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Al recibir este mensaje por un error, disculpenos. From atompub-archive@lists.ietf.org Tue Apr 6 11:35:47 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2193A6B02 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:35:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -74.655 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-74.655 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_65=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PP-eqXOik1zC for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 190-13-164-235.bk14-ipfija.surnet.cl (190-13-164-235.bk14-ipfija.surnet.cl [190.13.164.235]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BD6328C18B for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:31:51 -0700 (PDT) To: Subject: Job Possition [670 USD/week]. From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20100406183151.8BD6328C18B@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:31:51 -0700 (PDT) An import export company seeks remote employees.
Our company specializes in marketing and selling of the various products on the Internet and our goal is to connect sellers and buyers
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Being foreign company makes it harder to manage sales transactions with US customers,
thus we are looking for support of regional customer service representative.
The main duties include receiving and making payments on client's behalf, managing the preparation and distribution
for expected transactions and ensuring accuracy and promptness of payments and reports.
Number of expected transactions per week: from 2-3 (at the beginning of work) to 5-7 (after the first probation month).

Benefits:
1. Base salary(after a month evaluation period), commissions + monthly bonuses
2. All banking, Western Union and cellphone expenses covered
3. Earnings in addition to your current job
4. No need to sell anything or look for customers

Requirements:
1. Mobile and stationary phone
2. Access to e-mail via Internet or mobile phone
3. Minimum age: 25
4. Bank account

If you are interested in this job offer, please send the your free form application to:
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From owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 6 14:24:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B54B3A69E5 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:24:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.723 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.723 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.124, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, J_CHICKENPOX_42=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UxB0tBdSGY-M for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0707E3A6960 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o36LHUOm044938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:17:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o36LHUd9044937; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:17:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o36LHSjJ044916 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:17:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from julian.reschke@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Apr 2010 21:17:27 -0000 Received: from p508FCD79.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.33]) [80.143.205.121] by mail.gmx.net (mp038) with SMTP; 06 Apr 2010 23:17:27 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+UzNRMMmOUBJce2vbep2QMo4f+UBTaT09B7mcbxo 1OL2jD7SXQSj8w Message-ID: <4BBBA4E2.3090408@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 23:17:22 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Atom-syntax Syntax'" CC: Tim Bray , Paul Hoffman / IMC Subject: Change Proposal to HTML WG to fix the algorithm for generating Atom feeds from HTML content References: <0DA742E8-D6BA-4AB1-95D7-23D96495885D@apple.com> <4BBBA3D3.9060001@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4BBBA3D3.9060001@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.48999999999999999 Sender: owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: FYI: this relates to an HTML-WG discussion about the algorithm to create Atom feeds from HTML (). See and for more context on how we got here. Best regards, Julian On 06.04.2010 23:12, Julian Reschke wrote: > Hi, > > below is a change proposal for this issue. > > Note that an obvious alternative to fixing the algorithm would be to > remove the section completely. > > Best regards, > > Julian > > -- snip -- > SUMMARY > > The HTML5 spec contains an algorithm for producing an Atom (RFC4287) > feed document from an HTML page. > > The definition both relaxes a MUST-level requirement from RFC4287, but > also adds a needless restriction. > > Also, it's not clear *at all* whether this is a feature that people > really want, and if they do, whether it needs to be part of HTML5. Given > the fact that it's non-trivial to generate a valid Atom feed from HTML, > but the reverse *is* trivial, we should also consider removing this > feature altogether (I'd be happy to write a 2nd change proposal if > people want to see that as well). > > RATIONALE > > Instructions to derive a secondary format from HTML documents shouldn't > be misleading, and also should make clear which conditions need to be > met to produce valid documents. > > DETAILS > > There are two problems, both with the following step (4.15.1, step 15.9 > as of April 6): > > "Otherwise > > Let id be a user-agent-defined undereferenceable yet globally unique > valid absolute URL. The same absolute URL should be generated for each > run of this algorithm when given the same input. Let has-alternate be > false." > > Problem #1: RFC 4287 does not require the ID to be undereferenceable. > This was a conscious decision of the IETF AtomPub WG. There's absolutely > no point in adding this requirement, except for the spec author's > distaste for URIs that are both dereferenceable *and* act as a globally > unique and stable identifier. > > Note from > : > > "...Though the IRI might use a dereferencable scheme, Atom Processors > MUST NOT assume it can be dereferenced." > > Problem #2: RFC 4287 makes it a MUST-level requirement to generate the > same ID every time the feed is regenerated: > > From > : > > "When an Atom Document is relocated, migrated, syndicated, republished, > exported, or imported, the content of its atom:id element MUST NOT > change. Put another way, an atom:id element pertains to all > instantiations of a particular Atom entry or feed; revisions retain the > same content in their atom:id elements. It is suggested that the atom:id > element be stored along with the associated resource." > > HTML5 relaxes this to a should-level requirement. > > I do agree that generating valid Atom feeds from HTML *is* hard, but > violating a MUST-level requirement from the Atom spec is not acceptable. > > Proposed changes: > > For issue #1: > > Leave out "undereferencable", changing the sentence to: > > "Let id be a user-agent-defined yet globally unique valid absolute URL." > > For issue #2: > > Change > > "The same absolute URL should be generated for each run of this > algorithm when given the same input." > > to > > "The same absolute URL must be generated for each run of this algorithm > when given the same input. If this requirement can not be fulfilled, > then generating a valid Atom feed is not possible and this algorithm > should be aborted." > > > IMPACT > > 1. Positive Effects > > Consistency between the applicable specs. Also, authors are correctly > informed about what it takes to generate proper Atom feeds. > > 2. Negative Effects > > None. > > 3. Conformance Classes Changes > > Atom feed generators are actually required to generate valid Atom > documents (with respect to atom:id). > > 4. Risks > > None. > > REFERENCES > > Inline. From atompub-archive@lists.ietf.org Tue Apr 6 15:19:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23DF28C139 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -91.375 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-91.375 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_65=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qJTAyZmIj1-W for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aeofmurcia.org (unknown [109.188.78.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B87B83A6A38 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:17:32 -0700 (PDT) To: Subject: Job Possition for United States. From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20100406221734.B87B83A6A38@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:17:32 -0700 (PDT) An import export company seeks remote employees.
Our company specializes in marketing and selling of the various products on the Internet and our goal is to connect sellers and buyers
for various products online thus assuring the best possible outcome for the both parties involved.

Being foreign company makes it harder to manage sales transactions with US customers,
thus we are looking for support of regional customer service representative.
The main duties include receiving and making payments on client's behalf, managing the preparation and distribution
for expected transactions and ensuring accuracy and promptness of payments and reports.
Number of expected transactions per week: from 2-3 (at the beginning of work) to 5-7 (after the first probation month).

Benefits:
1. Base salary(after a month evaluation period), commissions + monthly bonuses
2. All banking, Western Union and cellphone expenses covered
3. Earnings in addition to your current job
4. No need to sell anything or look for customers

Requirements:
1. Mobile and stationary phone
2. Access to e-mail via Internet or mobile phone
3. Minimum age: 25
4. Bank account

If you are interested in this job offer, please send the your free form application to:
Lenora@union-eur.net

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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CAD5DA.787375E0-- From owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 6 22:45:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BB63A6A7D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:45:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.33 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.33 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.116, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0KzWtvrkMHt4 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3ED73A6A2F for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o375bnVk079953 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:37:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o375bnOY079952; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:37:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.98]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o375bmbt079946 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:37:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from j4_james@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU0-SMTP75 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s23.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:37:48 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [87.82.23.108] X-Originating-Email: [j4_james@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from Baldur ([87.82.23.108]) by BLU0-SMTP75.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 6 Apr 2010 22:37:47 -0700 From: "James Holderness" To: "Atom-syntax Syntax'" References: <0DA742E8-D6BA-4AB1-95D7-23D96495885D@apple.com> <4BBBA3D3.9060001@gmx.de> <4BBBA4E2.3090408@gmx.de> Subject: Re: Change Proposal to HTML WG to fix the algorithm for generating Atom feeds from HTML content Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 06:37:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2010 05:37:48.0092 (UTC) FILETIME=[74CF67C0:01CAD614] Sender: owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Julian Reschke wrote: > this relates to an HTML-WG discussion about the algorithm to create Atom > feeds from HTML (). I don't get why this was added to the spec in the first place. Under what conditions would a UA want or need to generate a feed from a webpage? Do you have a pointer to a thread or something where this idea was initially proposed? As for the id bug itself, I think that's the least of your problems. From my brief reading, the algorithm looks to me to be riddled with errors, not including the parts that are just plain bad. Frankly I'd toss the whole thing out. Then again, I'd say the same for a good deal of HTML5. Regards James From atompub-archive@lists.ietf.org Wed Apr 7 00:04:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C846C3A6891 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:04:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, Non-encoded 8-bit data (char C2 hex): From: Approved VIAGRA\302\256 Store ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ags.gov.au (unknown [91.214.199.35]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B3F3A68C1 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:04:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Approved VIAGRA® Store Subject: Special Discount 76% for atompub-archive@lists.ietf.org To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100406-2, 06.04.2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-Id: <20100407070407.58B3F3A68C1@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:04:06 -0700 (PDT)

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From owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 7 01:24:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAD13A67A2 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:24:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.347 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.347 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.699, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5fZv0C6aFBdw for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0BB3A679F for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o378GfAv089638 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:16:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o378GfFF089637; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:16:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o378GeJZ089630 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:16:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from julian.reschke@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Apr 2010 08:16:35 -0000 Received: from p508FD11B.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.33]) [80.143.209.27] by mail.gmx.net (mp056) with SMTP; 07 Apr 2010 10:16:35 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18AZZNA3qwA5Wq919VrjgB8WgYbGINGOfzF/gfHsw 9m9zhQwM1UVQf+ Message-ID: <4BBC3F5A.1000207@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:16:26 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Holderness CC: "Atom-syntax Syntax'" Subject: Re: Change Proposal to HTML WG to fix the algorithm for generating Atom feeds from HTML content References: <0DA742E8-D6BA-4AB1-95D7-23D96495885D@apple.com> <4BBBA3D3.9060001@gmx.de> <4BBBA4E2.3090408@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.62 Sender: owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: On 07.04.2010 07:37, James Holderness wrote: > > Julian Reschke wrote: >> this relates to an HTML-WG discussion about the algorithm to create >> Atom feeds from HTML (). > > I don't get why this was added to the spec in the first place. Under > what conditions would a UA want or need to generate a feed from a > webpage? Do you have a pointer to a thread or something where this idea > was initially proposed? I think the reason that was presented is that people prefer to publish just HTML instead of HTML + a feed. Should be somewhere in the WHATWG archives. Personally, I don't buy that. HTML pages that qualify as material for news feeds are usually generated from a different source, such as a database of news entries, or actually a feed document (this is how I do it). Publishing both is simple, and actually saves bandwidth for those just needing the Atom version. > As for the id bug itself, I think that's the least of your problems. > From my brief reading, the algorithm looks to me to be riddled with > errors, not including the parts that are just plain bad. Please point those out; as you can guess, I'm getting tired of this stuff. Optimally in the HTML WG, but if you prefer to do it here, I'll relay your feedback. > Frankly I'd toss the whole thing out. Then again, I'd say the same for a > good deal of HTML5. Same here. Best regards, Julian From owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 7 02:04:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3293A6840 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 02:04:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.63 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.63 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.416, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hLbprwrCmaOg for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 02:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8713A6826 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 02:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o378vEuj092125 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:57:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o378vEMd092124; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:57:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o378vCxf092118 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:57:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from julian.reschke@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Apr 2010 08:57:09 -0000 Received: from p508FD11B.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.33]) [80.143.209.27] by mail.gmx.net (mp035) with SMTP; 07 Apr 2010 10:57:09 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX198ZOs3yN18kE87z3okk5zFXkGjz4mxwMpXx0suCr GBtMNycS0KocZe Message-ID: <4BBC48E0.3070905@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 10:57:04 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Atom-syntax Syntax'" Subject: Re: RFC 5829 on Link Relation Types for Simple Version Navigation between Web Resources References: <20100406221328.9118EE07B8@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: <20100406221328.9118EE07B8@rfc-editor.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.53000000000000003 Sender: owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: (FYI) On 07.04.2010 00:13, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: > > A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. > > > RFC 5829 > > Title: Link Relation Types for Simple > Version Navigation between Web Resources > Author: A. Brown, G. Clemm, > J. Reschke, Ed. > Status: Informational > Stream: IETF > Date: April 2010 > Mailbox: albertcbrown@us.ibm.com, > geoffrey.clemm@us.ibm.com, > julian.reschke@greenbytes.de > Pages: 12 > Characters: 18649 > Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None > > I-D Tag: draft-brown-versioning-link-relations-07.txt > > URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5829.txt > > This specification defines a set of link relation types that may be > used on Web resources for navigation between a resource and other > resources related to version control, such as past versions and > working copies. This document is not an Internet Standards Track > specification; it is published for informational purposes. > > > INFORMATIONAL: This memo provides information for the Internet community. > It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of > this memo is unlimited. > > This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. > To subscribe or unsubscribe, see > http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist > > For searching the RFC series, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.html. > For downloading RFCs, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html. > > Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the > author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. Unless > specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for > unlimited distribution. > > > The RFC Editor Team > Association Management Solutions, LLC > > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > From owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 7 15:19:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593AE3A69A8 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:19:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.33 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.33 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.116, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FgTo273Jq9li for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450C73A6975 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o37MCR8a037082 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:12:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o37MCRNv037081; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:12:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.89]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o37MCPFj037073 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:12:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from j4_james@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU0-SMTP11 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:12:25 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [87.82.23.108] X-Originating-Email: [j4_james@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from Baldur ([87.82.23.108]) by BLU0-SMTP11.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:12:24 -0700 From: "James Holderness" To: "Atom-syntax Syntax'" References: <0DA742E8-D6BA-4AB1-95D7-23D96495885D@apple.com> <4BBBA3D3.9060001@gmx.de> <4BBBA4E2.3090408@gmx.de> <4BBC3F5A.1000207@gmx.de> Subject: Re: Change Proposal to HTML WG to fix the algorithm for generating Atom feeds from HTML content Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:12:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2010 22:12:24.0768 (UTC) FILETIME=[66E18400:01CAD69F] Sender: owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Julian Reschke wrote: > I think the reason that was presented is that people prefer to publish > just HTML instead of HTML + a feed. Should be somewhere in the WHATWG > archives. Ok, I suppose I can imagine how someone might find that useful, but even if there were a demand for such functionality, I don't think the algorithm in question actually addresses that issue. An algorithm for interpreting a web page as some form of feed (which is really what you would need), and an algorithm for converting a web page into an Atom document (which is what is described) are really quite different processes. >> As for the id bug itself, I think that's the least of your problems. >> From my brief reading, the algorithm looks to me to be riddled with >> errors, not including the parts that are just plain bad. > > Please point those out; as you can guess, I'm getting tired of this stuff. > Optimally in the HTML WG, but if you prefer to do it here, I'll relay your > feedback. I'm sorry, but that would require way more effort than I'm willing to expend on something that I believe should never have been part of the HTML spec in the first place. The point I was trying to make was that (IMO) you're wasting your time trying to get this id issue fixed. Because even if you could eventually get Hickson to fix it, after months of arguing, you'd still be stuck with a crap algorithm that no sane person would use. By all means, push for the whole thing to be dropped from the spec if you have the enthusiasm. Otherwise, my advice would just be to give it up as a lost cause. Regards James From owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 7 17:40:59 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-atompub-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8523A67B1 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:40:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.224 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.224 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, J_CHICKENPOX_42=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_43=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vk8YJLC7QbUR for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D613A659C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o380YOs2043145 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:34:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o380YOuA043144; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:34:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail-gw0-f43.google.com (mail-gw0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o380YNPi043131; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:34:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from tbray@textuality.com) Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17so789260gwj.16 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:34:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.17.135 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:34:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [172.19.12.103] In-Reply-To: <4BBBA4E2.3090408@gmx.de> References: <0DA742E8-D6BA-4AB1-95D7-23D96495885D@apple.com> <4BBBA3D3.9060001@gmx.de> <4BBBA4E2.3090408@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 17:34:22 -0700 Received: by 10.150.7.9 with SMTP id 9mr9379563ybg.285.1270686862760; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Change Proposal to HTML WG to fix the algorithm for generating Atom feeds from HTML content From: Tim Bray To: Julian Reschke Cc: "Atom-syntax Syntax'" , "Paul Hoffman / IMC" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-atom-syntax@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: I must say, the notion that you can guarantee that a URI can't be dereferenced is charmingly naive. I also agree with Julian that it's a big hairy problem that the language blesses generating two atom entries with different atom:ids from different revisions of the same HTML resource. -Tim On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Julian Reschke wrot= e: > FYI: > > this relates to an HTML-WG discussion about the algorithm to create Atom > feeds from HTML (). > > See and > for more context on how we = got > here. > > Best regards, Julian > > On 06.04.2010 23:12, Julian Reschke wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> below is a change proposal for this issue. >> >> Note that an obvious alternative to fixing the algorithm would be to >> remove the section completely. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Julian >> >> -- snip -- >> SUMMARY >> >> The HTML5 spec contains an algorithm for producing an Atom (RFC4287) >> feed document from an HTML page. >> >> The definition both relaxes a MUST-level requirement from RFC4287, but >> also adds a needless restriction. >> >> Also, it's not clear *at all* whether this is a feature that people >> really want, and if they do, whether it needs to be part of HTML5. Given >> the fact that it's non-trivial to generate a valid Atom feed from HTML, >> but the reverse *is* trivial, we should also consider removing this >> feature altogether (I'd be happy to write a 2nd change proposal if >> people want to see that as well). >> >> RATIONALE >> >> Instructions to derive a secondary format from HTML documents shouldn't >> be misleading, and also should make clear which conditions need to be >> met to produce valid documents. >> >> DETAILS >> >> There are two problems, both with the following step (4.15.1, step 15.9 >> as of April 6): >> >> "Otherwise >> >> Let id be a user-agent-defined undereferenceable yet globally unique >> valid absolute URL. The same absolute URL should be generated for each >> run of this algorithm when given the same input. Let has-alternate be >> false." >> >> Problem #1: RFC 4287 does not require the ID to be undereferenceable. >> This was a conscious decision of the IETF AtomPub WG. There's absolutely >> no point in adding this requirement, except for the spec author's >> distaste for URIs that are both dereferenceable *and* act as a globally >> unique and stable identifier. >> >> Note from >> : >> >> "...Though the IRI might use a dereferencable scheme, Atom Processors >> MUST NOT assume it can be dereferenced." >> >> Problem #2: RFC 4287 makes it a MUST-level requirement to generate the >> same ID every time the feed is regenerated: >> >> =A0From >> : >> >> "When an Atom Document is relocated, migrated, syndicated, republished, >> exported, or imported, the content of its atom:id element MUST NOT >> change. Put another way, an atom:id element pertains to all >> instantiations of a particular Atom entry or feed; revisions retain the >> same content in their atom:id elements. It is suggested that the atom:id >> element be stored along with the associated resource." >> >> HTML5 relaxes this to a should-level requirement. >> >> I do agree that generating valid Atom feeds from HTML *is* hard, but >> violating a MUST-level requirement from the Atom spec is not acceptable. >> >> Proposed changes: >> >> For issue #1: >> >> Leave out "undereferencable", changing the sentence to: >> >> "Let id be a user-agent-defined yet globally unique valid absolute URL." >> >> For issue #2: >> >> Change >> >> "The same absolute URL should be generated for each run of this >> algorithm when given the same input." >> >> to >> >> "The same absolute URL must be generated for each run of this algorithm >> when given the same input. If this requirement can not be fulfilled, >> then generating a valid Atom feed is not possible and this algorithm >> should be aborted." >> >> >> IMPACT >> >> 1. Positive Effects >> >> Consistency between the applicable specs. Also, authors are correctly >> informed about what it takes to generate proper Atom feeds. >> >> 2. Negative Effects >> >> None. >> >> 3. Conformance Classes Changes >> >> Atom feed generators are actually required to generate valid Atom >> documents (with respect to atom:id). >> >> 4. 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Feedback from members of the Atom community would be appreciated, simply send email to the WG mailing list () or the public comments mailing list (). Best regards, Julian On 09.04.2010 16:04, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 08.04.2010 20:12, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >> >> On Apr 8, 2010, at 5:09 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> >>> Also, it's not clear *at all* whether this is a feature that people >>> really want, and if they do, whether it needs to be part of HTML5. >>> Given the fact that it's non-trivial to generate a valid Atom feed >>> from HTML, but the reverse *is* trivial, we should also consider >>> removing this feature altogether (I'd be happy to write a 2nd change >>> proposal if people want to see that as well). (See [2]) >> >> Since a number of people have expressed interest, I think it would be >> helpful to provide a second proposal along these lines. > > Sure. 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