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Last January, there was a document update following the interim capwap meeting (from version 03 to 04). I was very sick for several weeks around that time, and I missed the update. There were dramatic changes to the state machine introduced in that update (including addition of discovery state in the AC, and use of that state to plumb DTLS listen commands). Also, the client cookie (HelloVerifyRequest), while still showing up in ladder diagrams, was no longer accommodated in the text or the state machine. At the Vancouver meeting we agreed that discovery state should not be maintained, and Pat and Charles proposed some state machine changes intended to better illustrate the differences between the AC and WTP. However, the last proposal I saw did not fully address the problems/inconsistencies resulting from the AC discovery state dependencies introduced in 04. Here's an example, from the working text for 09: Idle to DTLS Setup (c): This transition occurs to establish a secure DTLS session with the peer. WTP: The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the DTLSStart command, which starts the DTLS session establishment with the chosen AC. When the discovery phase is bypassed, it is assumed the WTP has locally configured ACs. AC: The AC initiates this transition by invoking the DTLSListen command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which informs the DTLS stack that it is willing to listen for an incoming session. The AC's Listener thread forks an instance of the Service thread, along with a copy of the state context. If the AC had maintained WTP state information during the Discovery exchange, or through some other means that may include static configuration of WTPs, the AC MAY provide optional qualifiers in the DTLSListen command to only accept session requests a specific WTP. Note that the AC SHOULD NOT maintain state information based on an unsecured Discovery Request message, as this can lead to a Denial of Service attack (see Section 12). In such instances, the AC MUST ensure that this state information is freed after a period, which is implementation specific. This text seems to have originally assumed that the AC would listen *per-WTP* based on receipt of a discovery request from that WTP, but this is inconsistent in multiple ways. Most importantly, discovery is optional, so the AC must *always* be listening for incoming (DTLS) ClientHello messages. A simple way to represent this is to say that the AC is listening while in the Idle state, and receipt of an acceptable ClientHello (e.g. with a valid cookie) causes it to transition from Idle to DTLS Setup. You could also say the AC is always in DTLS Setup state, but that complicates things in terms of representing discovery message processing. I think using idle for this works best. Before we go any further with this, we need to agree on whether use of client cookies is required or optional. The protocol is simpler if they are always required, but there are probably deployment scenarios in which the potential for AC DoS attacks is minimal, so one might argue that they shouldn't be strictly required for those scenarios. In the interest of implementation simplicity, I would vote to simply make them mandatory, but I will assume they are optional below with the understanding that the proposed language will be simpler if they become mandatory. Another related decision might be a little more rat-hole prone (or not): what are the state transitions required to implement the HelloVerifyRequest? The simplest is to add a C next to the Idle state (an Idle to Idle transition), with something resembling the following text: Idle to Idle (b): This transition may occur on the AC when it receives a ClientHello WTP: This is an invalid state transition for the WTP. AC: When the WTP sends a ClientHello, the AC optionally sends a HelloVerifyRequest containing a unique cookie that the WTP must return in a subsequent HelloRequest. This transition also occurs if a ClientHello contains an invalid cookie. Note that 3 things can happen when the AC receives a ClientHello; the AC 1) drops the message, because it contains an invalid cookie, or because the AC is rate limiting handshakes 2) it creates a cookie and sends a HelloVerifyRequest 3) it deems the incoming HelloRequest acceptable (either because it contains a valid cookie or because client cookies are not required), and it transitions from Idle to DTLS Setup Rather than idle to idle, we could add another AC-only state that it transitions into to gen/send the cookie, and then back to Idle, but I think Idle-Idle works okay and is simpler. Other text that needs updating is the Idle to DTLS Setup transition: Idle to DTLS Setup (c): This transition occurs to establish a secure DTLS session with the peer. WTP: The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the DTLSStart command, which starts the DTLS session establishment with the chosen AC. When the discovery phase is bypassed, it is assumed the WTP has an alternative means for choosing an AC (e.g. DNS, DHCP option, or static configuration). 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I think it should consider more about Entity MIB (rfc 27370) reuse. According to CAPWAP protocol, capwapWTPTable has MIB objects such as capwapWTPManufacturerId, capwapWTPModelId and so on. These objects are well defined by entity MIB. Re-defining them is not a valid design. So it requires a way to reuse entity MIB. The basic idea could be: At AC side, entPhysicalTable could keep info for both AC and WTP. Each WTP could be identified by PhysicalIndex, and set entPhysicalClass as other(1). In entity MIB, manufacture, software version, hardware version are available for each WTP. Current capwapWTPTable table could remove objects such as capwapWTPManufacturerId, while keep a PhysicalIndex for a specific WTP. By this way, entity MIB could be reused. Regards Richard ------=_Part_10715_17933333.1199718506343 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hi, current CAPWAP MIB design is reusing IF-MIB, 802.11 SDO's MIB.
I think it should consider more about Entity MIB (rfc 27370) reuse.

According to CAPWAP protocol, capwapWTPTable has MIB objects
such as capwapWTPManufacturerId, capwapWTPModelId and so on.
These objects are well defined by entity MIB. Re-defining them is not a
 valid design. So it requires a way to reuse entity MIB.
The basic idea could be:
At AC side, entPhysicalTable could keep info for both AC and WTP.
Each WTP could be identified by PhysicalIndex, and set
entPhysicalClass as other(1). In entity MIB, manufacture, software
version, hardware version are available for each WTP.
Current capwapWTPTable table could remove objects such
as capwapWTPManufacturerId, while keep a PhysicalIndex
for a specific WTP.
By this way, entity MIB could be reused.

Regards

Richard

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At present, CAPWAP MIB  uses a node under mib-2 as root. The better way
is to apply a group under mib-2, and use it as root for capwap protocol
and its wireless binding.
 
Regards
 
Richard
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Please use it as reference.=20 =20 Dan =20 =20 =20 =20 ________________________________ From: Yang Richard [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:08 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: chelliot@cisco.com Subject: [Capwap] CAPWAP MIB should consider more about reuse =09 =09 Hi, current CAPWAP MIB design is reusing IF-MIB, 802.11 SDO's MIB. I think it should consider more about Entity MIB (rfc 27370) reuse. According to CAPWAP protocol, capwapWTPTable has MIB objects such as capwapWTPManufacturerId, capwapWTPModelId and so on. These objects are well defined by entity MIB. Re-defining them is not a valid design. So it requires a way to reuse entity MIB.=20 The basic idea could be: At AC side, entPhysicalTable could keep info for both AC and WTP. Each WTP could be identified by PhysicalIndex, and set entPhysicalClass as other(1). In entity MIB, manufacture, software=20 version, hardware version are available for each WTP. Current capwapWTPTable table could remove objects such as capwapWTPManufacturerId, while keep a PhysicalIndex for a specific WTP.=20 By this way, entity MIB could be reused.=20 Regards Richard ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8513F.89ADA5C6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The latest version of the Entity MIB is RFC 4133. = Please use=20 it as reference.
 
Dan
 
 
 
 

From: Yang Richard = [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:08 PM
To:=20 capwap@frascone.com
Cc: = chelliot@cisco.com
Subject:=20 [Capwap] CAPWAP MIB should consider more about = reuse

Hi, current CAPWAP MIB design is reusing IF-MIB, 802.11 SDO's = MIB.
I=20 think it should consider more about Entity MIB (rfc 27370) = reuse.

According to CAPWAP protocol, capwapWTPTable has MIB = objects
such as=20 capwapWTPManufacturerId, capwapWTPModelId and so on.
These objects = are well=20 defined by entity MIB. Re-defining them is not a
 valid = design. So it=20 requires a way to reuse entity MIB.
The basic idea could be:
At = AC=20 side, entPhysicalTable could keep info for both AC and WTP.
Each = WTP could=20 be identified by PhysicalIndex, and set
entPhysicalClass as = other(1). In=20 entity MIB, manufacture, software
version, hardware version are = available=20 for each WTP.
Current capwapWTPTable table could remove objects = such
as=20 capwapWTPManufacturerId, while keep a PhysicalIndex
for a specific = WTP.=20
By this way, entity MIB could be reused.

Regards

Richard

------_=_NextPart_001_01C8513F.89ADA5C6-- --===============0632073111== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap --===============0632073111==-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Jan 07 11:05:10 2008 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBuTO-0000nF-1L for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:05:10 -0500 Received: from mx1.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.31]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBuTL-0000BX-AD for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:05:10 -0500 Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2A6322B023 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A904A4033 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561E4322A9A3 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hgblob.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692F6322A82F for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:04:40 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aELe1Y00P0Fqzac0509w00; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:04:39 +0000 Received: from Harrington73653 ([24.128.66.199]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aG4V1Y0094HwxpC3U00000; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:04:33 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=w_5SlKS2wf0A:10 a=U1BsUXVOXi9GHLTf1nYA:9 a=dCc5jqLBoRhj4XJ25kzBO8ZTTM8A:4 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=PtetwI6Pm4AA:10 a=JfD0Fch1gWkA:10 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 a=2zRHyHReCKVOeD8PZ38A:9 a=jB7NwTzlp3JgfsqIWTIA:7 a=EZp3HVUTdia-L0WA4PyaEZVfozMA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 From: "David Harrington" To: "'Yang Richard'" , References: <8556013e0801070712k4837f2bat75a6b83eaf23b5e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:03:54 -0500 Message-ID: <11c601c85146$e7581850$6502a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <8556013e0801070712k4837f2bat75a6b83eaf23b5e5@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AchRP8DUUuo7+atMSaKctHztcO0KMgABoOxg X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hgblob X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_POST, HTML_MESSAGE, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: * Cc: chelliot@cisco.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] The root for CAPWAP MIB X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2071231315==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2857c5c041d6c02d7181d602c22822c8 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2071231315== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_11C7_01C8511C.FE821050" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_11C7_01C8511C.FE821050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Please check the best current practices recommended in RFC4181 section 4.5. David Harrington dbharrington@comcast.net ietfdbh@comcast.net _____ From: Yang Richard [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:12 AM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: chelliot@cisco.com Subject: [Capwap] The root for CAPWAP MIB At present, CAPWAP MIB uses a node under mib-2 as root. The better way is to apply a group under mib-2, and use it as root for capwap protocol and its wireless binding. Regards Richard ------=_NextPart_000_11C7_01C8511C.FE821050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
Please check the best current practices = recommended in=20 RFC4181 section 4.5.
 

David=20 Harrington
dbharrington@comcast.net
ietfdbh@comcast.net
<= /P>


From: Yang Richard = [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:12 AM
To:=20 capwap@frascone.com
Cc: = chelliot@cisco.com
Subject:=20 [Capwap] The root for CAPWAP MIB

At present, CAPWAP MIB  uses a node under mib-2 as = root.=20 The better way
is to apply a group under mib-2, and use it as = root for=20 capwap protocol
and its wireless binding.
 
Regards
 
Richard
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C856CB.0079EF00-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Jan 14 13:05:38 2008 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JETgo-00065H-Dq for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:05:38 -0500 Received: from mx2.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.32]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JETgm-00011f-RX for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:05:38 -0500 Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C941C408A2 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26404A4034 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:05:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B868D433BB5 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:05:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269B143364E for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:05:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low); Whitelisted (Reverse DNS hostname hs-out-0708.google.com whitelisted) Received: from hs-out-2122.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.251]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:05:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id z77so3083487hsz.14 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.199.1 with SMTP id w1mr2308947waf.109.1200333920696; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.211.18 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:05:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:05:20 +0100 From: mauro.bis@gmail.com To: Capwap@frascone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hermes X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Capwap] nat, dtls and bind X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Hello, I have a few questions about the 8th version of the CAPWAP draft. 1. Chapter 11 describes three possible scenarios involving NAT. My question is about the second scenario, where more than one WTPs is deployed behind the same NAT system. The text says that thanks to the "Session ID" message element of the Data Channel Keep Alive Packet the AC can distinguish the control and data flows of NATted WTPs, but how can the WTPs receive possible responses to their requests since the AC will address any response to the same IP address (the NAT box IP)? Do they need to employ UDP "hole punching" techniques? 2. In chapter 2.4 there is the statement "...there are DTLS library implementations currently available..." but I can only find the OpenSSL one. May someone please point me to other (possibly free) implementations? 3. Section 4.4.1 says that the Data Channel Keep Alive packet is used to bind the control channel with the data channel. However it is not clear to me the way in which the Keep Alive packets, sent on the data channel, relate to the control channel. What is the meaning of the term *bind* in this context? Thanks in advance, Mauro _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Jan 14 14:13:30 2008 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JEUkU-0001fv-9z for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:13:30 -0500 Received: from mx2.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.32]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JEUkS-0002nx-IH for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:13:30 -0500 Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D906E1C407CA for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:13:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0564A4034 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3FC4333F4 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496FE4333F3 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:13:18 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:13:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [209.86.224.35] (helo=elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JEUkH-0004dD-De; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:13:17 -0500 Received: from 216.31.249.246 by webmail.pas.earthlink.net with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:13:17 -0500 Message-ID: <28405192.1200337997367.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:13:17 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: "Scott G. Kelly" To: mauro.bis@gmail.com, Capwap@frascone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 5b98cdd91c374dcd776432462e451d7b7f19f0d9c038d9aafe6e221b6ad5d9edad43885db1bd61e6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.35 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hermes X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [Capwap] nat, dtls and bind X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Scott G. Kelly" List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Hi Mauro, Responses inline... -----Original Message----- >From: mauro.bis@gmail.com >Sent: Jan 14, 2008 10:05 AM >To: Capwap@frascone.com >Subject: [Capwap] nat, dtls and bind > >Hello, I have a few questions about the 8th version of the CAPWAP draft. > >1. Chapter 11 describes three possible scenarios involving NAT. > My question is about the second scenario, where more than one WTPs is > deployed behind the same NAT system. The text says that thanks to the > "Session ID" message element of the Data Channel Keep Alive Packet the > AC can distinguish the control and data flows of NATted WTPs, but how > can the WTPs receive possible responses to their requests since the > AC will address any response to the same IP address (the NAT box IP)? > Do they need to employ UDP "hole punching" techniques? The WTP source ports will be mapped to unique ports on the NAT box, so that the return packets, while having the same destination IP, will have different destination ports. >2. In chapter 2.4 there is the statement "...there are DTLS library > implementations currently available..." but I can only find the > OpenSSL one. May someone please point me to other (possibly free) > implementations? There has been some discussion about adding it to gnutls, but I'm not sure if this is underway or not. >3. Section 4.4.1 says that the Data Channel Keep Alive packet is used > to bind the control channel with the data channel. > However it is not clear to me the way in which the Keep Alive packets, > sent on the data channel, relate to the control channel. > What is the meaning of the term *bind* in this context? 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X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f607d15ccc2bc4eaf3ade8ffa8af02a0 Lars Eggert skrev: > Hi, > > sorry for the delay in responding - vacation time. > > On 2007-12-7, at 23:37, ext Puneet Agarwal wrote: >> CAPWAP has the same ipv6 udp checksum problem as MBONED. > > Right. > >> You have >> proposed a separate draft to modify rfc2460 so that one could set the >> UDP checksum to 0 for IPv6 (ref >> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mboned/current/msg00401.html ). > > I think "proposed" is too strong. Magnus has said "it will be acceptable > to update RFC 2460 (...) under the following restrictions", which is > different. > >> a) When do you expect rfc2460-modify draft to get published? > > First, someone will need to spearhead this effort, and establish strong > community consensus that RFC2460 should be updated in this way. Then we > can talk about publishing such a draft. > >> b) Would you recommend that CAPWAP also follow this new rfc2460-modify >> draft? > > Depends on how quickly you want CAPWAP to progress. Updating 2460 - if > consensus can be established on that, which is by no means certain - > won't be a quick affair. > Hi, Just to verify that I have seen this. I am sorry that I couldn't reply earlier computer breakdown, and vacations leading to backlog. I fully agree with Lars's response and doesn't really have anything to add. I haven't seen any one claiming that they will take the pen on such an update yet. 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Responses below. > This text seems to have originally assumed that the AC would listen > *per-WTP* based on receipt of a discovery request from that WTP, but this is inconsistent in multiple ways. Most > importantly, discovery is optional, so the AC must *always* be listening for incoming (DTLS) ClientHello messages. A > simple way to represent this is to say that the AC is listening while in the Idle state, and receipt of an acceptable > ClientHello (e.g. with a valid cookie) causes it to transition from Idle to DTLS Setup. You could also say the AC is > always in DTLS Setup state, but that complicates things in terms of representing discovery message processing. I think > using idle for this works best. Actually, the state machine does not require this, but allows for it. If an AC wants to only accept connections from specific IP addresses, whether the list was generated from discovery, or through a pre-configured list, this is possible. It is not recommended, are the text states. > Before we go any further with this, we need to agree on whether use of client cookies is required or optional. The > protocol is simpler if they are always required, but there are probably deployment scenarios in which the potential > for AC DoS attacks is minimal, so one might argue that they shouldn't be strictly required for those scenarios. In the > interest of implementation simplicity, I would vote to simply make them mandatory, but I will assume they are optional > below with the understanding that the proposed language will be simpler if they become mandatory. At first glance, I don't think I have issues with your proposal, but do not fully understand the possible impact of the changes. > Another related decision might be a little more rat-hole prone (or not): > what are the state transitions required to implement the HelloVerifyRequest? The simplest is to add a C next to the > Idle state (an Idle to Idle transition), with something resembling the following > text: > Idle to Idle (b): This transition may occur on the AC when it receives > a ClientHello > WTP: This is an invalid state transition for the WTP. > AC: When the WTP sends a ClientHello, the AC optionally sends > a HelloVerifyRequest containing a unique cookie that the WTP > must return in a subsequent HelloRequest. This transition also > occurs if a ClientHello contains an invalid cookie. > > Note that 3 things can happen when the AC receives a ClientHello; the AC > > 1) drops the message, because it contains an invalid cookie, or because > the AC is rate limiting handshakes > > 2) it creates a cookie and sends a HelloVerifyRequest > > 3) it deems the incoming HelloRequest acceptable (either because it > contains a valid cookie or because client cookies are not required), > and it transitions from Idle to DTLS Setup > > Rather than idle to idle, we could add another AC-only state that it transitions into to gen/send the cookie, and then > back to Idle, but I think Idle-Idle works okay and is simpler. It seems to me like we really aren't changing anything because ultimately, the state machine still has a state transition prior to the setup of DTLS, so the same confusion about whether the AC maintains state prior to DTLS setup still exists. I continue to believe that the current draft does not make this necessary since the "listener thread" operates on a separate context that is global - not per WTP. So it seems to me like the current draft already defines the API between DTLS and CAPWAP, and therefore addresses the other requirement we once had about not wanting CAPWAP to have to parse and understand the DTLS state machine. I continue to believe this should be a design goal. In your proposed model, CAPWAP needs to validate whether the cookie is valid (or at least since the state machine description includes this, then I presume it does). I would prefer let the DTLS engine do this and simply report back on what's working/not working. 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