:31 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from postlady.ripe.net (postlady.ripe.net [193.0.19.65]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from herring.ripe.net ([193.0.1.203]) by postlady.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NMzh9-0006Fp-Tg; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:02:21 +0100 Received: from ayeaye.ripe.net (ayeaye.ripe.net [193.0.1.103]) by herring.ripe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6362F583; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:02:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from dog.ripe.net ([193.0.1.217] helo=BWMACBOOK.local) by ayeaye.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NMzh9-0008H2-P1; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:02:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4B307D09.7060006@bwijnen.net> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:02:17 +0100 From: "Bert (IETF) Wijnen" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: young References: <001e01ca82cd$0374c010$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> In-Reply-To: <001e01ca82cd$0374c010$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd40b3772dd1d2227863a3fe13467ad7663 X-RIPE-Spam-Level: ---- X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd40b3772dd1d2227863a3fe13467ad7663 Cc: yzhang@fortinet.com, capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Index issue of the station table X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com I suspect we need help from CAPWAP experts here. I have not followed CAPWAP work for 3-4 years now... so I am not up to speed on it. I have some comments inline anyways, but pls do not consider them necessarily valid. young wrote: > Hi, Bert: > > I discuss with Yong today. Please check our opinion to the Index. > The index design of apwapBaseStationEntry could be simplified. > > The capwapBaseStationEntry is to display station > which is associated with the specific radio on the WTP. > I used to concern the roaming case (A station association with > Two AP at same time), so give a very complex design of the indexes. > > Since the roaming time is very short, it is valid to use capwapBaseStationId > As one and only index. > It is also good for the performance. > Also, I suggest to add a note to explain the roaming case: > Notes that in the some cases such as roaming that a station may > associate > with two WTPs at a certain time, the MIB implementation MUST > ensure there is only one entry for a specific station. > > The indexing is indeed (much) simpler... but... If there is a possibility of two associations, how do we answer these questions: - which of the two entries should be shown in the MIB? - what if (because of some problem) the situation exists for a longer time (maybe forever?) that would probably be a bug, but if so, that is something one would like to be able to detect with querying the MIB, no? > Base on it, the change would be: > capwapBaseStationTable OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX SEQUENCE OF CapwapBaseStationEntry > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "A table of objects that display stations which are accessing > the wireless service provided by the AC." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.8. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." > ::= { capwapBaseWtps 5 } > > capwapBaseStationEntry OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX CapwapBaseStationEntry > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "A set of objects that display a station which is > associated with the specific radio on the WTP. > Notes that in the some cases such as roaming that a station may > associate > with two WTPs at a certain time, the MIB implementation MUST > ensure there is only one entry for a specific station. " > > INDEX { capwapBaseStationId } > ::= { capwapBaseStationTable 1 } > > CapwapBaseStationEntry ::= SEQUENCE { > capwapBaseStationId CapwapBaseStationIdTC, > capwapBaseStationWtpId CapwapBaseWtpIdTC, > capwapBaseStationWtpRadioId CapwapBaseRadioIdTC, > capwapBaseStationAddedTime DateAndTime, > capwapBaseStationVlanName SnmpAdminString > } > > capwapBaseStationId OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX CapwapBaseStationIdTC > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the unique identifier of the station." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.8. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." > ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 1 } > > capwapBaseStationWtpId OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX CapwapBaseWtpIdTC > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > since this is no longer an INDEX object, it should probably be read-only!! > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the unique identifier of a WTP in running state." > ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 2 } > > capwapBaseStationWtpRadioId OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX CapwapBaseRadioIdTC > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > since this is no longer an INDEX object, it should probably be read-only!! > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the identifier of a PHY radio on a WTP, which > is required to be unique on a WTP. > For example, WTP A and WTP B use a same value of > capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId for their first radio." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.3. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." > ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 3 } > > capwapBaseStationAddedTime OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX DateAndTime > MAX-ACCESS read-only > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the time when the station is added." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.8. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." > ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 4 } > > capwapBaseStationVlanName OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX SnmpAdminString (SIZE(0..32)) > MAX-ACCESS read-only > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents VLAN name to which the station is associated." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.6.8. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." > ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 5 } > > Regards > Richard > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org Tue Dec 22 02:02:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7358D3A6B0A for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:02:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -81.812 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-81.812 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR=2.426, HELO_EQ_SK=1.35, HOST_EQ_SK=0.555, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9krE+T1nNl9j for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dial-95-105-134-81-orange.orange.sk (dial-95-105-134-81-orange.orange.sk [95.105.134.81]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289193A6B0F for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:02:19 -0800 (PST) From: Online Dating Service To: capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: 7 new messages from ladies for you (dating) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20091222100220.289193A6B0F@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:02:19 -0800 (PST) Newsletter Dear member of our Dating site!
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Ihre Nachricht wird nicht automatisch weitergeleitet. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Dec 22 19:52:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8745A3A687D for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.355 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.355 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.244, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FSeWUhJv+0rs for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450033A6832 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1170BE182A9 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92130E24A99 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5658834AC028 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F8D34AC005 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:02 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (young@h3c.com whitelisted) Received: from huawei-3com.com (unknown [221.12.31.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:52:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei-3com.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0KV3009RX6Z6DE@h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com> for capwap@frascone.com; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:57:06 +0800 (CST) Received: from h3cmta02-ds.h3c.com ([172.25.12.70]) by h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0KV30058N6Z6AG@h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com> for capwap@frascone.com; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:57:06 +0800 (CST) Received: from smtp2.h3c.com ([172.25.14.252]) by h3cmta02-ds.h3c.com (Lotus Domino Release 8.5FP1) with ESMTP id 2009122311460865-347939 ; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:46:08 +0800 Received: from unknown (HELO s00338) ([10.154.68.129]) by smtp2.h3c.com with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:45:28 +0800 Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:46:00 +0800 From: young To: "'Bert (IETF) Wijnen'" , capwap@frascone.com Message-id: <002701ca8382$71841870$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on h3cmta02-ds/h3c(Release 8.5FP1|June 15, 2009) at 2009-12-23 11:46:08, Serialize by Router on h3cmta02-ds/h3c(Release 8.5FP1|June 15, 2009) at 2009-12-23 11:46:08, Serialize complete at 2009-12-23 11:46:08 Thread-index: AcqDgnErb5Qs3m+URQqw7c/CL+2vtA== Cc: 'Yong Zhang' Subject: [Capwap] The index of capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi, Bert: In fact, the current Index of capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry is correct but not easy to understand. The reason is: I tried to avoid redefining the new object in the CapwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry. So I reused the capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId which comes from capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry. It caused the logic become difficult to understand, Since the capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry talks about configuration (Binding relationship) while here (capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry) talk about the statistic data of a running AP (identified by capwapBaseWtpCurrId). I think the simple way is to define a new Radio Id object in the capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry. The change would be: capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX CapwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry MAX-ACCESS not-accessible STATUS current DESCRIPTION "A set of objects that display the statistic data of events happened on a specific radio of a WTP." INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseRadioEventsWtpRadioId } ::= { capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsTable 1 } CapwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry ::= SEQUENCE { capwapBaseRadioEventsWtpRadioId CapwapBaseRadioIdTC, capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsResetCount Counter32, capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsSwFailCount Counter32, capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsHwFailCount Counter32, capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsOtherFailCount Counter32, capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsUnknownFailCount Counter32, capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsConfigUpdateCount Counter32, capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsChannelChangeCount Counter32, capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsBandChangeCount Counter32, capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsCurrentNoiseFloor Integer32, capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsDecryptErrorCount Counter32, capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsLastFailType INTEGER } see: I add a new Radio Id object. capwapBaseRadioEventsWtpRadioId OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX CapwapBaseRadioIdTC MAX-ACCESS not-accessible STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Represents the identifier of a PHY radio on a WTP, which is required to be unique on a WTP. For example, WTP A and WTP B use a same value of capwapBaseRadioEventsWtpRadioId for their first radio." REFERENCE "Section 4.3. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 1} I think it is better to add more explain in the description of the CapwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry: To get all radios' event statistic on a specific WTP (identified by the capwapBaseWtpCurrId), it needs a query operation SHOULD run from radio ID 1 to radio ID 31 till there is no data returned. The radio ID here corresponds To the object capwapBaseRadioEventsWtpRadioId. If the previous MIB operations such as query on the CapwapBaseWirelessBindingTable know the exact value of each radio ID, the Query operation on the capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsTable could use that value of Radio IDs. 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(Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: young References: <002701ca8382$71841870$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> In-Reply-To: <002701ca8382$71841870$81449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd4ab2f3286e62e2f247000876ce7be3c49 X-RIPE-Spam-Level: ---- X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd4ab2f3286e62e2f247000876ce7be3c49 Cc: capwap@frascone.com, 'Yong Zhang' Subject: Re: [Capwap] The index of capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com young wrote: > Hi, Bert: > > In fact, the current Index of capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry is correct but > not easy to understand. > The reason is: > I tried to avoid redefining the new object in the > CapwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry. > So I reused the capwapBaseWirelessBindingRadioId which comes from > capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry. > It caused the logic become difficult to understand, Since the > capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry talks about configuration (Binding > relationship) while here (capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry) talk about the > statistic data > of a running AP (identified by capwapBaseWtpCurrId). > > I think the simple way is to define a new Radio Id object in the > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry. > > The change would be: > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX CapwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "A set of objects that display the statistic data of > events happened on a specific radio of a WTP." > INDEX { capwapBaseWtpCurrId, capwapBaseRadioEventsWtpRadioId } > ::= { capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsTable 1 } > > CapwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry ::= SEQUENCE { > capwapBaseRadioEventsWtpRadioId CapwapBaseRadioIdTC, > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsResetCount Counter32, > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsSwFailCount Counter32, > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsHwFailCount Counter32, > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsOtherFailCount Counter32, > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsUnknownFailCount Counter32, > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsConfigUpdateCount Counter32, > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsChannelChangeCount Counter32, > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsBandChangeCount Counter32, > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsCurrentNoiseFloor Integer32, > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsDecryptErrorCount Counter32, > capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsLastFailType INTEGER > } > see: I add a new Radio Id object. > capwapBaseRadioEventsWtpRadioId OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX CapwapBaseRadioIdTC > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Represents the identifier of a PHY radio on a WTP, which > is required to be unique on a WTP. > For example, WTP A and WTP B use a same value of > capwapBaseRadioEventsWtpRadioId for their first radio." > REFERENCE > "Section 4.3. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415." > ::= { capwapBaseStationEntry 1} > > I think it is better to add more explain in the description of the > CapwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry: > To get all radios' event statistic on a specific WTP (identified by the > capwapBaseWtpCurrId), it needs a query operation SHOULD run from radio ID 1 > to radio ID 31 till there is no data returned. The radio ID here corresponds > To the object capwapBaseRadioEventsWtpRadioId. > If the previous MIB operations such as query on the > CapwapBaseWirelessBindingTable know the exact value of each radio ID, the > Query operation on the capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsTable could use that value > of Radio IDs. > > Regards > Richard > > > > > It looks like this may indeed work. And it will get drid of the :inconsistent indexing" warning from SMICng. 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Dec 24 15:25:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3813A6405 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:25:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.68 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.68 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, CN_BODY_35=0.339, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MfMsAmdYfEjP for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B093A6820 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C09E18277 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:24:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCACE24A9E for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214EA3610001 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:26:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C8C34AC005 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:26:58 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-vw0-f190.google.com (mail-vw0-f190.google.com [209.85.212.190]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:26:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by vws28 with SMTP id 28so1862548vws.16 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:26:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.127.80 with SMTP id f16mr8181575vcs.107.1261456015134; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:26:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0f4201ca729f$4e947880$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> References: <003001ca716f$06911380$80449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> <0deb01ca71da$dccd1f00$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> <0f4201ca729f$4e947880$a1135d85@china.huawei.com> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:26:55 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Perkins To: David Harrington X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:24:48 -0800 Cc: capwap@frascone.com, yzhang@fortinet.com, young , Chris Elliott Subject: Re: [Capwap] My (Richard) comments to the Gen-ART review ofdraft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06 X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1627440878==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com --===============1627440878== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68ee947ae9243047b499da4 --0016e68ee947ae9243047b499da4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI, If you would like me to take a look at any specific issues, please list the= m and the deadline for a response. Also, I'd prefer that this gmail email address was not made public. I know that all email sent to dperkins@snmpinfo will currently bounce, since that the input queue is full of junk email, which I haven't yet had the time to remove and switch to another system that does reasonable spam filtering. However, that is the email address that should be used. By the way, I have had the same phone number 408-394-8702 for many years, and don't plan on changing it. You can reach me there. Finally, I'm trying to arrange to attend the spring IETF meeting to throw a 20th birthday and a SMIC is free party. If so, then you can see that I'm still around. PS Look who is one of the coaches of the San Carlos city champion AA Littl= e League team in 2009. http://www.sancarlosll.org/ My guy in 3rd from the right in the front row. Regards, /david t. perkins 2009/12/1 David Harrington > Hi, > > David Perkin's email should also be updated in the MIB drafts. > Try dperkins3600@gmail.com > > You should ask if he needs his address and affiliation updated as > well. > > your friendly email hunter-downer, > dbh > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Harrington [mailto:ietfdbh@comcast.net] > > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:34 AM > > To: 'young'; Black_David@emc.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; > > yzhang@fortinet.com; gen-art@ietf.org; mrw@lilacglade.org; > > dromasca@avaya.com > > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > > Subject: Re: [Capwap] My (Richard) comments to the Gen-ART > > review ofdraft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06 > > > > Try chelliot@gmail.com > > > > dbh > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:42 PM > > > To: Black_David@emc.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; > > > yzhang@fortinet.com; gen-art@ietf.org; mrw@lilacglade.org; > > > dromasca@avaya.com > > > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > > > Subject: [Capwap] My (Richard) comments to the Gen-ART review > > > of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06 > > > > > > Hi, All : > > > > > > Please check my comments identified by the [Richard]. > > > To David: Thanks a lot. > > > > > > > The important open issues that need to be resolved are tagged > with > > > > > > [*]. > > > > > > > > [*] Intended document status is now Informational. That > > > needs to be > > > > changed on the title page, but more importantly, someone (draft > > > > shepherd?) should double-check whether the requested IANA > > > allocations > > > > are appropriate for an Informational document. If there's a > > problem > > > > here, the IESG should be warned that a process exception may be > > > > needed, as I think the allocations are necessary for this draft. > > > > > > [Richard] Margaret or Dan, please confirm it. > > > > > > > > [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the > MIB > > > > definitions, most of which are not called out in this review. I > > > > strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of > English > > > > prior to IESG Review. Here's an example from Section > > > > > > [Richard] Margaret or Dan, please consider how to handle it. > > > For the text, I can't do better job than a native speaker of > > English:( > > > > > > > 5.6 - the use of the word "conception" is incorrect in this > > phrase: > > > > the protocol of [RFC5416] defines WLAN conception > > > > A better word would be "creation". > > > > > > [Richard] Hi, David. Whether "management" instead of "creation" > is > > > better? > > > > > > > Terminology section: > > > > - Add a definition of PHY, it's undefined in this document. > > > > > > [Richard] It is a very general conception. > > > I checked the RFC5415, it does not give the definition of PHY. > > > How about: physical layer (PHY) in the place where it first > appears? > > > I am ok with adding a definition of PHY if it is a better > solution. > > > > > > > - Add a definition of WLAN, while it's defined elsewhere, WLAN > > > > is a crucial concept for this draft and hence needs a > > > > definition here. > > > [Richard] I am ok. > > > > > > > - The definition of station (STA) is sufficiently general to > > > > include WTPs. Was that intended? > > > > > > [Richard] I got the definition of station (STA) and WTP from > > RFC5415. > > > > > > > Section 5.1 should explain the division of management of a > > > WTP between > > > > the actual CAPWAP protocol and this MIB. The first bullet > creates > > > > > > this confusion, and that bullet is not consistent with the first > > > > > bullet in 5.4. That lack of consistency should be corrected in > > > > > addition to providing the explanation. > > > [Richard] I did not get the point. Kindly give more input > > > > > > > Section 5.4: "The ifIndex [RFC2863] is used as a common handler" > I > > > > > > don't think it's a "handler". The ifIndex is actually an index. > > > [Richard] How about use "index" instead of "handler". > > > > > > > [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415. > > > That's not a > > > > good idea for an Informational document. It is ok to say > > > that if the > > > > additional requirements are not followed, this MIB will not > > > be useful > > > > or usable. > > > [Richard] > > > The WG already made the consensus on it after IETF 75th, > > > and the WG agree to use the following text. > > > The section 4.6.40 [RFC5415] does not clarify that the WTP's Base > > MAC > > > address MUST be included in the WTP Board Data message element. > > This > > > is a known errata item and assumed to be fixed in future by > > > the editors of > > > the RFC5415. > > > > > > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a MIB > > > > > draft? MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the > > > protocol that > > > > they provide management for. This section, and the changes > > > in Section > > > > 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be standards > track. > > > > > > [Richard] Margaret or Dan, please confirm whether it is > > > allowed to have > > > the Message Element Extension in the MIB drafts. > > > The "manageable" in the current text "To enable CAPWAP > > > protocol timers and > > > variables [RFC5415] manageable through CAPWAP protocol" is > > > not very clear. > > > Maybe the word "viewable " is better. > > > How about we use the text "To enable CAPWAP protocol timers > > > and variables > > > [RFC5415] viewable on the AC through CAPWAP protocol" ? > > > > > > Since the MIB objects (such as "capwapBaseAcMaxRetransmit" ) > > > corresponding > > > to the CAPWAP protocol timers and variables are optional, > > > whether it is > > > required to add some text > > > in the Section 9 to clarify that the CAPWAP Message Element > > > Extension is > > > optional? > > > > > > > Appendix A (change history) should include a request to the > > > RFC Editor > > > > to remove it before publication of the RFC. > > > [Richard] It is ok. > > > > > > > idnits 2.11.15 found a couple of nits: > > > > > > > > =3D=3D The document seems to lack a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378 > > > work, but > > > > was > > > > first submitted before 10 November 2008. Should you add the > > > > > disclaimer? > > > > (See the Legal Provisions document at > > > > http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info for more information.). > > > > > > [Richard] It is ok. > > > > > > > =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-05) exists of > > > > draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04 > > > > > > [Richard] It is ok. > > > > > > The following recipient(s) could not be reached: > > > > > > chelliot@cisco.com on 11/25/2009 7:43 PM > > > The e-mail system was unable to deliver the > > > message, but did not > > > report a specific reason. Check the address and try again. > > > If it still > > > fails, contact your system administrator. > > > < sj-inbound-d.cisco.com #5.0.0 smtp; 5.1.0 - > > > Unknown address > > > error 550-'5.1.1 ... User unknown' (delivery > > > attempts: 0)> > > > > > > [Richard] I am not able get the Chris' other email address. > > > Do the chairs or > > > > > > the mailing list know his other email address except the > > > chelliot@cisco.com? > > > > > > Regards > > > Richard > > > > > > -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- > > > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Black_David@emc.com [mailto:Black_David@emc.com] > > > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA11=D4=C226=C8=D5 8:48 > > > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: young@h3c.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; yzhang@fort= inet.com; > > > gen-art@ietf.org > > > =B3=AD=CB=CD: mmani@avaya.com; dorothy.gellert@gmail.com; > > mrw@lilacglade.org; > > > dromasca@avaya.com; capwap@frascone.com; Black_David@emc.com > > > =D6=F7=CC=E2: RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06 > > > > > > Another open issue is that the email address for Chris Elliott > > > in this draft is wrong and needs to be corrected ... > > > > > > The following recipient(s) could not be reached: > > > > > > chelliot@cisco.com on 11/25/2009 7:43 PM > > > The e-mail system was unable to deliver the > > > message, but did > > > not report a specific reason. Check the address and try again. > If > > it > > > still fails, contact your system administrator. > > > < sj-inbound-d.cisco.com #5.0.0 smtp; 5.1.0 - Unknown > > > address error 550-'5.1.1 ... User > > > unknown' (delivery > > > attempts: 0)> > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > --David > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Black, David > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:43 PM > > > > To: young@h3c.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; chelliot@cisco.com; > > > > yzhang@fortinet.com; gen-art@ietf.org > > > > Cc: Black, David; mmani@avaya.com; dorothy.gellert@gmail.com; > > > > mrw@lilacglade.org; Dan (Dan) Romascanu; capwap@frascone.com > > > > Subject: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06 > > > > > > > > I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) > > > > reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see > > > > http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). > > > > > > > > Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call > > > > comments you may receive. > > > > > > > > Document: draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06 > > > > Reviewer: David L. Black > > > > Review Date: November 25, 2009 > > > > IETF LC End Date: December 7, 2009 > > > > > > > > Summary: > > > > This draft is on the right track, but has open issues, described > > > > in the review. > > > > > > > > Comments: > > > > This draft defines a MIB for the CAPWAP protocol. It also > extends > > > > that protocol, which is a peculiar thing to do in a MIB > document. > > > > I've left review of the actual MIB definitions to the expertise > > > > of the MIB Doctors. > > > > > > > > The important open issues that need to be resolved are tagged > > > > with [*]. > > > > > > > > [*] Intended document status is now Informational. That needs > to > > > > be changed on the title page, but more importantly, someone > > > > (draft shepherd?) should double-check whether the requested > > > > IANA allocations are appropriate for an Informational document. > > > > If there's a problem here, the IESG should be warned that a > > > > process exception may be needed, as I think the allocations are > > > > necessary for this draft. > > > > > > > > [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the > > > > MIB definitions, most of which are not called out in this > review. > > > > I strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of > > > > English prior to IESG Review. Here's an example from Section > > > > 5.6 - the use of the word "conception" is incorrect in this > > phrase: > > > > the protocol of [RFC5416] defines WLAN conception > > > > A better word would be "creation". > > > > > > > > Terminology section: > > > > - Add a definition of PHY, it's undefined in this document. > > > > - Add a definition of WLAN, while it's defined elsewhere, WLAN > > > > is a crucial concept for this draft and hence needs a > > > > definition here. > > > > - The definition of station (STA) is sufficiently general to > > > > include WTPs. Was that intended? > > > > > > > > Section 5.1 should explain the division of management of a > > > > WTP between the actual CAPWAP protocol and this MIB. The > > > > first bullet creates this confusion, and that bullet is not > > > > consistent with the first bullet in 5.4. That lack of > > > > consistency should be corrected in addition to providing > > > > the explanation. > > > > > > > > Section 5.4: "The ifIndex [RFC2863] is used as a common handler" > > > > I don't think it's a "handler". The ifIndex is actually an > index. > > > > > > > > [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415. That's > > > > not a good idea for an Informational document. It is ok to > > > > say that if the additional requirements are not followed, this > > > > MIB will not be useful or usable. > > > > > > > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a > > > > MIB draft? MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the > > > > protocol that they provide management for. This section, and > > > > the changes in Section 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft > > > > that could be standards track. > > > > > > > > Appendix A (change history) should include a request to the > > > > RFC Editor to remove it before publication of the RFC. > > > > > > > > idnits 2.11.15 found a couple of nits: > > > > > > > > =3D=3D The document seems to lack a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378 > > > > work, but was > > > > first submitted before 10 November 2008. Should you add > > > > the disclaimer? > > > > (See the Legal Provisions document at > > > > http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info for more > information.). > > > > > > > > =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-05) exists of > > > > draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04 > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > --David > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > David L. Black, Distinguished Engineer > > > > EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA 01748 > > > > +1 (508) 293-7953 FAX: +1 (508) 293-7786 > > > > black_david@emc.com Mobile: +1 (978) 394-7754 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > > > --0016e68ee947ae9243047b499da4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI,

If you would like me to take a look at any specific issues, plea= se list them and the deadline for a response.

Also, I'd prefer t= hat this gmail email address was not made public. I know that all email sen= t to dperkins@snmpinfo will currently bounce, since that the input queue is= full of junk email, which I haven't yet had the time to remove and swi= tch to another system that does reasonable spam filtering. However, that is= the email address that should be used. By the way, I have had the same pho= ne number 408-394-8702 for many years, and don't plan on changing it. Y= ou can reach me there. Finally, I'm trying to arrange to attend the spr= ing IETF meeting to throw a 20th birthday and a SMIC is free party. If so, = then you can see that I'm still around.
 
PS Look who is one of the coaches of the San Carlos city champion= AA  Little League team in 2009.
http://www.sancarlosll.org/
My guy in 3rd from the right in th= e front row.

Regards,
/david t. perkins


200= 9/12/1 David Harrington <ietfdbh@comcast.net>
Hi,

David Perkin's email should also be updated in the MIB drafts.
Try dperkins3600@gmail.com
You should ask if he needs his address and affiliation updated as
well.

your friendly email hunter-downer,
dbh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Harrington [mailto:= ietfdbh@comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:34 AM
> To: 'young'; Black_Davi= d@emc.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.c= om;
> yzhang@fortinet.com; gen-art@ietf.org; mrw@lilacglade.org;
> dromasca@avaya.com
> Cc: capwap@frascone.com
> Subject: Re: [Capwap] My (Richard) comments to the Gen-ART
> review ofdraft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06
>
> Try chelliot@gmail.com
>
> dbh
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.co= m]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:42 PM
> > To: Black_David@emc.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com;
> > yzhang@fortinet.com; <= a href=3D"mailto:gen-art@ietf.org">gen-art@ietf.org; mrw@lilacglade.org;
> > dromasca@avaya.com
> > Cc: capwap@frascone.com
> > Subject: [Capwap] My (Richard) comments to the Gen-ART review
> > of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06
> >
> > Hi, All :
> >
> > Please check my comments identified by the [Richard].
> > To David: Thanks a lot.
> >
> > > The important open issues that need to be resolved are tagge= d
with
>
> > > [*].
> > >
> > > [*] Intended document status is now Informational.  Tha= t
> > needs to be
> > > changed on the title page, but more importantly, someone (dr= aft
> > > shepherd?) should double-check whether the requested IANA > > allocations
> > > are appropriate for an Informational document. If there'= s a
> problem
> > > here, the IESG should be warned that a process exception may= be
> > > needed, as I think the allocations are necessary for this dr= aft.
> >
> > [Richard] Margaret or Dan, please confirm it.
> > >
> > > [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to th= e
MIB
> > > definitions, most of which are not called out in this review= . I
> > > strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of English
> > > prior to IESG Review.  Here's an example from Secti= on
> >
> > [Richard] Margaret or Dan, please consider how to handle it.
> > For the text, I can't do better job than a native speaker of<= br> > English:(
> >
> > > 5.6 - the use of the word "conception" is incorrec= t in this
> phrase:
> > >        the protocol of [RFC5416] defines= WLAN conception
> > > A better word would be "creation".
> >
> > [Richard] Hi, David.  Whether "management" instead= of "creation"
is
> > better?
> >
> > > Terminology section:
> > > - Add a definition of PHY, it's undefined in this docume= nt.
> >
> > [Richard]  It is a very general conception.
> > I checked the RFC5415, it does not give the definition of PHY. > > How about: physical layer (PHY) in the place where it first
appears?
> > I am ok with adding a definition of PHY if it is a better
solution.
> >
> > > - Add a definition of WLAN, while it's defined elsewhere= , WLAN
> > >        is a crucial concept for this dra= ft and hence needs a
> > >        definition here.
> > [Richard] I am ok.
> >
> > > - The definition of station (STA) is sufficiently general to=
> > >        include WTPs.  Was that inte= nded?
> >
> > [Richard] I got the definition=A1=A1of station (STA) and WTP from=
> RFC5415.
> >
> > > Section 5.1 should explain the division of management of a > > WTP between
> > > the actual CAPWAP protocol and this MIB.  The first bul= let
creates
>
> > > this confusion, and that bullet is not consistent with the f= irst

> > > bullet in 5.4.  That lack of consistency  should b= e corrected in

> > > addition to providing the explanation.
> > [Richard]  I did not get the point. Kindly give more input > >
> > > Section 5.4: "The ifIndex [RFC2863] is used as a common= handler"
I
>
> > > don't think it's a "handler".  The if= Index is actually an index.
> > [Richard]  How about use "index" instead of "= handler".
> >
> > > [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415.
> > That's not a
> > > good idea for an Informational document.  It is ok to s= ay
> > that if the
> > > additional requirements are not followed, this MIB will not<= br> > > be useful
> > > or usable.
> > [Richard]
> > The WG already made the consensus on it after IETF 75th,
> > and the WG agree to use the following text.
> > The section 4.6.40 [RFC5415] does not clarify that the WTP's = Base
> MAC
> >  address MUST be included in the WTP Board Data message elem= ent.
> This
> >  is a known errata item and assumed to be fixed in future by=
> > the editors of
> > the RFC5415.
> >
> > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a= MIB

> > > draft?  MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the=
> > protocol that
> > > they provide management for.  This section, and the cha= nges
> > in Section
> > > 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft that could be standards<= br> track.
> >
> > [Richard]  Margaret or Dan, please confirm whether it is
> > allowed to have
> > the Message Element Extension in the MIB drafts.
> > The "manageable" in the current text "To enable CA= PWAP
> > protocol timers and
> > variables [RFC5415] manageable  through CAPWAP protocol"= ; is
> > not very clear.
> > Maybe the word "viewable " is better.
> > How  about we use the text  "To enable CAPWAP prot= ocol timers
> > and variables
> > [RFC5415] viewable on the AC through CAPWAP protocol" ?
> >
> > Since the MIB objects (such as "capwapBaseAcMaxRetransmit&qu= ot; )
> > corresponding
> > to the CAPWAP protocol timers and variables are optional,
> > whether it is
> > required to add some text
> > in the Section 9 to clarify that the CAPWAP Message Element
> > Extension is
> > optional?
> >
> > > Appendix A (change history) should include a request to the<= br> > > RFC Editor
> > > to remove it before publication of the RFC.
> > [Richard] It is ok.
> >
> > > idnits 2.11.15 found a couple of nits:
> > >
> > >  =3D=3D The document seems to lack a disclaimer for pre= -RFC5378
> > work, but
> > > was
> > >     first submitted before 10 November 2008.  = ;Should you add the

> > > disclaimer?
> > >     (See the Legal Provisions document at
> > >     http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info for more info= rmation.).
> >
> > [Richard] It is ok.
> >
> > >  =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-05) exist= s of
> > >     draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04
> >
> > [Richard] It is ok.
> >
> > The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
> >
> >       chelli= ot@cisco.com on 11/25/2009 7:43 PM
> >             The e-mail system was u= nable to deliver the
> > message, but did not
> > report a specific reason.  Check the address and try again.<= br> > > If it still
> > fails, contact your system administrator.
> >             < sj-inbound-d.cisco.com #5.0.0= smtp; 5.1.0 -
> > Unknown address
> > error 550-'5.1.1 <ch= elliot@cisco.com>... User unknown' (delivery
> > attempts: 0)>
> >
> > [Richard] I am not able get the Chris' other email address. > > Do the chairs or
> >
> > the mailing list know his other email address except the
> > chelliot@cisco.com?
> >
> > Regards
> > Richard
> >
> > -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE-----
> > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Black_= David@emc.com [mailto:Black_Davi= d@emc.com]
> > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA11=D4=C226=C8=D5 8:48
> > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: young@h3c.co= m; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; = yzhang@fortinet.com;
> > gen-art@ietf.org
> > =B3=AD=CB=CD: mmani@avaya.com<= /a>; dorothy.gellert@gmail.com= ;
> mrw@lilacglade.org;
> > dromasca@avaya.com; capwap@frascone.com; Black_David@emc.com
> > =D6=F7=CC=E2: RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06=
> >
> > Another open issue is that the email address for Chris Elliott > > in this draft is wrong and needs to be corrected ...
> >
> > The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
> >
> >       chelli= ot@cisco.com on 11/25/2009 7:43 PM
> >             The e-mail system was u= nable to deliver the
> > message, but did
> > not report a specific reason.  Check the address and try aga= in.
If
> it
> > still fails, contact your system administrator.
> >             < sj-inbound-d.cisco.com #5.0.0= smtp; 5.1.0 - Unknown
> > address error 550-'5.1.1 <chelliot@cisco.com>... User
> > unknown' (delivery
> > attempts: 0)>
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --David
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Black, David
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:43 PM
> > > To: young@h3c.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; chelliot@cisco.com;
> > > yzhang@fortinet.com; gen-art@ietf.org
> > > Cc: Black, David; mmani@a= vaya.com; dorothy.gellert@= gmail.com;
> > > mrw@lilacglade.org= ; Dan (Dan) Romascanu; capwap@frasco= ne.com
> > > Subject: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06
> > >
> > > I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-AR= T)
> > > reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please s= ee
> > > http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.= html).
> > >
> > > Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call=
> > > comments you may receive.
> > >
> > > Document: draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06
> > > Reviewer: David L. Black
> > > Review Date: November 25, 2009
> > > IETF LC End Date: December 7, 2009
> > >
> > > Summary:
> > > This draft is on the right track, but has open issues, descr= ibed
> > > in the review.
> > >
> > > Comments:
> > > This draft defines a MIB for the CAPWAP protocol.  It a= lso
extends
> > > that protocol, which is a peculiar thing to do in a MIB
document.
> > > I've left review of the actual MIB definitions to the ex= pertise
> > > of the MIB Doctors.
> > >
> > > The important open issues that need to be resolved are tagge= d
> > > with [*].
> > >
> > > [*] Intended document status is now Informational.  Tha= t needs
to
> > > be changed on the title page, but more importantly, someone<= br> > > > (draft shepherd?) should double-check whether the requested<= br> > > > IANA allocations are appropriate for an Informational docume= nt.
> > > If there's a problem here, the IESG should be warned tha= t a
> > > process exception may be needed, as I think the allocations = are
> > > necessary for this draft.
> > >
> > > [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to th= e
> > > MIB definitions, most of which are not called out in this review.
> > > I strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of<= br> > > > English prior to IESG Review.  Here's an example fr= om Section
> > > 5.6 - the use of the word "conception" is incorrec= t in this
> phrase:
> > >   the protocol of [RFC5416] defines WLAN conception
> > > A better word would be "creation".
> > >
> > > Terminology section:
> > > - Add a definition of PHY, it's undefined in this docume= nt.
> > > - Add a definition of WLAN, while it's defined elsewhere= , WLAN
> > >   is a crucial concept for this draft and hence needs a=
> > >   definition here.
> > > - The definition of station (STA) is sufficiently general to=
> > >   include WTPs.  Was that intended?
> > >
> > > Section 5.1 should explain the division of management of a > > > WTP between the actual CAPWAP protocol and this MIB.  T= he
> > > first bullet creates this confusion, and that bullet is not<= br> > > > consistent with the first bullet in 5.4.  That lack of<= br> > > > consistency  should be corrected in addition to providi= ng
> > > the explanation.
> > >
> > > Section 5.4: "The ifIndex [RFC2863] is used as a common= handler"
> > > I don't think it's a "handler".  The = ifIndex is actually an
index.
> > >
> > > [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415. &nb= sp;That's
> > > not a good idea for an Informational document.  It is o= k to
> > > say that if the additional requirements are not followed, th= is
> > > MIB will not be useful or usable.
> > >
> > > [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a=
> > > MIB draft?  MIB drafts generally do not make changes to= the
> > > protocol that they provide management for.  This sectio= n, and
> > > the changes in Section 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft > > > that could be standards track.
> > >
> > > Appendix A (change history) should include a request to the<= br> > > > RFC Editor to remove it before publication of the RFC.
> > >
> > > idnits 2.11.15 found a couple of nits:
> > >
> > >   =3D=3D The document seems to lack a disclaimer for pr= e-RFC5378
> > > work, but was
> > >      first submitted before 10 November 2008.=  Should you add
> > > the disclaimer?
> > >      (See the Legal Provisions document at > > >      http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info for mor= e
information.).
> > >
> > >   =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-05) exis= ts of
> > >      draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > --David
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > David L. Black, Distinguished Engineer
> > > EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA  01748 > > > +1 (508) 293-7953             = FAX: +1 (508) 293-7786
> > > black_david@emc.com        Mobile: +1 (978) 394-7754
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
> >
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