From reduction@ofin.com Sat Jan 8 00:26:40 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA27605 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 00:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [61.41.167.199] (helo=MICH.COM) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cn9KH-0006yg-Ej for calsch-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:40:17 -0500 Received: from ofin.com (mx1.firstserver.ne.jp [164.46.1.4]) by MICH.COM with esmtp id 69B306AB49 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:15:19 -0600 Message-ID: <111101c4f549$ef3061fd$9bdf595c@ofin.com> From: "Totality V. Holster" To: Calsch Subject: Hey honey! :) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:15:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_4F03C9F9.842D0E34" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Virus-Scanned: by Ameriserv.net Anti-Virus E-Gateway X-Spam-Score: 8.3 (++++++++) X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Scan-Signature: 057ebe9b96adec30a7efb2aeda4c26a4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_4F03C9F9.842D0E34 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Elloelloello :) http://krauszolts.info/7eb231211ddec62bab930b052/BQMCIA0PSgMUAQY6GAInCwMWCH0BFQA=.htm Death destroys a man, the idea of Death saves him. Hee'm oo http://krauszolts.info/7eb231211ddec62bab930b052/BQMCIA0PSgMUAQY6GAInCwMWCH0BFQA=.html ------=_NextPart_000_0019_4F03C9F9.842D0E34 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm sure it will come off :)





Mugumeho
He has not lived badly whose birth and death has been unnoticed by th= e world=2e
When things are steep, remember to stay level-headed=2e
Character = is much easier kept than recovered=2e

If you've never failed you've never tried=2e

When a father gives to his son, both laugh when a son gives to hi= s father, both cry=2e
There is a ''sanctity'' involved with bringing a= child into this world: it is better than bombing one out of it=2e
Sta= rt early and begin raising the bar throughout the day=2e

Love demands infinitely less than friendship=2e
We all have ability=2e The difference is how we use it=2e Whatever is your best time in the day, give that to communion with God=2e=

So little done, so much to do=2e A long dispute means that both parties are wrong
The devil will let a = preacher prepare a sermon if it will keep him from preparing himself=2e Once your physically capable of winning a gold medal, the rest is ninety = percent mental=2e

When about to commit a base deed, respect thyself, though there i= s no witness=2e
The greatest pride, or the greatest despondency, is the greatest igno= rance of one's self=2e
For all have not the gift of martyrdom=2e Praise those of your critics for whom nothing is up to standard=2e
------=_NextPart_000_0019_4F03C9F9.842D0E34-- From buttresses@careersinconsulting.com Sat Jan 8 00:29:08 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA27793 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 00:29:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from host50.foretec.com ([65.246.255.50] helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Cn9Mv-00076v-PU for calsch-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:42:45 -0500 Received: from acc008ad.ipt.aol.com ([172.192.8.173]) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Cn9JH-0002j2-T1 for calsch-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:38:48 -0500 Received: from careersinconsulting.com (mail.careersinconsulting.com [216.183.160.42]) by ACC008AD.ipt.aol.com with esmtp id E276FBC5F3 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:18:01 -0600 Message-ID: <101001c4f549$6646e13c$25651560@careersinconsulting.com> From: "Overprint A. Showboat" To: Calsch Subject: Do you mind? :))) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:18:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_1603B68C.BED3359F" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) X-Spam-Score: 8.2 (++++++++) X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Scan-Signature: 1a1bf7677bfe77d8af1ebe0e91045c5b This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_1603B68C.BED3359F Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, handsome! http://krauszolts.info/7eb231211ddec62bab930b052/BQMCIA0PSgMUAQY6GAInCwMWCH0BFQA=.htm By the grace of God, I'll be that man. Asta saamal http://krauszolts.info/7eb231211ddec62bab930b052/BQMCIA0PSgMUAQY6GAInCwMWCH0BFQA=.html ------=_NextPart_000_0006_1603B68C.BED3359F Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Buenos tardes!





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Confidence is that feeling by which the mind embarks in great and hon= orable courses with a sure hope and trust in itself=2e
Ninety percent = of my game is mental=2e It's my concentration that has gotten me this far= =2e

Man ceased to be an ape, vanquished the ape, on the day the first= book was written=2e
A lie has no leg, but a scandal has wings=2e
<= BR>And oftentimes excusing of a fault doth make the fault the worse by th= e excuse=2e

I've been through it all, baby=2e I'm Mother Courage=2e
Faith = in the ability of a leader is of slight service unless it be united with = faith in his justice=2e

A highbrow is a person educated beyond his= intelligence=2e

The end of learning is to know God, and out of th= at knowledge to love Him and imitate Him=2e I know I have the ability to do so much more than just stand in front of = the camera the rest of my life=2e
The Republicans have their splits right after election and Democrats = have theirs just before an election=2e
Lying is a terrible vice, it testifies that one despises God, but fea= rs men=2e

If thou suffer injustice, console thyself the true unhappiness is= in doing it=2e
Happiness is a continuation of happenings which are no= t resisted=2e

Though it be in the power of the weakest arm to take away life, i= t is not in the strongest to deprive us of death=2e
The nine-tenths pr= ove man's love, but the one-tenth tests man's legal obedience=2eWhenever = you see a gaming table be sure to know fortune is not there=2e Rather she= is always in the company of industry=2e
Concentrate, play your game, = and don't be afraid to win=2e
------=_NextPart_000_0006_1603B68C.BED3359F-- From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Sat Jan 8 13:06:05 2005 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA21665 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:06:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j08HguZm091659; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 09:42:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j08HguVK091658; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 09:42:56 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from royer.com (inet-consulting.com [4.23.9.166]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j08HgpVB091584 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 09:42:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@Royer.com) Received: from Royer.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by royer.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j08HggeW007851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 09:42:44 -0800 Message-ID: <41E01B91.8050803@Royer.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:42:41 -0700 From: Doug Royer Reply-To: "ietf-calendar@imc.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ietf-calendar@imc.org" Subject: Re iCal-Basic - draft 00 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080102010607040608080206" X-Royer.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact SiteAdmin@Royer.com for more information X-Royer.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080102010607040608080206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know that there was a large debate on having both DURATION and DTEND years ago that resulted in 2445. 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(bikini.cac.washington.edu [128.208.94.28]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j08Jjeuv025634 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:45:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slh@bikini.cac.washington.edu) Received: (from slh@localhost) by bikini.cac.washington.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j08Jmnu11899 for ietf-calendar@imc.org; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:48:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:48:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200501081948.j08Jmnu11899@bikini.cac.washington.edu> To: ietf-calendar@imc.org Subject: Re iCal-Basic - draft 00 From: slh@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: I have thought about it in the past (though not excessively) and was not totally sure they were equivalent. not that that would necesssitate having both and maybe it would even make a stronger case for only having one. |From Doug@royer.com Sat Jan 8 11:41:01 2005 | |I know that there was a large debate on having both DURATION |and DTEND years ago that resulted in 2445. Now that we are trying |to simplify down to the basics. Can we pick just one? | | DTSTART and optionally DURATION (no DTEND in spec) | |or | | DTSTART and optionally DTEND. (no DURATION in spec) | |This is an data format for exchanging calendar information, it has |nothing to do with how any implementation stores the data. Is the |reason that both existed because the WG could not decide? Or |was there another reason? | |-- From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Sat Jan 8 18:42:19 2005 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA07264 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:42:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j08NOhp0088376; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:24:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j08NOhFe088375; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:24:43 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j08NOcb1088359 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:24:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shannon@jigzaw.com) Received: from [68.166.89.13] (helo=rycautwandering) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnPwl-0005Yv-3Q for ietf-calendar@imc.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:24:39 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Shannon Clark" To: Subject: RE: Re iCal-Basic - draft 00 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:24:40 -0600 Organization: JigZaw Inc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <41E01B91.8050803@Royer.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcT1rHDebO6+oz32Rwepz3iZfXshagAKxxBw X-ELNK-Trace: 94d5a3ab06040b079649176a89d694c0f43c108795ac45078b04d7b39e8c0f3ab932d89331f613ee350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.166.89.13 Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well while they seem similar they can, in some cases, encode something different. Specifically - A DTSTART and DTEND without duration can, in the case of certain timezones and daylight savings time changes result in difficult to determine duration. (i.e. a DTSTART of midnight, a DTEND of 3:00am - is that a 3 hour, 2 hour or 4 hour event? Could be any of them depending on the date and timezone. Likewise in the same case a DTSTART and DURATION can result is different endtimes dependant on certain dates. More specifically I think that it was/is an issue of different calendaring programs implementing events in each way - some with start and end times, other with start and duration (I don't know of any that use endtime and duration but technically that could also be used at least in theory). All three at the same time is broken by many time changes for daylight savings. It also comes down to what is considered immoveable about the event. Is it the DURATION? Or the End time. When the events are either repeating or being negotiated the two systems can result in somewhat different behaviors and assumptions. There may also be some usecases where it is important to switch from one mode to another. i.e. "The Meeting HAS TO END BY 5:00pm" - so the DTEND has to be considered fixed, if the start time changes, the meeting is shorter - not lengthened automatically. Alternatively "The test is 4 hours long" - i.e. no matter when the start time is rescheduled for, the end time has to be 4 hours later. I think the key for the standard is that all of these cases can reasonablely be handled, accommodated and dealt with. This may actually also require some concept of "fixed vs. negotiable" but that is an issue for another day. Shannon -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Doug Royer Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:43 AM To: ietf-calendar@imc.org Subject: Re iCal-Basic - draft 00 I know that there was a large debate on having both DURATION and DTEND years ago that resulted in 2445. Now that we are trying to simplify down to the basics. Can we pick just one? DTSTART and optionally DURATION (no DTEND in spec) or DTSTART and optionally DTEND. (no DURATION in spec) This is an data format for exchanging calendar information, it has nothing to do with how any implementation stores the data. Is the reason that both existed because the WG could not decide? Or was there another reason? -- Doug Royer | http://INET-Consulting.com -------------------------------|----------------------------- Doug@Royer.com | Office: (208)612-4638 http://Royer.com | Fax: (866)594-8574 | Cell: (208)520-4044 We Do Standards - You Need Standards From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Sat Jan 8 20:18:13 2005 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA11553 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:18:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0916EpT029339; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:06:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j0916EbG029338; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:06:14 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from royer.com (inet-consulting.com [4.23.9.166]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0916C7M029308 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:06:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@Royer.com) Received: from Royer.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by royer.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j09168eW012920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:06:11 -0800 Message-ID: <41E08380.7010705@Royer.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:06:08 -0700 From: Doug Royer Reply-To: "ietf-calendar@imc.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ietf-calendar@imc.org" Subject: [Fwd: Re: Re iCal-Basic - draft 00] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080405080401080401050309" X-Royer.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact SiteAdmin@Royer.com for more information X-Royer.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080405080401080401050309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree that that is an issue for the Organizer (person). Is it an issue when sharing calendar information? There is nothing an any draft or RFC that specifies one vs the other is "fixed" in any way I can find. I *do* see how the Organizer will care when making the decision. Once the decision is made that the appointment starts at 2 and lasts 4 hours, (or starts at 2 and ends at 6 in some time zone) there is no way looking at an iCalendar object to tell why it starts and 2 and lasts 4 hours. DURATION does not imply the length is more fixed in the mind of the Organizer, and DTEND does not imply the end time is fixed and must end by DTEND by the Organizer. So it is a very nice GUI feature for the CU. However I do not see that it makes a bit of difference to the ATTENDEEs. And I see no text that supports the assumption that one vs the other implies the Organizers reasoning. Some implementations allow the CU to specify DTEND or DURATION, and always send DTEND and when needed converted from DURATION. Some implementations allow the CU to specify DTEND or DURATION, and always send DURATION and when needed converted from DTEND. Some implementation ask only one of DURATION or DTEND and send only that one property. Some implementations always convert DURATION to DTEND and display it as DTEND to the Attendee. Some implementations always convert DTEND to DURATION and display it as DURATION to the Attendee. It looks to me that it is simply two ways to do he same thing. (and more embedded below) Shannon Clark wrote: > Well while they seem similar they can, in some cases, encode something > different. > > Specifically - A DTSTART and DTEND without duration can, in the case of > certain timezones and daylight savings time changes result in difficult > to determine duration. (i.e. a DTSTART of midnight, a DTEND of 3:00am - > is that a 3 hour, 2 hour or 4 hour event? Could be any of them depending > on the date and timezone. Having both only multiplies the possible assumptions by the number of unique implementations on the ATTENDEE list resulting in more incompatibility. DTEND is calculable from DURATION given the TZ info, else the implementations is bused. (as is DURATION from DTEND). *AND* as iCal-Basic does not need or have time zones, this point is moot until a recurrence rule draft is released? > > Likewise in the same case a DTSTART and DURATION can result is different > endtimes dependant on certain dates. Different wall clock times that are 100% calculable each time, else someone is not doing their math correctly. > More specifically I think that it was/is an issue of different > calendaring programs implementing events in each way - some with start > and end times, other with start and duration (I don't know of any that > use endtime and duration but technically that could also be used at > least in theory). MS stores both DURATION and DTSTART for each expanded instance. I am not sure if they always convert to one in the unexpanded copy they keep, or if their unexpanded copy is saved "as is" with respect to DTEND and DURATION. Yes I agree. However the math is REALLY easy. > > All three at the same time is broken by many time changes for daylight > savings. > > It also comes down to what is considered immoveable about the event. Is > it the DURATION? Or the End time. When the events are either repeating > or being negotiated the two systems can result in somewhat different > behaviors and assumptions. There may also be some usecases where it is > important to switch from one mode to another. > > i.e. "The Meeting HAS TO END BY 5:00pm" - so the DTEND has to be > considered fixed, if the start time changes, the meeting is shorter - > not lengthened automatically. > > Alternatively "The test is 4 hours long" - i.e. no matter when the start > time is rescheduled for, the end time has to be 4 hours later. > > I think the key for the standard is that all of these cases can > reasonablely be handled, accommodated and dealt with. This may actually > also require some concept of "fixed vs. negotiable" but that is an issue > for another day. > The Attendees care when they should show up, when they would expect to leave (or for how long). 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X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j092IHfP045215 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:18:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from TimHare@comcast.net) Received: from thare.comcast.net (pcp05187532pcs.micske01.fl.comcast.net[68.46.236.23]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <200501090218180110039gfue>; Sun, 9 Jan 2005 02:18:18 +0000 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.0.20050108210846.02830ac0@mail.comcast.net> X-Sender: TimHare@mail.comcast.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:12:08 -0500 To: "ietf-calendar@imc.org" From: TimHare@comcast.net Subject: Re: Re iCal-Basic - draft 00 In-Reply-To: <41E01B91.8050803@Royer.com> References: <41E01B91.8050803@Royer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: In the most common use cases (which we can assume iCal-Basic is aiming for), an event is either an "appointment", which is a personal event that starts at a certain time and lasts for a period of time; or it's a "meeting" which is a multi-user event that starts at a certain time and lasts for a period of time. I therefore would recommend DTSTART and DURATION in the iCal-Basic spec. Various implementations can, of course, choose to also store the DTEND information, but should use DURATION when exchanging information with other implementations. Tim t 12:42 PM 1/8/05, Doug Royer wrote: >I know that there was a large debate on having both DURATION >and DTEND years ago that resulted in 2445. Now that we are trying >to simplify down to the basics. Can we pick just one? > > DTSTART and optionally DURATION (no DTEND in spec) > >or > > DTSTART and optionally DTEND. (no DURATION in spec) > >This is an data format for exchanging calendar information, it has >nothing to do with how any implementation stores the data. Is the >reason that both existed because the WG could not decide? Or >was there another reason? > >-- > >Doug Royer | http://INET-Consulting.com >-------------------------------|----------------------------- >Doug@Royer.com | Office: (208)612-4638 >http://Royer.com | Fax: (866)594-8574 > | Cell: (208)520-4044 > > We Do Standards - You Need Standards > > > Tim Hare Interested Bystander, Non-Inc. 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Oh, I see. Bradley Chait Assian in 1878

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owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from royer.com (inet-consulting.com [4.23.9.166]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0GNApaF055729 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@Royer.com) Received: from Royer.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by royer.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id j0GNAjXB013606 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:10:48 -0800 Message-ID: <41EAF475.3060407@Royer.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:10:45 -0700 From: Doug Royer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ietf-calendar@imc.org" , ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org, CalDAV DevList Subject: IANA Time Zone Registration Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040804090802090308080209" X-Royer.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact 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I have submitted a proposal for that registry to the IETF. 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X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Lennox CC: "ietf-calendar@imc.org" , ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org, CalDAV DevList Subject: Re: IANA Time Zone Registration References: <41EAF475.3060407@Royer.com> <16875.63611.998914.411492@cnr.cs.columbia.edu> In-Reply-To: <16875.63611.998914.411492@cnr.cs.columbia.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030108000109080403050606" X-Royer.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact SiteAdmin@Royer.com for more information X-Royer.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030108000109080403050606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you - I just sent the email. Jonathan Lennox wrote: > On Sunday, January 16 2005, "Doug Royer" wrote to "ietf-calendar@imc.org, ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org, CalDAV DevList" saying: > > >>A couple of years ago there was talk on the CALSCH mailing list >>to have an IANA time zone registration process. I have submitted >>a proposal for that registry to the IETF. > > > This proposal should also be shared with the TZ mailing list, > . > > I note that your list of time zone names is out of date with respect > to the current version of tzdata (2005b). > -- Doug Royer | http://INET-Consulting.com -------------------------------|----------------------------- Doug@Royer.com | Office: (208)612-4638 http://Royer.com | Fax: (866)594-8574 | Cell: (208)520-4044 We Do Standards - You Need Standards --------------ms030108000109080403050606 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIINcDCC A2IwggLLoAMCAQICEAvaCxfBP4mOqwl0erTOLjMwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQECBQAwXzELMAkGA1UE BhMCVVMxFzAVBgNVBAoTDlZlcmlTaWduLCBJbmMuMTcwNQYDVQQLEy5DbGFzcyAxIFB1Ymxp 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