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--------------050304060205090907050307-- From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Mon Oct 03 16:52:09 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EMXI7-0001Tw-G7 for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:52:09 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA14018 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j93KO9Cg067126; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:24:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j93KO9ln067125; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:24:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.207]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with SMTP id j93KO9Aa067117 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:24:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org) Received: (qmail 70546 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2005 20:24:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.102?) (dave.thewlis@sbcglobal.net@69.107.105.246 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2005 20:24:03 -0000 Message-ID: <4341935F.1010701@calconnect.org> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 13:23:59 -0700 From: Dave Thewlis Reply-To: Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org Organization: The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-calendar list Subject: Error in link to Timezone Questionnaire Results Document Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040906080104000106090308" Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040906080104000106090308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id QAA14018 I made an error in transcribing the URL to the Timezone Questionnaire=20 Results document in my previous posting. The correct link is: http://www.calconnect.org/publications/resultsfromtimezonequestionnairev1= .0.pdf. You may also retrief the document by going to http://www.calconnect.org=20 and selecting "Work Products" from the sidebar. Apologies, Dave Thewlis --=20 *Dave Thewlis, Executive Director Calconnect - The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium* +1 707 840 9391 (voice) =B7 +1 707 498 2238 (mobile) http://www.calconnect.org =B7 Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org=20 --------------040906080104000106090308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I made an error in transcribing the URL to the Timezone Questionnaire Results document in my previous posting.  The correct link is:

http://www.calconnect.org/publications/resultsfromtimezonequestionnairev1.0.pdf.

You may also retrief the document by going to http://www.calconnect.org and selecting "Work Products" from the sidebar.

Apologies,

Dave Thewlis
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(dave.thewlis@sbcglobal.net@69.107.105.246 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2005 20:24:03 -0000 Message-ID: <4341935F.1010701@calconnect.org> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 13:23:59 -0700 From: Dave Thewlis Reply-To: Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org Organization: The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-calendar list Subject: Error in link to Timezone Questionnaire Results Document Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040906080104000106090308" List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 10.253.24.21 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 10.3.253.10 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 10.3.252.10 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2005 20:42:56.0898 (UTC) FILETIME=[09074E20:01C5C85B] Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040906080104000106090308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id WAA06548 I made an error in transcribing the URL to the Timezone Questionnaire=20 Results document in my previous posting. The correct link is: http://www.calconnect.org/publications/resultsfromtimezonequestionnairev1= .0.pdf. You may also retrief the document by going to http://www.calconnect.org=20 and selecting "Work Products" from the sidebar. Apologies, Dave Thewlis --=20 *Dave Thewlis, Executive Director Calconnect - The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium* +1 707 840 9391 (voice) =B7 +1 707 498 2238 (mobile) http://www.calconnect.org =B7 Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org=20 --------------040906080104000106090308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I made an error in transcribing the URL to the Timezone Questionnaire Results document in my previous posting.  The correct link is:

http://www.calconnect.org/publications/resultsfromtimezonequestionnairev1.0.pdf.

You may also retrief the document by going to http://www.calconnect.org and selecting "Work Products" from the sidebar.

Apologies,

Dave Thewlis
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References: <434FFFF4.8060807@Royer.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050208030506030704060509" X-IP-stats: Incoming Outgoing Last 1, First 65, in=113, out=114, spam=0 Known=true X-External-IP: 69.92.70.67 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050208030506030704060509 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090905010801030105080807" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090905010801030105080807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michiel van Leeuwen wrote: > Doug Royer wrote: > >> Is it time to move xCal from draft to RFC status? > > > Why would you want to do that? What is the advantage of adding a new > standard? 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range of credit cards. dgjkjutyr UlNfR1ZZH1JGVllbRVF1WFdHUhteQFQ= ------------38C6A8ED493E66B-- From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Sat Oct 22 16:23:36 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ETPtw-0004Tv-45 for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:23:36 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA27729 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9MKFqkH032937; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:15:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9MKFqLf032936; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:15:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from S2.cableone.net (s2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9MKFpk9032866 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@Royer.com) Received: from [192.168.168.10] (unverified [69.92.70.67]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 33862786 for multiple; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:19:13 -0700 Message-ID: <435A9DEB.3010604@Royer.com> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:15:39 -0600 From: Doug Royer Reply-To: xcal@inet-consulting.com Organization: IntelliCal.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040805 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xcal@inet-consulting.com CC: "ietf-calendar@imc.org" , Calsify Subject: Re: [Ietf-calsify] xCal - time to submit? References: <434FFFF4.8060807@Royer.com> <435A96A6.40703@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <435A96A6.40703@nokia.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030705060604070607040006" X-IP-stats: Incoming Outgoing Last 1, First 21, in=32, out=30, spam=0 Known=true X-External-IP: 69.92.70.67 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030705060604070607040006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aki Niemi wrote: > [Speaking as an individual, not chair.] > > Hi, > > A couple of issues occured to me while reading the draft: > > First, the problem this draft is trying to solve seems approximately the > same that MMUSIC aimed at in its SDPng work, in which the idea was to > move from the current SDP into an XML based format. Even the core > difficulty seems to be the same, namely the huge installed base only > supporting the legacy format makes transition a bit hairy. What move? What transition? > Secondly, if we think of xCal as being a next generation iCal format, Clearly you have not read the draft. It says: This memo only provides an alternative, XML representation for the standard syntax defined in [iCAL]. No 'Next generation' at all. If you go to the CALSCH mailing list archives you can see that other non-1:1 mappings of iCal were NOT desired and discouraged by the IESG. > wouldn't it be more beneficial to design it from scratch instead of > simply doing a 1:1 syntactic transform? Fell free to submit such a draft. The xCal draft allow iCal data "as defined in iCal to be mixed with XML data. 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odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ETgVx-0006nf-Ax for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:07:57 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA06299 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9NDvma4032397; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 06:57:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9NDvmtc032396; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 06:57:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from gw2.dave.cridland.net (dsl-217-155-137-62.zen.co.uk [217.155.137.62]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9NDvlgZ032373 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 06:57:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@cridland.net) Received: from peirce.dave.cridland.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:4bd0:2029:0:2e0:81ff:fe29:d16a]) by gw2.dave.cridland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14359154009; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:57:39 +0100 Subject: Re: [Ietf-calsify] xCal - time to submit? References: <434FFFF4.8060807@Royer.com> <435A96A6.40703@nokia.com> <435A9DEB.3010604@Royer.com> <435B81DB.3000804@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <435B81DB.3000804@nokia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <1376.1130075860.939445@peirce.dave.cridland.net> From: Dave Cridland To: Aki Niemi Cc: , "ietf-calendar@imc.org" , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: On Sun Oct 23 13:28:11 2005, Aki Niemi wrote: > ext Doug Royer wrote: >> What move? > > As in stop using the current format and start using the new one. > >> What transition? > > As in how to cope with the co-existance of applications that > support the new format and the old format, and applications that > only support the old format. I think the problem with xCal is not that it's an irrelevant and pointless format, because it isn't - I think it's potentially very useful. But it's nothing to do with this WG, which is why reaction is pretty hostile. Here, the WG is trying to get decent interoperability between calendaring applications. XML doesn't help that in the slightest, and as you point out, if anything, it hurts that. However, many existing systems work "better" with XML, and so I can fully understand that a neat method of producing iCal objects in XML is valuable. No, I don't want to see iMIP capable CUAs start to send out xCal, as that'd be pointless, but yes, a web-based calendaring system might well be capable of spitting out xCal if requested, and some simple front-ends may even require that - and that's fine. So essentially, I think xCal as a concept is fine, just that care should be taken to define its scope a little better. I *haven't* read the draft, incidentally, but I still can tell the scope is obviously not clearly defined, because otherwise the threads going on in this WG about xCal would presumably be very different. If xCal is actually presented as "a better format", then it's over-egging itself (I think a child of four could make a better format than iCal, but the deployed base renders this a waste of time). If xCal presents itself as a format more suited to XML-centric environments, than I'm all for it. Dave. -- You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?" - George Bernard Shaw From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Sun Oct 23 10:44:40 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ETh5U-0002sK-55 for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:44:40 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA08569 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9NEawW1036468; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 07:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9NEawf2036467; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 07:36:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from S1.cableone.net (s1.cableone.net [24.116.0.227]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9NEavnP036448 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 07:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@Royer.com) Received: from [192.168.168.10] (unverified [69.92.70.67]) by S1.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S1) with ESMTP id 34982044 for multiple; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 07:37:05 -0700 Message-ID: <435B9FF9.9020607@Royer.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 08:36:41 -0600 From: Doug Royer Reply-To: xcal@inet-consulting.com Organization: IntelliCal.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040805 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aki Niemi CC: xcal@inet-consulting.com, Calsify , "ietf-calendar@imc.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-calsify] xCal - time to submit? References: <434FFFF4.8060807@Royer.com> <435A96A6.40703@nokia.com> <435A9DEB.3010604@Royer.com> <435B81DB.3000804@nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <435B81DB.3000804@nokia.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030700080105030901050508" X-IP-stats: Incoming Outgoing Last 1, First 74, in=100, out=105, spam=0 Known=true X-External-IP: 69.92.70.67 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030700080105030901050508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aki Niemi wrote: > [Speaking as individual again] > > Inline. > > ext Doug Royer wrote: > >> >> >> Aki Niemi wrote: >> >>> [Speaking as an individual, not chair.] >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> A couple of issues occured to me while reading the draft: >>> >>> First, the problem this draft is trying to solve seems approximately >>> the same that MMUSIC aimed at in its SDPng work, in which the idea >>> was to move from the current SDP into an XML based format. Even the >>> core difficulty seems to be the same, namely the huge installed base >>> only supporting the legacy format makes transition a bit hairy. >> >> >> What move? > > > As in stop using the current format and start using the new one. What new one? xCal is YEARS old. Its clear that you have not really read xCal. 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